Melting some big Scrap Aluminum items In the Melting Pot today and a little mod to the melting Pot
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- Melting some big Scrap Aluminum items In the Melting Pot today and a little mod to the melting Pot
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Really great to see you enjoying your retirement! It is good that your share your skills & expertise with us. Enjoy!
giving everyone bad ideas, lol, it is fun and there are others that can use the idea to melt things. thanks for stopping by
You certainly had AL City @ 13:45!!!!!!
the good thing is I have a big tank full of water under the table. so the aluminum will run into the water, but at that speed it will build up, it can't cool off fast enough with that flow
Dumb question, Why don't the Cup Cake Pans melt when you pour in the Hot Metals?
they have a higher melting point. just like an ice tray would melt at a much higher temp. than the ice melts at
Why are you doing this they wont give tou a better price at the scrap yard?
I do this because I sell the ingots on eBay for $3.00 a lb.
You should look into getting a wireless microphone to use I've seen other TH-camrs use them and they work really well.
yeah, I need to do that, I filmed this with my gopro, with an external mic. you can see the windsock at the top of the frame blowing, I plan to order a cold shoe to move it up some but a wireless setup would be better.
Nice little upgrade, you should put a link to your ebay store in the description where you sell these. I’m thinking of building one similar that can fit whole car rims! Thanks for sharing the design with us
yes. I need to do that; at this time, I only have 1 10 lb. lot of copper ingots for sale.
Adding that blanket wool on the outside does seem to be working faster than your old setup. It's nice to see you out there using the waste oil burner again, thanks for the video.
yes, it has been a while, last year I sold a few 10 lb. lots and 2 35 lb. lots of aluminum ingots on eBay, so I need to get some made and get them up for sale. I plan to cover an area with a roof on the north side of the workshop and move the melting setup under the roof to keep it dry and then have a shady place to melt metal
what is the product used to wrap it, and what did it cost?
@@TheStarforce2 K wool insulation blanket www.amazon.com/s?k=k+wool+insulation+for+forge&crid=1EE33BC4LNCCS&sprefix=wool+insulation+for+forge%2Caps%2C96&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_25
@@Okiescrapper and its cheap too.
Maybe you should make a better lid for the melting pot.
I found a bigger can lid that fit, hopefully next summer I will be moving it setup under a roof, to keep it out of the rain and then I will be in the shade when I use it
How do you tell the difference between die cast pot metal and aluminum? Or can you just mix those together?
get some rid root killer copper sulfate I have some on my amazon page, put 1 tsp. into a spray bottle fill with water, grind on metal and spray, if the grind area stays shiny it is aluminum, if it turns dark it is diecast or pot metal, I think it's the zinc that makes it turn dark. if you see little bubbles, you have Titanium
Man I am so happy you insulated the oil burner!
now I need to insulate the lid and cut a hole in it, add rigidizer and I think it will work even better
You mentioned about clearing the junk out, but all the other crap (ash(?) and such), do you wait until it starts to plug the flame inlet to take any of that out?
no I keep everything away from the inlet. and try to clean it out after each melt. some ash will fall into the ingots, so I remelt in a crucible to get the aluminum cleaner
@@Okiescrapper Thanks for clearing that up. 8 )
Those cooper ingots are beautiful.
yes, they are, and all I did was take them to the wire wheel on the bench grinder
@@Okiescrapper were poured well... I watch "bigstackD Casting"
pouring all kind of ingots and this ones are very well poured my opinion
Bom dia
I wrapped mine in tin on outside.
that sounds good, I plan to move the setup latter and have it under a roof. so I will be in the shade in the summer
Nice, really enjoy your video!
Thank you very much! glad you liked it. hope to do more as time and weather permit. build up some stock to sell and use up some of this waste oil
You got quite a hack going on. Cigs or fumes, maybe see a doc? Back to minding my own biz now. I do like the rabbit wire kiln construction.
Well wasn't that a great time it's been a while since you used the waist oil burner excellent video great content thank you for sharing this with us six stars brother
Glad you enjoyed it. looks like it is working better now. I need to get a bunch of aluminum ingots so I can get some posted on eBay. and use up some of the oil that I have. Thanks for stopping by
G'day Okie, Have you considered having a tray (with handles on two sides) to carry the hot molds from the melting pot to your cooling table? Maybe have a lip on 3 sides to stop the mold from falling off. You could then slide the hot mold off the tray without needing to touch it. This would mean only using that tool (not really suited to carrying the mold) to move the mold to the tray.
