Perhaps, like many experimentals, this could result in a vessel eventually (once the super-traditionalists let up) result in a design that is somewhat... homeworldish OR Expanse in design. Namely, ships with a gravity field that align with the primary thrust engine, so that one can be turned off while the other on, and thrust can replace the field if things go awry. Who knows, perhaps it could result in some new designs that transition out the sensible opposing primary thrust pattern with a vessel that either has 3, one that is also a lower power, higher efficiency in the same direction of artificial gravity, or even something esoteric such as two, but instead of a 180 degree angle, a 90 degree one (or something else) between the two primary thrusts. I am sure many such concepts would be experimental, with a few examples that see further production/use due to some mission parameters they are well suited to. But this is an era when things are in upheaval after all. Incidentally, do any of these ships have magnetic sails as backup systems at all? I know drift has basically rendered such things unecessary, but what if some vessels still have some raisable/extendable masts and booms for magnetic sails for use near stars? Or even as an emergency backup for "we need to dock, but we are out of normal manuevering propellant. Oh, hey, 8 thin extendable masts with powerful electromagnets on them that slowly deflect solar particles enough that we can slowly dock with a ship without using a near-dock-safe reaction engine. But um, this will take half a day or so, anyone want to play cards?"
@@zed12-ui4jy custom ammo would legitimately impact the budget the most, it's an entire logistics chain for a single gun on a single ship, it's comical to even consider it a possibility
Ok, at 4:40 , after that huntress had spun like a bayblade, that short rce burt from the corvette had me laughing. Like the other helmsman was saying: Nah, I'm good. Don't need to show off.
I love everything about this ship. Her jankiness only adds to her charm. Her lines are beautiful. She's the perfect ship for a ragtag crew of privateers.
Loving the new animations. Hope we eventually learn how exactly Cassandra learned where the Huntress was stored, made her offer to buy it, and recruited Meds and Croft. Also are we going to learn what kind of ship that was riding along with the Huntress while she tested her maneuvering thrusters?
Well, she was the daughter of the Commander-in-Chief of the Centran Defense Force, Fleet Admiral Darius Farren, so it's possible she learned about it from him. Other than that, it seems as though she was involved in the _Leander_ Project, as it's mentioned that the shipbreaking yard the _Huntress_ was stored was known only to those who were part of that initiative. As for the ship, that was just a _Protectress_-Class Corvette.
As a warship, she is somewhat lacking. But as a deep range explorer craft? Possibly one temporarily assigned to the CDF Discovery Service to chart a recently discovered Nebula she’s almost perfect…
No way. This is an ambush predator, through and through, and meant to hunt the biggest game. If I were captain, I wouldn't get out of bed for anything smaller than a cruiser. This girl stalks the wilderness, dark and quiet, waiting for prey worthy of her time and attention. Seriously, though. Proper combat doctrine for this ship class. My thoughts. This ship skulks around in the black, away from front-line combat. Ideal target: One or two ship-of-the-line type bruisers, but with minimal escorts. Shouldn't be hard. Who escorts a ship of the line when it's just changing stations. Weapons doctrine: Start with that rail-gun. Less signature than torpedoes. If you can throttle the velocity of the slug, try and do it so you're opening salvo all hit at once. Focus almost entirely on a single ship, and don't stop until the target is a cloud of parts or it's time to leave, whichever comes first. A last salvo of torpedoes, maybe atomics, to dazzle enemy sensors, do a flippy-flip, then run, run, run away while everyone is blind.
Theoretically you could add some crappy cameras and basic screens and make it a very rudimentary stealth ship (In the heat of battle nobody's going to pay attention to a blurry patch of stars)
Gotta be honest I didn’t expect a remaster of the original Huntress class video Edit: Question, the Guinevere’s registration is 2709HC, the HC obviously means huntress class but the number is it total warships or ships with the HC designation? Given the Temperantia is 2214 I’m inclined to believe it’s the former.
