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- The world’s most powerful government vs. the internet’s most influential whistleblower site. Is America’s war on Wikileaks an attack on journalism and free speech?
This episode of Cyberwar originally aired in 2017.
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As a US citizen, supporting the US authorities against Assange is like saying you want to be kept in the dark and not know the shady stuff they do. Which is pretty much the opposite of democracy and freedom..?
It is a double-edged sword, because you can't make your tactics public to the enemy. That's kind of just common sense. That said, as history has shown, humans cannot be trusted (especially your own government). There is just too much corruption and abuse of power. Complicated thing to sort out.
Not to be the devils advocate but some of the stuff that was leaked actually hurt America. As in information we didn’t want enemy foreign countries to get their hands on. It’s a tough topic but it is in Americas best interest to go after these people.
Pompeo just sounds like a bully who's upset that the nerd showed his dirty texts. The US can't play fair when it comes to war and they don't want their citizens to see what they do with their military , but the us citizens deserve to know. It's the lack of transparency that angers me the most.
Same! The Trump-Kushner crime family made a lot of wealth while in the Whitehouse. Ivanka was a frequent flyer to China, supposedly buying up patents. What patents? Who owns them, the taxpayers? We actually funded their criminal activity. Prove me wrong. Bring the receipts!
The American sense of superiority is fully on display here.
They are fed propaganda from their first day of school and end up believing they live in the best country on Earth. That's dangerous.
I married a yank. You can't converse with them if you try and make them see the truth. They are well and truly brainwashed.
Even Tucker Carlson spews that BS. I see him in a different light now.
Why call Julian a nerd?
I left you a comment which appears to have been deleted. I was agreeing with you and explained how Americans are brane wa$hed.
That word may have been why.
He is a bully and a despicable creature.
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If you side with the government over this, you dont understand the 1st ammendment
I'm an Aussie and we don't use or even know your constitution but it helped Julian so alls good.
Valid.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't have an opinion. You don't understand the First Amendment.
@@robynliteracy7057 You want me to read the American Constitution or every country's Constitution?
Have you read ours?
@@robynliteracy7057 I forgot to ask. Why do you think I need to understand something I'll never need?
Basically government criminals don't like being exposed
People in power never do.
Assange is an international hero. So glad he’s free
Thats funny because anyone with a brain will realize he is a GRU asset 🤡 Your hero and his wife have been getting kremlin funding for years.
hes a fckn plant so reres like you will latch on his mom has openly discussed being in MK ULTRA and how her son was too in a cult called "the family" in suburban sydney au. this was all declassified in 1997. but none of this fits in your BS narritive
Another 2017 video with no update
He's home in Australia after making a deal with the US.
Vice doesn’t have staff to make new content anymore
even more interesting, they bring it out during an election year and try to use it to influence the election. And lets not forget to mention that wikileaks had a target put on their back by the "administration of transparency": the Obama Administration
@kennyrussell8534 yeah but don't forget Australia system is puppet of American corrupt system! He's not on safe land. Btw it's something we all should worry about! Where's our freedom of rights going now days?
@@b3z3jm3nny that only applied to it's website they're moving fully to TH-cam
Criminals don’t like being exposed
If they're being exposed for it, someone would end up taking the blame for it.
@@andy56duky Yes, that would be Julian.
@@KlausBahnhof Are you calling Julian a criminal or a patsy?
@@Ellie-kb6zl Definitely the latter.
@@KlausBahnhof Thank you and I agree. I don't think this is over.
What kind of national security does America have when it commits war crimes?
all governments commit war crimes what does this even mean
Most likely terrorism
Well given a large number what a FELON as president I'd say crimes are gonna be common place....
Since 9/11, they're holding no punches. They pulled out all the stops.
@@ROBLOXGamingDavidnot really , the US military could have wrapped that all up in months if not weeks if their hands weren’t tied
Ill save you 22 minutes: he poked the bear
@@sauce4137 yup. He exposed the United snakes of America
No
He was working for the Bear and poked the Eagle 😂😂😂
@@RussianShill god you're cringe
He got f**ked by the bear - the Russian Bear :D He hosted a show on Russia Today, a Kremlin-controlled TV channel.
@@RussianShill All these years of "Russian spy" accusations and yet not a single piece of evidence has ever been produced in support. Do you still believe in the Tooth Fairy as well?
Hey Vice, why recycle this after seven years of silence? It makes no sense now.
