Trickster should have been CC, inhaling incense causes different status effects. Like tarring, drenched, etc. Summoning the corpses of defeated foes, to make a “pet”, would have been awesome as well.
Trickster would have been better if everything did not require so much to set up (usually the enemy is already dead from my pawns attacks before I'm even ready setting up a deadly trap) And we need 6 to 8 skill slots instead of just 4. 4 is only enough to set up just 1 situational trap while being unprepared for all other scenario's. And its not like two sets of four skill slots would be impossible, DD1 did it.
Woulda made the perfect solo class, clones instead of pawns, snares, traps, a bunch of skills etc just troll but no comment I won’t play that class that simple
Agreed, I feel like the trickster has huge potential to be really fun, manipulating AI is always fun while watching them goof about. Right now it feels alright but it is way too restrictive and underdeveloped.
@@SkRo0L3w5e Or just illusions you can make "semi-real" (your pawns and you can walk over the platforms, but enemies fall through them, or your clone can actually move and attack)
we could've had alchemist instead of trickster too : ( i would make mystic knight into a Holy/Dark Paladin vocation that uses a flail and a conjured shield. but they won't do that, they even removed brontide the lightning whip and gave us a generic turret. majority of what is good in DD2 is just what is returning from DD1 and DDO
Agreed, I really think the AOE taunt skills should just be upgrades of your X attack instead of equippable skills, so as you rank up your X attack gets better aggro generation and range.
like u mentioned in your description: too much setup for a few kills, when other classes do that in seconds. the trickster is a fun concept, but not that great of an execution imo
In other video it was shown that the trickster suffers in 1v1 battles against bosses. All he can do is kite bosses with his illusory duplicates, occasionally buff allies and when all else fails, he swings his censer for a pitiful amount of damage.
And getting hit destroys the clone and all the aggro goes to you so you can cast another, also attaching the clone to something usually makes it direct attention to you because it doesn't see the clone 🫠
@@quint3ssent1a I actually like to have my illusion cling to the boss, the boss constantly tries to shake it off but rarely succeeds. Still, in general I agree that the Trickster is too much effort for too little payoff.
@@quint3ssent1aIt depends on the boss and location. Anything that cannot fly can be killed instantly by ledging. If you cannot abuse that, your team comp has to be solid. Also, censer does no damage but will reapply aggro. You can get money out of it though. It is a fun and unique class but super boring if you are not into the playstyle or handling pawns.
You enjoy trickster by setting intricate traps. I enjoy trickster by turning my pawns into cracked out, blood lusted killing machines while i constantly stagger foes with my Dragonfruit flavor vape cloud. We are not the same
The Whimsical Daydream censer was worth finishing the riddles with the Sphinx. Luckiest strike so far was on a hobgoblin that netted 50,000 gold. Usually get 10's, 100's gold on each strike on an enemy.
It's a good class to level as their are some good augments that help U get alot of seekers tokens etc. I got the special daggers for the thief and can now find treasure easily as well.
@@DovahVokunaI wouldn't be as upset about it being gone if Trickster had some actual ways of dealing direct damage. I genuinely feel like Mystick Spearhand should've been a Green/Blue hybrid instead of replacing Mystick Knight as Red/Blue. I can have Mystick Knight at home with Warfarer but it just... Isn't the same at all.
Or Mystic Spearhand force-push or home run swing. Trickster straight up sucks, it takes triple the time to kill anything and it's completely useless by itself. There are situations in the game in which you are separated from your pawns and if you're running this class you're pretty much screwed. It's even worthless to use on Warferer since all it's illusions go away as soon as you swap the censer. For real, they should have stuck with Mystic Knight, adapt a DDO vocation or anything other than this.
@Xfushion2 there's still ways to win In those solo moments you just need to be creative, like the mercenary 1v1 my friend tricked him into jumping off the bridge.
It is never about kill time, but about the fact that you can show off your strategies and well-planned team comp. This is the Riddle of Contest into vocation form. Best at combat? No. Best at seeing monsters that can’t fly running off cliffs? Totally.
