Driving Fail #37 | Overtaken while Overtaking 2
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This is the second episode where we've seen someone overtaking someone else who is overtaking. This one is way more dangerous though!
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Parking on the wrong side of the road with dipped beam on is my latest bugbear. I see it frequently now, especially with increasing use of supermarket and take away deliveries. I don't think the average driver appreciates that beams are directed to the left and blind oncoming traffic. Lights are so bright on modern cars as well. I find cars overtaking me on unlit motorways blind me from the door mirror.
They don't have to be on the wrong side of the road. It just needs a modest convex slope with how ridiculously bright headlights are now. Then there's crappy aftermarket "upgrade" bulbs that don't align with the reflectors properly, or drivers that just crank the beam adjusters up tp 11.
I believe some countries have actually banned this type of parking and you have to park with the direction of traffic.
"Lights are so bright on modern cars" Yes, these LEDs are not only needlessly bright, they're needlessly intense, too (too much brightness in too small an area). They should be shielded so that they direct their light onto the road and not into the poor eyes of pedestrians.
One of my pet hates too, particularly as well leaving an unnattended vehicle idling, which is against the law, and I see it all the time. Yes headlights these days are way too dazzling (and vehicle regs need to catch up with this) - and fog lights too which unless there is bad visibility is against the law to have on, both front and rear. Just about every other car has them or some extra spot lights on for no reason other than to be a poser!
My personal bugbear. I cannot see whether in a car or a cycle. I am blinded. Are modern cars unable to switch off headlights?
6:35 After driving down the M23 yesterday (Xmas day) and seeing no one using the left hand lane ... more power to them.
Lane discipline here is a disgrace.
What was the deal/issue with clip 16 at 6:34 ? Seemed to be moving back over to the left lane properly after overtakes, no?
I agree, that is how I drive on motorways, it depends on how fast I will catch up the vehicle ahead as to whether I move back into lane one, and on a busy road you could cause more congestion by hogging the middle lane for a few minutes.
I know the footage is sped up but it looks very excessive and it appears they a constantly moving into gaps left by other drivers to keep them a safe distance from the car in front (the 2 second rule).
Those driving on the pavement are shocking... 😬🤕
Have a Happy Christmas, Ash - thanks for the lessons 👍
Feels like for every day that passes, the standard of driving gets lower and lower.
@@se-kmg355 20,000 less police had an effect, who would have thunk it.
Should be banned from driving for that behaviour.
That's just something you don't see in the US, probably because our sidewalks/pavements are narrower and have grass on either side...and a dodging pedestrian would likely pick up a stone and smash the offender's window out.
Clip 19,20 and 21 is datchet near Slough... Drivers in Slough are oblivious.
I wouldn’t necessarily call clip 16 a fail
That's literally me
A comment to clip 12, from a resident of northern scandinavia - in snowy conditions ice will tend to build up at junctions and get nicely polished by cars slowing down. There is essentially no grip on this stuff, unless you have studded winter tyres (which are illegal in most of europe), so ABS can't help you. So take it very easy and slow down well in advance.
Definitely. The advice about maintaining ten times the normal following distance is about right - but people just don't believe it. You hear the same things over and over: I've got 4x4; I've got ABS. Ice doesn't care for either of those if you need to stop.
In this case, winter or all-year tyres would've been enough to prevent a situation like this.
studded tires actually only make a small improvement. that can sometimes be enough, but they often create a sense of false confidence.
@@kenbrown2808 On ice they make a very significant difference. I can confirm this from personal experience. But they only offer advantages on ice, and are inferior in snow, wet and dry conditions. Which is why i have stud-less on my car, and i suspect why a lot of people here have switched in recent years. Studded tyres are also insanely noisy.
@@15bit62 I used to be a skiier. advanced rubber formulas are more effective than any of the studs I've run. and unless you're studding out to the extent of ice racing tires, no, they only add a relatively small percentage to the total coefficient of friction.
Clip 16. Maybe a little excessive pulling back in at one point but isn't that otherwise good lane discipline?
I thought that also. Aren't you always supposed to stick to the left lane unless overtaking? The speeding up of the video also makes it seem a bit more excessive than it would otherwise be.
Nope, not good lane discipline, just an oblivious driver. If they had looked in their mirror, they would have seen there were no vehicles approaching behind and therefore no reason at all to pull over. Every lane change introduces risk, even just the risk of picking up debris in your tyres as you cross the less travelled bit of road. You should only make a lane change when it achieves a purpose.
@@shm5547 Rule 264 of the Highway Code - Keep in the left lane unless overtaking.
Granted, one or two of the moves into the left lane may not have been strictly necessary due to the rate the vehicle was catching up to the vehicles ahead but I would rather a driver do this than blindly stick in the centre or outside lane causing problems behind. Those are the truly oblivious ones.
@@RikMcCloud and rule 268, do not weave in and out of lanes.
Rule 264 says you should only move left when safe to do so. If you can see you would shortly need to move right to overtake again, then clearly it's safer to remain in the lane you are in.
When there are no vehicles ahead or behind, an advanced driving technique is to use the middle lane. It usually has a better surface than lane 1 due to less lorry traffic, has a lower chance of debris and you get more road in case of a tyre blowout.
@@DavArc626 they are being unsafe because every lane change increases risk. This is clearly demonstrated at the very last lane change (6:51) when they nearly collide with a lorry, which did not see them due to their erratic move to and from lane 1. Had they remained in lane 2, the lorry driver would have seen them in their mirrors.
If you watch any police pursuit footage, they will use the middle lane whenever possible.
