5 Reasons we can't follow the Gospel and the Law at the same time

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  • This is critical for the body of Christ to understand. There are so many people dealing with the bondage of thinking they are required to keep the Old Covenant laws like eating kosher, keeping the seventh day Shabbat, keeping the Torah feasts, and so on. The NT teaches that those traditions are permitted for followers of Jesus, but they are not required. So it’s important to understand the freedom we have in Christ, and why we cannot follow the Law of Moses and the Gospel of Jesus at the same time. We are forced to choose on so many issues. In this video we look at 5 of those issues.
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    Part I (Solberg): • Why we cannot follow t...
    Part II (Wilber): • Can we follow the Gosp...
    Part III (Solberg): • The Law of Moses and t...
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    CHAPTERS
    00:00 Introduction
    03:09 The argument: 5 reasons we can’t follow Moses and Jesus
    04:35 Reason #1: God’s Priests
    08:53 Two Hebrew Roots Arguments
    11:46 Reason #2: God’s Temple
    16:02 A “Torah-observant” Argument
    16:37 Reason #3: God’s Veil
    18:59 Reason #4: God’s Sacrifices
    22:05 Two Hebrew Roots Arguments
    28:42 Reason #5: Circumcision
    31:43 Wrap it up, Professor

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  • @kareng3655
    @kareng3655 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    great teaching. I was getting "sucked into the Hebraic Roots ideas by a Messianic Teacher. He used scriptures to support his opionions and they seem to make perfect sense.He presents very strong arguments for following the laws of Moses. I watched a video on Hebrews 9 by the Professor Solberg and clearly showed me that we don't need to follow the laws of Moses. This whole do we need to keep the law of Moses has been going on for 2000 plus years. I think this Hebraic Roots movement is a very strong delusion in the church today and is gaining speed and confusing many Christians. Thanks Professor Solberg for these teachings.

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      God is good! Thanks, Karen.
      Blessings, Rob

  • @bornofJesusblood
    @bornofJesusblood 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Excellent teaching. Who could argue with that??? I am so grateful for the simplicity of Jesus. Thank you brother

    • @AlRay-qh2eb
      @AlRay-qh2eb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You wouldn't believe JESUS if you saw him infront of you

  • @brandnewchristian777
    @brandnewchristian777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    In my opinion, this is the best teaching you have done so far. It has systematically exposed the false teachings of this "movement" in a logical way. I know some will want to argue that with long drawn out essays that make no sense, then there are others who may have the veil finally lifted, so they can be set free from the spell they are under. May God help you! 🙏
    A note to those who disagree with me and can't wait to comment with a thousand word response. Please listen to the video again as it would be a better use of your time. Maybe hearing what Mr. Solberg has to say over and over again will help you to understand.

    • @sammygeiger3562
      @sammygeiger3562 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Agreed! Best one yet. For some reason this was just very simple and easy to understand. Love all his videos though, for some reason this one was much more clear!

    • @brandnewchristian777
      @brandnewchristian777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sammygeiger3562 Yes very easy to understand. God bless!

    • @lavieenrose5954
      @lavieenrose5954 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@brandnewchristian777
      God bless you and Merry Christmas 🎄 I totally agree with you ❤

    • @brandnewchristian777
      @brandnewchristian777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@lavieenrose5954 Merry Christmas to you as well!

    • @YahuahsMaidServant
      @YahuahsMaidServant 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lavieenrose5954 are you serious? Did you really just wish someone a merry Christmas... That unholy day is by far the biggest smack in our creators face! You really should read your entire Bible and not listen to the doctrine of man...

  • @The_verb_of_love
    @The_verb_of_love 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    When i was trying to follow Torah I couldn't focus on Christ. And I was constantly worried I wasn't really saved.

    • @bobreese4807
      @bobreese4807 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You don't know what "saved" means yet

    • @johnjones8112
      @johnjones8112 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@bobreese4807"work out your own salvation with fear and trembling"..... Christians: "I am saved and can disobey all I want because HE knows my heart."
      PS... David Wilbur is not a good representative of HIS remnant.

    • @nickylouse2
      @nickylouse2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@johnjones8112 if you are saved by your obedience, how much obedience is "good enough"? Do you see where that line of thinking must take us? There is no assurance that you can ever be obedient enough.
      My point is that only God can justify us, making it "just as if we had never sinned" as many people like to think of it. That must be true both before a point in time when faith is given by God to us and after. For if God is truly sovereign, He must have the sole prerogative to save whom He will at His own choosing. If He is not sovereign, specifically over whether we accept His gracious offer, then we slip into a philosophical argument of Pelagian, who argued that we are only "sin-sick" and not "dead in our sins".

    • @johnjones8112
      @johnjones8112 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@nickylouse2 repent >of what

    • @nickylouse2
      @nickylouse2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnjones8112 I can say "Amen". We should repent (of sin) as a matter of sanctification. And yes, absolutely, sin is the transgression of Torah and any other commandments given by Messiah. But as for whether our disobedience has any effect on our justification, it cannot - it MUST not. Otherwise, we are all still dead in our sins without any justification and the sacrifice by Yeshua was ineffective for anyone.

  • @williamdecamp7343
    @williamdecamp7343 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    You do an excellent job of teaching. Your videos helped me to leave Adventism, which is just like Hebrew Roots.

    • @Musicalpa
      @Musicalpa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      While Adventism has similarities to Hebrew Roots, it's absolutely not the same and is a flat out occult with their own false teacher with her own so called writings.
      I'm happy to hear you've left Adventism.
      However, I wish to encourage you to be very careful not to be deceived. Hebrew Roots too has drifted away from the truth, even to the point of denying the deity of the Messiah in some movements within Hebrew Roots.
      Personally, myself and those in the community I fellowship with refer to ourselves as Messianic solely because it mirrors much of what we believe. Messianic isn't part of the Hebrew Roots movements. However, when we describe ourselves, we simply say we are disciples of the Messiah, studying God's Word to know and live out God's Word just as it's written. If you'd like to learn more, an outstanding resource I would highly encourage you to check out is torahresource.com/
      I have found Lex Meyers to be quit good also on his TH-cam channel.
      Shalom

    • @odhiambokevine7843
      @odhiambokevine7843 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You're right.

    • @givethanks6714
      @givethanks6714 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah, there is some of the same bondage, but they argue very differently at some points.

    • @marybrosseuk2144
      @marybrosseuk2144 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      100%. I left Adventism before I found Dr. Solberg, but wow, has he helped me with the garbage that tries to raise its ugly head from time to time, left over from those teachings. His teaching is clear, and most importantly delivered with kindness and humility, and fully biblical.

  • @TheRevelationDeception
    @TheRevelationDeception 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Thank you for your body of work here brother. A brother I've known for over a decade has recently slipped into the ensnarement of Torahism. I attempted to share a TON of Scripture with him but he has taken an "ulterior spirit" 2C11.4. His name is David if you and anyone else reading this will pray for him. God bless!

    • @MaryShmee
      @MaryShmee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Please pray for my friend Rebecca R. whom has fallen for this deception also. I will pray for your Brother in Christ Jesus that he may break the bondage of this deceptive movement

    • @l1Experiment
      @l1Experiment 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yes I shall pray for David, and Rebecca R. ...