Ngl, as much as I found Trickster boring, it was the best class for getting from point A to B quickly. Just keep tapping r1 to drag your smoke clone around and all the enemies that would normally be pouncing on you every 30ft target the clone instead. You can pretty much just ignore it all and keep walking.
I did beat it but mostly using the balista, throwing ice cubes my pawns conjured or just buffing the pawns. Obv would have been faster with any other vocation.
I love that I had to scroll for literally five minutes just to find someone pointing out the reason this class exists, despite the WELL KNOWN fact that it can't deal damage.
My party survival rate is the highest when i use trickster and i dont even have mage I play with no setup like wall or floor Just make bunshin, buff your team, spam dragon, it even flinch the real dragon
yea now i am 100% sure that trickster is completely broken for me, enemies just DONT CARE about fumes and my clone. they attack only me and my pawns, and sometimes they attack the guy who i latch the clone onto.
basically nothing.. mainly because you're limited to only 4 skills so you can't really set anything cool up. we could've had alchemist instead, that would've been way cooler.
@@lucasdufer9499 because it’s a wasted spell slot for this build. Sorcerers don’t get any benefit from weapon enchants I don’t think and trickster doesn’t deal any damage with physical attacks. So I just prefer high halidom for status clearing and the rest as dps spells
Game needs an update/patch or an official post for a DLC or something I love the game already have tons of hours into it, restarted a bunch of times, but man…. basic DD was way better and I’m not even including dark arisen yet
![Trickster is Peak Gaming - [Dragon's Dogma 2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/eIFw8hDG6Jc/mqdefault.jpg)
![Trickster is Peak Gaming - [Dragon's Dogma 2]](/img/tr.png)
Trickster should have been CC, inhaling incense causes different status effects. Like tarring, drenched, etc. Summoning the corpses of defeated foes, to make a “pet”, would have been awesome as well.
Sounds like a necromancer not a trickster.
So much effort just to kill goblins and it’s “the best class”
There was one he could've just picked up and thrown off the cliff himself.
Trickster would have been better if everything did not require so much to set up (usually the enemy is already dead from my pawns attacks before I'm even ready setting up a deadly trap)
And we need 6 to 8 skill slots instead of just 4.
4 is only enough to set up just 1 situational trap while being unprepared for all other scenario's.
And its not like two sets of four skill slots would be impossible, DD1 did it.
Woulda made the perfect solo class, clones instead of pawns, snares, traps, a bunch of skills etc just troll but no comment I won’t play that class that simple
I still don't understand why we have only 4 slots tbqh
Agreed, I feel like the trickster has huge potential to be really fun, manipulating AI is always fun while watching them goof about. Right now it feels alright but it is way too restrictive and underdeveloped.
Not enough buffs or debuffs in the class just a bunch of situational skills
@@SkRo0L3w5e Or just illusions you can make "semi-real" (your pawns and you can walk over the platforms, but enemies fall through them, or your clone can actually move and attack)
We lost Mystic knight for this 😭
We were robbed fr 😭😭
It got swapped out for a twinspear build XD
They might add it in the dark arisen like DLC where we might face death, and more powerful monsters 😊
Stay at DD then 💁🏻♂️💁🏻♂️
we could've had alchemist instead of trickster too : (
i would make mystic knight into a Holy/Dark Paladin vocation that uses a flail and a conjured shield. but they won't do that, they even removed brontide the lightning whip and gave us a generic turret.
majority of what is good in DD2 is just what is returning from DD1 and DDO
I love yhe trickster class but i think it suffers the most out of all classes from the 4 skill restrictions
Undercooked class 😞
Warrior class: At least i can use ONE more skill now! D
Agreed, I really think the AOE taunt skills should just be upgrades of your X attack instead of equippable skills, so as you rank up your X attack gets better aggro generation and range.
like u mentioned in your description: too much setup for a few kills, when other classes do that in seconds. the trickster is a fun concept, but not that great of an execution imo
In other video it was shown that the trickster suffers in 1v1 battles against bosses. All he can do is kite bosses with his illusory duplicates, occasionally buff allies and when all else fails, he swings his censer for a pitiful amount of damage.
