I was once in that position of deciding between 1025r vs. 2032/8r. Like Tim said, I think the big thing with 1025r is access to tight spots, which I didn't' have a need for. Therefore, I decided to go with 2038r, prefer to have a little too much tractor than wishing I had a little more. I absolutely love that tractor, we use it all the time.
I bought a 1025r thinking I'd be using it to cut grass 90% of the time ( a step up from my lawn tractor). I love my 1025r but I use it for so much more than cutting grass. So if I had to do it over again I'd consider the 2038r more, and consider a zero turn for grass cutting instead of the pricey mowing deck. That being said, I'm very happy with my 1025r.
thanks Tim. I will be getting the 2038r. I went to my dealer the other day and took the 1025r for a test ride in the parking lot and manage to find some nice pot holes. Then I took the 2038r for a ride and you are 100% correct when you say there is a different feel between the two. It is worth the price increase to go to the 2038r. What a great site you have. Going to get the shorter forks also. I almost ordered the longer ones till I watched your fork episode. Thanks Tim.
Noticed you did not mention the tier 4 stuff with anything above 25hp. Like not to let auto regen indoors etc, But the HP bump is big help for PTO implements. Thanks for the video comparison!
Correct. As of now, DPF is a fact of life. I believe Deere (via Yanmar) will move away from it if the Mahindra approach works well...but apparently, they are not yet confident in that approach.
@@TractorTimewithTim Mahindra employs EGR Valve plus what ever else. This equals more oil changes from my experience with diesel engine and EGRS. Also buying pre 2013 tractor is also another work around. Ya, i know you are dealing with NEW units. Have good day! Thanks ,again!
I care for four and a half acres in rural upstate NY and own a 1023e with a loader, 54"deck, 4' brush cutter, 5' rake and back blade, and 54" snow blower. I have had a 2038r with a loader and 72" deck as a loaner for about 2 weeks. Lemme tell you... It is impressive. Comfortable, stable, powerful, smooth, and the ergos are great. I don't farm... I just do typical things like mow, move big rocks around, cut brush, and rake out my gravel driveway. I liken the 2038R to owning a Ferrari or a Bugatti.... This thing is awesome to use,(TURBO!!!), but I wouldn't want to pay for parts, tires, and maintenance. I say that as a homeowner with a relatively small piece of property. All the things like larger tires, fancier lift, systems, pollution control devices turbocharger, will eventually cost money to fix or maintain. If I farmed at all or had a larger piece of land the 2038R would be an incredible machine for me. I was very fortunate to be able to test drive this one for so long...I've got a hundred hours on my 1023e and have already put about 8 hours on this 2038R ...To be honest I can't wait to get my 1023e back. For me, on my property and with the way I use it, the 2038R feels like I'm trying to shave my face with a weed eater instead of an electric razor. Don't get me wrong that 2038R is well worth the extra 12 grand or so it would cost.... If I had a need for its size and extra features. OH...The e-throttle I love.... Every tractor should have that!... Thanks for the great videos Tim!!! ( Tim did nail this... Dead on accurate comparo )
Hey Tim Thanks for your input and views. You have actually helped us make the right choice for our purchase here in Australia. We have just ordered our new 3039R with mid and front pto, 4in1 loader.
My 2038R is being delivered this Wednesday. I had ordered the 3039R in July to be delivered in October which was pushed back to late January 2022 and with the strike probably later. Just found out today the dealer had a new 2038R on the lot today so made the purchase -- looking forward to getting it. This will be my first tractor. I blame you for putting that desire there :) my finance committee gave me permission :)
Bough 2025r well woth extra mony to me. Bigger tires the main reason. It's taller dosen't sink the front tires when pushing snow or on soft ground. Loving it!
As usual, I enjoy your videos. "BUT" you still avoided answering if you could only have 1 tractor, which one? I am a 2032 owner and went that route because I needed bigger tires to cross a creek. I also needed 800 pound min lift capacity. Except for those 2 things, my tractor is too big and too heavy (leaves ruts) for 50% of my work around the home. I LOVE my tractor but!!!! On the other hand, for me the 2032R has been large enough, stable enough and heavy enough to do most anything I put it to. I go back to what I believe you said. Get the smallest tractor you can use for your biggest chores, otherwise it will be way to big for your smallest chores.
I’ve owned all three.... 1022, 2025r, and now 2038r. I agree with your assessments. I finally grew into the 2038r because I wanted increased lift height and capacity. Btw , I recently added spacers to my rear wheels. What a positive difference! While only 2.5 inches on each side my tractor feels incredibly more stable when on angled turf or in the woods. The bigger frame on the 2038 gives it that “ real tractor” feel. And, yes it needs a real toolbox. Love my JD!
Great video! But you forgot to mention that the 2038r has a DPF and the 1025r and 2025r doesn't. You have to replace that filter eventually and that is a very expensive cost.
The manual lists that ash removal or service may be required around 3000 hrs. The cleaning is supposed to be performed by the dealer. I guess at that point it will be determined if a DPF cleaning or replacement is required.
Enjoyed the discussion. Have been looking a the 3 series and 2 series to solve my biggest issue: loader lift capacity. The new MSL loader may be an inexpensive upgrade with multiple benefits. Just waiting for you to look at it too.
I would bet a 3E has Much more ground clearance than the 2038R. ( 3E is 14.3 inches!) The optional 43 inch Tires ( R4) give it even more clearance. No low hanging stuff underside to get in the way of the Potato "hills". Great Video Tim ! I like Pats Videos too :)
IMHO, JD screwed the pooch on ground clearance on the Gen-2 2-series. The Gen-1 had much more ground clearance in the rear. Seriously, my X500 riding mower has more ground clearance in the rear than does a 2038R. Why?
With our current move to upgrade from the 1023e series to the 2025r, there were two primary reasons. Compatibility with all our attachments including the mower deck, price and major changes under the hood. Going to the 203x series the price jump was $7000+ AND we would need new attachments like the mower deck. Not only that another HUGE issue for was the anti pollution crap they are required to build into the 203x series.. including the requirement for D.E.F. once you get to that size. I wanted to actually upgrade to the 203x series but I just could not justify all those difference plus the cost.
I don’t think the 1023e mmm from 2019 or before will fit the 2025r. Have you actually tried this??? There is no DEF requirement on any of the 2-4 series Deere. They are able to meet tier 4 with DPF. One last question....when you desired an ‘upgrade’, what are you wanting upgraded? 2025r really only upgrades 3 pt hitch capacity. All other capacities are the same.
