What is the difference between Catholics and Protestants?
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- "What is the difference between Catholics and Protestants?"
Dr. Gregory Wills answers in Honest Answers | Episode 42
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Being a Catholic for 57 yrs on this earth, no pope, cardinal, bishop, priest nuns, laity has ever taught, proclaim that our salvation depends on obedience to the pope.
Sir, you are wrong.
I’ve always being taught that our salvation is by grace and that we have to cooperate with that grace in alligning our selves to the will of our father in heaven. The pope is not God but is the custodian of Gods Church.
Pls pick up the cathechism on the Catholic Church paragraph 882-“the pope is the perpetual and visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful”.
We Catholics do not regard our pope as God. Pls, in the name of our Lord Jesus, stop spreading the lies. Remain blessed and safe.
He never said that Catholics regard their pope as God...idk how you got that from this video
@@soiceyboy33 He clearly states this in 1:00 and so on...He clearly doesn't understand Catholicism. Protestants believe in instant salvation we believe in Reconciliation which is for temporal sin.
Better tell them all
Please come BACK HOME
@@soiceyboy33 he insinuates by using the word Salvation ! Listen closely and follow his winding words.
Yes, stop spreading the lies.
I've never used the word lies before, but hearing this is just too much , and I have too many brainwashed friends already, even childhood friends who were my Convent school classmates , they have all been brainwashed regarding Catholicism by their non Catholic Christian Pastors. God help us all !
We don't pray to Saints rather we ask for their prayers just like we ask others to pray for us. There's a clear difference.
There are over 1 billion Catholics in the world. Please explain how a dead saint has the capacity to heat 100 catholics from every nation at the same time?
No disrespect. Just curious as to what you believe.
@@arrozcongandules2329
You want me to EXPLAIN to you how God allows the spirits of the saints in Heaven to hear prayer requests from multiple people at once? Are you kidding? I suppose you also want me to EXPLAIN to you how God created the universe from nothing, right?
@@jzak5723
At ease John!
Are you the poster of the original comment, John? I believe not. So I didn't ask you to EXPLAIN anything.
But if you must insist on intruding in my silent exchange with the original poster, I expect that someone who practices a religious act at least knows why they practice it and how the practice came about and reference it with valid sources. Especially when some say it is a must do.
@@arrozcongandules2329
Excuse me, but I'm assuming that you've been around here long enough to know that anybody can make a post to anyone else's comment, which is why I responded to your post. You must be pretty thin skinned to accuse me of "intruding" in your own little conversation. If you want a private conversation then maybe you should get their phone number or email, lol.
@@jzak5723
All I can do is laugh bro...
I was being sarcastic when saying you intruded. Notice that I said "silent exchange". I was just trying to be humorous, John.
When I began, I wrote "at ease." I was hoping this would lead you into understanding the humor behind my reply to you. I guess I was wrong.
I thought atheists vs believers were the best comment wars, but Catholics vs protestants are much more vicious lol
Way more vicious. Wars we’re fought over this for hundreds of years.
@@mikefanofmovies look Bro if you're just going to copy a paste it and can't even write it yourself what makes you think I'm going to read it ?
@@hoosier-daddy6807 Why would you want to read my own words? Human power is of no use at all. Isn't the Word of the Lord, spoken to this generation, a cause for celebration? Is not His Word the only Words to live by?
Hahaha i was thinking the same thing
Dont really care about either one but just always found myself interested in the divide itself
@@mikefanofmovies I’d consider not only adding the reference of text (as you have) but what is valuable/helpful to an outsider is if you mention why you chose to share the SPECIFIC text. There’s a “What are you getting at” question that comes up.
Please keep in mind while you want to spread the news, outsiders don’t share your perspective.
This is coming from a non-believer, hoping to practice good conversation between people of different religious views
I've been raised Catholic (grade school and high school) and am still a practicing Catholic. I feel this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, and I can't agree with his interpretation of the Catholic Church
Your feeling is spot on. Most anti Catholics have ever bothered to seek what the Church teaches.They hold to what their predecessors taught them.
yeah as i grow christian,what i learn from it is that it promotes love and forgiveness for everyone they are not claiming salvation only for christians but for everyone, yes there were people who worship saints but lets acccept the fact that not all people are smart enough to understand things rather not all of us roman catholic worship saints but only those bunch of toxics person who are desperate enough to claim the miracles that they are wanted to hahaha they were just satan's discples use to fuck christianity knowing that their religion is just a big fraud making money from their said church members bunch of bitter assholes.
Remember what Bishop Fulton J. Sheen said: “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”
@@friarrodneyburnap4336 Thank you for response FRB. After reading your reply I would have to ask;
1. When do you think the Roman Catholic Church was established?
2. In Acts 8, Saul is named in persecuting the Church. Which Church is that exactly?
3. Considering the Bible, which person or institution had the responsibility of determining which writings belonged in the Bible?
@@friarrodneyburnap4336 FRB, I don't have time this morning to give you a full reply, so I just took out all of the incorrect or false parts of your post. Nor did I have time to check the Catholic Encyclopedia, so I left that part in your post. Thanks again and have a happy Thanksgiving.
The Church of God was call the Way or of this Way in the book of Acts ...right after the infilling of the Holy Ghost Pentecost...and the new converts sold their possessions and lived in community.... The manuscripts that the Bible was formed from where written by the Apostles and other holy men. . . The Catholic Church did not write these manuscript . Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church that states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error "when, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church. Infallibility is, according to the New Catholic Encyclopedia, "more than a simple, de facto absence of error. It is a positive perfection, ruling out the possibility of error". The thing is Peter was not a perfect man as being stated that the Pope is...Peter lied three times to knowing Jesus, just before the the rooster crowed. And this is only one example of Peter's shortcoming and sins . . . .but just like the Bible teaches for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God in Christ Jesus...even Marry the Mother of Jesus needed a Savior . . .
Prayer to the saints is actually asking for intercessory prayer. The historic Christian belief is that those who have passed on are alive in Christ,more alive spiritually than we are here on Earth. Revelation makes.referemce to the saints in Heaven offering up the prayers of the faithful before the throne of Christ. It is no more different than asking my neighbour to pray for me.
The intercession of the saints is one of the most widespread misunderstanding Protestants have about historic Christianity as manifested in the Catholic and Orthodox Churches.
Don't be deceived Acts 2:38 is the keys to the kingdom. There is no other way to salvation, no matter how righteous you are.
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@@revitalizedbornagain4418 necromancy is calling up the spirits of the dead. It's a dark thing. Asking for intercession of the saints is different. Hebrews tells us that we are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses. Who would that be? It's the people who have already gone before us. Revelation mentions the prayers of the saints being given up before the throne of God.
Looking at Holy Scriptures as our INFINITE Wisdom sorce and example and Blueprint to go by.
Will then lead us into the right path.
Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet and the Light.---- unto my path
Epistle to Hebrews 7: 24 ...
Also we do not pray to saints we show respect and show veneration to the saints. You are right about good works and salvation.
Bowing and kneeling to them is worship. That is why your church pews have padded kneel pads for prayers while listening to homilies of your sodomite priests
@R Treadwell yes sex scandals and covered up by money by ur church
@R Treadwell church is who you are
not a place you go to
you are deceived to the core
i quoted you Scriptures
yet still man- made doctrine
it is for you
HOPE U SWIM WELL
YOU ARE GOING TO NEED IT
@R Treadwell DO NOT YOU KNOW
GOD DOES NOT DWELL IN TEMPLES MADE BY HUMAN HANDS (acts 7 48)
are u born again?
@R Treadwell yes u have read but u have never understood
wake up from your deceit
i asked u questions
u have no replies
repent from your sins
get right w/ the living God
JESUS SAID "MARVEL NOT I SAY TO U
U MUST BE BORN AGAIN"
(john3 6-7)
JESUS ALSO SAID
"DENY URSELF
TAKE UP UR CROSS
AND FOLLOW ME
IF U ARE TO BE
A DISCIPLE"
(mark8 34)
u f-o-l-l-o-w
m-e-n
not God
Catholics believe submission to God first. The Church is there to guide you, and it's not submission to the Pope, It's submission to Church Doctrine, which can be interpreted by not just the Pope, but to the Magisterium and Church Tradition, guided by Jesus and only Jesus.
Indeed. God (the Trinity), The Church and then the Scriptures. NOT the Bible, God and Church.
@Asaph Vapor Jesus words represent God. It's a new covenant.
If the bible is the final authority, who decides if two Protestants disagree. For example, John MacArthur and the late RC Sproule debated infant baptism. Protestants admit, when asked about the differences among themselves, that other Protestants twist scripture. They admit that, while they teach scripture (verse by verse), they don't have the authority to teach. They are merely readers of scripture. Their commentaries do not have any value. Can the bible tell a pastor whether he or she is right or wrong? How? Can the bible scream "THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT."
The word of God decides. No man made hierarchy.
The reason you don't know what your talking about, is because you are probably catholic, and the last thing you will find in a catholic church, is a bible. The Catholics kept the people away from the bible, so they could never see truth. As for what you said; "can a bible tell a pastor whether he or she is right". Yes its called them holy spirit, another thing a catholic knows nothing about. The holy spirit is a teacher of discernment of truth. Catholicism started out as an authentic church, but they started to go wrong when in a race to increase their numbers they started to let pagans worshippers in the church, and in order to keep them members, started doing baby baptism. They thought they could change the pagans to their doctrine, but they started to take their pagans, and you can see these pagans, in the Catholic church today. The woman and child is a pagan. You can see the sun god pagans, by which they worship on Sun-day. The serpent is also seen. Now in the Vatican. Man became god when they established the papacy, POPE, has the power to forgive sins. I won't even mention, that they killed 50 million people during the inquisitions. That is more than hitler, stalin, mao, and Mussolini, combined. Sorry I guess I did mention it. I hope you are not catholic, but if you are, then read revelation chapter 17 and tell me who you think t he harlot on the beast is. Woman-Church, beast-kingdom. Horns-mountains, hint: Rome has 7 hills. GET OUT
@@veritasaequitas4100 That is not very charitable to tell someone to "Get Out". You equate the bible with the Holy Spirit - to tell you when you are right or wrong. Last time I check, they are not the same. Maybe, if we pray and ask the guidance of the Holy Spirit on how to interpret the bible, we will end up becoming Catholic. Maybe, if we look at the Catholic teachings in an unbiased way and with open mind, we will find ourselves not hating Her and not call Her the "whore of Babylon". After all, there are many who found themselves returning to the Church of their forefathers, like GK Chesterton, Scott Hahn, Ulf Ekman, and Mark Galli. I'm sure, your great great great grandfather was a Catholic.
You know not what you speak. For one, Catholics do not worship the pope nor revere him for eternal salvation. He is the leader of the Catholic Church just as a president is of a corporation or country. Please get your facts straight. May God bless us all!
Similar to a pastor of a church. Catholicism is a denomination.
The catholic church actually teaches that the good work comes AFTER justification, and not BEFORE. that means the good work is not a prerequisite to be justified. I think this whole thing is messed up and got lost in translation.
My thoughts, for what they are worth: I think that if someone truly wants to know what the Catholic Church teaches, they should speak to someone active in the Catholic Church. I think that if you want to know what Protestants teach... you should go speak to someone at a Protestant Church. If you want to know what ANY Religion teaches... go to people who ACTIVELY PRACTICE THAT FAITH! Don't go to those who maybe did a little reading on the Religion, or to someone who left a Church, and now all they can talk about is how corrupt it is. Please don't go to a person, preacher, influencer etc. to hear *their* version of another Faith's belief system. We all can do the research for ourselves -- the right way, and then make our own educated decision on which path to go. There is no reason to do comparisons. It just causes hurt feelings, and animosity, which perpetuates disrespect for others beliefs. RESPECT OTHERS, no matter what they believe. Discuss, but do not debate or insult others. God knows the hearts of people, we do not. He will be the one who draws sincere people to him, and he allows us to decide whether we want to serve him or not.
Is my opinion invalid because I was raised protestant my whole life but left because of the ignorance the church teaches? Me, someone who finally made his own choice and decided to stop torturing myself with creationism before saying "this is just a test of faith?" Imo the church manipulates people who want to feel morally superior (who doesnt want that feeling) and enforces talking within your own head (asking god for forgiveness with no words is valid in my family) as righting a wrong? Religion is stupid, but the values it teaches CAN be good, but misinterpreted (as the word often is) the ideas breed insane people.
