no worries - Thomas reviews all sorts, eBikes, vans, buses, food, travel, tyres - he could review a coffee cup or a brick and we'd get all the little interesting details, and we'd really enjoy watching the video! We hope he gets a chance to review more interesting machines and devices. Cheers.
Mb citaro is by far the best city bus and all the transport organizations should have it in their lineup. Brilliant that they keep up with the latest tech and produce the electric version.
@Autogefuhl, I think it's great that you are branching out to other forms of mobility as mobility is starting to play an even bigger role not just in the need for the world to be truly sustainable but for how people will live, work and socialise in the future. As you also pointed out in the video that air quality is being recognised as a major factor in the deterioration of people's health and well being today, and the number of people watching your videos from big cities is increasing all the time which means that this is starting to become a lot more relevant to people. London already has a few only electric bus routes with the USB charging ports and it won't be long before we start seeing these ECitaros buzzing about. Citaros were once popular in London in the form of the 15m bendy bus but that caused so many problems in terms of causing traffic, catching fire and killing a lot of cyclists which is why they were taken off. These Citaros will be a welcomed sight once gain and i look forward to seeing them.
Does this electric bus cost expensive for low budget country like Macedonia-Skopje.Mayor of center city gave info on tv he will import new electric bus for city because 2floor buses from a China spend alot of oil and fuel.
Enjoyed your review as always. Cheap fuel, the infrastructure of the roadways, and the low density of housing still limits the use of buses where I live in Colorado USA. But the day is coming sooner than we think when driving an automobile, especially one propelled by a fossil fuel, will be a luxury. I am one who appreciates the broad coverage that you always do of automotive-vehicle transportation.
@Autogefühl; Electric buses typical use nominal 600 V battery / motors. What is nominal voltage for the ECitaro? Is the CCS charger HPC CCS (350 kW class)? What is max kW charging? Are Oppcharge (reverse roof pantograph) planned for ECitaro?
As batteries take over, disposal and recycling of old batteries should become more cost effective. I think that the manufacturer should be responsible for changing out the batteries and recycling or refurbishing old ones.
In the city of Porto in Portugal, the Caetanobus a local company has already start to delivery there own electric bus. E-city gold. Totally developed um Portugal They are very good. Mercedes is been left behind.
Polish SOLARIS buses (also available as full electric) offer many USB sockets to passengers already. We have different generations of them in our city and if it has LED headlights, the USB’s are usually there too:)
Mercedes body and drivetrain. Buses and coaches are different than cars in that the body could be built by one manufacturer and platform & drivetrain by another. Hence it could have two different logos... But yeah, in this case they should the dropped the little one.
You're absolutely correct. .i'll say that what should have been done in this case of the eCitaro is to size a smaller size star logo & increase the space seperation between the M-B coin badge & the star logo, like how it's done with the last generation facelift Citaro. That placement is about right in the proportion & spacing. They should not go overboard with change for the sake of change & instead stick with what's 'proven' & only 'change' if there's any 'real case' to do so. High time Daimler exercise more consistency across their entire product portfolio & communicate this philosophy to their various design people in the various vehicle types so that everybody can speak the same design language ! This makes it also easier on the customer perception on what to expect each time they look at a Mercedes-Benz irregardless of type or model.
Jan Šinkovec Cheap farm products, animal shit, people shit, animal breathing and overall dead bodies of "civilization" produces waaaay more CO2, NOx and other nasty stuff.
Germany always at the forefront on electric power technology. Mercedes Benz producing the necessary, technology to protect our environment. Gorgeous bus.
I would love to see in areas like Essen or Düs, that all large state vehicles must be switched to electric. The garbage collection, buses and such. Maybe even DHL and other delivery vans. Those trucks are so loud if you live anywhere near the big roads.
I saw the concept in person in Frankfurt. This still looks great, but I would be slightly concerned about the battery modules on the roof. Doesn't that make them really unstable? Also, do they have any of the self-driving features of the concept?
It is so great that it is modular. So they can swap out the old batteries for better ones in the future when they can store more energy in the same space. Great!
These electric buses would transform an inner city environment currently using i.c.e. buses both in terms of noise and air pollution. Hopefully all metropolitan areas will introduce them very soon.
