I've done both salts and organic.. and organic is by far tastes better smells better and grows better stickier etc.. only downfall I'd say yield isn't as good.. but your getting honey instead of water so win win.. Organic dry amendments for the win..
@@DavidWood-qw8rq Or maybe it means salts are just bad.. You dont know if you haven't done it.. ask yourself a question? Would you rather eat fruit that's grown in salts or natural amendments.. Salts give No flavour full of water.. 1000% better quality organically grown..
@@Single7s sadly for you, absolutely none of that is correct. At all 😔. It’s wild how much science is available about this, how bad organics are for the environment, etc.. and yet there are still inexperienced growers like yourself who make these claims. It’s sad and keeps cannabis in the “gay” zone. Where people don’t take it serious. I’ve done both for over 20 years… tested terps, thc, etc at labs and you are sadly mistaken. You don’t need to agree with me, you just need to learn how to read. It’s easy, just takes time. I know it’s quicker to watch a video with people who are also novice growers, but reading the science will do you more justice. Keep trying. I’m sure youll get the hang of it.
I think the argument has been greatly confused or not conveyed properly ever since Chris's podcast with Bruce Bugby... If we're talking purely bottled fertilizers, then yes; organically produced *fertilizers* & synthetically produced *fertilizers* both provide the same required useable nutes for growing a plant. However bottled organic fertilizers are in no way the same thing as an actual *organic grow* in true organic living soil & no till methods. An organic living soil grow has very complex give & take relationships between the plant, microbes, fungi & bacteria where all involved are harmoniously communicating, feeding & protecting each other. It's these symbiotic relationships that have been the life force of mother earth since day one that are what makes a true organic grow have insanely complex full terpene & flavour profiles over plants that have just been grown on a feeding schedule of already made & bottled synthetically or organically manufactured nutrients. There's a really great documentary I highly recommend that goes into great detail of what soil is & it's symbiotic relationship with plants called *Symphony Of The Soil* A fascinating must watch for anyone who wants to understand the magic of what's happening in true organic growing.
I question the hydroponic prowess of the people conducting these studies. I've been growing hydro for 13 years and my flavor profile has always been ridiculous. I have not found anything in any dispensary that can compare. Perhaps the hydro growers are missing a step or two along the way that's affecting the outcome of the plants? Soil organic is easy to produce moderately good buds. It's intensely difficult to produce high quality, dense, smelly, sticky buds in hydro consistently. I grow different genetics in the same hydro room, all getting the same nutrients, everything turns out entirely different, that's 100% due to genetics and cloning, as well as a high attention to detail with my hydro system. The idea of diluting the sap is kind of silly, but okay dude.
I would happily learn from you then, i didnt produce good weed with mineral fertilizer And i didnt even have controll about it it seems, some plants tasted good and some tasted toxic af and i waterd them the same i used same dosage fertilizer, dont know why but mineral doesnt work for me
@@backbone93 Bad genetics probably. I have grown some of the best I ever grew in CoCo with Synthetic fertilizer and ALL the Additives. That's key when using Synthetic. You must use all th additives to get all the Macro nutrients
@@zkilla4611 yeah youre right, now i know as well Learned a lot since i wrote this, when i wrote this i only took seedlings ever Now i took cuttlings and from good genetics it was good with chemicslal fertilizer too But organics is still way better. It has 0% side effects, not in the throat, not in the head, its just good for you With chemical fertilizer, yes the taste might be there too, but its not "good for you", it doesnt have zero sideeffects From organic weed i can smoke 5-10g a day and not have a single negative side effect With chemical fertilizer there will be side Effects.
