Don't Stop Breaking Your Wrists! - Effortless Speed!

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  • @michaeldodd6864
    @michaeldodd6864 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bought the Deep to Shallow programme. Broke 90 (86)for the first time this year just last week. Had some nice comments from my playing partners on how smooth my swing looked too! Craig is the best!!

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it’s a great series they are going to advertise it internationally at the start of 2025 season 👍👍 .. thanks so much for sharing

  • @ejcarey6679
    @ejcarey6679 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yep, this is some of the best instruction on TH-cam! Bravo mate.

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really appreciate that thanks very much 👍👍

  • @HmKhan-z2s
    @HmKhan-z2s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love that swing of yours Craig has to be one of the best on the internet

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks man…. i think Eric Cogorno swings really good.. just finished a video series with him actually. He can hit it!!

  • @SentuDimon
    @SentuDimon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your swing is just so good! …Sometimes I just watch it over and over again love the content Craig thank you so so much.

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well that’s very nice of you i must be doing something right 😊😊

  • @mroggaming0.1
    @mroggaming0.1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just found this channel you should have 1 million subscribers. No joke. Brilliant!

  • @valuedentclinic
    @valuedentclinic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The averages of movement! This is the best instruction i’ve seen.

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much taking the time post i really appreciate it 👍👍

  • @amadulsDiary-ve3tx
    @amadulsDiary-ve3tx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Craig your instruction has completely changed my game. I can’t believe what i was working on before. Thanks so much.

  • @ToirecMaiga-zv9rk
    @ToirecMaiga-zv9rk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    His online lessons are amazing highly recommend. Another great video Craig

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the plug 👍👍

  • @AbdooulAuwalu
    @AbdooulAuwalu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is by far the best instruction on TH-cam. Evidence Based. I don’t need 10.000 golf tips i need facts. Thanks Craig

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you gotta follow the good stuff. I think people tend to follow TH-camrs with a lot of subscribers. It’s natural. We follow what others follow…. But unfortunately, thera so much conflicting information these days in the Internet..

  • @tonyloerlein2655
    @tonyloerlein2655 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank-you Craig!!! I went out & golfed & worked on the proper movement of the hands. I’ve always had zero to few degrees of shaft lean. I have spent several thousands on lessons & no one ever taught this hand motion. I went out today & was able to get the proper hand release working. I’ve been golfing for 40+ years. I’m look forward to working with you in the near future. The difference with the proper hand release is UNBELIEVABLE!!

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome 👍👍👍👍👍.. thanks so much for sharing

  • @TerrbleTyson
    @TerrbleTyson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is so needed for me right now. Craig, I’ve been watching coaches that like to preach not rolling the hands over because of consistency issues but I feel like trying to keep the hands from rolling is a detriment to my swing that causes physical issues in hands and wrists.

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly 👍.. thanks for sharing

  • @UPDATED101
    @UPDATED101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Amazing info there on the right arm Craig never seen that before thanks :pray:

  • @steves3422
    @steves3422 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is just what I need! Been working the wrist hinge, unhinge, and rehinge. This video lets me understand this very important part of the swing. Thank You!

  • @fishingjeepbc9519
    @fishingjeepbc9519 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A swing thought which helped me achieve the grip pointing up was trying to brush the side of my trail knee with the palm of my trail hand. I found this worked because:
    -I obviously wouldn't strike my knee with my trail hand, so it forced me to clear my hips, shallow my swing, and most importantly prevent me from creating an "internal rotation of the elbow" as discussed in one of your previous videos, in order to stop me from striking my knee with my hand.
    -It promoted an in to out swing path which produced my desired draw while still allowing me to fade my shorter irons
    -Because I was trying to strike my knee with the palm of my trail hand, it forced me to hinge my wrists and release at the right time
    The internal rotation of the elbow is discussed in another video, but I was struggling with putting it all together because I found I was pushing the trail arm to create the swing, much like a slap-shot in hockey, rather than relaxing and releasing the arms/wrists. This swing thought I believe helped me because it put all of these concepts together while promoting a relaxed, smooth swing because my swing is essentially anchored around the trail knee, not the golf ball. Does any of this make sense?
    I tried this at the range with a bucket of balls and for the first time in a few years, every ball that came off the club face felt like butter and produced a very repeatable shot shape and height.
    When I tried this swing thought, I realized where my hands were finishing, and it reminded me of this video which I had watched a few weeks ago.
    Thank you!

