Stroud really worked on his feet work and passing at OSU. It was frustraiting at times when he didnt run like Young did. He won at the end for not bailing and running a lot. He learned
@@Texansfan59 Absolutely, that's why as a Buckeye fan, many others were frustrated at times that he didn't utilize his legs more on certain downs or important late game situations. You definitely saw it in the Georgia game however.
Tbh bro, Frank is failing Bryce so far. Not to mention Frank wanted Stroud. I’ll let you do your own research on that if you don’t believe me but Bryce was not a Frank Reich pick, he was a owner pick (Tepper) it was honestly noticeable in college how much better Stroud was and Bryce isn’t terrible by any means but Stroud is also in a better position and has advantages in his height as you see Bryce is working & is developing week by week with getting the ball out quicker… people keep saying the OL is sketchy but it’s not the OL… it’s Bryce not being able to see over the OL and he’s losing defenders in blitz plays and he’s gotta figure out how to make plays outta the pocket more often…. His ability to make plays on the run is Prime Russell Wilson like… he gotta activate it tho… that’s my opinion… that’s what I see ….
The NFL rule of thumb is 24 games worth of playing time, preferably less. You should be able to tell what kind of QB he will be by then, whether he's your franchise QB, or a solid backup, or should be cut.
No, people play better during certain settings 😂 if I play in pads or in freezing cold I suck ass. Lol also it doesn’t cause what happened when you make perfect passes then your T.E and wr crumble from the pressure it’s not the qbs fault
I think it’s time the panthers find a Gm that actually gonna make some move like towards the o line cause we are lacking a o line and a star wide receiver Adam can’t be the only one with the work load
I literally just said this watching undisputed right before this upload came out. Being drafted to a terrible team will ruin your image as a winner, which is why Caleb Williams' dad said his son won't go pro just to do so this year.
@@Texansfan59Honestly Texans offensively had a lot of underrated talent especially at WR. Having a franchise LT helps as well. This is another factor in teams when you actually have guys step up like they did. Texans were only a QB and like 2 WRs away from competing in their division.
Well, our o line is missing both starting guards, and we didn't really have depth to replace them. That's issue 1. Issue 2 is the WR room. Issue 3 is a TON of injuries to our best defensive players. Honestly I think Bryce will be fine, but we need to take the rest of this year and look at a lot of young talent that we have, and let them develope.
wr room is an issue? dj chark is a beast and adam is good as well .. haden hurst is a serviceable te trust me i know im a ravens fan he just was hurt and couldnt beat out mandrews
@@kiyanwest149 Chark is good but injury prone. Theilen is good but aging. Hurst is.. idk. I've had him on Fantasy in prior years and even this year, he's just not doing good. He had Burrow last year and still couldn't do anything. He basically only has 1-2 options and a very bad O-line. He was set up for failure..
@@PapaSwisha Your Texans also have decent receivers to throw to.. Tank Dell, Nico Collins, Dalton Schultz.. Young has Theilen and maybe Chark, if he's not injured and arguably, an even worse O-line.
I feel bad for Panthers fans after watching them last year especially after they traded CMC things were looking brighter, run blocking was great, defense was playing good, all they were missing was a pass game
Yeah, that's what happens when you have a coach in place that knows how to motivate a team to be more than the sum of it parts. That locker room loved Wilks and played hard for him. Then Tepper hit the "self destruct" button and blew it all up in favor of a shiny "offensive minded coach". And so here we are.
@@Mnkylordwilks always gets the short end of the stick, he was given a terrible situation in arizona with josh rosen and a terrible roster and got one year, the panthers players literally advocated for wilks and the panthers still said fuck him
Lions and Seahawks are the masterclass in rebuilding. Seahawks I guess would be a retooling but turning into a rebuild. Both are going great so far. I always knew Goff was above average and I'm glad he is finally getting his credit.
Bro lions are legit! I’m rooting for them they’ve been an underdog and laughed at for years but now they’re one of the most dangerous teams in the league. You should be proud how far your team has come.
Imagine if Justin Fields was their future. They’d be looking at contending in a couple years. But there’s no way they don’t use one of those picks on a QB; Fields struggles can’t be blamed on the team around him. If they could spend those picks on ANYTHING but a QB the Bears would have a potentially bright future. Now, it’s just another rebuild.
Bryce Young can totally bounce back from his early struggles. After watching both Tua and Josh Allen early in their careers I’m not as quick to write players off.
Josh Allen with a cannon for an arm and tua who was always good just got hurt alot? Yeah it wasn't hard to see lmao not sure who would have wrote them off. Bryce is very different
This is simply not true. You know who is going to be good or who might turn out good because they give you a glimpse of what they can do and Young has not shown that one time.
From a fins fan, if you guys remember the same thing happened with burrow and Herbert about tua. And look at tua now. One problem I see if Reich doesn't believe in him, this will cause issues. IE- Brian flores compared to Mike McDaniel. But once bryce finds his nfl legs, he'll be fine I think. Build pieces around him and watch him grow! #finsup
This situation is slightly different then miamis. Reich wanted young I believe but the problem is reich. Tua is thriving coz he has a young coach who can relate to tua, talk to tua in a way for him to understand. Mike Mcdaniel is young enough to relate to tua so he can talk to him more easier, get him to understand the playbook and the nfl then flores ever will. Young’s problem is he doesn’t understand the nfl game or the playbook or what reich wants him to do. Reich is from a older generation who did things differently. Bryce is from a new generation, our generation we do things differently and unfortunately reich doesn’t understand this generations ways of doing things. He doesnt speak the language that is required to help him learn the game. I think reich finally understands this which is y he is turning the play calling to his OC who can relate to him. Hopefully brown can get through to him and is teaching him in a way where he will finally understand and can start turning the corner.
This team was playing super well underneath the leadership of Steve Wilks and I thought for sure he would of been retained. I swear this team would of been competitive with Steve at the helm.
13:29 They did, they drafted Ickey Ekownu last year as the franchise LT. He's been fine. Moton the RT is still solid. Our problem is bout our starting guards are out, one got put on IR after week , and our other one is currently working back from an acl tear from the final game of last year, he should be coming back after the bye. Notice how all of Young's pressures are from the interior o line.
Dude has already allowed 3 sacks and Moton has been okay…. Linemen being out should NOT be a problem 😂 A perfect example is Houston, they had 1 starter on their offensive line until week 5 and in week 4 when they went against a Steelers defense they allowed 0 sacks and that’s because some guy that got signed a week before was playing…. Houston has been getting healthier every week but the main reasons for success is their OC and HC and QB which is what the panthers don’t have currently but the panthers are struggling from more then just that….
Two points: 1) The Panthers organization deserves this for their despicable treatment of Steve Wilks. As an interim head coach, he had that team in playoff contention (albeit in the joke NFC South) at the end of the year after they traded the best player on the team (Christian McCaffrey). Consider that the Panthers ran the ball much better when Wilks led the team despite not having McCaffrey than they did with Matt Rhule as head coach, and McCaffrey as RB. It's even worse when you consider that Frank Reich participated in a memo decrying the lack of Afirican-American head coaches, yet he took the spot occupied by Wilks. 2) Regarding tanking, you're proving Brian Flores' argument for him that owners would prefer head coaches that are total wastoids so they can get the #1 overall when they would then replace that head coach with another one than a head coach who can make a team play better than its talent. However, you'll have to explain why that isn't anything different than the 1919 White Sox throwing the World Series. After all, an owner who wants a head coach to lose through numerous means is just as bad if not worse than players deliberately losing. It also is irrelevant if the GM can't draft players. The Bengals in the 1990's had numerous high draft picks yet they only resulted in players like David Klingler, Dan Wilkinson or Ki-Jana Carter.
