How Will It Work? Can they REALLY Sell NEW Tractors at USED Prices?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มี.ค. 2024
- Tim details how the Dutch/Reverse Aucction hosted by Cloudstore.co/auction will work.
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Well Tim, I just put a downpayment on the last 3025e in the auction. Looking forward to your summer Hydros Plus series.
Congratulations! I’ve got to buy one sometime!!!!
@@TractorTimewithTim My tractor arrived today. I couldn’t be any happier with this whole process. Thank you and Cloudstore and Justin for making this tractor buying experience such a pleasure.
@@JonStratford1234thanks for the feedback! Glad to hear it went well!
Back in 2017 I could buy a brand new 4066R Cab with a loader for about $52,000 and now same tractor is over $70,000 it’s totally insane but look at the pick up truck market a 1 ton dodge truck in 2017 was about 62,000 and loaded the same truck now it’s close to $100,000 everything is out of hand that’s at least here in Northern California, the cost of a steak is through the roof it’s crazy
I agree- a recession is looming. Tractors and vehicles are too expensive.
It's also the options(truck-wise). Inflation definitely hurts, but there are other factors, too.
Very cool. Looking forward to seeing more of the tractors posted to see more!
Tim, I feel like you have made sure Justin and Andrew are going to be busy! Thanks Tim for the continued quality vids.
Sounds like a good idea, connecting buyers with aged inventory. I hope it is a win for both parties.
Interesting auction, great that you're involved in this program.
Thanks for all you do Tim.
Thanks Tim, for helping people get hopefully what they need and are struggling to afford. Like you said prices are out of control and I believe all manufacturers are just taking advantage. Hopefully a sale like this shows the manufacturers we are tired of being taken advantage of. Thanks friend
Not just tractor prices out of hand, vehicles especially trucks and SUVs, houses, lumber , FUEL, and on and on.
Tim, Nice to see you trying to do something to help the little guy. Have followed you since the start and always appreciated your average owners viewpoint. This huge price increase in these tractors is quite apparent with many brands, Powersports/Ag/Automotive you name it. One has to scratch their head watching these companies seemingly price themselves to death from their own markets.. quite baffling.
Good idea, hope it works! You are a great salesman Tim.
Great video ! Looking forward to seeing how this works out. Very interesting!
Great setup and interested to see how it works out. Wonder if attachments are being considered in the future as they’re insanely priced also. Wish ya could get truck dealers involved.
This should be interesting to watch and see how folks respond. Blessings.
I bought a 2017 1025r 103 hours on it with loader/bucket/ ballest box for 12.995 last year.. Also bought a new 54inch drive over mower deck for 995 at the same time. Tractor was in mint condition. For a dealer price it seemed like a good deal
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Your welcome! Thank you for your great videos!:)I Always enjoy watching. 😄
Sounds like a great time to get the tractor you need and want!!?! GREAT Video!!! 😮😅😊
We run 2x1026r’s, 2x2025r’s, 1x3046r and 1x4066r.
The Deere prices here in Australia aren’t justifiable anymore, especially with the dollar deference.
We have just bought a kioti Nx 6020 to try for 12 months in the hope Deere come back to earth.
So far the kioti is doing the job well but my heart belongs to Deere.
This is a nice idea. As you yourself pointed out in a previous video, you bought a tractor that turned out to be stolen. I'm sure that influenced your decision to get involved with this and making sure everything is above board.
Yes. You are right. In this case, I KNOW it is above board!
very interesting. thank you for bringing this to your viewers.
Thank you Tim very cool
Thanks for the information 👍🏻
You want lower prices ? If people would just STOP buying them for 2 years the price would definitely drop . The people have control !
The used market will, we will see who really needs one and who doesn't. The manufacturers have already stated they will cut production with demand drop.
Is this going to be an online event that we could actually watch and see the tractor and the prices go up and down or the bids being placed?