Vice is bourgeoisie media
because they fired all their staff for trying to unionize and have no employees left to make actual content
Julian Assange is home in Australia after plea deal with US?? It makes ALL the sense?
I heard they're going bankrupt due to them having all these "woke" videos now that no one actually watches.
why are you complaining that they are releasing the content for free now on youtube? before it was behind it's own streaming platform on vice tv which is soft pay walled if you dont have tv and just internet.
10:30 “has there ever been a dump that’s helped a free speech country?” Uhhh learning we were doing bad stuff (Manning, Snowden) IS GOOD
Not if you’re a cr*m*nally complicit fedbot.
Yeah, that guy's an absolute creeper in every way. Nor does he look too formidable. I don't know what kind of brainpower goes into typical US Army 'psyops', but that dude doesn't seem like he'd be too hard to figure out, or pit wits against....
The fact that we get free videos on TH-cam by VICE News is truly a gift. 👏👏👏
Amen.
The whole internet is usa. It's not a gift. Collecting our opinions. Trouble makers will be dealt with.
This is phrased against Wikileaks. This seems like propaganda.
Surprised?
It isn't really though. It's trying to present an objective look at the issue. Journalism is just that. Journalism. If Wikileaks politicises their content, then they are propagandists too.
.... do you know what the word propaganda means?
NGL seems kind of lazy to repost this with no update. At least put in the title this videos 7 years old.
"If you take on the intelligence community they have 6 ways from Sunday to get back at you"
~Upchuck Shumer
Assange is real Hero!
Like Assange or not you can't jail people for publishing documents that are in the public interest to release
Anti corruption or Anti American, is their a difference?
Yeah, us American CITIZENS are anti-corruption and are for the truth!! It's the American GOVERNMENT and the deep state that are corrupt. BIG difference!!!!
The issue with the U.S. is that we literally began as treasonous, violent, freedom-screaming rebels (or "terrorists" now). The only reason this country exists right now is because people literally waged bloody war against the government in charge at the time. People seem to completely whoosh on this these days, and they think everything should just be handled peacefully through the same system that keeps people fucked. I'm not saying things like MAGA and raiding the capitol are in that same vein (those were horribly misguided), but it does seem fascinating to me how complacent and docile people are now in fighting back against tyranny, corruption, corporate dystopia, etc.
Freedom of Speech but not really.
freedom of speech and revealing military private information are two different things
@@ThugDollXO Wait are you BLACK defending your white master?
F the status qou keep holding these bastards accountable
Why? To cover up their illegal activity. There is no mystery here, corruption plain and simple
please put dates on the video. especially when doing an interview
The date is in the description…”originally aired 2017.”
@@SurfLife4me It's also at the beginning of the video; some people are so dumb.
Since Julien done 12 years, do you think this will squashed his light and drive for truth???
Ya ever notice how MOBocracy is advocated N0where in the Declaration of Independence N0r the Constitution?
I wonder WHY That is??
"I wonder WHY That is??" - In regards to no reference to democracy? That's pretty easy to answer & is likely best explained by using the notes of what James Madison said at one point during the Constitutional Convention.
From James Madison's own notes going over what he said:
"... In all civilized Countries the people fall into different classes having a real or supposed difference of interests. There will be creditors & debtors, farmers, merchants & manufacturers. There will be particularly the distinction of rich & poor. It was true as had been observed. (by Mr. Pinkney) we had not among us those hereditary distinctions, of rank which were a great source of the contests in the ancient Governments as well as the modern States of Europe, nor those extremes of wealth or poverty which characterize the latter. We cannot however be regarded even at this time, as one homogeneous mass, in which every thing that affects a part will affect in the same manner the whole. In framing a system which we wish to last for ages, we should not lose sight of the changes which ages will produce. *An increase of population will of necessity increase the proportion of those who will labor under all the hardships of life, & secretly sigh for a more equal distribution of its blessings.* These may in time outnumber those who are placed above the feelings of indigence. According to the equal laws of suffrage, the power will slide into the hands of the former. No agrarian attempts have yet been made in this Country, but symptoms, of a leveling spirit, as we have understood, have sufficiently appeared in a certain quarters to give notice of the future danger. ..."
