Been doing this weaving exercise and tight circles everyday on my Vespa. Every time I go out, I put your exercises into practice. Today, another 50 miles + of practice! 🙂
This exercise probably saved my life on the freeway quickly avoiding a 4’ step ladder!! Do it until it isn’t a thought but a tissue memory.. I get why you emphasize this so much..💯👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Never heard of tissue memory so i googled it. What is tissue memory? "The tissue memory is a tool the body offers to store certain emotion and/or trauma that we are unable or unwilling to process. These emotions and traumas stay stored, as long as the body doesn't act upon it." I think you meant muscle memory. "Muscle memory is a form of procedural memory that involves consolidating a specific motor task into memory through repetition, which has been used synonymously with motor learning"
I was practicing in a parking lot but with no cones and someone called the police on me. Had two cop cars dispatched to a drunk motorcycle driving erratic. Well after talking to them im just practicing slow maneuvers they let me go without a sobriety test.
I just smoked a deer at 50-55mph on my 2022 KLR650, between God and the advanced cornering and stopping training I had taken, I hit the deer stayed up and rode through the deer. coming to a safe stop about 50yrds up the road on the seat and both wheels on the ground. I have been practicing riding skills like crazy.... and it paid off by saving my life!!
That’s the only thing I’m scared of that is damn near unpreventable, deer out of nowhere. Close second is getting rear ended but at least I can always stop on the side of cars pointing to an exit rather than right behind
“Be the Boss” instructor has a long selfie stick hanging off the back of his bike and the perspective it shows is very helpful for demonstrating.. You urging us to take action is the most essential advice ever..
Been riding for 26 years now and have been binging your videos. Also bought your app. So much great advice up for grabs right here! After a couple of years I did my first course. When learning about counter steering and trying it I was mind blown. Instantly changed my way of riding completely. Keep up the good work!
Damnnn Greg, i cant keep up with your videos. The amount of content your putting out is insane. I have to improve my cardio to keep up with ur videos on YT. Mad respect from Holland.
I have the road to me self on way to work at 12am I use the center zipper as my weave points at all different fun speeds. It was another video of yours that just simply showed the finger push that brought it all together for me. I've shared that video with older veteran riders who all said they never knew even with many years experience. One of them was convinced you just lean your body to turn and push right to go left and visa versa. I explained your body lean, say to the right, is actually pushing the right bar so your going to the right, I said to him, if your leaning to the right your lessening your ability to be pushing that left bar as he thought he was to turn. Push right go right push left go left. After the explanation and that previous video his mind was blown. I'll share this video and then explain and show him if he wants me to, how pulling left to go right has the same effect. Thank you so much man. I pray more people find you and listen and learn. Lives saved!
You've been giving me something to do almost every day, I love it. Had some sick full lock circles going on yesterday and kept myself from sticking out my foot when the lean angle got intense. Thank you for what you do.
I do this all the time on my BMW R 1200 RT in the parking lot whenever I'm waiting for everybody to load up. They usually have cruisers so I think it kind of irritates them but they don't understand they can do the same thing to learn what theirs does. Cruisers have better handling than most people think I believe. Awesome videos!
I agree. I love Counter steering. Yes I was doing it at 80 mph and it feels completely different at 45 or 25. Also today I practiced the Figure 8 in a parking lot and started out 4 spaces and was able to get it down to 3. Working on 2 next. One last thing, your video regarding taking off quickly at Stop light was extremely helpful. Last week I stalled at a stop sign, fortunately in the country, but I was listening to engine. Now I let out the clutch as you said, holding back with my feet, and look to take off around 3k rpm accelerating when the light turns and the way is clear, I jet out of there! Thank You for that tip. Cheers.
Love your Video’s. Been riding ten years but never really practiced more then what I needed to pass the test. After just a couple weeks, 15 mins every time I ride, I have seen a dramatic improvement. You’re saving lives man!!
Rest assured brother you definitely motivated me to practice my emergency braking at least a couple times a week. If anyone should take anything from you it should be to learn how to use your damn breaks and practice !
Just did my CMSP course last weekend, just got my first bike a Honda cb500x yesterday. Just waiting for my Dl 389 to go to the dmv and take the written test. Thanks for all these videos, I will certainly be practicing once I’m insured and everything.
I was practicing in parking lots by the lake with no permit, no registration, no insurance. No excuses, if you really want to be competent, and for the love of it.
Unbelievable!!! I just came hack home from pacrticing this in the closest parking lot from my house. I open TH-cam and what I found!! This precise video !!! Too cool!!! We're in phase!!! Thanks again for all your advice and sincerity!
wow you are amazing for beginners (like me). Even i'm not native English speaker. I can understand you very well. You teach very simple. So today lesson(for me) is do not push down push forward .Because mostly I was pushing down diagonally.Thanks
I don't do this due to fear of police or someone complaining about my riding. (I do practice my drills in a parking lot before a ride.) While I'm riding I wait for the sewer grates and do an aggressive swerve pushing and pulling at the same time around them, it's a great technique for quick turns, especially with my bike, it flicks nice. Awesome video, loving the new gear setup and quality of the video!
