Lots of people have gotten on to you for the other pronunciations, but I have also never heard "Seminole" pronounced "Sim-ee-nohl." Usually I hear it pronounced "Sim-ih-nohl" or "Sem-ih-nohl" although that second one is less common. I went to FSU, who are called the Seminoles (admittedly not the best source) but I have also lived in Florida my whole life (in or near the county named after the tribe) and even lived down near the Immokalee Reservation in South Florida for a few years. One of my students at the time was part Seminole and lived near the reservation and I am pretty sure he pronounced it "Sim-ih-nohl." However, you did pronounce Muskogee correctly, that is a word that I hear mispronounced a lot. Also, during the Trail of Tears segment you showed the Seminoles being relocated to Oklahoma. That is correct in that part of the Nation/Tribe did get relocated there but another portion (I think the larger portion at the time even though the portion in Oklahoma is larger now) was forced into central Florida and then south Florida. That was not part of the Trail of Tear but rather part of the Seminole Wars which is probably why you didn't directly show it, but I felt like it should be pointed out. There is actually a lot of tension between the part of the Nation that went to Oklahoma and the part that stayed in Florida, especially in regards to FSU. The Seminole Tribe of Florida has a very close relationship with the University and endorses its use of the name/symbol/mascot whereas the the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma is of the opinion that FSU should choose another mascot.
What is often forgotten: He was raised speaking native language, but he was also raised by his grandparents who was probably of a generation that could remember the initial invasions of people from the east against them and told Charles about it as a child. Imagine being Charles, from hearing those stories in ur own language to becoming the second most powerful man in that country of the stories. He was strongly influenced by them who encouraged him to become educated. In that sense he was raised as a child of those who had faced the attacks head on in their lifetime, from that to VP. Wonder how that felt when he was inaugurated.
@@tomtaylor5623 You're describing the appropriation of indigenous cultures that happened along side the genocides and persecution of said peoples. It wasn't appreciation, their actions and behaviours proved that to be fact.
@@yrobtsvt Obviously he was proud of who he was, but the 1920s were not a time when things like "the first non-white vice president" would be something the larger society would celebrate. When Harris was elected, the historic nature of her win was front page news. Curtis' heritage was not front page news when he was elected.
@@tomtaylor5623 oh boy you make it seem like it would somehow be "better" to participate in a European livestyle than in the native American traditions which were and are of course now hindered by the American history which hindered their lifestyle to a krass degree. Both lifestyles in themselves are totally fine and I am a happy European but do not pretend that one is better than the other or that native Americans are not in fact victims of euro-american expansion.
Having all this info in one place, on one video really helps the Native community. It provides history in context not often shared. I'm a tribal descendant and care that all our young people know their history and find value in their connection. I've watched many of your videos in different topics. Your work stands.
There are a lot of comments about how he "wasn't native enough" since he is majority ethnically european percentage wise. The thing is, he was raised by his maternal grandparents, grew up speaking the language of his mother's tribe, was legally enrolled in the tribe as well, grew up on the reservation, and overall spent most of his childhood with the native american side of his family. He was majority white ethnically but very native culturally. He was definitely native enough to not just be considered white only. He was mixed raced, and that is a big deal as a vice president. It is good to shine a light on this now because it wasnt at the time.
I have no problem with him being "native" enough. But calling someone like Curtis a POC is just silly Evergreen College bullshit. If race is a construct, then he was clearly included in the construct called "white".
Many tribes rely on Blood Quorum for being on the "rolls" or admitted into a tribe. Also a person is bi-racial not "mixed" race, which is offensive to many people.
2:20 Not only were there people there, he wasn’t even the first European, as the Vikings landed in Canada before him. And not only that, he didn’t even land on America, he landed in Hispaniola.
Actually the significance of Columbus stumbling upon the Caribbean islands is that it opened long-term continuous large-scale interaction between two hemispheres. So, yeah, it is still significant, even though he found it very late, after so many other groups of people, and by accident
America = the Americas, btw. "America" in the name "United States of America" means that the country is located on American continent, so it is still a reference to the Americas
I mean, there were a few Native Americans with European-style governments. The Haudenosaunee (aka the 5/6 Nations or the Iroquois Confederacy) have a government similar to the future EU with multiple nations sending representatives to a central confederation government, with an express goal of peace between their formerly warring nations.
@@injunsun Theres little evidence of democracy existing in their constitution from what ive read. The US constitution is based on enlightenment principles and compromise, though im sure there were was some native influence, directly or indirectly.
There was indeed a good deal of influence from the Iroquois in the Constitution. Several members of the tribe even were invited during its signing and/or part of its creation. As for democracy its entire goverment structure or at least the governing body resembles a similar structure to many elected bodies in officials were elected or choosen by there tribes leaders to then vote on affairs. Similarly to many democracies. Least from what I recall
@@forgetful9845 The tribes all have and had people knowing they had a say, if not a literal, physical vote. I should clarify, I didn't mean that there was zero European influence; I'm aware of The Enlightenment. What I intended was to explain that the system of how divided governance was implemented was almost directly borrowed from the Iroquois Articles of Confederation. The Enlightenment educated Europeans recognised a newer form of government that, in their opinion, seemed superior to the European, specifically the British form to which they were accustomed. Too bad they didn't also take in the Native idea of having two parties. Our "First Past the Post" method and only two parties insures specific social divisions will arise and be made prominent by such a system, as opposed to a multi-party, parliamentary system, which was reflected in the Clans of the Iroquois. The British lucked into multi-party, partly due to there already being numerous social divisions within British society. In the U.S., we failed that, because we started out with very similar subsets of mainly England, and the other religious zealots from other European nations. They may have ended up sending us their tired, poor, etc., but they started by sending us their religious weirdos, and that has truly screwed us.