Or in Robert Yates notes of what Madison said at that time:
"... Such are the various pursuits of this life, that in all civilized countries, the interest of a community will be divided. There will be debtors and creditors, and an unequal possession of property, and hence arises different views and different objects in government. ... The landed interest, at present, is prevalent; but in process of time, when we approximate to the states and kingdoms of Europe; when the number of landholders shall be comparatively small, through the various means of trade and manufactures, will not the landed interest be overbalanced in future elections, and unless wisely provided against, what will become of your government? In England, at this day, if elections were open to all classes of people, the property of the landed proprietors would be insecure. An agrarian law would soon take place. If these observations be just, our government ought to secure the permanent interests of the country against innovation. Landholders ought to have a share in the government, to support these invaluable interests and to balance and check the other. They ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority. ..."
Or from John Lansing's notes of what Madison said at that time:
"The Advantages of Government cannot be extended equally to all ... Distinctions will always exist-that of Debtor and Creditor-Property had made Distinctions in Europe before a Nobility was created-Inequality of Property will produce the same Distinctions here ..."
It's not about WikiLeaks it's about speaking the truth Nothing but the truth without fear
Intelligence is not America's strong suit
That's by design. Those in power are intelligent and have ALL the power. Everyone else they keep uneducated, bickering, divided, and clueless.
If we're that lacking in intellect while still remaining the #1 superpower, what exactly does that say about the other nations?
When did vice become a state run mouth piece?
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Always watching from Georgetown Guyana south America 🇬🇾🇬🇾
Where i can read all the wikileaks ?
look them up on google
Dark web.
Dark web.
Because Wikileaks declared war on them.
greenwald and snowden ... only one currently lives in russia.
Doesn't matter.
I’m so glad Julian Assange is finally free. I am thankful for people like him who expose the secrets of the powerful.
7:42 😂😂😂 of course. It doesn’t surprise me that some one who couldn’t handle some misinformation about climate change got pissed off and moved to… GERMANY of all places 🤣🤣🤣
He probably got a job with Vice right after that interview with them... and was one of the many at Vice that turned Vice into a Woke, Garbage media network that focused on Woke Agendas & Making Pegging Content... turning Vice into a shadow of it used to be🗑... and lead to it's downfall & bankruptcy. He probably also got a 2nd job as a "Fact Checker" too. Which is probably where all the Woke Agenda Employees of Vice went to work after they destroyed Vice.
Was this a repost?
Yes originally aired in 2017.
All current VICE uploads are reposts. In each description it is stated in which year the docu was initially aired.
bro, 1 second into the video and it says "This episode of Cyberwar originally aired in 2017." Are you a comment bot or did you actually just comment without even watching the first second of the video?
@naxaroo I was passively watching this. Not fully immersed. I asked a question and it got answered without issue. Not everything needs to be drama dude.
@@GerardoGart you aren't even passively watching lol. its literally the FIRST frame you see. like how are you even able to press play and miss the answer to your question literally ONE second into the video, and already be in the comment section to ask if it was a repost? its actually not even 1 second into the video. do you need to be hand fed an answer that is given to you immediately when you press play? and i know its not drama. im just in utter disbelief that someone is actually asking a question that is answered the moment you hit the play button.
dude @11:20 says he doesnt wanna use the word disinformation, then goes on to explain how a lie works in perfect detail when describing what he would prefer instead.
Yeah. It's not black and white, tho. Nuance.
Btw, i thumbs upped your comment. People who make intelligent comments are not in over-abundance here. Thanks.
this is sort of the worst documentary about this issue out of all
We are strong together
Best hit piece on Assange to date under the guise of fairness. Vice give this host a massive promo for the impressive acting
ahaa spot on!
Wikileaks when it comes to releasing secrets on Russia: We don't do that over here 🗿
Very Good.
I honestly thought this guy had passed away.....
Governments should be forced to be transparent by default.
Calling Wikileaks and hostile intelligence unit for showing what the intelligence units are doing is crazy
Reporter and greenwald would rather put fake bottle of drink. It will be better if they just have coffee cups on the table
It’s a water bottle you get in all decent restaurants where this is being recorded you pleb lol 😆
My dumb self thought you meant Wikipedia
I get a disturbing feeling of national shame when I think about the war on Wikileaks and the persecution of Julian Assange.
yer I bet. Not to mention the 300k innocent Iraqi civilians you killed that had nothing to do with 9/11.
Okay Ivankovich
@@BonShula lol thank you, it's been a while
Ah haven't been paying attention? Assange was a GRU asset 100% he was the vanguard. Just like Smirnoff he served his purpose. His wife and him have been getting funding from oligarchs the whole time.
