So as crappy as it is for them, it helps the community learn things to look out for. TFL has the "money" that commoners may not have. Having to spend $3,000 plus on a single repair would kill some people.
@@Tully3674 Suddenly I have a reinforced appreciation for living in Florida. My certificated master mechanic said he could do that job for $2,300 and still make great money!
I think this truck was fortunate to fall into the hands of people with the means and motivation to have it repaired. Far too few of these still on the road and it's always really nice to see one.
I bought the same truck new mine had the extended cab , put 140k on it in 13 years ,the longest time I've ever kept a vehicle . the only thing to go wrong on mine was the digital clock quit in the first couple of years , I noticed yours is still working . These are great trucks in my opinion .
Being from MN...which is a road salt state...engine repairs are far easier and probably cheaper than keeping rust at bay. Even with an engine problem, the body and chassis are so clean, it would sell up here quickly.
Try powerwashing every spring and fall(undercarriage)and then every fall coat your underside with fluid film very liberally. I grew up in Chicago and my uncle did the same with used transmission fluid until he switched to fluid film. Worked great. Zero rust
@@richfarfugnuven6308 I wash my car every two weeks in the winter to keep the road salt from eating away at the metal. I'm in Iowa just a state below from MN.
I love the Taco. My 2001 had 340k on it with all original and it still burned rubber. Sadly it was totalled after a head on into an embankment and rollover. But insurance still gave me $7,500 for the truck. Needless to say...I got a newer Taco.
Bucket shim adjustment on pre 2005 models is the reason they have issues, most people *don't know* it's an adjustable valvetrain, and that instead of getting loose, they go tight, and burn the valves. The 1ZZ EF and 2ZZ FE do the same thing. It's usually someone has already put a coil and a plug in it, and it still missfires. I need to set up shop in Colorado, their labor rate has got to be crowding $150/HR.
I appreciate TFL’s commitment to quality. In respect to the vehicles and their content. These presenters are so familiar and personable, they feel like friends.
You guys should put LC Engineering header on that. It was the best thing I did for my toy when I had it. I kept cracking the stock exhaust manifold from heat off road. And it eliminates 2 of the connections in the down pipe. It goes from the engine to the cat as one peace.
Toyota has a reputation for reliability and everything I'm just curious why most the people I know that drives them have trouble with them? I don't have alot of experience with them personally but what I've seen from people that have them doesn't match what the internet and rumors say. A guy I know always talks about how reliable Toyota is and there the best thing ever. I asked him what all he had to go bad on his tundra that's 10 years old he names off a few thousand dollars worth of things. That doesn't seem so great
A friend of mine has over 300,000 miles with only routine maintenance. Wear items like brakes, tires, bulbs, 1-clutch have been replaced as needed. Still running strong. He bought a 2.7 manual brand new and has no plans to replace it unless it gets stolen or totalled.
I have had 3 toyotas and 2 hondas and they have been amazing. You obviously have to do regular maintenance. Buying an old car of any make or model without knowing how the previous owners maintained it is always like playing Russian roulette.
Wait... WAIT!!! I thought Toyotas were super reliable and went like 500k miles with barely an oil change! Great episode, it shows that ALL vehicles have their issues... Even the all mighty yota.
It’s a 19yr old Ute ( sorry Aussie here ) ‘Truck’ ... yes it sucks but just think how good it will be after it’s fixed 🇦🇺🤙🏼 I have a v8 twin turbo diesel 200 series Landcruiser here as well and love it 2 bits 365,000km (227,000miles) on it now and still going strong
I owned a 2000 4Runner 3.4 2wd with 185k miles on it. Truck was never abused meticulously maintained and never overheated! Misfire symptoms slowly started to appear out of nowhere. Long story short it turned out I had a small fracture on one of the cylinder heads. Pulled them both out and replaced with rebuilt ones from a machine shop out of Texas after doing this job twice for trying to have the heads just rebuilt. Lesson learned! Total spent on job even after me listening to local shop to have them rebuilt was around $1700 with be Asin timing belt kit, idler, tensioner, thermostat, water pump etc. But all that labor was done by me in my home garage so I did not feel too bad and learned the engine inside out! These engines can be intimidating but are not that bad after you go over some videos or manual and buy one or two special tools that you will eventually reuse.
I have a 1999 3.4l Tacoma with 285k miles. About two years ago I needed a new head. A new head was going to cost me $1,600 here in Seattle. If the 2nd head was to fail soon after I'd be out $3,200. I elected to put in a used 3.4 from Japan. Guaranteed to have under 50,000 miles. That cost me $3,600. I feel good about that decision.
Toyotas last forever...except this one has a new frame, oh and a new valve train. If it were human it would have osteopetrosis and need open heart surgery. Glad it's fixed!
I'm starting to think Charlie had a new head and really wanted that Rocky. He sent the old head off for a valve job, and now still has a good head. Charlie is a smart cookie.
ran 100psi in cylinder 6 for over a year on my 350 vortec where the other cylinders were 150psi. Was still running strong where I did have a misfire every now and then, but still drove my truck all over the place and didn't fail a bit. $3500? WOW!
My 2003 2.7L is in the shop now for the exact problem, 213k miles but low compression on cylinder 2. $2500 versus a new $50k truck is not a bad deal. I opted to repair it.
Seems on par with the leaking valve cover job on my 2017 Tundra. Both valve covers were leaking, thankfully I have the extended warranty or I'd be paying out of pocket for 21 hours plus parts 😬
@@ChaoticDave69 oh crap sorry, valve cover* supposedly when Toyota switched to liquid gasket maker the machine wasn't applying a sufficient amount causing the seal to leak within 60k miles or less. They rectified the issue in 2018.
I've commented on this multiple times over the years but I really want to see TFL build up a 'cheap Jeep' 05-10 Grand Cherokee WK with the 5.7 Hemi and Quadra drive II. I've always believed that the toyota tax just isn't worth it. You started this tacoma series by saying these thing were bullet proof and then brought up the common frame rust issue and are now having engine issues. The WKs are depreciated to the point where you can get a very good condition one, with the full quadra drive offroad package (electronic locking F/C/R diffs and skid plates) and a Hemi V8, for well under $10k. I would even recommend a 'cheap Jeep' father son challenge with a WJ vs WK that could be very well built for under $10k each or compare it to your FJ cruiser. I'm biased since I own one, but I think the Hemi WK is an overlanding bargain and even with higher maintenance costs, overall cost of ownership is still less than a similar year toyota or wrangler. I love the offroad videos you produce and especially the cheaper off road builds, I been a TFL viewer for over 10 years now, keep up the great content!!
I love this truck. I can't wait for the auction to start. The bid will most likely go beyond what I want to pay but someone will be a very happy camper with this.
@@toycoma98 They talked about that at the beginning but then said they rebuilt their. Anyway yes mostlikely re-machining the valves would have done it and at worst replacing them. As a nice optional touch being their, re-machining anything necessary on the head could be great but we are still far off à 3500$ bill... Some details on what has been done would be great.
