I'm a independent shop tech I work on every freaking type of vehicle imaginable, I have multiple brands of tools including recently added Icon tools so far great tools no complaints.
I do a lot of leather tooling on the side, and have spent thousands of dollars on buying the best tools money can buy. I met a guy whose in the top 5% in the world. His work is stunning. He had only a handful of very cheap tools, and he does the most beautiful work you ever seen. I learned a great lesson from this man. For most of your tools, you can get bye with whatever’s on hand, when you need something special which is going to be used frequently, then spend on something quality, but even then it might not need to be the best (sometimes it does)
@@PaulyD0859 I've always said it's better to buy quality than to have a cheap tool break in the middle of a job. It's frustrating, time consuming and can screw up your whole schedule not to mention a job not getting done on time. And there goes the money you saved on the cheapo's ! That's me. I had a ratchet break, an extension break, screw drivers and pliers in the past to name just a few.
I’m a motorcycle mechanic and everyone in my shop uses my tools daily and I use icon. I have left my Mac tools at home due to everyone using my tools and truly love the icon line up.
Straight up truth, your skill is what makes the mechanic, like most I have a mix of Snappy, Matco, MAC and ancient Craftsman from when I first started in the 80’s, my boxes are Snappy and cost a fortune. Your skill makes you, not the tool brand. With the exception of specialty tools I use some of good alternative brands now.
Starting out get something good with a warranty that you can afford. Once you have gotten established and have a nice bank account then you can start looking at the more expensive tool truck brands if that's what you have always wanted. Don't go into debt early in your career when you can wait just a couple of years and not have to finance tools to start building that Snap-on collection you have wanted since you were 14. I'm not for or against any tool brand it's just a damn tool to get a job done, worry about doing a good job. Stay the hell out of debt.
You stated, "If thats what you always wanted" . I never look at tools like that. Its what I need to get my job done right in a quicker more effective way. I got In trouble when I first started out wanting the shiny new toy. Thank God I was able to break that habit and get out from under thumb of the Snap-on mafia.
Another good vid! And your opinion I totally agree, I’m not a 40+ hour a week mechanic, that being said I do enjoy turning wrench and working on my own trucks, equipment etc! It make NO sense to me “imho” to spend that much on a COMMON tool! Yes if it’s a special tool or one you put food on ur table with,,,,,absolutely! Great vid, great teaching! And as ALWAYS, watching ur vids is like walking into one of my friends shop, brother don’t change nothing ur doing! Gods blessed you with a platform, and ur making sense! Keep rolling! If ur taking request,,,,,,,snap on is so stinking high, most of my friends don’t even bother unless it’s specialty, but maybe a comparison with Icon against ur lower end stuff anyway like ur tekton, kobalt, husky, the “”more affordable” tools just a thought, great job friend!
Great video! I'm a photographer, and it's exactly the same with camera gear. So many people spend thousands on gear yet take terrible photographs. One of my most popular and loved photos was taken with a relatively inexpensive point and shoot camera. High end gear is great, but ultimately it's the photographer that will make a photo good or bad.
I especially don’t buy specialty tools off the trucks because they rebrand most of that stuff. They’re all selling Lisle, OTC, Lang et al rebranded tools, after they about double the price. Mac is owned by Stanley/Black and Decker, Matco only makes tool boxes (all their other tools are made FOR them) and Snappy (although they make some of their own stuff) either sells stuff made in China just like everyone else or, they assemble stuff in the US that was made in China.
The finally got a few Icon things at my HF. I was looking at them today. The small chrome non-cushin grip 1/4" ratchets had an unbelievable amount of back drag, maybe the worst I have ever felt in my life (i find that so annoying when I am trying to get a bolt out and it starts turning it both ways) The larger ones were okay though, but pretty thick large heads. The sockets are okay but a much thicker wall than I thought. The combos are beautiful wrenches and will really compete with Snap On in a big way. The reversible ratcheting wrenches not so much. They are bigger on the ratchet end than Snappy's (which is huge for clearance), and they have quite a bit of back drag as well. They are good for the money, but not as good as my Snappy and Williams ratcheting wrenches.
@behexen250 I don't know if HF would want me doing that with their display model. I didn't buy any I just looked. I got me some Pittsburgh sockets though!
@@Jackofallmasterofnone94 you would think that, but i happen to have a flyer next to me that shows nearly every icon tool listing have a little notation that specifically says "compare to snap-on blue-point" with a part number, even the 1/4 in ratched this guy is talking about is on the first page of the icon hand tool website showing "compare to snap-on t72 at $94.25 save 70%"
The only issue I have with Icon is they're crazy if they think I'm dropping that money on a tool box when any reputable tool dealer can get you close, or even below those prices. I'm not a tool truck junkie, I've got two boxes 55" and 72" boxes(snap-on) but inside is everything from craftsman, proto, greenlee, us general to Mac matco and snap-on. I don't care what tools you run, but imho snap-on has the thinnest sockets, and slimmest wrenches for tight knuckle busting places. Out of all the brands, craftsman might be the worst and will only grab a craftsman tool if I have to modify or beat on it to get a job done. Just my 0.02c
And the replacement policy for the Icon is the same as Pittsburg. Seen rumors you have to take it to HF and they will mail you a new one. Nope. They will take it out of an existing set and that opened set will go into the office and dealt with by HF.
Great info, I'm not a mechanic. I do some of my own car work mostly maintenance and brake jobs. However I really enjoy watching your vids, you are passionate and do not seem bought and sold by channel sponsors like many other channels out there. Genuinely passionate good content that will save many a young mechanic the stresses of years of debt, if they take the time to heed what you're saying 👍🏽
Awesome speech, and yes those tools do the job I own them for my every day job the only time I broke them is when I abuse them but still HF has my back with the warranty on the spot
I’ve done every job under the sun (not really but you get the point) and there isn’t one tool or one company I couldn’t live without. I’ve gotten some of the shittiest jobs done with bare minimal inexpensive tools. The only tool that honestly I couldn’t live without is ratcheting wrenches. These were a game changer to the industry. My Gearwrench double box end ratcheting wrenches are the best tools I’ve ever invested in.
The Pittsburgh 3/8 comfort grip extra length, saved my bacon getting a 02 semsor out. I thought for sure I was going to bust the ratchet, but I didnt and broke the sensor free. I would have preferred to use a 1/2" with a adapter, but the ones I have don't have the length. Needless to say, I'm going to HF and getting the 1/2" Pittsburgh ratchet. The tool did me right. No complaints.