Love this, very well put ❤️
@@blueorchid3240 Thank you
@@roycewidrick3247 Your opinion IS valid, because of your personal experience with YOUR church, and your personal belief system. That does not mean that everyone that is Protestant will experience the disappointment that you have, therefore your opinion of Protestantism is just that... YOUR opinion. My point is, that if you are seeking to worship God, and interested in learning about different churches and beliefs, it's best to get your information from a source other than someone who left that particular faith. You are still entitled to speak about your experience to others.
well said,appreciate your comment,🙏
This video has many errors that are at best misleading:
1) Pope - yes we submit that the Pope is the leader of the church, but he is just a man and is only speaking infallibly when teaching on morals and doctrine in union with the bishops, which has only taken place twice in history. The church is principally led by its bishops over their respective dioceses. The leadership of the Pope is what creates the unity that Christ commanded - the alternative is the Protestant failure of thousands of church splits, all bickering over theology
2) works - Catholics believe our faith saves us, but a living faith expressed by following Christ’s commandments. Without faith in Christ, there is no amount of good works that can save us. But as James says, faith without works is dead. True faith isn’t just belief, but is a passionate force expressed through good works, and avoiding mortal sin. For even the demons believe, and shudder. The words “faith alone” are never in the Bible, that is an invention by Luther to push his personal theology.
3) purgatory - Catholics believe none of us die in a perfect state of grace, and after death there is an undefined period where our imperfections must be cleansed before we can be in the presence of God. The time frame is not defined, it could be an instant. And all souls in purgatory will go to heaven, it is not a permanent place but a temporal purification. It is scriptural from the deuterocanonical books, which Protestants removed from their bibles in the reformation, because Luther didn’t like the doctrine.
4) prayer - prayer and worship are entirely different things. Catholics only worship God, period. We only ask Saints for intercessory prayer. Protestants also ask their family and friends for intercessory prayer - is that wrong? Of course not. Neither is asking Saints (including Mary) to pray for us. We also ask God directly to answer our prayers, having more people pray for you is a good thing, I’m not sure why this is even an issue.
5) the Church was established by Christ when he hand picked his apostles and sent the Holy Spirit to them at Pentecost. The Church gave us the Bible, not the other way around. Long before the Bible there was a thriving church community, taught by oral tradition. Church tradition continues to this day. The Church is made of its billions of Saints, with Christ as its head. The sacraments, instituted by Christ, are gifts of reconciliation and love for God’s people.
Can a non Catholic Christian be saved? Yes, the Catechism of the Catholic Church is clear on that. But you are missing the fullness of Christ’s Church by being outside of the Catholic Church. I pray that you study the Church, especially the early church fathers and their practices, you will see that they were thoroughly Catholic.
The words “faith alone” may not be in the Bible in itself but the concept is. Romans chapter 4, Ephesians 2:8-9, John chapter 3, acts 16:31. And there’s many more. If good works and faith were required, why would John 3:16 just say believe? Why wouldn’t it say believe and work? Works are important to the Christian faith but it’s part of discipleship and excluded from soteriology. And Protestants find errors with purgatory because when Christ died at the cross, we believe his blood made it possible to cleanse everyone who believes on him perfectly therefore it’s not necessary for someone to spend time in a place called purgatory. You are either under Gods grace or under Gods wrath. There’s nothing in between.
And James chapter 2 is a common verse used even among Protestants and reformed Christians to prove works save or are evidence of being saved. The problem with that interpretation is that James was written to people who were already believers and it’s not a epistle concerning soteriology. James never says that if a Christian has dead faith, they aren’t saved, but rather they aren’t being profitable to God and other believers and unbelievers as well. My issue with Catholicism is that you can’t truly know if you are going to Heaven or not. While in Protestantism that teaches sola fide you can be assured of your salvation and the Bible is clear that it’s possible to know where we are headed before we die.
@@coltonfrechette377 the only time the words “by faith alone” are used in the Bible they are preceded by the word “not.” James 2:24
“But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”
Titus 3:4-7
As a Protestant, I would never be so naive as to say that Catholics cannot find salvation. Anyone who accepts Jesus as their Lord and Savior and asks for the forgiveness of their sins is saved.
For any fans of Reliant K, "The beauty of grace is that it makes life not fair."
I'm a little disturbed by some of the comments from my Catholic brothers and sisters that grace only comes through the Catholic Church. Really?
Really. Christ the God-Man is the primal source and inexhaustible fountainhead of all grace. All grace comes to us through Christ. But Christ communicates His grace to the members of His mystical Body, the Church, which is Christ coming to full stature. Jesus and the Church form a single mystical Body: the whole Christ. Jesus continues to act in and through His Church and thus communicates His saving grace thru the Church to the world.
@@1962mrpaul
It sounds like you need Jesus.
Reach out, the Rock of Ages will embrace you.
@@detroitwhat4017 dear friend, I am already in Christ and He is in me. In the Catholic Church I have access to all the riches and graces that Christ won for us. If you want the real Jesus, the Bread of life which came down from heaven, the Good Shepherd, come to His true Church which He established and maintains as the pillar and ground of the Truth.
@@1962mrpaul
In a political institution?
Sadly, you are very confused.
In Christ alone I have salvation, not in the institutions of man.
The Lord is envious and does tolerate the worship of anyone or anything but him.
@@detroitwhat4017 the definition of “institution” is: “an organization, establishment, foundation, society, or the like, devoted to the promotion of a particular cause or program, especially one of a public, educational, or charitable character.” Read the Gospels and you will see that Jesus spends a lot of time establishing an “institution” - an organized society - called the Church with a hierarchical structure and a definite mission: promoting the Good News that humanity has a new Lord. Certainly the “institution” is flawed and sinful because it is made of flawed and sinful human beings like you and me, but nevertheless has a perfect and sinless Head - Jesus Christ - who acts in and through His Body.
The vague do-it-yourself “meet my pal Jesus” “Christianity” so popular today among many modern Americans is a far cry from what the Scriptures actually portray.
Well, all I can say is that this mr. professor should have consulted a Catholic priest or called “Catholic Answers” to get correct information before making a fool out of himself with this video. In totality you have one Holy Catholic Church instituted by Christ with 1.2 billion followers versus 30K variation of others with countless false teachers preying on people. No wonder why so many educated evangelicals at some point leave their denominations and join the Catholic Church.
No one submits to the Pope but the pope is a representative and in service of the people. You have already shown you do not understand Catholicism.
The pope is a servant to satan
@David Ortiz you carry on m8 the pope is not the Lords servant and you need to pick up the bible and read it , you will loose all if you just follow blindly and the Lord will say to you i never knew you
@@kennethperry5500 I would prepare to hear those very words if I were you.
@David Ortiz Jesus is God in the flesh and my saviour ,the pope is satans servant
@David Ortiz i am Christs the Holy Spirit dwells within me i am born again ,when Jesus appears i will be like him so you carry on believeing fairy stories but the pope is nobody just a man like me and he has no power unless he has accepted Christ and going by his behaviour and the things he says i would say he is not of Christ
Faith alone as a stand alone belief comes out of the Protestant movement and is not historical Christianity. We need faith AND works. Scripture says that salvation is a process, not just a destination. St Paul tells us that it is a race that needs to be run and we work out our salvation with fear and trembling.
That's true faith and works work together. Peter has the keys to the kingdom which he gave to everybody in the upper room in Acts 2:38.no matter what you believe you can't be in the church without this work.
Ephesians 2:8-16 (KJV) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Romans 8:1, 6-7 (KJV) There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
@@revitalizedbornagain4418 Faith in Christ means faith in everything Christ taught, including that good works are necessary for salvation (Matthew 25:31-46).
Protestants are fond of quoting Ephesians 2:8-9. Protestants should read the very next verse, verse 10.
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh
Amazing, are you attacking the group called Protestants ???
Anyhow
Ephesians 2:10 (KJV) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should (walk in them.)
Walking in Biblical Holieness
Walking in Biblical Righteousness
Our Lives Holy Consecrated at home on the internet as well as before all humanity to Walk in the Light of Gods love is not to be a sadducee or Pharisee in other words Hippocrates at Heart...
Gods INFINITE Wisdom in His Holy Scriptures drives us all who are Blood Bought Born Again to Walk in Zealous Truth as Holy Ambassadors for all the unredeemed to read our Lives to be Christ Likeness in all things.
Have a Blessed day my friend.
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Only what is done for Christ will last for this life we live is fading fast.........
I agree with him, but how come, there is one Roman Catholic church doctrine and 38000 protestant denominations?
mr sneaky2010 Umm bc that’s not true, in Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant branches there are differing sects, you’re clearly ignoring the varied sects of Catholicism, it Muslims like to do the same thing.
Because the devil goes after the real or true church to make each other fight he doesn’t care if your are already going to the wrong way all Protestant believe in Jesus Christ it’s just they never get along cuz the devil is always working behind to make them fight he knows if they come up together they will destroy his work , Jesus Christ is the only way no other way
Catholicism is a man made denomination so 38,001 i suppose.
I'm not Catholic or Protestant, and even I know this is a misrepresentation of Catholicism. I don't blame him for his views, Protestants have been taught to view the Catholic religion in a negative light. But I think it's best to learn about the Catholic faith from a Catholic. I would say it's also best to learn about the protestant faith from a Protestant, but who would you ask, when there are 40,000 different Protestant denominations?
Lidia Monroe Stop speaking for hundreds of millions, many Protestants learn about Catholic beliefs from catholic sources like myself.
Protestants don't have a religion, for Jesus Christ Almighty is their religion. Now if a Protestant goes to church it's just to hear the Word of God and to congregate. After all Jesus says I am the way the Truth and the Light, that is the Religion who is Jesus Christ himself. Jesus is the religion, Catholic, Baptist and every other name is man made religion. The true religion is Jesus and his perfect example, everything else is secondary and irrelevant
Franz Antu Precisely why I’m not Calvinist, Lutheran, Baptist etc.
There are not 40,000 Protestant denominations. That number comes from a study that included every little cult that tries to claim Jesus. Groups who have no authentic claim to being Christian are included, swelling the number to 40,000 and more.
@@dawn7612 Jesus gave the keys to Saint Peter. Old Testament is obsolete , jesus said i am the fulfillment,,,no more eye for an eye.
So under who’s Authority did you remove books out of the Bible 🤔
lol catholic added books that are not in Jewish "old testament", what do you caLL THAT?
simblr katie spoken like a true Protestant answer with a question
@@CHRISTISKING34 Jesus did too, don't you remember?
@@CHRISTISKING34 right how would you know catholics dont read their bible
simblr katie lmao yes we do read the Bible I read it every day for at least an hour and I also read our Catechism I’m not a Luke warm catholic
that’s all our mass is straight Bible but I will say a lot do not read the Bible
So that’s what Jesus did that’s your answer removal of scripture
And this video is wrong because if you read Martin Luther’s these he states belief of purgatory and forgiveness of sin by priest
We don’t pray to saints nor Mary we ask them to pray for us period
Protestant salvation is a trick question you cannot get past The Eucharist anyone who reads the Bible can see that
As a Roman Catholic I have to say my loyalty sits with the word of god and Christ almighty. Rome has nothing to do with my spiritual life.
Then do u believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven? To forgiveness of sins? That Mary is not equal to Jesus? That its. Even a sin to pray to her?
@@marieflores2478 Mary points is to Jesus. Don’t let Protestants tell you what Catholics believe. And there’s many miracles that prove this. And Jesus appeared to the apostles after he died to give the apostles the authority to forgive sins. We don’t need to dumb down Christianity
You'd think a man in a suit and tie who participates in a professionally produced video would show up with more than simple straw man arguments to make his point.
Take 4 for instance: We don't "pray" to saints per say, we ask them to pray for us since we are all part of a communion of saints and share kinship in Christ with those who have attained eternal glory in Heaven. We read in revelation of the prayers of saints being delivered to God's alter and saints in heaven wanting their martyrdom's avenged
5. He makes a common error here in treating the church as somehow separate from Christ, despite the fact that scripture calls the church (not churches) both Christ's body, and his bride on earth. Its by God's grace that we are saved, its by Christ's death on the cross that we are redeemed. We can't earn grace through good works or any such merits on our part, we can however cooperate with the grace God gives us, and when we do we tend to become more Christ like in desiring to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, minister to prisoners, give alms, spread the gospel, and various other Christian things.
Going back to 1. How anyone can see Christ call the apostles to him, give them authority to cast out demons, forgive sins, preach the gospel to all the nations, baptize, and bind and loose ON EARTH AND IN HEAVEN even going so far as to say that whoever sees the ones he sent sees him, and whoever hears the ones he sent in his name hears him, and whoever rejects the ones he sent rejects him, and not see a basis for a ministerial priesthood is intentionally ignoring not only the plane meaning of the text, but also known Christian history.
Bishops, elders, and deacons (the Greek word for Elder is where we get the word priest) are mentioned several times in the new testament, how do protestants not see this and yet insist on things that aren't there such as Jesus giving telling people to get saved using a collection of New Testament books that wasn't canonized until centuries after his Crucifixion by various councils and synods of Catholic bishops.
