It's actually added security (even if it's annoying) as previously mentioned not many people use mechanical keys to unlock these days and those lock cylinders can be picked or forced open by a theif with ease..HOWEVER Ford (& a few other automakers) now have a delay if you open with a key instead of remote you'll get a few seconds to get and start the car before the alarm sounds.. Chrysler needs to do some reprogramming and catch up with the others..
I thought it might've been some odd anti-theft device, as I find these very annoying, especially when you've never encountered it, and you don't know what to do. Manual says hit "Panic" to shut it off, which of course, didn't. Eventually, I figured it out. If the battery goes dead on the keychain, you're screwed. :)
@ambersstar1 Actually, I have a Dodge, and it gets FAR better milage than this got. (Then again, it's a HEMI.) So I have to push a button, but what if the batteries decide to quit after locking it up? See where I'm going? It would've been nice to know how the system worked beforehand.
@97purpleboy I did figure it out, however, in these cases, starting the car, and driving it, didn't kill the alarms. I think there should be some information placed on the seat, or dashboard, to let people know about the system. I had to figure it out for myself many loaners ago.
It thinks u put you arm threw the window and lifted up the lock and opened the door, but they shud of added something that disables that when you use the key.
GM does that too....both my remotes for my 06 Chevy HHR died so now the alarm goes off every time I unlock it. Fortunately it still starts and the alarm turns off once started, which actually kind of defeats the purpose...
@funkeyman606 IBreak window, and unlock. Is that what you're trying to say? Could be, because that makes sense. At least I figured this out, without instructions, even!
@howardboi100 That didn't work for me. I started the vehicle, first time I encountered this system, in a Ram, drove a little, alarm still blazing. Ultimately mashed buttons to stop it. At least I figured it out the 3'rd time, on a similar car to this one.
@MrEscape7 I'm thinking the dealership has it setup this way. The people there said it's odd that it's working like this. It's repeatable on all their loaners.
it dose that cus when you loke it you are turning the alarm on to unloke the doors with key you have to unloke the car then go to each door and loke it manaly by pushing the loke down then you can unloke the car its kinda canfusing
Land Rover does the same, lock with the button, unlock using the key in the door and the alarm goes when you open it, only way to stop it is by using the button. So if its locked by the button it needs unlocked by the button too. But if its locked by the key the alarm is not set, only the immobilizer.
If the car has valet mode but it's not on to enter valet find alarm trip button usually located on the floor next to the e-brake or under steering aging
@moscowremix (1) That's where I bought the car. (2) If they screw it up, I get free repairs! (This being, the Power Train they were working on, is still under waranty.)
my sebring we got the dealer to program it to only go off if i hit panic or if someone opens the doors without keys or remotes. Cost me 45 bucks but its something all keyless remotes been doing for along time now.
i know on my car the key has a chip that will alow the car to open with the main key without the alarm going off and if i use a key with the same cut without the chip the alarm will sound and the car will not start
all you have to do is unlock the door manually like you just did the alarm will sound there is no way to change that but all you have to do is put the key in the ignition and start the engine to shut it off
I know it's an anti-theft alarm, but the panic button make things far worse. It would also be nice to know of it, and how to disarm it. You're right about American cars, the plants are too stubborn to change. I remember in the early 80s, when the big 3 said we don't want small cars, we want BIG cars. Look what happened.....
I had an MG that would Immobalize and do the same thing if I used the key in the keyhole. Only once I actually try to turn it on but it was still very annoying because my remote unlocker sucked.
I have a 2010 Ram, and I don't have any of those issues. One push to turn panic on, one push to turn it off. You can lock the doors on the interior, shut the door, and open it with keys without the alarm going off........
@Matty3697 I think the dealer should've told me how to work this thing. The very first time it happened to me, I spent 5 minutes trying to shut it off. It took a third shot to get it (third time I needed a loaner, that is).
@TheMrGuest Wouldn't surprise me if it was a Taurus body, because the older Focus body was the same as a Toyta Corrola. Then Hyndai made a Ford model in the 90's, forget which.
These loaners were the only ones that did this particular thing. I was expecting to silence the alarm by hittinh the "Panic" Button, but I get faster beeps instead.
