INDIANAPOLIS COLTS ATTEMPT TO SCAM JONATHAN TAYLOR

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  • @cloudicarus3626
    @cloudicarus3626 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I personally think the running back position is very valuable. Without running backs or the threat of a run game, defenses will sellout to stop the pass. With the threat of the run game that keeps defenses on their toes and can open up the passing game more. Yes the NFL is more of a passing league now, but I would like to see the passing numbers when there's several guys covering every possible receiver. I bet the owners would pony up the money for RBs if they saw what it was like when the threat of a running play is taken away

    • @anthonyrodriguez2413
      @anthonyrodriguez2413 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The threat is still there, it can just be accomplished cheaper now with younger backs or a used up veteran. There is more spacing so you don’t need a feature back anymore. The game just evolved. I don’t hear anyone crying about FBs. 🤣

    • @MrSpicabooo
      @MrSpicabooo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats not how u gauge value on this scenario though. You have to put a
      Metric on what affect on the game a very good/great rb has compared to an average to good rb. In this case and era its really not that big of a difference. Its there but its not enough to warrant giving the best rbs big pay days when pretty much another average rb can get 75-90% the production a top rb will get. So yes the run game is valuable but if rb is in essence plug and play then that leads to the situation now where top rbs arent getting the big payday.

    • @joshuamoran1773
      @joshuamoran1773 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thats why there's so many mobile qbs now. Making rbs obsolete

    • @MrSpicabooo
      @MrSpicabooo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Scottydoesntknow1989 lol its gonna turn in to 7 on 7 basically at some point. Wideouts coming out college super polished and pro ready more and more, just look at the recent crop of rookies. Next thing you know there will be 3-5 really good recievers per team, and itll be shotgun 80% of the time to get the spacing. Pair that with the te’s getting better at receiving too, or even just really big wr’s because the need to run will be drastically decreased. Its seems like most logically progression based on current trends.

    • @papasNbeer18
      @papasNbeer18 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Schemes have become the problem. Andy Reid and Shannahan call such creative offenses that they can use anyone with speed at RB. It’s a situation that can only be fixed by strong changes to contracts or even rule changes. I don’t know what the fix is and it sucks

  • @DonDada110478
    @DonDada110478 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Did you forget Henry was the whole Titans offense for the past 3 years

  • @ajl9772
    @ajl9772 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Bell's mistake wasn't necessarily holding out in my opinion. The move could have worked well if he signed with a team with a great O-Line. Don't get me wrong, Bell was talented but he needed that O-line for his playing style to work. He was patient and waited for his O-line to make an opening and he had the vision to react quickly and run through. As soon as he went to the Jets I knew it was over for him. Terrible O-line and god awful coach at the time. I firmly believe if he had gone to someone like the Cowboys he would have remained a top 5 RB and made a lot more money.

    • @RsChrisG
      @RsChrisG ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bell wasn't good. That Steelers O line was godly for run blocking. Their backup I believe Deangelo Williams? was like 34 years old he came in and had a 200 yard game.
      Bell was drunk on his own ego, he was carried by that line much like Demarco Murray and Zeke on Dallas.

    • @ajl9772
      @ajl9772 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RsChrisG Bell was pretty great in the passing game. O-line definitely inflated his stats but he was still above average. Demarco Murray I would argue the same. He put up a really good year with the Titans.

    • @RsChrisG
      @RsChrisG ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ajl9772 I'm not saying they weren't good backs, i'm just saying if they weren't on those specific teams nobody would talk about them still.

    • @Sj7-gr2hl
      @Sj7-gr2hl ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@RsChrisGI know you didn't just say Demarco Murray was carried by the line 🤦🏾‍♂️.. Demarco Murray was a burner and a home run threat with great footwork. Yes they had that monster line but that shit benefited Zeke way more than it benefited anybody else because Zeke isn't all that. Never had been. That's including his Ohio State days where he was getting those same type of open gaps.

    • @RsChrisG
      @RsChrisG ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Sj7-gr2hl lmao, behind dallas oline murray had 1145 yards and 1800 yards, then he went to philly had 700 yards then 1200 in tenn and then 600.

  • @RJ-ox3gi
    @RJ-ox3gi ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Johnathan Taylor once single handedly blew out the Bills and ruined my day. Dude is a baller and deserves to be paid.

    • @brianlevine249
      @brianlevine249 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did get paid. Now if you're arguing he deserves a contract for future performance then the market will dictate that.

    • @thehotboy005
      @thehotboy005 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@brianlevine249what about the players that played with him that didn't get paid. They said that good faith line for a reason he's your ONLY AND I REPEAT ONLY OFFENSIVE WEAPON. Pay him or let him walk.

    • @brianlevine249
      @brianlevine249 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thehotboy005 What NFL player didn't get paid? They are all under contract. Also, the player's ability to break the contract they signed is outlined in the contract. If they want to walk. So I'm not sure what you are "cap'sing" about. All of that is covered in the contracts they voluntarily sign

  • @polumathes9729
    @polumathes9729 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Final halfbacks which teams were built around were Marshawn Lynch, Derrick Henry and I’d argue Jonathan Taylor.
    Also, idk if it’s fair to say say “QB’s progressed”. It’s more that the league became softer on them and the WR’s

    • @notzay3078
      @notzay3078 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Adrian Peterson as well

    • @polumathes9729
      @polumathes9729 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@notzay3078 yes definitely

    • @kcudi0595
      @kcudi0595 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Facts. Dbs can’t hit wideout anymore. You look at them the wrong way it’s a flag.