I’ve always heard Potawatomi pronounced as paw-tuh-wah-toe-me. Also, with Osage, I’ve always heard it pronounced oh-say-j. Love the channel though and enjoy seeing a wider scope of information in an easier to understand presentation for visual learners. :)
@@UsefulCharts Hah I wouldn’t be surprised if the pronunciation was changed at some point in time either, and what I’ve been taught to say has just been wrong lol
@@UsefulCharts Yes you are wrong but that is okay. Unless you grew up as part of the tribes or in Oklahoma, no one in the State can pronounce the either. It makes national news fun to watch. Waves from Oklahoma.
How can there be a photo of Pawhuska if he died in 1809? They didnt have photography then. [EDIT: I see in another comment that it was a mistake and the photo is of his son Pawhuska II ]
Given your family tree, Charles Curtis was actually 68.5% White, not half. I know, semantics, but for the sake of accuracy. He was 68.5% European, presumably of that amount he was roughly 50% British and 18.5% French although I doubt his heritage was so clean cut. The remaining 31.5% would have been a mix of various Native American heritages.
@@Karin-fj3eu I guess the most correct definition would be Charles Curtis was mostly but not completely white. Btw Hitler considered Aryan those who were at least 87.5% (7/8) of Aryan ancestry, in the Spanish rule in the Americas it happened the same, one would needed to be at least 87.5% of white ancestry to be considered white. It's curious to know they weren't as harsh as some people think. I don't think they are really good examples of how to define people but hopefully this helped you
@@dallascutlass1811 exactly. he looks white, of course people can have more ethnic heritage and not wear it on their face. which is a part that matters since how you are perceived in the world (the states especially) can dictate how you're able to navigate the world. i'm sure there was little question, even in his time, of whether or not he was white
In the future can you do a similar video to your “Secret Dynasty” video where you track the matrilineal line. Can you do the same for all the us presidents. I have heard before that every single president is related on the mother’s side.
One interesting note for Obama's mother. Her dad's line, Bunch, is a "secret Negro" line, going back to a Black man whose last name was Punch. He changed it, married White, and his son married White, and within a couple generations, the descendants basically "forgot" they were part Black. Their Y haplogroup is straight up African, while their autosomal DNA is in most cases now entirely European.
I don't think Donald Trump's line crosses with other presidents at least in the US anyways. His family on both sides are recent immigrants. His paternal ancestry is German while his maternal ancestry is Scots Irish.
Sir, though this video was very accurate in what you had to say, as a person who was raised in Oklahoma, I must tell you that you butchered the Indian words you spoke! If you wish to learn the correct way to say them, contact me and I will be happy to assist you. Otherwise, great video.
@Bio Kimistry as I Cherokee I actually use ‘native’ a lot, I feel like it’s the easiest and most accurate word from the many words they give us haha. Far smaller of an issue to me that his pronunciation, I love this channel but every time he said “OH SAH GAY” part of me died inside.
@@akorn9943 I would not have known who he was referring to had he not highlighted it ...lol... although he did pronounce Muskogee correctly as some pronounce it as MUSK-O-GEE ...ROFL!
I'm from SW Michigan, where the Potawatami recently regained status land near Dowagiac, in Cass County. I've never heard their tribe pronounced as you have. It's "pah'-tah-WAH-tə-mee." Emphasis on the third syllable, not the fourth. And I have friends who are Osage. It's not how you pronounced it. It's "oh-SADZH." Sage, like the seasoning. You're trying too hard to make their names sound foreign based on spelling.
*FUN FACT:* Leona gave birth to a son named Charles "Charlie" Curtis Knight (1920-1968), who was the father of three children. The eldest, Webster (1943-2008), gave birth to three children; the middle, Steven (1944-1964), lost his life during the Vietnam War; and the youngest, William Maxwell (1952-2002), gave birth to two children.
I always wondered if that was the case. His facial features don't look like your typical person of European descent although his skin was indeed white.
Well, it definitely is kind of arbitrary sometimes, but I think the definition really is mainly based on who racists would discriminate against. And racists aren't well-known for their rationality, so it would include people who may be visibly white, but may have been descended from a POC, or other circumstance.
@@Bawhoppen very arbitrary. i think a better definition would be anyone who can claim the handicap reliably, there's not many racists, and racists is already vague, diverse and non ratified category, but the entire population is subject to the authority of social and legal commands and design that might call on the "protected class"/"person of colour" label
150+ years ago, in some areas of the United States, a person who was anything other than caucasian, and often as little as 1/4 or less of any non-caucasian race, would have *black" or "negro" listed on their birth certificate. So, as some have already suggested, it has to do with our country's racist past. From the perspective of the controlling race, it was all are nothing. You were either white, or you weren't.
@@jasonlarsen4945 And only Protestants were considered White at the time. That’s why Irish people, Italians, and Poles were marginalized back then - they were Catholic and thus weren’t considered White.
Great video! This reminds me of another historic figure Charles Joseph Bonaparte, a descendant of Napoleon, who was the 46th Attorney General and founder of the Bureau of Investigation that would eventually becomes the FBI :)
@@francesgardner7070 While Colonialism may use Capitalistic measures (conquering lands for capital) they are not the same thing. In other words, just because lands are appropriated by force doesn't mean they are a capitalistic system. The very redistributing of lands is a Communistic system. The conquering of lands may be used for capital (Capitalistic) or may be used for redistribution (Communistic).