    • @lavieenrose5954
      @lavieenrose5954 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Prayers for David and Rebecca ❤

  • @joeyz5577
    @joeyz5577 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    This is exactly why I LOVE the Professor! Iron sharpens iron!

    • @tbishop4961
      @tbishop4961 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scented-leafpelargonium3366 it doesn't sharpen iron either🤦‍♂️😂

    • @tbishop4961
      @tbishop4961 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scented-leafpelargonium3366 😂😭

  • @katiec6828
    @katiec6828 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    My husband and I's best friends (a married couple) have fully embraced torah keeping. We were in the process of starting a new ministry together. It started with him just saying he wanted to eat biblically, observe the feasts and rest on Saturday. Him and his wife fought about it to the point of separation. My friend told me last week she 'has seen the light' and will start following the torah. She said she will hand over all the paperwork for our ministry. Its like a punch to the gut to have someone you are very close with (best of friends) tell you they can no longer be involved in ministry with you and don't know how to proceed as friends over this. They say we can't follow all of the torah and they're trying to 'figure out' which parts still apply to us today. When i ask questions and show them verse after verse they say they are still searching out the answers. Which tells me its something they've just decided is correct and will twist scripture to make it fit. The gospel is simple to understand. It doesn't take years of trying to figure it out. God doesn't want us confused! Thank you for the work you do. When i first heard about their beliefs, your videos really helped me to understand a lot. You really are doing the Lord's work. God bless you!

    • @salpezzino7803
      @salpezzino7803 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sorry However, God uses Cults to remove Goats from His Bride. Sad, but maybe a Blessing for you and your Ministry. Jesus will not lose His sheep, if they dont return, they were Never His

    • @bobreese4807
      @bobreese4807 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So define the gospel and what is its purpose?

    • @salpezzino7803
      @salpezzino7803 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bobreese4807 what is your point? Are you a Cultist? 1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.

    • @jamesbarksdale978
      @jamesbarksdale978 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It can be much like a cult.

  • @jeramilltua-requena1497
    @jeramilltua-requena1497 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    i love and admire the spirit of grace, truth, and humility as you speak about others even while disagreeing with them! truly this is the ".. fruit of the spirit" and the "...love, against which there is no law."

  • @cryptocuriouss
    @cryptocuriouss 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Bro - you’ve been cranking out the content and it’s awesome! Thank you. This is so valuable coming out of the Torah Observant movement.

    • @jacobstrouble4273
      @jacobstrouble4273 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Out of Torah and back to Rome and sun worship. Too bad.

    • @lavieenrose5954
      @lavieenrose5954 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jacobstrouble4273
      Out of Torah and back to Jesus Christ ❤

    • @jacobstrouble4273
      @jacobstrouble4273 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@lavieenrose5954 Yeshua taught the same Torah He gave Moses at Sinai and is authority over that covenant and the one he made with Abraham. Keep studying.

  • @kiruiandrew1
    @kiruiandrew1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    "If You love me, you keep my commandments"

    • @kingdomseekers1973
      @kingdomseekers1973 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He thinks commandments are traditional suggestions...

    • @maxmatlock1976
      @maxmatlock1976 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hes describing the book of Hebrews where Paul tells you what has changed !

    • @kingdomseekers1973
      @kingdomseekers1973 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@maxmatlock1976
      The mediator changed, not the law

    • @maxmatlock1976
      @maxmatlock1976 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kingdomseekers1973 you missspeak. Read it. He's moving us (his children) back to his original intention..the same one he had in exodus....that we ALL be a royal priesthood. While parts of the instructions(torah) have changed the part that will never change is the fact God wants His character to be displayed IN his children. We have to come out of Babylon in a full way! Leave all the pagan things and follow OUR KING who is the WORD OF GOD!

    • @rockblackwell7829
      @rockblackwell7829 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kingdomseekers1973It's not only that the mediator changed... ​
      11 Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? 12 For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily A CHANGE IN THE LAW as well. (Hebrews 7:11-12)

  • @pipinfresh
    @pipinfresh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Great work Solberg, I think this might be the best one yet! An interesting verse in Acts 21 that made me stop and reconsider Torah observance was this:
    ‭‭Acts‬ ‭21:25‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
    [25] But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written and decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.”
    This follows what James said to Paul about the accusations he was teaching Jews to forsake Moses. It's a clear juxtaposition, between the Jews and gentiles and what they are to observe. "they should observe no such thing".
    James is clearly saying that the gentiles don't need to observe the Torah like they had previously addressed in Acts 15.

    • @rayray4192
      @rayray4192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Good point. Anyone reading Acts 15 and 21 with no bias and preconceived notions can easily understand that being a new covenant new creation in Christ is nothing like being an escaped Hebrew slave under the yoke of bondage of all 613 Mosaic laws, which were a ministry of condemnation and death.

    • @astutik8909
      @astutik8909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Verse 25 comes from Moses laws. 🤔🤔😚

  • @DudeMaccabeus
    @DudeMaccabeus 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Following all the laws that apply from moses has been a blessing to me and my family

  • @patnoon1544
    @patnoon1544 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks Rob. Very good comparison that can only leave one with the fact that the Law cannot be followed and is not required to be followed. We can learn so much from the Torah, Psalms and the Prophets, but in the end Jesus told them in Luke 24:44 that they basically pointed to and confirmed Him as Messiah. So many wonderful pictures of Messiah in the Old Testament. But He in His loving kindness towards us has provided a new and better covenant. Shalom

  • @VictorResto.
    @VictorResto. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really like that you stick to scripture brother. You don’t reinforce your conclusions by giving opinions of other men saying that other scholars agree with this teaching. You allow the spirit to guide you in your teaching and the us the viewers has to go to the Bible and look for ourselves if we want to doubt what you say. May the Holy Spirit guide us unto all truth. This year has been deep study on this topic of law keeping.

  • @heather602
    @heather602 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Misunderstanding in spiritual warfare is not always a failure on the one teaching. Often its a refusal to see, or a rebellion against the truth. Stiffening one's neck.
    Jesus never erred in His teachings, yet the pharisees continued in their stubbornness.
    Today, if you hear his voice, harden not your hearts like in the day of provocation.

    • @rayray4192
      @rayray4192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rob is being humble and gracious. Wilbur is a spiritually dead heretic. He’s a deluded biblical fool.

    • @bornofJesusblood
      @bornofJesusblood 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well said

    • @adamguy33
      @adamguy33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The key to understanding the relationship between the Christian and the Law is knowing that the Old Testament law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians. Some of the laws were to reveal to the Israelites how to obey and please God (the Ten Commandments, for example). Some of the laws were to show the Israelites how to worship God and atone for sin (the sacrificial system). Some of the laws were intended to make the Israelites distinct from other nations (the food and clothing rules). None of the Old Testament law is binding on Christians today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).
      In place of the Old Testament law, Christians are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind…and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us: “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:40). Now, this does not mean the Old Testament law is irrelevant today. Many of the commands in the Old Testament law fall into the categories of “loving God” and “loving your neighbor.” The Old Testament law can be a good guidepost for knowing how to love God and knowing what goes into loving your neighbor. At the same time, to say that the Old Testament law applies to Christians today is incorrect. The Old Testament law is a unit (James 2:10). Either all of it applies, or none of it applies. If Christ fulfilled some of it, such as the sacrificial system, He fulfilled all of it.
      “This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God, we will not be worshiping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them. The purpose of the Old Testament law is to convict people of our inability to keep the law and point us to our need for Jesus Christ as Savior (Romans 7:7-9; Galatians 3:24). The Old Testament law was never intended by God to be the universal law for all people for all of time. We are to love God and love our neighbors. If we obey those two commands faithfully, we will be upholding all that God requires of us.