I partially agree. Specialty tools aside, basic Hf wrenches suck. The icons I havent seen and from reviews may try em. Been buying tekton mostly. May upgrade my wrenches to icon. Not sure. Alot of my tools are buys for comfortably. Appericate the honest opinion!
Picked up new ⅜ icon ratchet friday. Saturday i rebuilt front end on my girls 99 2 door tahoe and used it in place of snap on (my usual primary ratchet). I was extremely happy with its performance!!!!! Had an 18" cheater pipe on it multiple times, the ratchet never skipped a beat!!! Felt like a quality tool in My hand the whole time, had to double check and make sure but for $35 cant go wrong.
I noticed the icon brand many of there tools are snap on copies I do a lot of work on my cars I purchased tools from Harbor Freight a few years ago to fix the Air Conditioning in my car. It did the job. I agree with the idea buy what you can afford. Then work your way up.
Man you ain’t lying, I’ve rebuilt a lot of diesels and restored my 00 Cummins and built it with cheap and these icon tools, I want some snap on and Matco tools but some people do one job a year with a snap on and drink with their pinky out 😂 You either good or you shit, tools just help define that
The best way to go about buying tools is to have a good balance. Buy ratchets, sockets, wrenches, etc from other, more inexpensive brands. And then tools like pry bars, picks, and torque wrenches should be bought through Snap On or another tool truck brand. Plenty of good companies like Tekton and Gearwrench make great ratchets and sockets.
I think a better comparison in price would be comparing like items with each other, basic metric or standard socket sets in 1/4 3/8 and 1/2 a ratchet in each drive as well, to basic combination wrench sets in standard and metric, pliers, screw drivers, hammers, and a small service carts. Using the us general gen 2 service cart, fill it with just a basic starter kit. Price out all tools comparing icon, to snap on, Mac, matco or cornwell. Just something to show beginners what you would generally use starting out, or even for the diy guys. I’ve seen people show personall top 5’s for beginners all over TH-cam , have not seen an overall what you would normally need as a beginner or diy mechanic. I’d love to see a mini series on that. Have some ideas for a kit kind of like that,if you need or want any.
I'm a Mac Tools diehard! Plus my Man Man is the best! And has been for 25 years! But Icon is changing the game. I wanted Mac Tools ratcheting wrench set but where it was made made me buy Icon. And my Mac Man said he couldn't blame me!!!!
I like this. I think this is how all fresh apprentices should be pushed towards. Get you making money right out the gate. To many videos of “the perfect apprentice box” 15,000$ box with 2 drawers half full of tool truck products. Nah you go the Home Depot pick up a 52” rolling bottom for 400$ Canadian you go pay 600$ on what you had there and you’re making money. For less then 1000$ then you go pawn shop to pawn shop pick through the 20 cent loose sockets find some good rare goodies as well as complete 1/4” metric, sae sets 3/8” metric, sae sets 1/2” so on so forth. I won’t lie I’ve got a socket drawer worth 6-8 grand but a lot of those sockets were bought at pawn shops where I paid 15-40 cents a piece I paid 30 cents a piece for the 40-50 random snap on , Mac sockets I found lying in the haystack. First spend little to make $$$ and get that ticket then do whatever you want. I eventually moved home the original pawnshop sockets and what not perfectly functioning box at home now and the replacements are at work the second socket drawer I built is much more then 6-8 grand but I got that using my less expensive tools Great vids man !
I am a dealership mechanic and probably 80% of my tools come from harbor freight with no issues. I do think that it is worth spending more from a tool truck for precision tools like a DMM or torque wrench or something, but for the most part, cheap tools work fine.
Any company can get a nicer product made. So using "it's HF it's crap." doesn't really hold up imo. A metallurgist or someone similar really analyze the quality of the steel would solve a lot of arguments around what you get for the price you're paying. Would be interesting to see. I don't have a dog in the race since I don't plan on buying much Icon stuff, but it's something I would like to see. That's all you got for $700 off a truck? Holy crap.
Skip the chrome and get some impacts, Electric impact over a snap on ratchet. And get the icon non ratchet wrench. for a ratchet get the best you can afford will use it all day.
The tool trucks should appreciate what Icon is doing because the apprentice who can't afford tool truck prices is the future of the tool truck when he becomes a seasoned journeyman. Seasoned journeymen should appreciate what Icon is doing so they don't have to loan out their good shit to the apprentice. In my life as a millwright, that's just how it worked. You started out with Cmann and worked into the good shit as time and money allowed. This was the good ole days before Cmann went cheap.
Yes i do now i know the impact sockets are coming out soon but as far as the other stuff i would say yes at some point. Thanks for the question and for watching Jesse.
Jesse that would be fantastic, definitely some semi deep sockets in chrome and impact. Wandering what the wrench line up will look like. Icon made ratcheting reversible stubbies which was impressive. Wander if they will come out with a set of extra long ratcheting like cornwell and tekton has.
The stupid argument for people that paid WAY too much for tools: “Better Quality.” My argument: “If only Harbor Freight had a LIFETIME WARRANTY on their Pittsburg Pro and Icon tools….. 🙄”
Great video. I think Icon can be a great alternative to the tool trucks when starting out. If your not completely happy with them a few years later when your established in the trade, you can start swapping them out then...when you can better financially afford it. You may find you like SK sockets better but Matco ratchets better. Their is plenty of time to figure it out. It is a new kid on the block and ofcourse all the bullies are gonna pick on them till they prove themselves over the test of time. Everyone should buy the best quality they can afford at the time. Don't get in over your head early in your career. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and many are more than willing to share their's...just like I have. Don't let anyone bully you. Take pride in what you do and what you have. Don't listen to the hype or the haters. As for me, the Icon line is to rich for my blood. I'll stick to my mix match craftsman, snap on, Pittsburgh, and mac sockets...of which I can only warranty the craftsman and Pittsburgh ones. The others are second hand and tool truck drivers won't warranty them.
My Snap On dealer has gotten quite salty over my recent move. Sold my Epiq tool box and went to ICON. He likely sees me as a traitor for not rolling a $50-100 weekly payment to him for eternity. His concern is not for me.
If that's not an eye opener for some people I don't know what is... another thing I would add to the list of stuff you need in quality is air tools. I had a craftsman 1/2 impact and it wouldnt break loose hardly anything, I then snagged a good deal on a Snappy 3/8 impact and same air compressor same air pressure it would break loose what the 1/2 Crapsman wouldnt. Air tools is something you cant skimp on
Years ago there was a large disparity between tool trucks and what you could buy elsewhere, this is no longer true. I was at Harbor Freight today and I was checking out the icon tools and from the looks of them they look legit. I wish these kind of options were available 35 years ago when I started wrenching. I hope the youngsters out there don't get intimidated by The Fanboys and choose their tools and their money wisely. So many options out there.
