2024 BMW R12nineT - First Ride Review!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2024
- I love a retro bike me and so when Bahnstormer asked if I wanted to be the first to ride thier demo R12nineT - BMW's revamped retro - I of course jumped at the chance! Here's my first ride review of this brand new bike for 2024......
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Aussie?
yes!
Wow thank you - and as I noted, I’m not in it for the money (Im very fortunate to have enough already and know that “enough is enough”)
Erm, speaking as someone who spent 8 years in journalism, I can tell you that no-one became a 'rich bastard' from it; that's reserved for the publishers like 'arry' from Harry's Garage.
I'm halfway there....my wife frequently calls me a bastard.
I always think of wind blast as a built in mechanism to keep your speed in check. A major plus for naked bikes.
Very true!
My thought was wind in the “face” (helmet) was the whole point of riding. It’s like a swimmer whining because they get too wet.
@@Accurize2 Isn’t that the most fantastic moment when you lift that visor and the air comes streaming in? Full credit goes to the open facers. (Although maybe not so popular with UK weather).
@@jimdoar2546 I’m with you. I prefer naked bikes. The older I get I also prefer less technology too, I’d make an allowance for ABS.
Another cracking review! I like this bike a lot, it’s very reminiscent of the old R80s and such, but with all the proper gear and a lot more ‘go’. Excellent work, as ever!
Great review and the looks are spot-on for me. The fit and finish looks excellent from what we can tell on the video. Tempting but it is a chunk of change... Cheers
Thanks for this video. I have been anxious to get a ride review of the R12nineT. Yes, to a longer ride.
I saw one of these in the flesh at the motorcycle exhibition last sunday in Copenhagen. Looks really good.
A few years back I stood between the Pure R9T and the Speed Twin. And I went with the R9T. More exciting engine, better handling and better brakes. Triumph has the better looks though.
But the new R12 looks better than the old one. But the old one looked more raw somehow.
Thank you mr Flyer!
Love the look of that, especially with the green paint work and the gold forks. Nice.
I have a '21 R9T Pure which seems really retro in comparison. I'm sure all the after marketers are on top of it as well. At 70 I still consider it as my Hooligan bike that frequently reaches "take off" speeds. What a hoot.!!! Twin clocks are also my choice, but I'm sure the TFT's are admired by younger generation of riders. 👍👍5🏍🙋♂️
Great machine. Styling is updated to the real retro look which I loved 41 yrs. back with my 83 R100RS which I did monster rides on all across and over North America. I own a 2023 R9T UGS which is a light feeling good handling motorcycle. Engines are much the same but the big difference lies underneath. Updated access to the airbox and the battery in the proper to me place of under the seat. Easy service and access. Exhaust ahs some things done which is subjective but I generally change mine front to rear. Seems to have a good suspension with spring updates for rider weight. All in all a very nice motorcycle. I would go for the quarter fairing or adapt a full RS to it. Would look great and be exceptionally functional. Good vid and review. Glad bikes like this are still made. RTW capable at a fairly good price.
Another stellar upload building your brand , keep them coming and thankyou ..Top Gear my arse ! .
Love the bloopers at the end Andy👍
Thanks for watching until the bitter end!
Such a great motorcycle. I really like the revised styling. Looks cleaner.
That screen is a very bold move and I applaud it. Looks fantastic.
Well it’s an option - comes with dials as standard….
Thank God@@TheMissendenFlyer
does it have a fuel guage on the TFT?
It looks stunning in that colour
What a pity. The R Nine T in my garage still makes me smile when I walk in. Definitely gone backwards in terms of looks.
Excellent review as always.
What a beautiful machine. My dream bike for sure!
Hi Andy, thanks for the early review on this one ! I'm very interested in this bike, especially the 719 option ally version. Even on video that brushed aluminium just looks amazing !