    • @rayray4192
      @rayray4192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@adamguy33 I read your long post, and gave you a thumbs up. You made one small mistake that makes a big difference. The Law of Christ is to love as Christ loved. An infinitely higher standard than loving another as yourself. Humans don’t love themselves perfectly. It’s sacrificial love. If an act doesn’t cost you something it’s most likely not a choice for love. Love is a choice for the highest good. God has given his body of believers an impossible law to keep. Hebrew roots heretics lose their mind when you inform them it’s impossible to keep the Law of Christ. Their broken cultic minds are obsessed with laws. They think they are obeying God and pleasing God. God loathes pompous Pharisees. The obedience God looks for is obedience to the pure gospel message given to the apostles. Obedience by practicing faith in the complete and final atonement of Christ. Believing the gospel message is not advice; it’s a command. Hebrew roots heretics rebel against the gospel and practicing faith which makes a man justified and righteous. The wannabe Jews are self righteous Pharisees who have fallen from grace. They are not “ In Christ.”

  • @heather602
    @heather602 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Good point about the Levites. Also worth noting that the priesthood itself has changed. Jesus is from the order of Melchizedek.

    • @kimartist
      @kimartist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Which is VERY clearly stated in Hebrews. Hebrews is an eminently foundational book for Christian doctrine & yet is almost universally neglected when it comes to "new member" teachings & teaching sermons in general.

    • @rayray4192
      @rayray4192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kimartistgood point. The key passage is Hebrews 7:11-12. “ Now if perfection were attainable through the Levitical priesthood ( for through it the people received the law), what need would there have been for another priest to arise from the order of Melchizedek rather than the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood is changed the law is necessarily changed.” Come on! How can a man who can read with comprehension deny this passage of holy writ teaches a new and different law for new covenant new creations in Christ? And not only a new law, but an entirely new and better way to relate to God. I can explain because I was cursed to grow up in the home of a 1%er pioneer Adventist health evangelist. Adventist cultists use their health message as a lure to capture naive people who God loves. Paul uses the word “ bewitched.” The word means to be persuaded by false representations. Wilbur is deluded, confused, and bewitched. No amount of facts, excellent presentations, or Bible verses in context will convince him he’s wrong. In fact, he had been trained to view Rob Solberg as an enemy of God and truth. It’s called cultic behavior.

    • @theeternalsbeliever1779
      @theeternalsbeliever1779 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The fact that the priesthood changed doesn't mean the Law changed or that it was abolished.

    • @Gigi2four
      @Gigi2four 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@theeternalsbeliever1779Hebrews 7:12 “for when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of the law also “.

    • @Wisdoms_Inheritance
      @Wisdoms_Inheritance 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The priesthood didn't change, it transferred along with the law, the words "changed" and "change" in Hebrews 7:12 means to transfer, transposition or transferral, it doesn't mean made different like you see in other passages, we need to study our bibles better before throwing out bible verses and misusing them, the law never changed.

  • @user-gk3yb6zp4i
    @user-gk3yb6zp4i 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can you not see that the Law is made more full, more complete, more amazing. I can do the feasts in my own home, since I am the temple. Thank you Yeshua, for not abolishing the Torah, but for making making it more full.

    • @jefb2361
      @jefb2361 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Law brings wrath, exposes our sin. But THANK YOU JESUS for your atoning work at the cross!
      No circumcision or animal sacrifices necessary! More than a jot or tittle I'd say, God bless you.

  • @jesus_our_priestking
    @jesus_our_priestking 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank You Prof. Solberg for this sound teaching.

  • @larry7781
    @larry7781 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just want to say I already knew what you were teaching today but the way you teach doesn't only put it in our head it brings it down to our hearts I thank God for that

  • @User_at_777
    @User_at_777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The Apostles went to the Temple to preach and make converts, since that's where the unbelieving Israelites were gathered. They were beaten, thrown out and threatened with death (in Stephen's case he was killed). They weren't "worshiping" or following the Law.

    • @salpezzino7803
      @salpezzino7803 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amen, Acts 14:19 But Jews came from Antioch and Iconium, and having persuaded the crowds, they stoned Paul and dragged him out of the city, supposing that he was dead. -- 1 chapter before Torahism Cultist teaches in 15 that Paul and the Apostles were sending Unclean Gentiles to a Jewish synagogue. BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

    • @arlindodossantos2305
      @arlindodossantos2305 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They were actually going to synagogue but Paul was arrested in the Temple, and professing that he was still a Jew!

  • @nancywhitehead219
    @nancywhitehead219 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not just believers in Jesus but "And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." Mark 16:15-16

  • @1954mill
    @1954mill 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What a wonderful instructor of the Word you are Brother Rob!

  • @larrytruelove8659
    @larrytruelove8659 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It’s my belief that old covenant ended with finality in 70 AD. The old covenant was fading away, on the way out, from the time of Christ until 70 AD.
    Hebrews 8:13, fading away. What do you think?

    • @beckyfrechette4439
      @beckyfrechette4439 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep!

    • @lavieenrose5954
      @lavieenrose5954 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For sure 💯

    • @Animalsandwildlife.7527
      @Animalsandwildlife.7527 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Read Matthew 24: 19- 20 where jesus is teaching his disciples about the signs of the endtimes and his second coming and refers to the sabbath. Ask yourself why he brings the sabbath up during the endtimes if he didn't expect us o keep it once he died on the cross? The 10 commandments is the law of God and needs to be obeyed.
      The Sabbath was kept faithful until 341 AD when it was changed by the council of Leodocia. That is 300 years after Jesus had gone back to heaven.The laws of moses (603 laws) were the ones jesus nailed on the cross. There were 7 sabbath festivals that were 7 days long each which involved offering of animals sacrifices and drinking. Those sabbaths are the ones Paul is referring to in colossians 2:14- 17. There is a difference between the weekly sabbath ( tied to creation) which is part of the 10 commandments and the sabbaths (plural) which are the seven ceremonial ceremonies that took place throughout the year and each lasted for 7 consecutive days.

  • @WeThePeople9069
    @WeThePeople9069 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keep up the good work brother 🙏 many just dont see it 😞 i try to help people on FB but thier just not having it, all we can do is pray and keep showing them the truth

  • @EnHacore1
    @EnHacore1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for the detailed explanation, the drawings are very helpful, please continue to use charts or drawings

  • @kingdomseekers1973
    @kingdomseekers1973 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    2:45
    "As I always say, those traditions are permitted by followers of Jesus, but they're not required"
    Right there, he admits that he doesn't understand our side (the Torah Observant side) nor does he understand the Tanakh (Torah and Prophets), for he calls the ten commandments "traditions"...it's not a tradition its a commandment... washing your hands before eating a meal is a Jewish tradition, not using certain combs on shabbat is a tradition...but the sabbath in general, is a law, not tradition.

  • @waynehobbs5175
    @waynehobbs5175 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Professor, you have explained this immaculately. You have used scripture to prove how the new Covenant has achieved the necessary obsolescence of the old Covenant to be effectual.
    That X not equal to not X is brilliant.
    It's like you must only use only your right hand can never equal you must use only your left hand.
    God continue to bless your ministry in the name of Christ. amen.