The VDL Citea E-Worker changing system is smarter and faster (it's like the electric transfer of a tram og electric train on certain destinations) But what's next from Daimler? Wouldn't it be smarter to mount the battery pack like a normal PKW lower in the chassis? But all the advantages of an electric system is know news, it is just smarter. No matter the system I really hope for this future sooner.
It's a start, but they can and will do so much better with a roof full of PV's. Lose the fabric seats...bad idea! They will most likely go to high power recharging with a high power charger mounted on the roof that could allow ultra fast recharging modules perhaps in 440V?
Nice coverage, it's really fun see the progress in the auto industry. And it's so quiet and relaxing riding an electric bus. Volvo has a fullscale test of electric busses in regular traffic in Gothenburg. Come and visit Thomas! :-)
Why dont they just put 2 tesla like batteris in the bottom they only cost about 10.000 each to produce it would lower the center of gravity And it would allow for a lower overall height
Great video, as always. 😊 Thomas you need to get a bus license.. You really wanted to drive it! 😂 I'm Israel 🇮🇱 we have electric busses for years now. They are working great. The charging solution is different here.
I like the bus. I find cycling near diesel powered buses uncomfortable for my ears because the bus engines are so loud. Quieter buses will be good for all of us. What is the braking distance from 30mph during an emergency stop? Can the batteries be quickly swapped for fully charged ones?
Awesome! We already have 10 Solaris electric buses in the city, with 120km range ... but as I understand it, they are manufactured in low volume, so all manufacturers need to switch to electric ASAP.
Qbuzz is using VDL electric busses in the north of the Netherlands already :). As far as I know they don't tip over, there are always people in the bus, so that lowers the centre of gravity quite a lot. farm5.static.flickr.com/4515/26804604299_dbb1c859c0_b.jpg The charging is done actually pretty cool, it looks bit like the old trolley busses. www.verkeerinbeeld.nl/static/site/img/module/content/article/30371/header.jpg
Hi Thomas, I was wondering what are your thoughts on the rumours that manufacturing full electric vehicle and its components produces more CO2 gases than the gases exhausted by a gasoline engine running for 10 years?
Archie Makuwa the range is good enough for a city bus. you won't be going fast, and since it's mostly stop and go, you'll be recuperating energy via the brakes
@@autogefuehl yeah i saw it... anyone who has ever driven a city line knows 150-250km range is a joke. You cant work whit that. It needs at least 350-400km range
You know you have an amazing presenter when the audience is utterly amazed by a bus review. Fantastic as always, Autogefuhl!
:-)
Well Thomas, you've got a new objective. Get your bus driver license!
I wouldn't have expected you to review this, nice one.
no worries - Thomas reviews all sorts, eBikes, vans, buses, food, travel, tyres - he could review a coffee cup or a brick and we'd get all the little interesting details, and we'd really enjoy watching the video! We hope he gets a chance to review more interesting machines and devices. Cheers.
This channel just got x10 times better! I'd love more videos about buses !
Nice Mercedes review :) I hope to see this on the streets soon. We have in Nürnberg also an electric bus, from Solaris.
Amazing German quality, design and city transport by Mercedes!!! Thanks for great video!
Agree, good transportation from Mercedes! ⚡👍
Mb citaro is by far the best city bus and all the transport organizations should have it in their lineup. Brilliant that they keep up with the latest tech and produce the electric version.
Thank you so much to show us not only Electric cars !
Next review: boeing 747
hehe
e747
Great
In Full HD Full Lenght also ? 😂
I think I’ll buy this
are you a bus fleet owner?
Autogefühl I guess that was just a joke.
@Autogefuhl, I think it's great that you are branching out to other forms of mobility as mobility is starting to play an even bigger role not just in the need for the world to be truly sustainable but for how people will live, work and socialise in the future. As you also pointed out in the video that air quality is being recognised as a major factor in the deterioration of people's health and well being today, and the number of people watching your videos from big cities is increasing all the time which means that this is starting to become a lot more relevant to people. London already has a few only electric bus routes with the USB charging ports and it won't be long before we start seeing these ECitaros buzzing about. Citaros were once popular in London in the form of the 15m bendy bus but that caused so many problems in terms of causing traffic, catching fire and killing a lot of cyclists which is why they were taken off. These Citaros will be a welcomed sight once gain and i look forward to seeing them.
thanks for the feedback!
