Immediately picked up on that. Above Ronaldinho, Modric, Iniesta, Henry etc... dunno about that one lol. Also no Samuel Eto'o - eternally slept on player. And no Busquets?! Mad.
I just don't think you can make lists like this anymore. The game has changed far too much to be trying to compare players from the 1930's - it's almost 100 years ago! There needs to be a split now between top modern era players, and top classic era players.
@soulkingbrook1439 what in-between? Like the lads talked about its hard to talk about footballers realistically pre-1950/60s and compared them to other eras. You can't compare Eusebio, Stanley Mathews, Billy Liddle and Dixie Dean to footballers of today.
How is Samuel Etoo not on this list. Was at Mallorca from age 19-23 and got 70 goals in 165 games and is their all time top goalscorer. Barcelona 130 goals in 199 games, 34 goals in 47 games and 36 in 52 his best seasons. Inter Milan 53 goals in 102 games, his best season 37 goals in 53 games (8 goals in 10 champions league games), guardiola ditched him, he went to inter, knocked peps Barca side out of the champions league semi final and did the treble that season winning serie a, champions league and Copa Italia. 56 goals in 118 games for Cameroon, winning Afcon twice. 12 goals in 35 games for Chelsea as a 34 year old Back up striker. Barcelona he was there for 5 years and won 3 la Liga titles, 2 champions leagues and top assist provider champions league 05/06 being his main achievements, people will say anyone could have done what he done in that Barca side but many players also tried and wasn't as successful as he was (ibra, henry, ronaldinho) and la Liga was the hardest league at that time. He's achieved and performed at every level, a smaller team like mallorca and Cameroon to a big team like Barcelona and inter Milan, for both under dogs and favourites and in England, Italy and Spain and scored goals and got assists. The most underrated and disrespected player ever. Legend.
@@KnowhereClue Di Maria shouldn't even be on the list. Shit I doubt he'd even make a top 200 of all time, but to have him 17TH?! Comedy. Thierry Henry, the best PL player of all time sitting in 58th is also just as big of a crime.
Yeah I think it’s recency bias with that. Brilliant goal in the World Cup and he has been doing it for years but to have him at a level above most of those other players is wild. Although I do admit he would get in my top 100
What have Arturo Vidal and Radamel Falcao done to be on this list and above some all time greats at that? Just random as hell. And Di Maria 17th?! Please tell me that's a joke.
@@jackhind5904 Falcao is a joke, Mbappe will get there and at this stage you could arguably compare him to Maradona, who had a relatively short career and is mostly known for lighting it up on the world stage. Shearer would be ahead of Mbappe for me.
I got as far as 7th before i just laughed and appreciated the trolling. Like who made this list? who thinks they can compare Mbappe and Pele? Anyone alive enough to have been around in George Best's pomp to be able to compare him with Beckham aint using the internet
So refreshing to see a group of well spoken lads talk about football without any club bias. Wholesome, constructive chats throughout (maybe a bit of bickering around the top 100 list but I'll allow that). Great podcast, keep it up!
Faysal is mad with these arguments for Ramos, now i think Ramos 100% Makes this list, but Sweeper defenders started with Beckenbauer, Got continued with the likes of Mattias Sammer and Ronald Koeman. So ball playing and goalscoring center backs already started before Ramos.
“You’re letting 3 months effect your ranking” 5 minutes earlier they were discussing how a single penalty kept Baggio out of the list when if he made it he’s around top 20
Evwn as a united fan I cannot disagree If he was from spain or brazil and his name ended in dinho he would be hailed as one of the best of his generation. Insanely underrated
the one issue in this discussion is not being able to separate how you feel about them off the pitch and then how good they are on the pitch just cause u dislike someone doesn’t mean they ain’t a good footballer
Ronaldo is obviously 2nd. I don't like him on or off the pitch, but his career is so overwhelmingly dominant and filled with moments, trophies, stats that there is no question.
No way he's better than Maradona. Sure he has less goals, but dude, he was not a striker. Maradona was just waaaaay more complete and he also achieved what he achieved in worse teams. There was just nobody else ever that could do what he did in Napoli, Messi might be better, but there's a component of charisma that made him a one man army.
I'm sorry but I would easily take 20 years consistently playing at the top level and delivering trophies, insane catalogue of some of the greatest goals and also sheer numbers, over having all the ability in the world, one world cup campaign and some great seasons for a Napoli in a career that ended in lack of self control and drugs.
I do personally think he is second all time, but depending on what you value he could be as low as 5th. Pele could get ahead due to international success Maradona could also get ahead of him due to international success, and his carrying jobs with Napoli. Johann Cruyff has a case due to transforming the way football is played and he did that both as a player and as a manager. But i don’t personally include Pele and Maradona for me. As i haven’t watched them enough to make a fair assesment, and i do consider like what James mentioned when Pele, Jairzinho, Socrates etc played it’s like a completely different sport from more modern football, the pitches was different, the ball they used was different etc.
Exactly. I root against Ronaldo in pretty much every game he plays in because of his ego but that doesn't change his greatness and although these are personal lists of the Top 100, Ronaldo has the numbers, trophies, and legacy that cannot be denied from the Top 2. Whether or not a player has an ego doesn't change how great of a player they are.
Kane should 100% be on that list. He has been the best striker in the premier league (the highest level) for years in an average Spurs team. He's a consummate professional, a Golden Boot winner, and the all-time scorer for England meaning he can stand up to the likes of Charlton who played football in an era where games were more traditionally high-scoring affairs. His only downfall is playing for a Spurs team that's not had the capability to challenge for honours, and in an England team that isn't on paper the best team in Europe, let alone the world. @@thetruth4654
XAVI is so freaking underrated nowadays, people say he did nothing in final third. He got 30 assists in 1 season, 4 in 1 el clasico, assists in 2 euros finals, 2 ucl finals, 1 wc semi final
It’s genuinely embarrassing for people who speak about football for a LIVING to say that Ronaldo isn’t at least number 2. As a football “journalist” you’re supposed to be able to put personal dislike aside and recognise true greatness
Again with the recency bias. You could just do some research and see that Peleus easily top 2, he’s better in basically every department apart from heading but that’s due to his height, he was actually very good for that height tho. He also played in the best league itw was infinitely better at international level and had a better peak
Not enough talk about Ashley Cole. Not only criminal him Not being on the list, but probably the best left back of all time. Should be in top 50 at least. Probably the only defender who consistently managed to get the better of CR7
@@pomster226Doesn't compare in terms of quality??!!! Marcelo was effortless, and yeah- the trophies speak for themselves. Fair enough, Cole is probably the best for defensive ability only, but the art of a full back is much more.
