Ya, the timing on this video turned out exceptional. We were at peak colors, or maybe just slightly past. And the temps were indicative of an Indian summer. Made for a beautiful video! Thanks for the comment!
I got my Ocelot Pro in September '22 and I LOVE it! I opted for the Army Green and I'm glad I did. It looks cool and distinguishes it from other ebikes. Plus, a lot of accessories such as the new cushier seat and panniers have green accents available, so it looks really put-together. You did a great job in these two videos explaining everything. My Ocelot didn't have any issues when I got it. One thing nobody ever mentions is how thick and rigid the down frame is. It is significantly thicker than any other step through I've seen. Though it adds some to the weight, I think the thicker frame will prevent any future weakening. Magicycle did a wonderful job in engineering the Ocelot.
I appreciate the advice. But being raised in the Pacific Northwest I have never really got into the snow sports much. I have a good set of boots, that works for me. And the idea of riding on snow and ice doesn’t appeal to me in the slightest… 😉
@@TinkeringTurtle 😁 I was referring to snowshoes for your feet. I have seem those videos where they put studded tires on dirt bikes and ride on frozen lakes & in snow. That's not for me! Walking I can do and I've found snowshoeing to be quite fun. The newer lightweight styles of snowshoes are far easier to use than the kinds that were around when we were kids.
I can confirm that the newest version of the Ocelot Pro as of 4/18/23 does some with a firmware upgrade that allows you turn on "cruise control". It is off by default and is under the menu as 'Set Pace', again this is set to off from the factory. Also they have cut the rear fender where the chain in position of 1 of the gears would possibly rub.
Did yours also suffer from chain rub on the wheel guard? I would hope that’s been addressed by now. $2000 is a lot and frankly shouldn’t have any of these issues heading out of production.
@@petethehawk5186 I've not had a chain rub issue but customer service has been very good with a warped front disc rotor and the replacement was sent very quickly.
Hey, thanks for the videos, I'm trying to decide which e-bike will best suit me at 63 and 5'5". My husband just purchased a RadRover 6 Plus High-Step. Now I'm anxious to find a bike to go riding with him. I'm pretty sure I want a 20" x 4 fat tire step thru so this one is looking pretty good.
Your welcome! The Ocelot is a great choice for your size. It has a LOT of power, all that you would ever need. And with the 20ah battery it has plenty of range. Easy got get on and off too.
@@TinkeringTurtle The other one I like is the Himiway Big Dog. So many choices. Being from Canada the prices are much higher so I'll have to keep saving.
I just found your Channel today and really like your content. Im looking forward to watching and learning more from you. If you could give me some of your thoughts on what im thinking Im 5'7" now 370 but am and have been losing. Im wanting to get the step thru 750 watt bike (not the ocelot pro). The pro is out of my price range. I need to add exercise but my knees just won't let me. I'm hoping with the 750w and excellent torque of this bike. It could still pull me as I get to and below the 350 lb Max load. Without breaking the bike. I also realize that my range will not be as good. Am I crazy for thinking this?
I would definitely push you towards a bike with a similar configuration to the ocelot. It is easy on and off for those with bum knees. I think Magicycle offers a regular ocelot, but without some of the accessories. It would be cheaper… Here is a link to that listing: shrsl.com/46hfi Another bike that I think would work well for you is the Himiway big dog. it has a 400lbs payload and more importantly doesn’t have a spoked wheel. So it is stronger. But the price is still around $2000. himiwaybike.com/products/electric-cargo-bike?sca_ref=2464035.XUqPzJ9uFm
Like you mentioned, I added the adjustable stem. My concern is because I raised the bars about 3”. Do you think I can still and the front rack., as there is not a lot of front brake cable slack? Thanks
There is no guarantee. If you get the front rack, and the cables aren’t long enough you would need to go thru the process of extending the cables and brake lines. Not always easy, you may want to get a local bike shop to help with that. you can get cable/wire extensions on Amazon. But hydraulic or cable brake lines are a little trickier.