I got on the mac truck for short 1/2 sockets. 10- 25 he wanted $399 for the set. I still bought sockets from him but I bought the grey pneumatic 10 through 36 and it was 172. So there's nothing wrong with buying from the tool trucks just be smart about it
No there's nothing wrong with doing whatever each man wants to do but i just have a problem with the guys that make you think there is something wrong because you dont own 50,000 dollars worth of tools. I get on the tool trucks often but as far as basic hand tools go i would rather save money and spend it where I feel like i need it. I dont dog anyone for their choices either which way. Thanks for pointing that out and sharing your experience.
Great video, I have some of the Pittsburgh hand tools that are over 15 years old now and have always done the job they were designed to do, could some been better quality? Sure but for what they charged who’s going to complain? Was just in harbor freight the other day and was impressed with the Icon Brand. Don’t really need any hand tools right now, like you said, I have back ups for my back ups but it’s definitely an affordable alternative.
25 plus years in the game. I agree. And any trash tech think otherwise. Let them be. Wash your hands with them jokers and keep it moving. I use some icon wrench on a power steering pump. Bolt was tight...... took it right off. I love them Milwaukee and dewalt tools too. They out doing Snap-on. I wont touch a 3/8 to 1/2 impact tool. They better wake up soon or they going to be the next craftsman out come. Rip sears.
You wouldn’t believe how many tools I was able to get at home depot, lowes, or Napa!? No shit you’re going to get more bang for the buck at harborfreight versus a tool truck. You’re going to get more food at McDonald’s then you are going to get at a steak house. Same concept.
I used to work at Ace Hardware and I would have people ask me about craftsman handtools, I would say there are better tools for better prices, but the same people that go out and buy china craftsman talk shit about HF tools or anything that costs less than 100 bucks.
I'd be more concerned if $500.00 hundred dollars vs $700.00 dollars was "all the money you make" from turning wrenchs. Even apprentices make well over that in heavy duty truck shops.
I'm seeing a lot of people buying to try them and not getting the comfort grip because they say it's bulky, hard plastic and garbage. You think they might want to fix that
Icon from HF is gonna destroy all of the tool trucks. Icon tools make sense for the average mechanic because at the end of the day it all comes down to money and the value for your money.
Just wondering if the Icon non slip wrench's would be or are better than the x frame by S&K or the Joker wrench by Wiha. Those 2 sets are non slip also
I can't say if they are or not brother if we are talking about build quality or value then the answer may change but i personally have never used either of those wrenches. I wouldn't mind trying them though.
Dag man I see what you trying to do ..but you can only show what you have in your possession to display and demonstrate when providing the viewers with a clear cut vision ... I dont own any Icon Tools but I do own alotta High end Quality equipment and just like you said mostly every mechanic has a back up ...My back up is layed out in 3 different layers but my 3rd layer testically compared to the first 2 is not of a tool truck Brand but is trying to come up in the automotive field with some real good Quality and a authentic design line of tools which is Milwaukee...Now I do own just about everything that they have to offer especially when coming to there hand tools and General service socket sets and wrenches which not for nothing the Quality on them are just completely different testically to all the tool truck equipment I possess....You know the SNAP-ON and Matco and MAC is always going to be what it is which I use all of this equipment daily but when I handle the equipment I have by Milwaukee...I dont know it's just different....you know the saying when you hold a Quality tool you can feel the difference....mostly ppl will say that when handling a SNAP-ON Ratchet testically Compared to just say a Pittsburgh Ratchet but the point I'm trying to make is that these Milwaukee Sets Give me that feeling to a SNAP-ON like how a SNAP-ON would be to a Pittsburgh Now as your Displaying a actual MSRP Price Comparison amongst the tools in Demonstration I'm viewing what's layed out on the table and you made a key point about you should be able to get your job done so when I'm seeing the Price differential I'm saying to myself dag man how you are showing this if you had the full 1/4" 50pc service set and 3/8" 56pc then both sets of just simply the combination open ends not even the ratcheting and the 2 service sets come with ratchets extensions and swivels all Metric and SAE in each set which is a decent reasonable amount of tools that don't exceed the price range that you were displaying but you definitely hit some key points I see exactly what you are showing and I made this statement because you went compare a wrench set a Ratchet and a Chisel set to a variety of tools by a non tool truck Brand
How did the chrome get bad from the store to home ?? I have had icon tools home for well mover a year and the chrome is like brand new. At least you were able to get replacements right away.
Speciality tools included. I'll buy cheap and try it out. My harbor freight balljoint press has worked flawlessly, even in the rain. Don't forget for odd ball speciality tools, Amazon has good prices and reviews to match. So do your homework.
I like how harbor freight is getting quality tools now, but at same time they are known for budget friendly... Lots of companies have made equivalent tools for awhile now so I don't see this as revolutionary and the prices aren't what I'd expect.. think channelocks,Williams,sk,Mayhew and couple others.. specially if u price shop and these are proven brands and to an OCD person only having a few icon tools wouldn't cut it. Otherwise I like how they are getting quality just think they missed Mark on pricing being no track record and it is harbor freight
I get that i just think theyare trying to expand to quality at good prices and not just cheap tools whether it works out or not we will see. Thanks for your input Chris.
@@RedemptionGarage I agree and don't wanna sound like a hater at all. I just know myself wanting best tool for money I shop around for deals, warranty etc. Not saying any of it is bad by any means I'm just saying as a poor man trying to get buy I may go another way. I do understand this is professional type line for em and it don't fit all budgets but with the internet and some knowledge there is lots of "snap on" quality for less money. Thanks for taking the time to show all this and break it down for everyone.
@@chrisjones6165 Complete agree; excellent tools can be had for very little money. How? Here's an example: Quite a few tools on Amazon live on an algorithm that keeps lowering the price until a purchase is made. Fill your cart with the tools you want, then check it at least once a day for pricing changes. Another example, say you're looking for a hammer. Search the entire site for hammers and then sort by lowest price. You'll instantly see the algorithm errors. It's absolutely remarkable how little can be paid for desirable tools.
The only thing I buy off of a tool truck are specialty tools. I get to take my Wife and Kid's on vacation every year twice plus buy expensive ball pythons, guns, and have a 9 second Buick GS. And the reason I have it all is because my box cost me 800 instead of 15k, I have every tool needed for under 10k and haven't had to buy off of a truck for 3 years. I should have went into owning a tool truck then I wouldn't have to beat my hands up because there's a million sucker's out there spending 25% of their paychecks or more on tools. I think every mechanic out there should go through a finances class and realize they're being suckered by these tool corporations. Also kids remember to buy off the drug user's at your shop because they give the best deals.......