@@dannyk123 Marcelo was a very good offensive fullback in a good team, don't get me wrong, but he wasn't the best at anything. There were, and have been since, better attacking fullbacks in world football. Cole was, bar none, the best defensive leftback of his era, one of the best of all time, and not bad offensively either. If the trophies speak for themselves, then Carvajal must be one of the best right backs ever, right?
@jamesg9468 first of all Egypt are a terrible team, secondly salah is know the world over, he's so well known in the middle East and North Africa that Saudi were willing to pay 120 million for him at his big age with only 2 years left on his contract and the will come in again for him if not in January then in the summer, honestly my guy what have you been smoking
James make a great point about the fortune of being in a good team. You have to wonder where players like Virgil Van Dijk would be if he'd come through a top tier La Liga academy like Ramos rather than coming through a bang average Dutch one and fighting his way to the top. A nuance worth considering when you evaluate a whole career
Bruv, I'm a Liverpool fan, I love VVD. But your point is based in zero fact. The Groningen youth academy that Virgil came through is probably on a similar level to the Sevilla youth academy that Ramos came through. 🤷
I mean his legacy and career would most likely be way better, but it’s still hypothetical so it really isn’t possible to know for sure, that his career would only benefit from it.
The fact that you think Dutch academies are average is such a poor take. Van Dijk developed later in his career which is fine happens to other players. It's tough to rank him because of his career path can only say he was at a top side for a few seasons compared to Ramos, who has been a top performer for probably 15 years.
Ramos invented nothing. Koeman, Beckenbauer, Roberto Carlos, Breitner… even Steve Bruce were all ball playing high scoring defenders long before Ramos.
I’m sorry Jim… but saying Sergio Ramos is nowhere near the top 40 or so players of all time but then arguing that Riyad Mahrez should be on this list is one of the worst shouts I’ve ever heard in my life hahaha
Tbf he didn't say that Mahrez should be on this list. He said top 20 all time in the english premiere league, which with his stats and trophies at city plus the Leicester season I can see an argument for.
@@bg22757winning the title with fucking Leicester city and he won the treble with man city and he’s had plenty of memorable performances, idk if I would have him on top 20 PL players tho tbh
completely disagree with faysal on the nostalgia bias nonsense. all i see is ppl sucking off players like mahrez and di maria and somehow arguing they are anywhere near a top 100 list. the both barely compete for a top 30 for this decade
@@DarioOle-tp5tp maybe, but I didn’t make the list, and there are many things I disagree about it. Was just pointing out to the guy who asked where he was
The world cup was a big deal then, and it started fading till our time, when the UCL is a bigger deal than the world cup, cos the best players play in the UCL compared to former times. It's like Stanley Matthews performances in the FA Cup, Sir Tom Finney's as well, Socrates' performance in the league though he didn't really have major trophies, their abilities, etc.
I have to say I'm very surprised Cruijff didn't make any of your top 5's. For me the most influential player ever. Regarding talent and skillset he's in the same bracket as Messi, Maradona, Pele & Zidane.
@@t.c.4321 That's a fair point but he played more recent than Pele and all of them have him in there. I mean don't get me wrong Pele belongs there, but so does Cruijff in my opinion.
Unfortunately it's very difficult for me to put anyone at all ever over Alfredo Di Stefano. Generally Cruyff ends up 6th when I do a list, just below Alfredo Di Stefano.
@@Alex-tn3tq and Ronaldo massively helped a much worse Portugal win the euros, people gloss over this, he was so passionate that euros and all the players loved him. Just saying football is overly fickle.
@@aaronclarke4308 and he did nothing in that final because he spent most of the time on the side Whereas someone like Messi, Pele and Maradona massively effected the final their countries played in a carried their team to eternal glory
Sorry but the fact he thinks Ramos was the first ball playing Centre half is ridiculous and the fact they didn’t mention Bobby Moore in the conversation shows a lack of knowledge of the game he was way ahead of his time with his ability to bring the ball forward and was so skilful on the ball and there was no other defender like him at the time and was also labelled as the best defender they played against by Pele and Beckenbauer who are also 3rd and 10th on this list so the fact he is 75th is ridiculous
James boiling down Ramos' legacy to "just being a dick" is one of the most insane things I've heard😭 Obviously master of the dark arts but he was also an exceptional CB (probably the best in the world for 4/5 seasons in the mid 2010's) and one of Madrid's greatest captains.
The best 5 players 1. Messi 2. Ronaldo 3. Pele 4. Maradona 5. Zidane MY FAVOURITE 3 players 1. James Coppinger (met him in real life lovely bloke) 2. Michu (great celebration) 3. Dane Scarlett (never forget the 21/22 Spurs FM save) Like if you can't separate the play from the player just don't bother with the list. I'm not a Ronaldo fan boy, but anyone telling me that Ronaldo isn't top 2 BECAUSE he did an interview with Piers Morgan OR because you don't like him is being just as stupid as this list already was.
Football is about feelings to take their personality out of the equation is stupid as that has a direct tie to one’s contributions to the team and Ronaldos ego is toxic as he always projects it whenever he doesn’t get what he wants via united he doesn’t try to lift the teams spirit just out for himself and for that he does get some points docked😂
@@Damn-Sandwich and what you're saying is 100% valid - and not at all what they said. The things they mention are, "he's ugly", "he took his top off once to celebrate" and the Pier Morgan interview. None of which have ANYTHING to do with him on the field at all. At that point, they may as well be saying Messi isn't the best player in the world because I don't like his haircut.