Tim, I enjoy your channel and appreciate your expertise/knowledge on ebikes. I have a question I hope youn can help me with. About a month ago my wife and I received our ocelot pro's from magicycle. One worked perfectly, the other, not so much. on the first, you can set the cruise control at what ever speed you like, then use peddle assist to whatever degree you choose. Works great. On the other, you can also set cruise control at whatever speed you like (5mph, 10, mph, whatever), but as soon as you attempt to peddle assist, the bike just accelerates like crazy. Peddle assist is not possible at all, irrespective of assist level or gear used. I compared settings on both bikes, they are exactly the same in every respect, but the bikes react differently, as dsescribed above. Do you have any idea how this can be overcome/corrected?
On my Ocelot the cruise control only works when not pedaling. Once I pedal the cruise kicks off, sort of like a car with cruise. I am not certain why your bikes would not behave the same. Unless there is a “hidden” setting only Magicycle has access to.
@@TinkeringTurtle On the bike in question, the cruise does kick off when I start pedaling, but then begins rapid acceleration that if I did not apply the brakes, it would continue to maximum speed. I can't see how maximum distance could be achieved unless you could assist by pedaling. The other bike works wonderfully to achieve great distance, ie, I set cruise at say, 15 mph, then pedal assist in 7th gear, using very low watts as indicated on the monitor. I have logged over 70 miles doing that. On the bike in question, not being able to assist (or get any workout at all), the battery is depleted much quicker, and the distance possible is much, much reduced. Does your bike continue to accelerate when you start pedaling?
Had a problem with my Ocelot Pro, working with Magicycle to fix it. We’ve changed the display, the controller, the harness, the cadence sensor. Bike now runs in throttle and pas mode but it runs at full speed regardless of pas settings. Even runs at pas0. Still displays code 30 and also doesn’t update distance or anything related to it. I’m wondering if the controller they sent me was faulty? Appreciate your thoughts! Been down for about 6 weeks. Sure would like to get back out and ride again! Any help appreciated! Thanks
As you probably know, error code 30 indicates a communication problem between the screen and controller. You have replaced all the components (display, controller and harness) that would be connected with that issue. I’m not certain what else you could do. Maybe pull the connectors apart and see if any of the pins are bent. But I would guess that isn’t the issue. Was the controller they sent you new? This definitely feels like a bad controller or possibly display… sry I couldn’t really help.
Hoping to find what kind of range people are getting with a full charge and "typical" peddling. We have a couple of Rads and 2 Bagibikes. My wife and I get about 32-35 miles before battery runs out.
Sorry Curt, I really didn’t get a chance to do a proper range test before the weather turned. I’m not certain I will get an opportunity to test that until spring… Wish I could help!
@Curt pederson I will say I put on 30 miles and had about 40% battery left on the first charge. I would expect that to improve as the internal cells balanced out. But without testing it for a few weeks I simply can’t give you a definitive answer.
Thanks. I appreciate the info! We get close to 6 months of snow here in Northern Wisconsin. That's why we bought the folding Bagis....they sit upright in the back of our Sienna Hybrid Van (road trips to the warmer states this winter)!
I find that if you ride faster than, say, 18mph or so then you will likely experience ghost pedaling. But at lower speeds it is not as much of an issue. Either way you can, pretty easily, swap out front cranks to get a better pedaling experience at higher speeds.
The Ocelot Pro has a lot of programmability. It comes with the Pedal Assist set at 5 speeds and PAS 1 is set from the factory at 50% and the remaining 4 are incremental from there up to 100% in PAS 5. You can program up to 7 PAS levels and the percentages of each level. I set my PAS 1 to 25% and 40% on PAS 2, incrementally up to 100% in PAS 5. The wheel size is programmed for a 22" wheel, and I was able to change that to 24 inches, which also helps. Ideally, for accuracy, they should have a setting for a 23" wheel, but it doesn't give that option. These things all help to minimize the Ghost pedaling and if you wanted to eliminate almost, if not all of it, you could use all 7 PAS levels. What little Ghost pedaling I've experienced has been minimal and not a real concern for me. I'm close to Tim's size and weight and I've put about 300 miles on mine. I've had other ebikes and before buying the Ocelot Pro I did a lot of research before settling on the Magicycle Ocelot. The company has excellent, responsive customer service and a very good reputation. I LOVE my Ocelot and highly recommend it to everyone.
