Hi I have been following this instruction for the past 4 months. My ball striking has improved vastly. It's not my opinion but my playing partners who can't believe the improvement in accuracy and distance. My distance has improved by about 5%. Doesn't sound a lot but my 8 iron has improved by 10 yards. 150-155 for a 63 year old isn't bad. Really delighted i found this sight. Keep up the good videos. Thank you
I spent a few hours on the range the other day. Got frustrated and started for home. Then, I noticed a friend at the members range on the other side. He told me about this video. But more importantly, he showed me how to do those drills. I immediately started hitting the ball better. It was a real eye opener. Thank you!!!
Online Swing Analysis with Craig Hanson • Same as TH-cam Video Format but with your swing on the screen • Side by side Examples • 20-25 minutes analysis you receive tailored drills and exercises • your swing analysis comes in a compressed email format • I personally analysis your swing • personal contact available on social media and zoom calls if desired I can be your Coach!
I have all this and heaps more on 🌎WorldClassGolf.Com TH-cam is only a portal to get people to notice that there’s a higher level of instruction and it’s not being shown in TH-cam. Evidence Based Material TH-cam has simply conflicting information with no structure. Try this - don’t do this - wait try this - the best tip ever - this changed my golf forever - so much crap! - mediocrity placed on a pedestal.
Thank you for this video. I reworked my back-swing starting about 2 years ago - I had gotten across the line at the top and I changed to a more laid-off position. Ever since I have struggled wit my down-swing. I tried making a "40-55" shoulder turn and I've finally started to make more consistent swings. This one thought has improved my down-swing path.
The bit about angles of shoulders is gold. I have been working hard on turning the shoulders and been practising with the club/practice sticks across the shoulders but never seen the actual angles before. I am 59 and I am now hitting the ball further and straight than when I was 22. Tks
never had a PGA Pro teach this in a lesson to me; my grandsons teaching pro just pointed this out to me Wednesday then I find this on your site. Fantastic. winter time practice drills. Thank You!
Wow! Just a fabulous lesson. This is as good as I have ever seen with such good explanation and practice drills. Thank you so much. I’m subscribed and will be viewing your videos.
The fact that Craig uses science and evidence is HUGE! Many coaches do not do this, which makes it hard to visualize on what we need to improve on in our swings.
Hi Craig, thank you for this great insight and illustration. I noticed the same concept would apply for longer clubs/drivers, the pros seem to have this "steeper" shoulder angle compared with amateurs, and is just as critical. But is the angle generally shallower for drivers compared with irons? Do you perhaps have any information related to that? Thanks again for the awesome video!
Fantastic Craig I love your and Dr Neal's insights into the technical aspects of a great swing, the consistency across top players with those shoulder angles indeed has blown me away! Plus, your drill at 8 min 'left hand on right thigh' into the backswing is amazing it made me feel what I now think is correct amounts of tilt & turn for both shoulders and hips wow.
I am so very grateful for your video. I was a two handicap for decades and became sick for 5 years just started back playing golf a year ago and have been strugging significantly could not get anything lower than 15 handicap. That is until I followed the drills in this video and shot five over the other day. Thank you thank you thank you I can't say thanks enough!
In order to execute the downswing on the angle you prescribed, I tell myself to “miss the ball on the inside”. But I never do miss it. Instead my right shoulder “automatically” goes under and I hit the ball flush. Getting right hip higher also helps a lot. Many thanks!
These are EXACTLY the drills I was looking for. My shoulders have been so flat compared to where they should be. Going to start on this ASAP. Just discovered you, Craig. A resounding thanks already is in order.
Thank you for this video, your hands on the outside of thighs into impact drill is as you describe "a belter" it has improved my ball striking immediately, please say high to Dr Rob I worked with him at Croydon Driving range (UK) years ago via Stuart C. Thanks for your hard work, R.
As always Craig, getting to the meat of the issues without excessive verbiage; love it! On backswing can our angle be more than 40 or so degrees? Or would that make it more difficult to come in at the 55 degree angle?
Great Video I know that when I miss big on the course its because of my shoulder angle . All of those homes that got pummeled from my power fade ( massive slice ) was due to poor angle through impact .lol
Craig thank you for all your videos...As an Instructor you have helped me reinforce my instruction...Thank you...I'm really interested in your big headed practice iron...can't seem to find it on the internet can you tell me who makes it or where I can pick one up...thanks!
Craig's swing is actually more balanced and fluid than most of the "pros" he highlights. I wish he would do a slow motion video using different camera angles of his swing only. I think it would be a very helpful visual for viewers!
It stays fairly constant yes. The driver is 4-5 degrees less in the backswing. There’s heaps of information on WorldClassGolf.com You don’t find that with the TH-camrs
Great vid as always mate. As an Aussie, I love that you refer to an exercise as a “belter” 😂. When you do your German vids, do you use a literal translation?