Hi, thank you so much for this video, I’ve been biking for 15 years & always had problems cornering, I’ve been out today & took your advice on weaving figure of 8s, circles ect. Oooh I can’t believe it , the difference it makes, thanks Bud
Hey man, I’m sitting here as nearly every morning & follow your courses. Started in 2018 aged 53 and needed Somerones’s advice after m'y basic course. You motivate me every time to practise before and after every Journey. Your vid’s are game changer since my approach is now steared by your way of teaching it. God bless you and men, should you once come to Belgium, you’re welcome @any time #MiaCasaSuaCasa
Besides counter-steering, what about the so called "Self-Steering" technique from Japan's pro riders and gymkhanas? In which the bike turns by shifting your weight towards de rear tire and the inner side of the turn? Can someone relate to this?
I do this daily, empty parking lots or when I get an empty highway on the way to work or on the way back from home with nobody else around me. It is an incredibly fun exercise! It helped get rid of the fear of me turning at low speeds and avoiding potholes, massively dipped manhole covers, blown out tires, tire tread, etc...
Get used to the feeling. Consciously, focused awareness of you on the bike. One of the coolest things about this video is you with one finger making the same weave as the whole hand on the grip. Headed out for a ride. This will be the object of the day.
Amazing! this is what exactly I practiced in an empty parking lot yesterday and I found this video today. The practice was such a confidence booster for me when riding the twisty roads yesterday. One thing, I noticed was that counter-steering using pull on the opposite side handle bar was much more dramatic/quicker than the push (i.e. For right hand turn pull on left handle bar was more quicker than push on right handle bar).Has anyone else experienced the same?
It's crazy that so many people think the bike turns because they "just lean" and these are people that have been riding for 20+ years. I am honestly mind blown that they are still alive lol. No joke tho
Man, I really appreciate what you are doing, and those videos you made has improved dramatically my riding skills, I watch then I go practice because as you were saying, practice practice practice.. I am watching you from the other part of the globe, where there is no schools or training facilities are there, I only relay on your content, so please keep the good work man ❤
Could not be explained better than this! I would say the bike must be driven with hands&brain! Thanks a lot for your amazing tips which are life savers for all of us on two-wheels🥂
Simple Physics. There are 3 roting masses. The big one in the middle provides stability, the front your direction. To get it, pick up an super light bicycle wheel by its axis and rotate the wheel. The put a little force on the axle and see what the wheel does. Love the video. You probably save lives and a lot of damage :)
Thank you for your video, very helpful. Empty parking lot practice has helped me a lot. Swerving, u turns and emergency braking. Counter steering is a must, veterans riders do it subconsciously, new riders like me we have to remember to do it. When I'm going in a curve and going wide I just push the handle bar in that direction to tight up my turn.
I explain counter steering to people like this. "If I push you over to your right side, what hand do you put out to try catch yourself?... the right hand, its the same with a bike. You want the bike to fall right so put your right hand out and the left hand out to fall left"
i have kind of always ridden and done it with instictively. On my scooters in past did not really think about seemed liked mostly leaning. On my new used zero i can definitely tell i am doing it more and think about it. Not straight down but kind of are pushing at a downward 45 degree angle
Thank you so much! You're video has inspired me! I'm now going to take my bike out tomorrow and try, experiment and play with my bike! I'm going to take Action!
that's what they teach you here in Germany when you are getting your license. Personally I had 25 hrs of lessons including street riding, freeway, highway (German Autobahn going close to highest possible speed of that bike, was a cb 650 R). Every lesson included basic exercises like a 4x 7 m weave, emergency brake etc. Can't believe that it is possible to get on a leader bike without any lessons or experience love your videos by the way.
What you've talked about here is exactly what pisses me off about the UK's Mod1 test and training. Slow speed slalom, figure 8 and u turn. The u turn is inside 7.5m wide... all without leaning the bike. I got scolded so much by my instructors for leaning. At least I'm past that part now, just need to pass the on road portion and I can finally be free.
Yep, I do a version of this and empty parking lots are great training for anything low-speed, especially if you’re willing to pretend there are obstacles if none exist. I’m now also looking for opportunities to practice on curves, but most around here are sharper and so, they’re “over” by the time they begin if that makes sense.
Good on you thanks depending on foot peg placement,it's surprising home much foot pressure can help to ,once you realise your feet matter , you notice use n them
I always ask those who can drive a motorcycle on, how to steer and turn the bike to the direction I want to because I can't 😓😓😓 they just casually replied "it just comes naturally" 😢, 😅 like whuuut???? Finally you explained it very well 🥰🥰 I'm gonna try it 😍
Very educational, though a little confusing. All this pull-push left side-right side even tripped you up in articulation. I think the word "steering" sort of covers it. So steer left to go right. You touched a few crucial points I have seen many have difficulty understanding, that being ; desired lean angle reached, loosen up and let the bike do it for you. And of course, increased power equals increased radius or reduced lean angle at lower speeds.