It’s literally not. The free exchange of goods and services is the basic structure of capitalism. As soon as force is introduced, it’s not capitalism in any real sense. Colonialism went hand in hand with mercantilism, which is not an example of capitalism.
@@francesgardner7070 Capitalism exists depending on your definition, from the 17th/18th or 19th century. Colonization has existed for millennia, and also in Communist countries like the Soviet Union. So they are not necessarily linked.
@@coe3408 I was thinking about these replies a few days ago. Communism also uses capital (money) to bring about its means but we wouldn't consider Communism to be Capitalistic. So just because a system uses capital that doesn't make it Capitalism.
There's actually a very lively debate around the Dawes act. If you ever do another discussion style video, I would recommend you touch on it a little more and why there was actually some desire for allotment among native americans as well and how the Curtiss act started and evolved as you touched on in this video. It actually butts up against the question of the freedmen (former slaves of Native Americans) slightly as well, which is a topic brought up today occasionally due to the George Floyd protests.
What is the photo used for Pawhuska "White Hair"? It's obviously not the man himself, since he died before the oldest remaining photos. Is it a descendant or something?
@@UsefulCharts I am so proud of you just walking around the comments apologising for the pictures and misspelling the names. You are so endearing and I love you take it seriously. Great video and maybe start looking up pronunciations just to give future you a rest in the comments. Thanks for being so educational!
I saw his grave a couple of weeks ago. I was visiting the Topeka Cemetery to see the grave of one set of my g-g-g-grandparents, and his grave is not far from them.
I feel like he should be atleast mentioned. Growing up i’ve always heard about Hoover and the great depression, but never once anything positive was said and never once was vice president curtis ever mentioned. pretty much no one, Even civil rights activists ever mention Charles Curtis. Even if he was VP during some of the most difficult times in our history, I still feel like he should be brought up especially in schools as he was the first vice president to break the colour barrier even with the amount of racism there was in the 1920s.
Native American includes north and south America. I have heard my friends and their families refer to themselves In one of three ways their specific tribe , Indian, or American Indian. Besides what would you call anyone born in the US if not native American.
they call them indigenas in south america/ spanish/portuguese speak america. if foreign aboriginals want to complicate a very understood term for indians with America's/USA's borders, then we will use the term American Indians, as America is how our country is known, if that bothers you pedants, then just use First Americans. Brazilian indians are not entitled to American indian benefits. They need to take that up with Brasilia, not Washington. Same goes for the mexican indians.
To be fair in my opinion it is rather non sensical to celebrate a vice president skin colour as it doesn't show anything but his/hers race, forgetting about their merits and their personality.
@@diprogamer3294 You could make the same argument about 'Native American'. In fact, taking all this to a logical conclusion, one could argue that all such categorizations are dubiously meaningful at best and are thus not really worth bringing up at all.
Yes the 'sage' in Osage is pronounced just like the herb. Also, I've always heard 'pot-ah-WAH-tah-me'...and of course Wabash is like Wabash Cannonball, "bash" like in "bashfull". BTW his ancestry wasn't really secret, I've heard of it before. A lot of Americans have native ancestry that you might not expect, like Chuck Berry for example.
Things like the census are always confusing for latinos. Am I white and native American? I've never had to do the census, but we did a survey like this in school. There was a "are you hispanic" question, but hispanic wasn't an option in the previous "what race are you" question.
@@news_internationale2035 fairly certain latino almost never refers to french or italians. I think something like Iberian would be mire appropriate seeing the use of the word, its a very weird word anyways
@@news_internationale2035 England didn't exist at the time of Roman conquest. Britain was populated by native Celtic Brittonic tribes, after whom it was named. AFTER the Romans withdrew, Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Frisians from the continent started to spread through Britain. There are known dates of conquest by Anglo-Saxons for every place and every city in modern England, from the 5th century. In the end Brittonic languages and culture were displaced and survived only in Wales, Cornwall and Cumbria. Anglia is also a peninsula between Germany and Denmark, that is where Angles came from. Saxony - name of several provinces in Germany. Jutland - name of a large peninsula which makes most of modern Denmark. Frisia/Friesland - a province in the Netherlands
The US census is such a joke, honestly. It is very lacking and also uses terms like "Hispanic/Latino" to refer to someone's race when these terms aren't meant to describe a race, but rather the cultural and linguistic background of a person, regardless of their skin tone... For those of us who are mixed race (like most in Latin America), they should add the option "mixed race" with this and this skin tone as secondary options to be more specific. And if the want to dive into what part of the planet is your heritage (culture and language(s) ) from, THEN use these terms like "Hispanic/Latino" from these and these countries. It would work better and be more clearer for everyone, actually. 👍🏻
Fact my mom born in Africa they have only Black/African American which shows America don’t care about your culture but what category can they put you in.
Very interesting. Rev Isaac McCoy shows up in my family history. His role in the relocation of indigenous people started because of a live for the people he served, and a wish for them to live somewhere in safety. He was also tirelessly involved in teaching them the Christian religion, and helping them establish their place a more integrated society. His first church pastorate here, in southern Indiana, included folks of color as members, including some of the native Americans living in the area. A black man, Mr. Morris, was one of the founding members of the church. (Mariah Creek Baptist), in the very early 1800s. Thanks for your informative "trees". I enjoy each one.
Upvote for mentioning Arthur St.Clair's defeat at the Battle of the Wabash ! NB One of St.Clair's main (female-line) descendants married a distant (paternal/male-line) cousin of Lt-Col. George Armstrong Custer !