Does this electric bus cost expensive for low budget country like Macedonia-Skopje.Mayor of center city gave info on tv he will import new electric bus for city because 2floor buses from a China spend alot of oil and fuel.
Enjoyed your review as always. Cheap fuel, the infrastructure of the roadways, and the low density of housing still limits the use of buses where I live in Colorado USA. But the day is coming sooner than we think when driving an automobile, especially one propelled by a fossil fuel, will be a luxury. I am one who appreciates the broad coverage that you always do of automotive-vehicle transportation.
appreciated !!
@Autogefühl; Electric buses typical use nominal 600 V battery / motors. What is nominal voltage for the ECitaro?
Is the CCS charger HPC CCS (350 kW class)? What is max kW charging?
Are Oppcharge (reverse roof pantograph) planned for ECitaro?
Thomas, you forgot to mention the 0-100 KPH time.(Just kidding of course). I never thought I would find a review of a bus so interesting!
=)
might not be able to reach 100, it will be limited to a max of 90 kph depending on the regulations in the country
Nice review! Please more bus reviews! 😀
Отличный немецкий автобус от "Мерседес"! Спасибо за классный обзор!
(City)buses are probably the most useful to make electric, for all the reasons you have mentioned!
I am a big supporter of electric mobility and I can’t wait to commute with an electric bus! Gone would be the roaring Diesel engine noise.
The two best things about electric buses are obviously no emissions in town but also no noise! Buses are so loud.
Headroom must be amazing! ;) Great to see buses on this channel as well! Good review!
=)
In the video at 00:05 saying that its not a car. Looks like description is saying something else.
The future of bus travel. Well done! I will never smell the horrible exhaust fumes anymore!
Awesome video
As batteries take over, disposal and recycling of old batteries should become more cost effective. I think that the manufacturer should be responsible for changing out the batteries and recycling or refurbishing old ones.
As always awesome video. Loved the music :)
In the city of Porto in Portugal, the Caetanobus a local company has already start to delivery there own electric bus. E-city gold. Totally developed um Portugal They are very good. Mercedes is been left behind.
This would have been quite the driving segment. I like the variety on this channel, keep it up
thanks !!
I was like.. "What the hell are you doing now Thomas..." yet i stayed and had to watch. Keep it up, Thomas!
=)
As always, a very well presented and produced video! I wonder what comes next, electric tractors? :)
Polish SOLARIS buses (also available as full electric) offer many USB sockets to passengers already. We have different generations of them in our city and if it has LED headlights, the USB’s are usually there too:)
To Mercedes logos on the front, bit over kill. Also what a good idea cause busses are the biggest polluters. Nice review Thomas
cars pollute way more per person
Mercedes body and drivetrain. Buses and coaches are different than cars in that the body could be built by one manufacturer and platform & drivetrain by another. Hence it could have two different logos... But yeah, in this case they should the dropped the little one.
You're absolutely correct. .i'll say that what should have been done in this case of the eCitaro is to size a smaller size star logo & increase the space seperation between the M-B coin badge & the star logo, like how it's done with the last generation facelift Citaro. That placement is about right in the proportion & spacing. They should not go overboard with change for the sake of change & instead stick with what's 'proven' & only 'change' if there's any 'real case' to do so.
High time Daimler exercise more consistency across their entire product portfolio & communicate this philosophy to their various design people in the various vehicle types so that everybody can speak the same design language ! This makes it also easier on the customer perception on what to expect each time they look at a Mercedes-Benz irregardless of type or model.
Jan Šinkovec Cheap farm products, animal shit, people shit, animal breathing and overall dead bodies of "civilization" produces waaaay more CO2, NOx and other nasty stuff.
Seems like there is a lot of vibrations.... suspension too stiff???
Germany always at the forefront on electric power technology. Mercedes Benz producing the necessary, technology to protect our environment. Gorgeous bus.
I would love to see in areas like Essen or Düs, that all large state vehicles must be switched to electric. The garbage collection, buses and such. Maybe even DHL and other delivery vans. Those trucks are so loud if you live anywhere near the big roads.
Nice review! Want to add though that the eCitaro is RWD only (having 2 motors - one on each side of the rear axle)
thanks! Oh yes, you are correct.