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re very welcome nice post 👍

  • @SuperKing-d2v
    @SuperKing-d2v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How good is this content! Best instruction on TH-cam!

  • @rizon406
    @rizon406 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This really works! This man knows exactly what he's talking about... 💪🏼

  • @richd9363
    @richd9363 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you sooo much for this. Gave me the AH HA moment I needed. Last year a lost about 10-15 yards on my irons and my wedges. Couldn’t figure out why. I saw a picture someone took of me swinging a 5 iron years ago and I noticed that my hands were like you described post impact. Then I realized that for some reason, it seemed like I just stopped doing that but I couldn’t figure out how to get it back. Once it happened upon this video, it only took me about 2 weeks to put this move back into my swing. Played the other day and dropped about 12 strokes off my gave over the week prior. Hitting bombs again with driver and getting started on my intended line. I can now swing slower with more control which improved distance, control, and accuracy. You’re sooooo right about how the body follows the hands. Felt some stretches in some muscles I haven’t felt in a while. Thank you thank you thank you for making this kind of instruction free for all of us!!! Best of luck to you Sir!!!

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richd9363 Thanks very much great post 👍

  • @MaikaiGuy
    @MaikaiGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just started watching this guy. I practiced his last two lessons and I picked up about 5 yards of carry distance. And my swing feels easier!!! Amazing.

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great news .. now you’re moving in the right direction! 👍👍.. thanks for taking the time to post

  • @cesarmonroy8442
    @cesarmonroy8442 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After watching this video it help me realize that I’ve been dragging the club all the time never release it . After practicing this I hit my lowest round 71 . Thank you Craig

  • @CraigHansonGolf
    @CraigHansonGolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for sharing .. always working on my swing

  • @suncitypro1
    @suncitypro1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Craig and Bobby Jones-hands in the swing! Hogan said he wished he had three right hands!

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍👍… Thanks for sharing

  • @JD-ev1uj
    @JD-ev1uj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been golfing for years and now 66. I read every article, book, whatever and practiced for years. Then I magically had a swing. It was b/c after my initial takeaway I got my forearm to rotate slightly for the wrist angle. Didn't know what I was doing but it worked so well I could play scratch golf. But now older, I'm seeing what I didn't know. Thanks.

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your welcome thanks for sharing 👍👍👍

  • @anjah.8444
    @anjah.8444 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Intelligent.. same time easy to understand … great teaching video … thanks Craig 👌🏽👍🏾

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really appreciate you taking the time to post 👍

  • @shashikantsidnal4198
    @shashikantsidnal4198 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I learnt a new finishing technique thank you sir

  • @rjswish
    @rjswish 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great work Craig. It takes a while to get things through my thick skull. Strong grip combined with the underneath release results in very solid, straight shots.

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome news! .. good stuff

  • @ahadtanveer1869
    @ahadtanveer1869 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing!

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    @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @CraigHansonGolf
    @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

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    @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @Murf1802
    @Murf1802 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Craig as always, outstanding, life to short to play crappy golf, I may tattoo that on my forehead lol, Craig as I'm watching your lesson I've moved up in lofts ,no more players irons, getting older,so I'm gaming the pro 225 and I'm regripping and taking a 1/4 inch off the long irons, as im watching this lesson, ive seen many, many of your videos, this one is right up there at the top. Range tomorrow morning, and I'll be rewinding and watching this masterpiece the whole session. Thanks man, love it.

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re very very welcome. Really appreciate you sharing 👍👍.. good luck

  • @KwokSengLai
    @KwokSengLai หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great

  • @michaeljeremiah9221
    @michaeljeremiah9221 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice 👍🏻

  • @richardpascoe1859
    @richardpascoe1859 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Craig. Thanks for your dedication to us Ams. Can you please let us all know at what point do the wrists start "rolling". Does this technique, like many, require repetitive drills/practice.

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it takes long term commitment and patience.. i don’t believe it’s possible to answer when the writes start rolling exactly it’s hitting those key check points and practicing 👍👍

    • @richardpascoe1859
      @richardpascoe1859 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for such a prompt reply. I'll get to work

    • @richardpascoe1859
      @richardpascoe1859 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for such a prompt reply. I'll get to work

  • @patriotscientific
    @patriotscientific หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr. Hanson, I have seen the hack moton device on the lead wrist.

  • @steventaylorson5253
    @steventaylorson5253 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When i was growing up in the 70's Henry Cotton used to teach that it was all about the hands. All us kids laughed- seems he was right 😂!