What I would give for a model of this BEAUTIFUL vessel this easily tops my favourite space ships it's just ..... words fail to encapsulate the perfection of this GODDESS
I wasn't expecting a Breakdown on the _Huntress_-Class so soon, but it is a far from unwelcome sight. And the Faithless Project definitely sounds interesting, as it will doubtless involve an exploration of Advari History and Culture, as well as Vadric's own struggles with his beliefs in light of his beliefs; will it be available only on Nebula, or will it be present on other platforms in the future? Anyway, a couple of notes regarding the Breakdown itself. * You've got to love the Military-Industrial Complex taking advantage of chaos to produce a new-fangled design. * So the _Huntress_ was a derivative of the _Leander_-Class Destroyer Sloop, eh? And only those who worked on the original Leander Project knew about it; does that mean Cass was in Military R&D during the War, in addition to her role as a frontline commander? It would explain how she knew how to fly it so well. * I like how the _Huntress_ was built for comfort and long periods of operation with it's crew accommodations and it's Paragravity Plating. Clearly, Keeper's Dance learned from the Frontier Union's Mistakes with the _Indria_-Class Outriders and recognized the importance of maintaining crew morale over long periods in a ship too small to include a centrifuge hab. And the fact that it can perform planetary landings is pretty great too, since this was clearly a vessel meant to operate behind enemy lines for reconnaissance and special operations as opposed to a Ship of the Line like the _Tripathia_ and the _Temperentia._ * I also like how the weaknesses of the Class are addressed as well, and how this ship clearly would have had quite a few kinks for the CDF to work out even if the Great Famine hadn't hit the Tantalus Cluster like a truck; expensive due to complex systems requiring a lot of maintenance, the gravity plate and thruster potential problems(I imagine we'll be seeing those in the first episode of Season 2), and other such issues. All in all, a very good piece, and one that clearly illustrates the pros and cons of the Class, the potential it both once had as a new direction for the Centran Defense Force, and that it has now as the _Guinevere._
The Guinevere gives me the same goosebumps and shiver down my spine as seeing the Serenity atmo entry sequence in the opening of the movie and the same squeal of the nine-year old in ‘77 when the Millennium Falcon came swooping in, “You’re all clear kid, now let’s blow this thing and go home!” The entirety of the team’s work shows your quality: the very highest!
The first thing any captain would do after purchasing it would be add an aftermarket rcs system for docking. It should be a relatively easy and cheap upgrade.
I’m not so sure. The lack of rcs isn’t a design oversight, it’s a design choice, intended to cut down on the ship’s logistics footprint. Given the ship’s size and lack of significant internal space to house enough rcs for the length of its deployments, youd have to increase the size to add those tanks, reducing weight, etc. As a long deployment ambush craft, she is uniquely suited to this choice, as the only time you really need to do low strength burns like with rcs is in docking. Her crew is too small to effect a boarding action on anything bigger than a sloop, so really the only docking she has to do is with friendly ships or stations, who presumably have ways to assist a docking on a ship with damaged rcs. Worse case you open both cargo bays and zip line. Compare that to the logistical boon of needing only fuel, which seems to last years, ammo, which lasts as long as you make it last, and consumables, which can be stored for quite some time, and you have a ship that can lye in wait for a very long time. Most of her time will be spent not needing RCS, and when she does need it it’s on scenarios where she has assistance
@@MentalMallard28 you realize you kind of destroyed your own argument. Yes, she would need to use rcs in very limited situations such as docking or potentially nuzzling up to an asteroid to hide, rcs is certainly less noticeable to sensors than her normal drive. And because the uses of rcs would be minimal the storage would be minimal, probably just some tanks bolted on close to the thrusters themselves.
@@Pentagon6519 Any external tanks would alter the ship’s silhouette, which would affect its stealth. And if you try to minimize the size of the tanks you loose redundancy, which is not something you can sacrifice on something so important. You either have it or you don’t, and if you don’t have it reliably then you don’t have it. Better to focus on learning the ship and training your coxswain than having RCS that you have to use sparingly. The Huntress is basically a coilgun that happens to have crew quarters, with such a stripped down and specialized ship it makes sense that they cut down on stuff that wasn’t needed for the core functionality of “hide, shoot, run”. I’d imagine rather than conventional RCS a production model Huntress would have had a second, smaller set of thrusters added at the extreme ends of the hull, allowing for slower more precise adjustments while maintains the low logistic footprint of no RCS while still allowing for low strength burns and rapid end over end maneuvers with the main set. But that’s the sort of heavy modifications you really can’t do without fully overhauling the design, so it makes sense that they haven’t done that
Oh cool, this one got a remaster with even better art and animation. I've been a Sojourn fan since it was announced but I'm glad it's not just continued but the production and supplemental media keeps improving too. Huntress/Guinevere is a great ship too, and it's funny how similar she ended up to the upgraded Rocinante in terms of capabilities and crew compliment.
the lack of normal RCS is an interesting detail, its a significant oversight and frankly a missed opportunity from a hypothetical in universe perspective. i could see someone deciding to retrofit a low temperature, low output RCS as a pseudo stealthy retrofit.