Wondered what it would be like to insulate a round BBQ Grill. Attach it to A rod let's say 6 ft long. In the center put a pivot point just a rod going down to the table. And on the opposite end just put a handle. Something like that. I just thought a round barbecue grill would make a good lid
How long is your burner? From the oil line that comes out of the burner to the end of the burner. Or from the end of the nozzle to the end of the burner?
without measuring I think it's about 6 inches. not sure if it matters much, but it has to be reachable to remove the nozzle from time to time to clean it. I think I will do a video on that and how I prepare my oil
I took the liners out of an old swimming pool water heater and that stuff will not burn and easy to work with
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Just following up. Since this is the first video I watched.
I surmised the cup cake Al ingot is probably dirty with ashes and other stuff right ?
And you probably have to re melt in another crucible to float the dirt and slag to make a purer Aluminum ingot .
Is that right ?
Thanks
yes that is the way that I do it. ash and trash fall through the whole. I remelt it in the blue furnace, did a video of it today should be up tomorrow If I get the editing done
@@Okiescrapper awesome 👍
I think separating and purifying the aluminum in two stages like that save some times and energy .
You no longer have to pick at the engine n recycled material 👍
Plus you can use waste oil to do first melting and separation of aluminum.
It was your melting videos that got me following your Chanel , real happy to see some more . My neighbour makes fifty caliber bullets out of copper , he says they sell like hotcakes . Never seen his setup, he likes his privacy 👍🇨🇦
I may have to check into making them. make more per lb. that way I am sure
It's cool and all. But what's the point? Just curious.
Aluminum breakage pays very little, I can make ingots and sell them on eBay for over $2.00 a lb. and it gives me a way to get rid of some waste oil. and I get good views from melting videos
@@Okiescrapper Well that's a very good thing then. Thanks for sharing.
assumptions and thoughts. most hobbiest that may re-melt, or cast aluminum for small items, art, or even lathe creations, dont care for handling mixed scrap. they just want nearly pure ingots. Especially kilns inside basements or garages. Mosy Wouldnt want to deal with the mess. The smoke, and odors, of melting motors with oils, steels and plastic trash. we have made some ingots. the future would be getting to Okies level and openly sell.
Nice way to increase the sale price of recycled aluminum , plus getting rid of waste oil .
That compressor to provide blower air is ingenious 👍
God bless and have a great day
Thank you, Aluminum breakage pays very little. and aluminum ingots go for $2.00 a lb. maybe more now. and I get plenty of oil from oil changes and the compressor oil, and like you said it's a way to get rid of it. Thanks for watching
I need the link to your oil siphon burner setup. I've envisioned doing a big furnace similar to yours for bigger melts.
I have a playlist on the oil burner and melting metal waste oil burner th-cam.com/video/UAljaQ_-Tbo/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/users/Okiescrapperplaylists
Siphon Nozzle
Data sheet www.patriot-supply.com/files/30609%20siphon%20nozzle.pdf I have the burner tip parts on my amazon page
The paint might help keep fibers from flying off the insulation, too. Don't want to breathe that stuff!
yeah, I think a good coat of high temp. paint would help keep fibers intact
On second thought on the round barbecue grill for a lid, I might use a chain and a pulley to get it out of the way
that may work good. I may have to try that
Just wondering if anyone else is having a hard time taking there ingots to The scrap yards. No one around me will even buy them
that's what I always heard is that most yards won't buy them. about the only market for ingots is people that stack metals, may be able to sell them on Facebook marketplace, craigs list, etsy, or eBay
If you were to dip the mold into water while demolding would the ingots come out without banging them to demolding ?
I have found that I can tap the bottom of the mold and they come out easy, most of them do anyway
Love watching the melt. Good goin'.