Kweku talks about Gerrard as if he’s won nothing in his whole career when the sad reality is that for his club he won every possible trophy except the league! If he had really “won nothing” as you say, we wouldn’t put him in the Gerrard/Lampard/Scholes debate. And for the love of god please don’t compare Harry Kane’s trophyless career to Steven Gerrard’s career…
It's easy to determine who's better out of Gerrard and Lampard. If you swapped them, who would do better for their respective teams? Lampard would not be carrying Djimi Traore and Igor Biscan at any point. Put Gerrard with Ballack, Essien, Mekele? Jesus Christ. They'd win everything
I think Gerrard was better than Lampard but Lampard would have laughed at the idea of joining Liverpool (if they could've afforded him at that time). So, what you've written says very little. Liverpool trying to sign Lampard would've been like Brighton trying to sign De Bruyne@@martinmcwilliams
I think the most important part to discuss isnt the list itself but the boundaries/what you take into account when making decisions. Is it purely ability? Because if so, the average premier league player is miles better than the stars of the 1950's - thats just how sport works. Its impossible to compare and argue about player's when everyone is on a different page and is taking into account different things when making decisions. Then when you add the intangibles like how x player makes you feel when you watch them or how ronaldos antics have changed your opinion on him - the line becomes even blurrier. I think thats what Faysal was missing at the end when he couldnt believe ronaldo could be outside the top 2 😂
Stop talking about Scholes like that. Scholes is better than the two. He had everything these guys had, but was highly impactful. If you're talking about we mentioning what we saw actually, then nobody should watch the game and make analysis. You need to understand the game to be able to see some things.
And I can't understand how you put Ronaldo behind Maradona because of a Peirs Morgan interview... it's outrageous. Then Maradona shouldn't touch top 5 because he is there because of a World Cup won with a handball goal, come on...
Fasal criteria had trophies in it and legacy, then he said ramos had a better legacy bc of what he achieved and won then there the same criteria 😂😂😂😂😂 tf is he on about. IMO perfect criteria is: Stats, Eye test, trophies, Clutch /iconic moments
Controversial opinion here but Zidane is overrated. Huge moments and huge ability, but there’s a lot more players who were a lot more consistent. Up there with anyone for ability, but a lot of games passed him by, compared to someone like Xavi, Modric or Iniesta, who were the heartbeats of their teams each and every game
I never really understood the Neymar hype. I feel he was more of a celebrity than a football player. He never really developed as a player and ruined his career early on. He had potential at Santos and we saw small glimpses at Barca of what he really could become but he never really reached those limits. The hype in recent years about him being amongst the greats is overrated. Arjen Robben, Ribbery, Mueller, Modric, Iniesta, Busquets, Xavi, Forlan, Tevez, Aguero, di Maria and Sneijder all had more successful careers than Neymar and should be ranked above him.
HITC Sevens put out a good video on Neymar last week. His career stats are actually pretty good, and he's a great footballer. But everyone considers his career a flop because he never reached the expectations set on him - which was basically to become the best player in the world. He's also just not all that likeable, which doesn't help.
Forlan and Tevez?????????? What? What did they do? Neymars played in a shit Brazil, is still their all time top scorer, got a g/a a game in europe, had as much flair and skill as anyone ever like idk what more you really want from him. I understand people don’t like him cos of his antics, but I really disagree that he’s overrated. The only player I have higher out of the ones you mentioned is Xavi.
He's definitely better than Kweku (from watching sds regularly faysal is entertaining and knowledgeable in comparison to others in the football youtube industry) also I wouldn't bother listening to him when it comes to anything to do with Madrid because he lets bias get to him a bit too much when talking about Madrid@@hellosaysme08
These lists can be argued for days on on end but one thing never changes, that being leo messi at number 1. Like depending on what factors you judge players based on cristiano could be 2nd or 5th, but literally no one is above messi. To me that is insane
Who brought that bearded guy there? No disrespect, but c'mon. Ramos is not world class nor exceptional at pure defensive credentials. Nesta, Terry, Silva, and Terry are better. Baresi was actually a sweeper too.
Feel like it’s wild to knock Ronaldo for his personality and yet they ranked Maradona over Pele despite maradona having a lot of personal issues. Just whether you see them as a victim or not.
I feel that trophies won should play a very minor role when judging a player. Teams win trophies, not individuals. A player may have an impact on that achievement, but it is not an individual award.
Creating a list of fhe top 100 footballers of all time is probably the hardest thing someone can possibly do thats not academical 😂😂. Theres just too many different caveats to consider when making it, not to mention theres been so many professional footballers that the difference between 1st and 20th has to be minimal.
I can respect his opinion and still gladly say that Xavi is wrong in that assesment. Scholes as good as he is, shouldn’t make the list ahead of someone like Pirlo, let alone ahead of the likes of Xavi, Iniesta and Zidane. Scholes was quality though no question about it. I’d gladly take him if i couldn’t pick the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Zidane, Pirlo, Busquets and Modric.
Di Maria at 17 is mad, but saying Di Maria isn't too 100 is even worse. He has like 500 goals and assists FFS. The neymar slander is wild too. Jimmy Greaves not making this list is bad. Literally the top scorer in English football history.
Ya I love Di Maria especially at Real Madrid he was insane, didn't watch much of him in PSG and with Argentina he was always the 2nd most clutch after Messi. But 17 is way too damn high. He should be at the end of the list.
judging a "footballer" on an all time list of best footballers for something "outside of football" is astonishing, this is a list of the best footballers of all time, not the most likeable footballers of all time, u judge this by numbers, abilities, achievements, eye test, etc.
I think the problem with lists such as this one is that our generation (i‘m 25) hasn‘t really ever seen a lot of these players live. It therefore kind of has to rely on stats and achievements alone, when actually in my personal opinion the number one decider has to be eye-test. The reason Messi is the greater player than Ronaldo isn‘t the world cup or that his goals/assists per game is higher. It‘s watching him do shit that would be career defining moments for lesser (but still great) players on a game to game basis. Something nobody (i‘ve seen play) has ever even come close to. Now just to clarify, ronaldo is a brilliant player and definitely has to be top 5, whether you like his persona or not. I just think the argument that those who prefer messi just hate his ego and are blinded by that hatred is utter bullshit. As I see it: If the balon d‘or were actually given to the best overall player in the world, not the trophy-winners and stat-dominators, messi would have won every one of them since 2009 except maybe in his first season at PSG.
it’s given based on yearly performance, so ronaldo still would have won 4-5 bc he slightly overperformed messi a few times. but messi would be close to 10. he was arguing that ronaldo should be top 2, not above messi, tho. it’s ridiculous to say “it’s all numbers” or “that 3 months brings him from 2nd to 4th”. almost like you’re on drugs. it’s crazy. bc ronaldo is quite literally one of the most impressive eye tests ever up until about 2019.
