Plane Approaches Too Low
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Asiana and SFO have a.... uh... complicated relationship.
Especially in 777s
Dont really understand why they‘re not performing a simple ILS approach like everywhere else in the world… 🤷🏻♂️
Yes, Captains Win Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong can attest to that
@@waqasusmans and that Ho Lee Fuk pilot
@@waqasusmansdon't forget bang ding ow
Asiana and SFO, the low approaches and everything. The bond is unreal
hahahaha yes
+ the same 777 type, being a 777-200
I hope they learned their lesson.
It got me clicken when I saw it
same *runway* as well = 28L
777 instructor here. The Asiana 777 looks to me to be on glideslope and actually touches down a little long.
Carpet cleaner here. You took the words right out of my mouth
777 fan here, do you know of any scholarships/sponsors willing to fund my dream to fly?
To ask those looking for a scholarship, it varies from country to country. I have heard that there are scholarships in Canada for Canadians. Other than that, check in your own country. Frankly, though, I'm very much out of touch with the primary training possibilities.
@@davidkeasal6542 noted🙏
video game player here, i could have landed in half the runway length.
People who know Asiana flight 214 💀
Bang ding ow 💀💀
Who doesn't know?
💀
@@planespotterronish👍
That's the first thing that came to my mind.
The Asiana landing was buttery smooth, as if it was a challenge not to wake up the baby sleeping in row 20.
Nah, the baby was busy crying at the top of their lungs already due to air pressure changes.
PFFFFFFTTTTT🤣🤣🤣
smooth is not what you want out of a landing, that's how you run out of runway. You want the pilot to stick the landing at the beginning of the runway
@@drpaine7428 exactly!
@@drpaine7428 Exactamondo 💯
Asiana was just fine the whole time. The reason it looked lower is because it was farther ahead, so it had to be lower in order to make the touchdown zone, which it did.
SFO 28L also has a 2.85 degree glide slope instead of the normal 3.00 as on 28R.
I had to look again. That's what causes the illusion.
@@Daniel-go6ci great catch! That would make the other plane look even lower.
The parallel approaches at SF require one airplane to be the lead plane, so the other aircraft can keep them in sight and maintain visual separation. Here the Asiana plane was ahead and lower so the Virgin America Airbus was following. Pretty impressive that the 777’s VREF is so close to the A319/320/321 (whatever Airbus model that was).
Thank you!
Nothing wrong with the Asiana approach. It's definitely not "too low".
That finnish man cursing about forgetting headphones at 2:40 😂
Lol
i speak finnish
1:43
Didn't look to me like they were low but daaaaamn that was a smooth landing. I think taxiing to the gate was probably bumpier than that landing.
Greased it. Barely any tire smoke.
Southwest pilots take note!
@@alm4132 Southwest pilots don't have gear tilt and 12 wheels.
@@mr.verification9993 Got excuses though!!!
@@alm4132 It's not a plane meant to be buttered. There's a reason you're unemployed.
"Too low" is what happened on July 6, 2013. This was somewhere between "low" and "perfectly normal", probably closer to the latter.
Renember the number, 214……
Asiana flight was hella smooth. If I was a passenger on the row seats, I would've never known we had landed.
Video title: Plane is too low!
First frame of the video: Actually it's perfect!
Looked like a super smooth landing to me
The problem is, a super low approach like that is not safe. I forget the exact reasons why but they need to be within the glide path or else there's various issues that could happen. Like if there was a sudden downward gust of wind, it's better to be higher up when the plane isn't over the runway.
@@R2Bl3nd fair point!
@@R2Bl3nd Or engine failure/bird strike on final. If too low you may not reach the runway.
Agreed. It might have been on the lower side (although I think visual parallax from the higher plane was more likely), but it was stabilised the whole way in and hit right on the aiming markers.
(I’d rather have been on that plane than the second one 🤣)
That's so cool how the Asiana plane was lower in altitude the entire time yet they both touched down at the same time.