One thing I would add to this is the effect of your bike's static stability. Whenever you're leant over, depending on your bike's geometry, the front wheel will, by itself, apply some amount of restoring force. The geometry typically forces it to steer back into the turn a little (or a lot) more than what's necessary to maintain your current lean angle, and it will keep doing that until the bike is fully upright. If it didn't do that, trying to go in a straight line would be very fatiguing because you'd have to fight the bike every metre. To that end, you need to maintain SOME pressure on the handle bars to keep your desired angle. Best thing to do - keep practicing. You'll get a feel for it pretty quickly. Do it at different speeds too.
"Irrelevant to the truthness?" 😆😆 I like that.... I also like that I can tell how irritating it is to you when people (especially if they already ride) argue about counter steering. It has frustrated me too. I understand why they would think it's different below 20mph. The initial destabilizing action is very subtle while the handle bars can actually turn to full lock in the direction of the turn once they're turning. The gyroscopic forces of the front wheel aren't prominent enough to keep the bars "straight" at low speed and there's not as much inertia so it just "feeeeels" different. It's "irrelevant to the truthness" though as you would say. 😆 Thanks for the video. I'll probably put part of it in my PowerPoint.
What this video done in San Diego? Really nice scenery. Here in Canada motorcycle courses always spen some time on counter steering.Most people do not understand it because physics is involved. As you said expalining and practice helps to get it. Love your videos. 🏍🏍🏍
Greg! You need to change the name of this practice drill to “The Twisty Cornering Gamechanger!” I used this physical and mental drill today as we rode to Julian and Anza Borrego. My cornering and comfort levels were at an all time high thanks to you and this drill!
Ok that's something that my MSF didn't teach. They kept saying how to do the initial part. Push right to go right, but they made it sound like you had to keep pushing the bar. This answered so many questions I had during my MSF course. Thank you.
While applying in corner on the road the move supposed to come from the feet. For example turning right. Left feet pushes the feet bar that stabilize whole left leg around the bike and torso in seat and right hand pushes right bar slightly forward. This way is body and bike more stabilized for longer turns and line will be smoother.
Yeah I'm always afraid of leaning in the first place because nobody ever told me how to properly do it because they were unsure too , Thank you for this lesson 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️
So that's what the slamom is all about.👍👍👍 Good you ought to be paid a lot for this good work. The slalom is a big deal when getting your licence in Uganda
I also taught my friend like that. Do it and just play, dance with the scooter. Its Yamaha Spy 1997 50cc. Great way to learn by playing. After that also throttle and brake control/smoothness. In my opinion its also very important to watch the pro's(GP) to see how they move around
Very very good video. Thumbs up. Notice, that on the parking lot at 10-15 mph (I guess it is?) you can see the handlebar move slightly, but on the road at 35 mpg, the handlebars doesn't move a millimeter when you counter steer.
That's exactly the same effect you experience driving a car! The faster you go the gentler the input must be, that's inertia for you. Riding a two wheeler the effect is "easier to feel" because your speed is used to maintain the vehicle upright, but as at higher speeds your inertial force is also higher then any miniscule angle adjustment made gets "multiplied" by said inertial force and can throw you off pretty easily. That's why this video offers such good advice, get used to the feedback and based on that try to be as smooth as possible with your inputs. Hope this helps!
Brilliantly explained video.. Like I often say you gotta learn to walk before you can run I taught myself to ride like I did to drive as my dad described, 1st gear forward, brake, neutral, back (or reverse for a car).. and again and again and agian. After a while do it a little faster so you and your body are comfortable in understanding what the vehicle is doing with your inputs P.S. Almost thought we were giving birth with all the "pushing" going on 😂
MotoJ: question.. you said you had a goldwing.. what does throttle/engine torque do to bike lean/steer/handlebars with the crankshaft going front to back vs the usual side to side crank I'm familiar with? Lots clicked with the video! We still need some guidance using advanced ABS/IMU systems most effectively, mostly for safety, but understanding the trades for performance. Some say they can beat ABS.. what risks are they taking with tire slide/is there an imperfection you can push in the system?
In your earlier videos you used to emphasise "body head bike" to develop cornering techniques and I found it helpful. Now I'm seeing your videos only discuss pushing or pulling the handlebars and completely de-emphasising body position. What's changed?
Thank you for this excellent instructional video and the philosophical base when you say the truth is not based on what majority say or believe. It should be perceived by you with wisdom.
Funny, I've been doing something similar for a year now. I both higher speed weave and at slower speed swerve every other parking space. This saved me. I was in a roundabout where a car entering failed to yield.
Thanks I will do that but I always wanted to ask you as a beginner, "what can I do with my body to be comfortable with the lean action." Since sometimes the lean does appear to come in fast. Thanks
hey Greg, i am fan of your video's, i love the way you explain it so easly. Last summer i went from Belgium with the bike (gs1250r) to the mountains in Suisse, is it normal that i prefer to ride the mountains up than to ride them down ! Where can i find some tips about it ! greetz Tom
Can you do a video about low speed practice on rough/gravel roads or just roads with lots of loose rocks and stuff? Where I live that's the condition of all tbe roads I will be primarily riding on every day and while I'm definitely gonna go practice on cleaner surfaces, I absolutely will need to practice low speed stuff on these terrible road conditions. Any advice?