    • @santadbg5759
      @santadbg5759 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And Christian Mccafery panthers

    • @topnotchtajmahal7216
      @topnotchtajmahal7216 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Top tier backs still matter they just on some bs rn wrs stay getting hurt as well

  • @iplayoldschoolrunescape
    @iplayoldschoolrunescape ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I feel like this all started with zeke and his massive contract with the cowboys. To me the owners position does make sense its messed up but it does make sense. You can get alot of them as a rookie and then just dump them because theyre old or worn down to their eyes and you dont have to pay them as much. The only thing that can fix this situation is rookie running backs having a clause about getting a long term career guaranteed after their rookie years.

  • @TreySarver
    @TreySarver ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Running Backs: We should start faking injuries
    Owners: Great idea!

  • @johnrivers9037
    @johnrivers9037 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A running back that can block, catch, and run still has value.

  • @jcr9434
    @jcr9434 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    As a Colts fan, we’re not competing for a championship right now, we are in a rebuild, we can end up competing for a championship. We have a good enough season, but we won’t know what we have, unless we do right by our star players. I say we pay the man incentive loaded contract. Something in the ballpark of 11 or 12 or $13 million a season, with incentives it can be up to 15 or 16 million a season. What I’m saying is that if the contract actually ends up being bad for us, and he ends up, not having a prolific season like he’s once had, it won’t matter by the time the team is ready to compete at a high-level.

    • @garrettaguilar9712
      @garrettaguilar9712 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardcharles4126 its a thousand percent trying to be a rebuild if the colts were in a tough division they would have started way harder last year but they were in the playoff running nearly all of last year since the afc south is trash right now. Which is why the jags were able to turn things around so fast. If they were in the afc west they would of had no chance of making the playoffs last year. Which is why even though its a rebuild there is still a chance they could potentially win the division (without JT I think they definitely won’t win the division).

    • @skinfluithero4885
      @skinfluithero4885 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@richardcharles4126 Okay there is for sure such thing as a rebuild. Teams fire sale players all the time

    • @zebswebs3649
      @zebswebs3649 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He needs to finish his rookie contract and then we talk next year. This shouldn't even be a discussion this year🙄

    • @Scrappygymrat
      @Scrappygymrat ปีที่แล้ว

      This is why you’re not an nfl gm

    • @fourfourfour4.4.47
      @fourfourfour4.4.47 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@richardcharles4126Completely agree with you

  • @damonlutton
    @damonlutton ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not even trying to hide your animosity towards the Colts organization. I loved Manning, but that was just the right decision. Who in their right mind wouldn't give up 4 years with Manning for 20 years with the next Manning? Manning would not have won another Super Bowl with Indy. The Colts spent 1st round picks on Castanzo, Kelly and Nelson -- with a plethora of R2 and R3 picks spent on linemen like Mewhort. They made every effort to protect Luck; as they did Manning -- who had the best offensive line for a decade. Guys get hurt, and age, and have down years and not every pick is a hit. Every NFL team expects a QB1 to give 14 hours a day. Not an unreasonable ask when your employer pays you 30m-40m a year. Luck felt like he had to make a choice between time with his family and football -- a choice I can respect. But to say the Colts did him wrong!? The Colts let him keep the money they were entitled to re-cooperate. He retired weeks before the season and it was something he'd been considering for sometime -- on the heels of recovering from a non-football related injury nonetheless. If anything, he did the Colts organization and his teammates wrong.
    With that said, I think the Colts should offer JT a 3-year deal in the neighborhood of 10-11m/year. JT is special, but has only had one great year and doesn't posses a CMC/Kamara skill set. I dislike that owners can terminate contracts but players can't; but why the hell do guys sign deals and complain they don't have a new deal before the original deal is up? Do contracts now stipulate that a new long term deal be in place before delivering on the final year of the original deal? I'm guessing JT didn't have a problem taking that signing bonus that included 2023!?

  • @andrewb3882
    @andrewb3882 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Yes they dumped Peyton manning. But they also let Andrew Luck keep 25 million that they didn’t have to give him and could have got back when he unexpectedly retired(although the running theory is they thought he just got banged up a lot the previous year and would return to football after taking a year off). That being said it’s crazy they are going to war with their best player over a couple million bucks…

    • @briane596able
      @briane596able ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Taylor leaving rail roads the Colts plans… the timing is not ideal but a good organization will either commit to a new era for the foreseeable future or move on

    • @davidherzing1496
      @davidherzing1496 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lucks father has a lot of power and Irsay didn’t want the smoke.

    • @tealx8462
      @tealx8462 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidherzing1496
      Really???

    • @Roczen24
      @Roczen24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tealx8462 Yes. The colts are notorious for screwing fans/players. Moving from baltimore... youll notice when indy plays in baltimore, even to this day, Indy is always COLTS and BAL for the scoreboard, never INDY and BAL. They screwed Peyton Manning, destroyed Lucks NFL career, and now they won't pay their best player on the team. Hilarious. They need to get this drunkard out of the front office.