My team is a clown organization right now. I'm fucking livid that they were this bad after hiring the "best" staff available. Doing all the off season moves. Who knew that getting rid of all your play makers to get that Franchise QB would be a bad move. lol. This organization is making ass backwards moves and it all starts at the top. David Tepper is the reason all this is happening. It doesn't matter if he is the 2nd wealthiest owner in the NFL. The NFL isn't a hedge fund you can just run it like that. Bryce needs better coaches and my god get him a damn weapon and a better O-line. Unfortunately Tepper chose wrong and did not pick Steve Wilks who had the locker room. Tepper needs to let NFL people make the decisions and let them do NFL things. Get your hands off the team and let people work.
NOBODY had that energy when drafting young but now that everyone has seen just how good Stroud is of course people are going to flip and say they should have taken stroud
Really, just be glad Texans won in overtime in the final gm last yr. That's why texans got CJ bc if theyd lost theyd have picked BY. Texans front office, even at pick 2, were still split on if they should take CJ (per John McClain). Some wanted Will at 2 and to wait til Caleb, Drake, etc hit the draft.
To me stroud comes up to the line with confidence, he throws.. with confidence.. He knows the plays being called.. He understands when people will be open.. To me this early, stroud is incredibly talented.. but has to be equally so as a hard worker/ learner to pull that off. His stature gives him great view of his wide receivers in the pocket. A recipe for success. Bryce young is shorter, and can't get through his progressions quickly enough apparently. With time it'll get better, but the flaws will show way earlier
Facts! I keep telling people...besides the obvious (size, arm strength, arm talent etc) the less obvious but crucial differences between CJ and Bryce are from the huddle to the throw. CJ is faster and much more polished. His pre snap reads, post snap progressions and moves. His throwing mechanics. All superior. Panthers receivers get open...the problem is Bryce misses the windows and by the time he makes his mind up....They DBs have already caught up and they're 20 yards down field where Bryce is NOT accurate. Never has been. He keeps targeting Theilen cause his routes keep him the closest and he's rarely defended by the opposing teams best DB. Bryce is super accurate within 10 yards. Over 10 yards he's not so accurate....especially in the flats. This is analytical data per college and the NFL. The OL and receivers are getting too much blame for stuff Bryce himself needs to work on.
Cj knows the plays coz the 49ers offense that slowik is running is quarterback friendly and designed for any quarterback. Bobby slowik was mentored and developed by kyle shanahan on how to not only run it but to design and tweak it to any quarterback. It also doesnt hurt that slowik is young enough to relate and can talk to cj stroud a lot more easier about the nfl and how to run the offense. Young’s problem is its reich that is teaching him and he doesn’t talk the same language as young much less relate to the quarterback of this generation. Thats partly y young isn’t performing coz he has a disconnect to his coach. He cant relate to reich.
@@AznIntegra521 yeah I don't know, The panthers are struggling at every position. i wouldnt pin it on just being the disconnect to the coach. His stature, lack of key players, a new offense. It's basically doomed to fail
The Coach Or Owner Aren't At Fault The Lil Man Is Just Too Small To Be A QB In This Generations NFL!!!The Linemen Are Taller And Bigger And The Defense Is Taller,Bigger And Faster Then Years Gone By!!!I Don't Think B.Young Will Have Success In The NFL No Matter What Team He's On,Simply Because Of His Size!!!He Should've Actually Changed Positions Like Other College QB's Have Done!!!If You Don't Believe Me Just Watch And Of Coarse The Media Will Be All On Him,Until He Either Shows He Belongs Or Gives Up!!!He Was Nice In College But The NFL Isn't College And You Can See Already That B.Young Wasn't Ready For This Major Transition!!!So...Yes,He'll Get Paid But He Will Not Be A Elite QB In The NFL Ever!!!🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️Sorry It's Not Rocket 🚀 Science...Anyone That Knows A Lil About The NFL Can Watch And See B.Young Isn't That Guy For Carolina Or Any NFL Team At The QB Position!!!And I Believe That His Coaches,Owner And Even Himself Know That...Nope,Naw,No Way To Him Being A Starting QB That Will Make A Difference Or Make Any Noise At All In The NFL!!!I Could See Him Maybe As A WR's But Nope,Naw,No Way Not At QB In This League!!!So...The Coach Or Owner Didn't Mess Up His Career In The NFL Already...Simply Because He Wasn't And Isn't Going To Have That Kind Of NFL Career Everyone Thought Or Hoped He Would!!!*in my opinion of coarse,but just watch!!!i don't want to be the one to say i told ya so but...I WILL BE THAT GUY TO TELL YA,I TOLD YA SO!!!*🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️Don't Blame And Can't Blame Any Coach,Owner,Or Organization For His Career Not Being The Best To Start Or Moving Foward*you can't blame noone*It's His Size At His Position,That's Who's To Blame #Smdh 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️Good-Luck Lil Man!!!😜😂*sorry it's not funny,but it is true though*All I Can Say Is...JUST WATCH👀And You'll See👀An NFL QB He Shouldn't Be👀,Sorry!!!
@@Mikerophoneokay and.. It doesn't change the fact that most first year QBs especially those drafted in the top ten struggle because there is a reason why the team is picking that high and those are the worse teams from the previous season and it doesn't help that they traded or release many power players, so let's see what happens
You are so correct. They made the dumbest trade ever. They gave up way too much. The owner set both Bryce and Frank Reich up for failure. The owner has no idea how to build a team.
Until the eagles revolutionized the Tush push I had never heard anyone cop out saying something like "yea, well, our big weakness is short yardage situations and Bryce young is small"....no one was ever complaining about not being able to run the MIGHTY QB sneak move. Just seems like a major cop out for being unable to get 1 yard when they need to.
I'm a panthers fan and I thought we shoulda taken CJ Stroud the whole time, and then seeing Baker do so well with the Bucs (who I hate) after Matt Rhule choke his success last year just hurts.
Aside from Tua and Hurst, Alabama QB's don't normally perform up to their college once they make it to the NFL. Because their draft position is overrated based on the performance of the team.
I feel like this year has shown how important the team around the QB actually is. Defenses are absolutely slapping QBs this year. Build the Oline and Dline, get some skill guys. And go find a qb that fits your system and would fit in the locker room and you have a winner. Unless you have a time machine and can go back and draft mohomes, then you should just do that
I didn’t expect a playoff appearance form this year. All I think they need to do is continue to get better and improve. Which I think they have done a great deal of since the first game. That being said, they have a lot of cap space, take some one year proveed deals and see what happens. Then next year hit in draft picks.
@@Fam1stCEO Who's been longer? Who has never even sniffed a Super Bowl? You haven't even won a playoff game since the Panthers been existence 😂. Don't let your recent success go to your head. IT'S ABOUT TIME 😂
Let’s not forget that the panthers weren’t even the worst team last year. They traded up so there’s no excuse for them to be even worse after drafting their supposedly franchise qb.