I do think the 3500 is a bit steep - but I'm certain it depends on where you live and if you have full confidence in that mechanic, then it is worth it. However as the owner of 2 Tacomas (2019 TRD Off Road with 91K miles and 2002 TRD Off Road with 240K miles), I have to say the $3500 is a small price to pay considering (other than basic maintenance) you will probably go another 200K miles with no issues. Our trucks see plenty of off road time (we own a horse farm) and the reliability of these little trucks is far better than the GMC/Ford trucks we have/had. BTW I love the topper on that little truck - very functional.
I’m at 260 on my 95 taco with a oil pump leak and it’s still running strong lol, I also got a starter problem with the connection plastic broken off got me stranded for like 3 hours till we figured it out lol A mechanic quoted me 900 for the oil pump fix I said I might as well get a engine rebuild I want my taco to go all the way up to 1000000
I bought a 2.7 Pre runner new in 2002 and drove for 185000 miles and never had to do one repair, only front brakes and fluid changes . Get a Tacoma if you can.
I betcha find out that the engine after your repair is still rough at idle with the transmission in drive. Remember that this is a 4 Cylinder 2.7 liter engine. While we don't think that 2.7 liters is large, for a 4 cylinder automotive engine, it is huge. With only two power pulses per crankshaft rotation, it is bound to vibrate. The 2.4 liter 4 cylinder version of this engine is far smoother with an automatic. When asked why he chose a 12 cylinder V12 2500 CC engine design for the 250 Testa Rosa ,the designer of Ferrari engines said that for maximum smoothness and power in a 4 cycle engine you should never exceed 400 CCs per cylinder. That said, any 4 Cylinder 4 cycle engine larger than 1600 CCs is a compromise. Think about what jewels 1600 CC 4 cylinder engines are. The 2.7 was a great engine hooked to a manual transmission. It had no load until you let out the clutch. Hooked to an Automatic transmission, not so great. As a customer relations manager, working in a Toyota dealership, I would try to steer purchasers into the V-6 if they had to have an automatic. I also trained our sales staff to do the same. We lost some sales to other dealers because of that. With 6 dealers in a 50 mile radius, I saw the results of this. People would want the 4 cylinder with an automatic in 2 wheel drive (2.4 liters) and they were great. But in 4 wheel drive 4 cylinder automatic customers were unhappy at how the engine felt sitting at a stoplight or stop sign in Drive. For a while, I would get customers who purchased a 4 Cylinder 4 X 4 automatic from another dealer and come into our dealership unhappy with their truck and I would have to try to handle them. All I could do was tell them; that was normal with this engine and the only answer was to shift into neutral or park when sitting at a stop light.. Needless to say they were not satisfied, but what could I say. I even had a customer that I spoke with when they were purchasing a 4 wheel drive and left our dealership as I would not sell them a 4 cylinder automatic. A month later they came into the dealership complaining that the 4 cylinder engine that they purchased from another dealer was really rough and demanded that we take care of it as the other dealer would not. Since I had spoken with them when they were purchasing it and would not sell them the 4 cylinder, it was easy to tell them that there was nothing we could do and I told them that when they were purchasing it. This was only customer complaint that I could not satisfy. Working with Toyota, we eventually solved it by taking his 4 Cylinder in trade for a v-6 3.4. We then wholesaled it to a used car lot in Wyoming. 2 years later Toyota solved the problem by only offering the automatic with the 3.4 V-6 in a 4x4 Mitsibushi tried to get around that by mounting 2 counter rotating balance shafts in the bottom of the engine on their 2.5 liter 4cylinder engine which caused other problems when the timing belt would skip a cog on the balance shafts which would then have the engine bouncing around under the hood like a crazed break dancer on acid. This could happen even though the timing belt was OK and the valve timing was not disturbed.
I had a 2001 that I purchased new in Charleston, SC. Every year I would visit my family in upstate NY at Christmas and noticed how much valve clatter I would hear in the NY cold weather. It would sound like a diesel when it was cold. Go back to Charleston and I would forget about it until the following year. Kept that truck for 6 years and 130k without a single issue.
I remember a lot of fans telling you : " why a Land Rover, you should buy a Toyota and bla, bla, bla". 🤣🤣🤣. Moral of the story: any old car could fail, it doesn't matter the brand. For me, the most important thing with old cars is the spare parts availability, and for that, american brands has no competition.
@@bobw9297 That motor is problematic. The 3.0 was a pile of crap. The 4.0 sounds awful. The electric actuated transfer case actuators fail regularly. The 3.5 pairs terribly with the auto in the new Tacomas and are always looking for the right gear. Almost all of the 4Runners and Tacomas lean to one side. The list goes on and on. They are still good vehicles, but people lie to themselves about how good they are.
@@sam_s_ true.. I also have a Ford van Ram pickup and old gmc pickup they all have there problems but you will never see a CVT on my land , that is junk ...
@@bobw9297 I agree 100%, no CVTs. That is pretty funny. I also have a 2017 Ram 1500 as my main personal vehicle and a Ford van (Transit) for work. I am just lacking the GMC. Edti: And if you count my girlfriend's 4Runner and my Tacoma, we also have 2 Toyotas. I will have to start looking for an old GMC.
I drive a 92 civic SI,put a new timing belt in a couple of years ago and at the time they checked compression, one cylinder was 100,2 were at 110 and last one was at 180. Did the work anyway because the car still ran great even with the 429 thousand kms on it. Drove it almost two more years and to 462 thousand until finally it was running on only 3 cylinders because compression got so low,drove it home 1100 kms from where I was working in northern British Columbia and it’s now sitting in driveway 🚗
Boulder is an expensive area. So when you add the costs to get it out do the job and put it back to the cost of all genuine Toyota parts I could see $3/3500.
Yeah I’m pretty disappointed in TFL, they totally got hosed. You could have easily taken that head to a good engine builder and had brand new seats put in, new stem seals, the whole nine yards, for 1/3rd of what they paid.
@@wildman1137 He is not a 'clown" just not familiar with today's insane prices. the average new US vehicle is $ 40K now.. You can sell your 3 years old Tacoma with 50K on it for $5 K less than what you paid for 3 years ago. But look up the old FORD Ranger's used price too.if you want a 4X4 nothing is cheap..Used prices are manipulated by the the different "book values" in N-America. Used prices are MUCH lower in Europe..
If you think you have the same problem before spending that money. buy some decarbon remover in a spray can. AC Delco is great. Sometimes a little bit of carbon on the valve seat will prevent full compression on a cylinder, causing a missfire and a shaky idle.
Love the series. I could use the black plastic at the bottom of the front bumper after you pull it. My son punted our 2004 into a snow bank after passing into a blizzard on the west side of the Eisenhower Tunnel.
Weird. That 3RZ is widely considered to be one of the most reliable engines that Toyota ever made. Guess it goes to show anything can break. My V6 4Runner with the 3.4 5VZ was running strong at 305k miles when I sold it. Good on you guys for fixing it though!
@@FarmerTed Of course I was just joking, but I do know a guy who drives nothing but Dodges and he told me that they never need oil changes. He said he just changes the filter and tops off the oil. He wasn't joking either.