Thanks Tim, I’m interested in this bike for my wife for Christmas . My cruiser is just to big. Got any idea if they will go on sale this holiday season??
Sorry David, I really don’t have any insight into sales at Magicycle. The only Black Friday sale I have seen advertised so far is a free battery bag with a purchase of the bike.
You might want to checkout the Lectric Bike 3.0 if you want great deals at $1000. To me the bikes are similar. Now that said, if detail is important, you'll have to fork out the extra $900 for this Ocelet Pro. The difference is in the torque, battery, brakes and handlebar setup. But they are not huge differences. But that said, you will notice the difference, so if you have the money, I'd get the Ocelot. If you're on a budget, you might want to check out the Lectric Biike 3.0 at $1000. It offers a bigger bang for the buck in my opinion.
David - I'm in the same boat. Sold my wifes step thru and now selling my Cruiser. Just too big for our comfort & safety. TODAY Magi is having an awesome deal. Check it out !
@@MrGlobaldave1 we ordered 2 ocelot bikes and got a free battery. Only one bike has come so far. Would like to sell my cruiser. Too big for me to swing my leg over. Wish I came out in the spring. It's 28 degrees with snow on the roads. Still have been going on short rides to check it out.
Jennifer - Yup - same problem my wife had with her White "step over". Had to sell it. My cruiser is now for sale on Phx Craigslist. Great bike (only 15 miles) We just lost the Ebike frenzy - Ocelots a bit pricey in my opinion. (Sorry - not really seeing the need for an extra battery) Have fun with yours!!
Good question! I found the info in their help center. Magicycle uses a Shengyi 750 W motor with 86N.m of Torque. And for the battery I found this in their “brand story”: “Energy Efficient and Eco-Friendly: We design our batteries in house. Our patented designs mean we provide high quality batteries to power you throughout your day with minimal impact to the environment.” I hope this helps!
@@TinkeringTurtle thanks never heard of that brand motor before the two bikes I got bafang and Samsung bat been thinking about the steptru pro thanks for the info
@patkuykendall6917 I am not certain which cells they use in their battery packs. I imagine if you look around their website you could probably find that. You could also drop them an email, I am sure they could let you know what they use.
It looks like, for the 15ah batteries, they use: 52V, 15AH Battery Lishen 18650 cell and for the 20ah batteries they use: 52V, 20AH Battery LG 21700 cell
What do you mean by “promote”. I think they are a very good brand. But unfortunately my emails to the marketing team have gone unanswered for quite a while now. The spirit is willing, but the company seems to have left me behind. My wife and I love our Himiway bikes. We have almost 4000 miles on each of them in the last two years…no major issues!
The autumn colors are just a great backdrop for your riding videos. Thanks for producing the video. Informative, as always.
Ya, the timing on this video turned out exceptional. We were at peak colors, or maybe just slightly past. And the temps were indicative of an Indian summer. Made for a beautiful video!
Thanks for the comment!
I got my Ocelot Pro in September '22 and I LOVE it! I opted for the Army Green and I'm glad I did. It looks cool and distinguishes it from other ebikes. Plus, a lot of accessories such as the new cushier seat and panniers have green accents available, so it looks really put-together.
You did a great job in these two videos explaining everything. My Ocelot didn't have any issues when I got it. One thing nobody ever mentions is how thick and rigid the down frame is. It is significantly thicker than any other step through I've seen. Though it adds some to the weight, I think the thicker frame will prevent any future weakening. Magicycle did a wonderful job in engineering the Ocelot.
Nice summary, the Ocelot is definitely a nice bike!