I could go on, but ill end it with two points I'd like to make:
1. How can one man speak so authoritatively about what Protestants believe when no such authority exists and the so called Protestant "reformation" has hopelessly fractured the Christian west, giving rise to so many contradictory creeds, sects, and denominations that I'd hate to see what Protestants call chaos if this is what they call reformed?
2. If a corrupt tree brings fourth corrupt fruit as Jesus said, how can Protestantism claim to be free of theological corruption since it comes from Catholicism and many of its doctrines have been affirmed by Catholic councils of Bishops? Take the nature of Christ affirmed at the Council of Chalcedon as one example, or the cannon of the new testament that was a addressed at the councils/synods of Hippo and Carthage.
Jay T thank youuu. It’s very well said. He made the comparison but was wrong in many points.
Also another point for 5, the Catholic Church is One an Universal: every single day of every year, the same readings in the mass are read in the whole wide world.
Also, a point that includes #1 and 5, our church is One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic. Christ founded the church and entrusted His authority to his apostles, the first bishops and St. Peter the first pope.
@@marllymbungu1721 we do the same reading because we dont add new words at the bible simple as that.
@Asaph Vapor???
Unfortunately a cursory and shallow analysis of Catholicism
Sorry , but you are inadequately schooled regarding the Teaching Authority of The Roman Catholic Church. Teaching Authority and the Pope's authority are different things.
Please study before you proclaim inaccuracies regarding the Roman Catholic Church.
Most of these are correct. However, in Catholicism, we are not praying TO the Saints. We ask for their intercession, including Mary. We believe that when Mary died, she was taken body and soul into heaven where she became queen. Catholics pray for Mary’s intercession because she is Christ’s mother and she is willing to take our prayers to Christ. Mary has also appeared to people throughout the centuries, including appearances at Guadeloupe, Lourdes, La Sallette, Fatima, and more places. Again, we ask for intercession and do not worship the Saints. If we did, I would agree with the statement that it would be considered idolatry since only God can and should be worshipped. We ask the Saints to bring our petitions before God. We don’t see them as gods.
One other difference. Catholics believe that the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ is found in the Eucharist. Many Protestant denominations do not believe this and see the Eucharist as a symbol of Christ. This is why Catholics venerate Christ during Eucharistic adoration, where the host is venerated in a large container called a monstrance. Yet, this is still another important difference to note.
I grew up Catholic, went to catecism made my first communion, first confession, and confirmation. Never during all of this time, did I read a bible. Can't find a bible in a Catholic church, even though i didn't read one, I knew it wasn't right. I found JESUS away from church. I had an encounter with him and he washed me if my sins. I started reading the word of God. John: 1-2 says that Jesus is the Advocate and intercessor. It tells me, that I go through Jesus to get to the father. He is the way. No one goes to them father. Except through me. Doesn't say go to Mary first and she will tell him. That would mean that Jesus is inadequate. When Jesus died on the cross, the veil was ripped in half. Jesus is the veil. God saId that he is the father. I will not call a priest father. I don't need a priest to confess my sins, I can go straight to the ones that can forgive sins. Catholicism took the Roman Sun god as part of their religion. You can see it everywhere in their churches and cathedral's, and to be worshipped on SUNday. And I won't even go into the Catholic inquisition. I just don't get it. As for purgatory. I looked at the passage they talk about. Luke 16.19. The rich man, is in hell. Hade us hell, not purgatory
That is the definition to praying to marry though...by asking for her intersession you are replacing god,with her...why would Jesus need a saint or marry to intercede on his behalf?
@@dakotastein9499 for the same reason that we pray in a community or ask other people to pray for us. To quote the letter to Timothy, “First of all, then, I ask that supplications, prayers, petitions and thanksgivings be offered for everyone, for kings and for all in authority, that we may lead a quiet and tranquil life in all devotion and dignity. This is good and pleasing to God our savior, who wills everyone to be saved and to come to knowledge of the truth. For there is one God. There is also one mediator between God and the human race, Christ Jesus, himself human, who gave himself as ransom for all.” (Timothy 2:1-6). When we ask for prayers from another person, we are not worshipping them nor praising them (or at least I hope not). We are asking for help. Since we believe in the resurrection of man, the Saints are the people closest to God since they are in His kingdom and are already close to Him. To quote the letter to James, “The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much” (5:16). The book of Revelation also lays this out. It states, ““And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer; and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne; and the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God.” (Revelation 8:3-4). Mary is the closest Saint to God since she conceived Christ. She is His mother, is full of grace (Luke 1:28), is blessed among women (Luke 1:42), and our mother (John 19:26-27). If Mary is our mother, I couldn’t think of anyone else I would rather have praying for me!
@@thomascanuel9937 as that passage said...there is ONE mediator and that is jesus...there is a difference in praying FOR somone(or asking somone to pray for another) and praying THROUGH or in the name of somone...mary,the Saints nor even the angels have the power it intercede between man and god in prayer. Only Jesus has that authority...to pray in the name or through anyone else is to supplant or substitute Jesus or the relationship with the Holy spirit for another.
This is blasphemy.
This is the problem with the Catholic church,they set themselves above scripture in athortlity..adding or altering doctrine that favors tradition over truth....and it does not stop at prayer eathier..
The worship of didols(breaking the 2 commandment) as well as Referring to a priest as "father" (also against scripture)
@@dakotastein9499 by intercede, I do not mean to pray to the Saint. This is the most basic version of my last comment: On earth, we ask other people to pray for us because we need more than just our prayer. Jesus hears all of our prayers, but we ask for them from others so we may continue to petition to God. It cannot hurt, after all. Since the Saints are so close to God and since they share in God’s heavenly providence, we ask them the same thing. We ask them to pray for us. Not for them to bestow a blessing upon us, but for them to pray to God to bestow that blessing.
I apologize if my last comment was a little confusing. I hope that clears it up. The Saints don’t mediate. They offer up even more prayers for us. Take the Hail Mary for example: “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.” The first few sentences are titles for Mary and given to us from the Bible (primarily Luke’s Gospel). The last sentence addresses Mary again and asks for her to pray to us. I don’t see any worshipping of Mary here. Only titles and asking her to pray for us or a specific intention. The same is true with all the other Saints.
Again, I apologize if my last post was not clear. I am also still trying to learn more and more about my Catholic faith every day, because none of us can claim to have all the answers. Why? Because God is a mystery that we enter into through the Paschal Mystery. Please feel free to comment more about these statements. I certainly appreciate your correction on your last comment. God bless you! 😊🙏
I am a new Christian and Methodist (protestant denomination), but interested in Roman Catholicism, I definitely think works play a part in salvation and not just faith alone. We are all sinners but should make an effort to repent of these and become better people... and help others.
Emma J. What you are advocating is a works based redemption.
Eph 2:1-10 clearly tells you that you are saved by grace , not works . It is through faith in what Jesus has DONE for you. There is nothing that you can do to add to what Jesus has DONE for you.
Romans 6 and 7 will tell you that you do not have sin to deal with when you are in Christ. Romans 8 tells you there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ and walk after the Spirit not the flesh.
I definitely think works play a part in salvation and not just faith alone. We are all sinners but should make an effort to repent of these and become better people... and help others.
So half of this statement is true
I definitely think works play a part in salvation and not just faith alone.
Eph 2: shatters the theory that works has anything to do with salvation.
We are all sinners but should make an effort to repent of these and become better people... and help others.
James echoes this as well ,works do play an integral part in our walk with Jesus but works have nothing to do with our redemption.
No one who receives the Gift of salvation will just sit and live in the world , without any appreciation for the gift . We work for God not for salvation, but because of salvation. Eph 2:10 God has things for us to do .
I quote Fr Chris Alar - " ACTS OF LOVE "
PONDER the difference, 'Good works '
" It's not 'good works' , it's 'ACTS OF LOVE ' . "
That's why Protestantism is shallow.
There is no point in wasting my time arguing with shallow.
@@lingsuyen9509 I am constantly amazed at how Catholics think that protestants just sit around doing nothing . Is this what the catholic church teaches? If it is then the catholic church is wrong. Salvation is a gift and we do not work for that gift , we work because of that gift. We do the things God wants us to do to bring Him glory not ourselves. Yes there are SOME protestants that are useless just as there are SOME Catholics who are useless , but do we stereotype all because of some? Denominational churches are not what the Lord desires but the denominational believers do works that leads others to Christ and that is so much more important than what church you decide is right.
@@bobloblawb2593 You are not interested in what I am amazed at , so , likewise.
I do not know where you get your notions from, e.g.
" Catholics think that Protestants sit around and think /do nothing whole day ."|
Please do not create more DIVISIVENESS by your attitude.
@@lingsuyen9509 Quote" I quote Fr Chris Alar - " ACTS OF LOVE "
PONDER the difference, 'Good works '
" It's not 'good works' , it's 'ACTS OF LOVE ' . "
That's why Protestantism is shallow.
There is no point in wasting my time arguing with shallow. "
So you claim Protestantism is shallow ? Which makes me wonder where you get your teaching from?
Many of the representations in this video are incorrect. I have emailed the channel asking for corrections, but until that time, let me just point out a few clear errors made.
1) Dr. Wills says the Catholic Church teaches that “it is absolutely necessary to be in subjection to the Bishop of Rome in order to be saved.” This is not true. The Church has said salvation may be had outside the Church. Specifically, the Church said in 1949 that in order for someone to be saved, “it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member.” Dr. Wills again makes this error in point 5 of the video.
2) Dr. Wills says “in Protestantism our authority is the Scriptures.” This implies Catholics do not view the Scriptures as authoritative, which is not true.
3) Dr. Wills says the Church teaches believers “will spend thousands, or hundreds of thousands, or possibly even millions of years in a purgatorial suffering.” This is materially misleading. The Church says nothing about anyone’s length of time in purgatory. Catholic theologians, such as Joseph Ratzinger (future Pope Benedict XVI), have said purgatory may be experienced “existentially” rather than “temporally” and may last not even a moment.
4) Dr. Wills says “Roman Catholics have taught…prayer may be offered to the saints.” This is dramatically oversimplified. Dr. Wills presents prayer to saints as the same as prayer to Jesus, when this is not Church teaching. Rather, the Church teaches that people may ask the saints in heaven to pray for us, just as we ask our friends and family to pray for us. The video's equivocation of prayer “to” saints and prayer to Jesus is misleading.
I hope the channel will issue corrections.
I doubt they will change anything … when I pointed out the errors I have had some of my posts deleted. …. They / he confuses "prayer" and "Worship" the latter being for God alone. "Worship is reserved for the Godhead alone " Catholic Catechism. …. The Eucharist is not contrary to the bible as he claims (John 6 + 14 other bible verses that support the Eucharist ..
Dude, I just read your 4th correction to the video and I never thought of it that way. We are simply asking saints to pray for us like how we ask our friends and family to pray for us.
God bless you, man!
SOCIAL MEDIA IS THE RIVER OF FILTH LOOK AT ALL OF YOU AND ALL YOUR HATE WITH YOUR SELF RIGHTIOUSNESS AND DISREGUARD FOR REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE TRUE MESSAGE OF THE I AM
And there are two ppl here in the comment section fighting whether which belief is correct. *AND YALL CALL YOURSELVES CHRISTIANS WITH THAT ATTITUDE?*
everyone wanna be that new prophet yo
@David Ortiz but not the pillar of literacy, apparently
As a catholic I think Dr. Wills sees Catholicism through a distorted lens. We don't pray to the saints or to Mary. We ask them to intercede with God on our behalf. We don't follow the Pope blindly. His authority comes from Christ as the successor of St. Peter and the apostles. The Pope must also follow the Catholic faith and he is not making up doctrines on his own. As for purgatory, personally I have my own doubts about it but I don't think that any time limits are prescribed by the Church. If I'm not mistaken as catholics the wellspring of our faith is the Word of God and his words as mediated through the authors of Holy Scripture and the tradition that is passed on to us from the apostles and interpreted by the Pope and the Bishops. We follow the words and direction of Christ and the Holy Trinity. We are not blindly following the words and commands of men.
Finally, as for salvation, all of us are saved by God through the sacrifice and resurrection of Christ. Catholics believe this, at least this catholic does. that our salvation begins in baptism and that through the grace of God, which is contained in the sacraments and following Christ in our lives, we are saved. I think that just saying you have faith in Christ is sufficient.
Sorry I mean to say that just saying I have faith in Christ is insufficient without living a life in Christ. Once saved always saved is a misconception in my view. I'm not here to bash the Protestant faith though. All of us who believe in Christ and his saving grace are brothers and I pray that we will meet again in heaven and continue our debate in the love and guidance of God.