Area of greatest linguistic diversity, does that also include tribal diversity? As an example some linguistic diversity doesn't necessarily mean culture, ethnicity and traditional or other differences to a tribe, sub-clans for example(The Kalenjin or The Mijikenda).
Awesome detailed breakdown, I’m Puerto Rican with 16% of my blood Taino Indian who were Arawak descending from South America. So great to see the North American breakdown as so many were forgotten after the white european genocide in the north.
Can you do a family tree of Turk the son of Iafes?it will be great to see his family tree today,we know the fact that Turk had 4 sons,his oldest son was appointed to rule after the death of Turk,his name was Tutek.
My apologies: Osage should be pronounced Oh-Sayj. And the photo of Pawhuska is actually that of his son, Pawhuska II.
Lots of people have gotten on to you for the other pronunciations, but I have also never heard "Seminole" pronounced "Sim-ee-nohl." Usually I hear it pronounced "Sim-ih-nohl" or "Sem-ih-nohl" although that second one is less common. I went to FSU, who are called the Seminoles (admittedly not the best source) but I have also lived in Florida my whole life (in or near the county named after the tribe) and even lived down near the Immokalee Reservation in South Florida for a few years. One of my students at the time was part Seminole and lived near the reservation and I am pretty sure he pronounced it "Sim-ih-nohl." However, you did pronounce Muskogee correctly, that is a word that I hear mispronounced a lot.
Also, during the Trail of Tears segment you showed the Seminoles being relocated to Oklahoma. That is correct in that part of the Nation/Tribe did get relocated there but another portion (I think the larger portion at the time even though the portion in Oklahoma is larger now) was forced into central Florida and then south Florida. That was not part of the Trail of Tear but rather part of the Seminole Wars which is probably why you didn't directly show it, but I felt like it should be pointed out. There is actually a lot of tension between the part of the Nation that went to Oklahoma and the part that stayed in Florida, especially in regards to FSU. The Seminole Tribe of Florida has a very close relationship with the University and endorses its use of the name/symbol/mascot whereas the the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma is of the opinion that FSU should choose another mascot.
Pronunciation can be difficult, thanks for the correction
You need to do Java/Majapahit king lineage. It is interesting.
Could you do a video about the succession to the throne of Saudi - Arabia ?? I looked it up but its very confusing. Love your video's man!
Not sure about Potawatomi, but in Wisconsin right or wrong, we pronounce it POT-ah-watt-uh-me.
What is often forgotten: He was raised speaking native language, but he was also raised by his grandparents who was probably of a generation that could remember the initial invasions of people from the east against them and told Charles about it as a child. Imagine being Charles, from hearing those stories in ur own language to becoming the second most powerful man in that country of the stories. He was strongly influenced by them who encouraged him to become educated. In that sense he was raised as a child of those who had faced the attacks head on in their lifetime, from that to VP. Wonder how that felt when he was inaugurated.
To me he was ingrained in the culture
He was farm from native. He was a traitor & deserves nothing but to be remembered as such
Great to collaborate with you again. hee hee. Oh and fun fact, I was born in Topeka, where Charles Curtis used to live!
@OxTail Fish I've been aware of that city's existence.😎
Mr. Beat is getting around...
And where he is buried! I'm from Kansas too (Overland Park area)
Love the content! That’s so cool y’all collaborated on this! I’m from Olathe :) I think my friend Brendan from Shawnee knows you.
@@kotaowens6978 Hi Grant!!
Little did Charles Curtis and Estelle Griswold know they would be linked together in this way.
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Hello sir I love your videos because I love history
Charles and who
Course back in those days this fact would have been considered shameful, which is probably why it’s not more well-known today.
Great to see you here! Huge fan and long-time subscriber
from Wikipedia: "Curtis decorated his office with Native American artifacts and posed for pictures by wearing Indian headdresses"
@@tomtaylor5623 You're describing the appropriation of indigenous cultures that happened along side the genocides and persecution of said peoples. It wasn't appreciation, their actions and behaviours proved that to be fact.
@@yrobtsvt Obviously he was proud of who he was, but the 1920s were not a time when things like "the first non-white vice president" would be something the larger society would celebrate. When Harris was elected, the historic nature of her win was front page news. Curtis' heritage was not front page news when he was elected.
@@tomtaylor5623 oh boy you make it seem like it would somehow be "better" to participate in a European livestyle than in the native American traditions which were and are of course now hindered by the American history which hindered their lifestyle to a krass degree. Both lifestyles in themselves are totally fine and I am a happy European but do not pretend that one is better than the other or that native Americans are not in fact victims of euro-american expansion.
Having all this info in one place, on one video really helps the Native community. It provides history in context not often shared. I'm a tribal descendant and care that all our young people know their history and find value in their connection. I've watched many of your videos in different topics. Your work stands.
Remember him from old version of Kaiserreich, in fact I think most of my knowledge of US politician from 1930's come from there
That’s where I learned about him too. Crazy how video games can teach
@@ADCD-dj8gz Hoi4 and Eu4 have taught me more about history than School ever did.
SAME LOL. The Great Compromiser shall live in our hearts.
@@sovietslug8699 to true
how did you get a photograph for a person dead by 1809?
Time travel.
Seriously though. My mistake. The photo is actually of his son, Pawhuska II.
Paintings were used.
@@UsefulCharts time travel?
Lol
Well, technically Trump was the first president who was the color orange.
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Classic
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Fun fact: Trump is the first president to have no ancestors born on or living on this continent before the US civil war
One thing useful about living in Oklahoma nearly all my life is I know how to properly pronounce all these native words. XD
Bro I'm from Oklahoma too and I still confuse chickasaw with Chickasha
@@danielnilson6115 It’s Potawatomi that always gets me LOL
same with washington bro! puyallup, quinalt, skykomish, snoqualmie, etc got me primed for this
@@abaddon2148 Not gonna lie I have no idea how to pronounce some of those!