No problem 👍
I`m a big fan of this motor as i still have a 2012 TU GS 1200 . Its hard to find anything to critisize here I would add a screen maybe .Its just a very good all rounder which might be damning it with faint praise a bit but they can be hustled down a twisty mountain road as fast as a lot of sports bikes because of their great torque and really nice handling also with an akro fitted they do a very good impression of a Sopwith Camel .Nice review Andy .
Yes, longer term review please!
Right at the start of the video I thought, "Nice looking bike but it needs proper clocks," and then you mentioned it! Great minds think alike! 😄
I knew that TFT would spark debate!
It's a really nice bike, I can see why it was hard to find fault. I spec'd one up at just under £20k which was a surprise, I would have expected the Shift Cam motor or the new 1300 lump in there to be honest. Cost wise I would opt for the Z900rs and add a few extras having had two in the past ( now have a R1250 rsse). For me the only thing against is the cost but it is a really nice retro, naked bike. I wouldn't say no if one came along at the right price is a few years......great honest review
Great looking bike,nice classic looks but that price,na.
Great video as always.👍🏻
Yep long term test
They do customise well
Option for when I want to go smaller from the gs
Hey Andy, I'm glad my demo went back just as filthy as yours haha! Makes me feel a bit better! Handles like a dream this thing!
Hello young Katherine - good to hear from you! How did you rate it compared to the outgoing bike? What about the price and did you find a fuel guage! (.....I'll go watch your video now for the answers....)
Yes would like long term review on this bmw r12 9t
I had a 2016 RNineT Sport with the brushed tank with weld, seat hump and high level Akrapovic exhaust. Best bike I've ever owned. Would seriously look at this when I retire in a couple of years time!
Great vid. I would love to see more of this bike and maybe a test on the new r12 cruiser variant.
Noted!
Another great review and what a lovely looking BMW. That green tank is beautiful and personally, I like the small TFT dash. Would like a small screen out front to help with wind blast. All in all, yet another fine looking bike from Germany, though a little pricey with all the add-ons. I'll be keeping my r1200rs for now.
Great video as usual👍👍..I have a 2018 customised Rnine t..can't justify a change to this new one 🤔great bike
I always have a soft spot for modern classics. This is a beautiful specimen!
I totally agree!
This bike has really caught my eye especially with the cockpit fairing. This places it towards my favourite BMW of all time, the R90S, and wouldn’t take too much to replicate such a handsome machine.
Given my age and that of many riders who remember such a machine plus our (now) spending power, I reckon a move like that would be a runaway success and really put the wind up the other ‘retro’ manufacturers.
Absolutely love the bike,saw it at the Excel, had to say I prefered the R12 as for price I would quite happily pay it money no object it's lovely
In December, I traded my Speed Twin for a 2023 RnineT Scrambler in Manhattan metallic. I’m very happy with my decision. I find the riding position more comfortable on the BMW, and I like having cruise control and heated grips. I enjoyed the Speed Twin, but I’ve always been a BMW fanboy, and the RnineT solidified that for me. I’m sure the R12NineT will be a great seller for them. Thanks for the review Andy.
My pleasure!
I really like the style of the R12nineT. Beautiful retro bike, nice design. But yes, that price. In the Netherlands, the entry-level model costs €20,990 and I'm not sure if that includes handlebars and wheels 😂. Between BMW and me it will never be anything again.
Living in Norway,being an old Surrey lad I enjoy the scenery sometimes wishing you had a google map indicater showing where your riding. The perfect bike for the Norwegian toppography!
Lovely looking bike Andy. I for one would be interested in seeing further reviews idc. 👍
Lovely chaps over there, went to test ride the Urban G/S and fell in love with it
Don't forget to mention the beautiful brackets holding the front fender in place. That's the first thing I noticed when you came around the front.
Mudguard, sorry, fender, not too functional.
I like the more classic engine and transmission setup on this bike. Good to see this TMF and maybe worth checking out. We need a bike that BMW have kept the their cost cutters away from. Cheers.
Definitely a good looking bike, especially in that green. First impressions are often the best to have. When I first saw the TFT I thought it was far to small, for me especially though do think it sits well with the cockpit view, a bigger one would look ridiculous. So was very pleased you can keep the dual dials. So happy you managed to get the tongue twister right 😂😂
Yes, it took a few goes but think I have it now!!