@oneconcerned, hello. Thanks for your reply. I didn't think anyone would bother. I read your response carefully. I will say this. As for as a dictionary definition of prayer, I agree that catholics ask the saints and Mother Mary to intercede on their behalf. So that is one way of praying. But that is not the reverential way that I pray to God. My prayer and I believe most Catholics view their prayers to God as a form of worship. As Jesus is quoted in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke, "Our father who are in heaven hallowed be thy name". That is different form of prayer than ask Mother Mary to intercede on our behalf.
I don't recall discussing infant baptism in my response but I will say this. I believe based on my reading that the early Church, which was one orthodox church, east and west, decided to baptize infants because it believed their souls may be in danger of not being saved if they died before they accepted Christ and were baptized. T I believe that Irenaus mentions infant baptism and Hippolytus promoted infant baptism. As I recall St. Augustine said that infants who die before baptism are condemned. So this is the spirit in which the Church was moving towards infants baptism. While these are the earliest examples that I am aware of mentioning infant baptism, it is possible that infant baptism was carried out by Christian churches even earlier.
As I'm sure you are aware both the Orthodox and the Catholic Church are not sola scriptura so the fact that infant baptism was not mentioned in the New Testament would not preclude the earliest churches from doing it. I'm not sure when the New Testament became fully incorporated into the Bible or Holy Scripture but I believe it was after Irenaus and Hippolytus and other early church fathers. Personally, I believe it is better to accept Christ first and then be baptized but I'm not going to blame my parents or other parents from conferring God's grace on their infant children through baptism.
@@tedlawyer9980 "Pray" is not only changed in translation but also over time. Shakespearian plays often have the phrase "pray tell me...." We do talk to the saints in prayer but the bible does not forbid this. Where the bible says "Do not bow down … " if you look at the context it is about putting someone or thing as on equal footing to God similar to call no man "teacher" … The Catholic Catechism is clear "Worship is reserved for the Godhead alone" as worship to anyone or thing is forbidden by God. Worship is not the same as prayer.
Saints are Israelites. How can you pray to them when you are killing them
@@americaisajokenow1090 Most saints are Catholic Christians and who is killing Israelites ??
1- the authority of the Pope is given by Jesus when he put Peter at the foundation of His church, and made it apostolic when he charged His apostles with the spreading of His word and the tending of His flock. If you want to be saved by Jesus, then you must follow His teachings and His Church.
2- you can only be saved through Jesus, by following His commandments and the commandments of His Holy Church, with the authority He Himself gave the Church when He founded it. We are saved by our grace because we are choosing Christ with our actions and rejecting him when we reject His teachings.
3- baptism erases original sin, not all sins. Since we have free will, when we reject Jesus we reject His salvation and He will not force us to be with Him if we choose not to be with Him.Purgatory is there to cleanse our souls of venial sins that are still with our spirit at the time of death, because we are not perfect and our free will allows us to fall prey to the weaknesses of the flesh and sin again. Your doctrine negates the free will God has given all of His children.
4- prayer can only be offered to God, and while we pray to God we also ask the saints and His Holy Mother for INTERCESSION as being already in His presence and favor they have some sway, just like when you ask your siblings for help swaying parents decisions, or the favorite student to help you sway a teachers opinion to your favor. They are NOT WORSHIPPED but venerated and admired as people who have already attained Gods favor.
5- there can only be one church that can trace its line directly to Jesus and it is that ONE CHURCH that can lead you to salvation because it is the one that was founded by Jesus, and CHARGED BY JESUS with tending His flock. All others are false shepherds.
1- the authority of the Pope is given by Jesus when he put Peter at the foundation of His church, and made it apostolic when he charged His apostles with the spreading of His word and the tending of His flock. If you want to be saved by Jesus, then you must follow His teachings and His Church.
If you read the scriptures you will know that Acts 2:38 is pretty clear on repenting and forgiveness of sins and the rest of the books in the bible confirm what Christ has done for you. Also what is expected of you.
2- you can only be saved through Jesus, by following His commandments and the commandments of His Holy Church, with the authority He Himself gave the Church when He founded it. We are saved by our grace because we are choosing Christ with our actions and rejecting him when we reject His teachings.
you can only be saved through Jesus, by following His commandments and the commandments of His Holy Church,
you can only be saved through Jesus, as to "the commandments of His Holy Church" please show in scripture where you get this concept.
3- baptism erases original sin, not all sins. Since we have free will, when we reject Jesus we reject His salvation and He will not force us to be with Him if we choose not to be with Him. Purgatory is there to cleanse our souls of venial sins that are still with our spirit at the time of death, because we are not perfect and our free will allows us to fall prey to the weaknesses of the flesh and sin again. Your doctrine negates the free will God has given all of His children.
Have you read Romans 7 at all?
Eph 2: 2 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,
YOU WERE DEAD
2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh[a] and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy,
5 MADE US ALIVE WITH CHRIST even when we were dead in transgressions
-it is by grace YOU HAVE BEEN SAVED. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,
So our spirits are in the heavenly realm not subject to sin at all. Our flesh which does not inherit the Kingdom of God is what we live in.
7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
Purgatory is there to cleanse our souls of venial sins that are still with our spirit at the time of death,
You will find that in CCC 1031 but you will not find that in all of scripture.
Coll 2:9-15 tells you what Christ has DONE for you on the cross and purgatory denies that. Well what if we do sin ? 1 John 2:1 Yes Jesus is there for us, keeping His righteousness over us so that when God looks upon us, He sees what His son did in redeeming us.
Titus 3:5, NLT: "he saved us, not because of the righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He washed away our sins, giving us a new birth and new life through the Holy Spirit."
Still think you have the stain of sin ?
4- prayer can only be offered to God, and while we pray to God we also ask the saints and His Holy Mother for INTERCESSION as being already in His presence and favor they have some sway,
I find it interesting that you pary to God but you ask the saints or Mary to pray for you as if they have God's ear? What is the difference between praying to God and asking God to do something for you? Heb 4:15-16 clearly tells you that you can approach God with confidence when you need His help. You will not find one instance of the apostles or Jesus praying or asking any dead person, in the grave spirit alive in heaven, for anything. Not one example , none . So why would you think that the mother of Jesus would have her son do things for you?
just like when you ask your siblings for help swaying parents decisions, or the favorite student to help you sway a teachers opinion to your favor. They are NOT WORSHIPPED but venerated and admired as people who have already attained Gods favor.
However even though they have attained God's favor there is no reference in all of scripture that would indicate that they have any possible way of helping anyone alive.
5- there can only be one church that can trace its line directly to Jesus and it is that ONE CHURCH that can lead you to salvation because it is the one that was founded by Jesus, and CHARGED BY JESUS with tending His flock. All others are false shepherds.
Well we agree that there is only one church and that there is no salvation outside of Jesus . What we can not do is trace the RCC to the time of Jesus as there seems to be some added history to what the church is supposed to have been doing. RCC started when ? Catholic church started when ? Believers in the Lord Jesus started when?
Jesus called His church "MY CHURCH" and the gates of hell will never prevail upon it .
The gates of hell have prevailed numerous times against the RCC.
it is that ONE CHURCH that can lead you to salvation
We have the scriptures that the church is supposed to be teaching and we find salvation pointed out to us through the scriptures. We do not have to be in a RCC to become born again believers , but we need Christ as our savior as there is no other savior for us.
But can we all deus vult?
Aveeeee Mariiiiiia
Lol. I think that is what happening. Europe benefited from that immensely. ;) they gained renaissance from that. Stole all and claimed it their own.
@@elijahcademartori9854 Áve Marī́a, grā́tiā plḗna,
Dóminus tḗcum.
Benedícta tū in muliḗribus,
et benedíctus frū́ctus véntris túī, Iḗsūs.
Sā́ncta Marī́a, Mā́ter Déī,
ṓrā prō nṓbīs peccātṓribus,
nunc et in hṓrā mórtis nóstrae. Āmēn!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Athanasius Contra Marxism The sack of Constantinople benefited the private kings, barons, knights and Genoese suppliers personal wealth. The universities, healthcare and encouragement of science provided by the Church caused it.
Definitely sounds like false teaching and misrepresentation of Catholicism which is not in line with scripture.
Teaching falsely is also not in line with scripture!
The Protestant's authority is a Catholic book? When did Jesus say he would send a book?
Jesus took 12 men and spent 3 years with them and at the end he breathed on them and gave him his authority, they have Past there authority on through the decades to the current Bishops and pope of today. Just like Moses laid his hands on Joshua and passed his authority unto him in the Old Testament.
The Bible didn't come out until 400 years after Jesus ascended into heaven. And the Bible was never meant to be the authority of the faith.
Amen brother,
Also: (Matthew 16: 19) Based on the Jewish tradition in Jesus's times, the one who holds onto the keys given by the king, will rule over his kingdom until his return. If anyone from Jesus's time would read Matthew, this is how they would interpret it. _(and actually, this is exactly how the Early Church interpreted it)_
You may want to study the history of how the bible came together. Your facts are all incorrect. The Bible is not a Catholic book. It predates the Catholic Church. It was written in Hebrew and Greek, not Latin. Many of the manuscripts of the New Testament are still preserved. My husband can read Greek and study's the New Testament in the original Greek. Also the bible didn't "come out" like the newest novel. The books/letters were preserved over time and eventually assembled. Its even thought that all the gospels were written by eye witnesses.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
katie kitchens
LOL!!! Who decided wich books would be in the bible? Are you kidding me? Who said it was originally written in latin?
Did Jesus leave a book when he went to heaven? No, he left the Catholic church
+Katie Kitchens
At pentecost, there were no Bibles, and the books *were not even written yet.* The first time the Early Church officially formed a CANON _(from which all protestants eventually got their own books, btw)_ was at the Council of Nicaea _(325 AD~)_ and further confirmed at the Council of Carthage _(419 AD~),_ in times where NO SCHISMS had yet occurred. Furthermore, between 33 and 300 AD, we find multitudes of evidences -- thanks to the Early Church Fathers -- that the Church was indeed structured the way the Catholic Church is today, and that their practices are the exact same as well. _(Real body and blood Eucharist, Confession to priests, infant baptism, and most importantly: Apostolic succession... all of which are rejected by Protestantism, revealing their disassociation with the Early Church, the True Church founded by Christ)._
Your mistake is to believe Protestant lies claiming that the Catholic Church was created later in History...
EVEN THOUGH:
APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION
*Tertullian wrote in 200 AD~ : (From "Against Heresies", Chapter 32)*
_"But if there be any (heresies) which are bold enough to plant themselves in the midst of the apostolic age, that they may thereby seem to have been handed down by the apostles, because they existed in the time of the apostles, we can say: Let them produce the original records of their churches; let them unfold the roll of their bishops, running down in due succession from the beginning in such a manner that (that first bishop of theirs) bishop shall be able to show for his ordainer and predecessor some one of the apostles or of apostolic men"_
*Clement of Rome: Epistle I, Chapter 44, 90 AD~*
_The Ordinances of the Apostles, that There Might Be No Contention Respecting the Priestly Office._
_Our apostles also knew, through our Lord Jesus Christ, that there would be strife on account of the office of the episcopate. For this reason, therefore, inasmuch as they had obtained a perfect fore-knowledge of this, they appointed those [ministers] already mentioned, and afterwards gave instructions, that when these should fall asleep, other approved men should succeed them in their ministry. We are of opinion, therefore, that those appointed by them, or afterwards by other eminent men, with the consent of the whole church, and who have blamelessly served the flock of Christ, in a humble, peaceable, and disinterested spirit, and have for a long time possessed the good opinion of all, cannot be justly dismissed from the ministry._
INFANT BAPTISM
*Origen: 248 AD~, Commentaries on the Romans 5, 9*
_"The Church received from the apostles the tradition of giving baptism even to infants. The apostles, to whom were committed the secrets of the divine sacraments, knew there are in everyone innate strains of [original] sin, which must be washed away through water and the Spirit"_
REAL PRESENCE IN THE EUCHARIST (BODY AND BLOOD)
*Ignatius of Antioch: 110 AD~, (The Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans, chapter 7)*
_Let us stand aloof from such heretics. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again. Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death in the midst of their disputes. But it were better for them to treat it with respect, that they also might rise again._
(among many others)
Why protestants abandoned these practices, and that the Catholic Church still has them all.
Knowing that there is only one truth, why the Holy Spirit supposedly "inspire" you all to different Biblical interpretations, dividing you constantly?
How could they remember that God DIVIDED the tribes of Israel who abandoned his covenant, and that the SAME THING happens to your churches...
Because they _DID_ leave his true Church, and the proofs are everywhere for you to see, only you have to go through a wall of pride and illusions first.
God and his Church are waiting for you two.