The plan may have been to compensate for this with custom software, which just never got done when the program was cut. But yeah I wonder how difficult it would be to retrofit some RCS.
4:16 i ran in track and field so when thinking in metric the hundred meter dash is always my benchmark ruler for larger sub kilometer measurements, and its nuts to think this is basically the whole straightaway in length dancing around on eight fusion drives
That looks like what a real fighting vessel might look like to me. And I don't know jack. However, I see no Star Trek magic wand waving unobtainium story breaking bull jive. It's cool.
Huh. It's like a fusion of the Rocinante and the Normandy. While I like the utilitarian design of ships in this setting, you can really tell there was a lot of effort to make this one look really cool. As expected of a 'hero ship'.
I just had a thought: would it be theoretically possible to integrate Advari technology into a ship like this? That is to say, could the Guin be turned into a hybrid ship?
It seems to me that it would be easier and better to make the floor of the ship horizontal so that the force of energy during engine operation presses the crew to the floor for walking
Most ships do have thrust gravity but given that a lot of a deployment of the Huntress would be lying in ambush with no thrust gravity, the paragravity massively improves crew morale as there isn't enough space to fit a centrifuge hab as on larger frigates and ships of the line
How come all ship engine plumes have non expanding plumes? I know it's a magnetic nozzle (possibly torch drive) but the exhaust would still expand. If it's an animation matter, excuse my ignorance.
@@E.hexzor Yep. And come to think of it, some of the ships we see in the recent video on Mercenaries in Tathanlus match up pretty well with one of those silhoutes; the Kestrel, I believe.
Problem is those fusion engines would also have leverage on the hull structure, It should have weaker rcs as well though for gyroscopic control, as well as for delicate and fuel efficient manoeuvring, but fusion drives should be mounted amid ships so Thier power doesn't rip the thing in 2. Unfortunately using them as gyros is fuel inefficient. Also without rcs as well it can't truly maneuver 3 dimensionally. Ie you have to gyro to keep main guns and low cross section on target but without rcs it can't spin and side thrust at the same time. You'd have to shoot, reposition and shoot. With RCS as well as honking great side thrust the gods themselves couldn't predict where it's going to be by the time the target can get ordinance out to you and you are still pointing your guns at them, saying that piloting such a ship would be damn near impossible,
Thats where the benefit of only having a crew of three comes in. Plus with the captains own connections in the CDF I'd be willing to bet she has all that figured out.
Doctrine thoughts. This is an ambush predator, through and through, and she is meant to hunt the biggest game. This girl hides in the wilderness, dark and quiet, waiting for prey worthy of her time and attention. If I was flying this, I wouldn't get out of bed for anything smaller than a cruiser. Seriously, though. Proper combat doctrine for this ship class. My thoughts. This ship skulks around in the nothing, reasonably far from front-line combat. Ideal target: One or two ship-of-the-line type bruisers, but nobody else of consequence. Weapons doctrine: Start with that rail-gun. Less signature than torpedoes. Focus almost entirely on a single ship, and don't stop until it's cloud of parts or it's time to leave, whichever comes first. A last salvo of torpedoes, maybe atomics, to dazzle enemy sensors, do a flippy-flip, then run, run, run away.
Swiveling the maneuverer rockets adds no more manoeuvrability. If it is not using aerodynamics to land then landing on its belly is no easier than landing on its tail and the main engine, so the reasons given for the deck orientation don't make sense.
Nice design, but the placement of the maneuvring thrusters in the middle if the ship does not feel right to me. Too small leverage to help with turning the ship. Fine for landing though, but turning with thrusters this close to the center of mass will cause more sideways movement than turning moment. They should have been further apart. More to the front, rear and with wider stance. But that would obviously did not look as cool.
This is cool and all, but the placement of those huge RCS thrusters is extremely inefficient for yaw and pitch control. If those thrusters were placed farther from the center of mass (forward and backward of their current location) pitch and yaw control would be greatly improved without impacting the control of any other axis.
