There is a lot of misinformation about this exercise online, which is unfortunately as it is a very simple movement. You literally just extend your arms and BOOM.. triceps growth. You don't even need a BAHBELL to do it either! I think you guys are really going to like this one ANNNNNNNND I decided to shorten my vid length.. Thumbs up for that!! haha ENJOY! :-D 💪 *CLICK THAT NOTIFICATION BELL SO YOU NEVER MISS AN UPLOAD!* FULL 12 WEEK PUSH,PULL,LEGS PROGRAM!- BUILD MUSCLE & STRENGTH! - muscularstrength.com/Push-Pull-Legs FULL 12 WEEK MUSCLE BUILDING 5 DAY SPLIT PROGRAM: muscularstrength.com/5-Day-Bodybuilding-Split FULL 12 Week AT HOME Workout Program: muscularstrength.com/12-Week-Home-Program
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Average Dude TV same here, i love to just superset tris with varying grips and hammer them to failure, as long as I overload the tris and fail i get the pump and can maintain that juicy horseshoe lol i usually throw in some cable curls in between too
Suggestions for future episodes T-bar vs cable vs bent over vs pendlay row Lat pull down vs pull up Wrist curls vs grip strengtheners Hack squat vs front squat
I have been teaching music in public schools for 10 years. I know a great teacher when I see one. You have a super teaching ability. Thank you for breaking everything down, especially those big words that amateurs like me don't quite understand yet. Great channel!!! Great work!!!
Good video and I agree that focusing on compounds is the important part and isolation movements are there as a compliment, and also regarding the hand position. On thing though, the long head of the triceps originates in the scapula, for this reason it also performs shoulder extension, so the triceps is a biarticular muscles, which means it crosses two joints. Keep it up Scott!
You ve changed your stance now and emphasize the importance of compounds more , not saying you said isolations work better but what people would most likely understand from your previous videos would be to use isolation exercises , good job 👏🏻👍🏻
Honestly, I feel a different (stronger) tricep contraction when I use the underhand grip. Do it right now with no weights wherever you are --- extend your arms and contract your triceps hard using an overhand grip; now flip it to an underhand grip, and contract the triceps -- I feel a much stronger contraction with the underhand grip.
Hey Scott. Awesome vid as always. You should do a video on strength curves and how you can make simple adjustments to a single exercise to change them.
Thanks so much Scott! This opened my eyes big time. I've got a long term shoulder injury which prevents me from doing dips, close grip bench press and overhead extensions so all I'm doing is pushdowns with different grips
Great content. You should start a Underhand Vs. Overhead series for some exercises and adding your own tips and tweaks. Just a tip. Loving ur tips lately. 💪✌
Nice video man! Always as informative!! But there is one thing: bringing the elbow behind the body gives the tricep a fuller contraction because the long head is also responsible for this movement. But keep up the great videos!!
Hey Scott, just discovered your channel and I wanted to thank you for the extremely informative videos. The proper form videos you put up are very clear and direct and a great help. Thanks a lot!
I normally flip around to reverse grip once I have fatigued the triceps 1st..like you said you can't do as heavy a weight but it always seems to get them sore...so they gotta keep growing..keep pushing the kicka** videos Scott Herman..,💪💪
Hey Scott, I'm doing sports for almost my entire life, but since I started to take a closer look on your videos I defently can feel and see a change!!! Thanks for that:)
As always great video content and great advice, that you've added more information on top you're definitely getting better which is hard when you're at the top
The long head of the triceps attaches to the scapula so it is involved in shoulder extension. Its not "just" elbow flexion. The position of the upper arm tends to hit different parts of the triceps because of this. Underarm grip keeps the arm from internal rotation at the SHOULDER. Internal rotation hits more of the outer head. You can feel this if you flex your triceps with the arm hanging at the side. Then internaly and externaly rotate the arm and feel that the outer head becomes almost relaxed when in external rotation and when you rotated internaly it becomes hard. This is not directly about the wrist position but that the wrist position forces the shoulder do internal or external rotation. Dont ask me why this is. The brain just tends to want to relax the outer head and let the long head work when the arm is in external rotation.
+Johan Hansson as long as you focus and have mind muscle connection you can keep your arms tight against your body and hit that head the same with overhand or underhand. :-)
Its not about keeping them tight against the body its about internal or external rotation. The wrist doesnt bend that way so you can externaly rotate with overhand grip and vice verca. Its not a "big" difference in rotation but it makes a big difference in muscle activation. And its not about right or wrong its about hitting it different. I do both. And I explained why.