  • @trenboloneytony7609
    @trenboloneytony7609 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love what Travis Etienne said and his mindset behind where the position is at rn… smart dude

    • @sentra2skyline141
      @sentra2skyline141 ปีที่แล้ว

      He ain’t getting paid

    • @RyanEisenman-r2y
      @RyanEisenman-r2y ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sentra2skyline141because he’s young

    • @mhurricane266
      @mhurricane266 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gonna keep his head down, keep grinding and still get shit on when it’s time to cash in lol

  • @crnitzsche
    @crnitzsche ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brooooooo, Dan Marino, John Elway, Joe Montana, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, Brett Favre etc could all sling it! The reason the rbs have been devalued was not because qbs are better now it's because of the rule changes that have been implemented to lead to more scoring, less qb injuries, and less wr injuries.

  • @common12
    @common12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😂😂“It was a good conversation”- Irsay
    😂😂“Trade me”- Taylor

  • @rickmatlock5421
    @rickmatlock5421 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Luck was paid 26 million after he retired !! I think that is pretty good treatment.

    • @elvangulley3210
      @elvangulley3210 ปีที่แล้ว

      26 million for a guy that quit but you have nothing for your current best player

    • @rickmatlock5421
      @rickmatlock5421 ปีที่แล้ว

      Put together a couple of good seasons and maybe Taylor will get paid. He is on the last year of a rookie contract. Running Backs across the league are in the same boat.

  • @ChrisHertel-dc2qz
    @ChrisHertel-dc2qz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mike, thank you sir for all the informative videos you put out regarding the things some of us just don't want to learn. Been watching you since the start, and will always continue to support and love your channel. Rock on

  • @CIoudNFL
    @CIoudNFL ปีที่แล้ว +145

    These dudes put in so much work and teams just treat them like toys😢😢

    • @AvaIxnche
      @AvaIxnche ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Cringe

    • @Bbrex11
      @Bbrex11 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Bro huh

    • @Westbrook112
      @Westbrook112 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      you need to tell the truth about the transgenders to your loved ones

    • @trippen4391
      @trippen4391 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Lol his original comment said
      “I’m in a relationship with a transgender” 😂😂

    • @CIoudNFL
      @CIoudNFL ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@trippen4391 yes it did😂😂

  • @Sleepyless
    @Sleepyless ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a Colts fan, the team ALWAYS pay important players they drafted, ALWAYS, dude just has to play and prove hes actually back from his injury on his 3rd contract year, is that too much to ask? If yes then leave bro or get fucked holding out cant care about this drama in a important offseason like this one, not like we have cap to extend him anyways

    • @elvangulley3210
      @elvangulley3210 ปีที่แล้ว

      You know damn well they still won't pay him

  • @paulwilson1193
    @paulwilson1193 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    They didn't dump manning, he was coming off of a dangerous injury. The colts and manning both knew they had one of the worst offensive lines in football at the time. Want proof, just ask Andrew luck.

    • @sammyhonerd677
      @sammyhonerd677 ปีที่แล้ว

      This folks is what autism looks like!

    • @Getitstraightyo
      @Getitstraightyo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Manning was cut. He offered to stick around and mentor Luck, and they cut him anyway.

    • @lieutenantdan6709
      @lieutenantdan6709 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Getitstraightyowhere you hear that from? With as big as manning ego is I doubt he would of stayed to mentor luck when he was still trying to win superbowls not be a teacher

  • @justCarner
    @justCarner ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Both sides. Bc I see the agent as the obvious problem. He deserves to be paid, but I almost guarantee they aren’t paying him because of the agents shenanigans. If I was JT’s advisor, I’d call up a new agent.

    • @firebat1320
      @firebat1320 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agent seems sketchy asf....... UFC and NFL are different animals culture and personality wise.

  • @scrappypat5612
    @scrappypat5612 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro got 15 new Blazers. No dress pants!

  • @FidsArt
    @FidsArt ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Irsay is an example of why the PR department needs to approve all tweets 😂

    • @tealx8462
      @tealx8462 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cocaine is one hell of a drug!

  • @TheAdidasKnifer
    @TheAdidasKnifer ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Problem in all of this, is Irsay was right when he mentioned the comment about the agents. What is Taylor's agent telling him? Taylor is coming off injury, he is injured right now. Who is going to pay top dollar for someone hurt? And if the Colts do go pay him a boatload, it will hamstring them. The Chargers and Rams proved that when they paid Gurley and Gordon. Running backs won't get paid until QB contracts get back under control. This is coming from a colts fan btw

    • @zolanhelmerick3692
      @zolanhelmerick3692 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree and I’m a dolphins fan who likes the colts I don’t think they should pay him when he’s injured I think he would play and prove Himself then he would get paid but his agent is putting bad influencers on him

    • @lukedryer2280
      @lukedryer2280 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you

    • @locodragon28
      @locodragon28 ปีที่แล้ว

      Na he should sit ! Running backs are getting shafted

    • @locodragon28
      @locodragon28 ปีที่แล้ว

      Qbs making all this cash while trashing thier team is hilarious

    • @traeshonpailliett2151
      @traeshonpailliett2151 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cap . Pay Him .

  • @dougieg5892
    @dougieg5892 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your vids man keep it going

  • @lamarrice1534
    @lamarrice1534 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The last RB that had a team built around him was M.Lych. AP was dominant asf

  • @joeydelmaro8195
    @joeydelmaro8195 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro, really just said Adrian Peterson was the last running back to carry his team this man clearly never watched Derrick Henry

  • @raymac5235
    @raymac5235 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    AP the last dominant back that could carry is team? King Henry has entered the chat..