@@youtubepleb Oh I totally understand, but this isn't the kind of thing engineers would mess up on a prototype. This is basic engineering, well-understood before humankind had launched *anything* into space, let alone warships.
@@Madwand99 the difference between the Guin's RCS and irl RCS is that irl RCS doesn't have the power output of a fighterboat engine. that sorta stress off of the centreline would be a lot heavier to strengthen against and thus would be more costly than having them clustered. having them clustered also simplifies fuel lines to each thruster
Hard to pilot...? Modern fighter jets since the mid 1970s have fly by wire controls that allow dynamically unstable designs -- meaning that if the FBW system failed, the aircraft would disintegrate within a few seconds. Why would a much more advanced spacecraft not have something at least equal to that?
sure it'd have fly-by-wire, but having that kind of difference in RCS compared to a conventional ship makes it a lot harder to learn comparatively. it's more akin to flying a VTOL jet when used to a conventional jet
Why are you using a mixture of Metric and Imperial for the units? Since this is the far future everything should be Metric! Even today the US military is all Metric for armaments; for example, the main gun on the US main battle tank, the M1A2 SEPv3 Abrams is 120mm. So why are you using inches to describe this starship's guns?
@@matthewdowner3057 It just seems weird to me to see this mixture of Metric and Imperial. Back then they used British Imperial and only Imperial. In the future the USA, hopefully will fully adopt the Metric system and then we can drop British Imperial / US Customary. I grew up in Canada with British Imperial and then learned Metric; when I moved to the US I had to switch to US Customary. It felt like a step back! Metric is the future!
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Perhaps, like many experimentals, this could result in a vessel eventually (once the super-traditionalists let up) result in a design that is somewhat... homeworldish OR Expanse in design. Namely, ships with a gravity field that align with the primary thrust engine, so that one can be turned off while the other on, and thrust can replace the field if things go awry.
Who knows, perhaps it could result in some new designs that transition out the sensible opposing primary thrust pattern with a vessel that either has 3, one that is also a lower power, higher efficiency in the same direction of artificial gravity, or even something esoteric such as two, but instead of a 180 degree angle, a 90 degree one (or something else) between the two primary thrusts.
I am sure many such concepts would be experimental, with a few examples that see further production/use due to some mission parameters they are well suited to. But this is an era when things are in upheaval after all.
Incidentally, do any of these ships have magnetic sails as backup systems at all? I know drift has basically rendered such things unecessary, but what if some vessels still have some raisable/extendable masts and booms for magnetic sails for use near stars? Or even as an emergency backup for "we need to dock, but we are out of normal manuevering propellant. Oh, hey, 8 thin extendable masts with powerful electromagnets on them that slowly deflect solar particles enough that we can slowly dock with a ship without using a near-dock-safe reaction engine. But um, this will take half a day or so, anyone want to play cards?"
A bespoke main gun, "matching no other in current service" sounds like a NIGHTMARE to find proper ammo for.
I mean, one of the best parts about Coilguns is that you can just shove any ferromagnetic material that fits in them down the barrel as ammo.
I think it’s more the design of the gun that’s unique. I doubt KDFY is so stupid as to give her unique ammo as well.
@@youtubepleb Considering how expensive it already is custom ammo wouldn't really impact the budget much
@@zed12-ui4jy custom ammo would legitimately impact the budget the most, it's an entire logistics chain for a single gun on a single ship, it's comical to even consider it a possibility
@PeachDragon_ Yes, but it's a coil gun you can just chuck in anything faromagnetic weather its a fork or a can
Ok, at 4:40 , after that huntress had spun like a bayblade, that short rce burt from the corvette had me laughing. Like the other helmsman was saying: Nah, I'm good. Don't need to show off.
I said it before and I'll said again.
It's basically *"what Rocinante will looked like if it's a starfleet ship".*
A brilliant merge of the great.
More if it were a Colonial ship.
I love everything about this ship. Her jankiness only adds to her charm. Her lines are beautiful. She's the perfect ship for a ragtag crew of privateers.
I remember when Dan was saying that the design for the Guinevere would change, but you can't improve on perfection.
Loving the new animations. Hope we eventually learn how exactly Cassandra learned where the Huntress was stored, made her offer to buy it, and recruited Meds and Croft. Also are we going to learn what kind of ship that was riding along with the Huntress while she tested her maneuvering thrusters?