@@zkilla4611 and honestly just for my personal bio chemistry in my body, the organic is way better for me I get so calm and spiritual from organic weed From chemical weed its not nearly the same "clean" high Its waaayyy more toxic , but only long time smokers and people that smoke more than 2-3 g a day will notice that. Someone who smokes one two joint here or there will not notice the difference
yeah youre right, now i know as well Learned a lot since i wrote this, when i wrote this i only took seedlings ever Now i took cuttlings and from good genetics it was good with synthethic too But organics is still way better. It has 0% side effects, not in the throat, not in the head, its just good for you With synthethics yes the taste might be there too, but its not "good for you", it doesnt have zero sideeffects From organic weed i can smoke 5-10 g a day and not have a single negative side effect With synthethics there will be side Effects.
Organic?? Really certified organic. Hps/led not organic. Tap/ro water not organic. Compost, are all the he inputs organic, any processed powders or liquid cannot be considered organic. Manure, did it come from an organic animal grazed only on organic cud. Mollasses is processed so not organic also high in heavy metal. Epsom salt is compound not organic. Just cause someone is selling organic sourced and processed fertiliser doesn't make your grow organic.
Like he said, nute balance makes a great tasting plant. Its extremely hard to balance nutrients with organic. Organic growers are plagued with toxicity and lock outs becauseof it. Which causes airy buds that smell and taste bad. Synthetic bottles are a perfect balance off micro and macros which make for a fat sticky plant that smells and tastes great with ease. Organics can be great but they are for experienced growers.
To each their own. As for knowing what their talking about. When these guys start growing buds like me I'll start listening. For the record, I use organic inputs and synthetic. I'm aware of their benefits and pitfalls.
Plagued with toxicity and lock outs ? Airy buds ? Smell and taste bad ? WTF ? Haha I believe the best thing you said was experience. Lol. Keep trucking brother, you'll get there. Been doing this since 82.
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Just done my first organic grow (kings juce and alienz)absolutely amazing and never going back to bottles
I've done both salts and organic.. and organic is by far tastes better smells better and grows better stickier etc.. only downfall I'd say yield isn't as good.. but your getting honey instead of water so win win.. Organic dry amendments for the win..
Can only agree, quality is uncompareable, its night and day
But yield does gone down
It just means you’re bad at salts..
@@DavidWood-qw8rq Or maybe it means salts are just bad.. You dont know if you haven't done it.. ask yourself a question? Would you rather eat fruit that's grown in salts or natural amendments.. Salts give No flavour full of water.. 1000% better quality organically grown..
@@backbone93 Defo is night & day So smooth 👍
@@Single7s sadly for you, absolutely none of that is correct. At all 😔. It’s wild how much science is available about this, how bad organics are for the environment, etc.. and yet there are still inexperienced growers like yourself who make these claims. It’s sad and keeps cannabis in the “gay” zone. Where people don’t take it serious. I’ve done both for over 20 years… tested terps, thc, etc at labs and you are sadly mistaken. You don’t need to agree with me, you just need to learn how to read. It’s easy, just takes time. I know it’s quicker to watch a video with people who are also novice growers, but reading the science will do you more justice.
Keep trying. I’m sure youll get the hang of it.
Cool video! Sun grown and living soil is all i know..Cheers! 😎💯👊🏼
Sending good vibes organic best but usin both nutrients N veggies n medicine AWSOME TERPS definitely Gromie info always great Chris 🏴💚🌱💯👊✌️😎🔥
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This guy know's his stuff
I think the argument has been greatly confused or not conveyed properly ever since Chris's podcast with Bruce Bugby...
If we're talking purely bottled fertilizers, then yes; organically produced *fertilizers* & synthetically produced *fertilizers* both provide the same required useable nutes for growing a plant.
However bottled organic fertilizers are in no way the same thing as an actual *organic grow* in true organic living soil & no till methods. An organic living soil grow has very complex give & take relationships between the plant, microbes, fungi & bacteria where all involved are harmoniously communicating, feeding & protecting each other. It's these symbiotic relationships that have been the life force of mother earth since day one that are what makes a true organic grow have insanely complex full terpene & flavour profiles over plants that have just been grown on a feeding schedule of already made & bottled synthetically or organically manufactured nutrients.