Probably because the Asiana was just a couple of hundred feet in front and therefore lower. Is would say at the same distance to airport they probably had the same height.
@@Volvo_EG It’s not just perception. You are partly correct. But even when completely abeam, the 28R airplane is usually slightly higher than 28L traffic. This is because the 28L PAPI is set up at 2.85 degrees, 28R is set up for 3.00 degrees.
Redwood Cactus Northwest 👍🏼
Yeah, had a similar experience flying into Dallas one time except that it was flight with about 60 drunken guy's from NYC on our way to see the Giants play the Cowboys. But is was funny as heck as they were all yelling and rooting for our plane to touch down first. Lol. 😂
@@Silo-Ren that sounds like the most epic flight ever lol.
Landing in SFO is always interesting because you feel like the plane is about to ditch in the water.
Funny, I never feel like that.
I think this is one of the best 3MA I've seen yet. Thank you!
That wasn't refueling... that's how you get baby F-18s. Nature sure is amazing!
Don’t be ridiculous.
It s an F18 towing an other F18
@@Boss_Tanaka Next time don't park in the handicapped zone.
A hell of a lot cheaper too
lmao
That was a buttery 777 landing!
I’ve definitely had a much “lower” landing at SFO. Coming in from Monterey in rough weather, at night, with heavy fog. Broke through the fog in time to see dark water right under the wing, gasp, and then hit tarmac, all in the span of a single second.
That first clip of parallel landings was sublime poetry in flight- ahhh! Thanks filmer, poster and hoster.
Excellent clips! The first demonstrates buttering the runway, the second shows years of expertise, and the third displays precision flying.
Years of experience 😂😂😂 he absolutely butchered the landing and deceleration
I checked and "buttering the runway" is an expression ( love Urban Dictionary )...but before I checked, I thought of "Last Tango in Paris"/Maria Schneider....
Thanks I did them all
I love being in a plane on SFO approach on a nice day. Always awesome to watch dual landings. Only thing better would be a triple wide at ATL..
We've got some triple wides in ATL. You don't want to be stuck in between them on a long flight.
the view at night is unreal also. Especially with a full moon on all the water
so you like threeways? I would rather have planes do their own thing in safe distance zones, and I'm sure they all did/would, but that's my ignorance/precaution talking to myself...
So I agree with most of the comments, he doesn't look low to me in fact he seems to be the same approach height as the plane where the video was taken. Looks like a beautiful approach to me.
as a pilot myself, that Asiana’s approach was perfectly fine
LOVED The Dual Landings at the very beginning! On a side note, I was sweating bullets not seeing your "Plane" on the Kiosks for Times of Video Arrivals in my TH-cam Mailbox!🤣 Glad you all made it safely! Cheers From The Clouds In Ohio To ALL Who Fly With 3 Minutes Of Aviation!
one day someone, if not me as i live in ATL, will get a three wide landing video - KATL has 3 Parallel landing runways. 9R/27L, 8L/26R and 10/28
you can see that on ADSB all the time as well.
@@CapStar362 Appreciate your response and heads up info CapStar! Cheers From The Concourse In COW-lumbus, Ohio MOO
That 777 buttered the landing - nice!
1:57 - David Attenborough: "And here we see up in the sky two hornets performing a mating ritual midflight. Quite extraordinary."
I love watching the parallel ILS into Atlanta. Looks pretty similar without the water
3:11min!!! Thank you for 11 more seconds of Aviation - we are back in business now 😁
That first shot is awesome 👍
Asiana 777 absolutely buttering the bread with that approach/landing
Me at first: Asiana 214?!
Same
Yu So Dum
Damn i think its the second same incident :v
That wing strike landing looked like it was just dropping vertically, like a helicopter. Great angle.
I remember when I sub to you u where at 300 follower I knew you would get more than 100 k congrats
That was such a beautiful touch down
Love that approach into SFO.. double landed many times there.