Well, she was the daughter of the Commander-in-Chief of the Centran Defense Force, Fleet Admiral Darius Farren, so it's possible she learned about it from him. Other than that, it seems as though she was involved in the _Leander_ Project, as it's mentioned that the shipbreaking yard the _Huntress_ was stored was known only to those who were part of that initiative.
As for the ship, that was just a _Protectress_-Class Corvette.
As a warship, she is somewhat lacking. But as a deep range explorer craft? Possibly one temporarily assigned to the CDF Discovery Service to chart a recently discovered Nebula she’s almost perfect…
No way. This is an ambush predator, through and through, and meant to hunt the biggest game. If I were captain, I wouldn't get out of bed for anything smaller than a cruiser. This girl stalks the wilderness, dark and quiet, waiting for prey worthy of her time and attention.
Seriously, though. Proper combat doctrine for this ship class. My thoughts.
This ship skulks around in the black, away from front-line combat. Ideal target: One or two ship-of-the-line type bruisers, but with minimal escorts. Shouldn't be hard. Who escorts a ship of the line when it's just changing stations.
Weapons doctrine: Start with that rail-gun. Less signature than torpedoes. If you can throttle the velocity of the slug, try and do it so you're opening salvo all hit at once.
Focus almost entirely on a single ship, and don't stop until the target is a cloud of parts or it's time to leave, whichever comes first.
A last salvo of torpedoes, maybe atomics, to dazzle enemy sensors, do a flippy-flip, then run, run, run away while everyone is blind.
A flying EXPERT MODE SELECTED.
Theoretically you could add some crappy cameras and basic screens and make it a very rudimentary stealth ship (In the heat of battle nobody's going to pay attention to a blurry patch of stars)
Gotta be honest I didn’t expect a remaster of the original Huntress class video
Edit: Question, the Guinevere’s registration is 2709HC, the HC obviously means huntress class but the number is it total warships or ships with the HC designation? Given the Temperantia is 2214 I’m inclined to believe it’s the former.
Same here
Here too but it’s nice to see the updates
It might mean KDFY's 2709th ship, the Huntress Corvette GUINEVERE. It might not be, and may be a civilian designation code or similar
@@BlandSpagetti it might be shipyard hull number or project number. Need to ask the crew to clarify
What I would give for a model of this BEAUTIFUL vessel this easily tops my favourite space ships it's just ..... words fail to encapsulate the perfection of this GODDESS
What an absolutely perfect protagonist ship. X)
I wasn't expecting a Breakdown on the _Huntress_-Class so soon, but it is a far from unwelcome sight. And the Faithless Project definitely sounds interesting, as it will doubtless involve an exploration of Advari History and Culture, as well as Vadric's own struggles with his beliefs in light of his beliefs; will it be available only on Nebula, or will it be present on other platforms in the future?
Anyway, a couple of notes regarding the Breakdown itself.
* You've got to love the Military-Industrial Complex taking advantage of chaos to produce a new-fangled design.
* So the _Huntress_ was a derivative of the _Leander_-Class Destroyer Sloop, eh? And only those who worked on the original Leander Project knew about it; does that mean Cass was in Military R&D during the War, in addition to her role as a frontline commander? It would explain how she knew how to fly it so well.
* I like how the _Huntress_ was built for comfort and long periods of operation with it's crew accommodations and it's Paragravity Plating. Clearly, Keeper's Dance learned from the Frontier Union's Mistakes with the _Indria_-Class Outriders and recognized the importance of maintaining crew morale over long periods in a ship too small to include a centrifuge hab. And the fact that it can perform planetary landings is pretty great too, since this was clearly a vessel meant to operate behind enemy lines for reconnaissance and special operations as opposed to a Ship of the Line like the _Tripathia_ and the _Temperentia._
* I also like how the weaknesses of the Class are addressed as well, and how this ship clearly would have had quite a few kinks for the CDF to work out even if the Great Famine hadn't hit the Tantalus Cluster like a truck; expensive due to complex systems requiring a lot of maintenance, the gravity plate and thruster potential problems(I imagine we'll be seeing those in the first episode of Season 2), and other such issues.
All in all, a very good piece, and one that clearly illustrates the pros and cons of the Class, the potential it both once had as a new direction for the Centran Defense Force, and that it has now as the _Guinevere._
SOJOURN SIDE STORY???? ADVARI BACKSTORY????? ABIGAIL THORN???? BALDURS GATE 3??