Lots of.middle age and elderly people bought property outside of city's and need something to maintain it. Hard to hire some people then high costs to have someone tow then use the equipment price it out and buying a tractor at the higher price is still cheaper. It was 8100 to put in a driveway. I did it for 2000 plus the cost of the tractor. Then add in snow clearing digging trenchs clearing bush moving logs it paid for it self already and I'm only at 98 hours. All the work that needs to be done could be done with back breaking labor or a tractor. Re fixed 3 people's driveways moved tons of firewood.
@@TimeAfterTym Maybe watch the video again and listen? Tim answered those questions and explained how it works.
@@carlstrohm3785 thank you for the suggestion
I guess I’m pretty glad I went a little overboard in October 2020 to January 2021. It’s as if I knew pricing was going to go South, or would that be North ? 😬
Glad I purchased my 1023 E in 2018!!!!!!
Great job Tim!
I didn’t see the location listed on the webpage. Did I miss that? And if not how do you know location?
I have bought stuff on auctions and it is always anxious until your bid id accepted. but i feel like I paid a fair price for the item in a truly competitive environment.
there is a mistake in the description of the 3025D at 2:02. It can't be a 120R on it, likely a 300E with 61" bucket
Im gonna keep an eye out for a nice 4 series
My kubota 2650 barely has 200 hrs on it and i want to upgrade to a cab 40ish hp. The prices are insane sometime getting close to the "i could buy a new skid steer for that proce" mark
I appreciate your efforts to disclose everything and trust that you'll do a good job with that.
I once bought a trencher from what I thought was a reputable auction company but after getting it shipped from several states away I found some issues. I ended up getting a substantial refund after fighting with them for weeks. It was enough to cover repairs and ended up a fair deal but shouldn't have happened in the first place. It's not like the buyer isn't going to eventually see the equipment in person so there should be no incentive to hide anything. Basic human decency should prevent that anyway.
As is often means as is
@@gregallen7045 when they show videos of it running, operating, etc then it turns out that was after they jumped it and smacked the starter, let it warm up to get rid of the smoke, etc that's FRAUD that's not AS IS. AS IS is tell me the battery and starter are shot and it smokes like crazy for the first minute. Or show nothing and let me decide if I want to buy sight unseen but don't mask the known problems.
Hi Tim, love this video. Are you planning on doing this same or a similar auction next spring? Very interested in a tractor of my own, unfortunately just finding this channel but loving all the videos.
Not sure. We will continue to work to find better deals on compact tractors.
Where are all the tractors located, since the buyer is paying for shipping?
Up here in Ontario looking for a 2039R , $58000 new with loader and a Deck. Used 2019 with loader and hoe with 140 hrs $45000
It’s getting crazy alright
Seems like everything is upside down in Canadia… a case of beer is half a paycheck 😂
I was never really a KIOTI fanboy,But what you get in Warranty and new price features is so far ahead of every name brand tractor.
I too live in Ontario (eastern) and I encourage you to look seriously at Kubota. I’m a few years out of date with prices, but in 2019 I had every intention of buying a JD compact tractor around the same size as what you are looking at. But I realized the 2 series didn’t have some of the features I really wanted (eg. No true third function valve, although they would cobble up a diverter - not what I wanted). Plus the 2 series wasn’t available with a factory cab, which I was considering. So I looked at the 3 series with the features I wanted … and was shocked by the price. At that point, I hadn’t looked seriously at any other brand. A knew a few people that owned Kubotas and kept telling me to check them out - so I did, and I realized I should have done so right from the start. The bottom line is that Kubota offered more tractor, more options, and more standard features - at a better price - than John Deere. I’m not sure how the current price vs features compare, but do yourself a favour and check it out. I was blinded by “green” and I finally came to my senses. In addition to Kubota, if I were buying again now, I’d also take a good look at Kioti, but remember - one of the most important things when buying a tractor is not the manufacturer, but the DEALER. Take your time to get to know your local dealers… check out their parts and service departments… let them know you’re comparing brands. Make them work for you. You’ll be glad you did.
@@profdave2861 Ive owned a bunch of Kubota equipment,you can't go wrong.I run it all day long.