A pronated grip tricep pressdown is an all-in-one basic exercise... a supinated tricep pressdown is basically a tricep kickback... which is a cutting exercise that brings out the heads of the tricep... a neutral grip tricep press down is another cutting exercise that brings out the Horseshoe in the tricep! The last two exercises are pre-contest exercises... for most people they're wasting there time, there's no contest pending!
I think their is some benefit to throwing in a tricep cable kickback in witch the elbow does stay behind the hip. This works the tricep in its most contracted position. And as long as you keep your elbow in the locked position it is very beneficial to developing a mind muscle connection as well as making a very good finisher with a bit more TUT than DB kickbacks
I prefer to use straps on underhand triceps extensions. I've got no shame, I know. But at least it gets the job done and I focus on the actual exercise, rather than worrying about the grip all the time.
As far as I know, it's right that the grip position does not really matter in your triceps training. But it's not quite correct that just extending the ellbow is all the triceps does. The long head also works when you're pulling your arm behind your body. That's why it's more engaged when your arms are over your head: It's the exact opposite of bringing your arms behind your body, so the long head is on a massive pre-stretch. Still a helpful video with useful information, I just felt like this needed to be added.
I shared a link below in my last comment. You can check the link. The underhand/overhand grip of triceps push down is not about a change in the grip: it is not about supination and pronation of the forearm muscle. It is about the internal and external rotation of the shoulder. And thus, it does have an effect on your triceps.
the reason you can push more weight with the pronated grip is that other muscles like front delts,chest etc. are helping with the movement....by using underhand grip is all triceps...grip strenght is not the limiting factor although is worked hard also...underhand grip is better,at least for me....
The long head of the triceps aides in shoulder extension as well; I think you're not quite correct saying that the triceps only extend the elbow. This is why overhead triceps exercises which pre-stretch the long head result in more long head growth; it's not just a deep stretch in general. Additionally, heavy movements (especially bench press) tend to target the lateral and medial head moreso than the long head which is what really creates a nice upper arm contour IMO. Look at powerlifters for example: they tend to have overdeveloped lateral and medial head compared to long head, and their arms typically aren't aesthetically pleasing. Personally, I have gotten much better tricep growth from heavily targeting the long head with overhead variations (cable or dumbbell extension) as well as lying DB extensions with a bit of shoulder extension at the bottom to get that extra stretch (rolling extensions). I think most isolation work should be geared towards targeting this head unless you're just genetically gifted in this area. Pullover variations will also target the long head to a degree in a more isometric fashion, which to me has helped with activation. However, the main premise of your video I agree with. Triceps pressdowns are mostly a lateral/medial head exercise so wrist position is irrelevant. I prefer to do them after I've already done an exercise to pre-exhaust the long head.
yeah the goal of the video was the triceps in relation to overhand vs underhand which is why I only talked about elbow extension as I was only addressing the wrist. Great info!
I feel like the reason some people (myself included) extend their wrist at the bottom of the movement is that it helps keep the wrist in a comfortable position while doing a one hand push down behind the hips. I tend to feel a better contraction in the long head, rather than just the lateral and medial head, when I push all the way behind my hips because it shortens the tricep even further, almost like a tricep kickback. What do you think?
Athlean x guy said that the underarm focuses a bit more of a small muscle in the tricep,like behind the arm ,a bit above the elbow. Overhand grip doesn't get the muscle THAT much and mainly focuses on the big muscle which is behind the arm going a bit up by the shoulder(the one when extending your arms and hanging down)
ScottHermanFitness I'm not an expert at anything but there are different opinions about a lot of different things so...and yes I do know the function of the tricep.
Long head of the triceps crosses the shoulder joint and is involved in pulling the arm back behind your body. Seems as though avoiding full contraction of the muscle by not doing exercises which extend the arm behind your body would be limiting potential growth.
theoretical, bringing your arm behind you (shoulder extension) would give you a better contraction, cause the tricep (long head) helps with shoulder extension.
+Bjakke well, muscles grow more with a deep stretch which is why overhead movements are best for long head. That deep stretch at the bottom of the movement
i completely agree with that. Just wanted to mention it cause you said it will just activate the rear delts ( which probably will activate to a large degree. ) but you'll also get a 'better' contraction cause like I said Triceps also help with shoulder extension. Anyway keep up the good vids bud!!!!