The last two Totas my son had were both low compression on one cylinder. The true sing before he checked compression was the gear drop vibration. Driven easy they will go a long time. Drive them like a rental and they will get towed.
TOYOTA QUALITY!!! That truck must have **1 Million*187,000 miles** on it! It's not possible that a TOYOTA engine could fail at a measly 187,000 miles. Even LADA's last longer then that!
I recommend Engine Tune Ups every 30,000 -40,000 I have over 200,000 Miles On MY Tacoma Noticed Engine Tune Up, including a few upgrades The Truck will last a long time !!!
Hmm thats interesting cus I literally have the same truck and after the truck warms up the idle drops and the truck does have a rough idle at a stop light, it also does it when I put it in reverse. Might have to check my valves, thanks for the vid Kase and Tommy.
It would be interesting. I've taken my 4Runner to Charley's and they fixed a super obnoxious electrical problem with my headlights. He did it for a super reasonable price too.
toyota fanboys have driven up the value of used toyotas way beyond what they’re worth. They’ll get you to 200,000 miles, but anything beyond that is really just luck.
They have the least amount problems as they age when you compare to the rest. I still drive a 15 year old Camry SE trim model and pretty much everything still works for its age. Can't say the same for others.
@@adurpandya2742 My Tacoma was light years better than any GM or FORD pile of 💩💩💩💩 they sold me. Toyota made a fan boy out me because FORD and GM sure could not. My 88 Sierra spent more time at the dealer than I drove it. The 97 Taurus nearly broke me financially...with 2 engines and 3 transmissions. One head job on this Toyota is almost inconsequential.
Did you all not consider getting a JDM 2.7 or 3.4 swap into the truck? As I have several engine swapped JDM engine cars and they run like Tops and handle the added S/C’r without issues. You would only need a bridge harness from Toyonlyswaps, an ECU, and a harness from the recycler.
That is a pretty sweet truck Whoever gets it We'll be lucky . I picked up a four-wheel 95 Toyota Tacoma 6 months ago . She seems to be pretty sound, Garage kept For many years. She only has 86000 MI On her . I'm going to definitely Baby yet!
I have a 2002 Tacoma with the v six with just over 307,000 miles. I just had the same issue and had my head rebuilt just got it back on the road and it runs like it did when it was new.
My Ford 300 blew a head gasket around 220k. Since it had such high milage I went ahead and had the head rebuilt. Costed around $320 for the rebuild and head gasket. I did the rest of the labor myself. So $3,500 seems real steep. I know a shop has gotta make decent margins to stay operational but man that seems high priced.
Toyota isn’t better than the others. If they were they’d flaunt it all over advertisements with their own statistics. Instead they state they have a “reputation” for reliability.
350k miles on my 22re and 302k on my v6 with no engine work done. If you perform common maintenance and Keep up with valve jobs and other things that need to be done with the engines they will run. I’ve seen 3rz’s run too 380k with ZERO engine work and yet I see other trucks on marketplace blown up with less then 200k constantly.
@@buttslam1_140 I guess you don’t understand statistics. For example, I’ve known 3 people with over 300k mile Silverados and nothing more than maintenance and one made it to 450k before the engine went. My own Ram 2500 went to 330k mikes before the odometer broke and I sold it before anything ever went wrong with it outside one bad vacuum hose and a leaky hydraboost reservoir. . Toyota keeps data on their products, and they themselves don’t say their products are more reliable. They say others say their products are more reliable.
true to an extent, the big thing that people never did with these(which is why this video was made) was adjust the valves.the manual calls for checking clearances every 30-60k miles or thereabouts I believe. if you do that and adjust when necessary there is no need for a valve job.
@@fetcher321 luckily not. I’ve have to replace my timing chain and that’s it. And I did the Delete so there’s only one timing chain instead of 3. But ya shes been a great truck! I mainly use it for hunting now cause I bought a newer 4 door so she doesn’t get the full load anymore lol
Dude, you're dillusional. If they had to keep this truck in good operating condition out of their own pocket to replace the frame and now this $3k repair, they would have spent $15-$20k for a $5k truck. Put down the kool-aid
@@shiftmotorsports9803 Lol compare that do a Dodge/Chrysler/Fiat or your Ford, GM and Nissan. Toyota's statistically have the least amount of problems as they age. I still drive a 15 year old Camry se and everything works with 191k miles on it.
@@shiftmotorsports9803 if you think this is a 5K truck, you’re the delusional one. Put down the haterade and realize some vehicles are simply made better than others and have a well earned reputation. We don’t all have to be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers fans to realize they are excellent quarterbacks. Same with vehicles.
So...why do people say Tacomas are so great? You payed $7700 for an 18-year-old truck. This one has had the frame replaced and now the head replaced in 180,000 miles. I had a Chevy Tahoe that was the same age with the same number of miles and all that was ever replaced on it was the starter.🤣
The biggest problem in Toyota's of those years and often overlook is the valve springs if you measure the tension of the springs they are 47 pounds but after 80to 100 thousand miles they will be somewhere of 30 to 32 well below minimum specks I haven't found a machine shop that will take they time to measure springs they most of them just reassemble the head using the old springs
You have invested good money in this Tacoma, but of course Toyota parts are pretty expensive, mostly if you buy it through dealership. I have one Tacoma 96 2wd, I have changed a bunch of parts since I bought it 5 years ago, so I know dealerships are more than 6-7 times the cost of aftermarket parts, but fixing internal engine parts, there is the only option 👍🏼.
@@flight2k5 182 is very low for Toyota motors, most trucks will go that without any problems, Toyota’s easily reach 300k all day long...so I stand by what I said we see why Toyota got rid of theses engines, they just aren’t up to Toyota standards
This is why its important to check/adjust your valve lash. The 2.7 3RZ uses shims so people put it off and then you'll burn a valve. My 99 Tacoma has 330,000 on the original 2.7 engine.
Yeah that a tough pill to swallow.And like others I can’t see how this job cost $3500 but the 1st Gen Tacoma is a quality truck so I guess they figured it was worth it 🤷♂️
I'd like to see the actual estimate. I'm curious why it's so high. I'm guessing your head wasn't rebuilt and he actually bought a brand new head from Toyota. That would explain the high price.
Yeah my dad had this exact same thing done on his toyota and the shop charged $650 to remove and install the head and machine shop charged $300 to do a full valve job and plane the head true.
The Tacoma I had ten years ago had the same low compression problem. I found a cylinder head at a salvage yard for $100, took it to a retired Toyota mechanic, he rebuilt and machined the cylinder head for $450. A month later, I had him install the new cylinder head for $900. It was that cheap because I didn't need the repair right away... and I installed the water pump and thermostat myself. It's always a good idea to replace the thermostat and water pump if you're replacing the head gasket or removing the cylinder head. An overheating engine is a bitch!
Where’s all the Toyota fan boys preaching their reliability now? Saw a land cruiser broke down on the freeway this morning as well. Just goes to show, but what you like and maintain it properly and hope for the best 😂
Don't worry, the excuses are flowing strong. Of course if this had any other badge on the grill they'd all be here ranting about what a POS it was. Because there's no hater like a Toyota fanboi hater.
