To ask those looking for a scholarship, it varies from country to country. I have heard that there are scholarships in Canada for Canadians. Other than that, check in your own country. Frankly, though, I'm very much out of touch with the primary training possibilities.
Asiana was just fine the whole time. The reason it looked lower is because it was farther ahead, so it had to be lower in order to make the touchdown zone, which it did.
The parallel approaches at SF require one airplane to be the lead plane, so the other aircraft can keep them in sight and maintain visual separation. Here the Asiana plane was ahead and lower so the Virgin America Airbus was following. Pretty impressive that the 777’s VREF is so close to the A319/320/321 (whatever Airbus model that was).
@@drpaine7428 You don't run out of runway if you land smoothly in the touchdown zone... You run out of runway by refusing to go around when you pass the touchdown zone.
I’ve definitely had a much “lower” landing at SFO. Coming in from Monterey in rough weather, at night, with heavy fog. Broke through the fog in time to see dark water right under the wing, gasp, and then hit tarmac, all in the span of a single second.
The problem is, a super low approach like that is not safe. I forget the exact reasons why but they need to be within the glide path or else there's various issues that could happen. Like if there was a sudden downward gust of wind, it's better to be higher up when the plane isn't over the runway.
Agreed. It might have been on the lower side (although I think visual parallax from the higher plane was more likely), but it was stabilised the whole way in and hit right on the aiming markers.
So I agree with most of the comments, he doesn't look low to me in fact he seems to be the same approach height as the plane where the video was taken. Looks like a beautiful approach to me.
Probably because the Asiana was just a couple of hundred feet in front and therefore lower. Is would say at the same distance to airport they probably had the same height.
@@Volvo_EG It’s not just perception. You are partly correct. But even when completely abeam, the 28R airplane is usually slightly higher than 28L traffic. This is because the 28L PAPI is set up at 2.85 degrees, 28R is set up for 3.00 degrees.
Yeah, had a similar experience flying into Dallas one time except that it was flight with about 60 drunken guy's from NYC on our way to see the Giants play the Cowboys. But is was funny as heck as they were all yelling and rooting for our plane to touch down first. Lol. 😂
I checked and "buttering the runway" is an expression ( love Urban Dictionary )...but before I checked, I thought of "Last Tango in Paris"/Maria Schneider....
The Asiana 777 landing 🛬 at SFO in video is just fine. That was how Asiana 214 was suppose to execute the landing 🛬 back in 2013, when it crashed 💥 landed 🛬 .
so you like threeways? I would rather have planes do their own thing in safe distance zones, and I'm sure they all did/would, but that's my ignorance/precaution talking to myself...
LOVED The Dual Landings at the very beginning! On a side note, I was sweating bullets not seeing your "Plane" on the Kiosks for Times of Video Arrivals in my TH-cam Mailbox!🤣 Glad you all made it safely! Cheers From The Clouds In Ohio To ALL Who Fly With 3 Minutes Of Aviation!
one day someone, if not me as i live in ATL, will get a three wide landing video - KATL has 3 Parallel landing runways. 9R/27L, 8L/26R and 10/28 you can see that on ADSB all the time as well.
I think you've become the best youtuber - not from reposting other people's aviation clips, but with false and misleading headlines. That's no easy feat, good job!
The approach into SFO is about as close us regular passengers will get to an aircraft carrier type landing. (Much larger scale at SFO.) Water, water, water, water, land and touchdown.
I actually think OAK just a handful of miles away is a better example. Just my own eyeballs, but the distance from water to runway threshold seems to be a few feet shorter (and it’s from both approaches , not just approaching 280*)
that's a perfectly executed PRM approach on 28L + R at KSFO! 28L has a straight in ILS, while 28R has a 3°right of centerline offset and a >3° glideslope
Wrong, wrong and wrong. First, PRM approaches are no longer available at SFO. Even if they were, these are obviously visual approaches (clear blue sky) and PRM approaches would still have the airplanes staggered further apart. Both ILS's are straight down the runways at 284 degrees. 28L has a 2.85 degree glideslope while 28R has 3.0 degree glideslope. The 2.85 degree glideslope is why Aisiana looked lower...it's because he was and was supposed to be.
2:15 As a pilot, we are not supposed to land with the “crab angle” like that. We’re supposed to put in the corrective rudder input (right rudder in this case) at the last moment. This is why, the sudden grab of the tires, and the top-over rolling force from the wind can do this.