    • @Tony-qq5xn
      @Tony-qq5xn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! How can you have a conversation about NFL Running Backs and not mention KING HENRY

    • @SomeChink
      @SomeChink ปีที่แล้ว

      ⁠@@Scottydoesntknow1989 even Terrell Davis himself would tell you he didn’t come close to “carrying” the team, those two super bowl teams were stacked, not to mention great coaching and the Shanahan run scheme

    • @jamarreid1082
      @jamarreid1082 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tony-qq5xndude Henry has 8,000 yards, that’s very good, but no where near the all timers he mentioned. You kids are a joke.

    • @AidenAndAleiaTV
      @AidenAndAleiaTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stop it!!! Henry sure as hell didn't carry the Titans last season as Tennessee won only 7 games... The season before he missed 9 games and the Titans still won 12 games ...

    • @Tony-qq5xn
      @Tony-qq5xn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamarreid1082 he mentioned today's players all except Henry.

  • @BigOwl15
    @BigOwl15 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    As a colts fan, I think we just wanna see how he does. He got hurt last season and had ankle surgery in the offseason. If he PLAYS and plays well, I think we’ll resign him. If his injuries don’t let him play to his full ability, I think we will trade him. We just wanna see if he can run like a top 5 RB.

    • @dylanhornstein2536
      @dylanhornstein2536 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tbh, I think that signing him is kinda gone now that Irsay has said these statements. Need to be more tactful in the way that you talk to players. Also, he has good numbers in general for his career barring injuries

    • @nechemyahyasharal3678
      @nechemyahyasharal3678 ปีที่แล้ว

      That logic can be for any player at any position injuries are part of the game. You reward someone at any profession for the excellent work they have done and will continue to do in the future. If I'm a top executive or a productive worker for my employer and I get in a bad car accident that requires surgery and me missing time off. Should I be punish for my misfortune? Of course not! Why? Because I have made that company millions by my hard work and dedication.

    • @zebswebs3649
      @zebswebs3649 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​​​​@@nechemyahyasharal3678 lol its your misfortune, you were paid for that amazing work and if you do it for another year you'll get paid even more money! That's how it works in the real world. I don't know what corporation you think is going to pay you again for what you did 2 years ago because you got hurt. Show me you can still do it then we'll pay you more but not before!!! 😂😂😂 funniest thing I read all night😂😂😂

  • @XCopeLegend
    @XCopeLegend ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Keep it up Mike your the best!

  • @beaupluto
    @beaupluto ปีที่แล้ว +4

    bro forgot derrick henry got the titan franchise on his back

  • @a.lan_15
    @a.lan_15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    W video keep it up brothaa

  • @teddyhamczyk6627
    @teddyhamczyk6627 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I mean these owners are screwed. You sign a guy to a deal, you build around that guy. Next off season that guy wants an extension or more money that you've allocated to another guy/guys.

    • @onehand-yusuf7212
      @onehand-yusuf7212 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jim Irsay is worth 4 billion. Stop bootlicking

  • @zebswebs3649
    @zebswebs3649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He can get his new contract when this one runs out, he needs to shut up and suit up.

  • @howdareyouexist
    @howdareyouexist ปีที่แล้ว +7

    drafting a rookie with fresh legs > paying a big second contract to a vet

    • @zebswebs3649
      @zebswebs3649 ปีที่แล้ว

      Colts let go marshal Faulk and drafted edgerrin James. Taylor needs to finish his first contract before getting another.

  • @lukylex
    @lukylex ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Dude all your content is so well made, you literally made me get back into basketball 🏀, and are bringinging sports news with facts. More important breaking down the drama into stories like this with video and pics to assist is helping us build connections with your videos , the players, the teams, and I appreciate you for that. A big thanks from one Mike to another!

    • @zachwilson355
      @zachwilson355 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      bad takes Mike. might be one of your worst vids.

    • @RestrictedAirspacePodcast
      @RestrictedAirspacePodcast ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Better than ESPN bs that’s for sure.

    • @nmarkert01
      @nmarkert01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I probably watch more minutes of mike talking about basketball than I actually watch basketball. But even so. He too got me back into it.
      The most I used to watch was playing old clips and what not on TH-cam aside from Celtics games. I pay attention to the whole league again now.

    • @lukylex
      @lukylex ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly whether you agree or don't with his views he is a heck of allot better in delivering viewpoints than the pros who can't make certain statements due to their contracts. And it's free!

    • @Arxie-
      @Arxie- ปีที่แล้ว

      Slob That knob for this clown lmao

  • @EATSLEEPREACT
    @EATSLEEPREACT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not capable of throwing 50 yards lol cmon bro the disrespect is insane

    • @trippen4391
      @trippen4391 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was true 😂 could barely throw 40 yards

  • @ryancookrj13
    @ryancookrj13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the suits in your recent videos, I like how every video is an audition video to get to ESPN ;)

  • @patrickledonne5547
    @patrickledonne5547 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if the NFL and players union should make certain concessions to RBs to compensate for their short shelf lives resulting from wear and tear. Maybe double or triple the rookie deals for those picked after round 1, or make their rookie deals only 2 years with 2-3 years of well paid team options like the 1 year option on 1st round deals or a baseball style arbitration that sets the salary that either the team must pay or can refuse to pay, granting the player free agency.