Do you think that the popularity of the sub compact tractors might raise the prices? I love my little Johnny. They are getting more and more attachments. Why should I upgrade to a 3 or 4 series?
Novel idea. Would also be nice to see Gators or Polaris Side by Sides on the sale. Perhaps in the next one.
Can these be shipped to Canada ?
According to Google, the windshield washer fluid isn't corrosive. I've had the calcium changed to washer fluid in some of the farm tractors & have been happy with it so far. I think my local tire shop actually prefers using windshield washer fluid cause the beet juice is so sticky when having to repair tires.
Much lighter…so not as effective.
Glad to see you providing this service Mr.Tim in your part fighting against why there is a market for rebranded tractors, meaning it is all of john deer's fault for their over priced tractors under performing tractor, with if one buys a john deer they are again taken financially , to have to buy their front end attachment. many would not be able to afford a tractor if they were looking at only john deer tractor with less quality as rebranded tractor is.
No, there are other choices which are not ‘rebranded’. I disagree with your assertion.
Thanks.
We are not in the market now, but I am eager to see how this works. Innovation has always made us better and the consumer wins on successful ideas. Let's see if this is one of them come April.
By the way, where were those pictures taken?
Wyoming.
@TractorTimewithTim Very interesting because the background looks like the Davis Mountain area in West Texas. (Yes, there are mountains in Texas. LOL)
Tim I have a 5410 cab working ac/heat new foam and headliner. Woods loader 4wd 2311 hrs listed for 25,500 and aren’t getting many hits on it. Do you think it’s priced right. Gear transmission
I suspect it is high, but I don’t know.
The market seems to be recovering a bit for spring, but still soft compared to last year.
What you think be good listing price to sell quick and both get fair deal
Hey Tim, have you seen how many compact Deeres Freijie auction has coming up on the 4th of April? I counted at least 25 or 30 of them. They all look new.
Hmm.
See you there! Lol 😊
It has, but at the same time I’m seeing a lot of sales. Right now a brand new 1025R ALB package with the loader and backhoe can be had for a little under $27,000, of course there are dealer fees and whatever on top of that but we also have to consider that our money is worth somewhere between 28 and 40% less than it was just three years ago. I think what we’re seeing is prices changing because of inflation and going up and the tractor market kind of doing with the car industry does from time to time with these changes where it kind of plays games with it. Right now I can get a $56,000 Chevy truck for $40,000, the sticker price is 56,000. If you go ask the dealer but if you look for the sales send time the rebates it’s not hard to get nine or $10,000 off from a motivated dealer but that’s just part of the game, if people are willing to pay more, they’re happy to take your money but that’s why it’s important to learn how to buy things. I’ve always paid about 15-20% less for vehicles than most people do but that’s because I used to work with a Rent-A-Car company and do fleet buying and learned our system works and tractors are very much the same. If you walk into your John Deere Dealer and say OK give me that tractor loader backhoe combination 1025R they’re gonna go ahead and ring you up 30+ thousand dollars but you take your time and look around and find the dealers who are motivated. You can find them for three or 4000 less and when you calculate inflation it’s really not that horrible.
No, I’m talking about the compact tractor market because that’s pretty much all I look at and when you look at TYM and coyote and even companies like bad boy which are actually American for the most part, there’s competition out there, so a lot of the dealers are having to Offer better prices to move tractors. There was a time when it was a huge risk to buy something like a coyote or a TM but if you have a dealer close to you, and especially if you can work on your own machines, you’re gonna be buying your parts through the mail anyway and the quality difference is not that huge. If I were buying something new today in my range would be a 25 to 50 hp compact, of course I’m going to consider John Deere but I’m also going to be looking at TYM and coyote, and even RK, which is made by TYM, Rural King has been pretty consistent on these for a while now. These other brands just aren’t as scary to people anymore because they’ve been around they’re established and they’re a lot of people using them and more shops, servicing them, and inflation happened and there’s not much we can do about it. A $21,000 tractor is now just going to cost $27,000, it’s not great but that’s what inflation does to the market. Our money is just not worth what it used to be which means we have to pay more for stuff now. Just hope they don’t start lowering the quality drastically to deal with the inflation. :/
It’s cool you guys are putting an effort forward to help people out. That’s awesome. :)
I just paid $25,000 for new(old stock ‘23) 3025 with loader and bucket.