Tell your husband to read more, and you as well, because you don't fight for him, you fight AGAINST him... without even knowing.
Verum I see you are very passionate about this and I admire that. I wish more people were passionate about their faith. All I was trying to add to the discussion was that the holy scriptures are not owned or written by the Catholic Church and Protestants did not get them from the Catholic Church. They were God-breathed and inspired to be written by godly men such as the apostles and prophets (which you may disagree on due to the fact that you may view the apostles as Catholic.) The Pentateuch and Tora were written way before the Catholic Church though. Unless you think Moses was Catholic! Ha Ha I'm just teasing. We could go round and round on the sacraments and history and doctrine and such but it's really not helpful here and I don't feel like writing a book right now, others have done that for me. You inspired me to brush up on my history of early church fathers and their thoughts on doctrine. There was many disagreements even back then. I thought this was a neat neutral site. If your interacted. carm.org/early-church-fathers-baptism All I will say is that I am very thankful for the Catholic Church in its preservation of the scriptures (yes, previously canon) throughout history but I'm also thankful for the reformers who burned at the stake fighting the papacy to have scriptures translated into the common language. I'm thankful that now I can own my own English Bible without fear of being drowned or burned alive. I do greatly respect the church fathers like Justin martyr, tertullian, and many others for their contributions in bringing the canon together. I can also whole heartedly affirm the Nicaean Creed (325). There is common ground. But I hope that the greatest common ground that can be agreed upon it that by the scripture we can know the way to salvation.
Titus 3:5-7 "he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Eph 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast.
I also encourage you to read...your Bible. Which, unless you're a priest, you can thank the Protestants for fighting with their lives for that privilege. ;-)
1. Catholics hold the Bible as an authority as well. This should say that Catholics hold authority in the pope and Protestants hold authority in themselves.
2. Catholic “works” are a cooperation with God. It is all God’s work.
3. His understanding of purgatory is just laughable. Purgatory is never given a time frame and focuses more on the idea that nothing unclean can enter into Heaven.
4. Catholic prayer to saints is akin to what Protestants do when they ask others to pray for them. Catholics do NOT think that the saints are gods.
5. Jesus wants us all to be One church. He only founded ONE church.
The other major problem with his video is that there is no definitive Protestant view. Therefore, not only is everything said about Catholics only partially true, everything he said about Protestants is only partially true.
Potential Protestant View (from a Protestant who admittedly knows little of Catholicism).
1. Protestants only hold the Bible as authoritative (not "as well"). This is the concept of Sola Scriptura, and where as a Protestant teacher/preacher, you are simply conveying what Scripture teaches, and have *ABSOLUTELY NO* authority over the Bible. Any Protestant teacher/preacher should be open to scrutiny by others to what Scripture says. There is no equal authority in man to the Bible.
2. There is no cooperation with God in Protestant views. All good works a Christian does (per the Protestant viewpoint) is by the overflowing of the Holy Spirit in a believers life. This is where the Fruit of the Spirit comes from in Galations 5, and when James says that he'll show his faith by his works, we see that as to mean that someone who is a Christian will be noticibly different because of their lives. This doesn't mean they are actively trying to do good things to be holy (otherwise, it would be seeds of the Spirit, not fruit of the Spirit), but that because the love of God is in them, they cannot help but have good works flow from them.
3. Acts 10:15 says 'And the voice came to him again a second time, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”' (ESV) or in KJV 'And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.' The redeeming power of Christ's sacrafice and resurrection is a complete cleansing of the believer. When you receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit and are sealed by Him, you are made clean by Jesus's blood (akin, in a way, to how OT sacrafices worked). This isn't to say that a believer is now sinless, because that's definitely not true, but all of our sin, past, present, and future, are all forgiven through Jesus's sacrifice (we then, having the Holy Spirit inside us, are grieved when we sin, and are led to repentance by the Spirit). So to require a place to be made cleanse pervets and minimizes the saving power of Christ.
4. I don't think this point is true, both in practice and concept. Although, like I mentioned earlier, I'm not very familiar with Catholic concepts, asking my wife or my friends to pray for me does not negate my need and desire to pray directly to God. In fact, I could go completely without "asking others to pray for [me]" and that would be ok (not the best approach, as it is a blessing for us to bear one another's burdens). So why would I pray to someone who's physical life is gone, when in all essences I could just as easily be praying directly to God. I don't see the benefits of this. And, more importantly, I see no Scripture to back up a view of prayer like this...
5. I've heard this before, and it sounds nice, and I'll admit that one could possibly pull this from what He tells Peter (about being upon this rock I'll build my church), however...if that's true, I don't see how the Catholic church follows that model. The single leading man in Rome, who directs everything? Even Paul says in Galations that if he ever comes to them teaching a Gospel different than what he originally taught, they should cast him out. So if the Pope started teaching something that was different than what the Bible and Gospels say, or is in disagreement with other Popes, would you cast him out? I think, like communism, this sounds wonderful in utopian theory, but in practice this just isn't viable. It does pain me to see so many different Protestant denominations, but I also have close Christians brothers and sisters who I disagree fundamentally with on secondary and tertiary issues (election, pedobaptism, etc.) yet still hold fast to what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:3, being that the primary importance is the death, resurrection, and ascension of Christ. So although our philosophy of ministry is different (and theirs is in no way a violation of the Bible, we just interpret some Scriptures differently), I would never consider them outside the Body of Christ.
On a final note, thank you for challenging me (if not purposefully) to think through some of this. It's always beneficial to actively work through some of this for one's self!
Please do not characterize Protestant Christians this way.
1. Nope. This is circular, what establishes the pope? Jesus. How do we know this? Tradition and scripture?. It's proper to say that sola scriptura means Scripture, the ORIGINAL tradition of the apostles who had CONTACT with Jesus is the ultimate, infallible, and final authority. And that any interpretation including the Pope (who by the way has disagreed with other Popes and with other bishops of non-Roman churches) is falliable.
2.We're talking about salvation here. There are good works done by you which are done by God, so God is saving Himself?
3. Please read *official* Catholic doctrine on this, not on your local understanding
4. Where do we have any examples of this by Jesus or his early apostles? Did they pray to anyone besides God?
5. I agree. The problem is you define the ROMAN Catholic church to be the "one church", but we know the Jerusalem local church and the Antioch local church were founded before the Roman local church, so why does Rome claim superiority?
"there is no definitive Protestant view" really? All protestants hold to the 5 solas.
@@JohnWiltberger
Hi John, thanks for the reply. I hope this is helpful in explaining a Catholic perspective.
I agree with what you are saying. I was merely pointing out that Catholics also hold the Bible as an authority. We don’t find Sola Scriptura taught in the Holy Scripture.
Yes. The Catholic Church does not disagree with most of what you wrote. Works are not us trying to be Holy, though. They are a manifestation of our faith. However, if your statement “because the love of God is in them, they cannot help but have good works flow from them” is true, how do we reconcile that with the many warnings about perservering, such as the one in Galatians 6:9 “And let us not grow weary in well-doing, for in due season we shall reap, if we do not lose heart.” If God’s love is overpowering us, how could we lose heart?
According to Catholic doctrine, we take seriously the Holiness of Christ AND his work on the cross. We are not minimizing Christ’s sacrifice. It truly saves us. Hebrews 12:14 tells us to “Strive for peace with all men, and for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord.” We all sin. Because we are sinners, we believe that our attachment to sin is what separates us from God. And, because nothing unclean can enter into heaven (Rev 21:27), we believe that some of the saved will have to be cleansed of their attachment to sin. This is not because Christ’s sacrifice is not enough, but because we take seriously the principle that we will need to actually be Holy to receive the beatific vision. This is alluded to in 1 Cor 3:13-15. “Each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test that sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” If all the saved went directly to heaven, what loss could possibly be suffered?
I agree with you. We do not need to pray to anybody but God. Period. We can, however, ask loved ones to pray for us and do the same for others (I know I do and I’m sure that you do as well). Catholics (and Protestants too) take seriously what scripture teaches in James 5:16-18 and in 1 Peter 3:12. The prayers of the righteous are more powerful than any others. We ask the saints in Heaven to pray for us because they are more righteous. Catholics do not think that because they are gone physically that they are no longer part of the body of Christ. According to 1 Cor 12:12-26, we are baptized into the One body. That includes Christians that are alive today as well as those who have passed.
Again, Jesus founded one Church. Our hope resides in Christ and we believe that it was important that He founded His church on Peter. The papacy is complex. We believe that the Pope cannot teach error when he sits on the chair of Peter and is teaching in accordance with the magisterium on faith and morals alone. Outside of that, popes can, and have, erred. We do not think that Mt 16:18 grants a Pope unconditional, supernatural infallibility, instead, it is a much more nuanced position. But what Jesus said when he founded the Church. “And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.” If Jesus promised it, how can we ignore it?
@@wilsonw.t.6878 Hi Wilson.
1. I was being snarky because his explanation of the Catholic perspective on authority is just false. We also hold the Bible to be infallible. Whether we agree or not with the Pope on all matters does not affect our salvation. We also adhere to what we find in scripture. Where is sola scriptura itself taught in scripture?
2. I don't understand what you are saying. Catholicism does not teach that we earn our own salvation. We just cooperate with God's Grace.
3. Please point me to this doctrine. I have not found anything that teaches what Dr. Wills is saying about purgatory. Also, my understanding that nothing clean can enter Heaven is Biblical. If I am wrong please show me where the Bible claims that the unclean can enter Heaven.
4. Paul asks for prayers throughout the New Testament. He wants us to pray for each other. Since the saints in Heaven (especially Jesus' mother) are also part of the Body of Christ, it makes sense that they can pray for us. In Revelations 5:8, we see imagery of the prayers of the saints being delivered to God by those in Heaven.
5. I didn't define the ROMAN Catholic church as the one. Jesus founded His church with Peter as its rock. Mt. 16:18. The church is the "pillar and foundation of truth" 1 Tim 3:15. We are exhorted, in cases of correction to "take it to the Church" in Mt 18:17. In Acts 15:1-11, we see this acted out, when Paul and Barnabas need to confirm that there was no longer a need for circumcision.
God Bless you.
Also,
What were you referring to when you wrote "Please do not characterize Protestants in this way." My comment was a correction about the false teachings being promulgated in this video.
If you lack faith, good works are meaningless.
IF you lack faith there are no good works.
@@renefernandez2066
Funny, but Jesus said that he saves people according to their good works (Matt 25:31-46). He apparently forgot to mention faith. Now, he was no Paul, but maybe we should consider sometimes what he had to say.
@@bridgefin sounds good my friend
@@bridgefin Jesus our savior was greater than Paul.
@@eugenegina2410
You said: Jesus our savior was greater than Paul.
Me: Shhh. If the Protestants hear that they will want to become Catholic.
Amazing. I didn't know all this and thank you for the video.
A good explanation but this video is very Protestant sided
Regrettably, yet another childish misrepresentation of the Catholic faith. This ill-informed commentary is ignorant of the fundamentalist - and therefore very distorted - interpretations of the Bible that has underpinned much Protestant theology. The refusal to understand the very important role of tradition is another weakness in this commentary. Remember SCRIPTURE GREW OUT OF TRADITION, not the other way around. Much more one could say, but my final remark has to be that even many Protestants would dismiss this commentary.
The early Catholic Church assembled the New Testament, appointed bishops thru out the Old World, spread the faith for 15 centuries prior to the reformation.
I identify a lot with protestant ideology, yet I practice Ignatian excercises. Is there a reconciliation in between?
No no no no no. You don’t get saved by good works in catholicism. We do good works because if we dont our faith is dead. James 2 says: 14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without [a]your works, and I will show you my faith by [b]my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is [c]dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made [d]perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was [e]accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
This is so often misquoted as to be ridiculous.
James 2 :14 is also the verse that Jehova's wittnes use. please read the book of Galatians. CHapter 2 and 3. at Chapter 3 Paul only takes care of this situation, because the church of Galatia was under that lie. but Pauls says :
1-O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
2This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
4Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
5He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
why he says you foolish Galatians ? because we sad what they were doing at verse 2 and 5, in other words he is saying did you get the Spirit (salvation ephes 1:13) by believing or by doing works? of course by believing so why are they doing works? if the problem was the dead faith as James says apostel Pauls should have said it to church but he saus dont be fool anymore but belive and serve God.
No no no no no. You don’t get saved by good works in catholicism. We do good works because if we dont our faith is dead.
So on one hand you are saved by God but on the other hand you are not saved by God but by doing something ? Faith without works tells you that you need proof of your belief, but that does not have anything to do with your salvation ..
17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead
So if you repent , follow Christ , and believe God there will be a change in your life and you will do the works that God has for you Eph 2:10 because of salvation freely given you.