Yeah man. Icon has the same warrenty that Snap-on has. That's why they're good. If a pos tool has a lifetime warrenty, at least you know that you'll be able to get another tool for free when it breaks.
Even with the speciality tools go check out the internet before you buy from the tool truck. You can often find a tool that is just as good if not better than the trucks tool on the internet and save enough dough to buy the tool 2 or 3 times before coming to the price point of the tool trucks.
You should try reduce this video maybe not using tools on hand but with all the same tools from different tool vendors. Like making up a set for 1/4, 3/8 drive sockets and ratchets and wrench set the the MSRP cost difference.
@@RedemptionGarage I would rather get them for free like most lazy you tubers that have to make videos to pay thier bills instead of getting a job like real men do. And I can't understand how someone can push a product so hard without even having a clue of the quality of the product maybe after a year or so of use then see if it holds up. To me pushing a new product without truly knowing the quality of the product is the same as being dishonest a good example would be a used car salesman! just saying
Hey I hear you but I have a guy at work who told me he wants all his stuff to say Snap-on he dislikes to be able to know he has everything Snap-on. Wow thats crazy
If a wrench or socket doesn't round off bolts and has a lifetime warranty who cares if it breaks. I bought a lot of my basics before Amazon was what it is now and I only watched the occasional how to video on TH-cam. I hope guys starting out pay attention.
So if we are going to go off best bang for beginning mechanics which would be students because you need basic tools to go to tech school shouldn’t we go off the tool truck student price? If you compare student price to icon price because to my knowledge there is no icon student price then they are very close. Close enough I think you can justify spending the few extra bucks to buy the well known been around forever brand vs the brand new no history Taiwanese tool
Icon send the mutha-fakin check to this man! I wanna fill my box up with icon..... luckily I just got into being a aviation technician and I haven’t fallin tooo far down in the snap on hole. Don’t get me wrong Snap-on tool are GREAT but their prices are not😂
I checked out the new Icon tools today. They are just overpriced for what they are. If you want my opinion, the Channellock branded Taiwan tools are better across the board except for the ratchets. The wrenches are the exact same wrenches at 1/2 the price. The sockets have better fit finish and features for around 10 to 15 less. Now lets look at ratchets. I can buy Wright Tool made in USA for what these cost. Or Gear Wrench for significantly less. Ill be honest, to me when you buy Icon you are paying for fancy packaging. Drop the cell phone looking boxes and stupid plastic cases and drop your prices. Then id buy it.
I'll buy off the tool truck still and where ever ,I want to ,I spread the love around , would I buy icon no cause I already have all the tools that they are selling ,and the tool box doesn't impressed me ,at least snap on matco Mac you have alot of colors to choose from not just a few ,I think snap on has the most selection of colors .
@@RedemptionGarage That matco ratchet looks like the bfr128lfg which would be 168.96. You seam to have the price down for the 15 inch (BFR158LFG)or the black ratchet (BFR128BLFG). Unless you have one of those dealers who over charges, which comes down to the district manager they have and they might not even know.
Wont be a lot longer it takes a while to be doing everything i am trying to do and have to enter all of those names and everything thanks for asking Lee
Well said but everything has a fan base Harley guys, peterbuilt , Ford guys, Chevy guys everything is like fat girls don't knock them till you try them.Lol
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Which would you rather have?
Redemption Garage ICON all day long brother. Bang for the buck.
Icon ! Lifetime warranty,good quality, reasonable price what's not to like.
Buy the cheaper stuff and put your savings into your retirement account.
Amen!
Pittsburg!
I'm a independent shop tech I work on every freaking type of vehicle imaginable, I have multiple brands of tools including recently added Icon tools so far great tools no complaints.
Famous quote from redemption garage “As good as you are or as good as you ain’t.” 👍
I do a lot of leather tooling on the side, and have spent thousands of dollars on buying the best tools money can buy. I met a guy whose in the top 5% in the world. His work is stunning. He had only a handful of very cheap tools, and he does the most beautiful work you ever seen.
I learned a great lesson from this man. For most of your tools, you can get bye with whatever’s on hand, when you need something special which is going to be used frequently, then spend on something quality, but even then it might not need to be the best (sometimes it does)
A great lesson to learn and I have learned the same exact lesson over the years. Thank you for sharing that Bryan.
I’ve always said, the tools do not make the craftsman.
@@PaulyD0859 I've always said it's better to buy quality than to have a cheap tool break in the middle of a job. It's frustrating, time consuming and can screw up your whole schedule not to mention a job not getting done on time. And there goes the money you saved on the cheapo's ! That's me. I had a ratchet break, an extension break, screw drivers and pliers in the past to name just a few.
I’m a motorcycle mechanic and everyone in my shop uses my tools daily and I use icon. I have left my Mac tools at home due to everyone using my tools and truly love the icon line up.
Straight up truth, your skill is what makes the mechanic, like most I have a mix of Snappy, Matco, MAC and ancient Craftsman from when I first started in the 80’s, my boxes are Snappy and cost a fortune. Your skill makes you, not the tool brand. With the exception of specialty tools I use some of good alternative brands now.
Starting out get something good with a warranty that you can afford. Once you have gotten established and have a nice bank account then you can start looking at the more expensive tool truck brands if that's what you have always wanted. Don't go into debt early in your career when you can wait just a couple of years and not have to finance tools to start building that Snap-on collection you have wanted since you were 14. I'm not for or against any tool brand it's just a damn tool to get a job done, worry about doing a good job. Stay the hell out of debt.
You stated, "If thats what you always wanted" . I never look at tools like that. Its what I need to get my job done right in a quicker more effective way. I got In trouble when I first started out wanting the shiny new toy. Thank God I was able to break that habit and get out from under thumb of the Snap-on mafia.
There was a mobile mechanic on you tube along tine ago.....you know what he used to fix cars...a set of tools from all trade that were sold at kmart
LongIslandP8ntball link?
One of the reasons I quit being a mechanic was having to sign my paycheck over every week.
Sounds like you just made really bad financial decisions lol
@@ertren6 lol, we had a rule. If you have to borrow a tool twice you had to buy one. It adds up real fast.
@@bkpickell my guy. I assure you home depot and lowes would have been far better financial choices
The man makes the tools. True. Like anything, more money doesn't always make stuff more better.