This is why organizations and people should NEVER rely on a quarterback to solve ALL their problems when their team has other issues to fix. Never draft a QB to solve everything like a handyman!!
I hated the trade. It didn’t make sense for so many assets to be traded away when we already had a first overall coming up the very next year. Loved DJ Moore too
As a Panthers fan how can you think you're going to have a great season when you traded away your best RB you don't have great wr your QB doesn't have any protection and your defense is the worst and you get a new coach in 1st year and new system it going to take a few years unless you either a do like the rams did trade away your future in draft picks and take on a huge cap or draft and find that jewel of a pick in draft and not get a crying leaf.
I'm a bengals fan and when Mike Brown stopped meadiling in every single affair of his team, we got better in every way. Finally a indoor pratice field, finally a ring of honor and ohhh wait whats that? Its a afc championship and another appearance the next year. Masive contracts for a elite francise QB and a pro bowl LT in orlando brown, making one the highest paid player in the nfl and the other the biggest signing bonus for a oline man ever. Make the panthers owner do his job and nothing more bc i like the panthers and wanna see them succeed
Samething with my 9ers. Jed York use to meddle in every affair in the 9ers front office. He finally decided to concede and hire the right coach and gm and he is letting them do their job. Tepper needs to learn that this type of meddling doesn’t work
I think it's great that the Panthers are gonna go with a more "just run the play" type style with Bryce. I completely agree with you when you said it seems like Bryce is the only player on offense and has A LOT on his shoulders. The kid is young, fresh to the league, and doesn't seem to have much chemistry with his offense. They need to be playing games to build chemistry and confidence in the team. Run simple plays, get first downs. Let him see that even many small gains can lead to a Gain of points. Let him utilize the skills that are already present and let him capitalize on them while also building a foundation for him to work with.
So is Cj.. it’s actually was worse before the season started.. the difference is he is making avg talent better because of his play. That’s what top picks do.. they evaluate talent around them…
The problem with tanking is you’re in competition for who can tank the worst (best?). You can’t count on being the best of the worst for the #1 draft pick, and so you’re going to have to give up a king’s ransom to ensure you get that spot.
In the NFL as in life there are no shortcuts. Even if Young pans out they will likely waste his rookie contract, then when it’s time to pay him they will struggle to build a great team around him through free agency
HEY MIC Personal Experience as a Fan -> I was a colts fan since 2011-2023 of this year. Frank Reich I watched multiple years of my life. People often forget that some play calls were not good even with Andrew Luck. The problem to make it short is not Byrce Young but it really is Frank Reich. He is a great guy with a big heart but he is not a offensive head coach. Let me give you an example, Jeff Saturday the guy who had 0 college coaching experience beat the Raiders that year. Im telling you right now by Frank Reich giving up play calling duties the Panthers will see a different team come Sunday. It will take some time to get used to it but they will thrive. Frank Reich had play calling duties after firing the Offensive Coordinator him being the fall guy. When it was Frank's fault and we all knew it as fans. Ask any Indy fan how Frank Reich did as a playcaller. Frank Favored Carson Wentz who is an oblivious passer in my opinon. We lost games because of those terrible passes. That was indeed Carson but it also may have been Frank. Looking at the following year Matt Ryan 'Matty ice' the supposivley HOF QB from the Falcons. Yeah he was terrible. Both under Reich and under Saturday. But watch Ehlinger's highlights we really had a good star building in that lockeroom. I mean you could just feel the difference. Sam deserved to start he really did. But then in the offseason we went for Minshew which I love that pick up! Then got Richardson which he is well a rookie a lot of potential but defintley a rookie. He has gotta take better care of himself and not throw so high.. anyway - Again Frank Reich is a good guy but when it comes to head coach and having to call offensive plays he is not good. If you dont believe me watch the tape where he called offensive plays vs when he didnt. We looked like the biggest Clowns in history. The Jags made a mockery of us that historic painful loss ughhh. - Former Colts fan
I love how Mike says “the greatest prospect since:” and says it’s the NFL media every few years when the last time they said anything close to that was in like…2012.
DAVID TEPPER IS THE PERSON WHO IS AT FAULT FOR THIS TERRIBLE TEAM as a diehard Panthers Fan I'm deeply disappointed in the front office for quite a while now
Sorry, the cost to get young was not worth it. Dj Moore would have helped a young qb to develop better and there was still a possibility that you still could have drafted the qb at pick 7. This was just a team under desperation for a qb that gambled away pieces for it to stall, potentially to fail
Nah I don’t support tanking and any team suspected of it should be penalized by dropping their draft position. In hindsight though…that would of been their best move.
2023 greatest play: tush push. 1999 greatest show on Turf: Players: coach what's game plan this week? Coach: the same thing that made us the best offense. The Quarterback sneak.
I will never understand why you would draft a potentially transcendent QB if you don’t already have BARE MINIMUM a solid O-line. It’s literally just setting up that QB for failure
They drafted a sub six foot qb with an average arm and no scrambling ability. Gee who saw this cominng? Hes as good or as bad as mac or tua. He could be good but the panthers arent gonna hire the young genius coach and get him a true number one receiver he needs to be good in this league
I have an idea, since they can't do a traditional QB sneak, they could put a couple of Ol's in the backfield, let Young take the snap, then they can grab him and throw him over the line. Since the QB is in charge of the offense, they can call it the 'Boss Toss'
Panthers owner needs to learn from my 49ers owner to stay out of drafting players. Let the GM HC and scouts do their job. That's why they hired them. Don't be a Jerry Jones!! 🤣🤣🤣
the problem with the panthers is the whole offense. The Line, the rbs the wrs the tight end, and probably young. As it stands the only player they have on offense who is even playing near the league average is the RT. It is actually impressive
I know that when you get a rookie qb, it should take a while for them to earn the starting position, but if you start them right away, the team won't have many good outcomes until their 3rd year as starting because of the experience. Yeah it might not be next season, or even on his 3rd, but if they keep playing Bryce, forsure his fourth will be better than his first 3, if he's given that chance.
The Colts are in worse trouble, they have a QB who yanked himself out of a really close game at the end (first game of the season) because he had a sore ankle or bruised knee, just wow. Then he yanked himself out of the Houston Texans game for mild concussion symptoms. Missed the next 6 quarters of football, 🥲😆Then he went all "I've been shot" during the Titans game and started pointing to and tapping his shoulder (which was only a sprain 😂), hey, AR, rub some dirt on it !! Opted for surgery when most qualified opinions were that you don't do surgery on that exact "type" shoulder strain. As an example, Derek Carr played on a bum shoulder tonight & Trevor Lawrence was running 70 yards on a bum knee. And Patrick Mahomes plays on all sorts of painful injuries and Travis Kelce does the same (perhaps he has a different gear when Taylor Swift is watching). There's a thing called toughness that's missing in some players where others are injury prone....and a select few have both diseases.