  • @jimijames7703
    @jimijames7703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    This is useful for Seventh Day Adventists.
    They are very similar.

    • @larrytruelove8659
      @larrytruelove8659 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      SDA’s make similar arguments that David does.

    • @rayray4192
      @rayray4192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Adventists are wannabe Jews captured by a religious cult. Indoctrinated, deluded, and bewitched for one ultimate reason- Adventists are running a business and they want your money.

    • @joshuamelton9148
      @joshuamelton9148 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's because Hebrew roots movement has its origin from 7th day Adventist and the Millerites of the 19th Century.

    • @larrytruelove8659
      @larrytruelove8659 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@joshuamelton9148
      I see. But what about the black Hebrew Israelite movement? One of them debated James White and the guy made all kinds of claims about the Masoretic Hebrew text. Apparently he thought their Hebrew dialect was the correct one. Naturally this guy lacked education and any kind of coherent thought. The sabbath was not the primary thing but they believed in the sabbath. He did know quite a number of Hebrew words.

    • @joshuamelton9148
      @joshuamelton9148 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@larrytruelove8659 The Black Hebrew Israelites movement also goes back to the 19th century with people like William Crowley.
      Their history is diverse. The most vocal ones that you see today on the streets and online has its origin in the 1960s in Harlem the One West School and all of its sects that had their own schism.

  • @anaflores5200
    @anaflores5200 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are a blessing, thank you for bringing clarity.

  • @michaelbrutsche75
    @michaelbrutsche75 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Law and the Gospel have met together and kissed at the cross Ps 85:10. We cannot keep the law without the gospel and be saved, and we cannot keep the gospel without the law and be saved, we cannot have one without the other and be saved.

    • @soybeanfarmer4576
      @soybeanfarmer4576 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You never keep the Torah for salvation. You keep the Torah because you love Him.

  • @digimike8
    @digimike8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    One of the biggest theological mistakes I see Torahism make in this argument is that they equate the 100's years of the Hebrew captivity and its lack of a physical temple with today’s lack of a physical temple. They argue it’s happened before. They leave out and miss the fact that Jesus Messiah has now lived, sacrificed his blood and ascended into Heaven. The entirety of the law and prophets pointed to Jesus. Something monumental happened in Christian theology, a New and better Covenant. I also view the Temple from another point of view. The temple just wasn’t needed. In the New Covenant the Levitical priesthood has no authority from God. All authority is in Jesus our High Priest, in the order of Melchizedek. The destruction of the temple didn’t end the Levitical Priesthood, rather it was removed because the priests no longer had authority and the activities in and of the temple were no longer needed, much less required.

    • @User_at_777
      @User_at_777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Amen!

    • @nickylouse2
      @nickylouse2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it is not too much trouble, since your argument is indeed paramount if accurate, can you take the time to flesh out from Scripture exactly why you assert that the Levitical priesthood no longer has authority? I might ask that you focus on one idea in particular and that being: did the Levitical priesthood ever rectify the problem of sin? And if I seem to be misunderstanding why you say that, please offer me reasons that you have said it.

    • @jacobstrouble4273
      @jacobstrouble4273 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Incomplete hypothesis. It's the takkanot or 613 of the talmudic rabbis and the sacrificial system un necessary today. The Melkezedek part is correct but that is connected to the Royal Law or covenant agreed to prior to what was given and broken at Sinai. That's why the Aaronic line was given authority and why John the baptist relinquished at Yeshuas baptizm. Which returned complete authority to Messiah and restored His covenant made with Abraham , Isaac and Jacob. Otherwise the covenants of promise wouldn't be all over the new covenant scriptures. Walk as Yeshua walked. Paul and all the gentile assemblies he ministered to did including sabbath, high sabbath of feasts and dietary regs. So if what you claim is correct Paul never got the memo. You contradiction to work out. Good luck brother and be blessed.

    • @digimike8
      @digimike8 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jacobstrouble4273 but then how do you interpret Paul saying he is gentile with them and acts Jewish with the Jews?

    • @nickylouse2
      @nickylouse2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@digimike8in the same way Jesus was a Samaritan as He was a Jew. Paul’s approach TO the gentiles was different than his approach to Jews with respect to proclaiming the gospel. He did not change his behavior towards God. It would have been hypocritical. In fact, he chastised the brothers in Galatians 2:12 who had not yet learned from the vision of Peter concerning Cornelius.

  • @pollyandkendarrell8909
    @pollyandkendarrell8909 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great teaching ...brings joy anfd peace to my heart ❤❤

  • @patriciaorourke8850
    @patriciaorourke8850 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s so simple I really don’t know how anyone can miss it. Thanks

  • @makenoimage
    @makenoimage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As if His gospel was contrary His Law..."live as He lived" and "love as He loved" and you too will follow Him His way...as ONE bride obedient to His ONE Law

  • @JacobGarciaMusic
    @JacobGarciaMusic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent explanation, thank you for your ministry.

  • @toreykrieger4427
    @toreykrieger4427 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really good stuff. Thank you. Excellent job explaining.

  • @mikhailmarvin2188
    @mikhailmarvin2188 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for your job! God bless you!

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you so much, Mikhail! Your support means a lot to me!
      Blessings, brother.
      Rob

  • @janakeil4637
    @janakeil4637 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Such great teaching. Thank you for very clear instruction.
    My HR loved ones will debate validity of modern Bible and Paul's teachings. They truly believe that modern church and Christians have misled them and that only ancient documents and maps are trustworthy. Have you encountered that belief as well?

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Hi, Jana. Yes, I run into that belief a lot. And my typical response when our Hebrew Roots friends want to cast doubt on Paul is to ask if they are suggesting that Paul's writings should be removed from the Bible. Because if that's what they believe, they are putting themselves in a position of authority over Scripture. And if they only accept the things in the Bible that they like, and reject the things they don't, it's not the Bible they believe but themselves.
      On the other hand, if they _do_ accept Paul's writings as Scripture, then they need to accept the things Paul teaches as the true Word of God. Which means they've got a significant uphill battle if they want to claim that the Old Covenant laws are still in effect today!
      Blessings, Rob

    • @robertcain3426
      @robertcain3426 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. Great teaching.
      If I may put forward my understanding on the matter of Christian traditions which have been handed down are unscriptual in that they do not conform to the true meaning of the apostle's teaching.
      Christendom is not the church. The church is the body of beluevers, the body of Christ.
      On the other hand, Christendom is the progeny of the Roman prostitute and still walks after her ways. The true church which is the body of Christ did not fight wars for the dominion, power and wealth of this world. Christendom did and still tries to do politically.
      Christendom belongs to Babylon, the great house of religion that was Babel/Babylon. Housing all the religions of the world.
      Christendom still holds captive his holy people, just as the type and shadow of Nebuchaddnezzar's Babylon held captive God's people Israel. I began to receive these revelations 20 years ago, to realise that Luther had similar teachings. Only Luther attributed Babylin, the harlot, solely to the Catholic Church. And, indeed, she is the mother. And her children have followed after her ways.
      From the false Roman church came all manner of pagan superstitions clothed in Christian attire. It is from her that came church buildings as temples, when believers are the temple of God in the NT.
      From her came alters, when the one sacrifice fir all time has already been made.
      From her came priests, when e ery believer is a priest before God, the veil having been ripped apart by Christ's atoning work on the cross, and believers boldly come into the most holy place before the throne of God. And the Catholic priests became Ministers/Reverend etc, in the Protestant church; we don't need ministers to serve in the tabernacle since we have our high priest Jesus. From Ministers/Reverend etc, came the modern day Pastor, who still ministers to the people. This is not at all the pattern set by the apostles, where the gifts to the body were to operate, ministering to one another, bringing firth from their gift as the Spirit led, for/to the building up of the body, the church, to the maturity of the fullness of Christ.
      I could say much, much, more. But I won't and I appreciate it if you have read this far. Cheers

  • @Charlie-kit
    @Charlie-kit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing teaching! I’m so glad I found someone who teaches what I believe in

  • @debbiewoznicki2419
    @debbiewoznicki2419 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this teacher! He is very polite and explains his points so well.