LETS GOOOOOOOO
The Guinevere gives me the same goosebumps and shiver down my spine as seeing the Serenity atmo entry sequence in the opening of the movie and the same squeal of the nine-year old in ‘77 when the Millennium Falcon came swooping in, “You’re all clear kid, now let’s blow this thing and go home!” The entirety of the team’s work shows your quality: the very highest!
The first thing any captain would do after purchasing it would be add an aftermarket rcs system for docking. It should be a relatively easy and cheap upgrade.
I’m not so sure. The lack of rcs isn’t a design oversight, it’s a design choice, intended to cut down on the ship’s logistics footprint. Given the ship’s size and lack of significant internal space to house enough rcs for the length of its deployments, youd have to increase the size to add those tanks, reducing weight, etc. As a long deployment ambush craft, she is uniquely suited to this choice, as the only time you really need to do low strength burns like with rcs is in docking. Her crew is too small to effect a boarding action on anything bigger than a sloop, so really the only docking she has to do is with friendly ships or stations, who presumably have ways to assist a docking on a ship with damaged rcs. Worse case you open both cargo bays and zip line. Compare that to the logistical boon of needing only fuel, which seems to last years, ammo, which lasts as long as you make it last, and consumables, which can be stored for quite some time, and you have a ship that can lye in wait for a very long time. Most of her time will be spent not needing RCS, and when she does need it it’s on scenarios where she has assistance
@@MentalMallard28 you realize you kind of destroyed your own argument. Yes, she would need to use rcs in very limited situations such as docking or potentially nuzzling up to an asteroid to hide, rcs is certainly less noticeable to sensors than her normal drive. And because the uses of rcs would be minimal the storage would be minimal, probably just some tanks bolted on close to the thrusters themselves.
@@Pentagon6519 Any external tanks would alter the ship’s silhouette, which would affect its stealth. And if you try to minimize the size of the tanks you loose redundancy, which is not something you can sacrifice on something so important. You either have it or you don’t, and if you don’t have it reliably then you don’t have it. Better to focus on learning the ship and training your coxswain than having RCS that you have to use sparingly. The Huntress is basically a coilgun that happens to have crew quarters, with such a stripped down and specialized ship it makes sense that they cut down on stuff that wasn’t needed for the core functionality of “hide, shoot, run”. I’d imagine rather than conventional RCS a production model Huntress would have had a second, smaller set of thrusters added at the extreme ends of the hull, allowing for slower more precise adjustments while maintains the low logistic footprint of no RCS while still allowing for low strength burns and rapid end over end maneuvers with the main set. But that’s the sort of heavy modifications you really can’t do without fully overhauling the design, so it makes sense that they haven’t done that
Nicely done. I can just imagine the excited wagging of her tail.
320 ft. by 97.4 ft.
Its amazing.
The script, the backstory, the visuals, the narration.
At first, I thought that the Guinevere was a (I forgot how it was spelt but it started with an F) class
@zed12-ui4jy Florencia?
@@UGNAvalon that's it!
What a great hero ship. The brute force landing with the Mach diamonds is so pretty. I want to see an animation of the Guin landing.
So the Guinevere is really just an expensive toy used by its manufacturer to try out every wacky idea they could think of? Nice
As a patreon supporter of the sojourn its amazing and unexpected to see this coming a remastered version.
Oh cool, this one got a remaster with even better art and animation. I've been a Sojourn fan since it was announced but I'm glad it's not just continued but the production and supplemental media keeps improving too. Huntress/Guinevere is a great ship too, and it's funny how similar she ended up to the upgraded Rocinante in terms of capabilities and crew compliment.
the lack of normal RCS is an interesting detail, its a significant oversight and frankly a missed opportunity from a hypothetical in universe perspective. i could see someone deciding to retrofit a low temperature, low output RCS as a pseudo stealthy retrofit.
Yep, it also seems to be practical to not melt anything you're trying to dock with 😅
The plan may have been to compensate for this with custom software, which just never got done when the program was cut. But yeah I wonder how difficult it would be to retrofit some RCS.
Unique thruster arrangement...... Crossbone Gundam would like to have a word with you.
4:16 i ran in track and field so when thinking in metric the hundred meter dash is always my benchmark ruler for larger sub kilometer measurements, and its nuts to think this is basically the whole straightaway in length dancing around on eight fusion drives
Oh shoot you got Abby? That is a crossover I did not expect, but I'm very pleased to see!