Hindsight is always 20/20 and we're not even at hindsight yet. Stroud scored an embarrassing 18% on the S2 Cognition test while Young scored in the 98% percentile. I don't know much about the test aside from that it's purpose is to gauge the speed at which a player processes information. If the test is worth a damn, that's an important thing to know about a QB. Teams were worried about Stroud's score and blown away by Young's score. Stroud's offensive line is also way better than Carolina's line. I just saw a list that ranked the Texan's line at 12th in the League and Carolina's line at 27th. Most importantly, it's way too early to judge which QB is better. We're not even half way into their first season.
man if the bears decide to stick with fields they could trade both top 2 picks for so much. imagine having 5 or 6 first round pics the next couple years, and bunch of seconds too.
Panthers did what Ryan pace did when he was the gm for chicago. Traded up for a qb and gave up draft capital to do so when the team around him was bad.
Dude lives in a fantasy world lol. His obsession with the dumb rookie QB pay scale has him confused on how NFL rosters are constructed. Building a team w/o a QB is how you get Christian Ponder, Blane Gabbert, and Johnny Manziel going in the first round lol. You think the Lions draf Sewell if they didn’t have Goff? When a chance comes you invest all you need in order to get the QB you want. The rest can work itself out. Maybe 15 ppl in the world who can QB a SB team. You don’t pass em up bc “he won’t be on his rookie scale once youve built an O-line.” Someone need to tell Mike that maybe 2QBs the past 10yrs won a SB on their rookie scale.
@@zaycation8584 yeah,i never said he couldn't play football 🏈!!!i just don't think he will do great or be an elite qb in the nfl!!!and the sports content creators,podcasters,sports analysts,commentators or fans can't say it because or the organization that picked him or any organization that gets him in the future*because he will bounce around the nfl*i'm just saying him as a qb in the nfl doesn't look promising for him,and he doesn't look or seem like a franchise qb*any franchise*he iz an athlete but he should've changed positions when entering the league!!!🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️i don't wish bad on him,i just don't see his career being great or hall of fame worthy ever*yes i know he has just started too*i know i'm not the only one who sees or thinks this either!!!*obviously the team that picked him is seeing what i'm see also!!!*and that's bad,when the team that traded up to get you doesn't have to much hope in you*Don't Believe Me,Just Watch👀That's All I've Got To Say About This!!!*if i'm wrong i will definitely comeback and say...hey i was wrong,but right now I feel i won't be doing that!!!😜😂He's A BUST and i'm sticking to what i see and am calling him!!! #sorryNOTsorry 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
He’s too damn small dude I said it before he was drafted. Heigh issues throwing down field and arm talent barely above that of Mac Jones. I just don’t get how people can say it’s a coin flip between Bryce and CJ. CJ was always the first pick. Tall, poised, great arm with a tremendous ceiling. “204” lb frame.
As a panthers fan i just wanna say Frank Reich played David Tepper. Tepper thought he was getting an offensive coach to help his qb but reich is not up to date with the modern nfl and it shows every week. Get Bryce an actual smart offensive coach plus some weapons that arent bottom tier and he will flourish.
not a fan but never understood why they took a guy smaller than me when CJ stroud was available. all the elite qbs are like the same size at least height wise. allen, mahome, jackson, burrow, etc
I live an hour from Charlotte but the COWBOYS will always be my team! But that doesn't mean I can't pull for the panthers to but I think it was a horrible decision all the way around! They should of built the team up like you said then found their franchise QB and let it rip from there but hell by the time they are able to get weapons around him he's gonna be beaten and battered by then and will most likely be useless
100% on their ownership for pushing their chips all in on a 5’10 qb while stripping the team of assets. As a bear fan, we suck too, but thank you Carolina 🙏
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Stroud really worked on his feet work and passing at OSU. It was frustraiting at times when he didnt run like Young did. He won at the end for not bailing and running a lot. He learned
He preffers staying in the pocket it seems. But he can scramble avoid preasure really well it's not like he can't run just chooses to be a actual qb
@@Texansfan59 Absolutely, that's why as a Buckeye fan, many others were frustrated at times that he didn't utilize his legs more on certain downs or important late game situations. You definitely saw it in the Georgia game however.
Foot work*** 🤣
He’s a fast learner, as a Texans fan he is blessing us 🙏🏽
Tbh bro, Frank is failing Bryce so far. Not to mention Frank wanted Stroud. I’ll let you do your own research on that if you don’t believe me but Bryce was not a Frank Reich pick, he was a owner pick (Tepper) it was honestly noticeable in college how much better Stroud was and Bryce isn’t terrible by any means but Stroud is also in a better position and has advantages in his height as you see Bryce is working & is developing week by week with getting the ball out quicker… people keep saying the OL is sketchy but it’s not the OL… it’s Bryce not being able to see over the OL and he’s losing defenders in blitz plays and he’s gotta figure out how to make plays outta the pocket more often…. His ability to make plays on the run is Prime Russell Wilson like… he gotta activate it tho… that’s my opinion… that’s what I see ….
It takes about 3 yrs to see how draft picks pan out, not 1/3 of a season. Give them a chance.
The NFL rule of thumb is 24 games worth of playing time, preferably less. You should be able to tell what kind of QB he will be by then, whether he's your franchise QB, or a solid backup, or should be cut.
20 starts will tell you everything you need to know about a player
No, people play better during certain settings 😂 if I play in pads or in freezing cold I suck ass. Lol also it doesn’t cause what happened when you make perfect passes then your T.E and wr crumble from the pressure it’s not the qbs fault
@@wwbdwwbdI would not want Fields, but would like Stroud.
As a panthers fan I can say we def need a new owner stat.
Edit: glad they got the win yesterday however we still need a new owner
Uhhhh didn’t the Panthers just get bought by a group of owners? Almost none of which have ever played football before? Lol
@@TheModerateExtremist448 yo they did?
As a Bears fan who has your draft pick we also need a new owner ASAP
@@krucible9369 we have sm in common
@@poggerz_prodboth of our organizations are in hell rn 😂
I think it’s time the panthers find a Gm that actually gonna make some move like towards the o line cause we are lacking a o line and a star wide receiver Adam can’t be the only one with the work load
Getting another gm not going to fix it when you got a owner like David temper trying to be a Jerry Jones I'll pick players I want
I literally just said this watching undisputed right before this upload came out. Being drafted to a terrible team will ruin your image as a winner, which is why Caleb Williams' dad said his son won't go pro just to do so this year.
yeah but in reality tho, he will just get drafted to another dog shit team that sucks enough to get the #1 pick the next year lol
@@bigbirdflying6330 that’s facts 🤣😂 unless somebody trades up but that don’t happen often.
Great orgs don't get top draft picks unless a great QB is injured or retired or has a ton of injuries in many key positions.
Cj went to th worst team in football turnin out just fine for him 😂
@@Texansfan59Honestly Texans offensively had a lot of underrated talent especially at WR. Having a franchise LT helps as well. This is another factor in teams when you actually have guys step up like they did. Texans were only a QB and like 2 WRs away from competing in their division.
Well, our o line is missing both starting guards, and we didn't really have depth to replace them. That's issue 1. Issue 2 is the WR room. Issue 3 is a TON of injuries to our best defensive players. Honestly I think Bryce will be fine, but we need to take the rest of this year and look at a lot of young talent that we have, and let them develope.