There's fan boys. If it was a Chevy with 180,000+ miles on it with this issue no way I'd say it was trash. By the way the little Tacoma didn't break down. It was still fully operational in year 20. But Toyotas are far from perfect. They just on average are less prone to major failures early in their lives. I could tell you plenty of stories of american vehicles crapping out well under 100,000 miles. I work with a lady who's husband tows boats for a living. On his heavy duty Chevrolet truck he's had to have it in the shop for significant repairs 3 times already (went into limp mode the other day) and it's only 2 years old. He drives it of course but all highway miles and always keeps up with maintenance. Really shouldn't be the case.
@@ShawDAMAN Of course - no brand is immune from issues but somehow the toyota bois are the worst about preaching how toyota is god and everything else is crap. There can be no compromise. Any logical person knows a used car is more about who owned it than who built it, but if there's so much as a light out on any other brand they seize on that and shout "what a POS!" while ignoring their own problems.
@@donhappel9566 I think there's a lot of truth to that but I would say the make is still significant. I don't care how often you change the fluids on a land rover or a fiat its almost certainly still going to have more issues after 100k than a Toyota or Honda with comparable maintenance (or for that matter, a Ford.) Maybe Toyota fanboys are worse. Other manufactures have their irrational adherents too. You don't hear Chevy/ford/dodge guys screaming about reliability though... That isn't why you buy one of those vehicles and most of their owners realize it and are willing to put up with the likelihood of some less 'bulletproof' designs and build quality for other reasons. There's a reason why Toyotas have the (albeit exaggerated) reputation that they do. I've owned two of them myself (as well as 2 other brands.) I prefer the Asian makes but I'm not blind. I owned a Honda Civic ("they run forever!") That had catastrophic transmission failure at 89,000 miles lol.
You should also freshen up the rest of the engine while you are at the shop. The better compression of a valve job will accelerate the wear on the higher mileage rest of the engine . You will end up money ahead in the end. And the dependability will be much longer with a totally freshened engine.
Another awesome video from Kase and Tommy !
Always look forward to these guys on Saturday mornings.
Knock knock...
Who’s there?
Cylinder Three :-(
Well, look on the bright side!
At least it wasn't Rodney.
So as crappy as it is for them, it helps the community learn things to look out for. TFL has the "money" that commoners may not have. Having to spend $3,000 plus on a single repair would kill some people.
They didn't spend $3k for the repair. They Traded the mechanic a vehicle for the repair. Plus, the mechanic paid TFL $1k.
@@theylied1776 they should use that 1k for new tires 🤣
@@theylied1776 The repair was quoted as $3.5K, and that’s what the value of the trade was
3.5 k is still cheaper then a new car!
The "upside" to having a small fleet of vehicles, sometimes all you need is a little "horse trading" to come out ahead. :)
3500 dollars for a valve job on a 4 cylinder?!! Remind me NOT to have any work done in Colorado!
That same job would easily cost $5,000 at an independent mechanic in Los Angeles.
@@Tully3674
Suddenly I have a reinforced appreciation for living in Florida.
My certificated master mechanic said he could do that job for $2,300 and still make great money!
@@Tully3674 500/ hour labor lol
I had to have the valves done in my 05 pilot 3 times. It only cost 1200 on the v6.
@@stout_tossme7541
That's not a great argument. One could say that for 1200 bucks it wasn't done right and that's why it had to be done 3 times!
Case is in the backround whispering, "it's called a valve job!" "Valve Job!" 😂😂😂😂😂
I’m thinkin this tacoma needs a black top 4AGE
I think this truck was fortunate to fall into the hands of people with the means and motivation to have it repaired. Far too few of these still on the road and it's always really nice to see one.
I bought the same truck new mine had the extended cab , put 140k on it in 13 years ,the longest time I've ever kept a vehicle . the only thing to go wrong on mine was the digital clock quit in the first couple of years , I noticed yours is still working . These are great trucks in my opinion .
Being from MN...which is a road salt state...engine repairs are far easier and probably cheaper than keeping rust at bay. Even with an engine problem, the body and chassis are so clean, it would sell up here quickly.
Try powerwashing every spring and fall(undercarriage)and then every fall coat your underside with fluid film very liberally. I grew up in Chicago and my uncle did the same with used transmission fluid until he switched to fluid film. Worked great. Zero rust
@@richfarfugnuven6308 I wash my car every two weeks in the winter to keep the road salt from eating away at the metal. I'm in Iowa just a state below from MN.
@@eman0828 make sure you get the underside powerwashed really well.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 Yeah I do that all the time. Most people miss that.
@@eman0828 I bought an attachment for my powerwasher that slides around under my car and sprays straight up.
I had my 01 done at 215k and it was only around $1500, and traded it in at 280k
My 2000 Taco 2.4 had the same thing at 198k. Rebuilt with Toyota parts. Still driving at @240k. love this truck.
I love the Taco. My 2001 had 340k on it with all original and it still burned rubber. Sadly it was totalled after a head on into an embankment and rollover. But insurance still gave me $7,500 for the truck. Needless to say...I got a newer Taco.
Has the frame starting Rusting on yur cheap Toyota Import?
@@toddbob55 Mine hasn't......and I bought my 1st gen Tacoma 4x4 back in 2000.
Bucket shim adjustment on pre 2005 models is the reason they have issues, most people *don't know* it's an adjustable valvetrain, and that instead of getting loose, they go tight, and burn the valves. The 1ZZ EF and 2ZZ FE do the same thing. It's usually someone has already put a coil and a plug in it, and it still missfires. I need to set up shop in Colorado, their labor rate has got to be crowding $150/HR.
I appreciate TFL’s commitment to quality. In respect to the vehicles and their content. These presenters are so familiar and personable, they feel like friends.
You guys should put LC Engineering header on that. It was the best thing I did for my toy when I had it. I kept cracking the stock exhaust manifold from heat off road. And it eliminates 2 of the connections in the down pipe. It goes from the engine to the cat as one peace.
The 2004 came with a header stock.
Toyota has a reputation for reliability and everything I'm just curious why most the people I know that drives them have trouble with them? I don't have alot of experience with them personally but what I've seen from people that have them doesn't match what the internet and rumors say. A guy I know always talks about how reliable Toyota is and there the best thing ever. I asked him what all he had to go bad on his tundra that's 10 years old he names off a few thousand dollars worth of things. That doesn't seem so great
A friend of mine has over 300,000 miles with only routine maintenance. Wear items like brakes, tires, bulbs, 1-clutch have been replaced as needed. Still running strong. He bought a 2.7 manual brand new and has no plans to replace it unless it gets stolen or totalled.
I have had 3 toyotas and 2 hondas and they have been amazing. You obviously have to do regular maintenance. Buying an old car of any make or model without knowing how the previous owners maintained it is always like playing Russian roulette.
Wait... WAIT!!! I thought Toyotas were super reliable and went like 500k miles with barely an oil change! Great episode, it shows that ALL vehicles have their issues... Even the all mighty yota.