@@TractorTimewithTim UPDATE: I have a call pending to get this clarified for everyone.. The info from both directions is way too different so I have contacted them and am waiting for a reply to clarify all this for everyone.. I will post again once they get back to me.. Because IF you are correct, then I need to find out why the 2032 is $7000 more than the 2025. The differences don't warrant that huge a jump on its own. Both the dealer AND John Deere corporate, not 6 days ago, personally told me that the upgrade of my tractor to the 2025r is seamless except the drive over brackets on the deck would be swapped out since I want to keep my own deck instead of just getting a new one, which saves me some money. 2025 comes with a 60", I want to keep the 54" but just need to swap out the brackets due to the difference in size of the deck. The 2025 has more horsepower and there are other changes and updates for 2020 as well according to John Deere corporate. Additionally, the extra hydraulic capacity just like the new tractor you just showed, is also part of the package now. For the heavy work we are doing on our property, including acres of tree trucks, brush removal, tilling etc, we need a bit more power at this point. As I said, while I really preferred the 203x I just can't justify the cost for what little change there is. As for DEF, it was corporate that also told me straight up that the new 203x series for 2020 has DEF that they were required to upgrade them due to changes in the law.. My dealer then also made the same comment when we were discussing the differences in the conference call. Maybe I misunderstood and they referenced the 202 models but they were clear that if we decided to jump to the 203x series, changes meant they would now have to conform to pollution law requirements in some states thus a they had redesigned some to accommodate that. Ironically my state has no pollution laws or requirements but apparently the changes are at the federal level. I would find it hard to believe that John Deere corporate and the dealer would both not know what's going on... BTW, JD corp was involved due to another situation regarding the tractor thus how why they are involved in this process. I already have the artillian setup with both lower and upper grapple.. but personally I do not like the way it is setup with the button add-on to control the thing. The grapple is great but the controller sucks having to hold down that little button while trying to manipulate things.. It is hard to engage that while trying to also tilt or raise the arm and grapple at the same time. I am looking for a paddle button to swap with it so I can just use my pinkey to pull the paddle so my hand can easily hold the stick at the same time. Anyhow, I will ask the dealer again about what you said. Maybe it is a 2021 change and it was misspoke or I misunderstood that.. But they were clear, both corporate and the dealer that 203x series would or now did have new pollution controls and would require DEF. And it was one reason for such a huge price difference between 2025 and 3x + size. Personally, I think they meant the 2021 version 30xx series were changing. So now that you brought it up, I am going to get clarification.
203x and 30xx use DPF not DEF. simply a fact. Choose to believe me or not. Maybe there is some trick to make the 2025r use the older 1023e deck. Not sure. Have no idea if $7000 is accurate...BUT...it IS worth it. Dramatically different / better machine.
@@TractorTimewithTim Wonder if that is what they mean't (DPF)? Still waiting for a call back so hopefully I can get clarity soon... As for the deck, yep it works.. They just swap out the current connector parts. Basically because the 25 has a larger deck and is a bit bigger tractor, the deck attaches with different parts to the tractor.. Apparently that can easily be changed on the deck as well.. The dealer already has those brackets in stock as they often sell the 54" deck with the 2025.. BUT they also did say that is NOT the case for the 2032.. We would require the new deck for that tractor. We are also keep the same bucket even though it is a bit smaller. I don't need a bigger bucket and the fact mine is modified and I don't want to have to redo all the mods is also a consideration. As for the $7000 price jump from the 2025 to the 2032.. I just don't see the difference between those two tractors being worth $7000. I really don't.. What does it have that might make it have that much of a price increase? I mean it is a bit more horsepower but what else does it offer above the 2025 that would cause it to be that much?
I still can't tell in your opening logo if the dot over the "i" is wearing a mask or if it's a cheeseburger with a melty cheese slice corner hanging off the burger bun 🤔. Great comparison btw.
I got a 2017 2032R. 2038R was not worth the difference for my needs. I have 5 acres, all maintained. Expensive tractor but the 2032R is so versatile and has the power needed for my needs.The command cut is awesome! I have the 72D deck. I simply glide thru high, thick fescue like butta
I have a 1025r a 2017 model I love it I absolutely love it but after using it on many different projects I really wished at the time that they had the 2038r like they do now I probably would have went with it I do plan on upgrading at some point when I feel it's worth the extra expense but for now I'm Still Loving my 1025r and I don't know what I would do without it
I just got a gen 1 2025R that I traded my 1025r in on and the 2025 feels like a much bigger tractor when driving it I am going to miss a little movement on my 1025r
3R and 4 series reviews coming soon? 😁 Of course that might make me regret getting the 3e so maybe not...lol 3e is the "biggest" tractor with the shortest wheelbase I could find, I still struggle cramming it in the garage occasionally😂
I would have to go with 2038r for pto hp for heavy mowing. The 2 series frame is just a bit too big . Now if there was ever such a model as a 1 series 1032r or 1038r, it would be near on perfect for my application as!
when you were reviewing the 2038 there was a sunscreen in the background. I like that one--could you tell me where to get one for MY 1025R. many thanks
Great video! Thanks. I'm newer to all this. Wondered about the handle attached to the loader frame on the step side. Where do I look for something like that? I don't like how the side spot is positioned on that side because I'm afraid of tearing it off if I have to grab something fast if I slip or need to break my fall.
Many thanks for the shout out Tim, I logged in to more notifications than I've ever had. I think I said the "end user" in my video, I honestly think they're all really great tractors, just depends on what each individual needs. Until watching you video I guess I didn't realize the JD's thought process was for the glove box to be a toolbox LOL
Watched your vid last year before Tim posted this one, and it's how I made up my mind on the 2038 over the 1025. New land and tractor owner, developing 32 acres of completely raw hills and trees. TLB for $32k vs $20k was a steep difference. Worked hard this fall, and now have pole barn, 1000ft of road, and 1/2 acre cleared, graded, and graveled off-grid (solar and well) trailer campsite. Phase 2 will be building a home and 3 will be farming. Think maybe it's paying for itself?
th-cam.com/video/NkmeONm9iBA/w-d-xo.html The video shows the steps involved in disabling it, here is the steps... 1. Turn key on but dont start. 2. With your right middle finger, press AND HOLD DOWN the display mode button. (The button in the top middle, that has little windshield wiper symbols on it). So with this button HELD DOWN, the password you will need to enter with the turn signals is RLLRLR. 3. The screen now should say "ECU". Press the right turn signal 3x to see "ICC". 4. Select ICC by pressing the display mode button. 5. Right arrow (turn signal) to 014. 014 will say 01, if RIO is enabled. 6. Switch to edit mode by pressing the hazard button on and off within 2 seconds. 7.The right arrow changes the number, the left arrow switches to the other number, so press the left arrow to move the cursor to the 1. 8. Press the right arrow until it says 0. Now both numbers should say 00. 9. Press and hold the display mode switch 3 seconds to exit. 10. For the change to take effect, Shut the key off and wait a few seconds, then start. Special note: If you have error codes displayed, momentarily press the display mode switch to acknowledge the error.