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well there you go 😊👍.. thanks for sharing. Really appreciate you taking the time

  • @Moneypenny76
    @Moneypenny76 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Craig, could you do a video on the difference between that "under" release you're talking about and "flipping" releasing the club. As an amateur I have a hard time understanding the difference between the two. Thx for your videos

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ll see that happens thanks for sharing

  • @oceanyt8
    @oceanyt8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi are we supposed to lock the right wrist before and upon ball impact ?

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ???

    • @oceanyt8
      @oceanyt8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CraigHansonGolf the wrist crease which setup during upswing , do we have maintain it until we strike the ball ?

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no not that much it would be to much .. you can’t think that at impact it’s moving to fast … your better working on the check points i showed in the video 👍

    • @oceanyt8
      @oceanyt8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CraigHansonGolf Got it. Many thanks. Will give a try..

    • @oceanyt8
      @oceanyt8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I cracked it and everything coming through. My best ever ball contact for the last 2 tries. You’re the man !

  • @stevepaulsen1916
    @stevepaulsen1916 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s with the late lateral hip movement in your backswing Craig?

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you mean?

    • @stevepaulsen1916
      @stevepaulsen1916 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠​⁠@@CraigHansonGolf
      Don’t get me wrong. I think You have a great swing. You have a pronounced lateral hip action late in transition. You also have a very straight right leg at the top à la Sam Snead. I wish I could get that. I played right behind Snead in the Colorado open in the late 80’s so I got to see him closeup. You have the same build as him(thick upper body) so you have the propensity to swing like him. The big difference in mechanics is he had that bow legged squat in transition. Also if you could see Snead hit a ball you would be alarmed at how much he pulled it. He aimed right and hit a pull fade on several shots that I watched. You’ll blend an earlier hip rotation with your lateral move when attempting a pull. I spent some time with Mac OGrady in the early 90’s and we discussed this. Mac would tell you what he told me. Your setup, ball position and intent will determine a lot of your sequencing. You’re hip action will take on a different look if you practice hitting pulls. He would also give you the same lesson he gave Seve. Go bow legged. I’m from the generation of guys who were taught to keep our knees pointed inward (Misinterpretation of Hogans book). It was hard for me to give up. Every time I saw Mac he had to mention it. Then one day I just decided to hit a lot of balls bowlegged in transition and it transformed my game. Sorry to ramble. Love your content. Keep it coming

  • @chuckross8839
    @chuckross8839 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Craig , How do you swing the Precision Impact trainer , when the right wrist will be bent , but will keep you bent and not allow one to get the left wrist bent, right wrist into flexion .
    The Precision Impact trainers lower have digs into the top of my wrist ?

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's the most ridiculous training aid ever created.. what a joke the wrists don't do that .. Dr Robert Neal has tested 550 PGA pros .. the trail wrist moves into flexion .. your been scammed your working on the incorrect motion with that ridiculous piece of crap on your wrist.. throw it in the bin

    • @chuckross8839
      @chuckross8839 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CraigHansonGolf Craig , Totally agree on the PI trainer , It impedes the pendulum of a proper swing . It doesn't allow a full release to the correct wrist position on the forward side . I have to give it to you Craig , Your the first teacher that explains the correct use of the wrists and performs the swing pretty darn close to the late Mike Austin. My question to you today if you had to have only one swinging aid to drive these principles of the wrists conditions of the full out free wheeling swing what would you pick ? Okay two if you have to. One that just flat out works , that no bin will be needed to throw it in. LOL. Must Appreciated double Cheers

    • @chuckross8839
      @chuckross8839 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Craig, I find it interesting the Inventor of the PI trainer promotes your site in favor of the PI trainer.

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chuckross8839 is he really? He sent it to me i put it on once and thought oh my gd how bad is this … i told him im not interested

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chuckross8839 The hanger and hackmotion

  • @JamesSpaw
    @JamesSpaw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does this release work for seniors?

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very well 👍

    • @JamesSpaw
      @JamesSpaw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CraigHansonGolf Thank you for your prompt response! Tried the release when playing today with some success. Seems like when I concentrate on the release I cut down by turn both back and through the ball.

  • @michaelsliwinski8044
    @michaelsliwinski8044 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent and informative. Thanks! I have one comment / criticism however. Using the word or description "effortless" is at a minimum misleading and for most amateurs unhelpful and not how it feels... nonetheless a great video with your detailed demonstrstions.