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, Debbie!
      Blessings, Rob

    • @GatheringJacob
      @GatheringJacob 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is polite, I appreciate that also. The problem is, his “points” are incorrect.

  • @kingdomseekers1973
    @kingdomseekers1973 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There was a sabbath long before any Levite existed. You don't need a temple or be part of the Levitical priesthood to keep the sabbath.

    • @sundayciscero
      @sundayciscero 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That’s fine brother, keeping the sabbath is fine, but to say someone is sinning or damned for not keeping it, (including yourself) is wrong and not biblical. It’s about your intent with doing things of the Law. If you’re doing it to justify yourself, you’re missing it

  • @terrioliver6041
    @terrioliver6041 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My sister has slipped into Torah also. For the last 6 years following it.. she is following both, and I feel she is totally confused, and she is not an Israeli she is an American. It breaks my heart the Rabbi she is studying under she is even learning Hebrew, which I feel is awesome learning any new language. She is always trying to convince me of the why. She says the bible is not totally true, and that's why she is studying Hebrew to learn the truth.. I said I believe it's 100 percent the truth. I got a copy of her Jewish bible they read almost identical other than using Jewish names like Yeshua and God's Jewish names." I kept bringing up the New Testament and Jesus fulfilling the law to her reading it from her Jewish bible... I feel Satan has us at each other. Until I have finally just let it go, and given it to our Lord, and I pray that Jesus would help her see the truth. It breaks my heart. She wants so much to please God that she has a good heart.
    It's a hard place to be trying to be a Jew when she is an American born she is so confused. And yes, I have gone over all this with her that you are teaching and have been praying and was so very happy to see this and listen to your study which is exactly the way we were both raised to believe. I was beginning to have doubts myself after her constance over and over again, telling me about her belief and lifestyle change. So thanks a million Mr. Solberg, an answer prayer for me to stay in God's Holy Word and keep the faith, and continue to pray for my sister and her husband to see the truth. For Jesus', Truth is the truest form of freedom in all things great and small. Her husband was not raised in church but is now following her new belief the last 4 years. My heart is breaking for so many in the world that are lost and confused. I feel for and pray for all the ones teaching and misleading the Word of God. They will be held accountable to Him.
    PS Im not meaning to refer to the Rabbi teaching. It's here in American and around the world are alot of false teaching it just breaks my heart.
    Peace to all

  • @freyaaldrnari6086
    @freyaaldrnari6086 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for this.

  • @nickylouse2
    @nickylouse2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @34:40 the topic of circumcision was spoken of as though it had something to do with justification, but Paul clearly explained in Galatians 5:4 that this was a matter of Judaizers trying to force circumcision upon believers in order to be justified. We all know that we are justified by faith. The major reason for Paul's writing to Galatians was to dispel the idea of being JUSTIFIED by any means other than faith. So once again, a strawman has been set up since Paul was not talking about sanctification through obedience.

    • @robertcain3426
      @robertcain3426 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Obedience to the Spirit, yes.

  • @user-cb8dd3rc9z
    @user-cb8dd3rc9z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just wrote a paper about the priesthood of believers a couple of weeks ago. Lovely stuff

  • @ashersian2563
    @ashersian2563 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Once you understand the distinction between the decalogue and the ceremonial laws, then apply to your study and you will understand better

  • @studywithmefolks5809
    @studywithmefolks5809 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This dude is pretty slick. He makes it seem like Paul was trying to only have the sacrifices done for the other dudes. But Paul was doing it with them and it says make and offering for each. This would include Paul. Notice how he leaves that our when explaining. Whether or not Paul did, he intended to.

    • @arlindodossantos2305
      @arlindodossantos2305 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes Paul was arrested in the Temple not Synagogue. Kept the Nazarite vow before that and even say let us keep the feast.

  • @littleshrederdude
    @littleshrederdude 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looking forward to David’s response. Grateful for both of these men, as it’s deepened/widened my understanding of God’s grace AND His relevant, loving instructions (Torah) for us.

    • @adamguy33
      @adamguy33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The key to understanding the relationship between the Christian and the Law is knowing that the Old Testament law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians. Some of the laws were to reveal to the Israelites how to obey and please God (the Ten Commandments, for example). Some of the laws were to show the Israelites how to worship God and atone for sin (the sacrificial system). Some of the laws were intended to make the Israelites distinct from other nations (the food and clothing rules). None of the Old Testament law is binding on Christians today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).
      In place of the Old Testament law, Christians are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind…and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us: “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:40). Now, this does not mean the Old Testament law is irrelevant today. Many of the commands in the Old Testament law fall into the categories of “loving God” and “loving your neighbor.” The Old Testament law can be a good guidepost for knowing how to love God and knowing what goes into loving your neighbor. At the same time, to say that the Old Testament law applies to Christians today is incorrect. The Old Testament law is a unit (James 2:10). Either all of it applies, or none of it applies. If Christ fulfilled some of it, such as the sacrificial system, He fulfilled all of it.
      “This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God, we will not be worshiping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them. The purpose of the Old Testament law is to convict people of our inability to keep the law and point us to our need for Jesus Christ as Savior (Romans 7:7-9; Galatians 3:24). The Old Testament law was never intended by God to be the universal law for all people for all of time. We are to love God and love our neighbors. If we obey those two commands faithfully, we will be upholding all that God requires of us.

  • @robinanderson6893
    @robinanderson6893 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much, Robin! We are so grateful for your support.
      Blessings, Rob

  • @Animalsandwildlife.7527
    @Animalsandwildlife.7527 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why did jesus teach us about the 10 commandments and specifically how to keep the sabbath day holy?
    What is your interpretation of Matthew 24: 19-20 when jesus is referring to the endtimes suffering and the sabbath day?

  • @OneSparrow-76
    @OneSparrow-76 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Clear, concise, Truth in Love

  • @ashersian2563
    @ashersian2563 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mr soberg you are right that the ceremonial laws including sanctuary related matters like priesthood and sacrificial system are all done away with. All of which have been fulfil in Christ.
    But the decalogue distinct from the ceremonial laws. Jesus magnified the Decalogue. Matt 5. Not the cereminial laws. Hebrews 8. James 2. 1 John 2:3-4, John 14:15
    I hope we can correspond
    The decalogue is never in contradition with the Gospel

  • @user-ui9uj6jg4y
    @user-ui9uj6jg4y 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting, question: what happens in the latter days (Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3) when GOD opens up His house and the law is taught will Levits or gentiles minister, if any, in the house, and will certain parts of the law not be taught?