Golf Magazine did this exact same thing in a three part series of December 1996. It was called "You Vs "It". Once a scratch player, I was losing my game and about to quite. I could no longer hit the ball straight at age 55 This and a lot of work on the range brought me back. Page 28, "The Science Of The Swing" by Micheal McTeigue. He hooked his computer device up to 150 pros and a whole bunch of amateurs. Then a very skilled artist detailed the differences which were many. Basically they detailed what is known as "The Modern Golf Swing". And it works. I credit Curtis Strange and Jimmy Ballard for all this. When Strange won back to back U.S. Opens with a whole new and different swing it started the new era away from the old Casper, Nicklaus, and Miller lateral hip slide. It is also the father of the "connected" swing.
Personally i have found the hard way,that"connection" is an illusion caused by good sequencing. Im sure Ballard was a great and influential teacher but i must have read his book wrong! i gave it away!as i ended up with a laboured overconnected heaving sway! But connection ie stuffing things under armpits! can instantly improve a bad players short game and for that im grateful.
@@grahamjones7371 Sorry.... Good sequencing is "timing" and it never is reliable. "Connection" is exactly the opposite and that is why it bears that name. The arms and shoulders are "connected" to the body and this eliminates most timing. It is how you hit the ball straight most of the time. Establishing and maintaining "connection" is very hard to do. This is why many touring pros today take the club back part way one time before hitting the ball. They are assuring themselves that they will begin the swing with muscles located just above their belt line, not their shoulders and arms. The first six inches of take-away is extremely critical in this regard just as Nicklaus insisted all of his life, but never explained why. You can never recover from a "snatched" take away in that first 3 to 4 inches or so. It is all timing from there as no connection was established. This is also why every touring pro says to keep your hands centered to your chest.
@@mesillahills I agree with what you say here but its not achieved by gluing (ie sticking stuff under armpits) your arms to your body.Its done with athletic anticipation just like in every other sport youve been good at! Its just a lot harder in golf as youre not moving. ie the ball and you are stationary. AA is using the ground to get your big muscles moving milliseconds b4 your arms.Timing is the secret of all sports its just that in most our lowerbody is already moving in anticipation and/or a ball is coming at us and in anticipation we are moving into position/creating space for our arms to strike, moving our big muscles early.
@@mesillahills My attempt to show the difference between athletic anticipation.sequencing/connection and stuffing things under armpits.To simplify everything below the bottom rib is connected to/loads/works against the ground and using athletic anticipation starts milliseconds first.Everything above the chest is connected to/loads/works against the handle/club,the sequencing in this strike triangle starts milliseconds first in the muscles connected to the shoulders and flows down the arms to the hands, whilst as ballard states maintaining the triangle.Golf is like rubbing your stomach and patting your head! Hard to do but achievable!
Craig, The drill against the wall seems as though you are not achieving the 55 Deg shoulders on the way back and the 41 Deg through impact? As both sides of the club ends seem to be the same distance from the wall back and through?
@@robdiggeden2258 Hi Rob, i the idea of the drill is to create feelings of the shoulders going steeper. Feelings you want then use when you are practicing. Simply doing drills like this don’t change your swing, but supply you with feelings so when you practice hard, you can make change. The best way is really to measure your shoulder plane in slow motion.
Amazing coincidence! Problem is, I just can't do it myself without having to see the doctor next day. So I keep flatten out a bit, still hit a good pill. Quite remarkable piece of research, mister Hanson!
Watched this today - FANTASTIC drill. Attached a small torch to an alignment stick to see my angles. And hey, "all up the pole"! MORE work to do...😂 Thanks Craig 👋👋
Great video great drills,its taken me 4 yrs of snakes/ladders to get to this! so save yourself years and do what craig shows.When i was a 14hcp with a big laboured over connected sway my left heel stayed on the ground,now im a 4 hcp with a move like craig shows it comes up slightly tho im not aware, i am aware of my left kidney area rotating/getting behind ball better.But this body action depends massively on a good set up which im sure Craig has a video on,unfortunately most golfers,unlike tour pros set up badly and wont work on it, cos its boring!