My Texans were playing with 4 starting line men out, no excuses.
wr room is an issue? dj chark is a beast and adam is good as well .. haden hurst is a serviceable te trust me i know im a ravens fan he just was hurt and couldnt beat out mandrews
@@kiyanwest149 Chark is good but injury prone. Theilen is good but aging. Hurst is.. idk. I've had him on Fantasy in prior years and even this year, he's just not doing good. He had Burrow last year and still couldn't do anything. He basically only has 1-2 options and a very bad O-line. He was set up for failure..
@@PapaSwisha Your Texans also have decent receivers to throw to.. Tank Dell, Nico Collins, Dalton Schultz.. Young has Theilen and maybe Chark, if he's not injured and arguably, an even worse O-line.
I feel bad for Panthers fans after watching them last year especially after they traded CMC things were looking brighter, run blocking was great, defense was playing good, all they were missing was a pass game
Yeah, that's what happens when you have a coach in place that knows how to motivate a team to be more than the sum of it parts. That locker room loved Wilks and played hard for him.
Then Tepper hit the "self destruct" button and blew it all up in favor of a shiny "offensive minded coach". And so here we are.
@@Mnkylordwilks always gets the short end of the stick, he was given a terrible situation in arizona with josh rosen and a terrible roster and got one year, the panthers players literally advocated for wilks and the panthers still said fuck him
@@klasports8801it makes me sick
@@klasports8801I agree he hasn't gotten a good situation.
Lions and Seahawks are the masterclass in rebuilding. Seahawks I guess would be a retooling but turning into a rebuild. Both are going great so far. I always knew Goff was above average and I'm glad he is finally getting his credit.
Only took lions 50 years lol
Lol lose for 20 plus seasons and finally hit on a team and it’s now a masterclass.
4:17 why is it blurred out for? Copyright nonsense?
I guess so
I know this video is about Bryce Young and the Panthers, but finally my Lions are getting some love.
Bro lions are legit! I’m rooting for them they’ve been an underdog and laughed at for years but now they’re one of the most dangerous teams in the league. You should be proud how far your team has come.
Because they don’t hold their first round pick 😅Bears about to reload with first and second pick lol😂😅
That's a fact.
As a Bears hater I have to applaud them for that bc MAN that is tough lol
@@whatssogoodaboutindy6696 this is crazy for Justin Fields
@@silversoulken this is crazy for Justin Fields
Imagine if Justin Fields was their future. They’d be looking at contending in a couple years. But there’s no way they don’t use one of those picks on a QB; Fields struggles can’t be blamed on the team around him. If they could spend those picks on ANYTHING but a QB the Bears would have a potentially bright future. Now, it’s just another rebuild.
Bryce Young can totally bounce back from his early struggles. After watching both Tua and Josh Allen early in their careers I’m not as quick to write players off.
Peyton Manning though I don’t think Bryce is that type of QB.
Josh Allen with a cannon for an arm and tua who was always good just got hurt alot? Yeah it wasn't hard to see lmao not sure who would have wrote them off. Bryce is very different
This is simply not true. You know who is going to be good or who might turn out good because they give you a glimpse of what they can do and Young has not shown that one time.
From a fins fan, if you guys remember the same thing happened with burrow and Herbert about tua. And look at tua now. One problem I see if Reich doesn't believe in him, this will cause issues. IE- Brian flores compared to Mike McDaniel. But once bryce finds his nfl legs, he'll be fine I think. Build pieces around him and watch him grow! #finsup
Tua atleast could see over the line and looked like am NFL player his first year . Young looks like a college basketball player
Everyone thinks every young nfl qb will be successful. Which isn’t the case only like 1 or 2 out of every draft class become successful
This situation is slightly different then miamis. Reich wanted young I believe but the problem is reich. Tua is thriving coz he has a young coach who can relate to tua, talk to tua in a way for him to understand. Mike Mcdaniel is young enough to relate to tua so he can talk to him more easier, get him to understand the playbook and the nfl then flores ever will. Young’s problem is he doesn’t understand the nfl game or the playbook or what reich wants him to do. Reich is from a older generation who did things differently. Bryce is from a new generation, our generation we do things differently and unfortunately reich doesn’t understand this generations ways of doing things. He doesnt speak the language that is required to help him learn the game. I think reich finally understands this which is y he is turning the play calling to his OC who can relate to him. Hopefully brown can get through to him and is teaching him in a way where he will finally understand and can start turning the corner.
This team was playing super well underneath the leadership of Steve Wilks and I thought for sure he would of been retained. I swear this team would of been competitive with Steve at the helm.
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They did, they drafted Ickey Ekownu last year as the franchise LT. He's been fine. Moton the RT is still solid. Our problem is bout our starting guards are out, one got put on IR after week , and our other one is currently working back from an acl tear from the final game of last year, he should be coming back after the bye. Notice how all of Young's pressures are from the interior o line.
Dude has already allowed 3 sacks and Moton has been okay…. Linemen being out should NOT be a problem 😂 A perfect example is Houston, they had 1 starter on their offensive line until week 5 and in week 4 when they went against a Steelers defense they allowed 0 sacks and that’s because some guy that got signed a week before was playing…. Houston has been getting healthier every week but the main reasons for success is their OC and HC and QB which is what the panthers don’t have currently but the panthers are struggling from more then just that….
Two points:
1) The Panthers organization deserves this for their despicable treatment of Steve Wilks. As an interim head coach, he had that team in playoff contention (albeit in the joke NFC South) at the end of the year after they traded the best player on the team (Christian McCaffrey). Consider that the Panthers ran the ball much better when Wilks led the team despite not having McCaffrey than they did with Matt Rhule as head coach, and McCaffrey as RB.
It's even worse when you consider that Frank Reich participated in a memo decrying the lack of Afirican-American head coaches, yet he took the spot occupied by Wilks.
2) Regarding tanking, you're proving Brian Flores' argument for him that owners would prefer head coaches that are total wastoids so they can get the #1 overall when they would then replace that head coach with another one than a head coach who can make a team play better than its talent.
However, you'll have to explain why that isn't anything different than the 1919 White Sox throwing the World Series. After all, an owner who wants a head coach to lose through numerous means is just as bad if not worse than players deliberately losing.
It also is irrelevant if the GM can't draft players. The Bengals in the 1990's had numerous high draft picks yet they only resulted in players like David Klingler, Dan Wilkinson or Ki-Jana Carter.
2 very good points
My team is a clown organization right now. I'm fucking livid that they were this bad after hiring the "best" staff available. Doing all the off season moves. Who knew that getting rid of all your play makers to get that Franchise QB would be a bad move. lol. This organization is making ass backwards moves and it all starts at the top. David Tepper is the reason all this is happening. It doesn't matter if he is the 2nd wealthiest owner in the NFL. The NFL isn't a hedge fund you can just run it like that. Bryce needs better coaches and my god get him a damn weapon and a better O-line. Unfortunately Tepper chose wrong and did not pick Steve Wilks who had the locker room. Tepper needs to let NFL people make the decisions and let them do NFL things. Get your hands off the team and let people work.
I wanted Wilkes also, but this kid has weapons lol he just can't seem to get them the ball
NOBODY had that energy when drafting young but now that everyone has seen just how good Stroud is of course people are going to flip and say they should have taken stroud
Facts
I don't know why all these black qbs get so many chances most of them are terrible
As a Texans fan I will say I truly hope BY has a good career but BOY am I glad Carolina passed on CJ!