And getting hit destroys the clone and all the aggro goes to you so you can cast another, also attaching the clone to something usually makes it direct attention to you because it doesn't see the clone 🫠
@@quint3ssent1a I actually like to have my illusion cling to the boss, the boss constantly tries to shake it off but rarely succeeds. Still, in general I agree that the Trickster is too much effort for too little payoff.
@@quint3ssent1aIt depends on the boss and location. Anything that cannot fly can be killed instantly by ledging. If you cannot abuse that, your team comp has to be solid.
Also, censer does no damage but will reapply aggro. You can get money out of it though.
It is a fun and unique class but super boring if you are not into the playstyle or handling pawns.
LoL. That LTG Pawn was unexpected. Nailed it
And yet highly fitting considering LTG's most known thing he's memed on for
the downside is that u can't loot their corpses
you can, you just have to go down, or reload your save
@@tpempthis guy is a genius
@@DJVibeDubstep life hack from the previous game, the save system teleports enemies and their drops back to their original spawn point
A pure buffer/support on an ai only game lmao such fun
You enjoy trickster by setting intricate traps.
I enjoy trickster by turning my pawns into cracked out, blood lusted killing machines while i constantly stagger foes with my Dragonfruit flavor vape cloud.
We are not the same
I laughed at this more than I care to admit😂
The Whimsical Daydream censer was worth finishing the riddles with the Sphinx. Luckiest strike so far was on a hobgoblin that netted 50,000 gold. Usually get 10's, 100's gold on each strike on an enemy.
It's a good class to level as their are some good augments that help U get alot of seekers tokens etc. I got the special daggers for the thief and can now find treasure easily as well.
"What are you doing? were in the midst of battle!!???" The pawn dont even know what the hell is going on.
WAIT UR PAWN IS AMAZING LMFAO
One of your pawns might have dragons plauge from that response.
Don't worry I heard that before. I heard that dialogue before. That stuff about the weapons plays if the pawn has an under leveled weapon.
My spearhand begs to differ. A lot less setup to get goblins to go off a cliff.
Based
The detection augment is awesome
Gets annoying after a while.
I need the strider class back.
Warfarer. Thief + archer.
Dale as a pawn lmao
Trickster is the type of class you have fun with after you've completed the game several times
Love illusions
Love setups
Love ai manipulation
Thief would kill them quicker and with more style. Sorcerer too. I don't see the point in Trickster.
The point is having fun at pranking someone, I guess ;-)
One minute setup instead of just one swing with a warrior 😞🪖
They should've brought back mystic knight instead of this goofy ass class
@@toastywrath2346true, that was my favourite class. Hate that its not in here.
@@DovahVokunaI wouldn't be as upset about it being gone if Trickster had some actual ways of dealing direct damage. I genuinely feel like Mystick Spearhand should've been a Green/Blue hybrid instead of replacing Mystick Knight as Red/Blue. I can have Mystick Knight at home with Warfarer but it just... Isn't the same at all.
Or Mystic Spearhand force-push or home run swing.
Trickster straight up sucks, it takes triple the time to kill anything and it's completely useless by itself. There are situations in the game in which you are separated from your pawns and if you're running this class you're pretty much screwed.
It's even worthless to use on Warferer since all it's illusions go away as soon as you swap the censer.
For real, they should have stuck with Mystic Knight, adapt a DDO vocation or anything other than this.
@Xfushion2 there's still ways to win In those solo moments you just need to be creative, like the mercenary 1v1 my friend tricked him into jumping off the bridge.
The only time I felt that the trickster was good was having Medusa stare at my illusion while my pawns do their work.
It is never about kill time, but about the fact that you can show off your strategies and well-planned team comp.
This is the Riddle of Contest into vocation form.
Best at combat? No. Best at seeing monsters that can’t fly running off cliffs? Totally.
Trickster + Solo Pawn is pretty fun.