Thanks Graham. Interesting post 👍. Very true about the set up. Unfortunately people think it’s boring that’s really spot on. Unfortunately on TH-cam the videos need certain titles. Lots of clips. A certain type of style and language and topic to keep the viewers engaged. This is where videos like the address position completely flop. They don’t hold the viewers attention. Poor watch time means = No views. No views means it doesn’t cover the cost of editing and time and it actually costs money to make. That’s why I put together WorldClassGolf.com that’s got everything in there 1300 videos. It’s interesting when you said it’s taken 4 years of snakes and ladders to get to this. You mean you where trying lots of different things? Thanks for posting 👍
@@CraigHansonGolf Yes i was searching for the secret via rabbit holes of theory! I thought set up was boring. Now when im asked for help i tell them work on Setup,Sequencing,Stability,Skills,Strength Speed(glad i havent got a lisp!),But they dont get it,Setup is boring,Skills,why what(every good golfer can bounce a ball on a wedge,i learnt to).They just want to know the latest theory or head down left arm straight etc im glad im not a golf pro! Then i tell them to forget all that,the secret of golf is the same as any other sport,Athletic Anticipation or as you show in different ways get behind the wall then smash it down! and release.
If like me you are mad enough to want to set up and strike it like a tour pro! (this requires athletic/sporting ability) Two huge reasons why you will find this simple set up so hard to do! 1 You will feel like your dominant right eye can't look at the ball and is looking way behind it 2 you will feel like your body is totally blocking moving the club back! So use Athletic Anticipation from the ground up and create space.
The timing of the shoulder move is critical....so is everything else in the swing. Just don't hit at the ball but learn to swing the entire club mechanism. Alot of things will make sense. Its not difficult but trying to hit the ball with the clubhead sure is.
I’ve given 40,000 lessons over 25 years ive unfortunately spent a lot of time looking down at golf ball it’s how my spine is shaped .. ive putted for hours and hit 2.5 million balls its the shape of my back
Dont see what causes the angle of shoulder decent to increase from 41 to 54. Some of the video you show it looks like the spine angle has actually gone slightly vertical. So how is the shoulder angle steepening when the spine angle in going the opposite direction?
What steepens the shoulders? You want to know what muscles or what area of the body steepens the shoulders? Why can’t we steepen the shoulders just by steepening them?
It’s a different yes. There’s a complete driver series and shoulder plane series with drills and programs on WorldClassgolf.com 1400+ videos 85 Series and practice programs It’s not all in TH-cam. TH-cam is a jungle stuff all over the place. It’s free you can’t expect much. Great chat 💬 Room in the World Class Golf Community 👍 Thanks for posting
It isn’t tilt \ or turn but rather side bending of the spine ) which changes the shoulder angle of good ball strikers. I discovered this by putting myself into the position of the pros at the point the ball leaves the face of the club and have taught others by starting them out doing the same thing. The only way to get into that position is with side bend. After starting there and then going in reverse up to the top and back down again one realizes the biomechanics are the same as when tossing a rock side arm across a pond. If side bend is started progressively at the top of the backswing it drops the hands in a circle down and forward and tucks the trail arm into the the side and also causes a reflexive lateral shift of the hips to target - the subconscious brain’s intuitive solution for staying in balance over the feet as the upper body mass shifts backwards is to send the mass of the middle and lower body forward. Why don’t golfers side bend intuitively? In my case at a beginner it was reading and hearing advice about not swaying the hips and maintaining spine angle which I interpreted as meaning keeping it straight. Everyone I’ve coached by first posing them at the ball release position then moving them backwards up to the top and back down improved their swings dramatically in about 10 minutes which is why that method probably isn’t taught by anyone trying to make a living teaching golf. 😂
@@grahamjones7371 What you say is true, but analogies only work if the target audience is familiar with the analog action. In practice what I have people I coach do is throw golf balls at the ground just in front of them at a downward angle. The reason for having them doing the exercise isn’t the arm action, it is the fact they are not side bending in their downswings. Asked why they didn’t after doing the drill the answer is along the lines of thinking “maintain spine angle during the swing” means keep spine straight in all directions.
My question is: these numbers should change with club choice. I imagine driver would be the flattest of the bunch. do you have numbers for the driver? I would be curious to know what the average is for the 550 pros with their drivers. I looked at my numbers with a 3-wood and I go 30 to 42.
Hips and head counter balance humans subconsciously in the coronal plane. During the swing the weight of arms and golf club swinging create a force that our subconscious balance system adjusts for by hips moving away from the ball and head moving down as a result of hip movement. This explains why at impact the head of great golfers is about 7 inches closer to the ground than at address.... so of course shoulder angle is steeper as head lowers during the DS..
Unfortunately most golf instruction is ignorant of autonomic systems of the body/mind and the golfers is lead to believe these are consciously initiated and consciously controlled movements... wrong.
I am older still playing fast pitch softball so much of this pertains to baseball/fast pitch swing surprinly enough many baseball people all the way to big leagues don't get this there are differences
Interesting stuff, but I don’t understand how these drills get the shoulders on a steeper plane on the downswing compared with the backswing? Am I missing something?
@@CraigHansonGolf all I was asking was for you to tell me which specific drill, or part of the drill, concentrates specifically on putting the shoulders on a steeper plane coming down. You made a big point about the angle needing to increase significantly on the throughswing compared with the backswing, but it seems to me that the shoulder angle stayed pretty constant on the back and through swing with these drills.