The long head is attached to the shoulder blade, so bringing the triceps behind would shorten the triceps longus and gets it into insufficiency (I think active). The longus is stretched in an overhead an more cross bridges can be made. The point is that a stretched arm (in the elbow) that is brought behind would involve triceps (longus) and deltioid posterior, so this would also be an excellent exercise for triceps longus but it would not be a full contraction of it.
hey Scott I'm pretty new to working out and love your channel! any chance you can do a video on muscle endurance? I always find myself getting super tired midway through dead lifts.
my coach said. lateral head = elbow doesn't move... long head..elbows can moves.. if we do tricep push down with elbow can moves then we also can hit long head...not just overhead.. that what he said~...
good for him.. a simple google search from reputable sources will show that simply twisting the wrist doesnt make a difference. Arm position is the deciding factor. :-D
Lucian Nestor I do a set with hands about shoulder width or just inside, then I do wide grip close to where lat bar starts to bend, let elbows flare slightly hits more outer and upper then go back to close grip, 3 sets of that fairly heavy on last 2 sets bam
The tricep also does GH extension... you should also try demoing supination from 90 degrees elbow flexion as you were primarily doing GH external rotation
I use both underhand and overhand for biceps, I always used just overhand for triceps I didn't know you could use underhand, I'm going to start doing it.
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There is a lot of misinformation about this exercise online, which is unfortunately as it is a very simple movement. You literally just extend your arms and BOOM.. triceps growth. You don't even need a BAHBELL to do it either! I think you guys are really going to like this one ANNNNNNNND I decided to shorten my vid length.. Thumbs up for that!! haha ENJOY! :-D
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Mixing both grips together in a superset is something I love to do, and it absolutely shreds!
yea that is what I like to call best of both worlds!
Average Dude TV same here, i love to just superset tris with varying grips and hammer them to failure, as long as I overload the tris and fail i get the pump and can maintain that juicy horseshoe lol i usually throw in some cable curls in between too
The position of the elbow according to the body makes a difference to the triceps activation ''point''.
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T-bar vs cable vs bent over vs pendlay row
Lat pull down vs pull up
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I have been teaching music in public schools for 10 years. I know a great teacher when I see one. You have a super teaching ability. Thank you for breaking everything down, especially those big words that amateurs like me don't quite understand yet. Great channel!!! Great work!!!
Good video and I agree that focusing on compounds is the important part and isolation movements are there as a compliment, and also regarding the hand position. On thing though, the long head of the triceps originates in the scapula, for this reason it also performs shoulder extension, so the triceps is a biarticular muscles, which means it crosses two joints. Keep it up Scott!
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You ve changed your stance now and emphasize the importance of compounds more , not saying you said isolations work better but what people would most likely understand from your previous videos would be to use isolation exercises , good job 👏🏻👍🏻
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Honestly, I feel a different (stronger) tricep contraction when I use the underhand grip. Do it right now with no weights wherever you are --- extend your arms and contract your triceps hard using an overhand grip; now flip it to an underhand grip, and contract the triceps -- I feel a much stronger contraction with the underhand grip.
Yeah bro, same here, that was the exact reason why I came here to see what exactly is going on. I feel the underhand way more than the overhand...
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Thank you for clearing that up I've always been abit confused witch variation to use keep it up mate.
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Hey Scott. Awesome vid as always. You should do a video on strength curves and how you can make simple adjustments to a single exercise to change them.
yeah, tips like those really help the most!!
Thanks so much Scott! This opened my eyes big time. I've got a long term shoulder injury which prevents me from doing dips, close grip bench press and overhead extensions so all I'm doing is pushdowns with different grips
Great content. You should start a Underhand Vs. Overhead series for some exercises and adding your own tips and tweaks. Just a tip. Loving ur tips lately. 💪✌
+MD Shadows that's a good idea and thanks my bro!!
Nice video man! Always as informative!! But there is one thing: bringing the elbow behind the body gives the tricep a fuller contraction because the long head is also responsible for this movement. But keep up the great videos!!
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Hey Scott, just discovered your channel and I wanted to thank you for the extremely informative videos. The proper form videos you put up are very clear and direct and a great help. Thanks a lot!
Wow nice Video Scott! I'm going to refer to this video when I go to the gym when I do triceps. Thank you and keep up the good work! 👍
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The triceps also helps extending the shoulder and adduction of the arms
I normally flip around to reverse grip once I have fatigued the triceps 1st..like you said you can't do as heavy a weight but it always seems to get them sore...so they gotta keep growing..keep pushing the kicka** videos Scott Herman..,💪💪
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Brilliant, finally some sense and advice everyone can follow. Other fitness channels should take note.
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Hey Scott, I'm doing sports for almost my entire life, but since I started to take a closer look on your videos I defently can feel and see a change!!! Thanks for that:)
Great straight to the point video.
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I legit never knew the underhanded grip. I'mma get staahted now. thanks man!!
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Thank you Scott! Surely gonna try this on my next arm day. Great videos, keep it up!