The bike was absolutely at fault there. I've filtered in those circumstances plenty of times but you have to be on your toes and the person in the Fiat 500 done an unusually good job of ensuring that road was clear, many other people would have seen the 'gap' and gone for it.
100% agree with you
there is filtering and then there is using a turning lane as a passing lane.
@@kenbrown2808 And both are acceptable. The stipulation is only that it is done safely and legally.
@@chinapig71 where I am, using a turning lane for a passing lane is neither legal nor safe.
@@kenbrown2808 Its fine in the UK unless marked otherwise.
These never fail to elicit a shake of the head or fail to produce a wry grin. Thank you keeping us entertained while the stuffed bird roasts. Merry Christmas Ashley to yourself and your family.
Merry Christmas!
@@ashley_neal the car for the Team point is a morgan.
Clip 14 - parking facing the wrong direction with headlights on - I once came close to hitting some (I believe drunk) people falling out of a taxi, due to not being able to see them rolling in the road because of the headlight glare. It's not only dangerous to park like that, it's illegal. Sidelights and even hazard lights would have been far better for the ambulance in that clip.
I've been driving for over 45 years, and I'm still learning thanks to you Ash.
3:48 Here in the West Midlands, National Express (who operate most of our local buses) bought a load of midibuses in the mid-late 90s through to the early 2000s, when they were known as Travel West Midlands (Volvo B6BLE/Wright Crusader if anyone's interested). Their indicators *all* sounded like that
Still got a couple in the training fleet...
Great buses to drive, and Shame I only ever drove them twice
Hi Ashley! I don’t know if you saw my comment on your chatGPT video but I passed my driving test and I am very grateful for your videos!
Great job! Keep safe!!
@@ashley_neal Thanks I will 😁👍
What a lovely Christmas surprise to see my video of the person holding up the police car highlighted in one of your fail vids! Merry Christmas, Ash!
Thanks for sending in!
Clip 14: Turn off or down your light where ever you park!
I was driving on a rural road this week, with no street lights, heavy snow fall and limited sight and was blinded by an oncoming car. But I was confused about where the road was going. Untill I understood that the car was parked around 50 meters from the road.
Also on parking spaces where you are trying to back into a spot but are totally blinded by the car lights of the car parked besides of you. The owner sitting on their mobile phone.
Back in the 70s I was driving home on a country road leading into my home town. Fortunately, I was driving up a hill so quite slowly. A car coming the other way wsas stopped with full headlights on and blinding me. I saw at the last moment that he had stopped beside a cow on the road and I was fortunately able to stop without hitting either the driver or the cow.
It was over 40 years ago that Dad gave me the best piece of advice on driving, "assume everyone else on the road is an idiot", it's stood me in good stead!
I hope you have a great 2023, first time I have typed that! I watch your videos a lot and find that your views are spot on the money. The other thing I want to say is how calming your voice is and your delivery is very calm. I quite often watch a few of your clips before i go on a medium to long trip, or somewhere i haven't been before. I find it puts me in a calm frame of mind and i deal with all the situations i come across a lot better. If I may say that one of the best ways to improve your driving is to leave earlier. This simple thing takes away all the frustration of trying to be on time and making silly decisions.
Once again thanks for everything and keep up the good work.
Nick
6:42 a lane discipline policeman would be tailgating flashing lights then undertaking or overtaking then cut across to the left lane… what’s wrong with what he did? maybe what he did was useless or could do with a little more anticipation but didn’t really do anything wrong…
Pointless manoeuvres that demonstrate a total lack of awareness, anticipation and forward planning.
Almost as if they can’t see further than the end of their bonnet….
@@MagicRat correct, definitely overzealous, but not exactly a « fail » is it? Can’t see what (s)he actually did wrong…
Clip 16. Admit I drive that way. Keeping left if there's reasonable gaps.
03:30 That's a Morgan, we owned a 4/4 in 2011-12. Thanks for 2022, Ash. Christmas greetings from Sweden.
Merry Christmas to all the viewers. Thanks for the informative comments. Special thanks to all who sent videos in. And of course to Ash for helping is to stay on our toes.
Merry Christmas Ash, thanks for the videos and keeping us both entertained and educated.
Nice to see a vid whilst the duck is cooking, Ashley. Thanks.
Have a blessed Christmas.
Incidentally, I see that the interesting not-a-roundabout you covered at Wirral Waters, Tower Road, Birkenhead CH41 1AA - the one with the strange not-Zebra crossings and the whirlpool painted on the road, which opened in Feb 21, had an injury accident involving 3 cars and 2 slight casualties on 15/06/2021. 2022 numbers not out yet.
Might that be worth a revisit, since it is part of a scheme which will end up with 13k new homes? Personally, I'd be interested to see how the fairly lightweight materials and paint used, and the design, are surviving the rigours of a 15k vehicle a day A-road.
6:33
I wouldn’t call that “Lane discipline police”, I would call that good motorway driving, to avoid causing traffic and avoid driving in the overtaking lanes without overtaking.
You've time stamped the end of the clip.
Was it to ironically to make the point for the cam car? Note that nobody else passed them in the entire clip. I expect it's because they were aware of what was (or wasn't) behind them. Staying in the middle lane didn't only take less effort it made their intent clearer to the cars they passed and made them more visible to the truck that did pull out, as well as making it a less of a drama for them to respond when it did.
@@ethelmini
The middle Lane is not a driving lane, it is an overtaking lane only. The Highway Code states, ‘once you have overtaken you must return to the left Lane when it is safe to do so.’
To be honest, it looked like he was pulling into soon and not leaving a large enough gap behind for the vehicle that he has just pulled in front of!