@@wanderingbrummie all of the drills emphasise the lead shoulder lifting in the right shoulder lowering. Which assist in supplying feels up assist golfers in their practice and self experimentation. Film your swing and take a look. Try and retry. I don’t know how else to explain it that wasn’t explained in the video. There is no secret. I’ve supplied a free video with numerous great drills and top information. The rest lies with you. Lots of people take swing analysis lessons off me but many don’t because they have to pay and they keep searching online for a answer they never find
@@CraigHansonGolf sorry, judging by your last comment I obviously touched a nerve by asking a question without signing up for a paid swing analysis. No worries, wasn’t my intention, good luck.
4-6 degrees in the backswing Through swing close to the same All numbers and series are on WorldClassGolf.com Driver series vs Iron series 1300 videos 75 Master Class Series It’s not all in TH-cam
Noticed you don't have a very strong grip. I've only played golf for 2 years and I feel like I just strike the ball better with a more neutral or slightly weak grip. All I hear is to strengthen my grip. Golf is so confusing.
Work out what works for you. I have a neutral grip. But I’m 50 years old. Back then we where taught that strong grips where do bad. But then all the players that had them where generally really string hitters. If I could start again I’d have a stronger grip. Some things are not possible to change after a certain point
The wall drill looks like the angle on back swing and down swing are the same... not like the pros at the beginning where the down swing angle is increased.
I hear what you are saying Craig about the left knee, But unfortunately some golfers force that left knee to bend before they have even started their back swing - the left knee should bend automatically after the extension of the back swing (arms) the golf swing is like a spring gate - what moves first - comes back/down last - simple yeah - well many can't achieve this and this is why there are so many amateur golfers! I tell myself - hips before my tits - it works - if I remember - I am 72 come next September! Cheers Craig!
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Hi I have been following this instruction for the past 4 months. My ball striking has improved vastly. It's not my opinion but my playing partners who can't believe the improvement in accuracy and distance. My distance has improved by about 5%. Doesn't sound a lot but my 8 iron has improved by 10 yards. 150-155 for a 63 year old isn't bad. Really delighted i found this sight. Keep up the good videos. Thank you
That’s Paul. That’s so good to hear 👍👍. I appreciate you taking the time to post
I spent a few hours on the range the other day. Got frustrated and started for home. Then, I noticed a friend at the members range on the other side. He told me about this video. But more importantly, he showed me how to do those drills. I immediately started hitting the ball better. It was a real eye opener. Thank you!!!
👍great to hear
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Try this - don’t do this - wait try this - the best tip ever - this changed my golf forever - so much crap! - mediocrity placed on a pedestal.
Thank you for this video. I reworked my back-swing starting about 2 years ago - I had gotten across the line at the top and I changed to a more laid-off position. Ever since I have struggled wit my down-swing. I tried making a "40-55" shoulder turn and I've finally started to make more consistent swings. This one thought has improved my down-swing path.
Thanks Jim 👍👍 great to hear
Thank you for posting this video. Drills at 5:00 and 11:00 are fantastic.👍🏻👍🏻
Your welcome thanks for sharing
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The bit about angles of shoulders is gold. I have been working hard on turning the shoulders and been practising with the club/practice sticks across the shoulders but never seen the actual angles before. I am 59 and I am now hitting the ball further and straight than when I was 22. Tks
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never had a PGA Pro teach this in a lesson to me; my grandsons teaching pro just pointed this out to me Wednesday then I find this on your site. Fantastic. winter time practice drills. Thank You!
Thanks Richard great feedback 👍
Tried this at the driving range yesterday. Wow! Ball compression vastly improved. Thank you.
Awesome 👊
Wow! Just a fabulous lesson. This is as good as I have ever seen with such good explanation and practice drills. Thank you so much. I’m subscribed and will be viewing your videos.
Thanks I appreciate that. It’s nice to start to reach more and more people.
Thanks for taking the time to post 👌
The fact that Craig uses science and evidence is HUGE! Many coaches do not do this, which makes it hard to visualize on what we need to improve on in our swings.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Hi Craig, thank you for this great insight and illustration. I noticed the same concept would apply for longer clubs/drivers, the pros seem to have this "steeper" shoulder angle compared with amateurs, and is just as critical. But is the angle generally shallower for drivers compared with irons? Do you perhaps have any information related to that? Thanks again for the awesome video!
It’s around 4-5 degrees less with a driver
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Fantastic Craig I love your and Dr Neal's insights into the technical aspects of a great swing, the consistency across top players with those shoulder angles indeed has blown me away! Plus, your drill at 8 min 'left hand on right thigh' into the backswing is amazing it made me feel what I now think is correct amounts of tilt & turn for both shoulders and hips wow.