Another good vid! And your opinion I totally agree, I’m not a 40+ hour a week mechanic, that being said I do enjoy turning wrench and working on my own trucks, equipment etc! It make NO sense to me “imho” to spend that much on a COMMON tool! Yes if it’s a special tool or one you put food on ur table with,,,,,absolutely! Great vid, great teaching! And as ALWAYS, watching ur vids is like walking into one of my friends shop, brother don’t change nothing ur doing! Gods blessed you with a platform, and ur making sense! Keep rolling! If ur taking request,,,,,,,snap on is so stinking high, most of my friends don’t even bother unless it’s specialty, but maybe a comparison with Icon against ur lower end stuff anyway like ur tekton, kobalt, husky, the “”more affordable” tools just a thought, great job friend!
Great video! I'm a photographer, and it's exactly the same with camera gear. So many people spend thousands on gear yet take terrible photographs. One of my most popular and loved photos was taken with a relatively inexpensive point and shoot camera. High end gear is great, but ultimately it's the photographer that will make a photo good or bad.
Yep, some of my favorite photos were taking with a cheap plastic Holga 120 format camera.
Great point on not being a slave to the weekly tool bill. Buy good quality with a lifetime warranty and that's the best way to go. Cheers!
I especially don’t buy specialty tools off the trucks because they rebrand most of that stuff. They’re all selling Lisle, OTC, Lang et al rebranded tools, after they about double the price. Mac is owned by Stanley/Black and Decker, Matco only makes tool boxes (all their other tools are made FOR them) and Snappy (although they make some of their own stuff) either sells stuff made in China just like everyone else or, they assemble stuff in the US that was made in China.
That is true Pauly I try to check around as well.
The finally got a few Icon things at my HF. I was looking at them today. The small chrome non-cushin grip 1/4" ratchets had an unbelievable amount of back drag, maybe the worst I have ever felt in my life (i find that so annoying when I am trying to get a bolt out and it starts turning it both ways) The larger ones were okay though, but pretty thick large heads. The sockets are okay but a much thicker wall than I thought. The combos are beautiful wrenches and will really compete with Snap On in a big way. The reversible ratcheting wrenches not so much. They are bigger on the ratchet end than Snappy's (which is huge for clearance), and they have quite a bit of back drag as well. They are good for the money, but not as good as my Snappy and Williams ratcheting wrenches.
@behexen250 I don't know if HF would want me doing that with their display model. I didn't buy any I just looked. I got me some Pittsburgh sockets though!
Thanks for the info brother
Love my SK x frame ratchet wrenches super low profile.
Wera Joker wrenches for the win
@@Jackofallmasterofnone94 you would think that, but i happen to have a flyer next to me that shows nearly every icon tool listing have a little notation that specifically says "compare to snap-on blue-point" with a part number, even the 1/4 in ratched this guy is talking about is on the first page of the icon hand tool website showing "compare to snap-on t72 at $94.25 save 70%"
The only issue I have with Icon is they're crazy if they think I'm dropping that money on a tool box when any reputable tool dealer can get you close, or even below those prices. I'm not a tool truck junkie, I've got two boxes 55" and 72" boxes(snap-on) but inside is everything from craftsman, proto, greenlee, us general to Mac matco and snap-on. I don't care what tools you run, but imho snap-on has the thinnest sockets, and slimmest wrenches for tight knuckle busting places. Out of all the brands, craftsman might be the worst and will only grab a craftsman tool if I have to modify or beat on it to get a job done. Just my 0.02c
I have been loving icon the ratchets do need a shot of grease and then omg there so so smooth
And the replacement policy for the Icon is the same as Pittsburg. Seen rumors you have to take it to HF and they will mail you a new one. Nope. They will take it out of an existing set and that opened set will go into the office and dealt with by HF.
Mark I Warrantied out a icon 1/4 ratchet no problem yesterday!!! Same as anything else in there
Great info, I'm not a mechanic. I do some of my own car work mostly maintenance and brake jobs. However I really enjoy watching your vids, you are passionate and do not seem bought and sold by channel sponsors like many other channels out there. Genuinely passionate good content that will save many a young mechanic the stresses of years of debt, if they take the time to heed what you're saying 👍🏽
I appreciate that brother I really do!
Awesome speech, and yes those tools do the job I own them for my every day job the only time I broke them is when I abuse them but still HF has my back with the warranty on the spot
I am a heavy duty deisle mechanic and I have no matco Mac or snap on.. and I never had an issue with any of my tools.
I’ve done every job under the sun (not really but you get the point) and there isn’t one tool or one company I couldn’t live without. I’ve gotten some of the shittiest jobs done with bare minimal inexpensive tools. The only tool that honestly I couldn’t live without is ratcheting wrenches. These were a game changer to the industry. My Gearwrench double box end ratcheting wrenches are the best tools I’ve ever invested in.
The Pittsburgh 3/8 comfort grip extra length, saved my bacon getting a 02 semsor out. I thought for sure I was going to bust the ratchet, but I didnt and broke the sensor free. I would have preferred to use a 1/2" with a adapter, but the ones I have don't have the length. Needless to say, I'm going to HF and getting the 1/2" Pittsburgh ratchet. The tool did me right. No complaints.
I partially agree. Specialty tools aside, basic Hf wrenches suck. The icons I havent seen and from reviews may try em. Been buying tekton mostly. May upgrade my wrenches to icon. Not sure. Alot of my tools are buys for comfortably. Appericate the honest opinion!
Picked up new ⅜ icon ratchet friday. Saturday i rebuilt front end on my girls 99 2 door tahoe and used it in place of snap on (my usual primary ratchet). I was extremely happy with its performance!!!!! Had an 18" cheater pipe on it multiple times, the ratchet never skipped a beat!!! Felt like a quality tool in My hand the whole time, had to double check and make sure but for $35 cant go wrong.
Thanks for sharing that Jim!
I noticed the icon brand many of there tools are snap on copies
I do a lot of work on my cars
I purchased tools from Harbor Freight a few years ago to fix the
Air Conditioning in my car. It did the job. I agree with the idea buy what you can afford. Then work your way up.
The man make the tool. But it’s nice to have both. Good tools and good mechanic 👨🔧
Man you ain’t lying, I’ve rebuilt a lot of diesels and restored my 00 Cummins and built it with cheap and these icon tools, I want some snap on and Matco tools but some people do one job a year with a snap on and drink with their pinky out 😂
You either good or you shit, tools just help define that
The best way to go about buying tools is to have a good balance. Buy ratchets, sockets, wrenches, etc from other, more inexpensive brands. And then tools like pry bars, picks, and torque wrenches should be bought through Snap On or another tool truck brand. Plenty of good companies like Tekton and Gearwrench make great ratchets and sockets.