@@vewayy Yes he outperformed Messi in some years on stats, but i‘ve never seen him outperform him in terms of playing the game allround, that‘s why i say that if being the best player were the criterion he would‘ve won it every year. It isn‘t tho because it‘s mostly about stats/trophies and only maybe then about overall play and impact (which is why midfielders and defenders rarely stand a chance). So by that measure sure, ronaldo would‘ve won his balon d‘ors, but i‘m speaking hypothetically if it went to best overall player. Yet I agree that it‘s very harsh not having him in your top 3 or four, even including players like pele or maradona. From the players i‘ve personally witnessed playing he‘s definitely top two, i wouldn‘t really include those earlier players if i were to make a list because i‘ve only seen highlights.
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Di Maria at 17 and Henry at 58 is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen.
Di Maria 17 and Roberto Carlos 41 ???? Roberto Carlos is by far the best LB this world has ever seen.
@@sasukebyak yeah I was just comparing Di Maria and Henry because they’re both wingers.
Henry is way, way up the list
@@sasukebyakAbsulotely brother! 💯
Immediately picked up on that. Above Ronaldinho, Modric, Iniesta, Henry etc... dunno about that one lol. Also no Samuel Eto'o - eternally slept on player. And no Busquets?! Mad.
I just don't think you can make lists like this anymore. The game has changed far too much to be trying to compare players from the 1930's - it's almost 100 years ago! There needs to be a split now between top modern era players, and top classic era players.
Great idea. Where is the divide between classic and modern?
@@willowfi5110 European Cup to UCL thats how you split it.
@@calgon5689what about players in between eras?
@soulkingbrook1439 what in-between? Like the lads talked about its hard to talk about footballers realistically pre-1950/60s and compared them to other eras. You can't compare Eusebio, Stanley Mathews, Billy Liddle and Dixie Dean to footballers of today.
Hard agree
How is Samuel Etoo not on this list. Was at Mallorca from age 19-23 and got 70 goals in 165 games and is their all time top goalscorer. Barcelona 130 goals in 199 games, 34 goals in 47 games and 36 in 52 his best seasons. Inter Milan 53 goals in 102 games, his best season 37 goals in 53 games (8 goals in 10 champions league games), guardiola ditched him, he went to inter, knocked peps Barca side out of the champions league semi final and did the treble that season winning serie a, champions league and Copa Italia. 56 goals in 118 games for Cameroon, winning Afcon twice. 12 goals in 35 games for Chelsea as a 34 year old Back up striker. Barcelona he was there for 5 years and won 3 la Liga titles, 2 champions leagues and top assist provider champions league 05/06 being his main achievements, people will say anyone could have done what he done in that Barca side but many players also tried and wasn't as successful as he was (ibra, henry, ronaldinho) and la Liga was the hardest league at that time. He's achieved and performed at every level, a smaller team like mallorca and Cameroon to a big team like Barcelona and inter Milan, for both under dogs and favourites and in England, Italy and Spain and scored goals and got assists. The most underrated and disrespected player ever. Legend.
Damn well when u put it like that..
lol did they put Di Maria above Ronaldinho, Modric and Iniesta??? hahahaha
Yeh shocking that. You can kind of make (weak) arguments for the rest of the placings on that list but the Di María one is completely undefendable
Mate Thomas Muller is 27th. Not Gerd, Thomas. I mean I know he’s underrated but that’s some serious compensating
Yeah Di Maria is higher than alot of players he shouldn't be.
@@KnowhereClue Di Maria shouldn't even be on the list. Shit I doubt he'd even make a top 200 of all time, but to have him 17TH?! Comedy.
Thierry Henry, the best PL player of all time sitting in 58th is also just as big of a crime.
Yeah I think it’s recency bias with that. Brilliant goal in the World Cup and he has been doing it for years but to have him at a level above most of those other players is wild. Although I do admit he would get in my top 100
What have Arturo Vidal and Radamel Falcao done to be on this list and above some all time greats at that? Just random as hell. And Di Maria 17th?! Please tell me that's a joke.
Diego Forlan 46th and Rooney and busquets not top 100 is a war crime
Vidal for Copa America? either way it's shocking
Yeah how is he above gerrard and lampard
@@ToleratingTheLifeofElias And a Ballon'dor winner in Gullit.
No Busquets on this list???? This should be a crime
or shearer, i may be a biased newcastle fan but players like falcao and mbappe on the list seems ridiculous to me
@@jackhind5904 Falcao is a joke, Mbappe will get there and at this stage you could arguably compare him to Maradona, who had a relatively short career and is mostly known for lighting it up on the world stage. Shearer would be ahead of Mbappe for me.
Arturo Vidal is better?😂
The list was fucked the moment I saw Hazard above Bale.
Both were pretty overrated to be honest
I got as far as 7th before i just laughed and appreciated the trolling.
Like who made this list? who thinks they can compare Mbappe and Pele? Anyone alive enough to have been around in George Best's pomp to be able to compare him with Beckham aint using the internet
@@keytostart7053 i got to second before i knew it was a bad list.
You saw the list and that was your immediate issue?
The fact that I saw them both in the list is fked.
So refreshing to see a group of well spoken lads talk about football without any club bias. Wholesome, constructive chats throughout (maybe a bit of bickering around the top 100 list but I'll allow that). Great podcast, keep it up!
Faysal is mad with these arguments for Ramos, now i think Ramos 100% Makes this list, but Sweeper defenders started with Beckenbauer, Got continued with the likes of Mattias Sammer and Ronald Koeman. So ball playing and goalscoring center backs already started before Ramos.
Yeah Baresi is literally better than ramos at everything, only thing ramos has on him is like 2 extra ucls and 2 euros
“You’re letting 3 months effect your ranking” 5 minutes earlier they were discussing how a single penalty kept Baggio out of the list when if he made it he’s around top 20
Factos
Biggest robbery is baggio 100%
This drove me mad.