@chadcaudell I've tried starting a vehicle with this, the first time I came across this, and that didn't stop the alarm, either. Two loaners before this one, I figured it out, then again, it would've been nice to have instructions about this system.
@mattjohnston1992 I meant the batteries in the key fob. What do you do then, since letting it blare, or driving off, doesn't kill the alarm (tried it before)?
The reason for this is because if someone tries to use a false key to unlock the car or the "tennis ball technique" then the alarm will sound and shield the ignition lock. If the fob has run flat then put it into the door lock and then open the car the alarm will sound but as long as you have the key blade to put in the ignition the alarm will stop. You will find that locking the with the fob from inside and trying to get out will sound an alarm and the deadlocks will not let you out.
@ClubCrew I was hoping the Dodge/Chrystler models didn't have these standard, as my car, and others I drove, didn't. The manual only shows how to disable the basic panic function. It would've been nice for the dealer to have some literature on this. I figured it out on my own, via several trial-and-error combos.
Is there something telling you how to alter it? That's the problem with the loaners, is they don't have a manual for that specific setup, so I just mash buttons until it stopped. Figured it out on the 3rd loaner car I got (They keep the car for larger scheduled maintenance appointments).
You can disable most of these factory set protocols with a little know how. My fathers camaro had 8 of these type functions on it that he disabled one by one. For instance one was that if you unlocked the door with the key, you had 7 seconds to put it in the ignition and start the car or the horn would sound.
@moscowremix Nope. That doesn't work, either. I didn't see anything about this system in the manual either. It says push "Panic" to shut it off. Doesn't do that, either, it just beeps faster. The dealer should've told me about this system. It took me 4 trippings to figure it out. :)
@xKAUTiONx310x Since I sold my Dodge, the chances of coming across this again is fairly low, not to say it couldn't happen again. Hopefully, I'll keep this in mind.
My mom's 05' durango has an issue when you unlock it with the key it sets off the alarm until you put it in the run or start position. Very annoying since i would get scared once she'd open the door lol -_-
Those are my big reasons as well. Although someone pointed out (farther down the comments) that if it's locked by key, the alarm shouldn't go off. Useful information, if I need another loaner. My small car co$t$ money to maintain. I'd HATE to see what the co$t is for this car ($10 of gas doesn't even get you 1/8'th tank).
@godzillaruun Once you figure it out, it's not all too bad. It would've been nice if there were instructions on how to disable it (owner's manual has directions for a regular panic alarm).
i think i know the problem, same thing happend with my 09 durango, i turn the key backwards and it unlocks no problem, i turn it back and forword and and pull it out and open the door and the alarm goes off. i think dodge (chrysler) designed this incase someone gets a key cut (reposessors) and trys to get into the car it can alert them someones getting into it. but thats my best suggestion.
My 2 negatives are: (1) I put my hands at 9 and 3 on the wheel. Guess where the pillars are? (2) Hemi = Gas Guzzler. Actually, a third would be much higher maintanance costs, but in my case, non-issue.
that happens with my Land Rover to is the LR4 you would think they would fix that by now, on no wait there is only 15,000 other problems too well for mine that always happens to me every time i but one
@kalei661 I figured most of that out later on (before the video) with these systems. Although manual locking to avoid it, I didn't know until I got responses. People beat you to it, but I thank you for the help!
Well, mine's not a loaner. And you are lucky that the car alarm shuts off when you unlock using the remote. Mine stays on the entire minutes with horn beeping. It happened so much that my battery didn't have enough juice to start my car.
If the battery dies just unlock it with the key and then put it in the ignition and turn it on and it will shit off. I have a Chrysler pacifica 2005 it dies the same thing . I don't have the remote I have to put the key in the door every time and the alarm sounds . I have to get in and put it in the ignition switch it to on and it shuts off . But keep it on for 5 sec.
I've driven the Charger & 300, which are sister cars to this, both are huge disappointments. They definitely standout on the road, but such a letdown to drive.
Daimler wasn't the only one. Our 2013 Tahoe does the same thing. Dealer told us it was a security feature as "no one uses the mechanical unlock anymore", and that if someone did they were likely breaking in. All I have to say is WOW
That's dumb thinking on their part. There's people that still use it, especially if the battery in the fob quits (that's happened to me before, no warning, either).