The 1025R is incredible for it’s versatility and for the home owner with, say 2,4,10 acres or maybe more it can be an all around machine, but there will be a time when a larger tractor is necessary it’s no more complicated than that. I’ve said before the JD has made the “gentlemen’s tractor” you’ve shown over and over the ability of the 1025R it’s incredible what it can accomplish for it’s size and power rating., but, again, sometimes bigger is better.
Always good to see videos like this. At the very least we are well informed when it would come time to make a decision on buying a tractor. You do a great job doing these comparisons Tim.
Great video. I didn't know a few of the details you've talked about. I've been contemplating purchasing either a 20r or 10r for my self and inlays to take care of their property. While I like the maneuverability of the 10r the things you shared in this video made me contemplate getting a 2038r. Thank you!
back when i was looking last year and i spent over a year deciding it came down to lift on FEL I wanted to support 5acres and my woodworking with pallets of lumber. For everything else i liked the 1025 (especially cost). I even considered just going lighter on wood as in smaller stacks. But with getting older & since i'm plopping down a huge amount of $$ anyway get what I wanted. One thing to consider as well is amortization over time. Sorry MBA coming out in me. I did a side by side comparison, and found that the incremental amount extra to jump to the 2038r was not that significant(at least in my view). Having used it now for 8 months, glad i did make the jump. However one area while not significant is if you use the belly mower or even pull behind mower, the impact on the yard after a rain is visible. Since I did do remguard in the tires and just with weight of the machine, on occasion i left marks in the yard. Now i know that and avoid by waiting more but it is something that the 1025 would be better. I just lifted a big pallet of lumber up on to a deck with 16' lumber and it did not grunt. I'm sure i could not have done that with the 1025. Thanks for the advise last year. BTW, my dealer when we were talking indicated the few 2025's he sells usually get brought back and traded in on 2032's or 38r's. He had two used on the lot when i ordered mine. Not bashing them, but he indicated that was just the case. Cheers and thanks again for the advice it did work out for me.
Since the 1025r has smaller tires than the 2038r, I’m not sure that it would be any ‘lighter’ on your yard. The extra weight of the 2038r is distributed over a larger surface area. Make sense?
I would like that as well Tim!!! I feel that would be a great video. I myself have the same thoughts. Taller tires more ground surface less weight. But I'm not sure if data will reflect this enough to change the offset in the weight of the 2 machines. 2400lbs on 2038r/ 1400lbs on 1025r. Tractor data numbers Tim!!! Just was looking at things.
I love the information you put out. I have a smallish yard surrounded by woods and overgrown fields. When my cub cadet has made its last pass/project in my yard, we will be getting a Johnny.
Is there a more informative compact/subcompact tractor source anywhere else on the net? I think not! Great information as always and I personally believe you are as unbiased as a person can be when it comes to your experience and opinions.
Thanks Tim! I'm looking to buy a compact tractor right now. I have some older "farm" tractors that are not equipped like I need and are too big for what I want to do. I have a loader on a 1954 JD 60 but with no power steering and a hand clutch it's very hard to do much with it. I am very glad to see the 1025 and the 2038 side by side. it's hard to get a size comparison from a picture on line. Great video and very helpful. Thanks' again.
Tim, I have a new 2038R with just 11 hours on it. I researched tractors for over 2-years. I looked closely at the Deere series 1, 2, & 3 for my 10-acre lot. Almost purchased the 2025, but the specs told a story of slightly diminished output as compared to the 1025R. In other words, not enough power. The online reviews of the 2038 are excellent, plus no one ever complains of too much power. I would add that one should consider adding rear wheel extensions, which contributes greatly to the stability/safety of the tractor. I also had the rear tires filled with RimGuard (beet juice), which adds about 500 lbs to the rear. Attachments from Artillian, Heavy Hitch, Mudds Customs, and Deere are quality items.
All good points Tim. I bought a 1025R in order to access gated backyards for clean-up jobs and other tasks. The maneuverability of the 1 series is incredible.
BTW, one of the cool things about buying my tractor is that I have become good friend with my dealer. He drives right by my place on his way home. He stops by for a beer every once in a while and I get the skinny on John Deere machines. Also, I have a John Deere history book that I would like to send you guys. How do I do it?
Before I purchased the Deere, I was looking at Kubota, Bobcat (their new sub-compact tractor line, LS and New Holland. Bobcat and Deere were the only ones who came to my property with their tractors...Deere was the only one who took their tractor off the ramp, drove down the hill in my backyard to my land and drove back out. So yeah. Easy Sell.
brett katz :were planing on perchuse 6 or 7 kubota loader tractors when we trade the 2 deeres and 3 newhollands because deere and newhollands here rediclas here and poor service wich we end up gave up dealing with deere and newholland
Michael Mac Tavish The Service in my area (Northern Virginia) has a good reputation. Not saying Kubota or New Holland do not. Deere was the only one who tested their tractor on my decline. There are so many dealers for Deere. I’m sure there are some horrible one last out there.
You know you sold me on the 1025r and I upgraded to the 2038r. I love the Tractor hated the service went to a 60 horse orange tractor with a cab. Guess which one I still till with and bushhog small areas? The 2038r of course lol. I remember a certain you tube guy telling me to get the three series but I am glad I didn’t listen. I pull a six foot tiller with ease and a five foot mx5 and destroy anything that gets in my way. I am glad to see you like the 2038 r. Thanks for all your help those few years ago to get me started.
Great comparison Tim & Christie. 2038 is the only other tractor I would love to own. The maneuverability around my yard is the only thing that prevents me. It would however be fantastic for plowing my 1/4 mile driveway.
Can you please do a comparison on the Mahindra 1526 and the 2038 r I have a 1526 and everyone talks trash bout them but there really good tractors. Don’t knock em till you try them! Please
Tim, personally I think you were a bit to fearful of offending someone in your decision on a tractor out of the models Deere has available. If there were not a market for the variety of tractors with different ‘features’ or capabilities or whatever you want to label it, would Deere build so many? Bottom line is you compared 2 models you have experience with. You in that comparison provided some insights into things to consider as others are shopping. Again it is kinda of like buying a car/truck-determine as well as you can what you need to do with that purchase and then reach your decision! Too elaborate around the car theme, if your primary need is to haul around a family of 6, you would not look at a subcompact car that gets 50 mpg on the highway, but only comfortable seats 4! Same applies to different models of tractors! You determine your needs and then best try to match the model to meet those needs. Of course cost factors into it, and as you pointed out, the subcompact 1 series in all aspects cost less, and they do perform at levels most that have not used them do not believe, but there are limits! Some things you may not be able to do, while others may be doable but done in smaller short term sizes and with more time involved.
Great job Tim. I had a 1025r for two years (probably due to your early videos) and upgraded to the 2038r while you were still shopping for a larger tractor, and in the end you came to the same conclusion as me! All the marketing departments and spec sheets create confusion, but seat time is a fact Jack. After running both a 1025r and a 2038r for the same applications for two years each, the 2038r just shines brighter in refinement, usability and capability over the 1025r. Hard to describe until you run one, and it should for the cost and updated design. I’m really curious to see what JD does to the 3r to separate that machine further from the 2r in future redesign.