There are a lot of comments about how he "wasn't native enough" since he is majority ethnically european percentage wise. The thing is, he was raised by his maternal grandparents, grew up speaking the language of his mother's tribe, was legally enrolled in the tribe as well, grew up on the reservation, and overall spent most of his childhood with the native american side of his family. He was majority white ethnically but very native culturally. He was definitely native enough to not just be considered white only. He was mixed raced, and that is a big deal as a vice president. It is good to shine a light on this now because it wasnt at the time.
I have no problem with him being "native" enough. But calling someone like Curtis a POC is just silly Evergreen College bullshit. If race is a construct, then he was clearly included in the construct called "white".
Many tribes rely on Blood Quorum for being on the "rolls" or admitted into a tribe. Also a person is bi-racial not "mixed" race, which is offensive to many people.
2:20 Not only were there people there, he wasn’t even the first European, as the Vikings landed in Canada before him. And not only that, he didn’t even land on America, he landed in Hispaniola.
Actually the significance of Columbus stumbling upon the Caribbean islands is that it opened long-term continuous large-scale interaction between two hemispheres. So, yeah, it is still significant, even though he found it very late, after so many other groups of people, and by accident
America = the Americas, btw. "America" in the name "United States of America" means that the country is located on American continent, so it is still a reference to the Americas
He did land on the American continent, going to Venuzuela and Nicaragua.
America is from North America to South America and the Caribbean
My grandmother saw the 1932 Olympics as a 12-year-old girl with her reporter father, who covered the Games.
I mean, there were a few Native Americans with European-style governments. The Haudenosaunee (aka the 5/6 Nations or the Iroquois Confederacy) have a government similar to the future EU with multiple nations sending representatives to a central confederation government, with an express goal of peace between their formerly warring nations.
The Iroquois Confederation are from whom our Constitution was modeled. They weren't using "European style," they did this on their own.
@@injunsun Theres little evidence of democracy existing in their constitution from what ive read. The US constitution is based on enlightenment principles and compromise, though im sure there were was some native influence, directly or indirectly.
There was indeed a good deal of influence from the Iroquois in the Constitution. Several members of the tribe even were invited during its signing and/or part of its creation.
As for democracy its entire goverment structure or at least the governing body resembles a similar structure to many elected bodies in officials were elected or choosen by there tribes leaders to then vote on affairs. Similarly to many democracies. Least from what I recall
@@injunsun exactly it's not european style government it's just Native American government.
@@forgetful9845 The tribes all have and had people knowing they had a say, if not a literal, physical vote. I should clarify, I didn't mean that there was zero European influence; I'm aware of The Enlightenment. What I intended was to explain that the system of how divided governance was implemented was almost directly borrowed from the Iroquois Articles of Confederation. The Enlightenment educated Europeans recognised a newer form of government that, in their opinion, seemed superior to the European, specifically the British form to which they were accustomed. Too bad they didn't also take in the Native idea of having two parties. Our "First Past the Post" method and only two parties insures specific social divisions will arise and be made prominent by such a system, as opposed to a multi-party, parliamentary system, which was reflected in the Clans of the Iroquois. The British lucked into multi-party, partly due to there already being numerous social divisions within British society. In the U.S., we failed that, because we started out with very similar subsets of mainly England, and the other religious zealots from other European nations. They may have ended up sending us their tired, poor, etc., but they started by sending us their religious weirdos, and that has truly screwed us.
Would love to see more native family trees
Have I been mispronouncing potowatomi my whole life? I'm legitimately curious if the pronunciation I learned in michigan is wrong
Right! I’m from Michigan and that’s not how anyone says it lol...I’ve been lied to my whole life
I'm awful at pronunciation so I think it's fair to say that you are correct and I am wrong 🙂
I’ve always heard Potawatomi pronounced as paw-tuh-wah-toe-me. Also, with Osage, I’ve always heard it pronounced oh-say-j.
Love the channel though and enjoy seeing a wider scope of information in an easier to understand presentation for visual learners. :)
@@UsefulCharts Hah I wouldn’t be surprised if the pronunciation was changed at some point in time either, and what I’ve been taught to say has just been wrong lol
@@UsefulCharts Yes you are wrong but that is okay. Unless you grew up as part of the tribes or in Oklahoma, no one in the State can pronounce the either. It makes national news fun to watch. Waves from Oklahoma.
Wow!! My Mothers heritage was Kaw Pa.. I never believed her until now. .Thank You!
Thank you for this most informative and well documented video.
How can there be a photo of Pawhuska if he died in 1809? They didnt have photography then. [EDIT: I see in another comment that it was a mistake and the photo is of his son Pawhuska II ]
Given your family tree, Charles Curtis was actually 68.5% White, not half. I know, semantics, but for the sake of accuracy. He was 68.5% European, presumably of that amount he was roughly 50% British and 18.5% French although I doubt his heritage was so clean cut. The remaining 31.5% would have been a mix of various Native American heritages.
That's why I find it odd to call him non-white when he's mostly white over anything else, I mean poc sure I guess but non-white?
@@Karin-fj3eu I guess the most correct definition would be Charles Curtis was mostly but not completely white. Btw Hitler considered Aryan those who were at least 87.5% (7/8) of Aryan ancestry, in the Spanish rule in the Americas it happened the same, one would needed to be at least 87.5% of white ancestry to be considered white. It's curious to know they weren't as harsh as some people think. I don't think they are really good examples of how to define people but hopefully this helped you
@@Karin-fj3eu white dna is recessive so it’s irrelevant when mixed
He was a white guy. Hispanics of the Southwest to Texas have more native blood then him.