Facts
True, but remember when they were clowning the Texans for our trade up for Will Anderson? 💀
Really, just be glad Texans won in overtime in the final gm last yr. That's why texans got CJ bc if theyd lost theyd have picked BY. Texans front office, even at pick 2, were still split on if they should take CJ (per John McClain). Some wanted Will at 2 and to wait til Caleb, Drake, etc hit the draft.
@reidawg72 bro the only people that knew what the Texans were gonna do is Caserio and Ryans. Nobody else knew and that's coming from Demeco's mouth.
To me stroud comes up to the line with confidence, he throws.. with confidence.. He knows the plays being called.. He understands when people will be open.. To me this early, stroud is incredibly talented.. but has to be equally so as a hard worker/ learner to pull that off. His stature gives him great view of his wide receivers in the pocket. A recipe for success.
Bryce young is shorter, and can't get through his progressions quickly enough apparently. With time it'll get better, but the flaws will show way earlier
Facts! I keep telling people...besides the obvious (size, arm strength, arm talent etc) the less obvious but crucial differences between CJ and Bryce are from the huddle to the throw. CJ is faster and much more polished. His pre snap reads, post snap progressions and moves. His throwing mechanics. All superior. Panthers receivers get open...the problem is Bryce misses the windows and by the time he makes his mind up....They DBs have already caught up and they're 20 yards down field where Bryce is NOT accurate. Never has been. He keeps targeting Theilen cause his routes keep him the closest and he's rarely defended by the opposing teams best DB. Bryce is super accurate within 10 yards. Over 10 yards he's not so accurate....especially in the flats. This is analytical data per college and the NFL. The OL and receivers are getting too much blame for stuff Bryce himself needs to work on.
Cj knows the plays coz the 49ers offense that slowik is running is quarterback friendly and designed for any quarterback. Bobby slowik was mentored and developed by kyle shanahan on how to not only run it but to design and tweak it to any quarterback. It also doesnt hurt that slowik is young enough to relate and can talk to cj stroud a lot more easier about the nfl and how to run the offense. Young’s problem is its reich that is teaching him and he doesn’t talk the same language as young much less relate to the quarterback of this generation. Thats partly y young isn’t performing coz he has a disconnect to his coach. He cant relate to reich.
@@AznIntegra521 yeah I don't know, The panthers are struggling at every position. i wouldnt pin it on just being the disconnect to the coach. His stature, lack of key players, a new offense. It's basically doomed to fail
Ryan Day seemed to love CJ more than anybody else he coached at QB.
You're so wrong about byrce
Young looks like my pot head friend that always wears a hoodie
Jacksonville didn't ruin Trevor Lawrence after that bad first year
These people just want something to talk about. Cinn didn’t ruin burrows first year either. Bryce will be fine.
Jacksonville didn't trade up for Trevor Lawrence
@@craigmills6275burrow tore his acl his first season 😂
The Coach Or Owner Aren't At Fault The Lil Man Is Just Too Small To Be A QB In This Generations NFL!!!The Linemen Are Taller And Bigger And The Defense Is Taller,Bigger And Faster Then Years Gone By!!!I Don't Think B.Young Will Have Success In The NFL No Matter What Team He's On,Simply Because Of His Size!!!He Should've Actually Changed Positions Like Other College QB's Have Done!!!If You Don't Believe Me Just Watch And Of Coarse The Media Will Be All On Him,Until He Either Shows He Belongs Or Gives Up!!!He Was Nice In College But The NFL Isn't College And You Can See Already That B.Young Wasn't Ready For This Major Transition!!!So...Yes,He'll Get Paid But He Will Not Be A Elite QB In The NFL Ever!!!🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️Sorry It's Not Rocket 🚀 Science...Anyone That Knows A Lil About The NFL Can Watch And See B.Young Isn't That Guy For Carolina Or Any NFL Team At The QB Position!!!And I Believe That His Coaches,Owner And Even Himself Know That...Nope,Naw,No Way To Him Being A Starting QB That Will Make A Difference Or Make Any Noise At All In The NFL!!!I Could See Him Maybe As A WR's But Nope,Naw,No Way Not At QB In This League!!!So...The Coach Or Owner Didn't Mess Up His Career In The NFL Already...Simply Because He Wasn't And Isn't Going To Have That Kind Of NFL Career Everyone Thought Or Hoped He Would!!!*in my opinion of coarse,but just watch!!!i don't want to be the one to say i told ya so but...I WILL BE THAT GUY TO TELL YA,I TOLD YA SO!!!*🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️Don't Blame And Can't Blame Any Coach,Owner,Or Organization For His Career Not Being The Best To Start Or Moving Foward*you can't blame noone*It's His Size At His Position,That's Who's To Blame #Smdh 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️Good-Luck Lil Man!!!😜😂*sorry it's not funny,but it is true though*All I Can Say Is...JUST WATCH👀And You'll See👀An NFL QB He Shouldn't Be👀,Sorry!!!
@@Mikerophoneokay and.. It doesn't change the fact that most first year QBs especially those drafted in the top ten struggle because there is a reason why the team is picking that high and those are the worse teams from the previous season and it doesn't help that they traded or release many power players, so let's see what happens
Chicago traded Bryce Young for Caleb Williams, DJ Moore, and a collection of picks lol
Looks like they made the right decision bryce aint it. Coulda got cj tho
You are so correct. They made the dumbest trade ever. They gave up way too much. The owner set both Bryce and Frank Reich up for failure. The owner has no idea how to build a team.
Until the eagles revolutionized the Tush push I had never heard anyone cop out saying something like "yea, well, our big weakness is short yardage situations and Bryce young is small"....no one was ever complaining about not being able to run the MIGHTY QB sneak move. Just seems like a major cop out for being unable to get 1 yard when they need to.
I'm a panthers fan and I thought we shoulda taken CJ Stroud the whole time, and then seeing Baker do so well with the Bucs (who I hate) after Matt Rhule choke his success last year just hurts.
Chicago is seriously about to have the #1 overall pick in next years draft. What a steal the bears got haha
They'll probably blow it . The bears don't have a great track record of building great teams in the past 30 plus years .
Aside from Tua and Hurst, Alabama QB's don't normally perform up to their college once they make it to the NFL. Because their draft position is overrated based on the performance of the team.
McElroy, Jones, McCaron - Alabama QBs are thee definition of system players. Which is why they tank once they go to a new system
great breakdown and analysis mike! all sides and perspectives covered.
I feel like this year has shown how important the team around the QB actually is. Defenses are absolutely slapping QBs this year. Build the Oline and Dline, get some skill guys. And go find a qb that fits your system and would fit in the locker room and you have a winner. Unless you have a time machine and can go back and draft mohomes, then you should just do that
Stroud is still an Ohio state QB.
Lookin sharp Mike! I like the blazer
I didn’t expect a playoff appearance form this year. All I think they need to do is continue to get better and improve. Which I think they have done a great deal of since the first game. That being said, they have a lot of cap space, take some one year proveed deals and see what happens. Then next year hit in draft picks.
Yea they’re not the lions buddy 🫤
@@Fam1stCEO no really
@@Fam1stCEOSo it won't take them 10 years to get back in the playoffs?