Asiana approach is definitely too low. The aircraft should have passed the threshold at 50 feet for a stabilized approach. Watch the video again? Was that aircraft passing the threshold at 50 feet?? And also during the approach you can easily see the aircraft pitching up. That’s because it is too low and it tries to arrest the descent rate for not being extremely low. Just don’t pass your opinion if you are not an airline pilot
I've flown virtually every kind of approach and most of the time been able to hit the touchdown zone just right. What makes you question yourself is when you fly a text. Book picture perfect approach and completely mess that zone or land hard. Landings are the best reason to fly.
(B777 captain here) I normally hesitate to talk bad about colleagues. But the Hong Kong Airlines pilot unnecessarily applied too much right rudder after landing, and then tried to correct things with a huge rudder input to the left (into the wind -which you normally would never ever do!). Unfortunately it’s solely a case of pilot induced oscillations on the rollout. In fact, I’m quite surprised, that most comments were about the perfectly normal approach of Asiana to SFO instead.
Asiana was not “too low”…. The parallel aircraft was behind by enough distance that at normal descent rates the trailing aircraft would be about 75 ft higher, which it was.
That plane from the first clip wasn't "too low". It wasn't any lower than the other plane (from which it was recorded). Well, it WAS slightly lower but only because it was slightly ahead on descend. The second plane would be at the same altitude but like a second later. You can see that their touchdowns were on the same point of their corresponding runways
I have been on that exact approach to SFO. I will admit it is unsettling to get so close to the water with no runway in sight, but then such a relief once the land shoots into frame from underneath.
You really don't need misleading titles to get us to watch, in fact this title makes me NOT want to visit your videos again. Please stop doing this. Your content is good enough without bait for titles.
We landed at SFO in a 737. We passed a lower flying 747 on our final approach. However, by the time we were really close to landing, the 747 passed us, landing slightly ahead of us. Very strange!
I would love to see passenger video inside the Asiana flight split screened against this footage to see how gentle that landing actually was. Please @3 Minutes of Aviation if you can find this footage.
i've landed in sfo a million times and every single time i feel like i'm about to drop into the bay. it's just how you have to fly it. almost feels like the ground scoops up under you as you finally come in over the runway.
It looked fine to me. The plane looked rock solid, there was no uncontrolled movement or last minute adjustment and the plane touched down in the correct place. Great landing!
Asiana and SFO, the low approaches and everything. The bond is unreal
hahahaha yes
+ the same 777 type, being a 777-200
I hope they learned their lesson.
It got me clicken when I saw it
same *runway* as well = 28L
777 instructor here. The Asiana 777 looks to me to be on glideslope and actually touches down a little long.
Carpet cleaner here. You took the words right out of my mouth
777 fan here, do you know of any scholarships/sponsors willing to fund my dream to fly?
To ask those looking for a scholarship, it varies from country to country. I have heard that there are scholarships in Canada for Canadians. Other than that, check in your own country. Frankly, though, I'm very much out of touch with the primary training possibilities.
@@davidkeasal6542 noted🙏
video game player here, i could have landed in half the runway length.
Asiana and SFO have a.... uh... complicated relationship.
Especially in 777s
Dont really understand why they‘re not performing a simple ILS approach like everywhere else in the world… 🤷🏻♂️
Yes, Captains Win Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong can attest to that
@@waqasusmans and that Ho Lee Fuk pilot
@@waqasusmansdon't forget bang ding ow
People who know Asiana flight 214 💀
Bang ding ow 💀💀
Who doesn't know?
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@@planespotterronish👍
That's the first thing that came to my mind.
Asiana was just fine the whole time. The reason it looked lower is because it was farther ahead, so it had to be lower in order to make the touchdown zone, which it did.
SFO 28L also has a 2.85 degree glide slope instead of the normal 3.00 as on 28R.
I had to look again. That's what causes the illusion.
@@Daniel-go6ci great catch! That would make the other plane look even lower.
The parallel approaches at SF require one airplane to be the lead plane, so the other aircraft can keep them in sight and maintain visual separation. Here the Asiana plane was ahead and lower so the Virgin America Airbus was following. Pretty impressive that the 777’s VREF is so close to the A319/320/321 (whatever Airbus model that was).
Thank you!
That finnish man cursing about forgetting headphones at 2:40 😂
Lol
i speak finnish
1:43
The Asiana landing was buttery smooth, as if it was a challenge not to wake up the baby sleeping in row 20.
Nah, the baby was busy crying at the top of their lungs already due to air pressure changes.
smooth is not what you want out of a landing, that's how you run out of runway. You want the pilot to stick the landing at the beginning of the runway
@@drpaine7428 exactly!