Thanks Martin that’s great to hear really appreciate it 👍👍
I am so very grateful for your video. I was a two handicap for decades and became sick for 5 years just started back playing golf a year ago and have been strugging significantly could not get anything lower than 15 handicap. That is until I followed the drills in this video and shot five over the other day. Thank you thank you thank you I can't say thanks enough!
Austin great news- never give up 👍💪
In order to execute the downswing on the angle you prescribed, I tell myself to “miss the ball on the inside”. But I never do miss it. Instead my right shoulder “automatically” goes under and I hit the ball flush. Getting right hip higher also helps a lot. Many thanks!
Nice post thanks
The lipstick analogy is amazing. Great video
Thanks Gina thanks for taking the time to post
These are EXACTLY the drills I was looking for. My shoulders have been so flat compared to where they should be. Going to start on this ASAP.
Just discovered you, Craig. A resounding thanks already is in order.
Thanks for posting Jonathan enjoy the journey
Thank you for this video, your hands on the outside of thighs into impact drill is as you describe "a belter" it has improved my ball striking immediately, please say high to Dr Rob I worked with him at Croydon Driving range (UK) years ago via Stuart C. Thanks for your hard work, R.
Thanks Richard appreciate it
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Craig this is amazing. I ran the degree lines, I was 37 on the back swing and 51 on the downswing. I thin a lot of shots!
what software or app do you use to do that? I'd love to check those numbers on my swing but don't know how
Wow.. got My first par 4 eagle today, thanks so much for your lessons and tips. I practice that move with a Broom.
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Thanks so much for posting
Great video, Craig! Very well done
Thanks Eric 👍
This is THE best video instruction I have ever seen in my 35 years with golf. Thank U so very, very much for this video.
Thanks for the great feedback! - Really appreciate it 👍👍
As always Craig, getting to the meat of the issues without excessive verbiage; love it! On backswing can our angle be more than 40 or so degrees? Or would that make it more difficult to come in at the 55 degree angle?
It’s physically very demanding to be more than 40. Try around 40
Wow! Really excited to try all these drills!!!
Good luck Nathan
Thanks. It was good tips but more importantly, very good lesson.
Thanks Oscar
Great Video I know that when I miss big on the course its because of my shoulder angle . All of those homes that got pummeled from my power fade ( massive slice ) was due to poor angle through impact .lol
😊😊.. thanks for posting 👍
This is a very awesome tip I’m glad that I found your video. Thank you
Thanks Len 👍👍
Thanks Len 👍
Craig thank you for all your videos...As an Instructor you have helped me reinforce my instruction...Thank you...I'm really interested in your big headed practice iron...can't seem to find it on the internet can you tell me who makes it or where I can pick one up...thanks!
That’s great! - confirmation Is great!
The club is called momentus I believe they don’t make them anymore.
I saw it online 15 years ago
This instructor has one of the best centered backswings I've ever seen. It makes his swing into impact position effortless.
Thanks for posting
Craig's swing is actually more balanced and fluid than most of the "pros" he highlights. I wish he would do a slow motion video using different camera angles of his swing only. I think it would be a very helpful visual for viewers!
@@peterconroy3444 Agreed!
This is the greatness single explanation of all time.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks Paul 💪💪
Fantastic information. Is the shoulder angle through the turn the same regardless of the club, eg. driver vs. PW for instance?
It stays fairly constant yes. The driver is 4-5 degrees less in the backswing.
There’s heaps of information on WorldClassGolf.com
You don’t find that with the TH-camrs
Great vid as always mate. As an Aussie, I love that you refer to an exercise as a “belter” 😂. When you do your German vids, do you use a literal translation?
Ha ha ha ha you have keep the Aussie slang and tradition going 😂
Languages are funny sometimes you just can’t translate it over 👍
Thank you great explanation really looks fantastic when you do it
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Thanks so much I really appreciate you taking the time to post 👍👍 - thanks
Now that's great SCIENCE! THANK YOU SIR.
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Very good instructions. I enjoy it. Thank you sir.
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Are you located in Europe?
@@CraigHansonGolf Hi Craig. South Africa.
This is a great video! Really helped my contact! TY
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Great stuff. Still trying to decipher a lot of it, but first have to get out of bed and actually have a club in my hands to try the drills 😂
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That's a great video. The wall drill gave me some great sensations. Will definitely work on it
Thanks Victor.. yes it’s one of the best drills
Outstanding Teaching.