@@cmbcooMe too. It's a real wakeup call that America is no longer a Democracy.
This is my problem w accounts like this. Regardless if I agree, it’s so one sided we don’t hear from each side?? Is this propaganda?
We did hear from both sides though? Like they interviewed people who are both pro-wikileaks and anti-wikileaks
Let's get it Wikipedia
Who cannot be happy with the American gov. Seriously! Karma is real.. just look at the Petro dollar. giggle
vice you guys should talk about newer cyber stuff
Unfuckinbelievable.
how much dabloons was it guys?
And why again did he only release dirt on the Democrats?
🎯🎯💯 bingo!! I was & still am for that information being released, but Assange working with Russia/Putin to target Clinton to help Trump is troubling af. He tried to push a narrative instead of just presenting everything at once & letting the chips fall where they may. And Trump still screwed him & tried to have him charged & put in prison for life
Republicans aren’t angels either but high level Democrats are totalitarians
well, perhaps they had plenty of that dirt that wasnt being talked about or acknowledged, while Republican corruption is freely discussed.... so you can feel like liberals dont get a fair shot, but they are literally the ones controlling most of media, culture and conversation in public life. They are the ones who agreed to many wars, and atrocities but you felt like it mattered when THEY said it was time for violence. well, good luck. keep your eyes peeled, you just might notice most people have stapled their eyelids shut.
Only the democrats leaked.
He released dirt on the government. Which is comprised of both parties.
Thats the ways it goes no surprise
You see him as the enemy, u don't know enough..
I'm glad that elon and steve martin have glazed donuts. can i have one?
If you really care about the world then stop posting peoples names and faces. Geo Locating and Face match systems are far beyond what we even understand.
and what about posting America's war crimes? Is that ok?
@@al9017asbsofuckinglutely. All war crimes should be exposed regardless of country
Julian is lucky he is still standing up right.
He’s got blackmail documents on some very powerful ppl who don’t want their secrets getting out as it would devastate them and the public
@@poindextertunes Some pain compliance could fix that.
In the end the cycle continues, and we all are the worse off for not knowing what politicians and those in power. do in the shadows.
How can *EXPOSING CRIMINALS* be even considered as a *CRIME* !?? How the public is silent on this and not out on the streets supporting the _whistle blowers_ ? The least the people can do is atleast try to ensure their safety. -I see no crime here by Assange, the only crime is going after him and other people like him who are doing nothing but bring the truth out!-
"... they put people at risk."
Name them.
Can we also talk about Wikileaks refusing to publish leaked documents on the Russian government back in the 2010s? This man is no hero.
So much more but you see the pictures there is so much coming from china to the plants or so polutting
If that’s vault 7 what is in vault 1 ??!!??
Julian Assange is a hero who was falsely imprisoned. Him now being free is proof there is some hope
Many hackers believe Assange was one of Putin's useful idiots.
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yea im gonna listen to vice on this one, fo sho
damn… what happened to you guys… someone should make a VICE doc on VICE and how they fell off
The delusion is real.
Um absurdo a perseguicao ao julian
water will always flow!
Never realised how so many people act very cult-like towards him, I support Assange but when some of these people talk about him its so weird and culty
growing up this was my Bermudas triangle :O
😂😂😂 Q nonsense
Far out Vice you guys and garls really have a finger on the pulse when it comes to holding corrupt actions to account.
connect server to internet
its like hydra
Fine line between free speach when it comes to protecting "protective" secrets any country MUST maintain to protect their country. The freedom to protect is as free speech.
Prove it 12:53
What is he wearing? When did hot topic go s&m?
Voice is super politicized
Why have the fed on?
this entire video never said anything coherent.
annnd its a rerun not watching
Wikileaks forever! ♾️
I am posting this from Texas Oblast fellow American
Bro, where can i find the site/page? Dark web?
I see nothing useful in this video. Just swinging here and there whether WL is good or evil.
A lot of people had the energy to watch but couldn’t like the video.
because they made hrc look bad.
i didn't even need to make a video to answer that question
Not removing the hanging tag on the mask makes it immediately uncool.
So I guess that's leaves big money hunger corporate
ICIC MOASSS
Assange is not American and the Americans were trying to put him in their cell for breaking their rules. 🤣🤣
As they take advantage of the forget wiki helps us remember
You mean the ORIGINAL STORY?
14:20 do they mean Putin? Or China? Or North Korea? Who exactly?
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To many dirty secret came out. Thats why