Another superb piece ViceJP. Being on unemployment in the EU5 is paradise compared to this, these people show admirable resilience. Also, Gavin is *the coolest*. Inspiring.
Gavin almost made me cry. He's the shit. His opinions of being a migrant with artistic tendencies, coming to the city alone, filial piety, the "importance of light within the darkness" and what you need to suffer to be successful is touching and a point that Chinese youth have that American kids lack.
Like all jobs, If u don't know someone in related job field or have some sort of connections, It really depends on quite a bit of luck. If you think looking for job is hard in US, it's likely harder in Beijing. As a matter of fact, I'm certain he already looked into jobs that requires english speaker. We are only human & not so much different from one another. Why do you think u can thought of something he hasn't thought of? =/ Sorry if that comes off a bit harsh.
Terry Chao I wasn't trying to say something he hadn't thought of. I was trying to give him a compliment. Are you saying he's tried and will never get a job because he doesn't know someone? I think that is kinda of harsh. He seemed like a positive person. I hope he finds a good job where he can support himself and help his family and be happy.
Very interesting video. It's nice to see these young guys being so optimistic despite their awful living/working conditions. It really makes me feel grateful for the stuff that I have.
i am a chinese from beijing. This is actually mainly caused by the rapid urbanisation of china. Most people that lives in these cheap underground rooms are from rural areas. They couldn't afford a decent place to live in cities like Beijing. but they still don't wanna go back to their villages. because they believe their future is brighter in the city. As a matter of fact, i consider this is a sign of progress, not only because china is becoming more urbanised but also wages are rapidly rising in all areas of the country if you ever lived in china for more than 3 years. you don't have to agree with me, it just my own opinion.
I live in Beijing and never realize how happy I am having my own place until watch this video. No matter how unequal the society is, there always are people like Gavin, and I think they are the true hope of the country. Just hope they're not hurt too badly by the dark side before having chance of success.
TIL the will of the poor in china is the complete opposite of the majority of poor Americans. Here in the states I see a lot of poor people that are extremely disrespectful and act like society owes them something. This was a very enlightening video. Thank you.
I agree 100%. These conditions in China are absolutely horrid, yet they thrive. Humbles me to see these people just taking it, and adapting to their circumstances.
True, if you compare the poor of both nations today. However China is in a different growth period then the US currently. I think if you compared the mentality of the poor of the US around 1900-1920's it would be similar to that of the modern day Chinese poor.
How did that last guy get such good English with low education and underground living? Does he work with foreigners? I guess I will have to wait for the English version of this to find out.
His English is alright. However, low employment rates among even undergraduate and master students is real factor in China now due to too many educated people but with low abilities and talent. They need to fight or cannot survive in Beijing Shanghai. Although they fight hard, it does not mean they can get a better life in Chinese society. In addition, registered birth city could control their whole life because it is very difficult to get equal treatment with other Beijing Shanghai residences because government need to protect original residences and control population in such big cities. It is unfair for them, but government has no choice. And, Anyway, even u guys say "fight! Gevin!", he never see ur comments because youtube is blocked by Chinese government.
Adirondack13 Are you dumb or something? If you look at the way China or India is growing theyre eventually gonna take over the world. Not to mention more than half of our shit is made in China
Not all that different from the US and Japan as far as getting a job in your field of study goes. Capitalism is so damn broken at this point I doubt it can be fixed.
Yes I was really impressed too! I wonder if he studied something? Would be great to know what, maybe someone could offer him a better paying job. If he’s an engineer (mechanical/electrical, doesn’t matter), I could maybe try to get him a job for a german company. But by his appearance and way of thinking I think he’s more into arts than engineering. Would be amazing to hear from him!
22:10 typical jump ups of society who we're born from the sediments tumbling its way up. But still facing those odds to gain something in life makes you wanna boast.
I was surprised by Gavins fairly good english. But he must be one of the highly educated graduates who couldn't find a job. I've lived in pretty tight places in my life but i imagine its alot worse being underground. Sometimes when you think you have a crappy life, there are people like these rat tribes who have it far worse.