  • @PavelMosko
    @PavelMosko 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I figured I would elaborate more on occasionally sharing your videos with former Adventists etc. The basic gist is familiar to stuff is the same or similar, but there are some specific details that are important. As a Faith SDA is very sloppy on a lot of things, like Church history, the details of doctrine, having a coherent position on something. But they do nitpick the details on some things relating to the Old Testament law, rituals etc. This is because they believe that Christ is acting like a kind of Cohen/high priest in heaven right now, blotting out people's specific sins that are confessed but leaving the other ones that have not been confessed to be judged at the end of the World. (Called the Investigative Judgement).
    Anyway, some of the specific points you raise are helpful to folks that want to raise their game overall. It kind of reminds me of my favorite web site & TH-cam channel dealing with Seventh Day Adventism, called Answering Adventism that is very educational in general. That has been extremely useful for dealing with online Adventists but also given me some good gold nuggets for my other online theology writing and posting.

  • @radostinvasilev599
    @radostinvasilev599 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rob, I can explain it to you. The salvation by grace doesn't not make the law is not required. For example, if the judje forgive you your breaches of the law without reason, just because he loves you, that doesn't mean that he gives you a permanent permit to continue breacging the law or that he says no more law for everyone. No, he forgives you the penalty, but requires from you to continue keeping the law.

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Gal. 5:13-14)

    • @radostinvasilev599
      @radostinvasilev599 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheBiblicalRoots For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.
      12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.
      Psalms 103

    • @soybeanfarmer4576
      @soybeanfarmer4576 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheBiblicalRoots The commandment of Love your neighbor as yourself (Lev 19:18) is a sub heading. Without the Torah you would have no way of instruction on how to do this. The Tablets of stone included the Torah. Written on front and back.

  • @thomasprice1320
    @thomasprice1320 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    No!! The Torah and grace cannot be separated. They go hand in hand. Isaiah 8:20 testifies.
    " To the law ( Torah) and the testimony of it ( Messiah ) if they speak not according to this, there is NO LIGHT in them." Torah PLUS grace is the truth.

  • @givethanks6714
    @givethanks6714 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great teaching! Hopefully some will gain understanding.
    I would in Love, advice to cut your hair. You may look at 1 Cor 11 differently, but if not for something else, to not be a stumbling block. Longer hair on men will hinder some to listen on you and learn more.
    Thanks for the good video :)

  • @Yeshuite
    @Yeshuite 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking for a solid biblical reading plan. Can anyone recommend one?

    • @jacobstrouble4273
      @jacobstrouble4273 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      back to the Melkezedek future by Dr David Perry.

  • @John3.36
    @John3.36 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Judiazers
    IMPLA'CABLE, adjective [French from Latin implacabilis; in and placabilis, from placo, to appease.]
    1. Not to be appeased; that can not be pacified and rendered peaceable; inexorable; stubborn or constant in enmity; as an implacable prince.
    2. Not to be appeased or subdued; as implacable anger; implacable enmity, malice or revenge.

  • @radostinvasilev599
    @radostinvasilev599 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Human body is a physical temple. So you follow both Jesus and Moses.

  • @russmaples5351
    @russmaples5351 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mr Solberg, you said something about one function of the Mosaic law being to witness against our sin. How do you define sin in that context if the law is not something we should follow?
    I do very much disagree with your perspective here and think that much of your argument is kind of circular (in the way you often interpret Scripture based upon the conclusion you have come to and then use that interpretation to support your conclusion), but I'm not asking this to fight or trap you with some kind of perceived 'gotcha'. I'm sure you have a well-considered explanation. I am just wondering how you would explain the issue, so I can more fully understand your position and perspective.

  • @lesliemagby8445
    @lesliemagby8445 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And that means we no longer need to meet in a church or pay tithing to a congregation. Each of us can just worship at home.

    • @EnHacore1
      @EnHacore1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Actually you need to meet with other Christians regularly, that is what the early church did. It is true that they were meeting in houses because they did not have churches yet, but eventually they built churches to make it easier to meet. You cannot be a lone Christian, you have to have fellowship with others, it is all over in the New Testament

    • @graftme3168
      @graftme3168 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@EnHacore1 You can be a lone Christian, but I think it stunts growth and it forsakes others the benefit of having your fellowship. Fellowship was considered the most important reason for assembling together. Most people don't seem to know that though. I always hear people say they go to church for themselves, not for other people. Which is unbiblical. It's hard to find a biblical church these days though.

    • @ZachFish-
      @ZachFish- 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just don’t see this standpoint as one that comes from a faithful heart.

  • @PavelMosko
    @PavelMosko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think a Facebook group of Ex Seventh Day Adventists I belong too will probably like this so will probably post a link. Not an Ex Adventist myself but a guy who argues them and my postings triggered my Messianic rabbi friend and made me realize he is a Torahist.

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would be really interested in what they would have to say about this, Pavel, Thanks!
      Rob

    • @marybrosseuk2144
      @marybrosseuk2144 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I found these videos from an ex SDA site. Someone posted a link, and I have been watching them ever since. I have found the Bible studies here very, very helpful.

    • @PavelMosko
      @PavelMosko 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheBiblicalRoots The former SDA folks like it. Of course this sort of thing, usually isn't news to them it often is very similar to the arguments they make to their own folks' leftover in the Church/cult. The biggest reaction, I get comes from my Messianic rabbi friend who tends to react not just to the stuff I post on my Facebook wall but tries to argue with the things I share in groups designed for former Seventh Day Adventists or are meant to be polemical against Ellen White and the teachings of Seventh Day Adventism.

  • @user-rl9zh3td9f
    @user-rl9zh3td9f 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Revelation 14:12 (KJV) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND THE FAITH OF JESUS.
    Revelation 12:17 (KJV) And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND HAVE THE TESTIMONY TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST.
    Matthew 19:16-17 (KJV) And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
    And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if THOU WILT COME INTO LIFE, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.

  • @Oversite869
    @Oversite869 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    613 Commandments of the Law.
    Only 1 judgement fulfills all commands which would subsequently nullify judgements.
    “I Love You no Matter what”
    IS the Gospel of Jesus.
    God IS Love itself.
    The Law of Moses can’t possibly be fulfilled without unjudgemental Love, which is the greatest atonement of sin.

    • @Oversite869
      @Oversite869 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gotta understand that being judgemental toward fellow man equates one to God.
      But Loving no matter what,
      fulfills Gods image in man,
      and would’ve prevented any sin or judgment from ever occurring in the first place.
      Peep what Moses said to God after Israel made the golden calf.
      He pulled a Jesus before Jesus and put the whole nation of Israel before himself.
      Whereas Jesus put ALL of humanity before Himself.

    • @Oversite869
      @Oversite869 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Law of Moses is the wisdom and Knowledge of Good and Evil.
      It brings about judgmentality and Death.
      The Gospel of Jesus is the Tree of Life.
      I Love You no matter what is the mentality of Eternity and Jesus Christ Himself.

    • @Oversite869
      @Oversite869 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YY-jv4uu yeah, The Law makes Love a command, which is why God said it is flawed.
      Commanding rebels never works.
      Commands cannot be fulfilled by commands, only a judge can fulfill commands.
      Which is why God is judge.
      And John said God is Love.
      Jesus revealed that Love is the judgement that reins supreme to all commands.
      If our own judgement is Love, the Law is fulfilled.