As always great video content and great advice, that you've added more information on top you're definitely getting better which is hard when you're at the top
Super helpful Scott! Thanks
As usual good information.
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Thanks for all the information Scott you've really helped me improve my form. Keep it up man!
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The long head of the triceps attaches to the scapula so it is involved in shoulder extension. Its not "just" elbow flexion. The position of the upper arm tends to hit different parts of the triceps because of this. Underarm grip keeps the arm from internal rotation at the SHOULDER. Internal rotation hits more of the outer head. You can feel this if you flex your triceps with the arm hanging at the side. Then internaly and externaly rotate the arm and feel that the outer head becomes almost relaxed when in external rotation and when you rotated internaly it becomes hard. This is not directly about the wrist position but that the wrist position forces the shoulder do internal or external rotation. Dont ask me why this is. The brain just tends to want to relax the outer head and let the long head work when the arm is in external rotation.
+Johan Hansson as long as you focus and have mind muscle connection you can keep your arms tight against your body and hit that head the same with overhand or underhand. :-)
Its not about keeping them tight against the body its about internal or external rotation. The wrist doesnt bend that way so you can externaly rotate with overhand grip and vice verca. Its not a "big" difference in rotation but it makes a big difference in muscle activation. And its not about right or wrong its about hitting it different. I do both. And I explained why.
A pronated grip tricep pressdown is an all-in-one basic exercise... a supinated tricep pressdown is basically a tricep kickback... which is a cutting exercise that brings out the heads of the tricep... a neutral grip tricep press down is another cutting exercise that brings out the Horseshoe in the tricep! The last two exercises are pre-contest exercises... for most people they're wasting there time, there's no contest pending!
Appreciate your honesty and valuable informations
I do both, and feel it in different areas, I also do close grip barbell.
I tend to do more one handed underhand grip, and the rope is great.
Great info, thanks Scott. I see I've been over training my triceps.
Always great info thanks Scott
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Scott can you please do a video about an upper body warmup routine ? Would rly appreciate it
Awsome vid as always keep it up
Good stuff! This advice assured that I was doing triceps correctly (I had some doubts).
Never heard you could do another grip on pushdown. Great video.
I think their is some benefit to throwing in a tricep cable kickback in witch the elbow does stay behind the hip. This works the tricep in its most contracted position. And as long as you keep your elbow in the locked position it is very beneficial to developing a mind muscle connection as well as making a very good finisher with a bit more TUT than DB kickbacks
yeah... ALWAYS cable kickbacks.. DB kickbacks are kinda useless imo. cables hit the triceps so much harder!
I prefer to use straps on underhand triceps extensions. I've got no shame, I know. But at least it gets the job done and I focus on the actual exercise, rather than worrying about the grip all the time.
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Yo Scott nice video and right on time, I'm on my way to the gym..!
I really needed this.Idk why I thought that a supinated grip might target the long head which is the least prominent head in my triceps.Thanks!!
As far as I know, it's right that the grip position does not really matter in your triceps training. But it's not quite correct that just extending the ellbow is all the triceps does. The long head also works when you're pulling your arm behind your body. That's why it's more engaged when your arms are over your head: It's the exact opposite of bringing your arms behind your body, so the long head is on a massive pre-stretch.
Still a helpful video with useful information, I just felt like this needed to be added.
I shared a link below in my last comment. You can check the link. The underhand/overhand grip of triceps push down is not about a change in the grip: it is not about supination and pronation of the forearm muscle. It is about the internal and external rotation of the shoulder. And thus, it does have an effect on your triceps.
awesome content as always
Love your videos man. Thanks for the tips
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Awesome vid as always
another great video Scott. thank you
thank you for this great advice Scott! I'll give it's try next time!
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I really like these shorter videos. Thanks for making the content more convenient to watch.
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I'll try some of this later on!
Yep all depends on what feels good for your body for that session regardless of grip and gotta love the Saiyan Armor gainz
Good stuff as always!
the reason you can push more weight with the pronated grip is that other muscles like front delts,chest etc. are helping with the movement....by using underhand grip is all triceps...grip strenght is not the limiting factor although is worked hard also...underhand grip is better,at least for me....
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No hate but why can't you do every video like this. This was a great video straight to the point and no other nonsense you don't need to hear
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The long head of the triceps aides in shoulder extension as well; I think you're not quite correct saying that the triceps only extend the elbow. This is why overhead triceps exercises which pre-stretch the long head result in more long head growth; it's not just a deep stretch in general. Additionally, heavy movements (especially bench press) tend to target the lateral and medial head moreso than the long head which is what really creates a nice upper arm contour IMO. Look at powerlifters for example: they tend to have overdeveloped lateral and medial head compared to long head, and their arms typically aren't aesthetically pleasing.