That's just the same scenario for me 😅 Nonetheless, even if my bike isn't designed per se for off-road performance I bought one that came with cross like tyres and good ol' spoked rims to get as much traction as possible when riding. I try to practice every weekend outside at the gravel and I try to get used to the feeling of grip loss when breaking and leaning. When I feel a sudden grip loss I try to regain balance and adherence first by adjusting my body position and then try to gently use my throttle to avoid falling off due to loss of speed. If that's not possible then I just stop, put one foot down and if I'm not able to grab the bike I let it fall slowly to the ground (it has sliders, so as long as I can avoid hitting or injuring myself then it's ok). I have had a good dose of gravity love already, but I try to remain as calm as possible and try my best to stay on the bike as long as possible because that could give you more chances to regain control and avoid a harsher crash. I hope that sharing what I currently do can help both of us to receive feedback from more experienced drivers regarding this issue. Best regards!
Nice video but you should explain that you counter steer to LEAN into the curve then you steer towards the direction you're leaning to albeit very imperceptibly and that's when the bike is really turning (curving). No way are you going to turn by ONLY countersteering. Speedway & flatrackers can but that's using a very different principle.
Hey Fast Eddy, any suggestions on getting a pillion rider used to the sensation of the bike suddenly moving underneath them? Anytime I practice this drill my wife smacks me in the chest after she releases her death grip. BTW, I passed my BRC1 with a perfect score thanks to Motojujitsu!
She probably isn't expecting you to do it and scares her. Let her know your going to do it. Start out with nice big easy swerves and slowly get her used to the sensation, build up to doing it quickly. Also try explaining to her why you're doing it, why the bike needs to lean, and what the benefit of the practice is.
Countersteering is definitly something hard to figure out when you go from an ebike to a motorcycle, since on an ebike counter steering isnt a big part of riding. when the bike weighs 80 pounds you can throw it onto its side without countersteering in most situations. just by shifting your body weight. Definitly made switching to a 300 pound motorcycle interested when it wouldnt turn the way I was used to.
I remember watching an experiment on a bicycle where they prevented a bicycle handlebar from being able to counter steer, no one could ride it using just balance.
Great content and instruction as always. Does pushing down on the foot pegs help with counter steer while in a corner? I ride with a couple friends who swear it does, although Keith Codes video suggests differently. Thanks brotha!
Hey Danny, what I’ve noticed that’s helped me initiate a deep counter steer lean angle is locking in your outside leg and foot to the side of the motorcycle. Using that to support your body weight, it takes away any excess weight your upper body puts on the bars. Your upper body should only be used for controls, when doing it correctly you can counter steer using very little force. Keith Code covered it in twist of the wrist 2. Supporting your body weight with your lower body while cornering will provide you with a lot more stability and confidence. But like everything else, requires plenty of practice. See you on salmon falls rd. 😉
It doesn't really, technically. The thing is when applying pressure people tend to shift their weight too to that side, and that shifts the center of gravity sideways, which does indeed affect the turning, it's like leaning in. So it can help indirectly, but it's a misguided way to spend energy to get an indirect effect. That could be achieved more efficiently and safely.
Get out there and play around with weaving/swerving/counter steering - it'll help your overall cornering confidence big time!!!
Just did it after watching Shi-fu. Thanks for the inspiration & all the valuable information spread for free.
Been doing this weaving exercise and tight circles everyday on my Vespa. Every time I go out, I put your exercises into practice. Today, another 50 miles + of practice! 🙂
Nice! Vespa GTS rider here.
That's awesome. Already put 350km on my bike in 3 days cause I feel the need to improve 😂
Amen
This…THIS is the comment I’ve been looking for. I feel like us Vespa riders are mostly lurkers on motorcycle channels. 😂
This exercise probably saved my life on the freeway quickly avoiding a 4’ step ladder!!
Do it until it isn’t a thought but a tissue memory.. I get why you emphasize this so much..💯👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Never heard of tissue memory so i googled it.
What is tissue memory?
"The tissue memory is a tool the body offers to store certain emotion and/or trauma that we are unable or unwilling to process. These emotions and traumas stay stored, as long as the body doesn't act upon it."
I think you meant muscle memory.
"Muscle memory is a form of procedural memory that involves consolidating a specific motor task into memory through repetition, which has been used synonymously with motor learning"
I had to 😃 when I seen tissue memory that was good. Muscle memory.
I have tissues for your issues.
I was practicing in a parking lot but with no cones and someone called the police on me. Had two cop cars dispatched to a drunk motorcycle driving erratic. Well after talking to them im just practicing slow maneuvers they let me go without a sobriety test.
Land of the free. Too many Karen's.
Just picking the best parking spot...
I just smoked a deer at 50-55mph on my 2022 KLR650, between God and the advanced cornering and stopping training I had taken, I hit the deer stayed up and rode through the deer. coming to a safe stop about 50yrds up the road on the seat and both wheels on the ground. I have been practicing riding skills like crazy.... and it paid off by saving my life!!