It really just depends on how well maintained the vehicle was. A lot of people neglect their vehicles
Wow. You could have bought a 1998, Chevy Cheyenne 4wd 305ci V8 access cab truck with 200k miles for that.
😂😂😂😂
And it runs!
Probably will need a job also lol
It’s a 19yr old Ute ( sorry Aussie here ) ‘Truck’ ... yes it sucks but just think how good it will be after it’s fixed 🇦🇺🤙🏼
I have a v8 twin turbo diesel 200 series Landcruiser here as well and love it 2 bits
365,000km (227,000miles) on it now and still going strong
I’m going to miss the Rocky. But at least the engine problem is fixed
Love the addition of Kase, you guys. He’s polished and takes TFL to the next level.
I owned a 2000 4Runner 3.4 2wd with 185k miles on it. Truck was never abused meticulously maintained and never overheated! Misfire symptoms slowly started to appear out of nowhere. Long story short it turned out I had a small fracture on one of the cylinder heads. Pulled them both out and replaced with rebuilt ones from a machine shop out of Texas after doing this job twice for trying to have the heads just rebuilt. Lesson learned! Total spent on job even after me listening to local shop to have them rebuilt was around $1700 with be Asin timing belt kit, idler, tensioner, thermostat, water pump etc. But all that labor was done by me in my home garage so I did not feel too bad and learned the engine inside out! These engines can be intimidating but are not that bad after you go over some videos or manual and buy one or two special tools that you will eventually reuse.
Just got my 2002 manual back on the road, 140k miles. Had to patch the frame but she’s running great after sitting for 3 years.
I have a 1999 3.4l Tacoma with 285k miles. About two years ago I needed a new head. A new head was going to cost me $1,600 here in Seattle.
If the 2nd head was to fail soon after I'd be out $3,200.
I elected to put in a used 3.4 from Japan. Guaranteed to have under 50,000 miles.
That cost me $3,600. I feel good about that decision.
Toyotas last forever...except this one has a new frame, oh and a new valve train. If it were human it would have osteopetrosis and need open heart surgery. Glad it's fixed!
I'm confused. He rebuilt the head? I would figure the head would be brought to a machine shop for seats and guides ect. 🤔
I'm confused as well, what was the second head for if they had it rebuilt?
I'm starting to think Charlie had a new head and really wanted that Rocky. He sent the old head off for a valve job, and now still has a good head. Charlie is a smart cookie.
ran 100psi in cylinder 6 for over a year on my 350 vortec where the other cylinders were 150psi. Was still running strong where I did have a misfire every now and then, but still drove my truck all over the place and didn't fail a bit. $3500? WOW!
Seeing those three wipers made me miss my fj.
Darn, I wanted to see more of the Rocky
Me too
Daihatsu has some other little jeepies too. Such as Terios
Me too
Glad to see there are others
Mee too 😁
My 2003 2.7L is in the shop now for the exact problem, 213k miles but low compression on cylinder 2. $2500 versus a new $50k truck is not a bad deal. I opted to repair it.
Seems on par with the leaking valve cover job on my 2017 Tundra. Both valve covers were leaking, thankfully I have the extended warranty or I'd be paying out of pocket for 21 hours plus parts 😬
What the heck is a valve tower ??
@@ChaoticDave69 oh crap sorry, valve cover* supposedly when Toyota switched to liquid gasket maker the machine wasn't applying a sufficient amount causing the seal to leak within 60k miles or less. They rectified the issue in 2018.
@@Misiekgren got it figured it was a typo . Lol
I've commented on this multiple times over the years but I really want to see TFL build up a 'cheap Jeep' 05-10 Grand Cherokee WK with the 5.7 Hemi and Quadra drive II. I've always believed that the toyota tax just isn't worth it. You started this tacoma series by saying these thing were bullet proof and then brought up the common frame rust issue and are now having engine issues. The WKs are depreciated to the point where you can get a very good condition one, with the full quadra drive offroad package (electronic locking F/C/R diffs and skid plates) and a Hemi V8, for well under $10k. I would even recommend a 'cheap Jeep' father son challenge with a WJ vs WK that could be very well built for under $10k each or compare it to your FJ cruiser. I'm biased since I own one, but I think the Hemi WK is an overlanding bargain and even with higher maintenance costs, overall cost of ownership is still less than a similar year toyota or wrangler. I love the offroad videos you produce and especially the cheaper off road builds, I been a TFL viewer for over 10 years now, keep up the great content!!
Clearly charity doesn't start at Charlie's repair shop If he burned you for $3500. 😀
Yeah what the hell what a rip off
@@ChaoticDave69 3500 for a head job seems a little steep IMO....
I love this truck. I can't wait for the auction to start. The bid will most likely go beyond what I want to pay but someone will be a very happy camper with this.
3500$ for a valve job ??? Seems a lot to me !
No one said they are smart. You can buy a new engine for $3500
@@thejuiceisloose8703 - a new Toyota crate engine? I’d bet just the short block is more than that if still available.
@@thejuiceisloose8703 maybe not a brand new one but easily find a rebuilt one with OEM parts.
They replaced the head. But yeah, it just needed valve job which would be way less. They got ripped off.
@@toycoma98 They talked about that at the beginning but then said they rebuilt their.
Anyway yes mostlikely re-machining the valves would have done it and at worst replacing them.
As a nice optional touch being their, re-machining anything necessary on the head could be great but we are still far off à 3500$ bill...
Some details on what has been done would be great.
I do think the 3500 is a bit steep - but I'm certain it depends on where you live and if you have full confidence in that mechanic, then it is worth it. However as the owner of 2 Tacomas (2019 TRD Off Road with 91K miles and 2002 TRD Off Road with 240K miles), I have to say the $3500 is a small price to pay considering (other than basic maintenance) you will probably go another 200K miles with no issues. Our trucks see plenty of off road time (we own a horse farm) and the reliability of these little trucks is far better than the GMC/Ford trucks we have/had. BTW I love the topper on that little truck - very functional.
I’m at 260 on my 95 taco with a oil pump leak and it’s still running strong lol,
I also got a starter problem with the connection plastic broken off got me stranded for like 3 hours till we figured it out lol
A mechanic quoted me 900 for the oil pump fix I said I might as well get a engine rebuild I want my taco to go all the way up to 1000000
That's the problem with a used Toyota. Previous owner was a Toyota person aka never change the oil, never service it on schedule.
Im a Toyota owner and i maintain my truck very well so...
Im a Toyota owner and i maintain my truck very well so...
I have the same exact truck with 270 k and it runs perfect
I have the same truck as well. Have the valves on your truck ever been checked/adjusted?
@@fetcher321 I just got it this summer so I don't know but it runs smooth and gets good mileage
Thanks for keeping things honest with cost and such. :)
I bought a 2.7 Pre runner new in 2002 and drove for 185000 miles and never had to do one repair, only front brakes and fluid changes . Get a Tacoma if you can.
I betcha find out that the engine after your repair is still rough at idle with the transmission in drive. Remember that this is a 4 Cylinder 2.7 liter engine. While we don't think that 2.7 liters is large, for a 4 cylinder automotive engine, it is huge. With only two power pulses per crankshaft rotation, it is bound to vibrate. The 2.4 liter 4 cylinder version of this engine is far smoother with an automatic.