@@drpaine7428 Exactamondo 💯
@@drpaine7428 You don't run out of runway if you land smoothly in the touchdown zone... You run out of runway by refusing to go around when you pass the touchdown zone.
Video title: Plane is too low!
First frame of the video: Actually it's perfect!
Didn't look to me like they were low but daaaaamn that was a smooth landing. I think taxiing to the gate was probably bumpier than that landing.
Greased it. Barely any tire smoke.
Southwest pilots take note!
@@alm4132 Southwest pilots don't have gear tilt and 12 wheels.
@@mr.verification9993 Got excuses though!!!
@@alm4132 It's not a plane meant to be buttered. There's a reason you're unemployed.
I’ve definitely had a much “lower” landing at SFO. Coming in from Monterey in rough weather, at night, with heavy fog. Broke through the fog in time to see dark water right under the wing, gasp, and then hit tarmac, all in the span of a single second.
Looked like a super smooth landing to me
The problem is, a super low approach like that is not safe. I forget the exact reasons why but they need to be within the glide path or else there's various issues that could happen. Like if there was a sudden downward gust of wind, it's better to be higher up when the plane isn't over the runway.
@@R2Bl3nd fair point!
@@R2Bl3nd Or engine failure/bird strike on final. If too low you may not reach the runway.
Agreed. It might have been on the lower side (although I think visual parallax from the higher plane was more likely), but it was stabilised the whole way in and hit right on the aiming markers.
(I’d rather have been on that plane than the second one 🤣)
So I agree with most of the comments, he doesn't look low to me in fact he seems to be the same approach height as the plane where the video was taken. Looks like a beautiful approach to me.
"Too low" is what happened on July 6, 2013. This was somewhere between "low" and "perfectly normal", probably closer to the latter.
Renember the number, 214……
0:16 remind me of a familiar tragedy…
lol
asiana flight 214?
That's so cool how the Asiana plane was lower in altitude the entire time yet they both touched down at the same time.
Probably because the Asiana was just a couple of hundred feet in front and therefore lower. Is would say at the same distance to airport they probably had the same height.
@@Volvo_EG It’s not just perception. You are partly correct. But even when completely abeam, the 28R airplane is usually slightly higher than 28L traffic. This is because the 28L PAPI is set up at 2.85 degrees, 28R is set up for 3.00 degrees.
Redwood Cactus Northwest 👍🏼
Yeah, had a similar experience flying into Dallas one time except that it was flight with about 60 drunken guy's from NYC on our way to see the Giants play the Cowboys. But is was funny as heck as they were all yelling and rooting for our plane to touch down first. Lol. 😂
@@Silo-Ren that sounds like the most epic flight ever lol.
as a pilot myself, that Asiana’s approach was perfectly fine
Nothing wrong with the Asiana approach. It's definitely not "too low".
Fantastic!
That wasn't refueling... that's how you get baby F-18s. Nature sure is amazing!
Don’t be ridiculous.
It s an F18 towing an other F18
@@Boss_Tanaka Next time don't park in the handicapped zone.
A hell of a lot cheaper too
lmao
Landing in SFO is always interesting because you feel like the plane is about to ditch in the water.
Funny, I never feel like that.
That was a buttery 777 landing!
Sensationalist/deceitful title for a perfect approach and landing!
Excellent clips! The first demonstrates buttering the runway, the second shows years of expertise, and the third displays precision flying.
Years of experience 😂😂😂 he absolutely butchered the landing and deceleration
I checked and "buttering the runway" is an expression ( love Urban Dictionary )...but before I checked, I thought of "Last Tango in Paris"/Maria Schneider....
Thanks I did them all
The Asiana 777 landing 🛬 at SFO in video is just fine. That was how Asiana 214 was suppose to execute the landing 🛬 back in 2013, when it crashed 💥 landed 🛬 .
Asiana flight was hella smooth. If I was a passenger on the row seats, I would've never known we had landed.
I don't think that Asiana flight had a low approach. It was obviously ahead and thus probably it was low. I feel like the approach was perfect.
I love being in a plane on SFO approach on a nice day. Always awesome to watch dual landings. Only thing better would be a triple wide at ATL..
We've got some triple wides in ATL. You don't want to be stuck in between them on a long flight.
the view at night is unreal also. Especially with a full moon on all the water
so you like threeways? I would rather have planes do their own thing in safe distance zones, and I'm sure they all did/would, but that's my ignorance/precaution talking to myself...
That was the smoothest landing anyone has ever made at SFO.