This is so fascinating... sad, but fascinating. Its like that story about the people that live in the sewers of Las Vegas -- so sad that our world is like this...
こーゆーの見てると、名古屋のコンビニを仕切ってるバイトの外国人、ナイスな選択をしてるんだろーなーって思う。
最後の青年の志に感動
家族が第一という考え方は日本では薄れてきている考え方です。このビデオは本当に大切なのは家族を思う気持ちと、努力して成功する気持ちを持つことだという事を教えてくれた。自分が中国に旅行しに行った時も中国はまだ貧富の差が激しかった。今後中国がまた成長してくれることを願うとともに、日本と中国とで、有益な交流を行い、日本と中国お互いが頑張りあい、互いに教えあう。そういう関係を気づいて行きたいな。最後の人の言葉に考えさせられた。
ギャビンの明るさ、家族を思う心と強さに感動。
こういうリアルを伝えるのがメディアの本分よな。テレビはもう終わってる
中国に対してはネガティブなイメージがあったけど、この若者みたく自分の環境を理解して向上心を持つ姿勢は見習うべきだと思いました。それにしてもｔomoさんの体当たり取材はかっこいいなぁ！
戸籍の問題にはちょっと間違いがあります。同時は分かりませんが、現在では戸籍を移すことはできます。ちなみに農村戸籍を持つ人は都市では医療保険とか教育とか都市戸籍を持つ人と多き差があります。
確かに昔に比べれば、農村戸籍から都市戸籍へ移すハードルは低くなっています。ですが、日本のように完全に自由というわけでなく、500万人以上の都市では、移住に制限があります。特に北京や上海はポイント制を用いて取得人数を年数千人レベルに抑えています。 ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E4%BA%BA%E6%B0%91%E5%85%B1%E5%92%8C%E5%9B%BD%E3%81%AE%E6%88%B8%E7%B1%8D%E5%88%B6%E5%BA%A6#%E8%BE%B2%E6%9D%91%E6%88%B8%E7%B1%8D%E3%81%8B%E3%82%89%E9%83%BD%E5%B8%82%E6%88%B8%E7%B1%8D%E3%81%B8%E3%81%AE%E8%BB%A2%E7%B1%8D_%E9%83%BD%E5%B8%82%E8%A6%8F%E6%A8%A1%E5%88%A5%E3%81%AB%E5%BF%9C%E3%81%98%E3%81%9F%E5%88%B6%E9%99%90%E7%B7%A9%E5%92%8C%E5%8F%8A%E3%81%B3%E6%92%A4%E5%BB%83
この取材が6年前か……今やもう日本よりも格段に強い国になった中国…恐るべしスピードだ
Another superb piece ViceJP. Being on unemployment in the EU5 is paradise compared to this, these people show admirable resilience.
Also, Gavin is *the coolest*. Inspiring.
Gavin is the man
and very fashionable
Gavin is love Gavin is life
no pain no gain (its a mans job ) - Gavin
VICEってなんなん？すごいいいドキュメンタリー作るよね
NHKで流せばいいのにね
@Sneaky_Peaky 何でもかんでも偏って見えるのは自分の視点が偏ってるからかも…
U JP そりゃ中立なんて存在しないからね
@Sneaky_Peaky つい最近のユダヤ教の動画のやつとか偏りが顕著だよね
Sneaky_Peaky あなたの意見を否定するつもりはないが、VICEが右に偏ってると思うなら左の情報も積極的に取り入れればいい。普段光が当たらないような場所にもカメラを向けながら突撃していくVICEのジャーナル精神は素晴らしいと思う。
タンピン族のニュース見てからこの動画見るとなんか変化を感じる
なるほどー。勉強になりました 。北京の労働者が凄い環境で住んでるとは聞いていましたが、映像で初めて観ました。あとトモさんの取材も初めて観ました！
数年前の取材なんですね。
10年以上前、オリンピックの次の年に北京に旅行で行きました。
高層ビルや高層マンションが立ち並び、整然として発展著しい所が目立っていましたが、その足元でこういう古い建物が残っていました。
でも、まさかベッドだけが自分のスペースとして暮らしている若者が居るとは思ってもいませんでした。
しかも地下に住んでいる人が居るとは…
驚きです。
Gavin almost made me cry. He's the shit.