@@thefoodiechannelcookingfro1822
If he was overtaking said vehicle, which he was then obviously his speed is greater and the gap will therefore increase pretty quickly.
The cammer was overtaking too, the "Lane Discipline Police" was 'Swan Necking' it can be dangerous. Sometimes it's better to just stay in the middle lane when overtaking vehicles even slowly, and no it's not lane hogging. That's when there is no one in the left lane for at least half a mile and you just stay put. Then that's lane hogging.
Clip 16 absolutely spot on lane discipline. Should be taught to all the numpties using the motorways!!!.
Another excellent video Ash, thought provoking as always! A lot of people still think that the point of ABS is to help them stop quicker. Most people have never learned cadence braking which can be just as effective. The main thing with ABS is that it allows you to retain a degree of steering control but many just hit the brake and get a nasty case of 'target fixation' - hitting the thing they are looking at rather than trying to steer away from it. Hope you are having a good Christmas and I look forward to viewing more of your high quality content in 2023.
To be fair the reason most people don't use cadence braking is they haven't been taught it as the majority of cars on the road now have ABS
I'd argue the point of ABS is not absolute stopping distance, it's reliability. It gives pretty close to the ideal braking distance (though not the absolute best) in a large variety of road conditions and it eliminates driver skill and execution of braking technique from the equation. Even in this case with the snow I don't think it's the ABS causing them to fail to slow down. It's the lack of traction, without ABS they would be sliding just as far, just with locked wheels instead of mostly rolling wheels, and as you said without any steering control.
It makes it so everyone is always able to perform a good emergency stop, instead of some people making really good ones, some people making bad ones, and maybe sometimes people who usually would perform well just mess up one time. ABS always does it about as well as could be expected.
I don't get what's wrong with Clip 16. Maybe he could have held out in the middle lane on a couple of those but I'd much rather this than people sat out in lanes they shouldn't be in.
Clip 16. A joy to see.
drove a six hour roundabout route home (including an extra 60-100 miles) Friday on ice, and there were surprisingly few SUVs upside down in the ditches.
The one at 8:12 might actually be that they do not see you. It sounds unbelievable at first but when you are not a car and the emerging driver expects either car or no car, they tend to not see anything that is not a car. From the point of view of the cyclist or motorcyclist it really looks like "they look at me and then pull out anyway" but they were looking through you like you are not there. Sometimes they might finally notice you when it is way too late but often they go away from this never knowing they just almost hit someone. I was hit by a car like this twice when
I was much younger and both times I was convinced to the last moment I had eye contact with the driver. Both drivers looked absolutely puzzled afterwards as to where did I suddenly appear from when I had a direct view to their head for good 10 seconds or more.
Then I tried to understand this to be able to avoid it and I was shocked how much published research I found that all concludes the same thing: If two options are over 95% of the answer you are looking for you will miss all the other options unless you are conciously checking for them. If when emerging, especially on a route you drive often, you almost always have either a car or an empty road in front of your eyes then unless you concentrate on it you will start just checking for cars and no car equals empty road in your brain. Your brain does not tell you that it has "optimised" the task of checking if the road is empty. You still think you looked if something is coming. But in fact you only checked for cars when you thought you were checking if the road is empty.
The one experiment that stuck in my memory was where they asked hundreds of volunteers to watch a 3-on-3 basketball match lasting about 20 minutes. They were given the task to make a mark on a paper every time the players in white T-shirts pass the ball between them. After a while they all just watch the people in white and ignore the people in black. Then in the middle there is a guy in a gorila suit for about 30 seconds moving in the view, making gestures to the camera and such. Full 70% of the volunteers did not know about him when they were asked after. Not only that but they were convinced it is impossible, they would have seen and noticed something like that. On the road when cycling I need to know that I am that gorila suit and drivers are only cars - white T-shirts passing the ball.
search for "A Fighter Pilot’s Guide to surviving on the roads" to see a detailed write-up of his effect
That lorry overtake of the cyclist, bloody hell.
The biker was already overtaking the lorry. The lorry then seems to pull out to overtake the cyclist without checking its mirrors or being aware of its surroundings, forcing the motorcyclist into the verge.
That point at 5:50 needs to be highlighted to people a whole lot more. Far to many people are oblivious to how headlights are focused and the impact they have to oncoming drivers when parked/stopped on the wrong side of the road. Hence why beam benders are a thing.
Main reason why it's illegal to park on the wrong side of the road here in Australia (at least in NSW)!
Clip 18: The white van driving on the left hand pavement (sidewalk) and at speed: We saw that recently in another clip and unbelievably shocking. Not sure what possessed them to do that but definitely should lose their licence for that.
I wondered if it was the same driver, since those clips were from the same cama.
Clip 6 highlights the need to concentrate at all times. There is often a tendency to "switch off" when driving an easy uneventful route, more so if it's on a long journey too. Always be prepared for the unexpected no matter how uneventful your journey has been so far.
Clip 6 starts at 2:30
Merry Christmas Ashley and thank you for all you do on this channel
Same to you! Thanks for your support👍
@@ashley_neal No problem at all 🙂
Indicators don't self cancel on some if not all Morgan's. I have installed warning buzzers like this on quite a few. I used to use a Datatool product designed for motorbikes but I don't think they make it any more!
I was wondering if it was a Morgan! Thank you! 😁
Clip 15: There is a traffic light junction here in Canterbury with seperate light assemblies for "Left turn & straight ahead" vs. "Right turn filter only". Constantly see drivers wanting to turn right get confused when the "left and ahead" light turns green. Any time I am at traffic lights with different lights on different poles or with additional lenses, I am on very high observational alert.