Where are they located? Shipping costs could add a lot to the total price.
That is true. When ordering from a dealer, the tractor is delivered for free. Shipping could be as much as $4 per mile, not sure how much they charge for delivery. But shipping would probably be less than the savings on the price.
Yes, shipping will definitely add some.
Please contact Cloudstore.co for details on that.
Would you be able to go pick it up yourself? Are they in Colorado?
Yes, you could pick up. Contact Cloudstore for the locations.
There is a 3520 that has 330 hours on it. So im guessing they wont all be near new?
Two machines are ‘used’. The 331 hour 3520 is amazing. And a 2524 hour 3520 with power reverser coming later. The latter is ‘well worn’, but in much better shape than my ole salty!
I’d like some rim guard but my local dealer wants to charge an arm and a leg for it.
Find another dealer. Once you have it on the trailer, a few more miles is no big deal :-)
Not only that, depending on where you live, you will have to pay sales tax and or a use/property tax for tractors you purchase.
Yes our team will work with you on that and be able to tell you if you need to pay sales tax, depending on where you live.
Today is 4/2/2024 and I got an email from Cloudstore on a price reduction on this reverse auction. James River Equipment has a Blue Tag Ale and the prices are cheaper than Cloudstore. For example: 3025D is 19,999, the 3025E is 22,999 and the 3038E is 26,999. All have 300E loader. All $1000 more if you finance. So Cloudstore needs to bring their prices down more. We’ll see if they drop below James River
Prices will continue to drop until someone pulls the trigger.
Remember, these tractors include I-match, Rimguard, $100 discount, and block heater.
@@TractorTimewithTim James River includes Rimguard when the tractor has a loader. My I-match was additional, and being in NC, didn’t thing I needed a block heater since I keep it in the garage😊
@@Montbound1 ok, fine. Maybe you should look at the Cloudstore prices again. Significant declines since you posted your first comment.
QUESTION: Will this be open for Canadians, or just US Residents?
Contact Cloudstore at the phone number provided to inquire.
Just US for this
Tim, we all know, especially in the last 3 years, There has been a massive increase in prices, especially with small loader tractors, and how they continue. Raising the price is beyond me, but it will be like the automobile And RV too, and they're all it's gonna have to go the other way and like big time the other way.😮
I'm honestly more or less looking TYM or other imports, just because the Kubota and Deere stuff are completely out of my price range. I just wish the good stuff hadn't gone so absolutely nuts on price.
Nevulike dealing with websites that don’t at least have their information about “about us”, jmo!
what would you like to see on the "about us" page? @jeffw7644
Warranty transfer?
Yes, the warranty goes with the tractor.
Is Ole Salty gonna be in the auction???
NO NO ….I can’t let Ole Salty go!! Hate to admit it, but I’ve grown kinda fond of it!
Warranty?
Yes. Original warranty until Oct 25
Can’t u 1099a for me
Deere kubota and those who keep over paying are the cause. The affect is silly prices.
The government borrowing and printing enormous amounts of money is the cause.
@@TractorTimewithTim deere and kubota been overpriced for years now. It's gotten to the point now I wouldnt consider a deere or kubota. Yes the government played a hand but deere and kubota road right along with them.
Looks like no one is really wanting to pay what the dealerships think the tractors are worth. There are still more for sale than they have sold. I know our local JD dealer has more tractors sitting on the lot than they could ever hope to sell. It used to be owned by a nice local guy but JD forced him to sell it to some big regional owner. You now have to go over 150 miles to a JD dealership that is not owned by the crappy regional owner.
Be careful blaming the local dealer. They don’t set the prices.