This is standard on most cars. why would you want to unlock with the key if you have used the power lock button to lock the doors? if you dont want this to happen lock the doors manualy with out using the power lock button.. and if the keyfob batterys die.. which hardley ever happens then you let the alarm go off until you start the car.,, once the car is started it will rest the alarm...
@elgavilan2000 At least you have that luxury. The first time I had this alarm go off (another vehicle, still Dodge), turning it on, and driving, didn't shut it off. Ultimately figured it out, by chance.
@howardboi100 I'm old. :) I like my Neon. I couldn't care less for bigger vehicles. I get those as loaners at times, and am very uncomfortable driving them. I guess that's what happens when you only drive comapcts.
@360ModsandHacks Do you think maybe I was referring to the battery in the KEY FOB?! How would the alarm go off if the car battery was dead? You were COMPLETELY off the mark, and didn't listen. With that said, you really need to be careful about calling someone a "dumbass", when you, to some people reading your comment, and saw this reply, might think it's you (not me. I'm bettter than that, but you know how kids are).
You defiantly handeled it betetr than me i would have gotton angry and cussed at it...but hey thats why i take anger management! XD The best thing i can suggest is (wven tho its a pain in the ass) find a tech nerd and have them rewire the alarm system where it can only come on if you arm it or hit the panic button.
And if the battery is dead, the alarm will probably not go off, or if the car has a backup battery for the alarm, I dont know. But get used to it, all new cars now have this feature
I'm pretty sure the owner can disarm the alarm feature and then it wouldn't do that. Nothing wrong with a built-in alarm though, especially if it scares off a would-be burglar who's trying to get your camera:)
LMFAO had me dieng laughing when hes like "u press the panic button, THEN IT GOES FASTER"
It's actually added security (even if it's annoying) as previously mentioned not many people use mechanical keys to unlock these days and those lock cylinders can be picked or forced open by a theif with ease..HOWEVER Ford (& a few other automakers) now have a delay if you open with a key instead of remote you'll get a few seconds to get and start the car before the alarm sounds.. Chrysler needs to do some reprogramming and catch up with the others..
Even a few seconds for a delay is a great help. I hope they have thought things through over the years.
I like how the more you explain the louder you get out of anger XD
You use your key and turn it 2 times left first than 1 time right and the alarm should not sound at all.
I thought it might've been some odd anti-theft device, as I find these very annoying, especially when you've never encountered it, and you don't know what to do. Manual says hit "Panic" to shut it off, which of course, didn't.
Eventually, I figured it out.
If the battery goes dead on the keychain, you're screwed. :)
@ambersstar1
Actually, I have a Dodge, and it gets FAR better milage than this got. (Then again, it's a HEMI.)
So I have to push a button, but what if the batteries decide to quit after locking it up?
See where I'm going?
It would've been nice to know how the system worked beforehand.
@alexweb8
I don't know. The loaner fleet won't be cycled to newer vehicles for many years, as they just cycled through prior to the takeover.
My friends bmw did this.. Welp that was an good way to wake up my neighbors at 3am
@97purpleboy
I did figure it out, however, in these cases, starting the car, and driving it, didn't kill the alarms.
I think there should be some information placed on the seat, or dashboard, to let people know about the system. I had to figure it out for myself many loaners ago.
The actual fail is not to tell customers about it, as it's not a normal system.
It thinks u put you arm threw the window and lifted up the lock and opened the door, but they shud of added something that disables that when you use the key.
@s61095
Not here. I've started the car before, the alarm still blares away.
GM does that too....both my remotes for my 06 Chevy HHR died so now the alarm goes off every time I unlock it. Fortunately it still starts and the alarm turns off once started, which actually kind of defeats the purpose...
@funkeyman606
IBreak window, and unlock. Is that what you're trying to say? Could be, because that makes sense.
At least I figured this out, without instructions, even!