  • @ZabelGameZ
    @ZabelGameZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One name left out of dominant RBs. Marshawn Lynch was the focal point of the Seahawks offense in their run from 2012-2016.

  • @TheGameBroke
    @TheGameBroke ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The suits are getting out of hand 😂😂

  • @JCforever10
    @JCforever10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Football is evolving like basketball did in the 2010s

  • @jimmymoon5879
    @jimmymoon5879 ปีที่แล้ว

    only place i got for football news. great work extremely unbiased and strictly reporting! love it man keep grinding!

  • @obduliorojas3353
    @obduliorojas3353 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always like your videos 🙌🏻🙌🏻🔥🔥

  • @rickdollings7382
    @rickdollings7382 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RB rookie contracts should be heavily incentive laden and count less toward the salary cap. Thais way, they'd get paid if they kill it or not so much if they get injured early, don't perform or that aren't heavily used. This would pay them what they're worth while possibly incentivizing teams to not run them into the ground.

  • @ohmega0110
    @ohmega0110 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They were capable of throwing 50 yards and 40 times. Just wasn't the recipe for success when defensive backs could actually cover and hit receivers. Plus they could tackle the QB back then too.

  • @daveh4914
    @daveh4914 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Peyton comments are revisionist. It was far from clear what Peyton was going to be able to do after the neck at that time thr decision was made and they had the first overall pick and a transformational type of player in Luck available in the draft.
    What Irsay did wrong in that period was turn the team over to Grigson and Pagano. He compounded that error by not firing those two quick enough after it was clear how subpar they were at their jobs.
    He had the same issue with Reich and Ballard. One playoff win under Ballard.
    A couple years back the Colts best players were in no particular order a guard a running back and a linebacker. They won 9 games and missed the playoffs.
    Irsay shouldn't say the quiet parts out loud but he isn't wrong to be reluctant to shower cash on a running back given the pass happy rules of the current game.
    About the NFI stuff I would be guessing. Taylor didn't pass his physical. That is all that is known.
    As for JT he has every right to request a trade, hold out, ask for a McCaffrey sized deal or whatever. NFL players, rb's especially, have a short shelf life and need to get theirs as quickly as possible.
    Honestly for the good of the game the NFL needs to come up with a variation of the performance based pay program and aim it at these young running backs and pay them as they go. The unintended consequences of the changes in the game has put running backs in this position. It is fair for them to be pissed about it.

  • @outtatime9836
    @outtatime9836 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The colts have every rite to be worried about an extension after last season, has Irsay handle this correctly? No. If I was in his shoes, in that private meeting say,
    Dude, you where injuried all last year. I get it your worried. But remember, you Daym near brought us to the playoffs with Casrson at the helm, show us good health and a willingness to work on your hands, and around week 6 we will hand you a contract.

    • @MS-bw8qc
      @MS-bw8qc ปีที่แล้ว

      good thing you dont work in the nfl youd get fired quick

  • @efraingarcia1814
    @efraingarcia1814 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m on the Colts side and the Colts do treat their players really well. They paid $26 million to Andrew Luck even though he retired and Peyton Manning had a neck injury and it’s really low IQ to use 20-20 hindsight when no one knew how he would turn out.

  • @kasper3876
    @kasper3876 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bruh I've had notifications on for years lol where's my cut

  • @lovelaj0149
    @lovelaj0149 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone: "literally anything"
    Mike: "IT'S AN ACT OF WAR!"

  • @zebswebs3649
    @zebswebs3649 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Exactly, i feel like he's trying to get a big contact without knowing the full condition of his injury/ recovery, it would ve idiotic to just sign a huge contract right now😂😂😂

  • @YoungGreenEverything
    @YoungGreenEverything ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The nfl literally tests the strength of these players pove of the game its sad. Imagine not being fully paid because people didnt feel like it. Sad.

  • @jokulsnow9903
    @jokulsnow9903 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Before Landry introduced the 4-3 defense teams ran 7-1-2 defenses. 1 LB 2 safeties in the box and a cover safety. Corners weren't a thing until teams started passing more.
    Football evolves in ways other sports don't. It's chess and the value of pieces change due to strategy. Sucked for FB when the position was fazed out. Sucks to be an HB right now.
    That's football.

  • @DefinitivelyZach
    @DefinitivelyZach ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a Colts fan, I wish we'd stop making this more than it is. JT is not going to get traded. He can take his 3.5 mil and play this year or sit out. And for argument sake, lets just say the Colts agree to trade him. Now you'd have to find a team that's willing to execute a sign and trade with the Colts, so they'd have to be willing to pay him the 15 mil/year his agent wants starting this year, AND that team would have to be willing to trade next years 1st and 2nd round AT LEAST. Good luck finding that. No other owner is going to do that. JT has ZERO leverage right now coming off an injury riddled season and being under contract for this year, AND the Colts have 2 franchise tags for year 5 and 6 where he'd get the league average 12 mil/year and 16 mil in year 6, which is exactly what he would get paid anyways on the contract he wants.
    I fucking hate his agent for corrupting him because he used to be a team first guy. This is clearly all on his agent.