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Very much appreciated Andrew
Golf Magazine did this exact same thing in a three part series of December 1996. It was called "You Vs "It". Once a scratch player, I was losing my game and about to quite. I could no longer hit the ball straight at age 55 This and a lot of work on the range brought me back. Page 28, "The Science Of The Swing" by Micheal McTeigue. He hooked his computer device up to 150 pros and a whole bunch of amateurs. Then a very skilled artist detailed the differences which were many. Basically they detailed what is known as "The Modern Golf Swing". And it works. I credit Curtis Strange and Jimmy Ballard for all this. When Strange won back to back U.S. Opens with a whole new and different swing it started the new era away from the old Casper, Nicklaus, and Miller lateral hip slide. It is also the father of the "connected" swing.
Very interesting 👍 thanks for sharing
Personally i have found the hard way,that"connection" is an illusion caused by good sequencing.
Im sure Ballard was a great and influential teacher but i must have read his book wrong! i gave it away!as i ended up with a laboured overconnected heaving sway! But connection ie stuffing things under armpits! can instantly improve a bad players short game and for that im grateful.
@@grahamjones7371 Sorry.... Good sequencing is "timing" and it never is reliable. "Connection" is exactly the opposite and that is why it bears that name. The arms and shoulders are "connected" to the body and this eliminates most timing. It is how you hit the ball straight most of the time. Establishing and maintaining "connection" is very hard to do. This is why many touring pros today take the club back part way one time before hitting the ball. They are assuring themselves that they will begin the swing with muscles located just above their belt line, not their shoulders and arms. The first six inches of take-away is extremely critical in this regard just as Nicklaus insisted all of his life, but never explained why. You can never recover from a "snatched" take away in that first 3 to 4 inches or so. It is all timing from there as no connection was established. This is also why every touring pro says to keep your hands centered to your chest.
@@mesillahills I agree with what you say here but its not achieved by gluing (ie sticking stuff under armpits) your arms to your body.Its done with athletic anticipation just like in every other sport youve been good at! Its just a lot harder in golf as youre not moving. ie the ball and you are stationary.
AA is using the ground to get your big muscles moving milliseconds b4 your arms.Timing is the secret of all sports its just that in most our lowerbody is already moving in anticipation and/or a ball is coming at us and in anticipation we are moving into position/creating space for our arms to strike, moving our big muscles early.
@@mesillahills My attempt to show the difference between athletic anticipation.sequencing/connection and stuffing things under armpits.To simplify everything below the bottom rib is connected to/loads/works against the ground and using athletic anticipation starts milliseconds first.Everything above the chest is connected to/loads/works against the handle/club,the sequencing in this strike triangle starts milliseconds first in the muscles connected to the shoulders and flows down the arms to the hands, whilst as ballard states maintaining the triangle.Golf is like rubbing your stomach and patting your head! Hard to do but achievable!
I love to have your swing-effortless with high compression!
Thanks Willie
Incredible info
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Yes ! But don’t forget the right bent wrist at the top to position the club head square or just a little bit closed , for me it changed my life !
Thanks
New sub here: How much of a difference in terms of steepness degree shoulder rotation compare to a driver swing.
4-6 degrees lower with the driver on the backswing. The through swing can vary . But generally it’s high 40s to mid 50s
Very informative.
Thanks Al 👌
What an observation. Great discovery!
Thanks 😊
Wondering if the angles of the shoulder changes when u are using a shorter club( 8 iron etc)
Thks
No not much with the higher irons very similar
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Great tips
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Craig, The drill against the wall seems as though you are not achieving the 55 Deg shoulders on the way back and the 41 Deg through impact? As both sides of the club ends seem to be the same distance from the wall back and through?
Rob it’s 40 degrees on the way back and 55 degrees on the way through Rob .. not the other way around
@@CraigHansonGolf ok but the question stands either way. Should the distance of the club ends change as the angle changes?
@@robdiggeden2258 Hi Rob, i the idea of the drill is to create feelings of the shoulders going steeper. Feelings you want then use when you are practicing. Simply doing drills like this don’t change your swing, but supply you with feelings so when you practice hard, you can make change.
The best way is really to measure your shoulder plane in slow motion.
I love this
This is great stuff!!
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Amazing coincidence! Problem is, I just can't do it myself without having to see the doctor next day. So I keep flatten out a bit, still hit a good pill.
Quite remarkable piece of research, mister Hanson!
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Watched this today - FANTASTIC drill. Attached a small torch to an alignment stick to see my angles. And hey, "all up the pole"! MORE work to do...😂 Thanks Craig 👋👋
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Will angles not be different between a wedge and a long iron given purely distance between golfer to ball shallows or depends the angle?
A few degrees but not much
Excellent stuff. How much do shoulder angles differ with short and long clubs?
They do change a few degrees
Great video great drills,its taken me 4 yrs of snakes/ladders to get to this! so save yourself years and do what craig shows.When i was a 14hcp with a big laboured over connected sway my left heel stayed on the ground,now im a 4 hcp with a move like craig shows it comes up slightly tho im not aware, i am aware of my left kidney area rotating/getting behind ball better.But this body action depends massively on a good set up which im sure Craig has a video on,unfortunately most golfers,unlike tour pros set up badly and wont work on it, cos its boring!