Tractor sales must be in the dirt and they want to know what the sale price should be
I looked at the website and the prices look high.
Remember, these prices will decline starting 4/2. They will be lowered every 12 hours until you decide to buy! Why do the starting prices matter?
Why are the dealers simply not lowering their asking price? Why the need to resort to a Dutch auction?
The process: bring arm up from side, bend elbow, bring hand towards face, palm out, only the little finger extended, place tip of little fingernail to corner of mouth and bid: one million dollars!!!
So many beautiful tractors and so limited $$$! ☹️
Tim I have an idea-------- what if you took a tiller and mounted some bolt on carbide nubs onto the tines and create a poor mans Harley rake. yes? no? maybe so??? just an idea. I figured I'd let you test this idea. my pockets are not deep enough for a quality Harley rake but I could afford a fist full of bolt-on carbide nubs.
The carbide nubs are the expensive part of a power rake.
but how well will it work? PTO Harley rakes are 10k right? ok just an idea, I didn't say it was a good one. have a nice day tim
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I started following the reverse auction and thought it was an interesting concept and may be some good deals. I quickly lost interest. The price drops were small and time between drops was long. The concept is good, but bigger price drops with shorter time between would build more excitement, which I think would sell these tractors quicker.
Every 12 hours.
John deer tractors are way overpriced nowadays. When I purchased new I didn’t even consider them based on the ridiculous prices they are asking.
Ahhh…. Why don’t they show the price of the tractors sold?
Seems a little fishy
Did they actually sell or were they pulled off the auction?
They are sold.
You are starting to sell your sole for profit. Doesn’t one of your endings have something about this?
How is this selling my soul?
Hey, it comes down to who do you know economics so if you have one of your neighbors that you know and they have a compact tractor with all the attachments you go to them and say hey I'm thinking about buying one could I try your tractor and see how it is if it's something that will work for me or not project is done guess what I didn't have to buy a tractor so who do you know economics comes into play a lot these days😂
NICE try!
I think the quality of JD is going down the drain. Bought a new 2024 3039r, dropped off with 2.7hrs on it. At 6.7 hrs with 1.4 miles on it the front right seal and wheel bearing failed. After it being at the shop a month they where about to deliver it and now the power steering pump has failed. I feel like I bought a used tractor already but its all covered by warranty. Quality control at the plants must be at an all time low.
I suggest an OtisInnovation.com front axle vent (use code ttwt for 5% off) to reduce the risk of front axle seal failure. We show a video replacing this seal.
@@TractorTimewithTim I bought the vented dipstick right after it left a puddle. But here it is over a month later and i still don't have my tractor back. Very disappointed for buying a new tractor and having to go through this.
seems like alot of brands are having seal issues.
@@als8518yea, not sure if it has always been an issue, or if it is recent.
@@richardlabarre6575right. Well, at least warranty is covering. I’m a bit surprised about the power steering pump.
And I disagree with your comment,all tractor woe's are directly or indirectly John Deere fault! I'm
Not in market, just nosey. Is this a group of dealers. I have to assume the sellers are pulling in people like TTWT, for legitimacy? You’re kind of sticking your neck(name) out there. Hope it works out.
Cash in hand, buy used. If you need to finance, buy new.
Financing is available. Contact cloudstore.co to apply
Everything is increasing, not just tractors. Inflation is out of control because we've got a dimwit in the white house setting policy and one of the three stooges is the treasury secretary. Voting matters. Get it right next time or kiss the country goodbye.
…and don’t forget to blame the opposition party which seems just as eager to spend money we don’t have!
@@TractorTimewithTim well there's some things we have to spend on and we'd have it if the economy was rolling along like it should be.
Price drop every week, 18 days, you will be waiting a long time for a good deal.
I believe there’s a price drop every 12 hours until the tractor sells.
Price drop every twelve hours. Was that not clear in the video???
Well thank you to the democrat voters that voted for this grossly inflated hyper spending administration. Its literally in everything we purchase currently.
Not just the D’s. The R’s seem to be just as eager to spend.