    • @BlackJax125
      @BlackJax125 ปีที่แล้ว

      So a team needs to give up a 1st and a 2nd but the Colts don't want to pay him like he's a 1st and 2nd round caliber player? Lmao wut?

    • @DefinitivelyZach
      @DefinitivelyZach ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BlackJax125 He is a top 5 RB in the league who just had an injury plagued season. A team would have to a put a first rounder on the table for the colts to even consider it. But to act like the Colts should extend him now after last season is laughable. You know how Running backs go. He could get back to his 2021 production or he could get injured again.

  • @Unknown17
    @Unknown17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, it wasn't that long ago that people were constantly saying, "If you want to win a Super Bowl, you gotta have a great defense and a great run game." Seems like the distant past now.

  • @nathanielgilbert6626
    @nathanielgilbert6626 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This content been keeping me going low key my guy thanks 🫡💯

  • @rickydlp
    @rickydlp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been a Colts fan since 2006 and Irsay makes that very hard at times.

  • @TheProtagonist06
    @TheProtagonist06 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    JT is in a lose lose situation. While I am a big JT fan, life will go on without him. The 2024 free agent group for RBs is loaded AND so is the draft class.
    Best thing JT can do is apologize and throw the pads back on.

    • @locodragon28
      @locodragon28 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why

    • @locodragon28
      @locodragon28 ปีที่แล้ว

      So the owners can get fat

    • @locodragon28
      @locodragon28 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fu k that !! Go Jonathan

    • @locodragon28
      @locodragon28 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have zero qbs to pay for why not give him the money? Absolutely the best player on the shity colts. So by that logic if he has two good yrs left why would you stay on the colts who have no chance in the playoffs

    • @TheProtagonist06
      @TheProtagonist06 ปีที่แล้ว

      @locodragon28 take a look at the market value for an RB. look at next year's options. look at the draft class

  • @Arxie-
    @Arxie- ปีที่แล้ว

    Wearing a suit jacket as if what you say is more relevant. I’m crying laughing LMAO

  • @jaywood1698
    @jaywood1698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This will be another Saquon Barkley situation where all of this back and forth, talking, and not reporting to camp will be for no reason at all. Adam Schefter will report that Jonathan Taylor has either signed a one-year deal worth 10.5 million with incentives worth 1.2 Million or JT is reporting to camp without the contract extension and him and the front office has put aside their differences. The league will not let Running Backs have any leverage anymore and they are realizing that. What Travis Etienne said has proved that. "The market is what the market is".

  • @CityInTheDark1
    @CityInTheDark1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the same franchise who historically pays their players. Let’s also not forget that when Luck retired we allowed him to keep almost 30 mil that we could have recouped from him but didn’t. So yes. This franchise treats it’s players well.

    • @lieutenantdan6709
      @lieutenantdan6709 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They only did that because they thought he was comeback next year.

  • @Jay-fr6ex
    @Jay-fr6ex ปีที่แล้ว

    I 100% believe the Colt's and Jim Irsay just COMPLETELY SCREWED THEMSELVES. 😂😂

  • @Malibujeremy
    @Malibujeremy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone needs to keep it in mind that at the end of the day, it's a business. Would you keep dumping $ into it knowing that you aren't going to have it payout for your business, or would you let it hemmorage $ out??? Successful businesses wouldn't let that happen to them

  • @dougwest2547
    @dougwest2547 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:00 thank you for marking Saint Louis. Missouri truly does miss the rams.

  • @johnlaplant9044
    @johnlaplant9044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They just got on the right track with the quarterback situation, the last thing they need is a new revolving door at the RB position. I’m a die hard Colts fan but I’m on Taylor’s side with this. He was the offense since he was drafted.

    • @UnkownSoldier100
      @UnkownSoldier100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have no idea if they are on the right track at QB yet, that remains to be seen. RB is a revolving door position. Taylor is great but at a position easiest to replace. Yeah Jim may be a great cashier, but at the end of the day you don’t have to pay him big bucks because anyone can do that job and you can replace him with someone lesser and be just fine. RB is the cashier of NFL positions unfortunately. The money Taylor wants is better spent everywhere else on the team.

    • @johnlaplant9044
      @johnlaplant9044 ปีที่แล้ว

      I take it as a win that they went after a QB in the draft, instead of another vet. But Taylor deserves his. He has been really the only bright spot for the Colts over the last few years. I don’t know, maybe I just want the Colts not to make the same mistakes from the past.

    • @UnkownSoldier100
      @UnkownSoldier100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnlaplant9044 You don’t pay RBs, you keep draft their replacements. The market reflects this. It’s not unfair, it’s just factual that paying RBs is a bad investment.

  • @samseely7875
    @samseely7875 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In 8-12 years it will flip back to teams building around a RB. Defense then will need to need to relearn how to defend it

  • @mystaniceguy
    @mystaniceguy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I honestly never knew RBs were so undervalued as players. I thought they would have been next highest paid next to the QBs they do so much work on the field. Incredible to think that they are treated like this.