Yup, not to mention the point the other guy was trying to make was that those three months highlighted the issues that were already there lol.
Exactly lol and as of Baresi isn’t miles clear anyway. Surprise surprise the Real Madrid fan glazes ramos just for winning a lot of trophies
Salah has 210 goal contributions in 237 games - and that includes his Chelsea performances. 59 G/A in 79 CL games.
He should be on that list.
no
if Arturo Vidal, Di Maria, Laudrup and Hagi made the list then Salah definitely should@@Nicho213007
Evwn as a united fan I cannot disagree
If he was from spain or brazil and his name ended in dinho he would be hailed as one of the best of his generation. Insanely underrated
@@Nicho213007clown
Salah should be top 40
Why the hell isn't Alan Shearer and Salah in this list?!
No Rooney either
I think the whole thing is international games only
no its not theyre just categorised by their nations @@NUFCOfficial
@@NUFCOfficial not really, if ronaldo is second on the list
the one issue in this discussion is not being able to separate how you feel about them off the pitch and then how good they are on the pitch just cause u dislike someone doesn’t mean they ain’t a good footballer
i agree but you could argue nowadays that what you're like off the pitch is just as important as on the pitch.
How's busquets not here? And Arjen Robben should be higher
The fact that Rooney isn’t on this list is absolutely criminal
How on earth is Thierry Henry only 58th
Seeing Diego Forlan at 46th on the list made me give up hope in humanity.
Robben is down at 43rd. Am I looking at a totally different list?
You're right 46th @@j.j.911
Ronaldo is obviously 2nd. I don't like him on or off the pitch, but his career is so overwhelmingly dominant and filled with moments, trophies, stats that there is no question.
No way he's better than Maradona. Sure he has less goals, but dude, he was not a striker. Maradona was just waaaaay more complete and he also achieved what he achieved in worse teams. There was just nobody else ever that could do what he did in Napoli, Messi might be better, but there's a component of charisma that made him a one man army.
I'm sorry but I would easily take 20 years consistently playing at the top level and delivering trophies, insane catalogue of some of the greatest goals and also sheer numbers, over having all the ability in the world, one world cup campaign and some great seasons for a Napoli in a career that ended in lack of self control and drugs.
I do personally think he is second all time, but depending on what you value he could be as low as 5th.
Pele could get ahead due to international success
Maradona could also get ahead of him due to international success, and his carrying jobs with Napoli.
Johann Cruyff has a case due to transforming the way football is played and he did that both as a player and as a manager.
But i don’t personally include Pele and Maradona for me. As i haven’t watched them enough to make a fair assesment, and i do consider like what James mentioned when Pele, Jairzinho, Socrates etc played it’s like a completely different sport from more modern football, the pitches was different, the ball they used was different etc.
Exactly. I root against Ronaldo in pretty much every game he plays in because of his ego but that doesn't change his greatness and although these are personal lists of the Top 100, Ronaldo has the numbers, trophies, and legacy that cannot be denied from the Top 2. Whether or not a player has an ego doesn't change how great of a player they are.
@@brunoactis1104 Completely agree, It's just your view on it is more subjective.
Kane and Shearer should be on this list no doubt about it. Salah too
Shearer and Salah yes, Harry Kane dear god no!
@@thetruth4654over falcao and di Maria yes
@@YohannesssenFalcao probably so. Di Maria no.
Over Falcao yes, Di Maria no.
While Di Maria should be around 98-100 he would and should make the list ahead of Kane.
Kane should 100% be on that list. He has been the best striker in the premier league (the highest level) for years in an average Spurs team. He's a consummate professional, a Golden Boot winner, and the all-time scorer for England meaning he can stand up to the likes of Charlton who played football in an era where games were more traditionally high-scoring affairs. His only downfall is playing for a Spurs team that's not had the capability to challenge for honours, and in an England team that isn't on paper the best team in Europe, let alone the world. @@thetruth4654
XAVI is so freaking underrated nowadays, people say he did nothing in final third. He got 30 assists in 1 season, 4 in 1 el clasico, assists in 2 euros finals, 2 ucl finals, 1 wc semi final
It’s genuinely embarrassing for people who speak about football for a LIVING to say that Ronaldo isn’t at least number 2.
As a football “journalist” you’re supposed to be able to put personal dislike aside and recognise true greatness
Again with the recency bias. You could just do some research and see that Peleus easily top 2, he’s better in basically every department apart from heading but that’s due to his height, he was actually very good for that height tho. He also played in the best league itw was infinitely better at international level and had a better peak
Xavi was doing that. At age 18, he was incredibly playmaking, even playing alongside a true metronome like Pep Guardiola.
Not enough talk about Ashley Cole. Not only criminal him Not being on the list, but probably the best left back of all time. Should be in top 50 at least. Probably the only defender who consistently managed to get the better of CR7
Marcelo exists
@@dannyk123Marcelo doesn't compare to Ashley Cole in terms of quality. Achievements yes, but defending ability? Not even close.
@@pomster226Doesn't compare in terms of quality??!!! Marcelo was effortless, and yeah- the trophies speak for themselves. Fair enough, Cole is probably the best for defensive ability only, but the art of a full back is much more.
@@dannyk123 Marcelo was a very good offensive fullback in a good team, don't get me wrong, but he wasn't the best at anything. There were, and have been since, better attacking fullbacks in world football. Cole was, bar none, the best defensive leftback of his era, one of the best of all time, and not bad offensively either. If the trophies speak for themselves, then Carvajal must be one of the best right backs ever, right?
Salah being omitted from this list is basically a war crime.
Salahs reached a great level but only since he was like 24, most of these players have been at salahs current level or better for like 10+ years
Good for Liverpool, but never made any presence for Egypt internationally. Most people outside of England don't know who Salah is.
@jamesg9468 first of all Egypt are a terrible team, secondly salah is know the world over, he's so well known in the middle East and North Africa that Saudi were willing to pay 120 million for him at his big age with only 2 years left on his contract and the will come in again for him if not in January then in the summer, honestly my guy what have you been smoking
@@jamesg9468How can you be this stupid and still know how to work a keyboard?