@@bobloblawb2593 lol. I’m not the best at explaining this. Works of the law are not necessary works of love are. If you say you love something but that love changes nothing about you or what you do, what kind of love is it? If I didn’t want to spend time with someone but I told them I love them what kind of love is that? My husband loves his friends and family I’ve never met. I offered to take them in my home (although I have severe social anxiety), because they need it and I love my husband and trust my husband. Love needs to have sacrifice for it to be real. If you sacrifice nothing and the other person is sacrificing everything, your love means boo. Think about the parable of the Good Samaritan. There was a man robbed, many people, even priests passed him by, but a Samaritan, who is hated by the Jews of the era, stops, brings the man to an inn(where they also do medical work), pays for everything the guy needs and leaves his name saying he will even pay more if more is due. Those are works of love and sacrifice. But you’re not sacrificing for some guy in the ditch, you’re sacrificing for the child of the one you love. Calling someone a Good Samaritan is like saying they’re one good person in a million bad ones to the Jews.
The works are a necessary piece. Salvation is free. You say you do the works because you’ve changed, and I agree, but if you stop it’s just like a marriage covenant that fails. You have to keep up your end of the bargain. The person you live doesn’t love you for the things that you do, but that doesn’t mean you don’t need to do anything. Repentance is not something you do once and you’re good. No, you actively turn away from all sins. That’s still an act. But there’s more. If you’re a grafted in piece to a family like a step dad or something, you won’t just be accepted. Or maybe at first you will be, but if you borrow things without returning it or don’t work for long periods of time and have unhealthy ideas of what your part in this relationship is, you getting most of the benefit, while your partner incurs all loss, you have another thing coming. Faith without works is dead because there’s no love in it. I was afraid of this concept as well. I thought I had to do maybe too much to be saved. What I didn’t know, was that I was already doing most of what I needed to be doing. I already loved people and loved helping them. I already sacrificed time to God. I actively helped anyone put into my life, but I started growing weary. Tired of helping people, I’d give everything but my husband was abusive and unfaithful with men and women, I would watch my sister’s kids all the time but she’d still go back to her abusive boyfriend. I’d work all day to provide my mother with rent, car insurance, a phone, gas, groceries, and no one gave a whip I’d come home from cashiering at Walmart where I also gave my all to every stranger making sure they got every product they wanted with a smile and even hugged people who needed it. I never felt like I was doing enough though snd I never got anything back, except from my child. He had problems. He would scream and scream and scream no matter who watched him as long as I wasn’t holding him. When I would get back, I felt like he was the only person in the world who loved me. Btw, we have had him tested over the years and technically scientifically, nothing is wrong with him. The only progress my current husband and I made with him was becoming Catholic. Mind you it’s not leaps and bounds. It’s like one minute he hears us and understands what to do and the next, he loses it and starts screaming. He is 12 now. I had several people offer to “adopt” him from me for as much as $150,000. No matter how much I could have used the money, it didn’t phase me in the least. My child. He needs me. I have sacrificed everything for the child that opened my womb from being barren for 10 years. He hadn’t given anything back really until recently. He started doing things I was too achy to do. He started being nicer to his siblings. He doesn’t believe God could love him but I put him in front of the mirror and showed him his smile as I told him the changes in him. So he said, God’s working on me too? And I said, yeah, now that you’re letting him.
@@junelledembroski9183 Well i certainly hope the Lord blesses you for what you have and for what you are doing.
For the longest time I thought protestants were a type of atheists.
bruh we belive jesus as our lord and savior
No, but following the Protestant idea of salvation to its logical conclusion leads to more nihilism.
@@siegeheavenly3601 Then follow what the scriptures teach and not what any protestant or roman catholic believes. The scriptures are God's word to us .
You can tell this guy is a Protestant due to the constant use of we when referring to Protestant beliefs and the use of they when referring to Catholic beliefs
which is ironic, since there is no "we" in protestantism, as every protestant is their own little infallible pope.
he missed literally the most important part and most defining feature of the Catholic Church. And that is the Holy Eucharist. Catholics are marked by communion because communion is the most important part of Catholic Worship and is central to the Mass. Without the Eucharist Catholicism does not exist.
Okay speaking as an active and fully participating Catholic here. Everything he said was somewhat close to truth. He is correct on the Protestant view of things, but he is incorrect in the Catholic theology teaching an understanding of the doctrines he spoke about.
True, that's why people don't fully understand what we believe in and often accuse the Catholic church of blasphemy
Asaph Vapor,
1 Corinthians 10:16-16. What ONE SACRIFICE do all Catholics "participate in" and what are the effects for the many and what do we all "BECOME"???
Asaph Vapor
"Real Presence" or Holy Eucharist Defense
1. "Pascal lamb"
In Exodus 12:3-14 GOD "forever" liturgically commands the PASSOVER, as a means of proper worship, which REQUIRED the "lamb" to be consumed for "Death to Passover". Jesus, the "Lamb of GOD" (John 1:29, 1 Corinthians 5:7, 1 Peter 1:19) transformed this "forever" GOD commanded PASSOVER Feast during the "Last Supper" in every synoptic Gospel account into the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER (Luke 22:19). Further, in CONTEXT of the PASSOVER (John 6:4) Jesus Christ's "Bread of LIFE" discourse REQUIRES us to "abide" in the "Lamb of GOD'S" BODY and BLOOD for "Death to Passover" (John 6:54-58). ***Protestants, Jesus states the consequences of not partaking of Him in John **6:53**.***
In John 6:60, everyone was disbelieving Jesus's "hard" teaching (John 6:54-58) about the Holy Eucharist. So, if you were Jesus how would you respond to people disbelieving you??? Wouldn't you want to provide some "proof" or "evidence" you mean what you say??? How does Jesus Christ respond to His disbelievers in John 6:60 and what "proof" will He provide per John 6:62???
2. "Heavenly Manna"
GOD provided "Spiritual Food and Drink" (1 Corinthians 10:1-4) to His old covenant people, so wouldn't Jesus Christ provide something for His NEW COVENANT chosen people???
Jesus Christ compares Himself to the old covenant "Heavenly Manna" in John 6:31-35. Jesus teaches the "Heavenly Manna" that came down "daily" will now actually be Him (John 6:51-58).
In the "Our Father" prayer Jesus Christ is stating "give us THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD" referring to Himself as the "BREAD OF LIFE" (John 6:35, 48, 51).
Acts 2:46. The Catholic Church has been "breaking bread (of LIFE) daily" of the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER (Luke 22:19) before the Book of Acts was even written in the mid 60's AD, all along since Jesus Christ's death in 33AD, and to this very day fulfilling Malachi 1:11 prophecy all across the world "daily"!!!
3. "HOW HE WAS MADE KNOWN TO THEM in the Breaking Bread" (Luke 24:35)
In the Luke 24:13-35 "Road to Emmaus" scriptures there clearly is a "structure" being referrenced - being the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER or Catholic Mass.
In Luke 24:27 there is an opening and interpreting of the Sacred Scriptures (Readings and Homily). Then, an explanation of how Jesus Christ fulfilled all the old covenant prophecies and covenant promises. Then, we have the "participation in" (1 Corinthians 10:16-17) of the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER "breaking of bread" where the "Lamb of GOD" Jesus Christ becomes "KNOWN" to us.
Protestants what does Jesus Christ say to you refusing to "break bread" with Him in His ONE and ONLY "Kingdom of GOD" here on earth being the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH per Luke 7:21-23??? Still saved???
4. "Bread of the PRESENCE"
Along with the Passover, GOD "forever" liturgically commands the "Bread of the PRESENCE" to be part of His proper worship in Leviticus 24:5-9.
In the old Jewish Temple, the old "Heaven and Earth" of worship, a veil seperated two main worship rooms. In the outer room housed the "Bread of the PRESENCE" and it was separated by the veil from the inner room called the HOLY of HOLIES that no one but the High Priest could go. This HOLY of HOLIES is where Jews believed God's "real presence" remained. So, when Jesus Christ died the veil was "torn" (Matthew 27:51, Mark 15:38, Luke 23:45) that separated the HOLY of HOLIES and the "Bread of the PRESENCE" in the outer room, so there was no longer any barrier (liturgically speaking) between GOD'S presence and the "Bread of the PRESENCE".
So, if the veil was "torn" allowing GOD'S presence in the Holy of Holies to flow to the "BREAD of the PRESENCE" in the outer room of worship, then what does the Holy Eucharist "Bread of the PRESENCE" truly become in the fulfilled NEW COVENANT FORM???
5. "ONE BREAD ONE BODY"
1 Corinthians 10:16-17. If the "many" become "ONE BODY" through "participation in" the ONE SACRIFICE of the "Lamb of GOD" Jesus Christ in the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER, then how can the Holy Eucharist possibly be a mere symbol???
Truly, we can ONLY become ONE BODY (1 Corinthians 10:16-17, Ephesians 5:29-32), ONE FLOCK (John 10:16), ONE TEMPLE (1 Corinthians 3:17), ONE CHURCH (Ephesians 4:4-6), ONE BRIDE (2 Corinthians 11:2) through the "ONE" Jesus Christ (John 6:54-58) the "Lamb of God" (John 1:29, 1 Corinthians 5:7, 1 Peter 1:19) in the "Marriage Supper of the Lamb" (Revelation 19:9) NEW COVENANT PASSOVER (Luke 22:19).
6. "EAT AND DRINK JUDGMENT UPON OURSELVES"
1 Corinthians 11:27-29. If "partaking unworthily" is "eating and drinking JUDGMENT upon ourselves", then how in the world rationally and logically can the Holy Eucharist merely and simply be a symbol as Protestants purport???
7. Partaking of "Divinity" (John 6:55-56, 2 Peter 1:4, Catechism #460) to become a true Son or Daughter of GOD.
In the Garden of Eden man was created in the "image" and "likeness" of GOD. Through Adam and Eve's disobedience it caused us to lose our "likeness" to GOD (original sin). For GOD's "likeness" and goodness can never mix with sin. (John 3:6, Romans Chapter 5) Jesus Christ is the NEW ADAM OF OBEDIENCE.
In God's beautiful salvation plan He takes a "do not partake" disobedience and removal of the "TREE OF LIFE" (Genesis 3:23) from sinful Adam and Eve and transforms it to telling us "to partake" of the "TREE OF LIFE" (John 6:54-58, Revelation 22:2, 14) through the NEW ADAM OF OBEDIENCE (Romans 5:12-21) Jesus Christ the "Lamb of God".
Catholics receive His "divinity" in the Holy Eucharist obtaining our "likeness" back if we partake "worthily" (1 Corinthians 11:27-29) and thereby we truly become "divine" Sons and Daughters of GOD. We "unite" with the "Son" Jesus Christ the NEW ADAM (Romans 5:12-21). As a result, we become a part of GOD'S NEW CREATION (2 Corinthians 5:17, Galatians 6:15, Ephesians 1:10, Colossians 1:15-17, 20) here on earth.
The "TREE OF LIFE" hangs above every Catholic Church altar.
8. "Thanksgiving" or Jewish Todah
In this Jewish Messianic prophecy feast the "lamb" sacrifice had to occur at the same time the "bread and wine" was consecrated. Just as the Jews believed they were "participating in" the original and timeless first PASSOVER when celebrating their old covenant "forever" GOD commanded Passover (Exodus 12:14), so do Catholics believe we are "participating in" the ONE SACRIFICE of Jesus Christ during the consecration of the bread and wine (1 Corinthians 10:16-17) in the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER.
The Greek "Eucharistia" or English meaning "Thanksgiving" being the One Holy "Eucharist" is the source, summit, and ultimate high point of worship in the NEW COVENANT.
9. "Marriage Supper of the Lamb" (Revelation 19:9).
Every CATHOLIC during the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER "Mass" enters the aisle and approaches the "Bridegroom" Jesus Christ the "Lamb of God" who hangs above every single altar. We get to see the "Bridegroom" who emptied Himself out on the cross for His ONE and ONLY "BRIDE" the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH. The "right and just" response of each and every Catholic is to give all of ourselves back to Him in the "Marriage Supper of the Lamb".
Historical support per Early Church Father beliefs on the "Real Presence" Holy Eucharist:
www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/father/a5.html
Be "ONE WITH CHRIST" by accepting His ONE and ONLY BODY in the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH.
@Asaph Vapor Hello, first of all I would like to say that Catholics are not the only ones that believe in transubstantiation (Real Presence of God in the Eucharist). Anglicans, Lutherans, Orthodoxies believed that it was real. Luther ("father" of all protestants) believed in it, he didn't think it should have been a doctrine because it was obvious. Furthermore, the early church believed it was real read the writings of the early church fathers as they would have understood it. They had icons if it in churches. They took it for granted that it was real. Read this article for more information and quotes from the Bible. media.ascensionpress.com/2018/03/08/heres-the-early-church-fathers-upholding-transubstantiation-in-their-own-words/.