Tim you are a lucky man to have such a nice bike path at the end of your driveway! Your videos show you & your wife make great use of that resource.
Thank you!
Holland Michigan has a fantastic network of bike paths. And we, weather permitting, take good advantage of it spring, summer and fall!
@@TinkeringTurtle If you haven't tried them, consider modern snowshoes for your winter season. ❄❄
I appreciate the advice. But being raised in the Pacific Northwest I have never really got into the snow sports much. I have a good set of boots, that works for me.
And the idea of riding on snow and ice doesn’t appeal to me in the slightest… 😉
@@TinkeringTurtle 😁 I was referring to snowshoes for your feet. I have seem those videos where they put studded tires on dirt bikes and ride on frozen lakes & in snow. That's not for me! Walking I can do and I've found snowshoeing to be quite fun. The newer lightweight styles of snowshoes are far easier to use than the kinds that were around when we were kids.
Thank you for the multiple great videos! I'm a brand new rider and it's very helpful.
Truly my pleasure!
I can confirm that the newest version of the Ocelot Pro as of 4/18/23 does some with a firmware upgrade that allows you turn on "cruise control". It is off by default and is under the menu as 'Set Pace', again this is set to off from the factory. Also they have cut the rear fender where the chain in position of 1 of the gears would possibly rub.
Great info!
Thank you.
Did yours also suffer from chain rub on the wheel guard? I would hope that’s been addressed by now. $2000 is a lot and frankly shouldn’t have any of these issues heading out of production.
@@petethehawk5186 I've not had a chain rub issue but customer service has been very good with a warped front disc rotor and the replacement was sent very quickly.
Nice honest review, I do find it funny though when they say only 6'2" just get a larger seat post...
And probably a taller handle bar stem…but I suspect they mean “as configured”.
Hey, thanks for the videos, I'm trying to decide which e-bike will best suit me at 63 and 5'5". My husband just purchased a RadRover 6 Plus High-Step. Now I'm anxious to find a bike to go riding with him. I'm pretty sure I want a 20" x 4 fat tire step thru so this one is looking pretty good.
Your welcome!
The Ocelot is a great choice for your size. It has a LOT of power, all that you would ever need. And with the 20ah battery it has plenty of range. Easy got get on and off too.
@@TinkeringTurtle The other one I like is the Himiway Big Dog. So many choices. Being from Canada the prices are much higher so I'll have to keep saving.
I just found your Channel today and really like your content. Im looking forward to watching and learning more from you.
If you could give me some of your thoughts on what im thinking
Im 5'7" now 370 but am and have been losing. Im wanting to get the step thru 750 watt bike (not the ocelot pro). The pro is out of my price range. I need to add exercise but my knees just won't let me.
I'm hoping with the 750w and excellent torque of this bike. It could still pull me as I get to and below the 350 lb Max load. Without breaking the bike. I also realize that my range will not be as good. Am I crazy for thinking this?
I would definitely push you towards a bike with a similar configuration to the ocelot. It is easy on and off for those with bum knees.
I think Magicycle offers a regular ocelot, but without some of the accessories. It would be cheaper…
Here is a link to that listing:
shrsl.com/46hfi
Another bike that I think would work well for you is the Himiway big dog. it has a 400lbs payload and more importantly doesn’t have a spoked wheel. So it is stronger. But the price is still around $2000.
himiwaybike.com/products/electric-cargo-bike?sca_ref=2464035.XUqPzJ9uFm
Like you mentioned, I added the adjustable stem. My concern is because I raised the bars about 3”. Do you think I can still and the front rack., as there is not a lot of front brake cable slack? Thanks
There is no guarantee. If you get the front rack, and the cables aren’t long enough you would need to go thru the process of extending the cables and brake lines. Not always easy, you may want to get a local bike shop to help with that. you can get cable/wire extensions on Amazon. But hydraulic or cable brake lines are a little trickier.