I think a better comparison in price would be comparing like items with each other, basic metric or standard socket sets in 1/4 3/8 and 1/2 a ratchet in each drive as well, to basic combination wrench sets in standard and metric, pliers, screw drivers, hammers, and a small service carts. Using the us general gen 2 service cart, fill it with just a basic starter kit. Price out all tools comparing icon, to snap on, Mac, matco or cornwell. Just something to show beginners what you would generally use starting out, or even for the diy guys. I’ve seen people show personall top 5’s for beginners all over TH-cam , have not seen an overall what you would normally need as a beginner or diy mechanic. I’d love to see a mini series on that. Have some ideas for a kit kind of like that,if you need or want any.
Great idea James I appreciate that and appreciate you watching man
I love the filling a cart idea. Could probably pull a couple of videos out of it.
I'm a Mac Tools diehard! Plus my Man Man is the best! And has been for 25 years! But Icon is changing the game. I wanted Mac Tools ratcheting wrench set but where it was made made me buy Icon. And my Mac Man said he couldn't blame me!!!!
I like this. I think this is how all fresh apprentices should be pushed towards. Get you making money right out the gate. To many videos of “the perfect apprentice box” 15,000$ box with 2 drawers half full of tool truck products. Nah you go the Home Depot pick up a 52” rolling bottom for 400$ Canadian you go pay 600$ on what you had there and you’re making money. For less then 1000$ then you go pawn shop to pawn shop pick through the 20 cent loose sockets find some good rare goodies as well as complete 1/4” metric, sae sets
3/8” metric, sae sets
1/2” so on so forth.
I won’t lie I’ve got a socket drawer worth 6-8 grand but a lot of those sockets were bought at pawn shops where I paid 15-40 cents a piece I paid 30 cents a piece for the 40-50 random snap on , Mac sockets I found lying in the haystack.
First spend little to make $$$ and get that ticket then do whatever you want. I eventually moved home the original pawnshop sockets and what not perfectly functioning box at home now and the replacements are at work the second socket drawer I built is much more then 6-8 grand but I got that using my less expensive tools
Great vids man !
Thank you for your input brother!
The person barreling down the highway coming at you at 100 mph fixed the breaks and wheels with Pittsburgh tools from Harbor Freight.
I am a dealership mechanic and probably 80% of my tools come from harbor freight with no issues. I do think that it is worth spending more from a tool truck for precision tools like a DMM or torque wrench or something, but for the most part, cheap tools work fine.
Any company can get a nicer product made. So using "it's HF it's crap." doesn't really hold up imo. A metallurgist or someone similar really analyze the quality of the steel would solve a lot of arguments around what you get for the price you're paying. Would be interesting to see. I don't have a dog in the race since I don't plan on buying much Icon stuff, but it's something I would like to see.
That's all you got for $700 off a truck? Holy crap.
Skip the chrome and get some impacts, Electric impact over a snap on ratchet. And get the icon non ratchet wrench. for a ratchet get the best you can afford will use it all day.
I agree with you there brother
Great video brother keep up the good work
Icon and Quinn tools are great tools.
They'll last as long as Snap-on, or any other.
The tool trucks should appreciate what Icon is doing because the apprentice who can't afford tool truck prices is the future of the tool truck when he becomes a seasoned journeyman. Seasoned journeymen should appreciate what Icon is doing so they don't have to loan out their good shit to the apprentice. In my life as a millwright, that's just how it worked. You started out with Cmann and worked into the good shit as time and money allowed. This was the good ole days before Cmann went cheap.
I agree with you completely John thanks for your input
Preach brother!!! As I type this my dumbass just bought new snap-on gloves and light 😂😂😂🙄🙄
Lmao I feel you on that
You think icon will make other tools like the universal sockets or impact sockets or torx etc?
Yes i do now i know the impact sockets are coming out soon but as far as the other stuff i would say yes at some point. Thanks for the question and for watching Jesse.
Jesse that would be fantastic, definitely some semi deep sockets in chrome and impact. Wandering what the wrench line up will look like. Icon made ratcheting reversible stubbies which was impressive. Wander if they will come out with a set of extra long ratcheting like cornwell and tekton has.
Redemption Garage cool thanks keep us updated 👍
@behexen250 I have a similar set from Capri. Use them mostly with an impact. No issues at all so far.
The stupid argument for people that paid WAY too much for tools: “Better Quality.”
My argument: “If only Harbor Freight had a LIFETIME WARRANTY on their Pittsburg Pro and Icon tools….. 🙄”
Good video. Totally agree.
great video my hft didnt have anything out yet.keep up the great videos plus my hft will not be getting the tool box
Great video. I think Icon can be a great alternative to the tool trucks when starting out. If your not completely happy with them a few years later when your established in the trade, you can start swapping them out then...when you can better financially afford it. You may find you like SK sockets better but Matco ratchets better. Their is plenty of time to figure it out.
It is a new kid on the block and ofcourse all the bullies are gonna pick on them till they prove themselves over the test of time.
Everyone should buy the best quality they can afford at the time. Don't get in over your head early in your career.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions and many are more than willing to share their's...just like I have. Don't let anyone bully you. Take pride in what you do and what you have. Don't listen to the hype or the haters.
As for me, the Icon line is to rich for my blood. I'll stick to my mix match craftsman, snap on, Pittsburgh, and mac sockets...of which I can only warranty the craftsman and Pittsburgh ones. The others are second hand and tool truck drivers won't warranty them.
Thank you for being straight up also! I'll support that!
My Snap On dealer has gotten quite salty over my recent move. Sold my Epiq tool box and went to ICON. He likely sees me as a traitor for not rolling a $50-100 weekly payment to him for eternity.
His concern is not for me.
If that's not an eye opener for some people I don't know what is... another thing I would add to the list of stuff you need in quality is air tools. I had a craftsman 1/2 impact and it wouldnt break loose hardly anything, I then snagged a good deal on a Snappy 3/8 impact and same air compressor same air pressure it would break loose what the 1/2 Crapsman wouldnt. Air tools is something you cant skimp on
I most definitely agree with that brother
Years ago there was a large disparity between tool trucks and what you could buy elsewhere, this is no longer true. I was at Harbor Freight today and I was checking out the icon tools and from the looks of them they look legit. I wish these kind of options were available 35 years ago when I started wrenching. I hope the youngsters out there don't get intimidated by The Fanboys and choose their tools and their money wisely. So many options out there.