Iniesta was better than Xavi. And Arjen Robben, Ribbery and Mueler is all clear of Neymar
Disagree, I always thought Xavi was the more complete player than Iniesta. Agree with the rest though although I never rated Neymar much at all really
James make a great point about the fortune of being in a good team. You have to wonder where players like Virgil Van Dijk would be if he'd come through a top tier La Liga academy like Ramos rather than coming through a bang average Dutch one and fighting his way to the top.
A nuance worth considering when you evaluate a whole career
Bruv, I'm a Liverpool fan, I love VVD. But your point is based in zero fact. The Groningen youth academy that Virgil came through is probably on a similar level to the Sevilla youth academy that Ramos came through. 🤷
Factos
That lampard debate was embarrassing
I mean his legacy and career would most likely be way better, but it’s still hypothetical so it really isn’t possible to know for sure, that his career would only benefit from it.
The fact that you think Dutch academies are average is such a poor take.
Van Dijk developed later in his career which is fine happens to other players. It's tough to rank him because of his career path can only say he was at a top side for a few seasons compared to Ramos, who has been a top performer for probably 15 years.
Ramos invented nothing. Koeman, Beckenbauer, Roberto Carlos, Breitner… even Steve Bruce were all ball playing high scoring defenders long before Ramos.
My shout is Luís Figo should 100% be in the top 100.
No José Andrade on this list is a complete joke. Was universally considered the best throughout the 1920's, won several international trophies.
Rather trust Havertz to score every game than a Real Madrid fan from London.
You're right, the guy must be made of polyester, because he is so much of a plastic
he’s from iraq, real madrid was one of the only teams they showed on tv, it makes sense
@@a.s1232 his london accent is stronger than fifa 13 akinfenwa brev
I’m sorry Jim… but saying Sergio Ramos is nowhere near the top 40 or so players of all time but then arguing that Riyad Mahrez should be on this list is one of the worst shouts I’ve ever heard in my life hahaha
Couldn’t agree more
Tbf he didn't say that Mahrez should be on this list. He said top 20 all time in the english premiere league, which with his stats and trophies at city plus the Leicester season I can see an argument for.
As a Barca fan I full believe Ramos deserves to be on that list
Mahrez in top 20 prem players is crazyyy
He's not even top 20 from the last decade. Was basically City's version of Ole.
His legacy is insane
@@emperorlordkhalid9227explain what you mean by legacy
@@bg22757winning the title with fucking Leicester city and he won the treble with man city and he’s had plenty of memorable performances, idk if I would have him on top 20 PL players tho tbh
@@juniorvillegas2241 chill out on the anger, also I didn't ask you, I asked the other guy what HE meant.
completely disagree with faysal on the nostalgia bias nonsense. all i see is ppl sucking off players like mahrez and di maria and somehow arguing they are anywhere near a top 100 list. the both barely compete for a top 30 for this decade
Diego Forlan ahead of Thierry Henry. Wild.
No Kenny Dalglish?
The disrespect towards Arjen Robben.
Really? He’s at 43? Probably too high imo
@@oufc90his better than Neymar
@@DarioOle-tp5tp maybe, but I didn’t make the list, and there are many things I disagree about it. Was just pointing out to the guy who asked where he was
Prime Robben was robbed of the Ballon dor
@@hugomarx1324so was van dijk but we're talking about him not being on the list at all
Prime Arjen Robben 2013 were robbed of a ballon dor.
He wasn’t, Ronaldo was better he scored like 68 goals or something but yeah robben was better cos he won the ucl ig?
Arjen Robben far better than Neymar
The world cup was a big deal then, and it started fading till our time, when the UCL is a bigger deal than the world cup, cos the best players play in the UCL compared to former times. It's like Stanley Matthews performances in the FA Cup, Sir Tom Finney's as well, Socrates' performance in the league though he didn't really have major trophies, their abilities, etc.
I have to say I'm very surprised Cruijff didn't make any of your top 5's. For me the most influential player ever. Regarding talent and skillset he's in the same bracket as Messi, Maradona, Pele & Zidane.
I suppose he played a bit too long ago, that's why he does jump to people's minds, because they haven't seen him often
@@t.c.4321 That's a fair point but he played more recent than Pele and all of them have him in there. I mean don't get me wrong Pele belongs there, but so does Cruijff in my opinion.
Unfortunately it's very difficult for me to put anyone at all ever over Alfredo Di Stefano. Generally Cruyff ends up 6th when I do a list, just below Alfredo Di Stefano.
@@yaboykirby7789 fair enough, Di Stefano was a brilliant brilliant player as well. Of course it's always personal preference.
Yeah, it’s quite strange.
Saying Ronaldos last 3 months costing him a higher place yet putting Zidane up there when his last game cost his country, it's ridiculous
THAT TAKE IS THE WORST THING i HAVE EVER SEEN
Zizou already won his country a world cup though
@@Alex-tn3tq and Ronaldo massively helped a much worse Portugal win the euros, people gloss over this, he was so passionate that euros and all the players loved him. Just saying football is overly fickle.
@@aaronclarke4308 and he did nothing in that final because he spent most of the time on the side
Whereas someone like Messi, Pele and Maradona massively effected the final their countries played in a carried their team to eternal glory
@@Alex-tn3tqso nothing matters apart from the final then?
Cruff is 5th. He literally changed the Game!
The top 4 are cemented.
Ronaldo, messi, pele, maradona then cruff.
I would like to see a list from football match commentators, ones who have been around for the past 20, 30+ years
Sorry but the fact he thinks Ramos was the first ball playing Centre half is ridiculous and the fact they didn’t mention Bobby Moore in the conversation shows a lack of knowledge of the game he was way ahead of his time with his ability to bring the ball forward and was so skilful on the ball and there was no other defender like him at the time and was also labelled as the best defender they played against by Pele and Beckenbauer who are also 3rd and 10th on this list so the fact he is 75th is ridiculous
Goal scoring defenders who could play? Koeman, Beckenbauer, Blanc, Roberto Carlos, Steve Bruce, Hierra, Passarella. All before Ramos
but RaMoS pLaYeD fOr MaDrId
@@owenrodgers8020 So did Hierro to be fair
James boiling down Ramos' legacy to "just being a dick" is one of the most insane things I've heard😭
Obviously master of the dark arts but he was also an exceptional CB (probably the best in the world for 4/5 seasons in the mid 2010's) and one of Madrid's greatest captains.