  • @michaelmacias8
    @michaelmacias8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even though Christ is of the tribe of Judah the reason why his priesthood is superior to the Levi priesthood is because His priesthood precedes the levitical one. He is the last of the Melchizedek priesthood.

  • @jamesbarksdale978
    @jamesbarksdale978 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is what Paul is addressing in Galatians.
    Many within the Hebrew Roots movement and Messianic Judaism are little more than modern day Judaizers.
    It's interesting how the old heresies keep getting repackaged for a new generation.

  • @bobreese4807
    @bobreese4807 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most Christians don't even know what gospel, grace and saved means.

  • @rororoFGC
    @rororoFGC 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey! Great video as always. I found the box explanation very helpful and I believe it is clear regarding the priesthood, temple, veil/sacrifices/circuncision.
    What about the decalog to be specific? I understand that some people like to devide the law in different parts (moral, cerimonial and civil). I can see your explanation being clear regarding the cerimonial and civil part.
    I don't see this division in the law being the understanding of the ancient jew and apostoles but how do I understand the Decalog in this video?
    Maybe the decalog is like the "first amendment" of the ancient israel constitution? In that case it is also not binding today and instead we have now the law of Jesus?
    Is that correct?

  • @ivovanerp7608
    @ivovanerp7608 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seems like the biggest issue with this video is that you say that the viewer needs to choose between the new covenant and the old one. That doesn’t make much sense because we have to observe both, meaning there is only one covenant that Jesus taught and fulfilled to a completed form. So then if any “contradiction” appears after Jesus’ teachings in light of the New Testament the question is not which one do you choose but can the seeming “contradiction” be reconciled by letting the Bible interpret the Bible. I am not a Torah observer, I am in the middle trying to figure this things out about who is right and asking for the Holy Spirit to guide me in all truth but the arguments you raise are quite easily countered if you watch any of teachings of the people you are responding to such as David or 119 ministries.
    However, I will point out 2 interesting observations for the readers of this post.
    1. 119 ministries is constantly flashing their Masonic handsymbols such as the upside down pyramid especially in their earlier videos. So even though their arguments seems extremely strong they are part of an agenda that is involved in some kind of deception. I just haven’t figured out what exactly yet.
    2. The fact that you call yourself a professor and put your diploma in the background in some videos, wear a 3 pcs suit etc is also a tactic I see teachers like yourself use which means you are trying to leverage that “authority” against the viewer. Opposite of what 119 ministries does.
    Edit: just saw a video of you throwing the same Masonic hand symbols. Nicely tried but now we know both of you are on the same team.
    Only Elohim our ABBA Father knows which one of you is right but I suspect both of you are off.

  • @notusedexer
    @notusedexer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The problem is they don't believe Paul.

  • @blackknight20010
    @blackknight20010 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could I please talk with you brother?

  • @KenPeters-sr1125
    @KenPeters-sr1125 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Concerning sacrifices, the reason sacrifices needed too be repeated was because a blood sacrifice was needed to cleanse a person from their sin, to mitigate the sins that had been written on the tables of their heart (Jeremiah 17:1). God remembered sins by writing them on the tables of their heart, their account.
    Jesus' sacrifice did the same thing, but the difference was that the sacrifice did not need to be repeated because God would remember their sin no more. The account no longer needed to be cleansed because sins were no longer written there.
    It is the content (logōn) of the account (logon) that determines if we are justified or condemned. Justification is not the absence of sin but the presence of righteousness. The Greek words for righteousness and justify are almost identical. Branches that do not bear fruit are cut off.
    Those who were saved in the Old Testament did not need repeated sacrifices because they were taken out from under the law, for where there is no law, sins are no longer imputed (remembered in the account (Gr. logon).
    Romans 7:1 the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth. To get out from under the law, you need to die - baptism qualifies as a shadow of death. Joseph was saved when his brothers slew the kid and dipped his coat in the blood. Then they threw him into the pit - his shadow of death. And God was with him. No further sacrifices were needed for Joseph. Jesus' sacrifice was better because it could be applied once for all people. By being born into the kingdom of God, with Jesus as your Father, you join the house of Judah. A sacrifice was never applied to future sin. His sacrifice for us is sufficient because sins arer remembered no more. Under the New Covenant, we are under grace, not the law. We are still held accountable under grace. The New Covenant is the ministry of life, where the ministry of Moses was the ministry of death 2 Corinthians 3.
    Under the law of Moses, there are no entries of righteousness in our account for obedience, only entries for violations. Look at the last five of the Ten Commandments to understand what it means to love your neighbor to the full extent of the law. I won't kill you, I won't commit adultery with or against you, I won't steal from you, I won't bear false witness against you, and I won't covent anything you have. There, I have loved you to the full extent of the law and I intend to keep it that way. Don't you feel cherished? Of course not. If I were to violate any, however, I would get dinged.
    The law of the Spirit of life is the New Commandment, where I love you as he has loved me, in the power of the Spirit. The law of Moses included everything but the Spirit: all your heart, all your soul, all your mind, all your strength, all you, no Spirit. All you and no Spirit is separation from God: death. You with the Spirit is union with God: life.
    You do not need to be baptized to be saved, but you do need to die to get out from under the law. I highly recommend baptism over the approach the thief on the cross took.
    And here is how you can tell if you are really interested in the truth: while you were reading this, were you looking for rebuttals? Or were you seeking to understand?
    Looking for rebuttals is like pouring new wine into old wineskins. grace-4-grace.com

  • @salpezzino7803
    @salpezzino7803 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Rob no matter how hard you try not to, you still bring out the CrAzIeS. Another Great Job rebuking Evil. After each teaching I figured this one did it, however, no. This one should be you last - You Nailed It ...................................

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hey, Sal! If Torahism was solely based on intellectual reasoning, that might be true. But sadly, it has a whole lot more to do with emotional/psychological commitments and issues of identity. And I believe Spiritual warfare plays a major role, as well. At the end of the day, although my work is not as important or impactful as Mother Teresa, I take great comfort in her famous words: "'God has not called me to be successful; He has called me to be faithful."
      Blessings, Rob

    • @theeternalsbeliever1779
      @theeternalsbeliever1779 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If believing Christ's words in Jhn 14:15 makes me a "crazy", then fit me for a straight jacket. I'd rather be viewed as crazy by this world than to be viewed as lawless by God.

    • @salpezzino7803
      @salpezzino7803 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theeternalsbeliever1779 If you are in the Satanic Cult Hebrew/Jewish roots Cult then you are lawless. If you think in John 14:15 "If you love me, you will keep my commandments" - and believe He said 'law of Moses' and not "my" you would be worse than cray. you will be Damned. In the Great Commission Jesus said -"Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” -- What He didn't say was ', 20 teaching them to observe (all the law of Moses). And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” -- Truly a Low IQ Cult -- Jesus in Matthew 7 was speaking to Torah Keepers when He called them "Lawless" because they thought their works meant something, Just like today's Cultists. BLAAAAH

  • @craiglawrence1414
    @craiglawrence1414 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello my brother can you help me a bit? Did I hear say in another video that it's okay to keep law, just not required I'm thinking I must have misunderstood somewhere along the line. Thank you

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hello, Craig! What I believe the NT teaches is that Christians are permitted to observe Mosaic traditions such as the seventh day Sabbath, eating kosher, Torah feasts, and so on on. Those things were never forbidden. But they are not required of Christians. And keeping them doesn't make us better Christians, or more righteous, or more obedient.
      Blessings, Rob

  • @hellobello2249
    @hellobello2249 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can someone help me? If we are the temple of the Spirit of God, why can we bring unclean animals into our bodies when they could not bring unclean things into the temple?