Thank you very much. I will keep this in mind when I am buying a bus! 😁
So many buses in Amsterdam have USB sockets. They are so useful. Especially if you have just landed and you are low are charge...
I saw the concept in person in Frankfurt. This still looks great, but I would be slightly concerned about the battery modules on the roof. Doesn't that make them really unstable?
Also, do they have any of the self-driving features of the concept?
Horse power -- also called pound×fathom^2×fortnight^-3 in non-SI base units
Coming soon to Hamburger Hochbahn's Innovationsline 109?
you guys should do review on Alstom Aptis as well. tx
And also Irizar EBus (e.g. used in Luxembourg).
Skärmen skriver ett fel i rörlighet, vad är lösningen med Citaro-bussen?
Finland already has 6 Linkker electric buses in service.
Excellent! Finally i might stop despising busses if they replace those loud dirt machines with such sweet e-busses.
Another excellent review as always, they could do with this bus in Chester UK as they have diesel buses running through the city centre.
cheers !
Quite interesting, thanks for sharing. What about inductional charging at the bus stop or station, that would be a good option I think.
This bus looks lit in my opinion
Estonia has one of these buses. This bus is on the test ride in Tallinn.
Отличное видео ⚡и репортаж! 👍
As if buses aren't torquey enough, people standing in this bus are bound to lose their balance from the bus accelerating🤔😂
We addressed this issue in the film, watch full length
Autogefühl yep, realised that after watching it fully. Still, it would be funny thou
it sure would =)
racing bus
Autogefühl haha
Is it available in Thomas blue?
I sure hope so =)
Great video Thomas!
appreciated !
It is so great that it is modular. So they can swap out the old batteries for better ones in the future when they can store more energy in the same space. Great!
So, it is a trolleybus without the need to go in a certain route where the electricity flows.
Anyone knows the base price?
I hope more electric buses is coming soon
Shenzhen has all electric buses...16 000 off them
There are loads, go look around, they're no where near the first. A few places already have a bunch of electric buses in service
IoSouLzZoI There is not a single electric bus in Sweden. That is why i said i hope more is coming.
These electric buses would transform an inner city environment currently using i.c.e. buses both in terms of noise and air pollution. Hopefully all metropolitan areas will introduce them very soon.
Indeed. It is going that direction. City buses might be first domain where electric vehicles will dominate over fossil fuel vehicles.
There is so much bus outside the wheel base it’s crazy
Really like ur bus vids
Keep them when you can
appreciated !
Nice futuristic look on the front.
The VDL Citea E-Worker changing system is smarter and faster (it's like the electric transfer of a tram og electric train on certain destinations) But what's next from Daimler? Wouldn't it be smarter to mount the battery pack like a normal PKW lower in the chassis? But all the advantages of an electric system is know news, it is just smarter. No matter the system I really hope for this future sooner.
This is nice ! Really nice !!! I hope they get them in my city! ... nice review btw
cheers !
I was waiting for Thomas Drive episode )))
It's a start, but they can and will do so much better with a roof full of PV's. Lose the fabric seats...bad idea! They will most likely go to high power recharging with a high power charger mounted on the roof that could allow ultra fast recharging modules perhaps in 440V?
They probably wouldn't do much better with PV.
Why did they place the batteries on the top?
so they can take the existing platform
And to keep low floor. Important for handicap and pram access.
"this bus will change thing", "revolutionary". Van Hool, MAN, VDL, Volvo and many more already have them...
Is the dash soft touch ;-)
Great informative review. Only on this channel view can get a real treat.
thanks for following !
Wonderful consumer journalism right here, but what was it’s lap time around The Ring? And when is the AMG version coming out?
=)
Indeed, we need a Nordschleife lap time for ECitaro ;-). The Mercedes SLS AMG ED did it in 7:56.
foersom (dot) org/ElecVehicle/NurburgringNordEV.html
Nice coverage, it's really fun see the progress in the auto industry. And it's so quiet and relaxing riding an electric bus. Volvo has a fullscale test of electric busses in regular traffic in Gothenburg. Come and visit Thomas! :-)
And nice that Autogefühl also covers the transport evolution.
cool :)
Talk about the ideal "Driving Lounge" by Thomas!!