Thanks 👍 more to come, weather permitting. thanks for stopping by
why did you stop dropping the molten aluminum in water
it floods the work area trying to keep the water cool, and makes a muddy area, and the tank is a hassle to pull out from under the table. it should work better in the new area if I ever get it done, It will have 6-8 inches of rock and sand for a floor
#happyscrapping
Not trying to be stupid, but what is the point of melting it down. Can someone explain it. Thanks
Interesting question. I have a couple forges I bought for processing scrap. However most scrap yards will not touch a home poured ingot. Can’t give them away because of suspect metallurgy and or contamination or foreign matter either intentionally or accidentally. So in answer to your question… considering the yard reactions it is not for scraping.
selling dirty aluminum or as it is called aluminum breakage you will get maybe 10 cents a lb. melting it down to clean aluminum ingots, I can sell them on eBay for $3.00 a lb. and people like to watch metal melt, so I get good views on TH-cam and make a little extra that way too
@@Okiescrapper Nice! Glad you found a good market for them beyond the yards. I melt for a project occasionally. For the proof of metallurgy at the yard I maintain the yard traditions for scrap. I am too damn ugly for TH-cam and no longer have the patience to deal with the rare EBay player that seems to think if you are a seller you must be a charitable organization as well. Happy to hear it is working for you!
RCBS, Lee, and Lyman molds are made for Lead
I don't think that the mold knows the difference between lead or aluminum. it will work with both,
@@Okiescrapper lmao that’s so funny lol, I was saying that because in the video you commented that you weren’t sure where you got your RCBS cast iron mold whether it was a lead casting mold so I answered your question
I'm curious. Do most yards let you do that. I live in SW Louisiana and I've never seen this before. Now take it I haven't been heavy into it like I am now since I've retired. I like putting on your videos while I'm playing with my junk. You keep me company lol. Thanks for sharing friend.✌️👍👊
the yards have no idea what I do at home, the ingots I sell on eBay, to guys that stack aluminum or do sand casting, the yards pay about 10 cents a lb. for aluminum breakage, or I can sell the ingots for $3.00 a lb. on eBay. I am getting the supplies together to start doing some sand casting here, to add to the melting videos, thinking of making up a bunch of aluminum, brass, and copper trinkets and selling them at the farmers market this summer. they say I can sell most anything as long as it's made in Oklahoma. Happy New Year
I watched you stripping wire video, I have the same knife that does not slide in the blade, & I've also tried the way of stripping using the flaring tool. I'm was thinking about the water under the melter like your doing. The other day my wife needed some boiled eggs to make a bunch of deviled eggs, so I make a point of getting the water boiling with hot aluminum cupcakes & cooked a bunch for her. I think we need to be more patient when it comes to knocking out the cupcakes, I see you have beaten up some of your pans like I have. I'll get another video out soon, I played around with my burner today, I'm happy with it so I started on making a place to melt aluminum like you have, although all I had around was a 30 lb. Empty Propane Tank (7.1 gal.), so I used my plasma cutter & cut the bottom off from it, after taking the valve off & blowing it out of course, :) . I think I need to use the top that I cut off & blow a bunch of wholes in it, to make a screen/platform to catch all the junk & slag, I think it needs to come out easy so I can just lift it up & dump it while it's hot of course. I was thinking about using sand & maybe a 20 gallon junk water heater as outer isolation, you know the sand between the propane tank & the water heater tank. Later when I find a bigger tank I'll might redo it. I plan of buying a tip & such off your sight. thanks.
I have found that spray vegetable oil makes a good ingot release spray.
Надо крышку с верху чтоб жар не уходил в небо.
as some items stick up over the top one guy suggested a round bbq top insulated. I think that might work. making small improvements as I go
Wow awesome setup. I can't believe you brought that compressor for only $500. The cats in the background are awesome as well.
Thank you, got the compressor from Home Depot, the cat's like to stay close most of the time Merry Christmas
Have you ever had any magnesium in the scrap as have been told not good if placed in furnace and one scrap dealer here had a big furnace and was making aluminum stars and think that shape to make easy to remelt.When you melt also may be wise to stay away from other things because the fumes may react with other metals like your trucks or metal objects and cause corrosion.
no not had any magnesium in the furnace,
I’ve got to build one I have a good size trailer load of cast aluminum that needs melting down I will go back and watch your other videos ❤❤❤
Thanks for stopping by. hope it all works out for you
Hey okie, seen a vid based on Milner tools, ""the grinding blade"" is some bit of gear, worth a watch if you get the chance
I will have to see if I can find it
I had been watching other home smelters & your was suggested & i really like the way you do it other then you need bigger forms as fast as you get it melting But anyway you got a sub from me !
thanks for the sub. I just put the kao wool on the outside of the melting pot, and It is helping to hold the heat in and get hotter temperatures, I think I need to put less into the pot at a time, so I don't get the flood of metal or turn the burner down some when it gets up to temp.