Great videos Tim. I bought mine in 2017 and love it. I originally wanted a 2032r, but the Dealer didn't have any in stock and made me a great deal on the 2038r. Thanks again for all the information you and your family provide for us DIYers God Bless
oh how i wished when i bought my 2520 in 06, that it would of had all them ideas on it back then. still happy with it, but boy i would be happier now-ha!! great video oh. hey u working out some lately? looking like ur getting some better guns on ya! OR u got a tighter shirt in that short sleeved shirt u was wearing-hehe
Tim; I have a 5085 M that I use in my poultry operation and my dad purchased a 5075E to use on the farm for the purpose of a three point hitch water furrower implement. The M series (like the R series in the compacts) are far more desirable, with a multitude of refinements not offered in the E (economy) series. I joked with my dad that his E series was a Mahindra painted green. Nice tractors, just cheaply made.
Harvey, one thing I notice is that E VS. R is much different at the different series. 1, for example is very minor. 3 is a huge increase in capability/capacity. 5 is the one you accurately describe. One needs to study closely since there is very little consistency in what E vs. M vs. R really is.
It would be nice if Deere would offer a cab with air on the 2038R. Several competitors do on this size of tractor. Maybe in the future it will be an option. Thanks for all your great videos!
I gotta throw some love to the 2025r, I love mine, got the 260b backhoe with it and use it more than I ever thought I would. Ive done box blade work with it, dug post holes with an auger, my wife even uses it for her garden work and it has impressed me every time..Tried the 1025r also but it just felt to small. No regrets with the 2025r. It will never do the work of the big boys but it was never meant to either. Small size and no stupid emissions equipment are other great perks of the 2025r. Thanks TTWT for introducing me to these great little tractors.
Brake pedal usage is HIGH here when back dragging Snow on a icy driveway and bucket edge is down and tires are up for maximum scraping the driveway. IF the drive is sloped or crowned you MUST use the brakes to steer the tractor or you will end up off the side and maybe in a ditch.
Another great comparison video. Your channel should be required viewing for anyone looking to purchase a JD. It's been fun watching your channel grow and I've learned a ton along the way.
Agree on the 2025R - It's essentially a larger frame 1025R & for some that must be an advantage. The 2032R & 2038R as far as I can tell are almost identical exc. the HP. Is is worth the cost difference to get the higher HP? I visited the dealer for the first time last week and at least got to sit on & drive a 1025R (BTW, salesman mentioned "Tractor Time w/Tim") - Felt very comfortable on it and I'd never been on a subcompact. They didn't have a 2032 or 2038 - He said deliveries are running behind & lead times are stretching out pretty far right now but they have them due in so I'll be going back.
That mower deck electronic lift feature is a great one.. About time JD offered two remotes on the back besides the 'power behind' feature.. IMHO, that's relatively worthless - and I've added enough items to actually make that a second remote... ('15 3039R). Good video, Tim...
I have watched a number of video's from you and maybe I missed it, BUT I have not seen anything about how the machines handle hills. Your land seems to be very flat - not every farm is like that. Could you do a video on stability on this, various options such a weights to make the tractor more stable, your opinion of what might be the steepest grade suitable for your tractors. Just a thought
Wow, what a great objective comparison. Certainly appreciate your willingness to share your opinions and thoughts. I have a Massey Ferguson 1740M that is quite similar to the 2038R. My favorite features are auto throttle and cruise control. Cruise control comes in handy when using the rotary mower in larger fields.
I liked this video a lot. I like the 2038R better after watching this video. Maneuverability is important sometimes, but most people can find away to work around that unless you are in a very small yard.
I looked at a used 2032,sadly it had been abused,low hours but hard hours.So I decided to not buy it. Found another one ,but feel like there asking to much for it 1150 hr. 2014 model? Asking 20G! Offered 15-16-17-18 declined. Is it worth it? One owner,good service record . Then there is a new 2038r with fel for like little over 20G!! Setting on same lot!! I enjoy your video's!
I was once in that position of deciding between 1025r vs. 2032/8r. Like Tim said, I think the big thing with 1025r is access to tight spots, which I didn't' have a need for. Therefore, I decided to go with 2038r, prefer to have a little too much tractor than wishing I had a little more. I absolutely love that tractor, we use it all the time.
I did the same thing. 1025r to 2025r to 2038r. Hands down I love my 2038r. I have to admit I sometimes miss my 1025r.
I bought a 1025r thinking I'd be using it to cut grass 90% of the time ( a step up from my lawn tractor). I love my 1025r but I use it for so much more than cutting grass. So if I had to do it over again I'd consider the 2038r more, and consider a zero turn for grass cutting instead of the pricey mowing deck. That being said, I'm very happy with my 1025r.
Thing about the 2038 you have to have def and of course they are more expensive than the 1025 I plan on getting the 1025 for now🤔
thanks Tim. I will be getting the 2038r. I went to my dealer the other day and took the 1025r for a test ride in the parking lot and manage to find some nice pot holes. Then I took the 2038r for a ride and you are 100% correct when you say there is a different feel between the two. It is worth the price increase to go to the 2038r. What a great site you have. Going to get the shorter forks also. I almost ordered the longer ones till I watched your fork episode. Thanks Tim.
Sounds good! Congratulations!
Tim, I’m just now upgrading my 2025 to a2038 based on the power and size great video thanks
Great comparison video. I just settled with a kubota L2501. I love it
Noticed you did not mention the tier 4 stuff with anything above 25hp. Like not to let auto regen indoors etc, But the HP bump is big help for PTO implements. Thanks for the video comparison!
Correct. As of now, DPF is a fact of life. I believe Deere (via Yanmar) will move away from it if the Mahindra approach works well...but apparently, they are not yet confident in that approach.
@@TractorTimewithTim Mahindra employs EGR Valve plus what ever else. This equals more oil changes from my experience with diesel engine and EGRS. Also buying pre 2013 tractor is also another work around. Ya, i know you are dealing with NEW units. Have good day! Thanks ,again!