That’s the only thing I’m scared of that is damn near unpreventable, deer out of nowhere. Close second is getting rear ended but at least I can always stop on the side of cars pointing to an exit rather than right behind
“Be the Boss” instructor has a long selfie stick hanging off the back of his bike and the perspective it shows is very helpful for demonstrating..
You urging us to take action is the most essential advice ever..
Been riding for 26 years now and have been binging your videos. Also bought your app. So much great advice up for grabs right here!
After a couple of years I did my first course. When learning about counter steering and trying it I was mind blown. Instantly changed my way of riding completely.
Keep up the good work!
So far imo I think this is the best video that explains the right way to do this. The video should be watched in every MSF Safety course. Well done!
Damnnn Greg, i cant keep up with your videos. The amount of content your putting out is insane. I have to improve my cardio to keep up with ur videos on YT. Mad respect from Holland.
I have the road to me self on way to work at 12am I use the center zipper as my weave points at all different fun speeds.
It was another video of yours that just simply showed the finger push that brought it all together for me. I've shared that video with older veteran riders who all said they never knew even with many years experience. One of them was convinced you just lean your body to turn and push right to go left and visa versa. I explained your body lean, say to the right, is actually pushing the right bar so your going to the right, I said to him, if your leaning to the right your lessening your ability to be pushing that left bar as he thought he was to turn. Push right go right push left go left. After the explanation and that previous video his mind was blown. I'll share this video and then explain and show him if he wants me to, how pulling left to go right has the same effect.
Thank you so much man. I pray more people find you and listen and learn. Lives saved!
You've been giving me something to do almost every day, I love it. Had some sick full lock circles going on yesterday and kept myself from sticking out my foot when the lean angle got intense. Thank you for what you do.
I do this all the time on my BMW R 1200 RT in the parking lot whenever I'm waiting for everybody to load up. They usually have cruisers so I think it kind of irritates them but they don't understand they can do the same thing to learn what theirs does. Cruisers have better handling than most people think I believe. Awesome videos!
Your videos have helped me as a new rider so much. It's amazing how practicing with repetition builds confidence and skill.
I agree. I love Counter steering. Yes I was doing it at 80 mph and it feels completely different at 45 or 25. Also today I practiced the Figure 8 in a parking lot and started out 4 spaces and was able to get it down to 3. Working on 2 next. One last thing, your video regarding taking off quickly at Stop light was extremely helpful. Last week I stalled at a stop sign, fortunately in the country, but I was listening to engine. Now I let out the clutch as you said, holding back with my feet, and look to take off around 3k rpm accelerating when the light turns and the way is clear, I jet out of there! Thank You for that tip. Cheers.
Love your Video’s. Been riding ten years but never really practiced more then what I needed to pass the test. After just a couple weeks, 15 mins every time I ride, I have seen a dramatic improvement. You’re saving lives man!!
Rest assured brother you definitely motivated me to practice my emergency braking at least a couple times a week. If anyone should take anything from you it should be to learn how to use your damn breaks and practice !
Just did my CMSP course last weekend, just got my first bike a Honda cb500x yesterday. Just waiting for my Dl 389 to go to the dmv and take the written test. Thanks for all these videos, I will certainly be practicing once I’m insured and everything.
I was practicing in parking lots by the lake with no permit, no registration, no insurance. No excuses, if you really want to be competent, and for the love of it.
@@shawnmclean7932 what a tough guy.
This is probably the best explanation of counter steering that I have heard. Thank you!
Counter steering is blowing my mind. I guess I just need to practice with your voice in my head “push right, turn right”…..mind blown! Whaaaat?
Thank you so much you the “left handed” part. You’ve been such a huge help
Unbelievable!!!
I just came hack home from pacrticing this in the closest parking lot from my house.
I open TH-cam and what I found!!
This precise video !!!
Too cool!!!
We're in phase!!!
Thanks again for all your advice and sincerity!
wow you are amazing for beginners (like me). Even i'm not native English speaker. I can understand you very well. You teach very simple. So today lesson(for me) is do not push down push forward .Because mostly I was pushing down diagonally.Thanks
I don't do this due to fear of police or someone complaining about my riding. (I do practice my drills in a parking lot before a ride.) While I'm riding I wait for the sewer grates and do an aggressive swerve pushing and pulling at the same time around them, it's a great technique for quick turns, especially with my bike, it flicks nice. Awesome video, loving the new gear setup and quality of the video!
How many cops are around where you ride? There's a lot of road out there.
Hi, thank you so much for this video, I’ve been biking for 15 years & always had problems cornering, I’ve been out today & took your advice on weaving figure of 8s, circles ect. Oooh I can’t believe it , the difference it makes, thanks Bud
Hey man, I’m sitting here as nearly every morning & follow your courses. Started in 2018 aged 53 and needed Somerones’s advice after m'y basic course. You motivate me every time to practise before and after every Journey. Your vid’s are game changer since my approach is now steared by your way of teaching it. God bless you and men, should you once come to Belgium, you’re welcome @any time #MiaCasaSuaCasa
Besides counter-steering, what about the so called "Self-Steering" technique from Japan's pro riders and gymkhanas? In which the bike turns by shifting your weight towards de rear tire and the inner side of the turn?
Can someone relate to this?