I think this sort of problem with multi-lane independent traffic lights would be solved if the amber light and green lights had arrows to show exactly what they meant. Some do have arrows on the green but I've never seen one on the amber.
@@rampak1 Funnily enough I've often thought the exact same thing re: arrows rather than full circular lights. I'm not sure if there is some reason why it isn't done that way.
Stopping anything up to a car's length back from the stop line is my primary strategy at all lights, as it gives me vision not just of multiple light assemblies but also a better view of the traffic approaching the area from other directions.
6:16 for those who don't want to have to search
For clip 16 isn’t the 1 series correct as it looks to be sped up clip making it look more erratic driving where I’m a little confused wether it’s safer to be in lane 2 or go back to the left when not overtaking abit of a grey area
In one instance I guess they shouldn’t off pulled in but apart from that
As a motorcyclist I was taught to avoid overtaking/filtering over a junction
Which is good. And smart. Rule 167 even states not to overtake when there is a junction either side of the road. But people don't listen/read much, it seems. You keep filtering and overtaking smartly.
In slow moving traffic, it's ok to filter like that ... BUT need to check for any junctions and the stationary car with a gap in front of it is an obvious sign of a car being let out. The Fiat driver edged out otherwise this could've been worse. Biker simply should not have put themselves in that position
Clip 14: "If you have to park on the right hand side of the road at night...etc". Of course under normal circumstances that would be illegal at night though I will concede in this particular case it was an ambulance and might have been an emergency. Fair enough if that was the case but as per Ashley, they should have only been on sidelights (aka parking lights). For the rest of us, don't park on the right hand side of a two way road at night!
Merry Christmas, Ib.
@@cargy930Oh Hello there Cargy. Thank you and a Merry Christmas to you too.
of course, you know that in my corner of the states, parking on the "wrong side" is forbidden, entirely.
@@kenbrown2808 Oh yes, very familiar with that indeed. Having said that, I see people do it in quiet residential streets in greater Vancouver, Seattle and Portland, especially cul de sacs where folks living on the "wrong" side of the street presumably want a quick getaway. Doesn't seem there's much ticketing going on in those quiet residential streets either. For busier areas and main surface streets, you don't see this illegal wrong sided parking at all.
@@kenbrown2808 In many states, it's illegal. It's always park with the flow of traffic. The only exception to parking on the opposite side is on one-way streets (as all traffic flows in the same direction).
What a pleasant Christmas present to accidentally stumble upon your channel...
I especially like how you pick the videos that clearly show the educational bits without being burdened by the sensational crash footage. As with most close calls, people should understand that each miss is pure coincidence that it wasn't a hit...
I'll keep browsing through your archive for a while, but in case there isn't one there, would it be a suitable video for your channel that covered the importance of keeping distance in front AND behind the vehicle? So many people cut in so closely, totally ignoring the fact that their brakes might be more effective than the ones on the car they just overtook. Similarly, tailgaters really must hate their vehicle. I've got one of those automatic braking cars and I've been rear-ended twice already because the system sprung in action. That system is 100x faster than a human so there is no way on earth they can ever stop in time when they only keep 0.2 seconds distance (instead of the required 2.5 seconds, or 2 seconds as a bare minimum).
One thought on what you said about ABS. I'm not sure what message you were trying to convey when you said "notice how badly the ABS slows down the vehicle" (or something similar), but I'm convinced that without ABS your viewer would have been rear-ended by that car (the one that was clearly not using a speed adapted to the snowy road conditions, as could be seen right from the start of the clip). ABS is not there to slow down better. On the contrary, it trades a small portion of minimal braking distance in optimal conditions in for a lot more maneuvering capability in the worst of conditions.
Have a great holiday season and I'm looking forward to more of your videos in 2023! Thanks!
Someone explain 6.45 clip to me ? He moved back into the left lane when over taking ? Person filming stayed in the middle lane ? I’m Xmas drunk and very confused ? Even drunk I think you should move back into the left when after overtaking ?
Hey Ashley, I'm a newish driver in an odd situation, I passed my test 10 years ago but then I moved abroad and never drove again until now. I've been looking for lessons to get up to speed but found it impossible with the waiting lists right now so just been relying on family to help me sharpen up. Your videos have been a huge help to me. My girlfriend got me a dashcam for Christmas so looking forward to contributing to the viewer's fails series! Thank you mate once again you've been a huge help.
I was in a similar situation: passed at 17, drove small distances for a few years in my parents' car, and then didn't drive for over 15 years.
Watching these videos helped get me back up to speed and build my confidence before I had to start driving again this year (due to a baby and planning to move out of London).
Thanks for sharing!!
Refresh your knowledge with a read of the highway code; it is all in there.
@@R0ssMM what made you not drive for 15 years? good public transport? costs?
@@emze563 I moved to London so had no need for it, only getting a car when I moved somewhere with a dedicated space and had a kid
I always love these driving fail episodes on each clip I try and guess what's going to happen and mute my TV so I can't hear you giving me any clues and then watch again with your commentary Ashley. I've got a new dash cam for Xmas so no doubt I will be sending clips into you in the future. Merry Christmas Ashley and to your family and I look forward to more great content in 2023.
Clip 10. Whenever I am in a position to allow an emerge because of traffic speed, I always try to assist the emerging motorist, by using hand gestures to ward if it is safe to proceed. Palm forward to indicate that they should wait, and a wave on to indicate no approaching vehicles. Saved a number of people over the years.