This bike deserves a thorough TMF long term review
Great bikes :) I had the original and I do think this looks nicer more balanced and I do like the TFT upgraded screen and quick shifter is awesome.. nice to have adjustable suspension to.. would be better with the spoked wheels but they were a mission to keep clean.. had a Z900RS and for me the Rnine was much better.. great review as always. Pete
Looks awesome, love that colour
Looks good. Reminds me of my old 100/7. Could do with proper mudguard though.
This style of bmw are so good looking all I would want to do is have a different colour and black exhaust and like you is want the twin gages thanks for the review ❤
Great video and lovely bike, and yes price might be high but if looking for a keeper then definitely worth a look at. Would like to see what it handles like with a pillion on. Take care and ride safe
Wow what a sharp bike. Thanks for review. Andy just get one😂
Dammit Andy... now I gotta go test ride this beasty. You're the reason I got my 2018 R9T in the first place. You.. monster.
Sorry!
😂@@TheMissendenFlyer
Nice looking bike. I like the tank, the green and silver works well to my eye.
ATB, Dave
Beautiful video ❤. I own a scrambler Ducati 800 right now. Bought it in my 20’s, now I’m in my 30's i think this bike better suits me now cause I’m getting old. LOL. And can’t deny that horsepower and torque upgrade either. Cool video mate!
Thank you!
Yes please Andy, a more in depth longer term view would be most welcome.👍
Hey Andy, great little review as always my friend 👍
Its a strange one for me..... got no issues with the way the boxer engine looks / fits a GS or an RT but on a retro naked, nope not for me.
All the very best to Mrs Flyer and your good self buddy 👍
From Russ in a very hot and sunny Boa Vista 😎
As per most comments, sadly expensive. The R12 displayed at launch with the gold tank and spoked wheels really got my interest over this very bland nineT version. In Australia however, you have to go mid spec, before you can get that beautiful gold colour combination. Once you get close to the launch spec, you are at close to AU$30k. At that price point you are in the stunning Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello territory , which I had thought was also overpriced here. The Italians would get my money I think. Thanks as always for the review. Always a pleasure to watch, listen and learn...
Love the look sounds like a really good bike, a bit pricey. Thanks for the test and yes a long term would be great
Hello Andy , Yes please on the longer ride review for the R12 Nine T ... This is the one of the three (your Triunph and Kawwi ) that I would get just for the shaft drive though I wish it and the R1200R still had the telelever front end .I do wish this bike had a true rear fender. If you ever get a chance to try an older R69S with the Earles Fork I think you would be amazed how wonderful a ride that bike has ...
That's a great looking bike and the paint looks fabulous. The TFT is a strange addition, albeit very neat. I'd definitely stick with old school clocks. If you secure a longer term loan, luggage options would be interesting. Thanks again.
Yes, like it! Lovely-looking machine. It's been a while since I had a naked bike, but perhaps the fairing option is the way to go. Like to see more Mr F reviews please...
More on the way!
Great video as always Andy thanks. Had the previous RnineT and always felt I was too much on top of rather than in it if you see what I mean. But lovely machine all the same.
Yes please. Get it for longer if possible
I’ve ridden this new bike and I do like the ride 👍
I love the bike, but I think I would prefer the retro clocks to be honest. other than that I do love that they have upped the level of electronics etc. still a beautiful looking machine. another quality review.
Proof that BMW can make a new bike that is still good looking. Hoorah!
Is it better looking than the outgoing bike though? I miss the old air intake on the side…
quite frankly, I still prefer the look and character of the outgoing model.
Last week I sat on the version with the brushed aluminium tank and the red frame during the annual Dutch bike show. Beautiful bike, it's like semi naked bike/semi cruiser sitting position with a bit of a reach. Seems very comfy to me as a sportsbike rider. Checked the price when I got home. Ooo my goodness. The version with the Option 719 (brushed alu) + the comfort pack is 24.625 euro in The Netherlands. All bikes and cars are expensive in the Netherlands due to taxation, but that is just crazy. The Ducati Streetfighter V2 or Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello (s version) are cheap in comparison😅.