I do this daily, empty parking lots or when I get an empty highway on the way to work or on the way back from home with nobody else around me. It is an incredibly fun exercise! It helped get rid of the fear of me turning at low speeds and avoiding potholes, massively dipped manhole covers, blown out tires, tire tread, etc...
Get used to the feeling. Consciously, focused awareness of you on the bike. One of the coolest things about this video is you with one finger making the same weave as the whole hand on the grip. Headed out for a ride. This will be the object of the day.
Amazing! this is what exactly I practiced in an empty parking lot yesterday and I found this video today. The practice was such a confidence booster for me when riding the twisty roads yesterday. One thing, I noticed was that counter-steering using pull on the opposite side handle bar was much more dramatic/quicker than the push (i.e. For right hand turn pull on left handle bar was more quicker than push on right handle bar).Has anyone else experienced the same?
It's crazy that so many people think the bike turns because they "just lean" and these are people that have been riding for 20+ years. I am honestly mind blown that they are still alive lol. No joke tho
As always thanks for the straight forward instruction, I have learnt loads. I'm off now to practice :)
One of the best early tips I learned from ur videos! It really helps to know this as you ride. Even if u did it before sort of intuitively -
Truthness…love it…going to practice now…
Man, I really appreciate what you are doing, and those videos you made has improved dramatically my riding skills, I watch then I go practice because as you were saying, practice practice practice..
I am watching you from the other part of the globe, where there is no schools or training facilities are there, I only relay on your content, so please keep the good work man ❤
Could not be explained better than this! I would say the bike must be driven with hands&brain! Thanks a lot for your amazing tips which are life savers for all of us on two-wheels🥂
Simple Physics. There are 3 roting masses. The big one in the middle provides stability, the front your direction. To get it, pick up an super light bicycle wheel by its axis and rotate the wheel. The put a little force on the axle and see what the wheel does. Love the video. You probably save lives and a lot of damage :)
Thank you for your video, very helpful. Empty parking lot practice has helped me a lot. Swerving, u turns and emergency braking. Counter steering is a must, veterans riders do it subconsciously, new riders like me we have to remember to do it. When I'm going in a curve and going wide I just push the handle bar in that direction to tight up my turn.
I explain counter steering to people like this. "If I push you over to your right side, what hand do you put out to try catch yourself?... the right hand, its the same with a bike. You want the bike to fall right so put your right hand out and the left hand out to fall left"
Good also to scrub the tires, improve grip in the chicken area so when you do need that rubber it's not slippery like a new tire..
i have kind of always ridden and done it with instictively. On my scooters in past did not really think about seemed liked mostly leaning. On my new used zero i can definitely tell i am doing it more and think about it. Not straight down but kind of are pushing at a downward 45 degree angle
Maybe I'm just slow.
So let's say I push slightly on the left bar. Does the bike lean more and more, or does it lean a bit and stop until I push more?
Thank you so much! You're video has inspired me! I'm now going to take my bike out tomorrow and try, experiment and play with my bike! I'm going to take Action!
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I really appreciate the way you say what you're saying. This is very easy to understand and process. Thank you.
that's what they teach you here in Germany when you are getting your license. Personally I had 25 hrs of lessons including street riding, freeway, highway (German Autobahn going close to highest possible speed of that bike, was a cb 650 R). Every lesson included basic exercises like a 4x 7 m weave, emergency brake etc. Can't believe that it is possible to get on a leader bike without any lessons or experience
love your videos by the way.
What you've talked about here is exactly what pisses me off about the UK's Mod1 test and training. Slow speed slalom, figure 8 and u turn. The u turn is inside 7.5m wide... all without leaning the bike. I got scolded so much by my instructors for leaning. At least I'm past that part now, just need to pass the on road portion and I can finally be free.
I really appreciate the video and counter steraing explanation....great.
Yep, I do a version of this and empty parking lots are great training for anything low-speed, especially if you’re willing to pretend there are obstacles if none exist.
I’m now also looking for opportunities to practice on curves, but most around here are sharper and so, they’re “over” by the time they begin if that makes sense.
Watching from Philippines. Thankyou so much i am learning from it.
Thank you so much!!One of the most important exercises is counter-steering for the bikers 🙏
welcome
Great teaching, Keep it up and be safe out there!
Good on you thanks depending on foot peg placement,it's surprising home much foot pressure can help to ,once you realise your feet matter , you notice use n them
This stuff is life saving. You must condition it in. I have a light bike (R3) and its a lot of fun practicing.
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I always ask those who can drive a motorcycle on, how to steer and turn the bike to the direction I want to because I can't 😓😓😓
they just casually replied "it just comes naturally" 😢, 😅 like whuuut????
Finally you explained it very well 🥰🥰 I'm gonna try it 😍
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Great exercise. Will definitely do that. When it's not 10° with 30 mph "breeze " Welcome to Westetn NY!
Very educational, though a little confusing. All this pull-push left side-right side even tripped you up in articulation. I think the word "steering" sort of covers it. So steer left to go right. You touched a few crucial points I have seen many have difficulty understanding, that being ; desired lean angle reached, loosen up and let the bike do it for you. And of course, increased power equals increased radius or reduced lean angle at lower speeds.
