I was not aware of the "Tetris Effect" per se. Constant negativity in some individuals leads to pessimism or depression in extreme cases. What's worse is that it is a contagious disease ! Thanks for reminding us to open up our brain power to detect positive elements of a music practice (or other life situations). Great reminder ! We all want to become better musicians in record time, but the reality is that it comes, one positive step at a time . Thanks Mark.
Not so much a lightbulb moment as a power station one! Of course if you only focus on mistakes you won't feel good about your practise. I feel I've been waiting for someone like you to explain these things to me for years now. A HUGE thank you for these wonderful videos.
Thanks for this, Mark. Unfortunately, I have a hard time listening to recordings of myself and criticise my errors when practicing. Consequently, I feel less competent and less motivated to practice or even to play with my fellow musicians. I was sent some tracks to do overdubs on from some old friends who are superb rock musicians. When listening to my parts, I was mortified to hear how inaccurate my entrances and ends of notes were. I am definitely going to use the Tetris Effect suggestions you made to get me out of my habit of only hearing the mistakes.
Glad to hear that you're going to give this a try, Glen. At the same time, don't be too hard on yourself for noticing errors. It's an important thing to do in order to get better. So try and see it as something that is really useful for you in the right context (but be aware that there are also contexts where it's better to put it aside).
At a band rehearsal, pre Covid, one of the guys secretly left a recorder on. Through the post came a CD. I listened to it and not happy with a couple of parts of my solos 👿. Nobody else noticed including my wife! Another time I played at a jam session. Again not happy with my solo 👿. Loud applause from the crowd. Moral: Don't beat yourself up - nobody notices 🌝.
I have noticed this with chess and Soduko too, tho' not as pronounced as this gentleman describes with Tetris. Like, seeing people standing in a room as chess pieces! It's crazy.
Funny thing, the Tetris effect (I didn't know it was called that) applies to students of Morse Code as well, especially new students. We put a lot of time and effort into learning the code and it is much like learning music, with its being rhythmically based, among other similarities. Especially when one is new or working on a new level of proficiency, one hears Morse EVERYWHERE. Lol I mean the refigerator sends code, the guy riding by on a squeeky bicycle sends code...... It seems to come out of pretty much everything that makes any kind of sound, and it's a real struggle to not stop and try to copy (understand) it. This is true even when you know these objects cannot possibly be sending real Morse Code, but you've trained your brain to attempt to decipher it. This goes along perfectly with what you said about seeing more of what you been concentrating on, and it even applies when the thing isn't really there! Thanks again for all your hard work for us in making these great videos :) Tim O
If one can see their own flaws as part of their character and make peace w it - it bcomes part of their own unique style. Think of Thelonious Monk. That said - the Tetris effect is new to me as well. It probably integrates w Andrew Huberman's concept of dopamine. Make hard work desirable - not the end result. In other words - don't make work miserable - it is the path to the reward that fires dopamine - not the reward. Just an insight. Thanks.
Practice is to educate your brain/ body to understand your EARS. Examiners like the Technique but interpretation?. Play in a pub while studying. Exam/audition = just another gig. Don't be afraid of your own opinion...play.."FLY MY BEAUTYS...& may the black gowned ones not get you...remember that Parallel 5ths work on electric Guitar.."
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I was not aware of the "Tetris Effect" per se. Constant negativity in some individuals leads to pessimism or depression in extreme cases. What's worse is that it is a contagious disease ! Thanks for reminding us to open up our brain power to detect positive elements of a music practice (or other life situations). Great reminder ! We all want to become better musicians in record time, but the reality is that it comes, one positive step at a time . Thanks Mark.
Glad it was helpful, Jerry.
Mark this is one of the very best concepts you have shared. I wrote this down for to consider before and after my practice sessions. Thank you.
So glad it was helpful, Hal!
Not so much a lightbulb moment as a power station one! Of course if you only focus on mistakes you won't feel good about your practise. I feel I've been waiting for someone like you to explain these things to me for years now. A HUGE thank you for these wonderful videos.