When asked why he chose a 12 cylinder V12 2500 CC engine design for the 250 Testa Rosa ,the designer of Ferrari engines said that for maximum smoothness and power in a 4 cycle engine you should never exceed 400 CCs per cylinder. That said, any 4 Cylinder 4 cycle engine larger than 1600 CCs is a compromise. Think about what jewels 1600 CC 4 cylinder engines are.
The 2.7 was a great engine hooked to a manual transmission. It had no load until you let out the clutch. Hooked to an Automatic transmission, not so great. As a customer relations manager, working in a Toyota dealership, I would try to steer purchasers into the V-6 if they had to have an automatic. I also trained our sales staff to do the same. We lost some sales to other dealers because of that. With 6 dealers in a 50 mile radius, I saw the results of this. People would want the 4 cylinder with an automatic in 2 wheel drive (2.4 liters) and they were great. But in 4 wheel drive 4 cylinder automatic customers were unhappy at how the engine felt sitting at a stoplight or stop sign in Drive. For a while, I would get customers who purchased a 4 Cylinder 4 X 4 automatic from another dealer and come into our dealership unhappy with their truck and I would have to try to handle them. All I could do was tell them; that was normal with this engine and the only answer was to shift into neutral or park when sitting at a stop light.. Needless to say they were not satisfied, but what could I say. I even had a customer that I spoke with when they were purchasing a 4 wheel drive and left our dealership as I would not sell them a 4 cylinder automatic. A month later they came into the dealership complaining that the 4 cylinder engine that they purchased from another dealer was really rough and demanded that we take care of it as the other dealer would not. Since I had spoken with them when they were purchasing it and would not sell them the 4 cylinder, it was easy to tell them that there was nothing we could do and I told them that when they were purchasing it. This was only customer complaint that I could not satisfy. Working with Toyota, we eventually solved it by taking his 4 Cylinder in trade for a v-6 3.4. We then wholesaled it to a used car lot in Wyoming.
2 years later Toyota solved the problem by only offering the automatic with the 3.4 V-6 in a 4x4
Mitsibushi tried to get around that by mounting 2 counter rotating balance shafts in the bottom of the engine on their 2.5 liter 4cylinder engine which caused other problems when the timing belt would skip a cog on the balance shafts which would then have the engine bouncing around under the hood like a crazed break dancer on acid. This could happen even though the timing belt was OK and the valve timing was not disturbed.
That makes a lot of sense!!! I see why people swap for 2.4l or v6. I have a taco 4x4 that the previous owner swapped a 2.4 into it.
I had a 2001 that I purchased new in Charleston, SC. Every year I would visit my family in upstate NY at Christmas and noticed how much valve clatter I would hear in the NY cold weather. It would sound like a diesel when it was cold. Go back to Charleston and I would forget about it until the following year. Kept that truck for 6 years and 130k without a single issue.
I remember a lot of fans telling you : " why a Land Rover, you should buy a Toyota and bla, bla, bla". 🤣🤣🤣. Moral of the story: any old car could fail, it doesn't matter the brand. For me, the most important thing with old cars is the spare parts availability, and for that, american brands has no competition.
This. F150's and Silverados in particular. It is stupid easy to keep them going as even classic parts are kept in stock at the stores
@@alphaclean3364 sure. In my case my oldest car is a 1988 Monte Carlo LS and I can get everything and with a good price. Greetings
We had the same truck new and after the second head was replaced under warranty we got rid of it ,
It's almost like even the mighty Toyota isn't infallible. I a surprised the Toyota fanboy weirdos aren't accusing you of making that up.
No its true , I still have 2 Toyotas Its just that motor was problematic
@@bobw9297 That motor is problematic. The 3.0 was a pile of crap. The 4.0 sounds awful. The electric actuated transfer case actuators fail regularly. The 3.5 pairs terribly with the auto in the new Tacomas and are always looking for the right gear. Almost all of the 4Runners and Tacomas lean to one side. The list goes on and on. They are still good vehicles, but people lie to themselves about how good they are.
@@sam_s_ true.. I also have a Ford van Ram pickup and old gmc pickup they all have there problems but you will never see a CVT on my land , that is junk ...
@@bobw9297 I agree 100%, no CVTs. That is pretty funny. I also have a 2017 Ram 1500 as my main personal vehicle and a Ford van (Transit) for work. I am just lacking the GMC.
Edti: And if you count my girlfriend's 4Runner and my Tacoma, we also have 2 Toyotas. I will have to start looking for an old GMC.
I drive a 92 civic SI,put a new timing belt in a couple of years ago and at the time they checked compression, one cylinder was 100,2 were at 110 and last one was at 180. Did the work anyway because the car still ran great even with the 429 thousand kms on it. Drove it almost two more years and to 462 thousand until finally it was running on only 3 cylinders because compression got so low,drove it home 1100 kms from where I was working in northern British Columbia and it’s now sitting in driveway 🚗
Great stuff! I'm so glad for the budget that y'all were able to work something out.
That is a good looking truck I'm glad it came to you guys to save it from the junkyard.
Rebuilt heads are 6-700.00...3500.00? That’s a crate engine...
Maybe it was way cheaper but they needed that reality tv drama for views.
Boulder is an expensive area. So when you add the costs to get it out do the job and put it back to the cost of all genuine Toyota parts I could see $3/3500.
I’d love to find someone near me that could rebuild heads for $650
Yeah I’m pretty disappointed in TFL, they totally got hosed. You could have easily taken that head to a good engine builder and had brand new seats put in, new stem seals, the whole nine yards, for 1/3rd of what they paid.
So what was the labor rate? $500 an hour?! A rebuilt head job shouldn't be but $1500.
Exactly.....
Probably did timing chain , water pump and head gasket obviously while in there
Probably a specialist in Toyota
It's japanese crap you clown. Everything is more expensive, especially a cylinder head rebuild/replacement.
@@wildman1137 He is not a 'clown" just not familiar with today's insane prices. the average new US vehicle is $ 40K now.. You can sell your 3 years old Tacoma with 50K on it for $5 K less than what you paid for 3 years ago. But look up the old FORD Ranger's used price too.if you want a 4X4 nothing is cheap..Used prices are manipulated by the the different "book values" in N-America. Used prices are MUCH lower in Europe..
Well worth restoring it with genuine Toyota parts. Nice job!
They got ripped off by about $1500
@@ricksmith7659 lmao 🤣
If you think you have the same problem before spending that money. buy some decarbon remover in a spray can. AC Delco is great. Sometimes a little bit of carbon on the valve seat will prevent full compression on a cylinder, causing a missfire and a shaky idle.
Love the series. I could use the black plastic at the bottom of the front bumper after you pull it. My son punted our 2004 into a snow bank after passing into a blizzard on the west side of the Eisenhower Tunnel.
I cry a tear for the Rocky glad you went to a good home.
thx for giving the numbers. some ppl won't say $
A head job huh? I understand. Sometimes I need one of those as well
Weird. That 3RZ is widely considered to be one of the most reliable engines that Toyota ever made. Guess it goes to show anything can break. My V6 4Runner with the 3.4 5VZ was running strong at 305k miles when I sold it. Good on you guys for fixing it though!