Railgun ready with all due respects, captain!
“Baldur Gate 3’s Emma Gregory”
My first thought, “Jenit Sulla?!?”
Truly a fantastic hero ship.
I FUCKING LOVE THE SOJOURN
WHAT THE FUCK IS A BAD SHIP DESIGN 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
if had to pick a ship from this universe to be my privateer vessel it would be this one , planetary landing is a must have feature for me
Imagine what a group of these could do if deployed properly.
Crash into each other?
That animation at the end was fucking beautiful!
Sounds like an awesome hero ship
The new Roci refit is looking great, guys.
That looks like what a real fighting vessel might look like to me. And I don't know jack. However, I see no Star Trek magic wand waving unobtainium story breaking bull jive. It's cool.
i swear to the universe if you dont make a game out of your designs i will riot on every video
Awesome!
Hope the next ship breakdown isn't too far away
We need an animation of the Guinevere deploying the Wildcat
Wow!
This show needs to be an visual element
Truer fax have never been spoken
It needs to be under the Arcane animation
Huh. It's like a fusion of the Rocinante and the Normandy.
While I like the utilitarian design of ships in this setting, you can really tell there was a lot of effort to make this one look really cool. As expected of a 'hero ship'.
Finally got my credit card now i can start listening to this masterpiece 🎉
Thanks for the content
This is looks FANTASTIC!!! 🤤🤤🤤
Fair winds
I just had a thought: would it be theoretically possible to integrate Advari technology into a ship like this? That is to say, could the Guin be turned into a hybrid ship?
It seems to me that it would be easier and better to make the floor of the ship horizontal so that the force of energy during engine operation presses the crew to the floor for walking
Most ships do have thrust gravity but given that a lot of a deployment of the Huntress would be lying in ambush with no thrust gravity, the paragravity massively improves crew morale as there isn't enough space to fit a centrifuge hab as on larger frigates and ships of the line
How come all ship engine plumes have non expanding plumes? I know it's a magnetic nozzle (possibly torch drive) but the exhaust would still expand. If it's an animation matter, excuse my ignorance.
I assume it's an aesthetic choice. This project takes physics more into account than most sci-fi, but still plays a bit loose with them.
@@DecidedlyNinja definitely aesthetic choice, given it's the kind of sci-fi where the physics are there to enhance the plot
Great fucking video bro
Does the Sojourn universe has passenger ships? how they look like :^ ?
They do, but we don’t know for sure what they look like
@@LordCommander-ui2fw there's some silhouettes on one of the patreon ship ID charts
@@E.hexzor Yep. And come to think of it, some of the ships we see in the recent video on Mercenaries in Tathanlus match up pretty well with one of those silhoutes; the Kestrel, I believe.
@@LordCommander-ui2fw yep, we on the discord are pretty sure they're Caspian G models, which is what the kestrel is if I remember correctly
Putting those thrusters amidships negates any leverage advantage they might have had if they'd been mounted at the ends of the ship.
She *is* a prototype.
Problem is those fusion engines would also have leverage on the hull structure, It should have weaker rcs as well though for gyroscopic control, as well as for delicate and fuel efficient manoeuvring, but fusion drives should be mounted amid ships so Thier power doesn't rip the thing in 2. Unfortunately using them as gyros is fuel inefficient. Also without rcs as well it can't truly maneuver 3 dimensionally. Ie you have to gyro to keep main guns and low cross section on target but without rcs it can't spin and side thrust at the same time. You'd have to shoot, reposition and shoot. With RCS as well as honking great side thrust the gods themselves couldn't predict where it's going to be by the time the target can get ordinance out to you and you are still pointing your guns at them, saying that piloting such a ship would be damn near impossible,
Putting those on the ends of the ship puts a lot of bending forces on the hull and interfere with the midship weaponry.
I wonder how much her privateer crew earn just to be able to keep her well maintained while still have some profit to spare.
Thats where the benefit of only having a crew of three comes in. Plus with the captains own connections in the CDF I'd be willing to bet she has all that figured out.
USS Seawolf mixed with the Roci
A theoretical Huntress 2 (or Guinevere) Class would likely have limited RCS, streamlined components, and better automation systems.
Doctrine thoughts.
This is an ambush predator, through and through, and she is meant to hunt the biggest game.