That is SO WRONG. You are not in charge. Please up date your knowledge of the Highway Code. The same goes to the numpty who gave thumbs
@@alanwllms5172 I have updated my knowledge of the highway code, and I've also been trained to use 'the system'. As with all things in life, the highway code may well mandate the expected behaviour but it has to be tempered to accommodate conditions. As I said, if the situation allows I will permit drivers to merge. I would do this when the general flow of traffic is less than 10 mph, which it can be quite often in my area. You have to make value judgements while driving, not just slavishly follow the highway code. Ask yourself this question. You are trying to emerge from a side road, and the traffic flow is slower than walking pace. Would you, give n the opportunity to emerge by a driver on the main road slowing down to give you that chance, would you refuse it, as it's against the highway code? Or, if you ware on the main road, would you give the emerging motorist a chance, or would you close the gap, as letting someone else join the main road is against the highway code?
Merry Christmas Ashley and drive safe, just did 90km today so I could have Christmas lunch with the family before work and since the roads were empty it was a fantastic, relaxing drive! :D
I find that main beam helps in situations with parked cars blinding oncoming traffic. I had the same problem with a parked police car (on the curb facing me) - it was only after I put my main beam on that I saw someone else standing in the road talking through their passenger window.
4:14 - as a daily motorcycle rider, IAM Instructor and soon to start IAM Master trainee, my thought is that it's 75% biker, 25% driver. The rider, before even directly coming into conflict with the Fiat, presented a self-hazard by using too much speed. In a crawl-stop-crawl-stop situation like that, I would be using sub 10MPH along that section, irrelevant of if there is anything in either junction. I believe that if you need to use the front brake whilst filtering, you're travelling too fast, rear brake only. Whilst the car driver should have focused on where their car was going and thanked both drivers after the emerge, the rider put themselves in that situation. I always try to hold back in a gap whilst filtering if there is a blind or occupied junction, especially since we are just as missable as cyclists can be. Shame on the rider, he needs to do more hazard perception testing and needs to do some training, especially in anticipation skills. The driver needs to think further ahead and use better observations
The Biker was filtering a little fast, although given the amount of space he had a bit higher speed is understandable. However the fault is 100% the Fiat's because they are the one performing the hazardous action that caused the near collision. The highway code does state for us (I'm a biker too) to keep speed low, but does also mention filtering as being fine. It also mentioned when turning right "watch out for cyclists, motorcyclists and pedestrians including powered wheelchairs/mobility scooter users as they are not always easy to see. Be aware that they may not have seen or heard you if you are approaching from behind" - therefore the car is at fault and had a collision occured would have carried most of the blame with the insurance. I know from experience of an RTC I was involved in that putting your vehicle into the path of another with poor observations carries a significant weight of blame.
Insurance would go 50/50 on that one if there was an accident claim. Poor all round but especially from the motorbike they really ought to know better.
@@katierscott8771 NOPE!
Way too many biker's have "IT WAS MY RIGHT OF WAY!!" as their epitaph on their gravestones.
If you're going to filter in those conditions, you've got to be going slower and looking over and past the stationary vehicles and wondering why there's a gap. Absolutely foolish and entitled riding from the biker.
@@RichO1701e I'm 50:50 as I think the same charge applies to the emerging car.
@@RichO1701e There is a difference between 'right of way' and 'should I have done that'.
Letter of the law - Red Cars fault...
Should the motocyclist have been more cautious? Absolutely, defensive driving/riding saves lives.. but we often only have to drive that way because people don't see us. Doesn't make it the motorcyclists fault, but yes absolutely the motorcyclist ought to have been riding with more caution.
By the highway code the motorcyclist did little wrong, and the red car everything wrong. By sensible safe defensive motorbike riding, yep the motorcyclist ought to have read the hazards better and acted appropriately.
Morgan plus 8. When I was lad a bloke came to the house to read the meters in his and gave me a blast up the coast road when I showed some interest. I’ve never driven one but I thoroughly recommend the Morgan factory tour in Malvern.
4:39 Whose fault. Well, I am generally against people stopping in a main road for the sole purpose of letting someone out of a junction. But in this case it's not so clear cut because there was slow moving traffic involved. And as can be seen, everyone else on the road seems to understand the scenario perfectly as it unfolds. Except for the bike rider who, in my view, is the last person in this clip who should be leaving their awareness behind.
Way too many biker's have "IT WAS MY RIGHT OF WAY!!" as their epitaph on their gravestones.
If you're going to filter in those conditions, you've got to be going slower and looking over and past the stationary vehicles and wondering why there's a gap. Absolutely foolish and entitled riding from the biker.
@Mike Codona has pointed out that "According to the Highway Code rule 151: In slow moving traffic. You should allow access into and from side roads, as blocking these will add to congestion. "
@@niccolomedici4482 Yes, and that is sensible. So I agree, in this situation it was fine to let the other car in and everyone except the biker seemed to read the scenario just fine.
@@zbf5h89ftb I think you make a good point about the Fiat driver. But I still feel like the bike rider should have been more aware in this situation and shouldn't have been filtering in that moment.
Its always amazing with all the evidence from the video that some of these drivers are still out there committing what easily could be fatal incidents.
1:50 that's the M3 in Belfast. The worst junction from your nightmares and then some. Its a motorway about 1/4 of a mile long, which is just one long junction. You have, on both sides, dual on and off ramps so you have two lanes of joiners trying to get on, while the entire left lane is trying to get off. Each on the off ramps goes to about 6 different places and in the direction the cam car is going it gets really confusing because both the left off ramp and the motorway both go to the same place. Most likely the taxi at the front realised at the last moment he was headed the wrong way. Which, ironically enough, if he's stayed on the off ramp he would have ended up back on the motorway about 200 yards up.