I got on the mac truck for short 1/2 sockets. 10- 25 he wanted $399 for the set. I still bought sockets from him but I bought the grey pneumatic 10 through 36 and it was 172. So there's nothing wrong with buying from the tool trucks just be smart about it
No there's nothing wrong with doing whatever each man wants to do but i just have a problem with the guys that make you think there is something wrong because you dont own 50,000 dollars worth of tools. I get on the tool trucks often but as far as basic hand tools go i would rather save money and spend it where I feel like i need it. I dont dog anyone for their choices either which way. Thanks for pointing that out and sharing your experience.
What is grey pneumatic?
@@TheNottonight they make everything impact. Thats their mato. From sockets to extensions chisels everything
@@TheNottonight if you buy from the tool trucks you really need to check them out tool truck quality half the price
Great video, I have some of the Pittsburgh hand tools that are over 15 years old now and have always done the job they were designed to do, could some been better quality? Sure but for what they charged who’s going to complain? Was just in harbor freight the other day and was impressed with the Icon Brand. Don’t really need any hand tools right now, like you said, I have back ups for my back ups but it’s definitely an affordable alternative.
25 plus years in the game. I agree. And any trash tech think otherwise. Let them be. Wash your hands with them jokers and keep it moving. I use some icon wrench on a power steering pump. Bolt was tight...... took it right off. I love them Milwaukee and dewalt tools too. They out doing Snap-on. I wont touch a 3/8 to 1/2 impact tool. They better wake up soon or they going to be the next craftsman out come. Rip sears.
Goes to show u brother. I really hope these are good tools in the end
So do I Anthony and so far they seem good to me with what i have tried.
You wouldn’t believe how many tools I was able to get at home depot, lowes, or Napa!? No shit you’re going to get more bang for the buck at harborfreight versus a tool truck. You’re going to get more food at McDonald’s then you are going to get at a steak house. Same concept.
Okay lol yes it is the same concept except you dont spend $75,000 at a steakhouse
They named them snap on for a reason. Because they will snap on yanlike any other under pressure. 😂
I used to work at Ace Hardware and I would have people ask me about craftsman handtools, I would say there are better tools for better prices, but the same people that go out and buy china craftsman talk shit about HF tools or anything that costs less than 100 bucks.
I'd be more concerned if $500.00 hundred dollars vs $700.00 dollars was "all the money you make" from turning wrenchs. Even apprentices make well over that in heavy duty truck shops.
Decent amount of sockets and ratchets and wrenches for the price
I'm seeing a lot of people buying to try them and not getting the comfort grip because they say it's bulky, hard plastic and garbage. You think they might want to fix that
It is hard i dont mind it but its not my family
I have 6 ratchets or more for each size as well as sockets
Icon from HF is gonna destroy all of the tool trucks. Icon tools make sense for the average mechanic because at the end of the day it all comes down to money and the value for your money.
Thanks bro. The tool trucks are way overpriced?👍🏿
The Man makes the tools
Even cheap Pittsburgh tools you can still get the jobs done. It's a fact!
Just wondering if the Icon non slip wrench's would be or are better than the x frame by S&K or the Joker wrench by Wiha. Those 2 sets are non slip also
I can't say if they are or not brother if we are talking about build quality or value then the answer may change but i personally have never used either of those wrenches. I wouldn't mind trying them though.
Great video man!
Dag man I see what you trying to do ..but you can only show what you have in your possession to display and demonstrate when providing the viewers with a clear cut vision ... I dont own any Icon Tools but I do own alotta High end Quality equipment and just like you said mostly every mechanic has a back up ...My back up is layed out in 3 different layers but my 3rd layer testically compared to the first 2 is not of a tool truck Brand but is trying to come up in the automotive field with some real good Quality and a authentic design line of tools which is Milwaukee...Now I do own just about everything that they have to offer especially when coming to there hand tools and General service socket sets and wrenches which not for nothing the Quality on them are just completely different testically to all the tool truck equipment I possess....You know the SNAP-ON and Matco and MAC is always going to be what it is which I use all of this equipment daily but when I handle the equipment I have by Milwaukee...I dont know it's just different....you know the saying when you hold a Quality tool you can feel the difference....mostly ppl will say that when handling a SNAP-ON Ratchet testically Compared to just say a Pittsburgh Ratchet but the point I'm trying to make is that these Milwaukee Sets Give me that feeling to a SNAP-ON like how a SNAP-ON would be to a Pittsburgh Now as your Displaying a actual MSRP Price Comparison amongst the tools in Demonstration I'm viewing what's layed out on the table and you made a key point about you should be able to get your job done so when I'm seeing the Price differential I'm saying to myself dag man how you are showing this if you had the full 1/4" 50pc service set and 3/8" 56pc then both sets of just simply the combination open ends not even the ratcheting and the 2 service sets come with ratchets extensions and swivels all Metric and SAE in each set which is a decent reasonable amount of tools that don't exceed the price range that you were displaying but you definitely hit some key points I see exactly what you are showing and I made this statement because you went compare a wrench set a Ratchet and a Chisel set to a variety of tools by a non tool truck Brand
On the Harbor freight website thear is a 20 present off on the icon tools just put icon tools in the Search bar and go all the way down
Picked up couple icon ratchets today st harbor, chrome was bad on both had to take back.
How did the chrome get bad from the store to home ?? I have had icon tools home for well mover a year and the chrome is like brand new. At least you were able to get replacements right away.
I just started working at a Davis-Moore dealership and so far I'm known as the icon man lol everyone has over priced snap-on
Speciality tools included. I'll buy cheap and try it out. My harbor freight balljoint press has worked flawlessly, even in the rain. Don't forget for odd ball speciality tools, Amazon has good prices and reviews to match. So do your homework.
I like how harbor freight is getting quality tools now, but at same time they are known for budget friendly... Lots of companies have made equivalent tools for awhile now so I don't see this as revolutionary and the prices aren't what I'd expect.. think channelocks,Williams,sk,Mayhew and couple others.. specially if u price shop and these are proven brands and to an OCD person only having a few icon tools wouldn't cut it. Otherwise I like how they are getting quality just think they missed Mark on pricing being no track record and it is harbor freight
I get that i just think theyare trying to expand to quality at good prices and not just cheap tools whether it works out or not we will see. Thanks for your input Chris.
@@RedemptionGarage I agree and don't wanna sound like a hater at all. I just know myself wanting best tool for money I shop around for deals, warranty etc. Not saying any of it is bad by any means I'm just saying as a poor man trying to get buy I may go another way. I do understand this is professional type line for em and it don't fit all budgets but with the internet and some knowledge there is lots of "snap on" quality for less money. Thanks for taking the time to show all this and break it down for everyone.