God bless
@Asaph Vapor we also do believe that Jesus died once for all humanity. If you have time also read this matt1618.freeyellow.com/highpriest2.html it discusses the Bible passage you quoted.
The Protestant Alliance publishes a quarterly magazine "The Reformer" which contains a variety of articles on church history, doctrine and modern issues. You can contact the Protestant Alliance via their website simply google The Protestant Alliance.
Catholics believe the church AND the Bible are equal authority, you didn't say that. Also we do not believe "works adds more merit or grace to Christs already sufficient sacrifice, we do the works to maintain are faith.
Excellent point We see lots of misrepresentation of Catholic belief.
AJA Deacon Yep, especially from Protestant sources
1) Believing in the Authority of the Pope is not required for salvation in the RCC. Scriptures are indeed an authority in the Church as they are a cornerstone of the Magisterium.
2) Catholics don't add to the merits of Christ, his grace is sufficient, what Catholics and many protestents actually don't believe is you can say a prayer at ten years old and then never live for Christ and follow his teachings but expect to enter into heaven
3) Purgatory not a million years of pain and suffering, there are still consequences and punishment for sin its just for the believer it is not eternal
4) As far as prayer you 100% mis stating Catholic doctrine, no prayers are made to saints or Mary. Catholics believe we are all part of a communion of saint and as such we ask them to prayer for us, to intercede on our behalf. Protestents ask fellow believer to pray for them they just don't think those dead in Christ are part of that community.
5) There is only one Church, that is Christ's church, the body of believers. Full fellowship and communion of that body is found within the Church, salvation is possibly outside the Church but why wouldn't you want to fullness of what Christ offers within the Church.
Mr. Carter, you have stated the true positions of Catholicism extremely well
though I am Catholic, for several years I taught Bible studies at a Baptist Church...and the Baptist's were amazed that I didn't believe what they thought I believed. I would like to think that they gave up looking for my horns and hooves and accepted me as a fellow Christian with different points of theological emphasis then their nominal points of emphasis. Yet I suspect that, in the end, most of them just believed that I was a Catholic mutation like some X-MEN team member!
I deeply respect the energy of our Protestant evangelical Christian brothers as they follow the Great Commission and seek to spread the gospel and win souls for the Lord; this is what many more Catholic Christians should be doing. At the same time, I feel badly for them for their lack of spiritual depth because their faith is based on a simple understanding of faith as a non miraculous phenomenon and the church as a collection of detached individuals with no historical depth or connection to Believers who have gone before us. And though they superficialize whatever sacraments they accept, I have been blessed to witness a small number of them being called to the Eucharist and the miraculous change that JESUS' Real Presence brings to their lives. God bless them all and save them...as they seek to save others.
If believing in the authority of the pope is not required as you say, then please explain the Catholic doctrine of papal infallibility.
It is sad to me how much beauty is missed in this (mis)understanding of Roman Catholicism. Praying for you and all your viewers! Thanks for sharing.
A very good presentation, thank you.
Not a honest answer. As a Baptist, with a intrest in Early Church and Catholic/Orthodox theology, I can tell that this is a VERY biased Protenstantic presentation.
Just one example that touches #1 and #2. "There is no salvation outside the Church". Yes, this was what the Catholic and Early Chuch was teaching.
But as always when studying something historic, you have to ask; What is the context? How did world look like then?
Simpified, we can say that during the first 1000 years there only was one Church, catholic to it's nature, - The Church of Christ. So "no salvation outside" referred to Jesus' teaching ("I am the way, thruth and life. No one comes to the Father...").
And later, but before the Age of Discovery, people and the Church believed that the Gospel had reached the whole world, so everybody had already heared the Gospel. (now we know, how wrong they were)
Problems and debates started after the Reformation, and simpifying again, ended with the II Vatican Council (1965).
So what is the Catholic view? Answer: Salvation is through Jesus Christ alone. Neither the Church, Pope or any other human being can grant Salvation. Nor can it be earned by good works or any other way.
The rest of this video is equally superficial and biased. Ending the video, saying there is no One Church as Catholics say, because "we" represent the true church, is just silly. Didn't Jesus pray for the unity of all His disciples?
(And NO, as a life long Baptist, I don't believe the myth that Baptism is the only true church, all the way from John the Baptist and the Anabaptists. The Baptist church started in England in the 1600s)
"FAITH ALONE"" Romans 3:28 is a key verse in the differences between traditional Protestants and Catholics. You will notice that Paul says a man is justified by faith (pistei in Greek). When Martin Luther translated the letter to the Romans into German in the sixteenth century, he added the word alone -but alone is not in the original Greek text. The phrase “faith alone” does occur in the New Testament: one time, in James 2:24. There the inspired apostle denies that justification is from faith alone. Let me quote it: “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.”
@Jose Riquelme I understand James very well. He did NOT think as you say "by faith alone can you be saved" It says in the bible "faith alone" once !!! The sentence is ""You are not saved by faith alone" Do you know where it is to be found??? If not I will help you again.
@Jose Riquelme I have given you quotes from scripture. So you want to change scripture to fit in with your ideas - I suppose that is the protestant way.
@Jose Riquelme Well you repeat the lie "Catholics believe Jesus was not enough" btw "Works" was among what Jesus instructed … but you think Jesus got it wrong So sorry for you.
@Jose Riquelme Every time you and the protestant hate preachers lie about Catholicism or change the bible you deny Jesus and say Jesus was wrong.... so sad you think that is Christian . Research Pastor Dr Scott Hahn ...…. there is still hope for you.
Very well said. Not judgmental, just highlighting the differences. I really liked this video.
We are all in one through Christ Jesus our lord
There is no way that in the Catholic Bible all the Protestant Bible that says that you have to submit to the pope for salvation that is undoctrinal. Know where the first the gospel Jesus ever taught that all the Apostle Paul or St Paul whatever name you want to use they never thought that
You are wrong about Purgatory too. There is reference to that state in The Holy Bible.
You also have no idea how Catholic Doctrines are derived but are stating wrongful assumptions and insinuations.
It is very painful to listen to your twisted semantics but I weathered it just to prove to myself how misguided Protestants can be regarding Catholicism.
As for praying to the Saints and the Blessed Mother, this is known as Intercessory Praying ; we ask the Saints, Apostles , martyrs , Our Blessed Mother, to intercede by praying for us .
And so I have a genuine query here :
Do Protestants never ask others to pray for them ?
Do Protestants not pray for each other ?
Or rather should I rephrase -
Do Protestants pray for each other ?
May i ask where in the bible mentions about the purgatory?
@@sunkyokim6052 I cannot quote offhand but I read it recently in one of our Daily Readings. It probably came from one of the Pauline letters or exhortations. You will NOT find the word " purgatory " per se , but you will find a reference to a place or a state of purification ....
I shall look it up in the Catholic Answers Section of my Bible and post here if I can get back here.
Purgatory is a strong Catholic belief possibly a dogma; however , I am not a Catholic Theologian to expound on it. But , I know that Catholic Doctrines and Dogmas are arrived at through careful study and extrapolation of what is found written in Sacred Scriptures which includes the Bible, and Sacred Traditions, etc.
@@lingsuyen9509 Do you know the name of the book ? cuz we Protestants don’t have that written on our Bibles
@@sunkyokim6052 I actually typed a reply with all the references middle of last night but the third time I edited , each time it would not update the edited message,,and then I discarded it by mistake.
Shall try again soon.
@@lingsuyen9509 i think that happens if the comment is too long
This guy's a troll. He's obviously not Catholic, so why is he trying to explain a faith he doesn't believe in? I'm a Catholic, and this would be like if I made a video on all the reasons Protestant teachings are wrong (and explain them very badly).
joseph jackson Anyone can explain a faith that they don’t believe in. You do not have to adhere to it to explain it.
Asaph Vapor look at John 21:25
"Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written."
Asaph Vapor so if everything doesn't come from the Bible, what's your problem?
Good video! Thank God that more and more Christians are speaking up and declaring the major differences between Catholics and Protestants.
Number 4 is incorrect I believe, as they don’t pray to the saints, the ask them to pray for them , there is a huge different. People asking the saints to pray for them is no difference in me asking a brother or sister in the church to pray for me.
the brother or sister in the church if they are believers are saints . The prayer to a saint is not found in scripture nor is the concept that only some people are saints . All believers in the Lord Jesus Christ in the new testament were called saints. Now you say that you can ask a brother or sister to pray for you and as they are alive they can do that but you will never find anyone praying to anyone else other than God in the entire bible .
@@bobloblawb2593
You: Now you say that you can ask a brother or sister to pray for you and as they are alive they can do that but you will never find anyone praying to anyone else other than God in the entire bible .
Me: Praying to a saint is asking another Christian in the body of Christ to pray for you. That is totally consistent with Paul's admonition to pray for one another.
@@bridgefin James 5:16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.
Interesting in that I am to confess my sins to another and they are to confess their sins to me to be healed and I have a real hard time hearing the dead saint in the grave ,spirit alive in heaven, confessing his or her sins to me so that I may be healed?
So is this saint I am confessing to a living person or not.?
Do the scriptures ever indicate we are to pray /ask to anyone other than God for results
" Praying to a saint is asking another Christian in the body of Christ to pray for you. "
I agree with this statement as long as you stipulate it is a living person on this side of death not someone who has passed from life to death.
The Bible states over and over that communicating with the dead AT ALL is a sin. Explain why asking the dead to pray for you supposedly is not.
And yes, Mary DOES get out on a pedestal
"Holy Mary Mother of God"
Mary is the mother of Christ Jesus as Gods incarnation as a man in earth. Not the mother OF God.
Regardless, how is talking to Mary AT ALL okay? If you're not supposed to communicate with the dead, how is talking to Mary for ANYTHING okay?
@@spiffygonzales5899
You: Explain why asking the dead to pray for you supposedly is not.
Me: A. Those references are all in the Old Testament, before Jesus conquered death.
B. No two way communication is desired or sought.
C. There are no dead since Jesus conquered death. There is no death in Christ Jesus.
You: Mary is the mother of Christ Jesus as Gods incarnation as a man in earth. Not the mother OF God.
Me: Catholics believe that Jesus is God and that makes Mary the Mother of God. Sorry you don't agree in the divinity of Christ.
You: how is talking to Mary AT ALL okay?
Me: What is wrong with asking another Christian for them to pray for you, especially when their prayers are most beneficial?
There are so many warped thoughts here about Catholicism I don't know where to begin. If this is common Protestant thinking then there is a chasm of misunderstandings on their part. Suffice it to say that you can and should redo this video, point by point, topic by topic, but have a Catholic theologian as a guest to explain the Catholicism points. You miss them.
That would require facts and logic. Protestantism is devoid of either that's why there is so much division in their own ranks.
On #5, how does one know what "faith in Christ" truly is unless they are in communion with the authoritative Church? If one wants true faith and true teaching, how can they find that without finding the true and unified Church?
One knows by God's Word. Romans 10:17.John 20:30-31.1st Peter 1:23. 2sd Timothy 3:16-17. People please take the time to read these verses yourselves. For this is how we know. We don't need any man to interpret it's meaning for us. 2sd Peter 1:20-21. When a person is saved the Holy Spirit will teach them from His Word. John 14:26. 1st John 2:27. Matthew 4:4. This is all the authority one needs. Acts 17:10-12.
Hmmm. What I find interesting is that what most people don't realize is that there are more churches that have similar beliefs and structures to the Catholic church. For example Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Seventh Day Adventists, The Church of England, Greek Orthodox Church, are just a few that can be named that follow the beliefs and practices of the Catholic Church. Some more loosely then others. The majority of protestant religions are so much alike they don't even realize. Lutherans might as well be Catholic. Its only the small majority of of evangelicals religions like Baptists, and Pentecostals, along with Mormons, and Jehovah Witnesses that have vastly different views on God and theology. And even within them there are major different beliefs in there religions. Its only a few sects of Christianity that are divided. Which brings the question whose really lost?
The majority who are almost similar in belief?
Or the minority who have a vastly different interpenetration of what they believe in?
Orthodox is not protestant. Orthodox is an entirely third branch of Christianity and primarily exist in Eastern Europe. Orthodox is the furthest from Protestantism because:
1) Centralized under regional "Popes" called Patriarchs.
2) Different church traditions
3) Completely different Saints
4) Orthodox prayer is sung in Old Slavic or Greek
You CLEARLY know nothing about Christianity. Catholicism is NOT the majority and Protestantism is NOT a minor sect. There are 1.2 billion Catholics and 1 billion Protestants, you guys are almost completely tied when it comes to population. Orthodox Christianity is older than Catholicism, and Russian Orthodox Church is one of the most powerful churches in the world. The Pope is weak and Europeans are quickly joining the Patriarchs.