    • @TheBiblicalRoots
      @TheBiblicalRoots  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hello, Bello. It's because the ritual categories of "clean/unclean" no longer exist under the New Covenant.
      Shalom, Rob

  • @Tom-cv7sf
    @Tom-cv7sf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD ❤
    A TEMPLE MADE WITHOUT HANDS ❤️
    A LIVING ARK OF THE COVENANT 🔥
    REMNANT SONS PRESENTING FATHER'S PRESENCE 🔥
    CHERUBIM R US 🔥🔨
    Birthing the Man Child, the Christ in You the Hope of Glory comes to the outside full grown 🎉 in a twinkling of an eye 😮 Glorified 🎉
    Must be Born Again 😮

  • @AsterionH
    @AsterionH 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    David's arguments make much more sense.

  • @ivangodin1850
    @ivangodin1850 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Law & grace:
    then, would tithing still remained a law ritual?
    my understanding of scripture is that we are no longer bound by it, but giving has become an act driven by love and self sacrifice, where at times, in the NT, offerings given often would surpass one tenth.

  • @scotthays9133
    @scotthays9133 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Impeccable and unarguable logic.

  • @john1172
    @john1172 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brother Solberg do you have a book on what you covered in this video?

  • @royhausdesmullers384
    @royhausdesmullers384 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about the 3. temple ? It will be build (it is prophesied in the bible). What is the function if Jesus is the temple and we are priests ?

  • @ricob888
    @ricob888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ...
    And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
    Genesis 3:4 (KJV)

  • @user-xc2te6rl5h
    @user-xc2te6rl5h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this guy

  • @Oversite869
    @Oversite869 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Torah provides these wisdoms for Life..
    Peace be with thy neighbor.
    Don’t condemn anyone.
    And there is a time and place for everything YOU want to do.
    In everything you do,
    Love Yahuah.
    He is who He is..
    I am who I am.
    Yeshua who you are.
    So create a Torah.
    And respect the Torah of thy neighbors, and join their walk.
    Because everyone has a god, and a Torah.
    Yahusha HaMachiach ze Adonai above all Law

  • @giftmumba86
    @giftmumba86 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amen

  • @markkallstrom7398
    @markkallstrom7398 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love God's commandments

  • @GradyRisley
    @GradyRisley 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Apart from Yeshua, anything, anyplace or anybody that one trusts to facilitate their access to Yahavah is by definition an idol. My2Cents

  • @81JeremyHughes
    @81JeremyHughes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What does it mean when Jesus said I did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it? I hear alot of preachers say that this means the law is still in affect, this typically comes up on the subject of tithing. TY for any info.

    • @Gigi2four
      @Gigi2four 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The entire Old Testament pointed toward Jesus. When he came to earth, He kept every law perfectly ( fulfilled it) because the Israelites never did and we can’t either. His death on the cross instituted the new, better covenant. The book of Hebrews explains it very well. The law was never for gentiles anyway….

    • @jimharmon2300
      @jimharmon2300 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Gigi2four
      You believe GOD gave man impossible laws ?
      I would rethink that accusation against The Most High .

    • @jimharmon2300
      @jimharmon2300 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He fulfilled as an example.
      If he can do it then we have no excuse.

    • @Gigi2four
      @Gigi2four 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jimharmon2300 can/have you kept it perfectly? Would you be able to go to Jerusalem three times a year even if there was a temple? Would you be able to give/pay for a bull or lamb to atone for your sins? Are you totally sure where your food comes from? Do you wear blended fabrics? Do you wear tzit tzits? Long list there. Doing “the best you can” is not keeping the laws. I was exposed to this for three years, so I’m not blowing smoke

    • @jimharmon2300
      @jimharmon2300 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gigi2four
      Judaism is just another religion like all others .
      I keep all that is within my reach .
      Must cleanse the heart first .
      All other things begin to fall into place .

  • @TheRevelationDeception
    @TheRevelationDeception 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    32:07 Interestingly enough, the Greek word translated "disciple" is the noun "mathetes". The verb in the same word family is "manthano" which means "learn". So literally, the "disciples" were "learning ones". If Peter and others he commissioned were under Torah, what was it they had to "learn"? It wasn't Torah!
    M9.13 But going LEARN (manthano) what it is: Mercy I want AND NOT SACRIFICE (according to Torah), for I did not come to call righteous, but failers".
    Paul termed the law of Moses "a law of righteousness" which was opposed to "the law of faithing" R9.31; Phil3.9. Paul also called the law of Moses "the law of failance and of death" R8.2. So the context of those Jesus did NOT come to call being "righteous" points to the righteousness out of law of Moses, not the law of faithing!

  • @TboneWTF
    @TboneWTF 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is it because the Gospel is so convoluted and contradicting that it would be ridiculous to try and follow what it claims? Or is it because the Gospel allows for and supports many immoral and hateful actions which if followed would get you sentenced to life in prison?

    • @TboneWTF
      @TboneWTF 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol

  • @jessiebass8670
    @jessiebass8670 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rob in making these videos what do you thing about Matt 5:17 and following?

  • @candycehancock3
    @candycehancock3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you believe that people that observe the Torah are not really Christians?

  • @graftme3168
    @graftme3168 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can't imagine that the apostles would have continued the animal sacrifices! What would be the point?

  • @gideonopyotuadebo2304
    @gideonopyotuadebo2304 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FOLLOWING THE LAW GIVING AND COVENANT GIVING LORD GOD YEHOVAH THE JUDGE OF ALL OR FOLLOWING THE ANTILAW PREACHING SERPENT IS A PERSONAL CHOICE WITH PERSONAL CONSEWUENCIES

  • @stephenfoster9009
    @stephenfoster9009 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The basis tenant is wrong. The Gospel,takes you from death to life so we can live the Law - God’s righteousness and definition of holiness.

  • @gideonopyotuadebo2304
    @gideonopyotuadebo2304 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GOD YEHOVAH NEVER SAID HE CAN ONLY BE WORSHIPPED AND SERVED INSIDE THE TEMPLE
    IN CAPTIVITY IN BABYLON, THERE WERE PEOPLE STILL WORSHIPING GOD YEHOVAH THE LAWGIVER. DANIEL STILL WORSHIPPED GOD YEHOVAH IN BABYLON
    Isaiah 33:22 ASV
    For Jehovah is our judge, Jehovah is our lawgiver, Jehovah is our king; he will save us.

  • @Tom-cv7sf
    @Tom-cv7sf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let the legal eagles be legal eagles still 😮
    Hear God and Mature in Christ 💗
    Grow up into the fullness of the stature of Christ 🎉
    Delete the carnal mind and upload the Mind of Christ 🎉
    Be Transformed by the renewing of your mind 🎉

  • @simonskinner1450
    @simonskinner1450 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is no contradiction between keeping the law and the gospel, and in the gospel only doers of the law shall be justified, the law given to Abraham kept by faith for the grace of Christ.