One thing I would add to this is the effect of your bike's static stability. Whenever you're leant over, depending on your bike's geometry, the front wheel will, by itself, apply some amount of restoring force. The geometry typically forces it to steer back into the turn a little (or a lot) more than what's necessary to maintain your current lean angle, and it will keep doing that until the bike is fully upright. If it didn't do that, trying to go in a straight line would be very fatiguing because you'd have to fight the bike every metre.
To that end, you need to maintain SOME pressure on the handle bars to keep your desired angle.
Best thing to do - keep practicing. You'll get a feel for it pretty quickly. Do it at different speeds too.
"Irrelevant to the truthness?" 😆😆 I like that.... I also like that I can tell how irritating it is to you when people (especially if they already ride) argue about counter steering. It has frustrated me too. I understand why they would think it's different below 20mph. The initial destabilizing action is very subtle while the handle bars can actually turn to full lock in the direction of the turn once they're turning. The gyroscopic forces of the front wheel aren't prominent enough to keep the bars "straight" at low speed and there's not as much inertia so it just "feeeeels" different. It's "irrelevant to the truthness" though as you would say. 😆 Thanks for the video. I'll probably put part of it in my PowerPoint.
What this video done in San Diego? Really nice scenery. Here in Canada motorcycle courses always spen some time on counter steering.Most people do not understand it because physics is involved. As you said expalining and practice helps to get it. Love your videos. 🏍🏍🏍
i can appreciate the platonic and Aristotelian principles you connect to riding. love the videos
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Greg! You need to change the name of this practice drill to “The Twisty Cornering Gamechanger!”
I used this physical and mental drill today as we rode to Julian and Anza Borrego. My cornering and comfort levels were at an all time high thanks to you and this drill!
another upside is that you're warming up your tires :) thanks for the tip. I'll definitely test it out.
Thanks a lot for this EXTREMELY HELPFUL advice
Ok that's something that my MSF didn't teach. They kept saying how to do the initial part. Push right to go right, but they made it sound like you had to keep pushing the bar. This answered so many questions I had during my MSF course. Thank you.
Maybe they count on your survival instict after the push... 😅
While applying in corner on the road the move supposed to come from the feet. For example turning right. Left feet pushes the feet bar that stabilize whole left leg around the bike and torso in seat and right hand pushes right bar slightly forward. This way is body and bike more stabilized for longer turns and line will be smoother.
Yeah I'm always afraid of leaning in the first place because nobody ever told me how to properly do it because they were unsure too , Thank you for this lesson 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️
So that's what the slamom is all about.👍👍👍 Good you ought to be paid a lot for this good work. The slalom is a big deal when getting your licence in Uganda
I also taught my friend like that. Do it and just play, dance with the scooter. Its Yamaha Spy 1997 50cc. Great way to learn by playing. After that also throttle and brake control/smoothness. In my opinion its also very important to watch the pro's(GP) to see how they move around
Very very good video. Thumbs up.
Notice, that on the parking lot at 10-15 mph (I guess it is?) you can see the handlebar move slightly, but on the road at 35 mpg, the handlebars doesn't move a millimeter when you counter steer.
That's exactly the same effect you experience driving a car! The faster you go the gentler the input must be, that's inertia for you. Riding a two wheeler the effect is "easier to feel" because your speed is used to maintain the vehicle upright, but as at higher speeds your inertial force is also higher then any miniscule angle adjustment made gets "multiplied" by said inertial force and can throw you off pretty easily. That's why this video offers such good advice, get used to the feedback and based on that try to be as smooth as possible with your inputs. Hope this helps!
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Thank you Moto jitsu I have become a better rider by utilizing your tips and strategies u share with us
Your videos are the best!!! Thank you so much!
Great vid +++
Very handy to help with steering on a sport type rather than open frame bike because they're designed to lean-steer
It's actually fun to counter steer in the turn as it's even more noticeable to see how you can tighten up the circle by counter steering
Brilliantly explained video.. Like I often say you gotta learn to walk before you can run
I taught myself to ride like I did to drive as my dad described, 1st gear forward, brake, neutral, back (or reverse for a car).. and again and again and agian.
After a while do it a little faster so you and your body are comfortable in understanding what the vehicle is doing with your inputs
P.S. Almost thought we were giving birth with all the "pushing" going on 😂
Thanks. Counter-steering is a beauty of Motorcycle.
Can I do this in a 125cc two strokes cagiva mito SP 525 bike,sir? enjoyed all your videos . thks
It works on any two wheeled vehicle
Yes, it works also with a bicycle when you cycle fast and you want to turn fast.
MotoJ: question.. you said you had a goldwing.. what does throttle/engine torque do to bike lean/steer/handlebars with the crankshaft going front to back vs the usual side to side crank I'm familiar with? Lots clicked with the video! We still need some guidance using advanced ABS/IMU systems most effectively, mostly for safety, but understanding the trades for performance. Some say they can beat ABS.. what risks are they taking with tire slide/is there an imperfection you can push in the system?