Thanks Graham. Interesting post 👍.
Very true about the set up. Unfortunately people think it’s boring that’s really spot on.
Unfortunately on TH-cam the videos need certain titles. Lots of clips. A certain type of style and language and topic to keep the viewers engaged.
This is where videos like the address position completely flop. They don’t hold the viewers attention. Poor watch time means = No views. No views means it doesn’t cover the cost of editing and time and it actually costs money to make.
That’s why I put together WorldClassGolf.com that’s got everything in there 1300 videos.
It’s interesting when you said it’s taken 4 years of snakes and ladders to get to this. You mean you where trying lots of different things? Thanks for posting 👍
@@CraigHansonGolf Yes i was searching for the secret via rabbit holes of theory! I thought set up was boring. Now when im asked for help i tell them work on Setup,Sequencing,Stability,Skills,Strength Speed(glad i havent got a lisp!),But they dont get it,Setup is boring,Skills,why what(every good golfer can bounce a ball on a wedge,i learnt to).They just want to know the latest theory or head down left arm straight etc im glad im not a golf pro! Then i tell them to forget all that,the secret of golf is the same as any other sport,Athletic Anticipation or as you show in different ways get behind the wall then smash it down! and release.
If like me you are mad enough to want to set up and strike it like a tour pro! (this requires athletic/sporting ability) Two huge reasons why you will find this simple set up so hard to do!
1 You will feel like your dominant right eye can't look at the ball and is looking way behind it
2 you will feel like your body is totally blocking moving the club back!
So use Athletic Anticipation from the ground up and create space.
This truly is world class. Craig, how Do I get an online lesson with you?
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There’s different deals. Look forward to improving your golf Robert.
👍 thanks for posting
The timing of the shoulder move is critical....so is everything else in the swing. Just don't hit at the ball but learn to swing the entire club mechanism. Alot of things will make sense. Its not difficult but trying to hit the ball with the clubhead sure is.
Awesome video Thanks!!! Keep em coming!!!
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Mind blown! Great to practice at home for the entire winter. 😛
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No need to worry about hurricanes when the foundation is meaningful! Grateful for lifelong lessons sir.
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Rotate correctly in the downswing (as opposed to swinging the arms) and watch the shoulder angles change.
I've never seen the swing explained this way. I'm going to apply these drills to see if they help with my inconsistencies.
Thanks Michael
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If you are doing the drill against the wall, isn’t the back and down on literally the same angle??? So 41/55 isn’t accurate for the drill?
Appreciate your opinion
I notice you have a slight curvature of your upper spin at setup
I’ve given 40,000 lessons over 25 years ive unfortunately spent a lot of time looking down at golf ball it’s how my spine is shaped .. ive putted for hours and hit 2.5 million balls its the shape of my back
Dont see what causes the angle of shoulder decent to increase from 41 to 54. Some of the video you show it looks like the spine angle has actually gone slightly vertical. So how is the shoulder angle steepening when the spine angle in going the opposite direction?
What steepens the shoulders? You want to know what muscles or what area of the body steepens the shoulders?
Why can’t we steepen the shoulders just by steepening them?
Do these angles stay consistent across all clubs or do they change for driver etc?
Okay I saw you answer this same question as I scrolled through the comments.
i can do this with my irons and hybrids but struggle with the driver ... is it any different
It’s a different yes.
There’s a complete driver series and shoulder plane series with drills and programs on WorldClassgolf.com
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It’s not all in TH-cam. TH-cam is a jungle stuff all over the place. It’s free you can’t expect much.
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Thanks for posting
It isn’t tilt \ or turn but rather side bending of the spine ) which changes the shoulder angle of good ball strikers. I discovered this by putting myself into the position of the pros at the point the ball leaves the face of the club and have taught others by starting them out doing the same thing. The only way to get into that position is with side bend.
After starting there and then going in reverse up to the top and back down again one realizes the biomechanics are the same as when tossing a rock side arm across a pond. If side bend is started progressively at the top of the backswing it drops the hands in a circle down and forward and tucks the trail arm into the the side and also causes a reflexive lateral shift of the hips to target - the subconscious brain’s intuitive solution for staying in balance over the feet as the upper body mass shifts backwards is to send the mass of the middle and lower body forward.
Why don’t golfers side bend intuitively? In my case at a beginner it was reading and hearing advice about not swaying the hips and maintaining spine angle which I interpreted as meaning keeping it straight. Everyone I’ve coached by first posing them at the ball release position then moving them backwards up to the top and back down improved their swings dramatically in about 10 minutes which is why that method probably isn’t taught by anyone trying to make a living teaching golf. 😂
I can see why you use the tossing a rock analogy but its closer to a low topspin baseball pitch as to skim a rock you release palm up.