@@chrisjones6165 Complete agree; excellent tools can be had for very little money. How? Here's an example: Quite a few tools on Amazon live on an algorithm that keeps lowering the price until a purchase is made. Fill your cart with the tools you want, then check it at least once a day for pricing changes. Another example, say you're looking for a hammer. Search the entire site for hammers and then sort by lowest price. You'll instantly see the algorithm errors. It's absolutely remarkable how little can be paid for desirable tools.
The only thing I buy off of a tool truck are specialty tools. I get to take my Wife and Kid's on vacation every year twice plus buy expensive ball pythons, guns, and have a 9 second Buick GS. And the reason I have it all is because my box cost me 800 instead of 15k, I have every tool needed for under 10k and haven't had to buy off of a truck for 3 years. I should have went into owning a tool truck then I wouldn't have to beat my hands up because there's a million sucker's out there spending 25% of their paychecks or more on tools. I think every mechanic out there should go through a finances class and realize they're being suckered by these tool corporations. Also kids remember to buy off the drug user's at your shop because they give the best deals.......
Yeah man. Icon has the same warrenty that Snap-on has. That's why they're good. If a pos tool has a lifetime warrenty, at least you know that you'll be able to get another tool for free when it breaks.
$738.90 for the Snap-on Matco and Mac tools
Even with the speciality tools go check out the internet before you buy from the tool truck. You can often find a tool that is just as good if not better than the trucks tool on the internet and save enough dough to buy the tool 2 or 3 times before coming to the price point of the tool trucks.
I agree with you most can be bought for less online for the same tool minus the tool truck name stamped on it. Thanks for sharing that Sean.
Great video redemption
Great video. I totally agree with everything you said.
Great video!
Thank you Frank
Tool trucks have 2 many rebrands nowadays... I'd go icon I guess unless tool truck says usa...think gearwrench better than icon ...
You should try reduce this video maybe not using tools on hand but with all the same tools from different tool vendors. Like making up a set for 1/4, 3/8 drive sockets and ratchets and wrench set the the MSRP cost difference.
Good idea brother
How do you go about brown nosing enough to get all of these free tools is what I want to know because I could really use some free ones myself
Or you could work for them like areal man? Just a thought
@@RedemptionGarage I would rather get them for free like most lazy you tubers that have to make videos to pay thier bills instead of getting a job like real men do. And I can't understand how someone can push a product so hard without even having a clue of the quality of the product maybe after a year or so of use then see if it holds up. To me pushing a new product without truly knowing the quality of the product is the same as being dishonest a good example would be a used car salesman! just saying
@@charlieclingan9273 lmao start you a youtube then brother you got it figured out... lame
Hey I hear you but I have a guy at work who told me he wants all his stuff to say Snap-on he dislikes to be able to know he has everything Snap-on. Wow thats crazy
Icon metal soft but so is Stanley...bet I can buy a whole isle of Stanley at Walmart for 500.00$$
What kind of mat do you have?
great video. thanks
Thank you David I appreciate that
Theres a guy on Instagram who already wore out 2 icon sockets. He pissed. He said the insides rounded out
LongIslandP8ntball “ a guy.” Huh? Probably the competition.i call bullshit!
what's the guys instagram? Would love to see this fake person
Hate buying tools out of a truck
If a wrench or socket doesn't round off bolts and has a lifetime warranty who cares if it breaks. I bought a lot of my basics before Amazon was what it is now and I only watched the occasional how to video on TH-cam. I hope guys starting out pay attention.
So if we are going to go off best bang for beginning mechanics which would be students because you need basic tools to go to tech school shouldn’t we go off the tool truck student price? If you compare student price to icon price because to my knowledge there is no icon student price then they are very close. Close enough I think you can justify spending the few extra bucks to buy the well known been around forever brand vs the brand new no history Taiwanese tool
We can and ICON is planning on offering the same discount so i figured i would just make it simple. But i get what you are saying and you are correct
Icon send the mutha-fakin check to this man! I wanna fill my box up with icon..... luckily I just got into being a aviation technician and I haven’t fallin tooo far down in the snap on hole. Don’t get me wrong Snap-on tool are GREAT but their prices are not😂
I checked out the new Icon tools today. They are just overpriced for what they are. If you want my opinion, the Channellock branded Taiwan tools are better across the board except for the ratchets. The wrenches are the exact same wrenches at 1/2 the price. The sockets have better fit finish and features for around 10 to 15 less. Now lets look at ratchets. I can buy Wright Tool made in USA for what these cost. Or Gear Wrench for significantly less.
Ill be honest, to me when you buy Icon you are paying for fancy packaging. Drop the cell phone looking boxes and stupid plastic cases and drop your prices. Then id buy it.
Thanks for your input brother
@@RedemptionGarage yeah man. Not trying to be down on icon, i do think they are quality. Just to high prices for what they are
@@user-ki3dj9pu9y hey man each man just has to do what he feels is right and best for him I'm not mad at you. Thanks again brother
How do you feel about buying a Teng tools kit for a mostly complete set of automotive tools with storage that’s about 7k?
Great point, icon is a great value professional tool
I'll buy off the tool truck still and where ever ,I want to ,I spread the love around , would I buy icon no cause I already have all the tools that they are selling ,and the tool box doesn't impressed me ,at least snap on matco Mac you have alot of colors to choose from not just a few ,I think snap on has the most selection of colors .
Nothin wrong with that buddy I will still buy off of the tool truck too for a lot of things I need.
@@RedemptionGarage That matco ratchet looks like the bfr128lfg which would be 168.96. You seam to have the price down for the 15 inch (BFR158LFG)or the black ratchet (BFR128BLFG). Unless you have one of those dealers who over charges, which comes down to the district manager they have and they might not even know.
@@TinoR626 I paid 174.99 for the ratchet personally the price i used was what was online for all tools. Thanks for pointing that out
@@RedemptionGarage www.matcotools.com/catalog/product/BFR128LFG/3-8-DRIVE-12-EIGHTY8-TOOTH-LOCKING-FLEX-RATCHET-WITH-ERGO-HANDLE-GREEN/
Who won the Hercules drill
Not done yet i will announce it when I'm ready
Wont be a lot longer it takes a while to be doing everything i am trying to do and have to enter all of those names and everything thanks for asking Lee
Pop bottles and watch this video my brother!
Well said but everything has a fan base Harley guys, peterbuilt , Ford guys, Chevy guys everything is like fat girls don't knock them till you try them.Lol
Lmao I agree with you brother thanks for the laugh
Now that i think about it i necer broke a 1/2 ratchet.
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