His opinions of being a migrant with artistic tendencies, coming to the city alone, filial piety, the "importance of light within the darkness" and what you need to suffer to be successful is touching and a point that Chinese youth have that American kids lack.
最初の人いい人だな
Awesome documentary. Won't see this on TV.
就職出来るまで卒業させないで，外部には就職率99%以上ってひど過ぎるアル。
日本は卒業証書くれるけど、内定もらうもらわないに関わらずもらった者だけ就職希望した…という建前で99%の就職率を出している。中国よりはマシだけど目糞鼻くそ。
The last guys' english was very good. He should try for a job that needs an english speaker.
Like all jobs, If u don't know someone in related job field or have some sort of connections, It really depends on quite a bit of luck. If you think looking for job is hard in US, it's likely harder in Beijing. As a matter of fact, I'm certain he already looked into jobs that requires english speaker. We are only human & not so much different from one another. Why do you think u can thought of something he hasn't thought of? =/ Sorry if that comes off a bit harsh.
Terry Chao
I wasn't trying to say something he hadn't thought of. I was trying to give him a compliment. Are you saying he's tried and will never get a job because he doesn't know someone? I think that is kinda of harsh. He seemed like a positive person. I hope he finds a good job where he can support himself and help his family and be happy.
*****
Plus i think vice would be censored because vice always talk about controversial topics.
tummy lice 灭弧室的工作是在下降了。谷歌是新的解释。(translated via google translate)
My ex-gf told me, u cant watch youtube or go on facebook unless you "know how", so they are basicly inaccessible for the general public.
Very enlightening. Thanks Vice Japan!
Very interesting video. It's nice to see these young guys being so optimistic despite their awful living/working conditions. It really makes me feel grateful for the stuff that I have.
全ての人に共通していたのは、ここから這い上がるというギラギラしたエネルギーを感じた事。今は貧困だけど、いつかは抜け出す、という思いがあるよね。今の日本人は同じ境遇で同じマインドになれるかどうか・・・。最後の青年は普通に英語を話している。地方出身と言っているけど、どこかで教育を受けたという事だよね。日本の感覚からするとそこそこの仕事につけそうな気がするけど。この青年の素性も気になった。
The last guy was amazing. He was spot on about what he had to say about sucess
i am a chinese from beijing. This is actually mainly caused by the rapid urbanisation of china. Most people that lives in these cheap underground rooms are from rural areas. They couldn't afford a decent place to live in cities like Beijing. but they still don't wanna go back to their villages. because they believe their future is brighter in the city. As a matter of fact, i consider this is a sign of progress, not only because china is becoming more urbanised but also wages are rapidly rising in all areas of the country if you ever lived in china for more than 3 years. you don't have to agree with me, it just my own opinion.
Rock on, Gavin!
China vice should hire Gavin so he can help vice with translating and stuff and he can get out of his problems
あり族も今の日本の若者と変わらねえじゃねえか
環境は違えど将来への考え方はちかいんですね
せやな
社会のせいでこれだけ酷い生活を強いられてるのに、独裁政権への不満を一切言わずに自己責任だと語ってるのが恐ろしい 洗脳と統制を感じる
さ
希望を捨てない、絶対に成功するという強い信念。これは、これで凄い。
6年前の動画だから、今はだいぶ様変わりしただろ
中国はこの10年で様変わりした
@@mojimozu1448 五毛頭ですか？
日本人も自己責任好きだけど、中国人も好きなのね。施政者には理想の民族だ。
I live in Beijing and never realize how happy I am having my own place until watch this video. No matter how unequal the society is, there always are people like Gavin, and I think they are the true hope of the country. Just hope they're not hurt too badly by the dark side before having chance of success.
People with descent assets and education like you must know that chance Gavin could succeed in some way less than one out of a million
やっぱり表は綺麗でもこういう地下とか衛生管理が届いていない所からコロナウイルスとか出てくるんやな
thumbs up to the kid in the end. great attitude, we all can learn from him.