LOVED The Dual Landings at the very beginning! On a side note, I was sweating bullets not seeing your "Plane" on the Kiosks for Times of Video Arrivals in my TH-cam Mailbox!🤣 Glad you all made it safely! Cheers From The Clouds In Ohio To ALL Who Fly With 3 Minutes Of Aviation!
one day someone, if not me as i live in ATL, will get a three wide landing video - KATL has 3 Parallel landing runways. 9R/27L, 8L/26R and 10/28
you can see that on ADSB all the time as well.
@@CapStar362 Appreciate your response and heads up info CapStar! Cheers From The Concourse In COW-lumbus, Ohio MOO
That 777 buttered the landing - nice!
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't planes need to be low in order to land?
Me at first: Asiana 214?!
Same
Yu So Dum
Damn i think its the second same incident :v
Sorry, where was it low? It seemed like a good approach, and if anything it touched down late.
I think you've become the best youtuber - not from reposting other people's aviation clips, but with false and misleading headlines. That's no easy feat, good job!
The fact it's an Asiana 777 doing a low approach at SFO is... ironic to say the least.
Wait no no no no no I don’t like where this is going
@@AFootballFan10 Sum Ting Wong
It wasn't a low approach however.
@@starguy2718 Wi Tu Low
Ho Lee Fuk
Bang Ding Ow
@@n666eo The public eat up his videos.
0:38 flashbacks
The approach into SFO is about as close us regular passengers will get to an aircraft carrier type landing. (Much larger scale at SFO.) Water, water, water, water, land and touchdown.
Except for the sea wall.☹
I actually think OAK just a handful of miles away is a better example.
Just my own eyeballs, but the distance from water to runway threshold seems to be a few feet shorter (and it’s from both approaches , not just approaching 280*)
Which airlines was the low appraoch? You? Asiana was exactly on gilde path at this video. 100% touch down at touch down zone!
I love watching the parallel ILS into Atlanta. Looks pretty similar without the water
OMG!! It was soooo low that it landed in the end! Was that intended?
3:11min!!! Thank you for 11 more seconds of Aviation - we are back in business now 😁
that's a perfectly executed PRM approach on 28L + R at KSFO! 28L has a straight in ILS, while 28R has a 3°right of centerline offset and a >3° glideslope
Wrong, wrong and wrong. First, PRM approaches are no longer available at SFO. Even if they were, these are obviously visual approaches (clear blue sky) and PRM approaches would still have the airplanes staggered further apart. Both ILS's are straight down the runways at 284 degrees. 28L has a 2.85 degree glideslope while 28R has 3.0 degree glideslope. The 2.85 degree glideslope is why Aisiana looked lower...it's because he was and was supposed to be.
The 1st landing looks awesome! I couldn't have done any better!
(By the way I'm not pilot)
But do you play one on TV?
@@sanddabz5635 why yes, I do but tell anyone! Ha!
@@robertgriffin662
😂
2:15 As a pilot, we are not supposed to land with the “crab angle” like that. We’re supposed to put in the corrective rudder input (right rudder in this case) at the last moment. This is why, the sudden grab of the tires, and the top-over rolling force from the wind can do this.
The Asiana landing looked perfect!!
That first clip of parallel landings was sublime poetry in flight- ahhh! Thanks filmer, poster and hoster.
Love that approach into SFO.. double landed many times there.
I love how everyone’s talking about asiana
great filming by the passenger in the chase plane at SFO!
"Filming ?"....i wish film was used like back in the day, but i dont think so
time to retire that word i guess...
That wing strike landing looked like it was just dropping vertically, like a helicopter. Great angle.
that was a butter smooth landing at a normal height, i praise the pilots for that nice landing
Damn that asiana 777 had an absolute buttery smooth landing
Asiana approach is definitely too low. The aircraft should have passed the threshold at 50 feet for a stabilized approach. Watch the video again? Was that aircraft passing the threshold at 50 feet?? And also during the approach you can easily see the aircraft pitching up. That’s because it is too low and it tries to arrest the descent rate for not being extremely low. Just don’t pass your opinion if you are not an airline pilot
I've flown virtually every kind of approach and most of the time been able to hit the touchdown zone just right. What makes you question yourself is when you fly a text. Book picture perfect approach and completely mess that zone or land hard. Landings are the best reason to fly.
Everyone talking about the Asiana Airlines landing, but noone talking about that HK Airlines freak landing! That took really sick skills.
There was actually very little skill on display. That was pathetic.
@@lbowsk Landing safely is never ever pathetic.
(B777 captain here) I normally hesitate to talk bad about colleagues. But the Hong Kong Airlines pilot unnecessarily applied too much right rudder after landing, and then tried to correct things with a huge rudder input to the left (into the wind -which you normally would never ever do!). Unfortunately it’s solely a case of pilot induced oscillations on the rollout.