They do this so if somehow somebody picks the manual lock or breaks it somehow it will still go off
@howardboi100
That didn't work for me. I started the vehicle, first time I encountered this system, in a Ram, drove a little, alarm still blazing. Ultimately mashed buttons to stop it. At least I figured it out the 3'rd time, on a similar car to this one.
@MrEscape7
I'm thinking the dealership has it setup this way. The people there said it's odd that it's working like this.
It's repeatable on all their loaners.
@See5E
Makes me wonder what this one is. The manuals don't mention the system these had.
@RiorXD
I don't think this was standard on their vehicles, either. Their loaners tend to be on the higher end of the spectrum, for each make/model.
@DHMunroe
I believe it's something special that's setup, because the owner's manuals don't state anything about a system of this kind.
it dose that cus when you loke it you are turning the alarm on to unloke the doors with key you have to unloke the car then go to each door and loke it manaly by pushing the loke down then you can unloke the car its kinda canfusing
Land Rover does the same, lock with the button, unlock using the key in the door and the alarm goes when you open it, only way to stop it is by using the button.
So if its locked by the button it needs unlocked by the button too. But if its locked by the key the alarm is not set, only the immobilizer.
If the car has valet mode but it's not on to enter valet find alarm trip button usually located on the floor next to the e-brake or under steering aging
@moscowremix
(1) That's where I bought the car.
(2) If they screw it up, I get free repairs!
(This being, the Power Train they were working on, is still under waranty.)
Hmm. Perhaps I should try that, the next time my car is in for major service (hoping it's scheduled PM).
I think they wired it like this, and purposely don't tell anyone, or leave documentation, for their amusement. :)
my sebring we got the dealer to program it to only go off if i hit panic or if someone opens the doors without keys or remotes. Cost me 45 bucks but its something all keyless remotes been doing for along time now.
i know on my car the key has a chip that will alow the car to open with the main key without the alarm going off and if i use a key with the same cut without the chip the alarm will sound and the car will not start
all you have to do is unlock the door manually like you just did the alarm will sound there is no way to change that but all you have to do is put the key in the ignition and start the engine to shut it off
@moscowremix
What if the battery dies?
Big "friggin" deal. :)
@famous9799
I think you meant to say "SHUT off". lol
I tried this the first time I set the alarm off. Didn't work. It just keps going.
I know it's an anti-theft alarm, but the panic button make things far worse.
It would also be nice to know of it, and how to disarm it.
You're right about American cars, the plants are too stubborn to change. I remember in the early 80s, when the big 3 said we don't want small cars, we want BIG cars. Look what happened.....
the alarm will also shut off if you start the engine while it's going off
I had an MG that would Immobalize and do the same thing if I used the key in the keyhole. Only once I actually try to turn it on but it was still very annoying because my remote unlocker sucked.
I have a 2010 Ram, and I don't have any of those issues. One push to turn panic on, one push to turn it off. You can lock the doors on the interior, shut the door, and open it with keys without the alarm going off........
@Matty3697
I think the dealer should've told me how to work this thing. The very first time it happened to me, I spent 5 minutes trying to shut it off. It took a third shot to get it (third time I needed a loaner, that is).
@TheMrGuest
Wouldn't surprise me if it was a Taurus body, because the older Focus body was the same as a Toyta Corrola. Then Hyndai made a Ford model in the 90's, forget which.
These loaners were the only ones that did this particular thing. I was expecting to silence the alarm by hittinh the "Panic" Button, but I get faster beeps instead.
@robbie5448
Good. I can't afford full trim. :)
Still, if the key fob battery dies, what to do? Can't just simply drive it.
@jman66053
I forget, as I had a Charger and a Calliber. I think it's the later of the two.
@kewlick31
The dealer probably has it set up that way.
My 2004 Neon doesn't do this, either.
@georgef551 i think its the loaded ones because the loaner u had was the highest trim and my liberty is the fully loaded
@chadcaudell
I've tried starting a vehicle with this, the first time I came across this, and that didn't stop the alarm, either. Two loaners before this one, I figured it out, then again, it would've been nice to have instructions about this system.
@mattjohnston1992
I meant the batteries in the key fob.
What do you do then, since letting it blare, or driving off, doesn't kill the alarm (tried it before)?