I thought Toyotas didn't even need an oil change until one million miles. Someone must have deliberately done this.
It’s actually 1,500,000 miles
LOL I guess I should have researched it more.
42,000 miles our dealership got a warranty return on a doctors Toyota and found he had never changed the oil. Yeah a doctor.
@@FarmerTed Of course I was just joking, but I do know a guy who drives nothing but Dodges and he told me that they never need oil changes. He said he just changes the filter and tops off the oil. He wasn't joking either.
The last two Totas my son had were both low compression on one cylinder. The true sing before he checked compression was the gear drop vibration. Driven easy they will go a long time. Drive them like a rental and they will get towed.
TOYOTA QUALITY!!! That truck must have **1 Million*187,000 miles** on it! It's not possible that a TOYOTA engine could fail at a measly 187,000 miles. Even LADA's last longer then that!
It didn’t fail at all it just got a valve adjustment lol
I recommend Engine Tune Ups every 30,000 -40,000 I have over 200,000 Miles On MY Tacoma Noticed Engine Tune Up, including a few upgrades The Truck will last a long time !!!
Hmm thats interesting cus I literally have the same truck and after the truck warms up the idle drops and the truck does have a rough idle at a stop light, it also does it when I put it in reverse. Might have to check my valves, thanks for the vid Kase and Tommy.
Get it diagnosed properly with a top end leak down test.
Idle air control needs to be cleaned. Trust me.
Wayne S. Everything has been checked except the motor, did a compression test when I first got her and it was solid.
@@yotagang3705 checked by who though?
can you do a video on Charles shop and his story you never really see shop dedicated to Toyotas lol
The toyota maintenance youtube channel is pretty great
It would be interesting. I've taken my 4Runner to Charley's and they fixed a super obnoxious electrical problem with my headlights. He did it for a super reasonable price too.
Tommy, you're wrong. All Toyotas everywhere, are so reliable that they never have issues and never need work. Lol
It’s also 19 years old 🤷🏽♂️
@@johnjpa808 he just mad that his fiat ram or whatever won’t make it as far as this truck has.
toyota fanboys have driven up the value of used toyotas way beyond what they’re worth. They’ll get you to 200,000 miles, but anything beyond that is really just luck.
They have the least amount problems as they age when you compare to the rest. I still drive a 15 year old Camry SE trim model and pretty much everything still works for its age. Can't say the same for others.
@@adurpandya2742 My Tacoma was light years better than any GM or FORD pile of 💩💩💩💩 they sold me. Toyota made a fan boy out me because FORD and GM sure could not. My 88 Sierra spent more time at the dealer than I drove it. The 97 Taurus nearly broke me financially...with 2 engines and 3 transmissions. One head job on this Toyota is almost inconsequential.
Did you all not consider getting a JDM 2.7 or 3.4 swap into the truck? As I have several engine swapped JDM engine cars and they run like Tops and handle the added S/C’r without issues. You would only need a bridge harness from Toyonlyswaps, an ECU, and a harness from the recycler.
That is a pretty sweet truck Whoever gets it We'll be lucky . I picked up a four-wheel 95 Toyota Tacoma 6 months ago . She seems to be pretty sound, Garage kept For many years. She only has 86000 MI On her . I'm going to definitely Baby yet!
I have a 2002 Tacoma with the v six with just over 307,000 miles. I just had the same issue and had my head rebuilt just got it back on the road and it runs like it did when it was new.
@TFLClassics... i think its about time you guys do a build and provide to a vet!
Actually the rest of the truck is nice enough that getting the cylinder head done is okay.
My Ford 300 blew a head gasket around 220k. Since it had such high milage I went ahead and had the head rebuilt. Costed around $320 for the rebuild and head gasket. I did the rest of the labor myself. So $3,500 seems real steep. I know a shop has gotta make decent margins to stay operational but man that seems high priced.
What did the rest of the labor include?
05+ Tacoma’s have hydronic last adjustment for those valves!
Toyota isn’t better than the others. If they were they’d flaunt it all over advertisements with their own statistics. Instead they state they have a “reputation” for reliability.
350k miles on my 22re and 302k on my v6 with no engine work done. If you perform common maintenance and Keep up with valve jobs and other things that need to be done with the engines they will run. I’ve seen 3rz’s run too 380k with ZERO engine work and yet I see other trucks on marketplace blown up with less then 200k constantly.
@@buttslam1_140 I guess you don’t understand statistics. For example, I’ve known 3 people with over 300k mile Silverados and nothing more than maintenance and one made it to 450k before the engine went. My own Ram 2500 went to 330k mikes before the odometer broke and I sold it before anything ever went wrong with it outside one bad vacuum hose and a leaky hydraboost reservoir.
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Toyota keeps data on their products, and they themselves don’t say their products are more reliable. They say others say their products are more reliable.
Yup 2.7 just werent the same quality as the 3.4
true to an extent, the big thing that people never did with these(which is why this video was made) was adjust the valves.the manual calls for checking clearances every 30-60k miles or thereabouts I believe. if you do that and adjust when necessary there is no need for a valve job.
Moral to the story you always do a PPI !! I had to learn the hard way 20 yrs ago. lol
Japanese do not keep vehicles with over 100,000 miles on them. They drive them straight to the junkyard.
My 99 head gasket just blew. More than likely dropping in an entire new motor from a donor taco
I got a 98', extra cab, 2.7L with a Supercharger. Now it has guts going uphill.
My silver02 single cab has 365000 miles on it lol my dad bought it new and I bought it from him with 230000 for 3 grand lol great trucks
Those years were the best. The interior is something to laugh about but the rest is pretty solid. Too bad chevy is junk now
@@alexgarcia3900 it’s a silver 02 tacoma but I feel ya about the chevys
@@jimmydelozier6177 oh lol. For some reason I thought you meant a Silverado lol. Yeah man nice trucks for sure
I have the very same truck that I bought new. 68K miles on it. Have the valves on your truck ever been checked/adjusted?
@@fetcher321 luckily not. I’ve have to replace my timing chain and that’s it. And I did the Delete so there’s only one timing chain instead of 3. But ya shes been a great truck! I mainly use it for hunting now cause I bought a newer 4 door so she doesn’t get the full load anymore lol
The 3.4 motor is much more reliable and a ton more power.
I was wondering about the Rocky the other day. I guess that answers my question.
All vehicles need maintenance; they’re complex mechanical systems.
The difference with Toyota’s is that you are rarely throwing good money after bad.
Dude, you're dillusional. If they had to keep this truck in good operating condition out of their own pocket to replace the frame and now this $3k repair, they would have spent $15-$20k for a $5k truck. Put down the kool-aid
@@shiftmotorsports9803 Lol compare that do a Dodge/Chrysler/Fiat or your Ford, GM and Nissan. Toyota's statistically have the least amount of problems as they age. I still drive a 15 year old Camry se and everything works with 191k miles on it.