I care for four and a half acres in rural upstate NY and own a 1023e with a loader, 54"deck, 4' brush cutter, 5' rake and back blade, and 54" snow blower. I have had a 2038r with a loader and 72" deck as a loaner for about 2 weeks. Lemme tell you... It is impressive. Comfortable, stable, powerful, smooth, and the ergos are great. I don't farm... I just do typical things like mow, move big rocks around, cut brush, and rake out my gravel driveway. I liken the 2038R to owning a Ferrari or a Bugatti.... This thing is awesome to use,(TURBO!!!), but I wouldn't want to pay for parts, tires, and maintenance. I say that as a homeowner with a relatively small piece of property. All the things like larger tires, fancier lift, systems, pollution control devices turbocharger, will eventually cost money to fix or maintain. If I farmed at all or had a larger piece of land the 2038R would be an incredible machine for me. I was very fortunate to be able to test drive this one for so long...I've got a hundred hours on my 1023e and have already put about 8 hours on this 2038R ...To be honest I can't wait to get my 1023e back. For me, on my property and with the way I use it, the 2038R feels like I'm trying to shave my face with a weed eater instead of an electric razor. Don't get me wrong that 2038R is well worth the extra 12 grand or so it would cost.... If I had a need for its size and extra features. OH...The e-throttle I love.... Every tractor should have that!... Thanks for the great videos Tim!!! ( Tim did nail this... Dead on accurate comparo )
Hey Tim Thanks for your input and views. You have actually helped us make the right choice for our purchase here in Australia. We have just ordered our new 3039R with mid and front pto, 4in1 loader.
Congratulations!
Hello Tim, you hit it right on the head, I have the same opinion that you do on the two models , you did a great job on the breakdown on the two,
I think both has it's own purpose and the 1025R is good for small farms and good sized home sites, but anything bigger, I would go with the 2038R.
My 2038R is being delivered this Wednesday. I had ordered the 3039R in July to be delivered in October which was pushed back to late January 2022 and with the strike probably later. Just found out today the dealer had a new 2038R on the lot today so made the purchase -- looking forward to getting it. This will be my first tractor. I blame you for putting that desire there :) my finance committee gave me permission :)
Congratulations!
Bough 2025r well woth extra mony to me. Bigger tires the main reason. It's taller dosen't sink the front tires when pushing snow or on soft ground. Loving it!
I have a small farm and went with the 2032R. The 1025 was just too small for what I need to do. The 1025 is perfect for a homeowner.
Good videos, Tim. Thanks. Your cat knows John Deere is the best!
As usual, I enjoy your videos. "BUT" you still avoided answering if you could only have 1 tractor, which one? I am a 2032 owner and went that route because I needed bigger tires to cross a creek. I also needed 800 pound min lift capacity.
Except for those 2 things, my tractor is too big and too heavy (leaves ruts) for 50% of my work around the home. I LOVE my tractor but!!!! On the other hand, for me the 2032R has been large enough, stable enough and heavy enough to do most anything I put it to.
I go back to what I believe you said. Get the smallest tractor you can use for your biggest chores, otherwise it will be way to big for your smallest chores.
That last sentence is the best advice. My ground gets soft in the rain and my 345 can leave "mud trails" so my wish list is a 1025.
I’ve owned all three.... 1022, 2025r, and now 2038r. I agree with your assessments. I finally grew into the 2038r because I wanted increased lift height and capacity. Btw , I recently added spacers to my rear wheels. What a positive difference! While only 2.5 inches on each side my tractor feels incredibly more stable when on angled turf or in the woods. The bigger frame on the 2038 gives it that “ real tractor” feel. And, yes it needs a real toolbox. Love my JD!
Great video! But you forgot to mention that the 2038r has a DPF and the 1025r and 2025r doesn't. You have to replace that filter eventually and that is a very expensive cost.
The manual lists that ash removal or service may be required around 3000 hrs. The cleaning is supposed to be performed by the dealer. I guess at that point it will be determined if a DPF cleaning or replacement is required.
Enjoyed the discussion. Have been looking a the 3 series and 2 series to solve my biggest issue: loader lift capacity. The new MSL loader may be an inexpensive upgrade with multiple benefits. Just waiting for you to look at it too.
Hopefully not too far off.
In the video the 1025 seems small. My sister in law told me mine was a giant lawn mower! It does not feel same to me. I think it is just right.
I have a non green tractor, About the same size as 1025R and I am glad it fits everywhere i need it to...
I would bet a 3E has Much more ground clearance than the 2038R. ( 3E is 14.3 inches!) The optional 43 inch Tires ( R4) give it even more clearance. No low hanging stuff underside to get in the way of the Potato "hills". Great Video Tim ! I like Pats Videos too :)
IMHO, JD screwed the pooch on ground clearance on the Gen-2 2-series. The Gen-1 had much more ground clearance in the rear. Seriously, my X500 riding mower has more ground clearance in the rear than does a 2038R. Why?
With our current move to upgrade from the 1023e series to the 2025r, there were two primary reasons. Compatibility with all our attachments including the mower deck, price and major changes under the hood. Going to the 203x series the price jump was $7000+ AND we would need new attachments like the mower deck. Not only that another HUGE issue for was the anti pollution crap they are required to build into the 203x series.. including the requirement for D.E.F. once you get to that size. I wanted to actually upgrade to the 203x series but I just could not justify all those difference plus the cost.
I don’t think the 1023e mmm from 2019 or before will fit the 2025r.
Have you actually tried this???
There is no DEF requirement on any of the 2-4 series Deere. They are able to meet tier 4 with DPF.
One last question....when you desired an ‘upgrade’, what are you wanting upgraded? 2025r really only upgrades 3 pt hitch capacity. All other capacities are the same.
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UPDATE: I have a call pending to get this clarified for everyone.. The info from both directions is way too different so I have contacted them and am waiting for a reply to clarify all this for everyone.. I will post again once they get back to me.. Because IF you are correct, then I need to find out why the 2032 is $7000 more than the 2025. The differences don't warrant that huge a jump on its own.
Both the dealer AND John Deere corporate, not 6 days ago, personally told me that the upgrade of my tractor to the 2025r is seamless except the drive over brackets on the deck would be swapped out since I want to keep my own deck instead of just getting a new one, which saves me some money. 2025 comes with a 60", I want to keep the 54" but just need to swap out the brackets due to the difference in size of the deck. The 2025 has more horsepower and there are other changes and updates for 2020 as well according to John Deere corporate. Additionally, the extra hydraulic capacity just like the new tractor you just showed, is also part of the package now. For the heavy work we are doing on our property, including acres of tree trucks, brush removal, tilling etc, we need a bit more power at this point.
As I said, while I really preferred the 203x I just can't justify the cost for what little change there is. As for DEF, it was corporate that also told me straight up that the new 203x series for 2020 has DEF that they were required to upgrade them due to changes in the law.. My dealer then also made the same comment when we were discussing the differences in the conference call. Maybe I misunderstood and they referenced the 202 models but they were clear that if we decided to jump to the 203x series, changes meant they would now have to conform to pollution law requirements in some states thus a they had redesigned some to accommodate that. Ironically my state has no pollution laws or requirements but apparently the changes are at the federal level. I would find it hard to believe that John Deere corporate and the dealer would both not know what's going on... BTW, JD corp was involved due to another situation regarding the tractor thus how why they are involved in this process.
I already have the artillian setup with both lower and upper grapple.. but personally I do not like the way it is setup with the button add-on to control the thing. The grapple is great but the controller sucks having to hold down that little button while trying to manipulate things.. It is hard to engage that while trying to also tilt or raise the arm and grapple at the same time. I am looking for a paddle button to swap with it so I can just use my pinkey to pull the paddle so my hand can easily hold the stick at the same time.