I think there should've been some literature on the alarm system, because the first time it happened, I just got lucky, shutting it off.
My grandmothers 09 Journey does this. She's about to go & get a new car alarm.
The reason for this is because if someone tries to use a false key to unlock the car or the "tennis ball technique" then the alarm will sound and shield the ignition lock. If the fob has run flat then put it into the door lock and then open the car the alarm will sound but as long as you have the key blade to put in the ignition the alarm will stop. You will find that locking the with the fob from inside and trying to get out will sound an alarm and the deadlocks will not let you out.
@famous9799
I think you meant to say SHUT off. lol
I tried this the first time I set the alarm off. Didn't work. It just keps going.
@ClubCrew
I was hoping the Dodge/Chrystler models didn't have these standard, as my car, and others I drove, didn't. The manual only shows how to disable the basic panic function.
It would've been nice for the dealer to have some literature on this. I figured it out on my own, via several trial-and-error combos.
Didn't work when I tried it.
They did something with the system to stay on.
Is there something telling you how to alter it?
That's the problem with the loaners, is they don't have a manual for that specific setup, so I just mash buttons until it stopped. Figured it out on the 3rd loaner car I got (They keep the car for larger scheduled maintenance appointments).
@robbie5448
Whatever it is, I hope it's not a standard feature.
You can disable most of these factory set protocols with a little know how. My fathers camaro had 8 of these type functions on it that he disabled one by one. For instance one was that if you unlocked the door with the key, you had 7 seconds to put it in the ignition and start the car or the horn would sound.
It's a problem with the locks it thinks you bashed the window and hit the unlock button inside the car
@moscowremix
Nope. That doesn't work, either.
I didn't see anything about this system in the manual either. It says push "Panic" to shut it off. Doesn't do that, either, it just beeps faster.
The dealer should've told me about this system. It took me 4 trippings to figure it out. :)
Wow. That's stupid. However, I laughed so hard when the alarm went off, especially with the tone in your voice while it was going off.
@howardboi100
I'm all set. My Neon does me well, and is super cheap to run.
@xKAUTiONx310x
Since I sold my Dodge, the chances of coming across this again is fairly low, not to say it couldn't happen again. Hopefully, I'll keep this in mind.
Is there not a manual latch to pop the trunk on the floor beside the drivers seat?
My mom's 05' durango has an issue when you unlock it with the key it sets off the alarm until you put it in the run or start position. Very annoying since i would get scared once she'd open the door lol -_-
Those are my big reasons as well.
Although someone pointed out (farther down the comments) that if it's locked by key, the alarm shouldn't go off. Useful information, if I need another loaner.
My small car co$t$ money to maintain. I'd HATE to see what the co$t is for this car ($10 of gas doesn't even get you 1/8'th tank).
Same when I had the Neon. Sush on, push off. No fancy pushbutton code or alarm.
The worst part is that it draws attention to the fact that you're driving a Dodge/Chrysler.
guess they must have re-done the system since... it works in 2001's, but guess not in 2005
Then why would you manually use the key to get in? And also it's designed to go off because someone could just pick the lock.
@godzillaruun
Once you figure it out, it's not all too bad. It would've been nice if there were instructions on how to disable it (owner's manual has directions for a regular panic alarm).
i think i know the problem, same thing happend with my 09 durango, i turn the key backwards and it unlocks no problem, i turn it back and forword and and pull it out and open the door and the alarm goes off. i think dodge (chrysler) designed this incase someone gets a key cut (reposessors) and trys to get into the car it can alert them someones getting into it. but thats my best suggestion.
@JO3YB777
It doesn't shut off at all. I've tried all of this (I'm sure I did), and stumbled about the right combo.
Yeah, but I like the fact I got a LOT more distance on a gallon of gas, as well as the far cheaper cost of ownership the Neon gave.
My 2 negatives are:
(1) I put my hands at 9 and 3 on the wheel. Guess where the pillars are?
(2) Hemi = Gas Guzzler.
Actually, a third would be much higher maintanance costs, but in my case, non-issue.
that happens with my Land Rover to is the LR4
you would think they would fix that by now, on no wait there is only 15,000 other problems too
well for mine that always happens to me every time i but one
Seems more like a project, than unlocking the car.