Tim, I enjoy your channel and appreciate your expertise/knowledge on ebikes. I have a question I hope youn can help me with. About a month ago my wife and I received our ocelot pro's from magicycle. One worked perfectly, the other, not so much. on the first, you can set the cruise control at what ever speed you like, then use peddle assist to whatever degree you choose. Works great. On the other, you can also set cruise control at whatever speed you like (5mph, 10, mph, whatever), but as soon as you attempt to peddle assist, the bike just accelerates like crazy. Peddle assist is not possible at all, irrespective of assist level or gear used. I compared settings on both bikes, they are exactly the same in every respect, but the bikes react differently, as dsescribed above. Do you have any idea how this can be overcome/corrected?
On my Ocelot the cruise control only works when not pedaling. Once I pedal the cruise kicks off, sort of like a car with cruise.
I am not certain why your bikes would not behave the same. Unless there is a “hidden” setting only Magicycle has access to.
@@TinkeringTurtle On the bike in question, the cruise does kick off when I start pedaling, but then begins rapid acceleration that if I did not apply the brakes, it would continue to maximum speed. I can't see how maximum distance could be achieved unless you could assist by pedaling. The other bike works wonderfully to achieve great distance, ie, I set cruise at say, 15 mph, then pedal assist in 7th gear, using very low watts as indicated on the monitor. I have logged over 70 miles doing that. On the bike in question, not being able to assist (or get any workout at all), the battery is depleted much quicker, and the distance possible is much, much reduced. Does your bike continue to accelerate when you start pedaling?
No it doesn’t. When I start pedaling the bike accelerates normally based on my PAS settings.
Had a problem with my Ocelot Pro, working with Magicycle to fix it. We’ve changed the display, the controller, the harness, the cadence sensor. Bike now runs in throttle and pas mode but it runs at full speed regardless of pas settings. Even runs at pas0. Still displays code 30 and also doesn’t update distance or anything related to it. I’m wondering if the controller they sent me was faulty? Appreciate your thoughts! Been down for about 6 weeks. Sure would like to get back out and ride again! Any help appreciated! Thanks
As you probably know, error code 30 indicates a communication problem between the screen and controller. You have replaced all the components (display, controller and harness) that would be connected with that issue. I’m not certain what else you could do. Maybe pull the connectors apart and see if any of the pins are bent. But I would guess that isn’t the issue. Was the controller they sent you new?
This definitely feels like a bad controller or possibly display… sry I couldn’t really help.
Great video! Did you end up doing the thumb throttle conversion??
Not yet!
I have the thumb throttle here, but that will be in a future video.
awesome! thanks for the reply. looking forward to the video!
Hoping to find what kind of range people are getting with a full charge and "typical" peddling. We have a couple of Rads and 2 Bagibikes. My wife and I get about 32-35 miles before battery runs out.
Sorry Curt, I really didn’t get a chance to do a proper range test before the weather turned. I’m not certain I will get an opportunity to test that until spring… Wish I could help!
@Curt pederson I will say I put on 30 miles and had about 40% battery left on the first charge. I would expect that to improve as the internal cells balanced out. But without testing it for a few weeks I simply can’t give you a definitive answer.
Thanks. I appreciate the info! We get close to 6 months of snow here in Northern Wisconsin. That's why we bought the folding Bagis....they sit upright in the back of our Sienna Hybrid Van (road trips to the warmer states this winter)!
Have you experienced ghost pedaling? Looks like it will become your wife's ebike! 😁 Thank you for your videos!
I find that if you ride faster than, say, 18mph or so then you will likely experience ghost pedaling. But at lower speeds it is not as much of an issue.
Either way you can, pretty easily, swap out front cranks to get a better pedaling experience at higher speeds.