@@grahamjones7371 What you say is true, but analogies only work if the target audience is familiar with the analog action. In practice what I have people I coach do is throw golf balls at the ground just in front of them at a downward angle. The reason for having them doing the exercise isn’t the arm action, it is the fact they are not side bending in their downswings. Asked why they didn’t after doing the drill the answer is along the lines of thinking “maintain spine angle during the swing” means keep spine straight in all directions.
Does this hold true for driver and fairway woods?
Not exactly no
My question is: these numbers should change with club choice. I imagine driver would be the flattest of the bunch. do you have numbers for the driver? I would be curious to know what the average is for the 550 pros with their drivers. I looked at my numbers with a 3-wood and I go 30 to 42.
Have a look in the other comments
@@CraigHansonGolf 35-50 found it thanks
I think you have one of the smoothest swings I've ever seen.
Thanks Andrew lots of hard work
Do those angles remain the same even with a driver?
No they are 4-6 degrees less
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Pretty swing. Checked my angles I’m good. Thanks
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I noticed that you take your trail thumb off the club just before takeaway. Is that something that we need to do?
No definitely not
Hips and head counter balance humans subconsciously in the coronal plane. During the swing the weight of arms and golf club swinging create a force that our subconscious balance system adjusts for by hips moving away from the ball and head moving down as a result of hip movement. This explains why at impact the head of great golfers is about 7 inches closer to the ground than at address.... so of course shoulder angle is steeper as head lowers during the DS..
Unfortunately most golf instruction is ignorant of autonomic systems of the body/mind and the golfers is lead to believe these are consciously initiated and consciously controlled movements... wrong.
Thanks for posting
I am older still playing fast pitch softball so much of this pertains to baseball/fast pitch swing surprinly enough many baseball people all the way to big leagues don't get this there are differences
Great content. I subscribed and liked it. Only suggestion: maybe a less sloppy, disjointed edit?
Thanks. What edits do you mean? Not sure I understand.
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@@CraigHansonGolf Love brother!!! I appreciate everything you bring to golf!!! Your wisdom and insight is a gift!
Interesting stuff, but I don’t understand how these drills get the shoulders on a steeper plane on the downswing compared with the backswing? Am I missing something?
I don’t know how I can add to this with multiple drills and shared screen clips
Sorry you don’t understand.. good luck
@@CraigHansonGolf all I was asking was for you to tell me which specific drill, or part of the drill, concentrates specifically on putting the shoulders on a steeper plane coming down. You made a big point about the angle needing to increase significantly on the throughswing compared with the backswing, but it seems to me that the shoulder angle stayed pretty constant on the back and through swing with these drills.
All of them
@@wanderingbrummie all of the drills emphasise the lead shoulder lifting in the right shoulder lowering. Which assist in supplying feels up assist golfers in their practice and self experimentation.
Film your swing and take a look. Try and retry. I don’t know how else to explain it that wasn’t explained in the video.
There is no secret. I’ve supplied a free video with numerous great drills and top information. The rest lies with you.
Lots of people take swing analysis lessons off me but many don’t because they have to pay and they keep searching online for a answer they never find
@@CraigHansonGolf sorry, judging by your last comment I obviously touched a nerve by asking a question without signing up for a paid swing analysis. No worries, wasn’t my intention, good luck.
How much tilt with the driver? Shouldn't it be flatter?
4-6 degrees in the backswing
Through swing close to the same
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Noticed you don't have a very strong grip. I've only played golf for 2 years and I feel like I just strike the ball better with a more neutral or slightly weak grip.
All I hear is to strengthen my grip. Golf is so confusing.
Work out what works for you. I have a neutral grip. But I’m 50 years old. Back then we where taught that strong grips where do bad.
But then all the players that had them where generally really string hitters.
If I could start again I’d have a stronger grip. Some things are not possible to change after a certain point
That wall drill really showed up how much i've lost flexibility. Thanks
Thanks for posting Paul I really appreciate it
Theres a 1500 Videos and stretching program on WorldClassGolf.com
The wall drill looks like the angle on back swing and down swing are the same... not like the pros at the beginning where the down swing angle is increased.
Please try it it’s really difficult
use your anterior chain and watch the magic unfold
I hear what you are saying Craig about the left knee, But unfortunately some golfers force that left knee to bend before they have even started their back swing - the left knee should bend automatically after the extension of the back swing (arms) the golf swing is like a spring gate - what moves first - comes back/down last - simple yeah - well many can't achieve this and this is why there are so many amateur golfers! I tell myself - hips before my tits - it works - if I remember - I am 72 come next September! Cheers Craig!
Thanks Alan 👍👍