@@dallascutlass1811 exactly.
he looks white, of course people can have more ethnic heritage and not wear it on their face. which is a part that matters since how you are perceived in the world (the states especially) can dictate how you're able to navigate the world. i'm sure there was little question, even in his time, of whether or not he was white
This Channel should have atleast 50 Million Subz!!
I think it's cool to have a Native American President
The US is finally getting it's first Native American Cabinet Member!
ooooh this is gonna be a good one bc ive never heard of this man
Didn’t know about this, thanks for the info.
In the future can you do a similar video to your “Secret Dynasty” video where you track the matrilineal line. Can you do the same for all the us presidents. I have heard before that every single president is related on the mother’s side.
One interesting note for Obama's mother. Her dad's line, Bunch, is a "secret Negro" line, going back to a Black man whose last name was Punch. He changed it, married White, and his son married White, and within a couple generations, the descendants basically "forgot" they were part Black. Their Y haplogroup is straight up African, while their autosomal DNA is in most cases now entirely European.
I don't think Donald Trump's line crosses with other presidents at least in the US anyways. His family on both sides are recent immigrants. His paternal ancestry is German while his maternal ancestry is Scots Irish.
@@lightyagami3492I learn something new everyday. I always thought Trump's maternal line was pig and paternal line was jackass.
Material common ancestry! Correct you are....all the way back to Constantine....and his female descendants.
@@Account-jn7xu All but Kennedy and POTUS #8 are descended from king john
Sir, though this video was very accurate in what you had to say, as a person who was raised in Oklahoma, I must tell you that you butchered the Indian words you spoke! If you wish to learn the correct way to say them, contact me and I will be happy to assist you. Otherwise, great video.
Im from Wisconsin and when he said Potawotomi i had to cringe a little. (As i spelled that horribly wrong)
@Bio Kimistry as I Cherokee I actually use ‘native’ a lot, I feel like it’s the easiest and most accurate word from the many words they give us haha. Far smaller of an issue to me that his pronunciation, I love this channel but every time he said “OH SAH GAY” part of me died inside.
@@akorn9943 I would not have known who he was referring to had he not highlighted it ...lol... although he did pronounce Muskogee correctly as some pronounce it as MUSK-O-GEE ...ROFL!
Useful Charts already modernized his graphics 😍😍😍
Love it! 💯💯💯
This was so much more interesting then i expected. Thank you
I'm from SW Michigan, where the Potawatami recently regained status land near Dowagiac, in Cass County. I've never heard their tribe pronounced as you have. It's "pah'-tah-WAH-tə-mee." Emphasis on the third syllable, not the fourth. And I have friends who are Osage. It's not how you pronounced it. It's "oh-SADZH." Sage, like the seasoning. You're trying too hard to make their names sound foreign based on spelling.
I think he's trying to purposely mislead us.
The mix of IPA and english spelling is killing me!
Another important historical info well researched and written by Useful Charts! Kudos!
I know this is a weird request but could you do a Harry Potter family tree video?
I’d love this!
*FUN FACT:* Leona gave birth to a son named Charles "Charlie" Curtis Knight (1920-1968), who was the father of three children. The eldest, Webster (1943-2008), gave birth to three children; the middle, Steven (1944-1964), lost his life during the Vietnam War; and the youngest, William Maxwell (1952-2002), gave birth to two children.
Also, I love your diversification of your videos and content! Great work!
Please do a video on kings and queens of navarre (because you didn't did it on your Spanish monarchs video)
Love your family trees, you should look into Dwight Eisenhower! I believe his mom was biracial too!
I always wondered if that was the case. His facial features don't look like your typical person of European descent although his skin was indeed white.
@@lightyagami3492 man, he looks Scandinavian to me.
Eisenhower's ancestral lines are German, Swiss-German, Swiss-French, and distantly English.
It clear Eisenhower had Africans ancestry. It visible in is face
@@dall9329 Brian Cox, an English scientist, looks like an east Asian -it doesn't mean he has any recent east Asian ancestry.
Just discovered your channel, it’s great subbed. Thanks
The american definitions of "Person of Color" are quite stretched
Well, it definitely is kind of arbitrary sometimes, but I think the definition really is mainly based on who racists would discriminate against. And racists aren't well-known for their rationality, so it would include people who may be visibly white, but may have been descended from a POC, or other circumstance.
@@Bawhoppen very arbitrary. i think a better definition would be anyone who can claim the handicap reliably, there's not many racists, and racists is already vague, diverse and non ratified category, but the entire population is subject to the authority of social and legal commands and design that might call on the "protected class"/"person of colour" label
150+ years ago, in some areas of the United States, a person who was anything other than caucasian, and often as little as 1/4 or less of any non-caucasian race, would have *black" or "negro" listed on their birth certificate.
So, as some have already suggested, it has to do with our country's racist past. From the perspective of the controlling race, it was all are nothing. You were either white, or you weren't.
@@jasonlarsen4945 And only Protestants were considered White at the time. That’s why Irish people, Italians, and Poles were marginalized back then - they were Catholic and thus weren’t considered White.
@@EnigmaticLucas W.A.S.P. culture is deeply embedded in this country. It's time for it to die.
Thank you for your research. This was very interesting. I do appreciate your channel 💜
I love how you make your charts
Yay I’m kinda early for once oh and btw I love you Greek god family tree that’s my favorite video
Not early
Best intro in TH-cam
Charles Curtis is not half NA he is 1/4 NA or castizo. 2 halves don't make a whole as Richard Pryor would say. EDIT ... more like 3/8 NA.