The fact it's an Asiana 777 doing a low approach at SFO is... ironic to say the least.
Wait no no no no no I don’t like where this is going
@@AFootballFan10 Sum Ting Wong
It wasn't a low approach however.
@@starguy2718 Wi Tu Low
Ho Lee Fuk
Bang Ding Ow
@@n666eo The public eat up his videos.
Sensationalist/deceitful title for a perfect approach and landing!
Fantastic!
The Asiana landing looked perfect!!
That was one of the smoothest boeing 777 landings I’ve ever seen!
That was the smoothest landing anyone has ever made at SFO.
The 1st landing looks awesome! I couldn't have done any better!
(By the way I'm not pilot)
But do you play one on TV?
@@sanddabz5635 why yes, I do but tell anyone! Ha!
@@robertgriffin662
😂
Damn that asiana 777 had an absolute buttery smooth landing
that was a butter smooth landing at a normal height, i praise the pilots for that nice landing
1:19 i once landed on schiphol in a klm 777 in a storm on my way back from NYC. We where weaving side to side. I can only imagine how it looked on the outside
Awesome. Really great clips. Thanks and thanks to those who captured.
great filming by the passenger in the chase plane at SFO!
"Filming ?"....i wish film was used like back in the day, but i dont think so
time to retire that word i guess...
It touched down beautifully. THATS my minimum requirement from a pilot. 😂😂. Good video ❤
Nice to spot this approach!
I've flown virtually every kind of approach and most of the time been able to hit the touchdown zone just right. What makes you question yourself is when you fly a text. Book picture perfect approach and completely mess that zone or land hard. Landings are the best reason to fly.
The San Fran landing looked spot on to me.
Everyone talking about the Asiana Airlines landing, but noone talking about that HK Airlines freak landing! That took really sick skills.
There was actually very little skill on display. That was pathetic.
@@lbowsk Landing safely is never ever pathetic.
(B777 captain here) I normally hesitate to talk bad about colleagues. But the Hong Kong Airlines pilot unnecessarily applied too much right rudder after landing, and then tried to correct things with a huge rudder input to the left (into the wind -which you normally would never ever do!). Unfortunately it’s solely a case of pilot induced oscillations on the rollout.
In fact, I’m quite surprised, that most comments were about the perfectly normal approach of Asiana to SFO instead.
The approach into SFO is about as close us regular passengers will get to an aircraft carrier type landing. (Much larger scale at SFO.) Water, water, water, water, land and touchdown.
Except for the sea wall.☹
I actually think OAK just a handful of miles away is a better example.
Just my own eyeballs, but the distance from water to runway threshold seems to be a few feet shorter (and it’s from both approaches , not just approaching 280*)
At no time did that plane look to low to me🤷
There was absolutely nothing wrong with that Asiana landing - buttery smooth. Well done.
That wasn’t low, it was PERFECT
That asiana landing was awesome🔝 💯 🔥
0:16 Asians 214 vibes
Bit of an over-dramatic title, it didn't look too low at all!
Great shot of The Peninsula in the San Francisco Bay Area in that first video… The sun shines way more beautiful in California!
Too low? That looked legit
He did not approach it too low, he was just that good😎
That first one was a very smooth and comfortable landing for the passengers
I don't think that Asiana flight had a low approach. It was obviously ahead and thus probably it was low. I feel like the approach was perfect.
Beautiful video.
They almost recreated Asiana 214💀💀💀
2:45 I would go to that race only for that
This reminds me of when I went on holiday.
I was on a BA a320-200 and there was a321 landing parallel
Thanks for your sharing
OMG!! It was soooo low that it landed in the end! Was that intended?
asia almost nailed it perfectly... nothing too low
Looks spot on me! I used to live in San Francisco Bay Area for 20 years, I'm very familiar with that approach.
BRO when i went to san fransisco on plane i saw that exact same view and i clicked on this video because i knew from the thumbnail that this had to be SFO airport nice video also!