@@40EastTrill panthers last playoff appearance 2017 ….. lions 2016 🥴🥴🤷🏽♂️ who’s closer to breaking that streak 🤔🤔🤣🤣 oh yea right not the panthers
@@Fam1stCEO Who's been longer? Who has never even sniffed a Super Bowl? You haven't even won a playoff game since the Panthers been existence 😂. Don't let your recent success go to your head. IT'S ABOUT TIME 😂
Let’s not forget that the panthers weren’t even the worst team last year. They traded up so there’s no excuse for them to be even worse after drafting their supposedly franchise qb.
the excuse is reich and the defense getting injured
Thank you for finally bringing up the Lions!💯
Thanks from Houston
This is why organizations and people should NEVER rely on a quarterback to solve ALL their problems when their team has other issues to fix.
Never draft a QB to solve everything like a handyman!!
I hated the trade. It didn’t make sense for so many assets to be traded away when we already had a first overall coming up the very next year. Loved DJ Moore too
dj moore caleb william in NC would of been dope
Love your video Mike and keep up the great work
As a Panthers fan how can you think you're going to have a great season when you traded away your best RB you don't have great wr your QB doesn't have any protection and your defense is the worst and you get a new coach in 1st year and new system it going to take a few years unless you either a do like the rams did trade away your future in draft picks and take on a huge cap or draft and find that jewel of a pick in draft and not get a crying leaf.
5’10” 200 lbs. The owner thought he was the answer. Yea put down the sauce bud!
I'm a bengals fan and when Mike Brown stopped meadiling in every single affair of his team, we got better in every way. Finally a indoor pratice field, finally a ring of honor and ohhh wait whats that? Its a afc championship and another appearance the next year. Masive contracts for a elite francise QB and a pro bowl LT in orlando brown, making one the highest paid player in the nfl and the other the biggest signing bonus for a oline man ever. Make the panthers owner do his job and nothing more bc i like the panthers and wanna see them succeed
Samething with my 9ers. Jed York use to meddle in every affair in the 9ers front office. He finally decided to concede and hire the right coach and gm and he is letting them do their job. Tepper needs to learn that this type of meddling doesn’t work
I think it's great that the Panthers are gonna go with a more "just run the play" type style with Bryce.
I completely agree with you when you said it seems like Bryce is the only player on offense and has A LOT on his shoulders. The kid is young, fresh to the league, and doesn't seem to have much chemistry with his offense. They need to be playing games to build chemistry and confidence in the team. Run simple plays, get first downs. Let him see that even many small gains can lead to a Gain of points. Let him utilize the skills that are already present and let him capitalize on them while also building a foundation for him to work with.
Tepper will keep meddling, and this team will not prosper, unless he gets out of the way.
At the 12:00 mark Mike puts it perfect. He's in a bad situation so don't judge so harshly he has looked good!
So is Cj.. it’s actually was worse before the season started.. the difference is he is making avg talent better because of his play. That’s what top picks do.. they evaluate talent around them…
The problem with tanking is you’re in competition for who can tank the worst (best?). You can’t count on being the best of the worst for the #1 draft pick, and so you’re going to have to give up a king’s ransom to ensure you get that spot.
Can you do a lions video
204 LBS? That's hilarious. Dude is 185 TOPS.
In the NFL as in life there are no shortcuts. Even if Young pans out they will likely waste his rookie contract, then when it’s time to pay him they will struggle to build a great team around him through free agency
HEY MIC Personal Experience as a Fan -> I was a colts fan since 2011-2023 of this year. Frank Reich I watched multiple years of my life. People often forget that some play calls were not good even with Andrew Luck. The problem to make it short is not Byrce Young but it really is Frank Reich. He is a great guy with a big heart but he is not a offensive head coach. Let me give you an example, Jeff Saturday the guy who had 0 college coaching experience beat the Raiders that year. Im telling you right now by Frank Reich giving up play calling duties the Panthers will see a different team come Sunday. It will take some time to get used to it but they will thrive.
Frank Reich had play calling duties after firing the Offensive Coordinator him being the fall guy. When it was Frank's fault and we all knew it as fans. Ask any Indy fan how Frank Reich did as a playcaller.
Frank Favored Carson Wentz who is an oblivious passer in my opinon. We lost games because of those terrible passes. That was indeed Carson but it also may have been Frank. Looking at the following year Matt Ryan 'Matty ice' the supposivley HOF QB from the Falcons. Yeah he was terrible. Both under Reich and under Saturday. But watch Ehlinger's highlights we really had a good star building in that lockeroom. I mean you could just feel the difference. Sam deserved to start he really did. But then in the offseason we went for Minshew which I love that pick up! Then got Richardson which he is well a rookie a lot of potential but defintley a rookie. He has gotta take better care of himself and not throw so high.. anyway -
Again Frank Reich is a good guy but when it comes to head coach and having to call offensive plays he is not good.
If you dont believe me watch the tape where he called offensive plays vs when he didnt. We looked like the biggest Clowns in history. The Jags made a mockery of us that historic painful loss ughhh.
- Former Colts fan
cj wouldve been so good, but the coaching and front office staff would do everything to not make it work.
I love how Mike says “the greatest prospect since:” and says it’s the NFL media every few years when the last time they said anything close to that was in like…2012.
As a Texans fan , Cj is him .
DAVID TEPPER IS THE PERSON WHO IS AT FAULT FOR THIS TERRIBLE TEAM as a diehard Panthers Fan I'm deeply disappointed in the front office for quite a while now
Sorry, the cost to get young was not worth it. Dj Moore would have helped a young qb to develop better and there was still a possibility that you still could have drafted the qb at pick 7. This was just a team under desperation for a qb that gambled away pieces for it to stall, potentially to fail
Nah I don’t support tanking and any team suspected of it should be penalized by dropping their draft position. In hindsight though…that would of been their best move.
2023 greatest play: tush push.
1999 greatest show on Turf:
Players: coach what's game plan this week?
Coach: the same thing that made us the best offense. The Quarterback sneak.
It’s not difficult to say about RG3 before injury he was balling idk what you were watching lmao 😂
i’ve always said cj was the best qb in the draft no one believed me
I was in the same place. No one agreed with me he was a beast.
Panthers def should of gotten CJ Stroud. Was my favorite QB coming out the draft. Glad he doing well
how much his hair weigh? ain't no way he weighs more than 192. that is not 204
Can you pls make a video about cj about how much he’s having success as a rookie.
They're on the 3 year plan looking for Arch lol
I will never understand why you would draft a potentially transcendent QB if you don’t already have BARE MINIMUM a solid O-line. It’s literally just setting up that QB for failure
It's so hard being a Panthers fan rn
“Past his prime Adam Thielen”?!?!? Bro have you seen what Thielen has been doing even with a rookie qb?!? You’re OUT OF YOUR MIND FOR SAYING THAT!
They drafted a sub six foot qb with an average arm and no scrambling ability. Gee who saw this cominng? Hes as good or as bad as mac or tua. He could be good but the panthers arent gonna hire the young genius coach and get him a true number one receiver he needs to be good in this league
Really 5’8 1/2 180 🥹
Stroud was number one. Young was all hype since jump. Like honestly the dude is too small. I’ll eat my foot if he’s ever a pro bowler.
kyler is small and he won offensive rookie of the year and still put up good numbers after that. bryce will be fine
Why never any videos about Pittsburgh and Matt Canada. Wouldn't mind hearing your opinion on Kenny Pickett.