@kalei661
I figured most of that out later on (before the video) with these systems. Although manual locking to avoid it, I didn't know until I got responses.
People beat you to it, but I thank you for the help!
@hellpked
With no manuals, this was a bear to figure out. This time around, I knew how to use it, hence the demo.
Well, mine's not a loaner. And you are lucky that the car alarm shuts off when you unlock using the remote. Mine stays on the entire minutes with horn beeping. It happened so much that my battery didn't have enough juice to start my car.
@CamboCaC
I wish they programmed these different.
The manual in the glove compartment was of no help.
@kewlick31
My Neon is the same way. Lock and unlock as I please, no alarm. I like it that way better.
@CrashTestUmpire
I never bothered to review the video. Couldn't answer. :D
If the battery dies just unlock it with the key and then put it in the ignition and turn it on and it will shit off. I have a Chrysler pacifica 2005 it dies the same thing . I don't have the remote I have to put the key in the door every time and the alarm sounds . I have to get in and put it in the ignition switch it to on and it shuts off . But keep it on for 5 sec.
I've driven the Charger & 300, which are sister cars to this, both are huge disappointments. They definitely standout on the road, but such a letdown to drive.
Daimler wasn't the only one. Our 2013 Tahoe does the same thing. Dealer told us it was a security feature as "no one uses the mechanical unlock anymore", and that if someone did they were likely breaking in. All I have to say is WOW
FORD is mostly made in Mexico, until recently, as they're moving the jobs back to the States.
@georgef551 the dealer didnt do this my 05 liberty does this too
That's dumb thinking on their part. There's people that still use it, especially if the battery in the fob quits (that's happened to me before, no warning, either).
I have the same exact problem with my Dodge. I hate the alarm!
@marlborroism
That is annoying, but at least the exit strategy was somewhat straightfoward.
@twinsmm1
It does. I think they wanted to "Man-Up" the Station Wagon.
This is standard on most cars. why would you want to unlock with the key if you have used the power lock button to lock the doors? if you dont want this to happen lock the doors manualy with out using the power lock button.. and if the keyfob batterys die.. which hardley ever happens then you let the alarm go off until you start the car.,, once the car is started it will rest the alarm...
You can program it differently. To do different things.
When it's open to show you what happens, yeah, ajar. :D
@SchindlerHaughton
If this was an option, I can live with that. If the cars come this way, I just have to lock the door with the key.
@elgavilan2000
At least you have that luxury. The first time I had this alarm go off (another vehicle, still Dodge), turning it on, and driving, didn't shut it off. Ultimately figured it out, by chance.
@howardboi100
I'm old. :)
I like my Neon. I couldn't care less for bigger vehicles. I get those as loaners at times, and am very uncomfortable driving them.
I guess that's what happens when you only drive comapcts.
@360ModsandHacks
Do you think maybe I was referring to the battery in the KEY FOB?! How would the alarm go off if the car battery was dead? You were COMPLETELY off the mark, and didn't listen.
With that said, you really need to be careful about calling someone a "dumbass", when you, to some people reading your comment, and saw this reply, might think it's you (not me. I'm bettter than that, but you know how kids are).
My car duznt do that, but i want it to! Anyone know how to?
@EuanRams
Hmm...Interesting.
I wouldn't put it past Detroit to think that one through. Then again....
You defiantly handeled it betetr than me i would have gotton angry and cussed at it...but hey thats why i take anger management! XD The best thing i can suggest is (wven tho its a pain in the ass) find a tech nerd and have them rewire the alarm system where it can only come on if you arm it or hit the panic button.
And if the battery is dead, the alarm will probably not go off, or if the car has a backup battery for the alarm, I dont know. But get used to it, all new cars now have this feature
My parents have a 2012 Toyota sianna and a 2012 hydia gennisis
Hyundai and they don't too it
Do it
easy im smart to fix cars
this aslo does this on my 2016 BMW 320i Xdrive
I'm pretty sure the owner can disarm the alarm feature and then it wouldn't do that. Nothing wrong with a built-in alarm though, especially if it scares off a would-be burglar who's trying to get your camera:)