@@shiftmotorsports9803 if you think this is a 5K truck, you’re the delusional one. Put down the haterade and realize some vehicles are simply made better than others and have a well earned reputation. We don’t all have to be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers fans to realize they are excellent quarterbacks. Same with vehicles.
I agree - you can make any vehicle last if you’re willing to pump the money into it...depends how much you love it
@@shiftmotorsports9803 Toyota paid for the frame replacements so the frame issue was an inconvience rather than an expense.
So...why do people say Tacomas are so great? You payed $7700 for an 18-year-old truck. This one has had the frame replaced and now the head replaced in 180,000 miles. I had a Chevy Tahoe that was the same age with the same number of miles and all that was ever replaced on it was the starter.🤣
Are you gonna tell us about the FJ Cruiser that you drove over to the shop?
Mine fail at 300k miles, new head, new timing chain kit and did the job myself watching TH-cam videos!! It came out perfect 🔥😎🔥
$3500? 🤣📢HAHAHAHAHA
Maybe 1k at most.
Bold of him to own a Toyota repair shop
$1000/year maintenance is a normal cost of ownership. Some years less some years more.
That was my 2005 F150
The biggest problem in Toyota's of those years and often overlook is the valve springs if you measure the tension of the springs they are 47 pounds but after 80to 100 thousand miles they will be somewhere of 30 to 32 well below minimum specks I haven't found a machine shop that will take they time to measure springs they most of them just reassemble the head using the old springs
Just needed a valve job, what did you spend the other $2500 on?
Sucker fee.
Hookers and blow
These idiots traded a perfectly good Rocky for a simple 4 cylinder head replacement. They clearly know nothing about cars other then dealer specs
You have invested good money in this Tacoma, but of course Toyota parts are pretty expensive, mostly if you buy it through dealership. I have one Tacoma 96 2wd, I have changed a bunch of parts since I bought it 5 years ago, so I know dealerships are more than 6-7 times the cost of aftermarket parts, but fixing internal engine parts, there is the only option 👍🏼.
Now we see why Toyota ditched those motors
🤣😂 huh? It has 182000 unknown miles on it.
@@flight2k5 182 is very low for Toyota motors, most trucks will go that without any problems, Toyota’s easily reach 300k all day long...so I stand by what I said we see why Toyota got rid of theses engines, they just aren’t up to Toyota standards
@@scotturich once again. UNKNOWN miles. Who knows how the engine was taken care of be previous owner/ owners
2rz/3rz was around 1996-2004, thats a pretty long time. My 2rz has 190,000 miles with a turbo and it still runs good.
They still make the 2.7 for the Tacoma
This is why its important to check/adjust your valve lash. The 2.7 3RZ uses shims so people put it off and then you'll burn a valve. My 99 Tacoma has 330,000 on the original 2.7 engine.
3500 is a burn.
Yeah that a tough pill to swallow.And like others I can’t see how this job cost $3500 but the 1st Gen Tacoma is a quality truck so I guess they figured it was worth it 🤷♂️
That's all I want is a 4 door 4X4 manuel.with that's lift and canvas top😍
from Fraser, husband of Leslie
And there I was reading all these TH-cam videos where everybody says "buy a Toyota, they go for ever".Or maybe not !
Should have sent that head to Viecomer in Portugal and got beryllium seats put in with Titanium valves and a full CNC port job with dimpling.
I'd like to see the actual estimate. I'm curious why it's so high. I'm guessing your head wasn't rebuilt and he actually bought a brand new head from Toyota. That would explain the high price.
Exactly.... I was thinking more around the 1500 dollar mark haha 3500!! Thats nuts lol
Toyota doesn't sell brand new heads for these & hasn't in years. LC engineering does though. They paid toyota for the rights to produce them.
Did you watched the video? Your answer is there
@@RagingBad They said is was rebuilt. My post is obviously questioning that, since we never saw an actual invoice.
@@waynes.2983 they do, I'm on their site right now and a new complete head is $1150. $3500 is a ripoff.
$3500? That sounds crazy high!
Yeah, this isn’t a BMW or something.
I appreciate that they gave the real retail price...
Yeah my dad had this exact same thing done on his toyota and the shop charged $650 to remove and install the head and machine shop charged $300 to do a full valve job and plane the head true.
@@kimoandrews5802 You mean gouge price.
The Tacoma I had ten years ago had the same low compression problem. I found a cylinder head at a salvage yard for $100, took it to a retired Toyota mechanic, he rebuilt and machined the cylinder head for $450. A month later, I had him install the new cylinder head for $900. It was that cheap because I didn't need the repair right away... and I installed the water pump and thermostat myself. It's always a good idea to replace the thermostat and water pump if you're replacing the head gasket or removing the cylinder head. An overheating engine is a bitch!
Where’s all the Toyota fan boys preaching their reliability now? Saw a land cruiser broke down on the freeway this morning as well. Just goes to show, but what you like and maintain it properly and hope for the best 😂
Don't worry, the excuses are flowing strong. Of course if this had any other badge on the grill they'd all be here ranting about what a POS it was. Because there's no hater like a Toyota fanboi hater.
There's fan boys. If it was a Chevy with 180,000+ miles on it with this issue no way I'd say it was trash. By the way the little Tacoma didn't break down. It was still fully operational in year 20. But Toyotas are far from perfect. They just on average are less prone to major failures early in their lives. I could tell you plenty of stories of american vehicles crapping out well under 100,000 miles. I work with a lady who's husband tows boats for a living. On his heavy duty Chevrolet truck he's had to have it in the shop for significant repairs 3 times already (went into limp mode the other day) and it's only 2 years old. He drives it of course but all highway miles and always keeps up with maintenance. Really shouldn't be the case.
@@ShawDAMAN Of course - no brand is immune from issues but somehow the toyota bois are the worst about preaching how toyota is god and everything else is crap. There can be no compromise. Any logical person knows a used car is more about who owned it than who built it, but if there's so much as a light out on any other brand they seize on that and shout "what a POS!" while ignoring their own problems.
@@donhappel9566 I think there's a lot of truth to that but I would say the make is still significant. I don't care how often you change the fluids on a land rover or a fiat its almost certainly still going to have more issues after 100k than a Toyota or Honda with comparable maintenance (or for that matter, a Ford.)
Maybe Toyota fanboys are worse. Other manufactures have their irrational adherents too. You don't hear Chevy/ford/dodge guys screaming about reliability though... That isn't why you buy one of those vehicles and most of their owners realize it and are willing to put up with the likelihood of some less 'bulletproof' designs and build quality for other reasons.
There's a reason why Toyotas have the (albeit exaggerated) reputation that they do. I've owned two of them myself (as well as 2 other brands.) I prefer the Asian makes but I'm not blind. I owned a Honda Civic ("they run forever!") That had catastrophic transmission failure at 89,000 miles lol.
You should also freshen up the rest of the engine while you are at the shop. The better compression of a valve job will accelerate the wear on the higher mileage rest of the engine . You will end up money ahead in the end. And the dependability will be much longer with a totally freshened engine.
So are we not going to mention that boy NOT warming up that truck and going ham after fixing it?