Merry Christmas to You and family Ash & Thank You for all that you do. Really hope you will continue to make these videos indefinitely! In the meantime, have yourself a great Christmas lunch / dinner!
and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
@@kenbrown2808 Thank You Ken. Likewise. Hope the weather in your part of the world isn't giving you too much grief. My other homeland of Vancouver BC has been hit quite hard.
@@ibs5080 we were in Portland for the ice storm. there was a surprising lack of SUV crashes and only a few people driving aggressively enough to earn a comment.
@@kenbrown2808 Oh my, Portland! The Rose City. I know it very well indeed and visited at Christmas many times. Very familiar with: The Lights of Peacock Lane, the Portland International Raceway drive through display, the Queen Anne Mansion Miracle of a Million Lights, Bridgeport Village Outlet in Tigard, the Nobb Hill district, the Pearl District, Pioneer Courthouse Square, riding the TriMet, the Made in Oregon stores, the Lloyd Center, the Portland Saturday Market under the Burnside Bridge, Pioneer Place Mall and of course Powell's Books on Burnside. Oh and of course the Pendleton stores and their famous blankets. I hope you got to "Keep Portland Weird". 😀
@@kenbrown2808 Glad that the driving experience wasn't too bad for you in Portland. On one of my visits a few Christmases ago when it snowed, it was a little unnerving. For one thing, the I5 bridge from WA into OR was sheet ice with many semis stuck. The rest of the journey to the hotel was pretty bad too. Once there, didn't use the car at all for the four night stay. Watching the local KATU tv station I learned it was taking folks 6 hours to get from one side of Portland to the other. Under normal conditions one can drive to the Canadian border in that time. Oh and Oregon doesn't use salt on the roads for environmental reasons, right? Though they do use other treatments.
Nice to see the mention of headlights on when pulled over on the wrong side of the road. I think a lot of people just don't know it's a problem and that headlights are different on either side.
Clip 7: the motorbike had already started to pass the truck when the truck just pulled out.
2:54 Lorry pulls out to over take cyclist fails to see the motor cycle over taking he and forces cyclist almost of the road. A case of not checking before pulling across, there's no excuse blaming "blind spots" you shouldn't have they !
The try not to use your horn as a stress ball comment made me laugh!
04:15 - I know this junction, it is on the Mumbles Road in Mumbles, Swansea. What you can't see in the clip is that there's a sign a few metres back signposting that there's a long stay car park on the left. Note also that the motorcyclist also rides into a diagonal striped area with a broken border. The motorcyclist would also have had a higher and most likely had a better viewpoint, and should have been able to see the car emerging. The motorcyclist was clearly riding carelessly/without due care and attention.
The car driver was creeping out slowly, and there was little else they could do, other than wait for traffic to clear, which would be a very lengthy wait on that busy road, and that's also why both cars on the main carriageway were being courteous and stopped to let the car out.
I’ve seen multiple comments saying that the cam car shouldn’t have let them out because they were turning right, I wonder if they would stick to that decision if they had to emerge from that junction in traffic like that
Opening clip reminds me of "If go quickly on roundabouts then people tend to think you're going straight on and will pull out in front of you"
Clip #10: props to the red car who was clearly emerging with all appropriate caution, despite the first vehicles evidently holding back to allow the emerge.
Motorbikes aren’t supposed to stop to allow cars out. It’s in the Highway Code that they should continue in this exact situation.
4:14 for who don't want to have to search.
@@Batters56 But they have to take extra care if they filter through traffic. And a car stopped in front of a junction should always cause the alarm for crossing vehicles running.
@@Batters56 God, you're do fucking wrong.
@@Batters56 daft to overtaking on a junction and so should not have been in position to have a vehicle cross its path. There was at one time a few videos sharing the results of overtaking on junctions on TH-cam. Common sense you're also tell you that you don't drive around the corner on the right-hand side of the road unless it's a one way,!
what was the problem with clip 16 @ 6:34 ? don’t really understand what the driver did wrong
6:40 was a joy to watch, using the outer lanes to overtake
Did you know that in the States, vehicles are not allowed to park facing the opposing side of traffic. Here in the UK parking is a bit messy.
Clip 8 is a Morgan. My wife drives one so I am used to being in that passenger position. Looks like a very similar colour to her one as well.
Clip 16 Lane Discipline Police, serious question, what's wrong with moving to lane one when not overtaking?
Just curious.
Merry Christmas to you and your family Ashley hope you have a good one. On a different note where would I find the link for the dash cams as I'm getting my first car next month and want a dash cam
Please check out the description! Merry Christmas!!
Happy Christmas Ashley. Really enjoy your channel and especially the driver educational content. Those pavement drives in the clip smh.
The vehicle parked on the left with the headlights on is an Ambualance. (can see it clearly at 6:11) with the side door open and it looks like one of the crew leaning in. They should really be on blue lights, but this looks to be a patient transport ambulance so won't have those fitted (can't see the top light bar, and grill isn't clear enough to see if there are lights there - and most patient transport ambulances don't have blue lights as they're not emergency response vehicles) - so they leave their lights on to protect themselves while loading or unloading a patient. Now, they should be using side lights and hazard lights, not dipped headlights but if there's been too many near misses while they might have adopted this approach.
But... it is a demonstration of how much impact these lights have on approaching drivers when you're stopped on the wrong side of the road.
The 'mystery' car is a 1970's era Morgan, could be a 4/4 or a Roadster.
I did think Morgan too.