Perfect video. Thanks
In your earlier videos you used to emphasise "body head bike" to develop cornering techniques and I found it helpful. Now I'm seeing your videos only discuss pushing or pulling the handlebars and completely de-emphasising body position. What's changed?
Hahaha I do this all the time when I’m riding. It’s fun. Plus, I wonder if it helps drivers see me better, adding some movement.
I definitely do it at intersections!
congrats!
the most important video for bikers, I'm sure...
Thank you for this excellent instructional video and the philosophical base when you say the truth is not based on what majority say or believe. It should be perceived by you with wisdom.
Funny, I've been doing something similar for a year now. I both higher speed weave and at slower speed swerve every other parking space. This saved me. I was in a roundabout where a car entering failed to yield.
Very siple explanation!
Thanks 🙏
Thanks I will do that but I always wanted to ask you as a beginner, "what can I do with my body to be comfortable with the lean action." Since sometimes the lean does appear to come in fast. Thanks
The bike leans as fast or slow as you want it to, all depends on how quickly you counter steer.
hey Greg, i am fan of your video's, i love the way you explain it so easly. Last summer i went from Belgium with the bike (gs1250r) to the mountains in Suisse, is it normal that i prefer to ride the mountains up than to ride them down ! Where can i find some tips about it ! greetz Tom
Bro am new rider and your video really help me understand what am doing so thanks man
Can you do a video about low speed practice on rough/gravel roads or just roads with lots of loose rocks and stuff? Where I live that's the condition of all tbe roads I will be primarily riding on every day and while I'm definitely gonna go practice on cleaner surfaces, I absolutely will need to practice low speed stuff on these terrible road conditions. Any advice?
That's just the same scenario for me 😅 Nonetheless, even if my bike isn't designed per se for off-road performance I bought one that came with cross like tyres and good ol' spoked rims to get as much traction as possible when riding. I try to practice every weekend outside at the gravel and I try to get used to the feeling of grip loss when breaking and leaning. When I feel a sudden grip loss I try to regain balance and adherence first by adjusting my body position and then try to gently use my throttle to avoid falling off due to loss of speed. If that's not possible then I just stop, put one foot down and if I'm not able to grab the bike I let it fall slowly to the ground (it has sliders, so as long as I can avoid hitting or injuring myself then it's ok). I have had a good dose of gravity love already, but I try to remain as calm as possible and try my best to stay on the bike as long as possible because that could give you more chances to regain control and avoid a harsher crash. I hope that sharing what I currently do can help both of us to receive feedback from more experienced drivers regarding this issue. Best regards!
Nice video but you should explain that you counter steer to LEAN into the curve then you steer towards the direction you're leaning to albeit very imperceptibly and that's when the bike is really turning (curving). No way are you going to turn by ONLY countersteering. Speedway & flatrackers can but that's using a very different principle.
Hey! I see that we use counter steering to make your bike lean. Is there a similar method to make the bike stand up?
Hey Fast Eddy, any suggestions on getting a pillion rider used to the sensation of the bike suddenly moving underneath them? Anytime I practice this drill my wife smacks me in the chest after she releases her death grip.
BTW, I passed my BRC1 with a perfect score thanks to Motojujitsu!
She probably isn't expecting you to do it and scares her. Let her know your going to do it. Start out with nice big easy swerves and slowly get her used to the sensation, build up to doing it quickly. Also try explaining to her why you're doing it, why the bike needs to lean, and what the benefit of the practice is.
Awesome! Thanx 👍
This was perfect. Thank you so much
Thank you for your reply. This video helped me a great deal.
Amazing, thank you
Great video, thanks!
Countersteering is definitly something hard to figure out when you go from an ebike to a motorcycle, since on an ebike counter steering isnt a big part of riding. when the bike weighs 80 pounds you can throw it onto its side without countersteering in most situations. just by shifting your body weight. Definitly made switching to a 300 pound motorcycle interested when it wouldnt turn the way I was used to.
I figured it out a few weeks in and ive been improving since.
I remember watching an experiment on a bicycle where they prevented a bicycle handlebar from being able to counter steer, no one could ride it using just balance.
Great content and instruction as always.
Does pushing down on the foot pegs help with counter steer while in a corner? I ride with a couple friends who swear it does, although Keith Codes video suggests differently. Thanks brotha!
Hey Danny, what I’ve noticed that’s helped me initiate a deep counter steer lean angle is locking in your outside leg and foot to the side of the motorcycle. Using that to support your body weight, it takes away any excess weight your upper body puts on the bars. Your upper body should only be used for controls, when doing it correctly you can counter steer using very little force. Keith Code covered it in twist of the wrist 2. Supporting your body weight with your lower body while cornering will provide you with a lot more stability and confidence. But like everything else, requires plenty of practice.
See you on salmon falls rd. 😉
It doesn't really, technically. The thing is when applying pressure people tend to shift their weight too to that side, and that shifts the center of gravity sideways, which does indeed affect the turning, it's like leaning in. So it can help indirectly, but it's a misguided way to spend energy to get an indirect effect. That could be achieved more efficiently and safely.
I do this all the time when I first get on the bike a take a couple loops around the neighborhood doing this before I actually set out for my ride