0:30 That plane reminds me of Asiana Airlines flight 213...
*214
@@Unknown_522 got it
0:21 landing for real almost together
Looks perfect to me. Very smooth, more should be like that.
My dad and I have the same color circle like yours.
Parallel approaches are cool. That 777 captain really squeaked it on.
Big rudder on the Hong Kong airlines landing 😐
I wouldn’t wanted to be in the back of that plane
2:54 anybody else see the helicopter in front of the nose, but 1000 feet up above 787
Yes! I think that helicopter pilot probably shit his pants.
that's a perfectly executed PRM approach on 28L + R at KSFO! 28L has a straight in ILS, while 28R has a 3°right of centerline offset and a >3° glideslope
Wrong, wrong and wrong. First, PRM approaches are no longer available at SFO. Even if they were, these are obviously visual approaches (clear blue sky) and PRM approaches would still have the airplanes staggered further apart. Both ILS's are straight down the runways at 284 degrees. 28L has a 2.85 degree glideslope while 28R has 3.0 degree glideslope. The 2.85 degree glideslope is why Aisiana looked lower...it's because he was and was supposed to be.
Silky smooth first landing !
That Hong Kong Airlines A330 looked like it was drifting for a few seconds there.
🎶DEJA VU!! 🚗
@@StephenHogan Never felt this much wind before. (sliding on concrete)
And now I know it's time to slow. (calling you)
And the surface is slippery. (drifting skills are leet)
It's so hard when I try to taxi. Whooooooa!
🤟😆🤟
I think you've become the best youtuber - not from reposting other people's aviation clips, but with false and misleading headlines. That's no easy feat, good job!
Asiana avoiding the SFO sea wall is genuinely newsworthy
I would love to see passenger video inside the Asiana flight split screened against this footage to see how gentle that landing actually was. Please @3 Minutes of Aviation if you can find this footage.
Now that's a butter landing if I ever did see one!
That plane from the first clip wasn't "too low". It wasn't any lower than the other plane (from which it was recorded).
Well, it WAS slightly lower but only because it was slightly ahead on descend. The second plane would be at the same altitude but like a second later.
You can see that their touchdowns were on the same point of their corresponding runways
Asiana and SFO is just a terrifying combination, just like Air Canada and well.. SFO
What a superb touchdown
I have been on that exact approach to SFO. I will admit it is unsettling to get so close to the water with no runway in sight, but then such a relief once the land shoots into frame from underneath.
So it wasn’t too low
We landed at SFO in a 737. We passed a lower flying 747 on our final approach.
However, by the time we were really close to landing, the 747 passed us, landing slightly ahead of us.
Very strange!
747 is heavier and has a higher landing speed than the 737
What he said☝
@@LuizHartkopf Not always. The 737-900 often has landing speeds higher than a 747.
@@jefftynan9274well it is a pencil after all
That building is as impressive as the 787 fly by. Love the use of LED's on buildings in Qatar and the UAE.
I watched full video.
You made my day.
Glad to hear, thank you!
@@3MinutesofAviation A cheap attention getting headline that has no foundation in truth and fact...
You should be ashamed of your pathetic standards that do not reflect the culture of professional AVIATION..
Honestly I'm just happy there wasn't a repeat of asiana airlines flight 214 (on the same airport too)
That first one was not Asiana 214 🤦♂️
Amazing similiar work by both pilots touching down probably within 100ft or so of eachother on the runways!
First video BUTTER LANDING BOTH BRAVO!!! 🙏🏼 BLESSINGS TO ALL AIRLINE PILOTS YOUR JOB, IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE NERVOUS... YOU ALL KEEP THE GOING THOUGH AND NEVER GIVE IN!!! NEVER LIME MY SISTER SAYS YOU CONTROL THE PLANE the PLANE DOES NOT CONTROL YOU!!! 🙏🏼🛫✈️💯
Though it was gonna be a recreation of Asiana 214 flight (the First one)