I agree I found him very intriguing and kinda captivating to watch and listen to
19:36
都市戸籍と農村戸籍の差が生んだ貧富の差
こう見たら日本って案外幸せな国なんだな
井の中の蛙大海を知らず
案外ではなく、間違いなく幸せな国である
R L 表面上じゃなくても普通に最高やぞ。
普通に生活する分にはすごく幸せ 金持ちになったり 楽しようとすると難しいけど
last guy was cool as fuck should do a follow up or something with him
蚁族。。。They do have good attitude. I somehow admire them.
last guy was pretty cool
Gavin's attitude toward life is great.
I do not appear motivated to work recently, and this video makes me motivated.GAVIN encourage me.
「向上するには積み重ねていくしかない」
これを国民が忘れたらお終いだな
その点では中国人は未だ大丈夫
国家は知らないけどね
last guy spitting straight sage
もう10年前の動画なんだな。今の中国見てるけど、もっと状況は悪くなった。
一つの事に対する丁寧な取材、そこから見えてくる国家の問題、登録させて頂きました。
A great interview to end with.
最後の青年。向上心バリバリでチャンスがあったら直ぐに掴めそう。
日本でいうと、ネカフェ難民に近いのかな。
郵便物とかは受け取れるだろうか。
Very good documentary. I hope things improve for them.
Gavin凄いな
Come to Singapore. There are poor people too despite the many rich people.
例えばだけど、幼少女子に将来何になりたい？って質問して
保母さんになりたいーって言ったとする
ホノボノするのが日本人
労働者になるな！幼稚園保育園の経営者になれ！と叱るのが中国人
That last guy was cool.
TIL the will of the poor in china is the complete opposite of the majority of poor Americans. Here in the states I see a lot of poor people that are extremely disrespectful and act like society owes them something. This was a very enlightening video. Thank you.
I agree 100%. These conditions in China are absolutely horrid, yet they thrive. Humbles me to see these people just taking it, and adapting to their circumstances.
True, if you compare the poor of both nations today. However China is in a different growth period then the US currently. I think if you compared the mentality of the poor of the US around 1900-1920's it would be similar to that of the modern day Chinese poor.
17:47位に「火を使った調理」って言ってるけど、チラッと見えたのは火を使わないIH調理器具だ。 電気コードも見える。
そもそも火なんか使ったら暑くて仕方ないし、燃料が要らないIH調理器具のが1,000円チョイで買えるしずっと手軽。
除さん歯白いの羨ましい
高額物件のエレベーターが日本のアパート並なんだが...
おいおい...テラフォーマーズでネズミ族にビビってたのにマジかよ...凄いな
新型コロナウイルス感染症の流行でこの方々はどうなったのだろう？
3:36 sick air-con
適当な会社に内定させて就職率を水増しするやり方は日本の専門学校でもありますね。…おっと誰か来たようだ。
世界中にありますね
Gavin seems like a cool dude
Never give up hope! :D Go Gavin and the ant and rat tribes!
KAZUchannelのKAZUさんにそっくりな人がいる
すごいジャーナリストだな
元ネズミ族の男性、英語話せてるし本当、、、。社会主義って…
社会主義は幸せになれない。みんな平等、つまりみんな苦しいってこと。みんなの中に含まれない人たちだけが良い思いして生きてる。中国ってそういうまさに混沌とした国だよ。
中国は社会主義と言えるのか疑問
統制資本主義っぽい
政治は社会主義で、経済は資本主義と社会主義のミックス。
君モグタン 民主主義資本主義の国の私たちから見たら、とても歪に見えますよね。
Wow, the last guy is good. He will be successful for sure.
How did that last guy get such good English with low education and underground living? Does he work with foreigners? I guess I will have to wait for the English version of this to find out.
What do you mean with English version? There's english subs in this video. As for that guy, i'd assume he studies linguistics?
there are English subs? Strange I guess I must have had them turned off somehow.
Ye man, no problem. it's off by default, click the cc button!
puu.sh/6ucGJ.jpg
His English is alright.
However, low employment rates among even undergraduate and master students is real factor in China now due to too many educated people but with low abilities and talent.