Actually even closer than that. He's 7/16 NA, 9/16 White. 44%/56% split is for simplicities sake half Native American.
More than any of you turkeys
Great video! This reminds me of another historic figure Charles Joseph Bonaparte, a descendant of Napoleon, who was the 46th Attorney General and founder of the Bureau of Investigation that would eventually becomes the FBI :)
He was a relative and great nephew of Napoleon, not a descendant.
13:15 Appropriating property by force and then redistributing it to different people is not an example of “a capitalist system”.
It literally is?? It’s colonialism and capitalism and colonialism go hand in hand
@@francesgardner7070 While Colonialism may use Capitalistic measures (conquering lands for capital) they are not the same thing. In other words, just because lands are appropriated by force doesn't mean they are a capitalistic system. The very redistributing of lands is a Communistic system. The conquering of lands may be used for capital (Capitalistic) or may be used for redistribution (Communistic).
It’s literally not. The free exchange of goods and services is the basic structure of capitalism. As soon as force is introduced, it’s not capitalism in any real sense. Colonialism went hand in hand with mercantilism, which is not an example of capitalism.
@@francesgardner7070 Capitalism exists depending on your definition, from the 17th/18th or 19th century. Colonization has existed for millennia, and also in Communist countries like the Soviet Union. So they are not necessarily linked.
@@coe3408 I was thinking about these replies a few days ago. Communism also uses capital (money) to bring about its means but we wouldn't consider Communism to be Capitalistic. So just because a system uses capital that doesn't make it Capitalism.
Blessed Charles Curtis! Second Civil War averted!
Yes, it is a Kaiserreich reference.
But is it really worth it when you avert the Second Civil War? 👀
@@siftervinnie2inNFS ehhh I prefer the Pacific States...or McArthur.
Gotta maintain the Union 🤠
Very interesting... I really enjoy your channel
Oh wow..this was very very interesting..thank u for posting this
This is amazing. I love this
I remembered that Charles Curtis was the 31st vice president from 1929-1933 he was Herbert Hoover's vice president
Do more family trees of ancient kings like China and the Seleucid dynasty. Also do the Trojan war family tree on that ancient history chart.
Can you do a video on the family tree of the great Native American war chief Crasy horse
There's actually a very lively debate around the Dawes act. If you ever do another discussion style video, I would recommend you touch on it a little more and why there was actually some desire for allotment among native americans as well and how the Curtiss act started and evolved as you touched on in this video. It actually butts up against the question of the freedmen (former slaves of Native Americans) slightly as well, which is a topic brought up today occasionally due to the George Floyd protests.
Bravo et merci.
I like your videos
What is the photo used for Pawhuska "White Hair"? It's obviously not the man himself, since he died before the oldest remaining photos. Is it a descendant or something?
Yeah. I make a mistake. It's his son.
@@UsefulCharts I am so proud of you just walking around the comments apologising for the pictures and misspelling the names. You are so endearing and I love you take it seriously. Great video and maybe start looking up pronunciations just to give future you a rest in the comments. Thanks for being so educational!
I saw his grave a couple of weeks ago. I was visiting the Topeka Cemetery to see the grave of one set of my g-g-g-grandparents, and his grave is not far from them.
Extremely interesting. Great video!
Brilliant video :)
Excellent! Thanks!!
Almost everything in this video was new to me. Very educational, thank you.
His mom was 75% native and 25% French
That was one of the great ones CHARLES CURTIS COOL
Ayyee, someone didn't forget Curtis
Thanks for the video. Very interesting.
I was always taught "OSAGE" was pronounced "oh-SAYJ". Was i taught incorrectly??? I'm honestly asking. I'm older than dirt so it's been a while. LoL
You're probably right. I suck at pronunciation.
No, you are correct. It’s pronounced incorrectly in this video.
I feel like he should be atleast mentioned. Growing up i’ve always heard about Hoover and the great depression, but never once anything positive was said and never once was vice president curtis ever mentioned. pretty much no one, Even civil rights activists ever mention Charles Curtis. Even if he was VP during some of the most difficult times in our history, I still feel like he should be brought up especially in schools as he was the first vice president to break the colour barrier even with the amount of racism there was in the 1920s.
Very interesting stuff, I had no idea Charles Curtis was from Native American decent
Matt are you making a video on Asian crowns.(Please say yes)
Yes. No date yet tho.
Cool
As a Native, Wyandotte, I thank you for doing a video on our history and something not talked about. Curtis is quite the controversial figure for us.
I was always told that Osage was pronounced Oh-Sage.
it is he's pronouncing it wrong
Unity in diversity
@Odi oh please
Native American includes north and south America. I have heard my friends and their families refer to themselves In one of three ways their specific tribe , Indian, or American Indian. Besides what would you call anyone born in the US if not native American.
they call them indigenas in south america/ spanish/portuguese speak america. if foreign aboriginals want to complicate a very understood term for indians with America's/USA's borders, then we will use the term American Indians, as America is how our country is known, if that bothers you pedants, then just use First Americans. Brazilian indians are not entitled to American indian benefits. They need to take that up with Brasilia, not Washington. Same goes for the mexican indians.
very interesting you do good work
i would love to see a family tree of Thomas Jefferson and Dwight Eisenhower. i've heard Jefferson had native ancestry too.
Oh my goodness, I grew up in Pawhuska, OK. I could spell Native before I could English.
Which laguage did you speak, and do you still speak it?