Anyhow, I will ask the dealer again about what you said. Maybe it is a 2021 change and it was misspoke or I misunderstood that.. But they were clear, both corporate and the dealer that 203x series would or now did have new pollution controls and would require DEF. And it was one reason for such a huge price difference between 2025 and 3x + size.
Personally, I think they meant the 2021 version 30xx series were changing. So now that you brought it up, I am going to get clarification.
203x and 30xx use DPF not DEF. simply a fact.
Choose to believe me or not.
Maybe there is some trick to make the 2025r use the older 1023e deck. Not sure.
Have no idea if $7000 is accurate...BUT...it IS worth it. Dramatically different / better machine.
@@TractorTimewithTim Wonder if that is what they mean't (DPF)? Still waiting for a call back so hopefully I can get clarity soon... As for the deck, yep it works.. They just swap out the current connector parts. Basically because the 25 has a larger deck and is a bit bigger tractor, the deck attaches with different parts to the tractor.. Apparently that can easily be changed on the deck as well.. The dealer already has those brackets in stock as they often sell the 54" deck with the 2025.. BUT they also did say that is NOT the case for the 2032.. We would require the new deck for that tractor.
We are also keep the same bucket even though it is a bit smaller. I don't need a bigger bucket and the fact mine is modified and I don't want to have to redo all the mods is also a consideration.
As for the $7000 price jump from the 2025 to the 2032.. I just don't see the difference between those two tractors being worth $7000. I really don't.. What does it have that might make it have that much of a price increase? I mean it is a bit more horsepower but what else does it offer above the 2025 that would cause it to be that much?
I still can't tell in your opening logo if the dot over the "i" is wearing a mask or if it's a cheeseburger with a melty cheese slice corner hanging off the burger bun 🤔. Great comparison btw.
cheeseburger.
tractor cat is doing management while they film these awesome tractors
Elk Creek Acres, Pat, is an awesome man
The extra horsepower in the 2038R pays off if you have a long, steep road or driveway to a field that needs bushhogging.
I got a 2017 2032R. 2038R was not worth the difference for my needs. I have 5 acres, all maintained. Expensive tractor but the 2032R is so versatile and has the power needed for my needs.The command cut is awesome! I have the 72D deck. I simply glide thru high, thick fescue like butta
I have a 1025r a 2017 model I love it I absolutely love it but after using it on many different projects I really wished at the time that they had the 2038r like they do now I probably would have went with it I do plan on upgrading at some point when I feel it's worth the extra expense but for now I'm Still Loving my 1025r and I don't know what I would do without it
Yep. Fully understand your comment. It IS possible to appreciate the 1025r, yet see value in the 2038r
enjoyed the video looking to tractor and this help me to pick the one that work for me ,thank you!
Thanks for the comparison
I just got a gen 1 2025R that I traded my 1025r in on and the 2025 feels like a much bigger tractor when driving it I am going to miss a little movement on my 1025r
3R and 4 series reviews coming soon? 😁 Of course that might make me regret getting the 3e so maybe not...lol 3e is the "biggest" tractor with the shortest wheelbase I could find, I still struggle cramming it in the garage occasionally😂
It depends upon what you need and how much you are able to pay. I love my 3e as a loader, very powerful
At 4:40 Cat says, "It looks like I could curl up in there and help Tim with his work. He could pet me while he works. :-)
I would have to go with 2038r for pto hp for heavy mowing. The 2 series frame is just a bit too big . Now if there was ever such a model as a 1 series 1032r or 1038r, it would be near on perfect for my application as!
Love my 2038R
Great video, thanks for making these!
With loader and backhoe attached.
Congrat's nice demo ' ' ' wishin ya many years of use . . .
Hi Tim,
Do you find the key protrudes too much on the 2038R? Keep up the great videos!
Yes.
when you were reviewing the 2038 there was a sunscreen in the background. I like that one--could you tell me where to get one for MY 1025R. many thanks
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@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks Tim.
Tim did you ever think the 2025r might be just big enough? Big fan I've enjoyed the videos so much 🌼
So wich one should I buy ?
Are the engine hoods on the tractors made out of the same plastic that the lawn mower hoods are made of?
Great video! Thanks. I'm newer to all this. Wondered about the handle attached to the loader frame on the step side. Where do I look for something like that? I don't like how the side spot is positioned on that side because I'm afraid of tearing it off if I have to grab something fast if I slip or need to break my fall.
BoltOnHooks.com use code TTWT for a 5% discount.
Great Video!!!!
Will rear wheel wheel spacers on a 2038r obstruct the 60d mower deck?
Not sure .
Needs more ground clearance on the 2038
thumbs up for the cats :)
I would find that I would get a 1025r in more places than I would 2038r.
When it comes to dem Deeres, GO BIGGER OR GO HOME... ! Hell, I mow my 1/4 acre suburban residential lot with my 20 HP John Deere 420....!
Hey Tim 🇺🇸🚜 🚜
For me the bottom line is the question; can the 1025r clear brush, roots and all. ?? Even if i have to use the backhoe some of the time
Our videos should help to answer this question for you. Over the years, we have shown the extreme usages of the 1025r.
man if i could get a 2038r with a loader and brush hog, for the same price as a 1025r TLB i might jump....but i do want that backhoe!!!
“I bought too big of a tractor” is like saying “I built too big of a pole barn.” Great video, thank you for making these videos.
Many thanks for the shout out Tim, I logged in to more notifications than I've ever had. I think I said the "end user" in my video, I honestly think they're all really great tractors, just depends on what each individual needs. Until watching you video I guess I didn't realize the JD's thought process was for the glove box to be a toolbox LOL
I actually cary fencing pliers, 2 large adjustable wrenches, screw driver, extra pins and my gloves in that box.
Seems similar to the box/compartment on the 3e series, I keep 2 chains an shear pins in mine...and that's packed pull😁
Not a bad idea to have an emergency sandwich in there as well. You just never know these days...
Pretty sure Pat knows a guy or 2 who can hook you up with a sandwich
Watched your vid last year before Tim posted this one, and it's how I made up my mind on the 2038 over the 1025. New land and tractor owner, developing 32 acres of completely raw hills and trees. TLB for $32k vs $20k was a steep difference. Worked hard this fall, and now have pole barn, 1000ft of road, and 1/2 acre cleared, graded, and graveled off-grid (solar and well) trailer campsite. Phase 2 will be building a home and 3 will be farming. Think maybe it's paying for itself?
Stay away from the green it's the same as Harley Davidson $$$$$$ and they both break down at the most inopportune TIME!!
Whatever.
A lot of people don't have little kids around to back over. The ability to mow in reverse is important to them.
The RIO is dangerous when mowing on a hill. I hate it.
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The video shows the steps involved in disabling it, here is the steps...