I thought it was a Morgan as well
Thought Morgan straight away. My guess, with the slats in the bonnet, is a Plus 8
Do you know what year they stopped putting the sidelights on the wing?
I thought that, but I'm no expert.
3:26, pretty sure it's a Morgan, Plus Four maybe. Didn't know the indicaters sounded like they're off a bus tho 😅 The question at 4:30 - Cars in both directions had visibly stopped to let the red car out of the junction. While the red car should have checked to their right again before moving further forward, the person on the bike should have been more observent of the situation at the junction and been prepared to stop and give-way like the other traffic had. Better to be patient than hurt.
I am just so glad I gave up driving five years ago. Now a happy stress free, albiet slower mode person
As far as who was in the wrong... I'd probably say something along the lines of... 'If you're not taking responsibility for your own safety on the road, are you expecting others to do it for you?'. In both cases.
Merry chrimbo Ashley. All the best for 2023!
To you too!
"chrimbo" is such a good scouse word, can't say it without the accent!
Clip 10 50-50
As a biker I’d have been filtering, but I’d have noticed the side street and the gap being left by the camera car and realised what was happening before I was on top of it all.
The biker should have come to a stop along side the camera car and let the 500 merge into traffic
I recall the statement in the Highway Code which basically commands the road user to not act on instructions from anyone other than a uniformed officer or warden (of former times}. Don't give instructions if you're not in uniform. The red Fiat driver was correctly in two minds about crossing. Should have stayed put.
With the stressball incident, was it a case of the horn blaster not being fully allert to the situation as much as the white car pulling out suddenly? They usually say "expect the unexpected," in road safety lessons and this seems like a perfect example of that.
Clip #5 is exactly the reason why I always do a quick over the shoulder check to my left when moving back to the left on a busy motorway, as mirrors won't always cover that wide a field of view. Especially if it's more than two lanes and especially more so if it's anywhere near an on slip. Also a reason why I always signal a lane change back to the left, though I know that's at variance with a few recent videos.
I use half an eyeball to monitor the gap when I'm overtaking and changing back in, and there are times when I will see someone itching for an undertake and slide over to foil them, anyway. they may never learn patience, but it's worth a try.
It’s my video. Hard to do a shoulder check on the nearside of a panel van!
Eventually saw them as they came out of the blindspot, and you can see I held off moving back completely until they had passed.
@@fitmydashcam as I mentioned, that's why I keep half an eyeball on the mirror. if I can catch them sneaking into the blind spot, it helps.
3:41 Some 90s school buses had indicators that buzz just like that. As a (special needs) kid, I used to count the number of times it buzzed on each journey, plus I added every speed limit sign I saw onto that number!! AFAIK they were mid-engined buses with diesel-fired heaters.
Funny how you mention regular mirror use as I've found myself trying to check my mirrors in video games (I'm not gonna discuss the politics about games here). When I got NFS heat I found myself trying to do the routines like msm when at junctions in said game via use of the camera. I laughed about it to my friends in discord as it highlighted just how much of a habit it was for me to do these checks in reality.
About the abs clip. I wonder who had all season tyres on? And are things such as snow socks/chains ever considered by the public? I've been stranded due to ice for the majority of December all because my road tyres could not get any bite on my drive (4x4 means nothing without traction) so I'm looking into getting all season tyres in the future. I also learned but I'm unsure if this is true that all season tyres have a longer braking distance (I can kinda see how this is the case).
I have an old car, no ABS, but does have winter tyres. Here in Pennines it has got me along snow covered roads just as well as previous 4wd vehicle. Quite impressed by the difference.
Clip 8: Was it a Morgan?
Clip 10: I dont think the bike should have been there. It was driving over a right turning junction and nor turning right. Patience in the queue would have been better.
I know its often said as a bit of joke "keep death off the roaf, drive on the pavements" but its getting insane out there.
Loved your tips and videos this year, Ash. Have a great Christmas. Lets hope driving improves in 2023 (I wont hold my breath)
Yeah I reckon a Morgan Plus 8.
@@chrisburn7178 got to be a Morgan
@@chrisburn7178 Couldn't detect a V8 rumble - Plus 4 instead?
E | Apologies - had a second listen and a definite V8 rumble!
Wait, what's the issue on clip 16?
Please clear somethjing for me, was the clip with the `lane discipline police` showing poor driving or correct overtaking by returning to left lane? Maybe the thinking is too much returning as not needed unless you are restricting another vehicle behind you that wishes to pass. That does happens much!!! tbh just watched it once did I miss something?
I was looking at this clip thinking they where showing good use of all three lanes and returning to lane 1 when possible. I couldn't see the fault here.
My clip, 5.
Correct use of the lanes IMO. Always nearside unless overtaking.
He's cutting in REALLY close in front of the cars.
No19. What annoys me about drivers like this is not the fact that they pull out in front of you; it's the fact they then don't accelerate but take their time as though there is no-one else on the road.
Isn't that the truth! Happened many times to me.
Merry Christmas Ashley, I love your channel.
Thank you! You too!
Hi Ashley, we see a driving school car on the video. 7:10 Your comment; "I can only make out one person in the driving seat" begs the question, when you instruct as an ADI what is your protocol for how many people do you have amassed in the driving seat?
I think back in the seventies, according to the Benny Hill show , they had to sit on the instructors lap for a fair while.
@@highdownmartin Only if she had big knockers.
Clip 16 - not heard of "keep left unless overtaking" ? Maybe there was one or two extra pull ins to lane 1 but seemed OK to me.
Better than the middle lane hogger as there is a vehicle to be overtaken a mile ahead.
Unless the vehicles in lane 1 are close together then you should pull in as you are converting a three lane motorway into a 2 lane motorway.