=)
It rattles like cheaper buses but less squeaks, still have work to do in noise reduction.
Why dont they just put 2 tesla like batteris in the bottom they only cost about 10.000 each to produce it would lower the center of gravity
And it would allow for a lower overall height
Thanks for that very interesting and detailed review of an Electric Bus, very nice. :)
thanks for following !
how much this pretty bus ？
Great video, as always. 😊 Thomas you need to get a bus license.. You really wanted to drive it! 😂 I'm Israel 🇮🇱 we have electric busses for years now. They are working great. The charging solution is different here.
Cool!
In Cluj Napoca(Romania) we have like 10 Solaris electric buses
I like the bus. I find cycling near diesel powered buses uncomfortable for my ears because the bus engines are so loud. Quieter buses will be good for all of us.
What is the braking distance from 30mph during an emergency stop? Can the batteries be quickly swapped for fully charged ones?
Why would the braking distance be anything other than other busses?
Duitsland = autogefül..If they gonna make planes, Thomas gonna review it😉.
Beautiful bus ! You're floating on the chair ,like you're on a water bed:)5:53
please do some trucks for me actros atego turismo and more.thank u
12:40 i'am sure that the motor management could be reconfigured to Ludicrous acceleration ;DD
Would be fun..... for the driver. :D
Awesome! We already have 10 Solaris electric buses in the city, with 120km range ... but as I understand it, they are manufactured in low volume, so all manufacturers need to switch to electric ASAP.
Maybe in europe..in China there are already 400 000 electric busses in service
Nobody cares about that shithole
FUTURE SKOOLIE!!! LOVE IT!
Range isn't enough to last the whole day on most routes... You would have to charge mid-day.
Maybe Germans little late...China has already 400 000 full electric busses in service
dzonikg So? Yet in Germany air is still breathable.
But plenty of Nox
but the quality (fiability, confort, ...) of chinese busses is not good ;)
oh god... (Australia here)
not really, NoX is not that high here, and we are working on it :)
Would like to try this in our conditions :) 2 drive axels sounds very good
More buss reviews pls! (Bus driver in Sweden)
Why is there no bus belts also in city buses? Emergency stops from more than 10km/h may hurt standing / Elderly people
I agree, there should be. But thats something politics wont touch somehow because they are maybe afraid of damaging success of public transport
City buses with unbelted standing people are used in Sweden for short distances on motorway at 90km/h !
Buses in Luxembourg have 2 point seatbelts, but nobody ever use them.
will it not tip over if the most weight is in the roof?
guess the bus is heavy enough still, in this case here, it shouldnt much effect the center of gravity
I hope they will be put in action in The Netherlands. So they make less noise and 0 polution.
Qbuzz is using VDL electric busses in the north of the Netherlands already :). As far as I know they don't tip over, there are always people in the bus, so that lowers the centre of gravity quite a lot.
farm5.static.flickr.com/4515/26804604299_dbb1c859c0_b.jpg
The charging is done actually pretty cool, it looks bit like the old trolley busses.
www.verkeerinbeeld.nl/static/site/img/module/content/article/30371/header.jpg
Superb !
Hi Thomas,
I was wondering what are your thoughts on the rumours that manufacturing full electric vehicle and its components produces more CO2 gases than the gases exhausted by a gasoline engine running for 10 years?
it depends on the use case and on how many km you run.
The latest study I read was that for passenger cars, the EV starts to be better after 30.000 km
Nice bus but the range is not good... especially in ermerging areas or for use in peak hours. There won't be enough time to recharge
Archie Makuwa the range is good enough for a city bus. you won't be going fast, and since it's mostly stop and go, you'll be recuperating energy via the brakes
The design of the front reminds me of 300 SL.
You always make me laugh when you say thmoose instead of smooth, haha XD
Forget the S Class... This is what I want!
I would love to have quiet, clean busses in my city. No more hot air and exhaust blowing in your face while walking down the street.
What is the range on full battery
see review!
@@autogefuehl yeah i saw it... anyone who has ever driven a city line knows 150-250km range is a joke. You cant work whit that. It needs at least 350-400km range
we want Thomas test drive citaro 😇 😜
yes! =)
The regular Citaro needs a redesign at the front