Personally, I have gotten much better tricep growth from heavily targeting the long head with overhead variations (cable or dumbbell extension) as well as lying DB extensions with a bit of shoulder extension at the bottom to get that extra stretch (rolling extensions). I think most isolation work should be geared towards targeting this head unless you're just genetically gifted in this area. Pullover variations will also target the long head to a degree in a more isometric fashion, which to me has helped with activation.
However, the main premise of your video I agree with. Triceps pressdowns are mostly a lateral/medial head exercise so wrist position is irrelevant. I prefer to do them after I've already done an exercise to pre-exhaust the long head.
yeah the goal of the video was the triceps in relation to overhand vs underhand which is why I only talked about elbow extension as I was only addressing the wrist. Great info!
I feel like the reason some people (myself included) extend their wrist at the bottom of the movement is that it helps keep the wrist in a comfortable position while doing a one hand push down behind the hips. I tend to feel a better contraction in the long head, rather than just the lateral and medial head, when I push all the way behind my hips because it shortens the tricep even further, almost like a tricep kickback. What do you think?
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Really good info, will be using the normal pushdown hence forth. cool outro music scott. where can i get it ?
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Overhand grip bulwark the lateral head of the triceps and underhand grip will work the medial head of the tricep.
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Athlean x guy said that the underarm focuses a bit more of a small muscle in the tricep,like behind the arm ,a bit above the elbow. Overhand grip doesn't get the muscle THAT much and mainly focuses on the big muscle which is behind the arm going a bit up by the shoulder(the one when extending your arms and hanging down)
+Mr. arFly good for him. Now research the function of the triceps. They extend the arm. Wrist position during this movement means nothing
ScottHermanFitness I'm not an expert at anything but there are different opinions about a lot of different things so...and yes I do know the function of the tricep.
Long head of the triceps crosses the shoulder joint and is involved in pulling the arm back behind your body. Seems as though avoiding full contraction of the muscle by not doing exercises which extend the arm behind your body would be limiting potential growth.
theoretical, bringing your arm behind you (shoulder extension) would give you a better contraction, cause the tricep (long head) helps with shoulder extension.
+Bjakke well, muscles grow more with a deep stretch which is why overhead movements are best for long head. That deep stretch at the bottom of the movement
i completely agree with that. Just wanted to mention it cause you said it will just activate the rear delts ( which probably will activate to a large degree. ) but you'll also get a 'better' contraction cause like I said Triceps also help with shoulder extension. Anyway keep up the good vids bud!!!!
The long head is attached to the shoulder blade, so bringing the triceps behind would shorten the triceps longus and gets it into insufficiency (I think active). The longus is stretched in an overhead an more cross bridges can be made. The point is that a stretched arm (in the elbow) that is brought behind would involve triceps (longus) and deltioid posterior, so this would also be an excellent exercise for triceps longus but it would not be a full contraction of it.
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twisting your wrist puts focus more on the lateral head and pulling past your back fully contracts your tricep muscles
+spikeboy101 lolol science is science dude. The triceps extend the arm... that's it.
hey Scott I'm pretty new to working out and love your channel! any chance you can do a video on muscle endurance? I always find myself getting super tired midway through dead lifts.
my coach said. lateral head = elbow doesn't move... long head..elbows can moves.. if we do tricep push down with elbow can moves then we also can hit long head...not just overhead..
that what he said~...
+Netslump well... he is wrong :)
Hello scott enjoyed your video...but can u do a video about diet and how to make sure u take enough protein and carbs for your body? Thanks man
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Jeff from Athlean x said in one video that the overhand grip puts more emphasis on the lateral head and the underhand grip on the medial head, what?
good for him.. a simple google search from reputable sources will show that simply twisting the wrist doesnt make a difference. Arm position is the deciding factor. :-D
ScottHermanFitness alright, thanks for the reply and the video man👍
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Lucian Nestor I do a set with hands about shoulder width or just inside, then I do wide grip close to where lat bar starts to bend, let elbows flare slightly hits more outer and upper then go back to close grip, 3 sets of that fairly heavy on last 2 sets bam
It's not abt twisting the wrists.. it's abt internal r external rotation at the shoulders that makes the difference.
The tricep also does GH extension... you should also try demoing supination from 90 degrees elbow flexion as you were primarily doing GH external rotation
The tricep also helps extending the hand behind the body
I use both underhand and overhand for biceps, I always used just overhand for triceps I didn't know you could use underhand, I'm going to start doing it.