This is great and timely. I’ve been so in my own head about my ability to play that it hurts my ability to play!
So glad it was helpful, Thomas.
Thank you. I knew about the Tetris effect but never really thought about it in terms of being a musician. I will apply it!
Glad it was helpful, Craig!
Mark, this is spot on and we need to hear about this! The musician world is so so critical and negative. Thank you!
This is excellent material. Thank you.
This is a great video. Thank you.
Thanks. Very valuable points. I will try to use this in my teaching as well.
Please do!
Yes, I have the tendency to look out for mistakes. My optimism is there in the background but I would like to tap it to it and bring it to the fore.
Thankyou
Thank You!
At 2:50, Citroen cars should only be Yellow ! LOL
Thank you Mark. Very helpful and valuable insights
You're welcome, Andi.
Thanks for this, Mark. Unfortunately, I have a hard time listening to recordings of myself and criticise my errors when practicing. Consequently, I feel less competent and less motivated to practice or even to play with my fellow musicians. I was sent some tracks to do overdubs on from some old friends who are superb rock musicians. When listening to my parts, I was mortified to hear how inaccurate my entrances and ends of notes were. I am definitely going to use the Tetris Effect suggestions you made to get me out of my habit of only hearing the mistakes.
Glad to hear that you're going to give this a try, Glen. At the same time, don't be too hard on yourself for noticing errors. It's an important thing to do in order to get better. So try and see it as something that is really useful for you in the right context (but be aware that there are also contexts where it's better to put it aside).
At a band rehearsal, pre Covid, one of the guys secretly left a recorder on. Through the post came a CD. I listened to it and not happy with a couple of parts of my solos 👿. Nobody else noticed including my wife!
Another time I played at a jam session. Again not happy with my solo 👿. Loud applause from the crowd.
Moral: Don't beat yourself up - nobody notices 🌝.
You must look out for mistakes, no other way.
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Wow that’s really great
Great ★★★★★
Good one, Mark. Thx.
Glad you enjoyed it, Joel.
I have noticed this with chess and Soduko too, tho' not as pronounced as this gentleman describes with Tetris. Like, seeing people standing in a room as chess pieces! It's crazy.
Lol
Geat teaching.
Thank you! :)
Funny thing, the Tetris effect (I didn't know it was called that) applies to students of Morse Code as well, especially new students.
We put a lot of time and effort into learning the code and it is much like learning music, with its being rhythmically based, among other similarities. Especially when one is new or working on a new level of proficiency, one hears Morse EVERYWHERE. Lol I mean the refigerator sends code, the guy riding by on a squeeky bicycle sends code...... It seems to come out of pretty much everything that makes any kind of sound, and it's a real struggle to not stop and try to copy (understand) it. This is true even when you know these objects cannot possibly be sending real Morse Code, but you've trained your brain to attempt to decipher it.
This goes along perfectly with what you said about seeing more of what you been concentrating on, and it even applies when the thing isn't really there!
Thanks again for all your hard work for us in making these great videos :)
Tim O
Nice story, Tim. And glad you're enjoying the videos.
I always avoid negative people. They drag me down and depress me.
Definitely a good thing to do if you can manage it.
If one can see their own flaws as part of their character and make peace w it - it bcomes part of their own unique style. Think of Thelonious Monk.
That said - the Tetris effect is new to me as well. It probably integrates w Andrew Huberman's concept of dopamine. Make hard work desirable - not the end result. In other words - don't make work miserable - it is the path to the reward that fires dopamine - not the reward. Just an insight. Thanks.
Thanks! I tend to see the flaws.. I will start doing the 3 good ones after a session.
Good stuff. I find it to be a simple but powerful exercise.
This is pretty profound.
Glad you found it interesting.
Practice is to educate your brain/ body to understand your EARS. Examiners like the Technique but interpretation?. Play in a pub while studying. Exam/audition = just another gig. Don't be afraid of your own opinion...play.."FLY MY BEAUTYS...& may the black gowned ones not get you...remember that Parallel 5ths work on electric Guitar.."