    • @derekmarks1479
      @derekmarks1479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Supply and demand, you need 3-5 wr on a team and to find three good wr is hard so you have to pay more to keep them, they have a lower supply making a higher demand for all the open opportunities. You need 1-2 good rb on a team and with all the ones coming out of college each year it’s easy to replace that roll, however if all your eggs are in one basket and he gets injured you stuck paying 1 guy 10% of the salary cap to be injured. Players like Henry, Barkley, and mccaffrey are the exception but most other running backs could easily be replaced. Even when Henry went down the titans brought in 2 guys making around 5 million total (1/3 what Henry makes) together and their numbers were almost exactly the same as Henry…. But none of those guys are taking it 99 yards and flipping a game like Henry can. Giving a running back a 50 million dollar contract just to see them get hurt can set your franchise back 2-4 years. For running backs they want long term support for a position that doesn’t last long so it’s a very difficult area to navigate business wise. If I were a rb I would look for short term max contracts 17-20 million for one year deals and just keep dipping until the injury bug catches up and you’re forced to play on a prove it deal but with all those big contract behind you it averages out, right now it seems like every rb contract is a prove it deal even if they already proved it.

    • @BrennanCh06
      @BrennanCh06 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are not undervalued. With a good o line, a good offensive coordinator can plug and play a lot of running backs into the same scheme to get the same results.

    • @timothydavis3831
      @timothydavis3831 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@BrennanCh06 You're right! Anyone remember Denver years back under Mike Shanahan. Oh yeah, we got the new version in San Francisco under his son Kyle. Derrick Henry got paid in Tennessee because he is a once in a generation running back. Taylor is nice in Indy but he is nowhere near Henry in Tennessee as far as impact on the team success and the fear/respect teams give Henry when he is in the game. Also, you have to look at the philosophy of the offensive system they use. If their not a run heavy team or a team that prioritizes production from their running backs, then you won't get some big monster deal regardless of your numbers.
      We have to remember that the NFL is not the NBA. Also, while fantasy football us great, the only true statistics that matter in professional football is wins and losses.

  • @ChiemelaDN
    @ChiemelaDN ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a quarterbacks league and the running backs are just living in it

  • @seanflannick9215
    @seanflannick9215 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about Derrick Henry? The Titans are definitely built around him and that came from Demarco Murray..

  • @juansong5595
    @juansong5595 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best pass blocking💀 zeke. Hahahahahaha

  • @rollingwithchuckg
    @rollingwithchuckg ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing is once you as the RB’s to get more involved in the passing game,the blocking aspect of RB’s will fade away

  • @GrecoBaseball29
    @GrecoBaseball29 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahman Green was with the Seahawks in the 90's. He came to the Packers in 2000. Green Bay had Edger Bennett and Dorsey Levens in the 90's.

  • @BuddyPMoon
    @BuddyPMoon ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff as always, Mike! What kind of suits you rocking these days? Professional wardrobe on point 💯

  • @easyyeye
    @easyyeye ปีที่แล้ว

    9:50 essentially in so many words. We can find anova RB of ur caliber.
    Yeah maybe in 2-3 years.

  • @pigpink1971
    @pigpink1971 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought that was Fred Sanford on the thumbnail! 😂

  • @mdb1010
    @mdb1010 ปีที่แล้ว

    Travis was just mad he didnt get invited to the zoom meeting 😂

  • @Bradygoat6390
    @Bradygoat6390 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking real Mafioso Mike lol, thanks for the great content as always 👏

  • @RyanEisenman-r2y
    @RyanEisenman-r2y ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Travis Eteine is a smart man. Yeah sure running backs should be payed way more but they just also look to improve their game and diversify their game by being able to both catch and run. I hope all running backs get payed in the end but also improve their game at the same time.

  • @sivyisvaj8054
    @sivyisvaj8054 ปีที่แล้ว

    The owner for sure on cocaine when making that running back tweet. 😂

  • @penguinrea0088
    @penguinrea0088 ปีที่แล้ว

    God bless you Mike, keep up the fantastic work

  • @DetroitTyler
    @DetroitTyler ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the issue isn't so much the value of the position it's that we haven't really had that many consistently elite backs without injuries for awhile. Nick Chubb to me is what made a good RB market, year to year you can count on production at a high level. His 5+ YPC is amazing, the reality a decade and a half ago there were many guys like that maybe not the 5+ YPC, but dudes who'd string together 5+ years of pro bowl type caliber play all around the league. Now we have a few of those guys, but the majority of them have had some serious injuries. I think it's a combination of an inflated QB and WR market, a lack of consistent top shelf RB market to establish it, and the fact that RBs now have to cross train pass blocking and catching more than ever. RBs are becoming the new fullbacks in a way.

  • @Eddieavina123
    @Eddieavina123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your video Mike

  • @cobra_bubbles1
    @cobra_bubbles1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Football players need to figure out that after one paycheck they are set for life

  • @joshneal7857
    @joshneal7857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    QB's more capable or the rules 🤔

  • @ds--pu1tv
    @ds--pu1tv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can see both sides honestly i mean on one hand you can't help if a position over time gets under used and becomes less of a priority on the field that's just the evolution of the game nobody is at fault, but on the other hand if you have a dominant player who you can trust to win games you pay them, tricky situation.

    • @zebswebs3649
      @zebswebs3649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Need to see if he's healthy still. No new contract until we know.