Roberto Baggio's Magical Free Kicks IYKYK
The best 5 players
1. Messi
2. Ronaldo
3. Pele
4. Maradona
5. Zidane
MY FAVOURITE 3 players
1. James Coppinger (met him in real life lovely bloke)
2. Michu (great celebration)
3. Dane Scarlett (never forget the 21/22 Spurs FM save)
Like if you can't separate the play from the player just don't bother with the list.
I'm not a Ronaldo fan boy, but anyone telling me that Ronaldo isn't top 2 BECAUSE he did an interview with Piers Morgan OR because you don't like him is being just as stupid as this list already was.
Football is about feelings to take their personality out of the equation is stupid as that has a direct tie to one’s contributions to the team and Ronaldos ego is toxic as he always projects it whenever he doesn’t get what he wants via united he doesn’t try to lift the teams spirit just out for himself and for that he does get some points docked😂
@@Damn-Sandwich and what you're saying is 100% valid - and not at all what they said. The things they mention are, "he's ugly", "he took his top off once to celebrate" and the Pier Morgan interview. None of which have ANYTHING to do with him on the field at all.
At that point, they may as well be saying Messi isn't the best player in the world because I don't like his haircut.
Kweku talks about Gerrard as if he’s won nothing in his whole career when the sad reality is that for his club he won every possible trophy except the league! If he had really “won nothing” as you say, we wouldn’t put him in the Gerrard/Lampard/Scholes debate. And for the love of god please don’t compare Harry Kane’s trophyless career to Steven Gerrard’s career…
Ronaldo isn't a better all time player than Maradona lmaooo, all he's better at is goalscoring
David Silva should be in over some of the names on the list, no busquets in criminal
It's easy to determine who's better out of Gerrard and Lampard. If you swapped them, who would do better for their respective teams? Lampard would not be carrying Djimi Traore and Igor Biscan at any point. Put Gerrard with Ballack, Essien, Mekele? Jesus Christ. They'd win everything
Gerrard shouldn't be on this list
@@csbdcsbd8728 mental illness is no laughing matter, as seen here.
"I don't do if, buts or maybes; I do absolutes"
he didn't do any of that, simple
Even though he had Lampard Jose tried to sign him 3 times. Says everything.
I think Gerrard was better than Lampard but Lampard would have laughed at the idea of joining Liverpool (if they could've afforded him at that time). So, what you've written says very little. Liverpool trying to sign Lampard would've been like Brighton trying to sign De Bruyne@@martinmcwilliams
I think the most important part to discuss isnt the list itself but the boundaries/what you take into account when making decisions. Is it purely ability? Because if so, the average premier league player is miles better than the stars of the 1950's - thats just how sport works.
Its impossible to compare and argue about player's when everyone is on a different page and is taking into account different things when making decisions. Then when you add the intangibles like how x player makes you feel when you watch them or how ronaldos antics have changed your opinion on him - the line becomes even blurrier. I think thats what Faysal was missing at the end when he couldnt believe ronaldo could be outside the top 2 😂
Stop talking about Scholes like that. Scholes is better than the two. He had everything these guys had, but was highly impactful. If you're talking about we mentioning what we saw actually, then nobody should watch the game and make analysis. You need to understand the game to be able to see some things.
And I can't understand how you put Ronaldo behind Maradona because of a Peirs Morgan interview... it's outrageous. Then Maradona shouldn't touch top 5 because he is there because of a World Cup won with a handball goal, come on...
Falcao shouldn't be on the list.
Nobody mentioned Buffon, Kahn, Batistuta or Nedved not being on the list?
Good discussion but the list is a joke.
Buffon is on the list
You're right my bad@@necropants9971
add clemence to that list and a whole host of other liverpool players
Fasal criteria had trophies in it and legacy, then he said ramos had a better legacy bc of what he achieved and won then there the same criteria 😂😂😂😂😂 tf is he on about. IMO perfect criteria is: Stats, Eye test, trophies, Clutch /iconic moments
Shearer not top 3 players. Top 3 strikers you can argue for but Henry and Rooney are both above him regardless.
I’m sorry, if you’ve watched the sport, the proper Ronaldo (R9) always comes above the irritating Ronaldo. All. Day. Long.
Controversial opinion here but Zidane is overrated. Huge moments and huge ability, but there’s a lot more players who were a lot more consistent. Up there with anyone for ability, but a lot of games passed him by, compared to someone like Xavi, Modric or Iniesta, who were the heartbeats of their teams each and every game
I never really understood the Neymar hype. I feel he was more of a celebrity than a football player. He never really developed as a player and ruined his career early on. He had potential at Santos and we saw small glimpses at Barca of what he really could become but he never really reached those limits. The hype in recent years about him being amongst the greats is overrated.
Arjen Robben, Ribbery, Mueller, Modric, Iniesta, Busquets, Xavi, Forlan, Tevez, Aguero, di Maria and Sneijder all had more successful careers than Neymar and should be ranked above him.
Completely agree 👍
That's true
HITC Sevens put out a good video on Neymar last week. His career stats are actually pretty good, and he's a great footballer. But everyone considers his career a flop because he never reached the expectations set on him - which was basically to become the best player in the world. He's also just not all that likeable, which doesn't help.
They did fair enough, the question is though - did Ronaldinho?
Forlan and Tevez?????????? What? What did they do? Neymars played in a shit Brazil, is still their all time top scorer, got a g/a a game in europe, had as much flair and skill as anyone ever like idk what more you really want from him. I understand people don’t like him cos of his antics, but I really disagree that he’s overrated. The only player I have higher out of the ones you mentioned is Xavi.
This is a terrible list and everyone involved in putting it together should be publicly shamed
the problem with this is list is that basically half the list is "who did well in international tournaments"
I can't remember when I realized JLA had the most ball knowledge on TH-cam
Not having Roberto Baggio in there is a crime against Italians. Totti is in there 😂
This list needs to be seperated into classical era and modern era, and then into forwards, midfielders and defenders (including goalkeepers.)
Where is Robben?
43
The Eusebio ranking on that list was genuinely just insulting. Easily in the conversation for top 10 all time
Top tier stuff from Faysal, amazing guy.