I like your saying "He doesn't have the brains he was born with". I might use that one myself :P
I do want to pay tribute to Clip 7 though. That lorry driver did a pretty good job of that overtake, seemed to give plenty of space and didn't pull back in until it was safe to do so. That motorcycle though, I don't know how he managed that without causing an accident.
For Clip 10, the Fiat did a really good job making sure that it was safe before finishing the emerge. Something that could have been an accident mitigated by a responsible driver.
As for people who drive on the pavement (especially with the speeds that van driver was going), I don't think a report alone is enough. They need their license revoked and a good few years of a driving ban. I hope there were no pedestrians on those footpaths at those times.
3:18 A Caterham 7 Series (I believe 420 though I dont know.). Its indicator is always like that. Doesnt belong on the roads anyways. Its habitat is the race track.
just catching up after Christmas Ashley, that's a Morgan @ 3.30 (I think it's a Plus 8)
I have noticed so many people unable to let emergency vehicles past safely, or more accurately think stopping is the best thing to do. Last week I came around a corner to find an ambulance having to go round a car that stopped on the inside of the turn. Day before I let a police car pass and then watch the car in front bring it to a halt by immediately stopping to let it pass with lots of traffic coming the other way. I recon there is a bit of blind panic occurring with some people
I’m currently learning to drive (in the Chesterfield area where I live), my partner bought me pretty decent Dash Cam ready to be installed in our car for when and if I pass and I couldn’t have been more pleased.
The instructors car I’m learning in has a dash cam and out of the 15 lessons I’ve had so far he has to use it to record 3 clips worthy of being on this channel.
1. A bus went from left lane of a 3 lane roundabout and cut past the exit onto the lane I was supposed to go in.
2. A big truck like construction van pulled out of a junction in front of me when they had very little space, they probably thought they could bully the learner into getting what they wanted.
3. I was approaching a roundabout and only wanted the 1st exit, the car behind me stopped, turn into the next lane, floored it out into the roundabout without looking and sped into the 1st exit.
Jaw dropped my instructor clipped it, then as we safely went around we caught up to them in a long queue line and sat behind them to which my instructor wrote the registration number down, clipped it again to be sure and after that lesson went and reported it straight away.
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Again my partner doesn’t know just exactly how much I loved my gift this year because like you said, you can do everything right but it’s like people want to crash into you.
Bit harsh on the BMW #16. The video was sped up to make it look like he was changing lane excessively when in reality he/she was doing what we’re all taught. In fact the cammer (had the video not been sped up) should have pulled in themselves more than once.
Re Clip 12 - Winter tyres make a fantastic difference on snow and ice. And they wear much less than summer tyres do in the cold. I am amazed at how few people use them.
Re Clip 14 - I was once walking on the pavement when I saw a Police Panda car parked on the wrong side with his headlights on. I approached the Police driver and pointed out that a) according to the Highway Code, he should not park with his headlights on and b) it would dazzle oncoming traffic. His response was that he might need to respond to an emergency and hence had to keep his headlights on (!)
Was the bike overtaking before the lorry moved out? Did the lorry just miss it? Or did it just push its way through? Either way from their own sense of self preservation you would've expected them to pull back.
FX06 URW (I hope that's searchable by insurance companies now) is a classic SMIDSY. I nearly get killed by these people all the time.
Clip 10. I think viewers are missing something here. The traffic is moving very slowly. The black car that the cammer is following puts the brake lights on as it reaches the junction and also just after it. I would have stopped too, whether the Fiat500 was there or not. This would be to keep the junction clear untill it is certain that the traffic is still moving and the juction can be cleared. The Fiat driver takes advantage of the gap and does a good job in proceeding with caution.The motorbike rider hadn't a clue, very poor hazard perception in this situation.
I'm struggling to see how the driver in clip 16 is "policing" the lanes? Ashley, would you elaborate as to why this clip is included in driving fails? It seems that I need some education about Rule 264 - Keep in the left lane unless overtaking. If you are overtaking, you should return to the left lane when it is safe to do so
Merry Christmas Ash. Keep the content coming :D
Merry Christmas and Seasons greetings everyone on the channel. Great channel content as always, keeping us informed to be safer and wise drivers, cheers Ashley.
Clip #9 gives me not so fond memories of Maidstone and Kent. I used to live there during the mid 2000s, and regards for drivers over there, they seem to just forget about anything to do it’s road scanning, reading the traffic ahead, signalling when necessary etc. A lot of hesitation from drivers on roundabouts, it’s mad down in Kent for driving.
Lovely place, but for driving, avoid the place.
Stay safe and seasons greetings again.
I had a lorry pull out to overtake when I was beside him on a motorcycle, might not have been the bikers fault in that instance.... I hit the brakes though and dropped back! Nearly died that day, emphasis on nearly! Car was a Morgan!
I've had the same scenario; no option but to accelerate out of the danger zone.
Cyclist like myself are using garmin radar technology when out riding. Paired with, My Bike Radar Traffic app, it picks up vehicles from about 150 meters letting you know on your headset how many vehicles and how close they are behind you, it records their speed on approaching you and the speed it passes you and counts how many have passed you that ride. The Varia RCT715 radar which I’ve got also videos every single vehicle as well. Thankfully tech is making the roads a little safer for cyclists. 👍🏼🚴🏻♂️
5:10 I bet 90% of drivers who drive in these conditions. All have stock tyres or cheap tyres that preform okay in dry weather, poor in rain & shit in snow. Tyres are the only thing connecting us to the road. Yet people cheap out on them all the time.