I have an idea, since they can't do a traditional QB sneak, they could put a couple of Ol's in the backfield, let Young take the snap, then they can grab him and throw him over the line. Since the QB is in charge of the offense, they can call it the 'Boss Toss'
Panthers owner needs to learn from my 49ers owner to stay out of drafting players. Let the GM HC and scouts do their job. That's why they hired them. Don't be a Jerry Jones!! 🤣🤣🤣
the problem with the panthers is the whole offense. The Line, the rbs the wrs the tight end, and probably young. As it stands the only player they have on offense who is even playing near the league average is the RT. It is actually impressive
Thielen
I know that when you get a rookie qb, it should take a while for them to earn the starting position, but if you start them right away, the team won't have many good outcomes until their 3rd year as starting because of the experience. Yeah it might not be next season, or even on his 3rd, but if they keep playing Bryce, forsure his fourth will be better than his first 3, if he's given that chance.
The Colts are in worse trouble, they have a QB who yanked himself out of a really close game at the end (first game of the season) because he had a sore ankle or bruised knee, just wow. Then he yanked himself out of the Houston Texans game for mild concussion symptoms. Missed the next 6 quarters of football, 🥲😆Then he went all "I've been shot" during the Titans game and started pointing to and tapping his shoulder (which was only a sprain 😂), hey, AR, rub some dirt on it !! Opted for surgery when most qualified opinions were that you don't do surgery on that exact "type" shoulder strain. As an example, Derek Carr played on a bum shoulder tonight & Trevor Lawrence was running 70 yards on a bum knee. And Patrick Mahomes plays on all sorts of painful injuries and Travis Kelce does the same (perhaps he has a different gear when Taylor Swift is watching). There's a thing called toughness that's missing in some players where others are injury prone....and a select few have both diseases.
Bryce young was the best qb in college football last year. Cj stroud was a close 2nd but you gotta lean with Bryce.
Nope, CJ was the best Qb in college last year
I can't believe they just gave all that up for that 1 pick...
Hindsight is always 20/20 and we're not even at hindsight yet. Stroud scored an embarrassing 18% on the S2 Cognition test while Young scored in the 98% percentile. I don't know much about the test aside from that it's purpose is to gauge the speed at which a player processes information. If the test is worth a damn, that's an important thing to know about a QB. Teams were worried about Stroud's score and blown away by Young's score. Stroud's offensive line is also way better than Carolina's line. I just saw a list that ranked the Texan's line at 12th in the League and Carolina's line at 27th. Most importantly, it's way too early to judge which QB is better. We're not even half way into their first season.
Stroud also gets rid of the ball way faster than anyone else right now. That helps the OL score significantly.
man if the bears decide to stick with fields they could trade both top 2 picks for so much. imagine having 5 or 6 first round pics the next couple years, and bunch of seconds too.
Panthers did what Ryan pace did when he was the gm for chicago. Traded up for a qb and gave up draft capital to do so when the team around him was bad.
Dude lives in a fantasy world lol. His obsession with the dumb rookie QB pay scale has him confused on how NFL rosters are constructed. Building a team w/o a QB is how you get Christian Ponder, Blane Gabbert, and Johnny Manziel going in the first round lol.
You think the Lions draf Sewell if they didn’t have Goff? When a chance comes you invest all you need in order to get the QB you want. The rest can work itself out. Maybe 15 ppl in the world who can QB a SB team. You don’t pass em up bc “he won’t be on his rookie scale once youve built an O-line.” Someone need to tell Mike that maybe 2QBs the past 10yrs won a SB on their rookie scale.
They Basically Have Ruined It!!!I Just Don't Think B.Young Is Pro Material Really!!!But...Guess We'll See Huh!!!🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
He's actually played better than I thought
@@zaycation8584 yeah,i never said he couldn't play football 🏈!!!i just don't think he will do great or be an elite qb in the nfl!!!and the sports content creators,podcasters,sports analysts,commentators or fans can't say it because or the organization that picked him or any organization that gets him in the future*because he will bounce around the nfl*i'm just saying him as a qb in the nfl doesn't look promising for him,and he doesn't look or seem like a franchise qb*any franchise*he iz an athlete but he should've changed positions when entering the league!!!🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️i don't wish bad on him,i just don't see his career being great or hall of fame worthy ever*yes i know he has just started too*i know i'm not the only one who sees or thinks this either!!!*obviously the team that picked him is seeing what i'm see also!!!*and that's bad,when the team that traded up to get you doesn't have to much hope in you*Don't Believe Me,Just Watch👀That's All I've Got To Say About This!!!*if i'm wrong i will definitely comeback and say...hey i was wrong,but right now I feel i won't be doing that!!!😜😂He's A BUST and i'm sticking to what i see and am calling him!!! #sorryNOTsorry 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Idk why this funny 😂😂😂
The Houston situation on offense is much better prepared to take in a rookie QB
LT ✅
WRs ✅
RB ✅
Bryce is probably a sweetheart, a nice human. It's a regret that is only a regret financially
He’s too damn small dude I said it before he was drafted. Heigh issues throwing down field and arm talent barely above that of Mac Jones. I just don’t get how people can say it’s a coin flip between Bryce and CJ.
CJ was always the first pick. Tall, poised, great arm with a tremendous ceiling.
“204” lb frame.
he’s not too small and he literally has zero height issues. he’s been able to play just fine.
Kyler isn’t a top 10 Qb
As a panthers fan i just wanna say Frank Reich played David Tepper. Tepper thought he was getting an offensive coach to help his qb but reich is not up to date with the modern nfl and it shows every week. Get Bryce an actual smart offensive coach plus some weapons that arent bottom tier and he will flourish.
not a fan but never understood why they took a guy smaller than me when CJ stroud was available. all the elite qbs are like the same size at least height wise. allen, mahome, jackson, burrow, etc
wait so if panthers skid continues bears get a Number 1 pick back? rofl... bears could pick 1 and 2 next draft at this rate :)
Trade CMC
Trade DJ Moore
Draft Bryce Young
Whose making these decisions?!
Im sure they could've traded cmc for that 1st overall pick alone
Adam Theilen has been playing great. He’s easily my fantasy teams beat receiver now that Jefferson is out and Higgins and Lockett are doing nothing
I'm glad Houston won that game to the Colts , it was the best thing that ever happened to the Texans.
These videos are okay (depending on the day of the week, Mike needs another drink)
Stroud was easily best #1 pick! If for size alone
I live an hour from Charlotte but the COWBOYS will always be my team! But that doesn't mean I can't pull for the panthers to but I think it was a horrible decision all the way around! They should of built the team up like you said then found their franchise QB and let it rip from there but hell by the time they are able to get weapons around him he's gonna be beaten and battered by then and will most likely be useless
Cowboys. Still choking the big ones. Sad.
Bryce should have picked a different career hes to damn tiny
He’s making great money even it’s only he’s rookie deal. He’s made the right choice
his size hasn’t impacted him in any way though?
100% on their ownership for pushing their chips all in on a 5’10 qb while stripping the team of assets. As a bear fan, we suck too, but thank you Carolina 🙏
As a Cardinals fan the Panthers need to start winning some damn games and the Texans need to start losing so we can get better picks.
We only won 2 games and lost 13 what the hell do u expect