This girl hides in the wilderness, dark and quiet, waiting for prey worthy of her time and attention. If I was flying this, I wouldn't get out of bed for anything smaller than a cruiser.
Seriously, though. Proper combat doctrine for this ship class. My thoughts.
This ship skulks around in the nothing, reasonably far from front-line combat. Ideal target: One or two ship-of-the-line type bruisers, but nobody else of consequence.
Weapons doctrine: Start with that rail-gun. Less signature than torpedoes. Focus almost entirely on a single ship, and don't stop until it's cloud of parts or it's time to leave, whichever comes first.
A last salvo of torpedoes, maybe atomics, to dazzle enemy sensors, do a flippy-flip, then run, run, run away.
Is this a game or a book series?
Audio drama (think TV show without visuals) available most places you can get audiobooks
That music at the start... oof
Yeah. Honestly I am pretty excited about the vadric spin-off.
My Gods she’s beautiful…
44th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEE MY LIFES GOAL
I’m doing the soyjak pointing meme at this video (i am very excited)
Swiveling the maneuverer rockets adds no more manoeuvrability. If it is not using aerodynamics to land then landing on its belly is no easier than landing on its tail and the main engine, so the reasons given for the deck orientation don't make sense.
Wow!....deja vu....tho not quite..
Nice design, but the placement of the maneuvring thrusters in the middle if the ship does not feel right to me. Too small leverage to help with turning the ship. Fine for landing though, but turning with thrusters this close to the center of mass will cause more sideways movement than turning moment. They should have been further apart. More to the front, rear and with wider stance. But that would obviously did not look as cool.
I’m surprised it wasn’t called the Zumwalt class…😉
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This is cool and all, but the placement of those huge RCS thrusters is extremely inefficient for yaw and pitch control. If those thrusters were placed farther from the center of mass (forward and backward of their current location) pitch and yaw control would be greatly improved without impacting the control of any other axis.
Two words: Prototype Warship.
@@youtubepleb Oh I totally understand, but this isn't the kind of thing engineers would mess up on a prototype. This is basic engineering, well-understood before humankind had launched *anything* into space, let alone warships.
@@Madwand99there'd probably be structural issues if you mounted the fusion engines further from the centre
@@E.hexzor Not really, this is exactly how RCS thrusters work IRL.
@@Madwand99 the difference between the Guin's RCS and irl RCS is that irl RCS doesn't have the power output of a fighterboat engine. that sorta stress off of the centreline would be a lot heavier to strengthen against and thus would be more costly than having them clustered. having them clustered also simplifies fuel lines to each thruster
A Beautiful Girl, hopefully her success leads to her development line being picked back up.
1:04 aaaaaAAAAA the gas trails behind the projectiles being fired are still wroooooong
Shhh, rule of cool.
Hard to pilot...? Modern fighter jets since the mid 1970s have fly by wire controls that allow dynamically unstable designs -- meaning that if the FBW system failed, the aircraft would disintegrate within a few seconds. Why would a much more advanced spacecraft not have something at least equal to that?
sure it'd have fly-by-wire, but having that kind of difference in RCS compared to a conventional ship makes it a lot harder to learn comparatively. it's more akin to flying a VTOL jet when used to a conventional jet
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Those gun calibers are WAAAAAAAAAAYYYY too big for a ship this size…
rule of cool + age of sail vibes are why the calibers are so odd
Why are you using a mixture of Metric and Imperial for the units? Since this is the far future everything should be Metric! Even today the US military is all Metric for armaments; for example, the main gun on the US main battle tank, the M1A2 SEPv3 Abrams is 120mm. So why are you using inches to describe this starship's guns?
to preserve the 18th Century Age of Sail vibes and it rocks
@@matthewdowner3057 It just seems weird to me to see this mixture of Metric and Imperial. Back then they used British Imperial and only Imperial. In the future the USA, hopefully will fully adopt the Metric system and then we can drop British Imperial / US Customary. I grew up in Canada with British Imperial and then learned Metric; when I moved to the US I had to switch to US Customary. It felt like a step back! Metric is the future!
Welcome to the Sojourn, where massive space battleships line up like it’s the 16th century and blocks of infantry volley firing space-BARs are used in boarding actions
It’s an entirely separate universe, not the far future.
@@sophisthemlock246 I loved that boarding sequence so much. Cover? What is that?!? Form up in ranks and volley fire like the marines of old!