He's shocking
He's definitely better than Kweku (from watching sds regularly faysal is entertaining and knowledgeable in comparison to others in the football youtube industry) also I wouldn't bother listening to him when it comes to anything to do with Madrid because he lets bias get to him a bit too much when talking about Madrid@@hellosaysme08
Is this sarcasm?
Most jarring guest yet😂
Amazingly deluded, true. An utter lack of taste too but that's subjective.
The guy with a beard looks like a young John McCarthy 😂😂
These lists can be argued for days on on end but one thing never changes, that being leo messi at number 1. Like depending on what factors you judge players based on cristiano could be 2nd or 5th, but literally no one is above messi. To me that is insane
If this was a 3 hour episode i would have listened to it in one go... get Faysal back on
Who brought that bearded guy there? No disrespect, but c'mon. Ramos is not world class nor exceptional at pure defensive credentials. Nesta, Terry, Silva, and Terry are better. Baresi was actually a sweeper too.
wondering how many of these people James has managed to give covid to
Feel like it’s wild to knock Ronaldo for his personality and yet they ranked Maradona over Pele despite maradona having a lot of personal issues. Just whether you see them as a victim or not.
Salah is arguably one of the greatest African players of all time, should be there.
I feel that trophies won should play a very minor role when judging a player. Teams win trophies, not individuals. A player may have an impact on that achievement, but it is not an individual award.
Creating a list of fhe top 100 footballers of all time is probably the hardest thing someone can possibly do thats not academical 😂😂. Theres just too many different caveats to consider when making it, not to mention theres been so many professional footballers that the difference between 1st and 20th has to be minimal.
I already know this list is gonna miss so many players and disrespect so many older players
If you boys love Xavi so much, respect the man’s opinion. Xavi said that Scholes was the best midfielder in the world.
I can respect his opinion and still gladly say that Xavi is wrong in that assesment.
Scholes as good as he is, shouldn’t make the list ahead of someone like Pirlo, let alone ahead of the likes of Xavi, Iniesta and Zidane.
Scholes was quality though no question about it. I’d gladly take him if i couldn’t pick the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Zidane, Pirlo, Busquets and Modric.
No Busquets why even discuss this list
There’s a great clip going about recently of Scholes sorting the Gerrard or Scholes debate out for good 😂
100% agree with faysal, genuinely hate ronaldo, but there is no argument for him not to be 2
Kids today won't agree but Prime Robben 2012 - 2013 is far better than Neymar
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Liverpool fan here… couldn’t agree more! Sergio Ramos is just Gattuso with a hairband 😏 ☕️
What a bitter opinion
@@freerogertweedle3900true but others would say he's being kind.
@@freerogertweedle3900 😂😂😂
@@IMOReviewsyou are a virgin mate Ramos is better than your centre back stop being bitter And accept it you will live a happier life
Di Maria at 17 is mad, but saying Di Maria isn't too 100 is even worse. He has like 500 goals and assists FFS.
The neymar slander is wild too.
Jimmy Greaves not making this list is bad. Literally the top scorer in English football history.
How is di Maria at 17th haha
Ya I love Di Maria especially at Real Madrid he was insane, didn't watch much of him in PSG and with Argentina he was always the 2nd most clutch after Messi. But 17 is way too damn high. He should be at the end of the list.
@@tamim3319 shouldn’t even be on the list in my opinion
judging a "footballer" on an all time list of best footballers for something "outside of football" is astonishing, this is a list of the best footballers of all time, not the most likeable footballers of all time, u judge this by numbers, abilities, achievements, eye test, etc.
Thierry henry so low on this list is a bigger insult that the bullshit ballon dor he was robbed of
Thomas Muller at 27 is criminal
I knew this list was nonsense when Hazard and Bale are on it and John Barnes Ian Rush or Mo Salah are not on it.
Rooney? Salah? Fowler? Dalglish? Rush? Wrighty? Rio? Vidic? Busquets?
Ramos is the most clutch defender ever. In big games he is flawless.
And he didn’t just win with Madrid. He won with Spain too.
Where is Roberto Baggio? Shocking omission.
Fully agree with james' and Kweku's ronaldo takes. Personality is part of what makes someone great, its not just about raw skill
I think the problem with lists such as this one is that our generation (i‘m 25) hasn‘t really ever seen a lot of these players live. It therefore kind of has to rely on stats and achievements alone, when actually in my personal opinion the number one decider has to be eye-test. The reason Messi is the greater player than Ronaldo isn‘t the world cup or that his goals/assists per game is higher. It‘s watching him do shit that would be career defining moments for lesser (but still great) players on a game to game basis. Something nobody (i‘ve seen play) has ever even come close to.
Now just to clarify, ronaldo is a brilliant player and definitely has to be top 5, whether you like his persona or not. I just think the argument that those who prefer messi just hate his ego and are blinded by that hatred is utter bullshit. As I see it: If the balon d‘or were actually given to the best overall player in the world, not the trophy-winners and stat-dominators, messi would have won every one of them since 2009 except maybe in his first season at PSG.
it’s given based on yearly performance, so ronaldo still would have won 4-5 bc he slightly overperformed messi a few times. but messi would be close to 10. he was arguing that ronaldo should be top 2, not above messi, tho. it’s ridiculous to say “it’s all numbers” or “that 3 months brings him from 2nd to 4th”. almost like you’re on drugs. it’s crazy. bc ronaldo is quite literally one of the most impressive eye tests ever up until about 2019.
@@vewayy
Yes he outperformed Messi in some years on stats, but i‘ve never seen him outperform him in terms of playing the game allround, that‘s why i say that if being the best player were the criterion he would‘ve won it every year. It isn‘t tho because it‘s mostly about stats/trophies and only maybe then about overall play and impact (which is why midfielders and defenders rarely stand a chance). So by that measure sure, ronaldo would‘ve won his balon d‘ors, but i‘m speaking hypothetically if it went to best overall player.
Yet I agree that it‘s very harsh not having him in your top 3 or four, even including players like pele or maradona. From the players i‘ve personally witnessed playing he‘s definitely top two, i wouldn‘t really include those earlier players if i were to make a list because i‘ve only seen highlights.
Top 5 players are guys (forwards) who destroy perfect teams playing perfect football like Spain. They are the guys who win (and score) no matter what.
That list is shocking.