Started a NG+ yesterday will give that a go :)
I think Trickster has potential, we just needed more ways to attack with the environment.
lol lead a dragon into the sea, well then you don’t get the wrymcrystals 😑
Do any trickster skills do actual damage?
No, just emotional damage
"AAAAAHOOHOOHOOEEY!"
Goofy is a different franchise, yo.
I'm also using same
Ngl, as much as I found Trickster boring, it was the best class for getting from point A to B quickly.
Just keep tapping r1 to drag your smoke clone around and all the enemies that would normally be pouncing on you every 30ft target the clone instead.
You can pretty much just ignore it all and keep walking.
Clever but my Sorcerer would just unalive them all in a quarter of the time you took to trick them
The problem is that the loot is gone as well >D
That’s a lot of set up to do nothing
Let me know how the final dragon goes for you lol
I did beat it but mostly using the balista, throwing ice cubes my pawns conjured or just buffing the pawns. Obv would have been faster with any other vocation.
Y'all are missing the point. It's not the best class because it's the most effective or the least effort, it's the best class because it's _funny._
How dare you not playing the meta in a singleplayer RPG
I love that I had to scroll for literally five minutes just to find someone pointing out the reason this class exists, despite the WELL KNOWN fact that it can't deal damage.
Nice, makes me want to do this vocation next
Nobody talks about how tricksters melee swings generate 10 100 or 1k g on hit...
Uhhh that is really fucking cool
My party survival rate is the highest when i use trickster and i dont even have mage
I play with no setup like wall or floor
Just make bunshin, buff your team, spam dragon, it even flinch the real dragon
yea now i am 100% sure that trickster is completely broken for me, enemies just DONT CARE about fumes and my clone. they attack only me and my pawns, and sometimes they attack the guy who i latch the clone onto.
what else can it do, i see the same skill used on every vid
basically nothing.. mainly because you're limited to only 4 skills so you can't really set anything cool up.
we could've had alchemist instead, that would've been way cooler.
Trickster is cool I get it but it’s my least fav class fs the augments you get are good tho
Trickster with a mage and 2 sorcerers is a blast. (Make sure your mage doesn’t have any kind of elemental weapon enchant)
Why would it be a problem to have enchantment?🤔
@@lucasdufer9499errr kinda useless since you do 0 dmg? Unless you're running whimsical and want to put status effect on the enemy
@@lucasdufer9499 because it’s a wasted spell slot for this build. Sorcerers don’t get any benefit from weapon enchants I don’t think and trickster doesn’t deal any damage with physical attacks. So I just prefer high halidom for status clearing and the rest as dps spells
not the best but the funniest?
absolutely
Best class at throwing you loot away?
I HAD NO IDEA YOU COULD DO THIS 😂
But you are not getting any loot
Actually i prefer physical fighting
I LOVE doing no damage
God all games just seem so lame
Most classes in the first one would clap all classes in this one though. And they'd do it with smoother framerate.
Trickster should have been a pawn available class. And trickster should have had access to formless feint instead of thief
a theif would have pressed 2 buttons to obtain the same results
sounds boring
Can’t even loot conveniently and lots of effort. Cool/funny but eh. It’s a gimmick meme class at best lol.
Game needs an update/patch or an official post for a DLC or something I love the game already have tons of hours into it, restarted a bunch of times, but man…. basic DD was way better and I’m not even including dark arisen yet
Naw
like many things in this game, no one playtested this class.
taking triple the time to kill some regular mobs isn't exactly "best"
I love dd but this class is just plain bs 😂
If by "best" you mean "absolute frickin trash" then yea, I agree. This vocation is a joke and pretty much everyone knows it lol
Best class didn't even represented in DD2
Its such a dumb class to be honest. I have no idea what they where thinking. Why not make a proper necromancer?
Pretty shit ai tbh
Nobody cares tbh
I'm honestly surprised how bad the npcs are, they are essentially still Skyrim npcs... how have we not improved npcs at all in these past 13 years?
@@allandm Actually trolling
This is the worst thing about dd2. Such a boring class. It should’ve been a summoner.