1. Turn key on but dont start.
2. With your right middle finger, press AND HOLD DOWN the display mode button. (The button in the top middle, that has little windshield wiper symbols on it). So with this button HELD DOWN, the password you will need to enter with the turn signals is RLLRLR.
3. The screen now should say "ECU". Press the right turn signal 3x to see "ICC".
4. Select ICC by pressing the display mode button.
5. Right arrow (turn signal) to 014.
014 will say 01, if RIO is enabled.
6. Switch to edit mode by pressing the hazard button on and off within 2 seconds.
7.The right arrow changes the number, the left arrow switches to the other number, so press the left arrow to move the cursor to the 1.
8. Press the right arrow until it says 0.
Now both numbers should say 00.
9. Press and hold the display mode switch 3 seconds to exit.
10. For the change to take effect, Shut the key off and wait a few seconds, then start.
Special note: If you have error codes displayed, momentarily press the display mode switch to acknowledge the error.
The 1025R is incredible for it’s versatility and for the home owner with, say 2,4,10 acres or maybe more it can be an all around machine, but there will be a time when a larger tractor is necessary it’s no more complicated than that.
I’ve said before the JD has made the “gentlemen’s tractor” you’ve shown over and over the ability of the 1025R it’s incredible what it can accomplish for it’s size and power rating., but, again, sometimes bigger is better.
Always good to see videos like this. At the very least we are well informed when it would come time to make a decision on buying a tractor. You do a great job doing these comparisons Tim.
Great video. I didn't know a few of the details you've talked about. I've been contemplating purchasing either a 20r or 10r for my self and inlays to take care of their property. While I like the maneuverability of the 10r the things you shared in this video made me contemplate getting a 2038r. Thank you!
Great comparison video Tim, love having my morning coffee and watching your video :-)
Great video Tim. I myself had the dilemma of a 1025r vs a 2025r. I found the 2025r was just a glorified 1025r and not worth the extra money.
Awesome video!!! Thank you so much for the insight. This has been extremely helpful in my decision to purchase a 2038R.
As I have said before, I like your reviews. you bring up pros and cons that many salesman do not even know. Thank you, Great Video!
back when i was looking last year and i spent over a year deciding it came down to lift on FEL I wanted to support 5acres and my woodworking with pallets of lumber. For everything else i liked the 1025 (especially cost). I even considered just going lighter on wood as in smaller stacks. But with getting older & since i'm plopping down a huge amount of $$ anyway get what I wanted. One thing to consider as well is amortization over time. Sorry MBA coming out in me. I did a side by side comparison, and found that the incremental amount extra to jump to the 2038r was not that significant(at least in my view). Having used it now for 8 months, glad i did make the jump. However one area while not significant is if you use the belly mower or even pull behind mower, the impact on the yard after a rain is visible. Since I did do remguard in the tires and just with weight of the machine, on occasion i left marks in the yard. Now i know that and avoid by waiting more but it is something that the 1025 would be better. I just lifted a big pallet of lumber up on to a deck with 16' lumber and it did not grunt. I'm sure i could not have done that with the 1025. Thanks for the advise last year. BTW, my dealer when we were talking indicated the few 2025's he sells usually get brought back and traded in on 2032's or 38r's. He had two used on the lot when i ordered mine. Not bashing them, but he indicated that was just the case. Cheers and thanks again for the advice it did work out for me.
Since the 1025r has smaller tires than the 2038r, I’m not sure that it would be any ‘lighter’ on your yard. The extra weight of the 2038r is distributed over a larger surface area. Make sense?
@@TractorTimewithTim I see a video in there to prove your hypothesis ;)
I would like that as well Tim!!! I feel that would be a great video. I myself have the same thoughts. Taller tires more ground surface less weight. But I'm not sure if data will reflect this enough to change the offset in the weight of the 2 machines. 2400lbs on 2038r/ 1400lbs on 1025r. Tractor data numbers Tim!!! Just was looking at things.
I love the information you put out. I have a smallish yard surrounded by woods and overgrown fields. When my cub cadet has made its last pass/project in my yard, we will be getting a Johnny.
Is there a more informative compact/subcompact tractor source anywhere else on the net? I think not!
Great information as always and I personally believe you are as unbiased as a person can be when it comes to your experience and opinions.
Thanks Tim! I'm looking to buy a compact tractor right now. I have some older "farm" tractors that are not equipped like I need and are too big for what I want to do. I have a loader on a 1954 JD 60 but with no power steering and a hand clutch it's very hard to do much with it. I am very glad to see the 1025 and the 2038 side by side. it's hard to get a size comparison from a picture on line. Great video and very helpful. Thanks' again.
Tim, I have a new 2038R with just 11 hours on it. I researched tractors for over 2-years. I looked closely at the Deere series 1, 2, & 3 for my 10-acre lot. Almost purchased the 2025, but the specs told a story of slightly diminished output as compared to the 1025R. In other words, not enough power. The online reviews of the 2038 are excellent, plus no one ever complains of too much power. I would add that one should consider adding rear wheel extensions, which contributes greatly to the stability/safety of the tractor. I also had the rear tires filled with RimGuard (beet juice), which adds about 500 lbs to the rear. Attachments from Artillian, Heavy Hitch, Mudds Customs, and Deere are quality items.
All good points Tim. I bought a 1025R in order to access gated backyards for clean-up jobs and other tasks. The maneuverability of the 1 series is incredible.
BTW, one of the cool things about buying my tractor is that I have become good friend with my dealer. He drives right by my place on his way home. He stops by for a beer every once in a while and I get the skinny on John Deere machines. Also, I have a John Deere history book that I would like to send you guys. How do I do it?
can i buy this book somewhere ? would be very intresting
Before I purchased the Deere, I was looking at Kubota, Bobcat (their new sub-compact tractor line, LS and New Holland. Bobcat and Deere were the only ones who came to my property with their tractors...Deere was the only one who took their tractor off the ramp, drove down the hill in my backyard to my land and drove back out. So yeah. Easy Sell.
brett katz :were planing on perchuse 6 or 7 kubota loader tractors when we trade the 2 deeres and 3 newhollands because deere and newhollands here rediclas here and poor service wich we end up gave up dealing with deere and newholland
Michael Mac Tavish The Service in my area (Northern Virginia) has a good reputation. Not saying Kubota or New Holland do not. Deere was the only one who tested their tractor on my decline. There are so many dealers for Deere. I’m sure there are some horrible one last out there.
You know you sold me on the 1025r and I upgraded to the 2038r. I love the Tractor hated the service went to a 60 horse orange tractor with a cab. Guess which one I still till with and bushhog small areas? The 2038r of course lol. I remember a certain you tube guy telling me to get the three series but I am glad I didn’t listen. I pull a six foot tiller with ease and a five foot mx5 and destroy anything that gets in my way. I am glad to see you like the 2038 r. Thanks for all your help those few years ago to get me started.