Nice initial review, always enjoy your content. Been interested in one of these for many yrs, currently ride a black T120. Just struggle with the price, and previously lack of a fuel gauge. Hopefully addressed on this revised model.
I didn’t notice one!
COngrats...first review I see about this bike... Yeah.. you must do a comparison video with your other two bikes...
Overheard at BMW press fleet: “make sure Andy gets a green one”
Excellent review as always ,Marlow looked really picturesque, still prefer the triumph speed twin(i think)
nice review, mr TMF) thnx!
My pleasure!
I fell in love first time i saw this bike,and like anything you must sleep on it and find out total cost before getting the cheque book out ,that's when my Enthusiasm faded quickly ,to spec; this bike to the correct spec; for reselling when you finish with it was frightening ,then to insure it full comp; which is a must on something that expensive is a must,but after all that I'm still in love😢
As a 2021 RnineT Urban GS owner I think they made some great improvements (although probably not enough for me to replace my 40th edition)
Nice FR vid Andy, my only things/thoughts would be the front mudguard is too short and you can already see the engine is covered in sh1t. Also real hard to make up my mind if I would go for the twin clocks or the digital display (£120 option) both look great. But all in all a great looking bike and as you said starts getting pricy once you spec it up...
Always loved the R9t and thought they were lovely to ride. Definitely look for a longer loan
Been waiting a loong time for this! It’s great to see you with the first crack at it, Andy. You convinced me to buy my 2017 R9T in the rare Blue Planet spec, and I’ve loved it. The question now is whether to trade… laterally for largely the same bike. I’m drawn to the cornering ABS, the option for the spoked tubeless wheels (a $3,000 upgrade to my 2017!!!) and the nice brushed aluminum & red frame of the 719. The big question is whether or not that TFT has a fuel gauge hidden in there. I would enjoy seeing a long term review. Thank you!
I did look for a fuel guage but didn't find it!
It would be good to go for a long termer for appraisal. I have a R1200R for touring, as all my 4 bikes are naked bikes. I love the R1200R but when the 1300 version comes out it would be great to get an appraisal of that from you. Probably be 2025 or plus model year! Keep up the great work. Am off on my V4 Diavel to ride down the east coast of Sth Island New Zealand. I may need to evaluate the comfort seat option!
Nice looking thing, better than the old one. Looks fresher somehow, can`t explain it. By the way as you asked, the no agender vlog videos are good, be nice to see some more of those.
Cool, thanks!
I can’t wait to see the urban gs/scrambler version
I’m glad I still prefer the looks of the previous model as I own one of those.
I have a 21 plate R9T roadster and while I love it to bits I think this one is definitely a move on. The engine looks tidier and the back end is a big improvement. I think I prefer the tank on the original but this one looks better in your video than it does in static photos. I’d be keen to know how the rear suspension is, I had to change mine for a Wilbers. Great review thanks
I'm currently thinking about buying a Triumph Speed Twin, which, in the colour of my choice and the extras fitted that I would want, would still come in under £13k. This BMW looks a fanatic bike but the price and eye-watering cost of the extras which I'd probably want to add, would put me off it. Great review as usual.
....go with the Speed Twin ;0)
I always liked the old R9T and this R12 version looks even nicer. I'd definitely have one next to my 1250GS for summer blasts around the local lanes - price & garage space being the only limitations to prevent this......!
Funny you should say about not being able to find any negatives. A guy called Mark Pulling has a channel and on one of his recent videos there was a few people complaining saying why bother doing bike reviews if you say every bike is great...and I guess the answer is as you have alluded to before is that pretty much all modern bikes are great there's not really any bad points and it's more down to your personal taste if you think its a great bike or not.