  • @gordonsteen5560
    @gordonsteen5560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Craigjust watched my first video of yours. Where are you based?

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Germany actually.. i’ll be doing golf schools in the states next year.
      I teach most pros and amateurs online. Unfortunately most people believe still believe you have to meet physically to improve.
      Such a shame for so many people out there. Watch this quick video..
      worldclassgolf.com/online-lessons

  • @jasongonzalez4866
    @jasongonzalez4866 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does Adam Scott close his eyes at impact?

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  หลายเดือนก่อน

      i’m not sure .. some guys do

  • @redwards883
    @redwards883 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great technical video would feel seem like you're trying to get the club head over, taking the although they don't

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing .. not sure i understand the question

    • @redwards883
      @redwards883 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @CraigHansonGolf sorry I was just wondering if you have the feeling that the club head overtakes your hands after impact but flipping them

  • @hayche1986
    @hayche1986 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you had to pick only one tutorial from TH-cam, this would be the one. The late flip I like to call it

  • @Lee-ps3ts
    @Lee-ps3ts 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m pretty the problem with my game is I need a bigger club head

  • @Lil-monkeyo
    @Lil-monkeyo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't understand how this increases speed and compression? I see speed but it reduces compression?

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Reduces?? 😊… it enables golfers to increase angles in the downswing… Which increases the angle of attack. Which in turn increases compression and shaft lean. Try and pay attention and listen before you just write ✍️ without thinking … How many slow motions examples and clips and information do uou need?

  • @rizon406
    @rizon406 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey - what happened to the video that was uploaded yesterday? Disappeared pretty fast!

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There was a couple of mistakes in it .. will upload a new one wednesday or thursday

    • @rizon406
      @rizon406 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CraigHansonGolf Looks like a great video!

  • @Longarmshortarm
    @Longarmshortarm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    where can i get one of those giant clubs. 😂

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don’t think they make them anymore

  • @theimpaler5034
    @theimpaler5034 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes correct but you have to have a N grip most have weak or strong grip that’s why Scott is so good he has a N- grip

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You cant compare Amateurs to Adam Scott? - Unfortunately most amateurs don’t have much talent. Sorry to say.
      That’s why 90% flip in downswing, slice, no compression, stand up.

    • @theimpaler5034
      @theimpaler5034 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CraigHansonGolf wasn’t comparing AM with pros I meant that if you don’t have a N grip with what your teaching it’s not going to work

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why? - Please explain.
      Are you a Professional Instructor?

    • @theimpaler5034
      @theimpaler5034 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CraigHansonGolf no I’m not a pro I’ve had 15 y of professional coaching i don’t think a strong grip is good unless you have crazy control I use to have strong grip swing like Dustin Johnson strong grip collapses at the top and hit it a long way I changed I had no control

    • @theimpaler5034
      @theimpaler5034 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And I was swinging the DJ before he became popular on tour as it was my.natural swing and my ciatic nerve kept pinching. In
      My lower back now at 47 I don’t have that problem with my swing change

  • @sjmckee1609
    @sjmckee1609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lag or delay, Moe Norman

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what does that mean?

    • @sjmckee1609
      @sjmckee1609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just mean releasing your wrists at the last possible time to increase club head speed as you even mention lag. Moe Norman also called it delay at one time. This is also what Ben Hogan did too. Had to get the timing right but sure is worth it when you do.

  • @michaeldodd6864
    @michaeldodd6864 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Life is too short to play crappy golf !! Have you been hanging out with Tom Saguto??

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does he say that? .. he’s funny that guy!

  • @Sambogey
    @Sambogey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its come from spine

  • @jltotheb5550
    @jltotheb5550 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok but how is he two people??? One man with a black shirt and one man with a blue shirt???

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Filmed on different days … a complete mystery that only super intelligent people can understand 😊

  • @shadyzz9549
    @shadyzz9549 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is exactly how I've always swung my clubs, and have always had major distance over most people I'd play with...
    HOWEVER, you can't even begin to imagine how many people have told me in my lifetime that I break my wrists too much & argue with me about it
    Hilarious.

    • @CraigHansonGolf
      @CraigHansonGolf  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes most golfers are completely lost

    • @shadyzz9549
      @shadyzz9549 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CraigHansonGolf Indeed, however sadly I'm not even referring to "most golfers"... I'm talking about registered PGA pros, aka golf coaches & teachers who I'd either get sorted out with on a course or at the range...