There's a really great documentary I highly recommend that goes into great detail of what soil is & it's symbiotic relationship with plants called *Symphony Of The Soil*
A fascinating must watch for anyone who wants to understand the magic of what's happening in true organic growing.
Well shit, that was informative.
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I question the hydroponic prowess of the people conducting these studies. I've been growing hydro for 13 years and my flavor profile has always been ridiculous. I have not found anything in any dispensary that can compare. Perhaps the hydro growers are missing a step or two along the way that's affecting the outcome of the plants? Soil organic is easy to produce moderately good buds. It's intensely difficult to produce high quality, dense, smelly, sticky buds in hydro consistently. I grow different genetics in the same hydro room, all getting the same nutrients, everything turns out entirely different, that's 100% due to genetics and cloning, as well as a high attention to detail with my hydro system. The idea of diluting the sap is kind of silly, but okay dude.
I would happily learn from you then, i didnt produce good weed with mineral fertilizer
And i didnt even have controll about it it seems, some plants tasted good and some tasted toxic af and i waterd them the same i used same dosage fertilizer, dont know why but mineral doesnt work for me
@@backbone93 Bad genetics probably. I have grown some of the best I ever grew in CoCo with Synthetic fertilizer and ALL the Additives. That's key when using Synthetic. You must use all th additives to get all the Macro nutrients
@@zkilla4611 yeah youre right, now i know as well
Learned a lot since i wrote this, when i wrote this i only took seedlings ever
Now i took cuttlings and from good genetics it was good with chemicslal fertilizer too
But organics is still way better.
It has 0% side effects, not in the throat, not in the head, its just good for you
With chemical fertilizer, yes the taste might be there too, but its not "good for you", it doesnt have zero sideeffects
From organic weed i can smoke 5-10g a day and not have a single negative side effect
With chemical fertilizer there will be side Effects.
@@zkilla4611 and honestly just for my personal bio chemistry in my body, the organic is way better for me
I get so calm and spiritual from organic weed
From chemical weed its not nearly the same "clean" high
Its waaayyy more toxic , but only long time smokers and people that smoke more than 2-3 g a day will notice that.
Someone who smokes one two joint here or there will not notice the difference
yeah youre right, now i know as well
Learned a lot since i wrote this, when i wrote this i only took seedlings ever
Now i took cuttlings and from good genetics it was good with synthethic too
But organics is still way better.
It has 0% side effects, not in the throat, not in the head, its just good for you
With synthethics yes the taste might be there too, but its not "good for you", it doesnt have zero sideeffects
From organic weed i can smoke 5-10 g a day and not have a single negative side effect
With synthethics there will be side Effects.
Organic?? Really certified organic. Hps/led not organic. Tap/ro water not organic. Compost, are all the he inputs organic, any processed powders or liquid cannot be considered organic. Manure, did it come from an organic animal grazed only on organic cud. Mollasses is processed so not organic also high in heavy metal. Epsom salt is compound not organic. Just cause someone is selling organic sourced and processed fertiliser doesn't make your grow organic.
Like he said, nute balance makes a great tasting plant. Its extremely hard to balance nutrients with organic. Organic growers are plagued with toxicity and lock outs becauseof it. Which causes airy buds that smell and taste bad. Synthetic bottles are a perfect balance off micro and macros which make for a fat sticky plant that smells and tastes great with ease. Organics can be great but they are for experienced growers.
To each their own. As for knowing what their talking about. When these guys start growing buds like me I'll start listening. For the record, I use organic inputs and synthetic. I'm aware of their benefits and pitfalls.
Plagued with toxicity and lock outs ?
Airy buds ? Smell and taste bad ?
WTF ? Haha
I believe the best thing you said was experience. Lol. Keep trucking brother, you'll get there. Been doing this since 82.
I am yet to see a lockout from growing purely organic lolol
@philaxaba9701 yet to see one in your grow, maybe.
I was like man he made so many typos like how could you say synthetics are so bad so many times accidentally saying organic hahaha
organic less money
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These clips from interview's are GREAT!!
Thanks Chris
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