The Ocelot Pro has a lot of programmability. It comes with the Pedal Assist set at 5 speeds and PAS 1 is set from the factory at 50% and the remaining 4 are incremental from there up to 100% in PAS 5. You can program up to 7 PAS levels and the percentages of each level. I set my PAS 1 to 25% and 40% on PAS 2, incrementally up to 100% in PAS 5. The wheel size is programmed for a 22" wheel, and I was able to change that to 24 inches, which also helps. Ideally, for accuracy, they should have a setting for a 23" wheel, but it doesn't give that option. These things all help to minimize the Ghost pedaling and if you wanted to eliminate almost, if not all of it, you could use all 7 PAS levels. What little Ghost pedaling I've experienced has been minimal and not a real concern for me.
I'm close to Tim's size and weight and I've put about 300 miles on mine. I've had other ebikes and before buying the Ocelot Pro I did a lot of research before settling on the Magicycle Ocelot. The company has excellent, responsive customer service and a very good reputation. I LOVE my Ocelot and highly recommend it to everyone.
Thanks
Your very welcome!
Does it feel like you are peddling air when you go fast on this?
Yes, anything over 15 - 18 mph you tend to ghost pedal. Pretty normal for most bikes.
Thanks Tim, I’m interested in this bike for my wife for Christmas . My cruiser is just to big. Got any idea if they will go on sale this holiday season??
Sorry David, I really don’t have any insight into sales at Magicycle. The only Black Friday sale I have seen advertised so far is a free battery bag with a purchase of the bike.
You might want to checkout the Lectric Bike 3.0 if you want great deals at $1000. To me the bikes are similar. Now that said, if detail is important, you'll have to fork out the extra $900 for this Ocelet Pro. The difference is in the torque, battery, brakes and handlebar setup. But they are not huge differences. But that said, you will notice the difference, so if you have the money, I'd get the Ocelot. If you're on a budget, you might want to check out the Lectric Biike 3.0 at $1000. It offers a bigger bang for the buck in my opinion.
David - I'm in the same boat. Sold my wifes step thru and now selling my Cruiser. Just too big for our comfort & safety. TODAY Magi is having an awesome deal. Check it out !
@@MrGlobaldave1 we ordered 2 ocelot bikes and got a free battery. Only one bike has come so far. Would like to sell my cruiser. Too big for me to swing my leg over. Wish I came out in the spring. It's 28 degrees with snow on the roads. Still have been going on short rides to check it out.
Jennifer - Yup - same problem my wife had with her White "step over". Had to sell it. My cruiser is now for sale on Phx Craigslist. Great bike (only 15 miles) We just lost the Ebike frenzy - Ocelots a bit pricey in my opinion. (Sorry - not really seeing the need for an extra battery) Have fun with yours!!
Was watching ur video and wondering who makes their battery and their hub motor on the magic pro cruiser thanks as always a good viedo
Good question! I found the info in their help center.
Magicycle uses a Shengyi 750 W motor with 86N.m of Torque. And for the battery I found this in their “brand story”:
“Energy Efficient and Eco-Friendly: We design our batteries in house. Our patented designs mean we provide high quality batteries to power you throughout your day with minimal impact to the environment.”
I hope this helps!
@@TinkeringTurtle thanks never heard of that brand motor before the two bikes I got bafang and Samsung bat been thinking about the steptru pro thanks for the info
@patkuykendall6917
I am not certain which cells they use in their battery packs. I imagine if you look around their website you could probably find that. You could also drop them an email, I am sure they could let you know what they use.
It looks like, for the 15ah batteries, they use:
52V, 15AH Battery Lishen 18650 cell
and for the 20ah batteries they use:
52V, 20AH Battery LG 21700 cell
Thanks for the review. Might want to check your link. When I click it I get an error: "404 PAGE NOT FOUND"
Thank you for the update!
I have created a new affiliates link and updated the description.
is this bike UL approved as some electric bikes are causing electrical fires. Check out new by laws in NY city
You would have to inquire with Magicycle.
So do you not promote Himiway any longer?
What do you mean by “promote”.
I think they are a very good brand. But unfortunately my emails to the marketing team have gone unanswered for quite a while now. The spirit is willing, but the company seems to have left me behind.
My wife and I love our Himiway bikes. We have almost 4000 miles on each of them in the last two years…no major issues!