Nice job 👏 👍 👌 gonna have to get back at it I am getting behind on stripping stuff down
yeah, me too, I have a lot to do. but it will all get done someday
If you have time to pet animals, when what ever you do, you are good man.
Thank you
Sweet setup
thank you, I wanted something to melt the big aluminum breakage items
I'm thinking loaf pans might be better for managing the fast flow of metal.
I was out melting some in the melting pot today and burner was working well but the hole in the bottom of the pot kept clogging I need to re aim the burner and point it towards the hole to keep that area hot. but yes a loaf pan even a small one would help. and I have the tank of water below too as backup
Really ingenious setup. Did you come up with this yourself? Also, isn't burning waste oil bad for your lungs? If that's used car or truck oil, it's going to be full of heavy metals, right?
I watched a video a few years back a guy that goes by oil burner melted an aluminum head in a 55-gallon barrel, and I wanted to melt lawnmower motors and did not want to have to cut them up.
@@Okiescrapper And it works beautifully. I love the channel. I'm just saying, maybe wear a respirator or something.
wow that shit looked crazy dont burn your self.
getting some good heat now. I will have to check the temps next time, Thanks for watching
Can you get a higher temp flame if you used diesel for fuel instead of propane? If so would diesel be cheaper than propane? What about adding gas or diesel to your waste oil would that work to bring the temp up?
I put 8oz of kerosene in each 5-quart batch, so is you add more kerosene or diesel it may burn hotter. but if you wanted to go with just diesel you may want to get a nozzle just for diesel. I would look into diesel burners
@@Okiescrapper Thank you for the info. Sometimes just a small spend can make a big difference. that doesn't seem to be the case in this instance.
i dont know if you ever melt items with small parts, like piles of lawn mower carbs, but if so, do you have an issue with small parts going through the drain hole and contaminating the ingots?
ash and trash will fall through the hole, that is why I remelt in a crucible to help get the trash out. the advantage of the melting pot is that I don't have to cut things up small enough to fit into the crucible.
@@Okiescrapper gotcha. I am thinking of doing 2 of them. One for melting large items with large steel intrusions, like a lawn mower engine, boat prop, cylinder heads and so on with the drain hole style, while another furnace sits on its side, and aluminum simply runs out with the incline, where the incline is not sufficient to allow small screws, carb flappers, and sets screws to roll or slide out.
Question: is your Melting Pot attached to the metal table? Just wondered if the metal table could be sucking away a lot of your heat;
Just wondered if you put in some bricks or something that wouldn't suck the heat away like the metal in the table, if that might save heat loss?
not sure if it is causing any heat loss, but it's doing what I want it to do, melt big aluminum items. so I don't have to cut things down to fit a crucible
nice video!
Thanks for the visit
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Hope you had a great Thanksgiving, thanks for watching
I love this set up and the way this just keeps going
thank you, when it slows down just add more to the top
I have to stop and say I abosolutley love your melting videos.
Thank you
How big is your air tank for the compressed air for burner seems like you would be working the compressor to death depending on how long your melting ?? 🤔
I just did a video with that in it. it may be the next video after this one, it's a 27-gallon tank with 5.9 scfm @ 90 psi
@@Okiescrapper Ok sorry I missed that part was just wondering since I tried myself building a oil burner nozel hooked up to a 200 gallon compressor we have and it would kick on and run a bunch so I gave up on it all propane to darn expensive here in CA. To use only the oil burner worked but it just seemed more of a pain to use ! 🤔
That was first thing he showed in this video
Does it matter what variety of oil you use?
no I use old motor oil, used cooking oil,
Like 300 for the pretty cat. 🐈
after the melting pot I remelt in a crucible to get the impurities out and cans into rectangle ingots
What oil no,zle do u have
it is a 1 gallon per hour syphon. I have it listed on my amazon page. link in the video description
Hello again 🥰🥰🥰
Good morning!
thanks man
you are welcome, thanks for watching
Enjoy the melting videos.
Stay safe my friend and yes...I enjoyed stopping by.👍
Thanks, you too!