I had a 2025r it didn't lift more then the 2014 1025r I had I would go with the 2032r or 2038r if I would be buying again
Great comparison Tim & Christie.
2038 is the only other tractor I would love to own. The maneuverability around my yard is the only thing that prevents me. It would however be fantastic for plowing my 1/4 mile driveway.
2025r makes sense only in gen 1 version.
Can you please do a comparison on the Mahindra 1526 and the 2038 r I have a 1526 and everyone talks trash bout them but there really good tractors. Don’t knock em till you try them! Please
I believe the 2038 requires emission controls so the big price difference, the engine also is turbo charged.
Excellent video as always. They are both great tractors. Love my 1025r!! Like you said maneuverability👊
Tim, personally I think you were a bit to fearful of offending someone in your decision on a tractor out of the models Deere has available.
If there were not a market for the variety of tractors with different ‘features’ or capabilities or whatever you want to label it, would Deere build so many?
Bottom line is you compared 2 models you have experience with. You in that comparison provided some insights into things to consider as others are shopping. Again it is kinda of like buying a car/truck-determine as well as you can what you need to do with that purchase and then reach your decision!
Too elaborate around the car theme, if your primary need is to haul around a family of 6, you would not look at a subcompact car that gets 50 mpg on the highway, but only comfortable seats 4!
Same applies to different models of tractors! You determine your needs and then best try to match the model to meet those needs. Of course cost factors into it, and as you pointed out, the subcompact 1 series in all aspects cost less, and they do perform at levels most that have not used them do not believe, but there are limits! Some things you may not be able to do, while others may be doable but done in smaller short term sizes and with more time involved.
Tim, regarding the 1025 and 2025 and 2038, Do they each come with a cat or is that an aftermarket item we need to get from Artillian? :-)
😂 Nope... You have to train your own barn cats! 😂
Thanks for this video Tim. Maybe now I can find a good deal on a used 1025r because people upgrade...
Used is about the only way to get a 1025r now...for the next few months! Supplies are GONE.
Great job Tim. I had a 1025r for two years (probably due to your early videos) and upgraded to the 2038r while you were still shopping for a larger tractor, and in the end you came to the same conclusion as me! All the marketing departments and spec sheets create confusion, but seat time is a fact Jack. After running both a 1025r and a 2038r for the same applications for two years each, the 2038r just shines brighter in refinement, usability and capability over the 1025r. Hard to describe until you run one, and it should for the cost and updated design. I’m really curious to see what JD does to the 3r to separate that machine further from the 2r in future redesign.
Is your 1025r for sale or did you trade it in?
Great videos Tim.
I bought mine in 2017 and love it. I originally wanted a 2032r, but the Dealer didn't have any in stock and made me a great deal on the 2038r.
Thanks again for all the information you and your family provide for us DIYers
God Bless
oh how i wished when i bought my 2520 in 06, that it would of had all them ideas on it back then. still happy with it, but boy i would be happier now-ha!! great video oh. hey u working out some lately? looking like ur getting some better guns on ya! OR u got a tighter shirt in that short sleeved shirt u was wearing-hehe
Tim; I have a 5085 M that I use in my poultry operation and my dad purchased a 5075E to use on the farm for the purpose of a three point hitch water furrower implement. The M series (like the R series in the compacts) are far more desirable, with a multitude of refinements not offered in the E (economy) series. I joked with my dad that his E series was a Mahindra painted green. Nice tractors, just cheaply made.
Harvey, one thing I notice is that E VS. R is much different at the different series. 1, for example is very minor. 3 is a huge increase in capability/capacity. 5 is the one you accurately describe. One needs to study closely since there is very little consistency in what E vs. M vs. R really is.
It would be nice if Deere would offer a cab with air on the 2038R. Several competitors do on this size of tractor. Maybe in the future it will be an option. Thanks for all your great videos!
Love the kitty co-star! 🐱😁😁
I gotta throw some love to the 2025r, I love mine, got the 260b backhoe with it and use it more than I ever thought I would. Ive done box blade work with it, dug post holes with an auger, my wife even uses it for her garden work and it has impressed me every time..Tried the 1025r also but it just felt to small. No regrets with the 2025r. It will never do the work of the big boys but it was never meant to either. Small size and no stupid emissions equipment are other great perks of the 2025r. Thanks TTWT for introducing me to these great little tractors.
Brake pedal usage is HIGH here when back dragging Snow on a icy driveway and bucket edge is down and tires are up for maximum scraping the driveway. IF the drive is sloped or crowned you MUST use the brakes to steer the tractor or you will end up off the side and maybe in a ditch.
Another great comparison video. Your channel should be required viewing for anyone looking to purchase a JD. It's been fun watching your channel grow and I've learned a ton along the way.
Thanks Gary!
Agree on the 2025R - It's essentially a larger frame 1025R & for some that must be an advantage. The 2032R & 2038R as far as I can tell are almost identical exc. the HP. Is is worth the cost difference to get the higher HP?
I visited the dealer for the first time last week and at least got to sit on & drive a 1025R (BTW, salesman mentioned "Tractor Time w/Tim") - Felt very comfortable on it and I'd never been on a subcompact. They didn't have a 2032 or 2038 - He said deliveries are running behind & lead times are stretching out pretty far right now but they have them due in so I'll be going back.
Enjoyed this video Tim
Tim in car world (i sell cars) we call it. NVH. noise vibration harshness. Sounds like the 2038r is better
That mower deck electronic lift feature is a great one.. About time JD offered two remotes on the back besides the 'power behind' feature.. IMHO, that's relatively worthless - and I've added enough items to actually make that a second remote... ('15 3039R). Good video, Tim...
I have watched a number of video's from you and maybe I missed it, BUT I have not seen anything about how the machines handle hills. Your land seems to be very flat - not every farm is like that. Could you do a video on stability on this, various options such a weights to make the tractor more stable, your opinion of what might be the steepest grade suitable for your tractors. Just a thought
Wow, what a great objective comparison. Certainly appreciate your willingness to share your opinions and thoughts. I have a Massey Ferguson 1740M that is quite similar to the 2038R. My favorite features are auto throttle and cruise control. Cruise control comes in handy when using the rotary mower in larger fields.
I liked this video a lot. I like the 2038R better after watching this video. Maneuverability is important sometimes, but most people can find away to work around that unless you are in a very small yard.
I looked at a used 2032,sadly it had been abused,low hours but hard hours.So I decided to not buy it. Found another one ,but feel like there asking to much for it 1150 hr. 2014 model? Asking 20G! Offered 15-16-17-18 declined. Is it worth it? One owner,good service record . Then there is a new 2038r with fel for like little over 20G!! Setting on same lot!! I enjoy your video's!
I would recommend not buying the prior generation 2032. Fine tractor, but not comfortable…it is made by Yanmar.
the picture that came up with the gray mower, i have the 16hp version of it.