In fact, I’m quite surprised, that most comments were about the perfectly normal approach of Asiana to SFO instead.
Awesome. Really great clips. Thanks and thanks to those who captured.
Looks spot on me! I used to live in San Francisco Bay Area for 20 years, I'm very familiar with that approach.
1:57 - David Attenborough: "And here we see up in the sky two hornets performing a mating ritual midflight. Quite extraordinary."
0:48 BUTTER LANDING 1000
0:48 he didint land yet
At no time did that plane look to low to me🤷
3 Minutes of Aviation with 80% misleading titles
That wasn’t low, it was PERFECT
0:16 Asians 214 vibes
The title of this video is totally misleading as the 777-200 has a perfect approach into SFO.
Asiana was not “too low”…. The parallel aircraft was behind by enough distance that at normal descent rates the trailing aircraft would be about 75 ft higher, which it was.
Yep, ILS PRM approach. These videos are deceiving
@@sg-yq8pm another wonderful person who can’t argue facts so goes straight to name calling.
Actually, it’s not too low. As you might notice that aircraft is at approximately the same height as the airplane that it is being filmed from.
That plane from the first clip wasn't "too low". It wasn't any lower than the other plane (from which it was recorded).
Well, it WAS slightly lower but only because it was slightly ahead on descend. The second plane would be at the same altitude but like a second later.
You can see that their touchdowns were on the same point of their corresponding runways
You would’ve thought that Asiana 777 pilots would have learned their lesson about coming in too low at SFO after the…”oopsie-daisie”….💀
asia almost nailed it perfectly... nothing too low
That building is as impressive as the 787 fly by. Love the use of LED's on buildings in Qatar and the UAE.
He did not approach it too low, he was just that good😎
That F1 low pass was just the pilot wanting to see for himself that Alonso was on the podium!
2:45 I would go to that race only for that
I hate baity titles. "Plane approaches too low" but then in the video it says it wasn't too low...? Come on
That first one was a very smooth and comfortable landing for the passengers
I have been on that exact approach to SFO. I will admit it is unsettling to get so close to the water with no runway in sight, but then such a relief once the land shoots into frame from underneath.
They almost recreated Asiana 214💀💀💀
You really don't need misleading titles to get us to watch, in fact this title makes me NOT want to visit your videos again. Please stop doing this. Your content is good enough without bait for titles.
Asiana and SFO is just a terrifying combination, just like Air Canada and well.. SFO
That was a beautiful double formation landing.
Also, remembering when the remarkable thing about a Boeing flyby wasn't that nothing fell off!
Big rudder on the Hong Kong airlines landing 😐
I wouldn’t wanted to be in the back of that plane
That Asiana plane landed on the same runway as Asiana flight 214 which makes it even better!
0:30 That plane reminds me of Asiana Airlines flight 213...
*214
@@Unknown_522 got it
That was one of the smoothest boeing 777 landings I’ve ever seen!
We landed at SFO in a 737. We passed a lower flying 747 on our final approach.
However, by the time we were really close to landing, the 747 passed us, landing slightly ahead of us.
Very strange!
747 is heavier and has a higher landing speed than the 737
What he said☝
@@LuizHartkopf Not always. The 737-900 often has landing speeds higher than a 747.
@@jefftynan9274well it is a pencil after all
The Asiana approach is right on glide path. This is a clock bait title.
0:21 landing for real almost together
I thought planes have to be low in order to land? Idk maybe i had it all wrong
That first one was not Asiana 214 🤦♂️
When we saw the asiana 777, I'm sure we all thought the same thing.
0:08 Asiana 214 if it didnt go that low
On the first one I thought we would have a repeat of history 😂😅
lets not talk about what happened on that runway 10 years ago
Great shot of The Peninsula in the San Francisco Bay Area in that first video… The sun shines way more beautiful in California!
Though it was gonna be a recreation of Asiana 214 flight (the First one)
I would love to see passenger video inside the Asiana flight split screened against this footage to see how gentle that landing actually was. Please @3 Minutes of Aviation if you can find this footage.
i've landed in sfo a million times and every single time i feel like i'm about to drop into the bay. it's just how you have to fly it. almost feels like the ground scoops up under you as you finally come in over the runway.
Of course they are low altitude, that's how plane land
It's like making a video saying 'wow submarine sinking'.
bro that asiana tryna recreate asiana 214
It looked fine to me. The plane looked rock solid, there was no uncontrolled movement or last minute adjustment and the plane touched down in the correct place. Great landing!