@@kornaes Osage
UsefulCharts: this video is a collaboration with Mr. Beat
Me: MrBeast???
Matt, where did you get the map used about 3:21? I would like to get a copy somehow.
I made it. Will share it on Twitter tomorrow.
So he's like 15% french... i see.
and 3/8th NA.
Wait, there were non-White vice presidents before Kamala?
Always has been
Yes. More than you would realize.
Yes.
To be fair in my opinion it is rather non sensical to celebrate a vice president skin colour as it doesn't show anything but his/hers race, forgetting about their merits and their personality.
@@joao.fenix1473 that's exactly my thoughts on the matter.
2:38 the term Indian is also still used as it stuck with some natives
It’s rather strange hearing different pronunciations of some native names.
Oo, is it possible to buy the map of the Native American areas?
nice more native stuff and Irish stuff too.
It feels so weird how this is such a big deal to US people when over here basically every president has native american ancestry (and some, african).
It's not accurate to says he's 'non-white'. He's as white as he is Native American.
well, "white race" doesn't even exist as an ethnic group, so you could say northwestern european and native american
@@diprogamer3294 You could make the same argument about 'Native American'. In fact, taking all this to a logical conclusion, one could argue that all such categorizations are dubiously meaningful at best and are thus not really worth bringing up at all.
@@patavinity1262 lol it's just that slavs, germanics and latins are different peoples, not "white race"
@@diprogamer3294 And you could sub-divide all other 'races' in the same way. None of these categorizations have any objective validity.
@@diprogamer3294 slavs, germanics, and latins are all white
Yes the 'sage' in Osage is pronounced just like the herb. Also, I've always heard 'pot-ah-WAH-tah-me'...and of course Wabash is like Wabash Cannonball, "bash" like in "bashfull". BTW his ancestry wasn't really secret, I've heard of it before. A lot of Americans have native ancestry that you might not expect, like Chuck Berry for example.
this is timely because of Nyland become secretary of the interior will be interesting how she will handle that OK native land issue
no pdf for this one?
Things like the census are always confusing for latinos. Am I white and native American? I've never had to do the census, but we did a survey like this in school. There was a "are you hispanic" question, but hispanic wasn't an option in the previous "what race are you" question.
@@news_internationale2035 fairly certain latino almost never refers to french or italians. I think something like Iberian would be mire appropriate seeing the use of the word, its a very weird word anyways
@@news_internationale2035 England didn't exist at the time of Roman conquest. Britain was populated by native Celtic Brittonic tribes, after whom it was named. AFTER the Romans withdrew, Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Frisians from the continent started to spread through Britain. There are known dates of conquest by Anglo-Saxons for every place and every city in modern England, from the 5th century. In the end Brittonic languages and culture were displaced and survived only in Wales, Cornwall and Cumbria.
Anglia is also a peninsula between Germany and Denmark, that is where Angles came from. Saxony - name of several provinces in Germany. Jutland - name of a large peninsula which makes most of modern Denmark. Frisia/Friesland - a province in the Netherlands
The US census is such a joke, honestly.
It is very lacking and also uses terms like "Hispanic/Latino" to refer to someone's race when these terms aren't meant to describe a race, but rather the cultural and linguistic background of a person, regardless of their skin tone...
For those of us who are mixed race (like most in Latin America), they should add the option "mixed race" with this and this skin tone as secondary options to be more specific.
And if the want to dive into what part of the planet is your heritage (culture and language(s) ) from, THEN use these terms like "Hispanic/Latino" from these and these countries.
It would work better and be more clearer for everyone, actually. 👍🏻
Race/color are man made fake concepts. Charles is like 3/8 Native would be chamizo in Spanish caste terms.
Fact my mom born in Africa they have only Black/African American which shows America don’t care about your culture but what category can they put you in.
Plz do family tree of barvarian and saxony monarchs .
Very interesting. Rev Isaac McCoy shows up in my family history. His role in the relocation of indigenous people started because of a live for the people he served, and a wish for them to live somewhere in safety. He was also tirelessly involved in teaching them the Christian religion, and helping them establish their place a more integrated society. His first church pastorate here, in southern Indiana, included folks of color as members, including some of the native Americans living in the area. A black man, Mr. Morris, was one of the founding members of the church. (Mariah Creek Baptist), in the very early 1800s. Thanks for your informative "trees". I enjoy each one.
Sorry Harris, you are 94 years too late to get the honor of first.
Upvote for mentioning Arthur St.Clair's defeat at the Battle of the Wabash !
NB One of St.Clair's main (female-line) descendants married a distant (paternal/male-line) cousin of Lt-Col. George Armstrong Custer !
Also, Spiro Agnew was Greek
my great grandmother's name was Permelia. My mother thought it was Pamela... or liked that name better! hahaha it's a canadian french name
Area of greatest linguistic diversity, does that also include tribal diversity?
As an example some linguistic diversity doesn't necessarily mean culture, ethnicity and traditional or other differences to a tribe, sub-clans for example(The Kalenjin or The Mijikenda).
The historical background to this chart is extremely interesting!
We don't vote for Vice-president, although she was on the "ticket' we vote for President.
Awesome detailed breakdown, I’m Puerto Rican with 16% of my blood Taino Indian who were Arawak descending from South America. So great to see the North American breakdown as so many were forgotten after the white european genocide in the north.
Nice . I'm 18% indigenous Puerto rican. 41% African and 41% European. Wepa.
Can you do a family tree of Turk the son of Iafes?it will be great to see his family tree today,we know the fact that Turk had 4 sons,his oldest son was appointed to rule after the death of Turk,his name was Tutek.