They need to fight or cannot survive in Beijing Shanghai.
Although they fight hard, it does not mean they can get a better life in Chinese society.
In addition, registered birth city could control their whole life because it is very difficult to get equal treatment with other Beijing Shanghai residences because government need to protect original residences and control population in such big cities. It is unfair for them, but government has no choice.
And, Anyway, even u guys say "fight! Gevin!", he never see ur comments because youtube is blocked by Chinese government.
住に一番金がかるのは世界共通ですね
China has its issues, but so does the United States.
China is a great place and I hope to visit there one day.
China is the future, after all...
Adirondack13 Are you dumb or something? If you look at the way China or India is growing theyre eventually gonna take over the world.
Not to mention more than half of our shit is made in China
Not all that different from the US and Japan as far as getting a job in your field of study goes. Capitalism is so damn broken at this point I doubt it can be fixed.
+Jon Doe Because Socialism works like a charm, just look at the ghettos of France. or the "NO GO" zones of the UK
Ankit Malik these are capitalist societies you are listing off you do realise that right?
“纠结”を混沌やCHAOSに通訳するのはちょっと変
幸福の科学じゃなきゃ気持ち良く観れるのに
I'm having it unbelievably easy in Sweden..
The last guy's English ability is very impressive. I'm quite curious about what he does for living. (1000 CNY a month?)
Yes I was really impressed too!
I wonder if he studied something?
Would be great to know what, maybe someone could offer him a better paying job.
If he’s an engineer (mechanical/electrical, doesn’t matter), I could maybe try to get him a job for a german company.
But by his appearance and way of thinking I think he’s more into arts than engineering.
Would be amazing to hear from him!
Another excellent one VICEJapan
another view of my home town
将来の日本の姿だよ
I found this to be informative.
This reminds me of the capsule hotel in Japan. Yet on the ground though.
r u serious bro, capsule hotels are nice as fuck if u ever stayed in one
hahaha, how can you even start comparing capsule hotels to the ghettos of china?
damn... the ignorance of people...
great doco
22:10 typical jump ups of society who we're born from the sediments tumbling its way up. But still facing those odds to gain something in life makes you wanna boast.
I was surprised by Gavins fairly good english. But he must be one of the highly educated graduates who couldn't find a job. I've lived in pretty tight places in my life but i imagine its alot worse being underground. Sometimes when you think you have a crappy life, there are people like these rat tribes who have it far worse.
This is so fascinating... sad, but fascinating. Its like that story about the people that live in the sewers of Las Vegas -- so sad that our world is like this...
gavin is super cool.
いま、どうなってるんだろ
Vice - Please come to Hong Kong and make a documentary! We have all sorts of shit going on here!
日本で英語喋れたら余裕にいい生活できるとおもうけど 中国ではできない。。。 すでに負けてる気が。。。
まぁ仲良くやっていけたらいいな
ほぼ10年後の今、かつての若年層たちはどうしているんでしょう…
Some subtitles would be nice vice
There is English subs... What do you mean?
press the "CC" button on bottom right of youtube player lol
The Rat Tribe living quarters are like the VIP version of the ones the Sewer Kids Of Bogota live in lol (its an old vice video).
勉強になりました。多謝
最後の彼はABCかな？
顔出しで怖くないのかな。
今も彼らはいるんだろうか。ネズミ族なんてこのコロナ禍だとまっさきに潰されそうな感じだけど。
Can we get a voice over for blind people? I can’t feel bumps on my phone screen for fucks sakes.
Gavins guitar is slightly out of tune in the high strings that made my ears twinge a bit. Lol, first world problems.
知り合いにも中国人多いけど、金持ちと貧乏人の差が大きすぎる。
nice video but I HATE THE SHAKY CAM
Every developing country went through more or less the same stages of what Chinas going through now. Only China's seem bigger b/c of the population.
こんだけ人口がいたら良い意味でも悪い意味でも日本と桁違いだな
就職率の話、HALも同じだよ。
内定取らないと卒業出来ない
いいこと聞きました！
めっちゃ昔のコメントだけど笑
最終的に、インテリヤクザに堕ちていく。
Gevin Fight!!