    • @MS-bw8qc
      @MS-bw8qc ปีที่แล้ว

      he had one great year you dont pay a guy 16 mill a year which hes asking after just one successful career

  • @lucasanthony1040
    @lucasanthony1040 ปีที่แล้ว

    they have to come up with a compromise whether it’s raising that franchise tag a couple million or making it so that every time an rb makes it to a second contract the get incentives linked in it. like a mil for 1000 yards or a mil for 10 touchdowns or a mil for 50 receptions. find ways to allow halfbacks to gain money for their production. make halfback tag prices 14 million

  • @nathansmallman683
    @nathansmallman683 ปีที่แล้ว

    He’s still under contract!! He’s coming off a year being injured. He also said in April he wanted to be a Colt gets a new agent and now he’s not happy. If he had a bounce back year then there’s no doubt he gets paid no matter what.

  • @cwolf0915
    @cwolf0915 ปีที่แล้ว

    Come on over to Denver!!

  • @meech6848
    @meech6848 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know why Mike started wearing suits? Its been a couple of months now so it seems like a thing

  • @renegonzalez1991
    @renegonzalez1991 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can’t get hurt away from the team. Especially not when you want a new contract and are supposedly requesting a trade. It’s a business baby!

    • @Doaclanleader81
      @Doaclanleader81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is he actually hurt though? He denied it yesterday on social media. "1.) Never had a back pain. 2.) Never reported back pain. Not sure who “sources” are, but find new ones"

    • @renegonzalez1991
      @renegonzalez1991 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Doaclanleader81 no idea but if not then the colts have to hold themselves accountable for being shady. If he is then he has to be held accountable. Just because he’s the star they get preferential treatment but it’s not a must

  • @calebfield7658
    @calebfield7658 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, Mike is looking sharper and sharper in every video! Nice suit brotha!

  • @KEENANALLENASMRGLASS
    @KEENANALLENASMRGLASS ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Irsay is treading into the Al Davis and jerry jones territory where the owner actively is hurting the team while thinking they’re helping.

    • @dannyevilcat
      @dannyevilcat ปีที่แล้ว

      treading into? He's long since trode into that territority.

    • @MS-bw8qc
      @MS-bw8qc ปีที่แล้ว

      Hes actually a decent owner all things consider people who hate on him are either casuals or dont know anything about the colts

    • @dannyevilcat
      @dannyevilcat ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MS-bw8qc Nah, he's willing to spend money, which is good, but doesn't have the patience for a proper rebuild plan, and so the Colts keep getting stuck in long-term mediocrity - too good to get the kind of draft picks needed, but not good enough to win championships. As soon as Luck left, they should have scrapped it and started over.

    • @MS-bw8qc
      @MS-bw8qc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dannyevilcat well thats not true anymore since they just drafted a rookie with the 4th pick. To compare him to al davis or jerry Jones is asinine. He says things sometimes that he probably shouldn't say but he takes care of his players and does pay them and always has

    • @MS-bw8qc
      @MS-bw8qc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dannyevilcat well thats not true anymore since they just drafted a rookie with the 4th pick. To compare him to al davis or jerry Jones is asinine. He says things sometimes that he probably shouldn't say but he takes care of his players and does pay them and always has

  • @moderndayjay9109
    @moderndayjay9109 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike out here looking like a 1920’s gangster 😂

  • @FranklinBurrus
    @FranklinBurrus ปีที่แล้ว

    why is Jim Irsay dressed like a Righteous Gemstone 😂

  • @MistrChocolate
    @MistrChocolate ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t forget, it wasn’t Drew Bledsoe that turned the Patriots around, it was when they drafted HOFer Curtis Martin… without him, the Patriots don’t make the Superbowl against Green Bay in 96.

  • @devontegilliam9211
    @devontegilliam9211 ปีที่แล้ว

    The RBs needs to get PAID....PERIOD! They have to be 3 different positions in one. Block like and O-lineman, catch like a WR, run the ball, oh while running the ball, they have to have elite skills to do.... break tackles, be elusive, and have speed. The disrespect towards RBs is INSANE! Josh Jacobs earned his money. J. Taylor earned his money. The league is going to mess around and find out how valuable they are when their team can only pass and not run the ball. You have to be able to run the ball effectively in order to have a dominant passing attack. The league is messing up, and it will cost them greatly in the end.

  • @joeshmoe5160
    @joeshmoe5160 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how they all went on on this "we together thing" but 1 by 1 signed

  • @polumathes9729
    @polumathes9729 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Colts bout to screw their whole season up.

    • @AB-ou5qc
      @AB-ou5qc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Weren’t going to win more than 7 games probably anyway.

    • @anthonyrodriguez2413
      @anthonyrodriguez2413 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s what I was thinking. They aren’t competing this year anyways. 🤣

    • @zebswebs3649
      @zebswebs3649 ปีที่แล้ว

      JT about to screw his career up😮

    • @polumathes9729
      @polumathes9729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zebswebs3649 lol by doing what exactly?

    • @zebswebs3649
      @zebswebs3649 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@polumathes9729 by trying to hold out for a bigger contract when he hasn't finished the first one😉

  • @SloshyFrosty
    @SloshyFrosty ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been waiting for you to put out a video about JT after this weekends drama

  • @ryanloyd840
    @ryanloyd840 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh no 🙄 NFL EMPLOYEES can't handle they work for a business. If the player union thought things were unfair, the union would step in. It's kind of unfair that they get to complain about not making a couple million while most of us barely even make 100-200k. The running back position is so saturated. The team can pick up a free agent running back, pay them a percentage of what a "star" back would and still do pretty great as a team. For people that act like they know the sport and business, they obviously can't wrap their heads around change.