On a completely different note. I'm looking to buy a Kawasaki W800 this year, they do not come up for sale often on FB but one popped up yesterday in......Great Missenden!
Cool!
Sorry, what I meant to say is that you always seem to produce good, well edited recordings
Thank you....
Love these. Glad they exist. Spending my own money, I'd buy an immaculately restored airhead. I am well aware that is not normal and that this is better in every measurable way.
Thanks, it always seems to work well for you
What does?
Twin dials for me please. Lovely bike. I was pondering this bike, but couldn’t decide between this and the Speed Twin 1200. Maybe I’ll test ride both in the summer…
I’d definitely like to see you ride it for longer. You never know if it’s that good I might just buy one on the back of your review!!! After all I did buy a BMW 310 r on the back of your review… that was 5 yrs ago… lol 😊
Cool!
Now thats a great looking bike.
I think they’ve made a great looking bike. Only a few things I would change, the tft for the dials and the mirrors don’t look premium enough for the price. And the name is just a little bit daft 😊 love the colour ( glad green is making an appearance in BMWs palette!)
Like the tank reminds me of the 60s BSA Firebird
Nice review and congrats on being the first. One question: does the digital display include a fuel gauge? It's the one thing missing from the previous gen. Thanks.
I couldn't find one - and I did look!
First Comment! I agree that I would prefer the round clocks. I like the tank, as it looks a bit like the old superbike racers from the '70's.
Well done on being first!
@@TheMissendenFlyer When you’re me you treasure your accomplishments however humble.
I’d like to see a long term review of this bike!
Love it when you put the outtakes in! Shame about that price isn’t it? I know the quality is there but makes me wonder if the pricing is to attract a ‘higher’ type of customer.
Maybe, it certainly seems pricey compared to the competition....
A good looking bike and I’m with you regarding the clocks, I think twin clocks are much better suited to that bike. Staggeringly expensive compared to its competitors, but it is BMW and a decent bit of kit.
Is a BMW any better than a Triumph? I’m not so sure (being an owner of both!)….
Looks so similar to my 1995 R1100R. That was a great bike. I took a couple of 4000 + mile trips on that in the rwo years I owned it. I would rather spend a couple thousand dollars more for this than for a Triumph just because the BMW is probably much more reliable in the long one. After all how many Triumphs have you seen with a half a million miles on it where there are lots of How's around that have done that.
Thanks TMF; leaning too far forward and too-wide handlebars are both things I don't like on my old model, so I won't be looking to swap if the new one's more extreme. Maybe the cruiser model...
Looks great, like the little TFT, if only a bit cheaper.
Great review and a lovely looking machine. At that price, I'm not tempted to trade-in my Street Twin, which is great value and good fun. Will however look to add an adventure-tourer at some point, and I like the idea of the BMW boxer twin vs. the Triumph t-plane triple. Maybe a GS or S1000XR.
Yes the GS is a cracker.....
I prefer this to the old R9 T the rear mudguard is better than the plastic rubbish they had on the old one.
I considered getting rid of my Speed Twin for the R9 T but saw this and thought I'd wait. Only thing that is putting me off is they've lowered the seat height on the R12 Nine T, i think with my lanky legs it might now be to cramped 😞
I defo want to try one. Features i like is you can have a quick shifter, cruise and the suspension is fully adjustable oh and no chain, as i like the odd winter ride that would be a massive bonus!
I also like you can get hand guards on the R12 Nine T which don't look that nice but would be an accessory I'd put on in the colder months.
Nice review. For me I would take the Z900RS Cafe. Based on how I would spec one out (Green with Cockpit fairing for BMW) the difference in price is about $5600 (usd) more for the R12nineT. I also had a couple of friends that owned the original Z900 and was given a chance to ride their bikes and loved it. Ever since they brought back the Z900RS I told myself if I had extra money there would be one in the garage. Though I still prefer it in Kawaski green. My problem is I haven't found that extra money.
Always good to have something to lust after!
I love it Andy, I loved the older one too, Pity it’s so expensive with the options I’d have.
I totally agree!