@@PrimetimeXWhen you say "you guys" who are you referencing? I am not neither Catholic or Christian. I clearly know a whole of Christianity despite you just saying I don't know anything about Christianity. You saying I don't know anything doesn't prove or disprove anything. What I did say was the minority of some denominations such as Mormons and Jehovah Witness have very different beliefs from "mainstream" Christianity. Even within those denominations they disagree a lot amongst each other.
Why do you assume I'm Catholic? I have nothing to do with The Pope. Now come up with a better rebuttal. I encourage it. People need to have more conversation like this. Despite what people choose to believe or assume.
I grew up in the Lutheran church. A long time ago I said Lutherans are just Catholics without all the guilt.
@@PrimetimeX well you missed what I was saying. This is why division exist. Because people like you go straight for the differences instead of what we have alike.
Here the voice of God? I am amazed by the poor and erroneous definition of the meaning and role of authority In Catholicism, right at the beginning of the interview. the authority of the pope refers first of all to all secardotes of any order within the Catholic church. So they all announce the same message. The problem with the Protestant church is that any person who is "infactuated" by the idea of standing on the podium and preaching to others can do so without having to account to anyone what kind of message he spreads around and what kind of conversion he calls people in need. What you think from which church were born pastors such as Kenneth Copeland, Joeal Osteen, Doni Reagan etc, who are undoubtedly great manipulators of the masses and disputants of poor people. I think it would have been right to at least study and prepare better when you want to touch on these very complex issues.
so what if I believe no man has authority over the Bible whatsoever. not the pope and not any man behind the pulpit. I think the only way a man can know the truth about God is by his own study of scripture and relationship (prayer and praise) of God
I honestly think it goes for a majority of protestants that we don't believe the guy shouting at us on Sunday is an authority figure
@@PhantomPhaze Pastors don't have any authority either. The Question Protestants Can't Answer: Where did the Bible come from? The Canon of the Bible. God bless you.
"Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith alone" James 2:24
@Asaph Vapor You must be an Israelite.
@Asaph Vapor sir, you need both. Catholics aren't saying works alone get you saved. Protestants are the ones who almost removed James from the bible and got rid of 7 books in the OT because they were in support of catholic theology
@Asaph Vapor james 2:17 faith without works is dead. Its pretty clear. Sola scriptura is false.
@Asaph Vapor unless of course NOW it doesn't count because you don't like the teachings. Protestanism is heresy. Only catholicism and orthodoxy is correct
@Asaph Vapor bros and sisters was a common thing to call cousims and church friends.
We don't worship statues.
The bible says we can confess and talk about our sins to eachother.
Mary may have been sinless but she was LIVING in the story and didn't know the outcome. She wanted to be on the safe side.
Just like how you ask someone "can you pray for me", thats all the saints do. Just give prayers to jesus, its extra help
I'm a catholic and I've been wondering this almost all my life. Both catholic and protestant are both believe in Jesus. We're both followers of Christ. So why are we different? I mean we have same faith. To Jesus. So why are we a two different religion now? What happened? From what I know it was becouse of our history. Some kind of protest due to the corrupt old church. But I never actually know the full story of this. To anyone reading this please tell me.
@br1anm150k
WHO ARE THE CHRISTIANS THAT HAVE EXISTED FOR 2000 YEARS. THE CATHOLICS. THE PROTESTANT CHURCH OF MARTIN LUTHER HAS EXISTED FOR AROUND 500 YEARS. GOD BLESS YOU.
My family was once Catholic and no longer is unfortunately there’s just too much in the Catholic faith that is outside of the word of God that goes against what the old testament taught and what the New Testament teaches as mentioned in the video things such as purgatory and allegiance to a pope. Salvation is a gift of grace if you receive Christ you receive salvation good works or not done to be saved, good works come as a result of being saved.
AndTechie amen brother
@@mercibeaucoup2639 Ummm, nope! Yes, but the catholic (original definition-universal) church has existed longer than the Roman Catholic church (local Roman church) and has not deviated from the original tradition (scripture).
Arin, I suggest you read what the Catholic Church wrote about us Protestants (who were MEMBERS of the Catholic Church) 500 years ago. Look up the Council of Trent and the "anathemas" (they condemned the Reformers as heretics, excommunicated them, and burned the Reformers at the stake)
Some clarity is required here. The Scripture itself says The Church is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth ( 1 Tim 3:15). Jesus Christ left us a Holy Church not a Holy Book. Scripture says that the Church has the authority from Christ Himself to open and shut, ,loose and Bind, ( Mt 16:19, MT 18:18, Jn 20:23 cf Is 22:22). The Bible has NEVER baptised anyone into the life of Jesus Christ while the Holy Church ,following the charge of the resurrected and glorified Lord Jesus Christ has baptized billions of souls into Christ.(cf Mt 28:19-20)
The speaker makes an fallacious claim that Catholics add to the merit of Christ through good works. Jesus Christ commanded us to REPENT and receive the Holy Spirit. Repenting requires action on our part. It is part of the Covenant. Our Lord tells us in Matthew 25 that we are to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the prisoners. In parable of the Good Samaritan Jesus Christ teaches us to show mercy. Christ COMMANDS us to love our neighbors. The reward for doing these Christ centered , will of the Father good works that we know is pleasing to God is that our life in Christ is made stronger through the loving grace received in obedience to His Holy Word. The New Covenant requires us to make way for the Kingdom of God and we do this through obedience to Christ.That is the deal so get off the couch, quit babbling empty words and get to work!
The speaker misunderstands and misrepresents the Catholic belief in purgatory. One has to understand Judaism's development of the ideas of grave,sheol, & abaddon. When Moses died where did his soul go? He was not damned to hell because he served God. He did not go to heaven because it would have made Jesus Christ's death on the cross unnecessary. Catholics believe there is place that is neither heaven nor hell and Jesus Christ was there for 3 days as His body lay in the tomb. Scripture tells us " and it was in his spirit that he went and preached to the spirits who lay in prison" ( 1 Peter 3:19) and 1 Cor 3:11-15 tells that each man's workmanship will be tested by fire though "he himself will be saved" and nothing unclean shall enter. ( Rev 21:27)
Catholics have been taught for 2000 years that this prison and fiery cleansing is purgatory and it a beautiful example of God's mercy for His children. Protestants for many reasons do not agree but they can not honestly say that the teaching is not Scripture based.
The Communion of Saints is is a doctrine shared by many ,but not all Protestant faiths with the Catholic and Orthodox. Those who do not share the belief have for the most part a belief that the word pray is exclusively an act of worship. Yet we see Shakespeare write in Hamlet "I pray thee, do not mock me, fellow-student " ( Hamlet act 1 scene 2) and this is definitely not worship.
Scripture tells us in Ephesians 4:4-5 "There is *ONE BODY* , and *ONE SPIRIT* , even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; *ONE LORD* , *ONE FAITH* , *ONE BAPTISM* There is ONE BODY , ONE CHURCH not a loose confederation of thousands of sects with somewhat similar views.
Nice explanation bro.
tim spangler.... To Catholics Jesus Christ is the Sovereign Authority. He has appointed His Holy Church to act in His name by giving them the Keys to the Kingdom of God thus the Holy Church is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth. None of Christs Apostles except John ever read the Bible that you have claimed holds 'authority'. Yet Scripture tells us in the Acts of the Apostles and the pastoral letters that the Apostles clearly had 'authority'.
An analogy would be the Constitution of the United States and the Supreme Court. People do not petition the Constitution for remedy they petition the Court. Another would be the criminal laws and the Police. When someone is being robbed they do not appeal to the statute that forbids robbery they call the Police who , by law, have the authority to enforce the Law.
A Biblical example is of course the Torah and Moses. Moses sat in the authoritative judgement seat and passed judgement. Jethro asks Moses why he sat there and Moses said " They come to me, answered Moses, to find out what God’s decision is." ( Exodus 18) Moses had authority! Like wise now the Holy Church has that authority to loose and bind.
Tim does your sect have a pastor? Does he/she/ ze/zur/ have any authority ? DOES HE-SHE WANT TO CONTROL?
None of this is correct about Catholicism. I would much rather see this question answered in a discussion between theologians from Protestantism and Catholicism. I think that would be a much more helpful to most lay people like myself.
Where can one find such discussion with them both?
Remember Martin Luther was a Catholic and wanted reforms but he was a Christian before and after the Reformation.
A biased delivery of your unscholarly and poorly researched opinions of the true teaching. Kind Sir, do know that you're adding to the misconceptions of the true faith. Sincerely from one of your unknowing and trusting members, I was baptized in the true faith, but wholeheartedly followed your teachings well into adulthood. It was when I delved into study, painfully letting go my pride, and tried to be as humble as I can, when I found my way to the inexhaustible love and wisdom of our roots...
Do not harden your hearts
Thank you for this video. I'm looking at converting to Catholicism and it's informative to hear both sides. You've given me something to think about :)
@jimboslice613 everything is rotten to it's core.
@@biocybernaught3512 I chose Catholicism because it's the most persecuted of all Christian churches. That and the Eucharist.
@@teresaadamik67 you're suggesting I trust a random, anonymous TH-cam comment over an established, thousands year old institution? The audacity the premise of your comment is based on is, by itself, enough to push one towards the Church. I don't know you to then verify you've don anything.
@@biocybernaught3512 go to the source Humans corrupt all they touch. Can you taste it in the air? Can you taste it in the water? XD but for real go to the source that is where your journey of Faith starts!
I spent 6 hellish years in a Catholic school. Don't bother converting. In fact why convert to "anything" at all. Just be yourself instead of a robot for religion
My heart really does go out to Catholics, that their eyes be opened and they leave that system (as well as others caught up in false systems -- there are plenty of false Protestant churches). I do believe there are many Catholics that are saved, but I think the Catholic system is wretched to the core. My in-laws are Catholic and I love them like my immediate family, but I hate their religious system.
It is nearly impossible to evangelize to a Catholic - they lean on their church traditions that basically say "don't believe anyone else but us". They won't stick to sola Scriptura, but they combine Scripture with frankly some outright un-Scriptural Catholic tradition...and when there is a conflict? Well, the tradition of the "one true church" of course always trumps Scripture. This both saddens me and makes me extremely angry at the deception involved.
When I first hear a rosary prayed (it was a Catholic funeral of a relative of mine), I had to exit the sanctuary with a quickness- hearing people pray to saints and Mary makes my skin crawl. Man that stuff is wicked.
Your church didn’t exist for 1500 years of Christian history, and it was founded by a man. Did christians just have a false gospel for 1500 years until the Protestant reformation occurred?
Jesus christ was the son of man. He founded the church, the church is wherever love for him is. It's not that there was a false gospel for 1500 year,s you are missing the point. It is that a group of believers got tired of the church trying to warp and stretch things in whatever manner suits them, they became more like a government of a country than a church. Hubris is the crime of the catholic church, how many little boys must be abused and it be covered up?, this is just one example of the deep corruption the catholics have allowed in recent memory, are you trying to say the catholic church existed 1500 years ago or were they just following a false gospel until the catholic church became a thing. ahhhh before rome they cry!!!@@christsavesreadromans1096
Sola Scriptura is unbiblical.
@@johnsteila6049what do you mean by that?
@@Mjwjr1992 What don’t you understand?
Old school Martin Luther had a Marian theology and did actual include saints in prayers. Its ok if you hate the Catholics your free to hate but your lies are ignorant.
Why is it that anyone who disagrees with Catholic doctrine is somehow hating people ? It is not Ok to hate anyone. Martin Luther also had some interesting views that were not consistent with scripture.
@@bobloblawb2593 Who told you this.
@@bobloblawb2593 Can you tell me what interesting views did he haVe?
@@renefernandez2066 history
@@renefernandez2066 Marian theology, sin boldly so grace will abound, Mary taking a vow of celibacy, and his false authority to change wording or remove books even though some of those books are good for historical content but not doctrine as St. Jerome also removed those books for that reason.
Very good teaching...thank you!!
How are we supposed to come to an agreement if there is no arbiter to decide who is right and who is wrong? As in who can we go to for the final say on matters of squabbling?
joseph jackson The Bible is really all we have to go back to, since it is the only agreed upon (at least mostly) thing that both sides are willing to go to for evidence. The difference in understandings comes from a different interpretation. The way I understand the problem (though note that I have some bias) is that Catholics make decisions with appropriate context and passed down interpretation while Protestants interpret the Bible as they please.(hence the large number of Protestant churches)
@Asaph Vapor Denominations and divisions in belief and doctrine are clearly condemned in Scripture. Protestantism is denominationalism and division in practice, very anti-Scriptural. YOU should read the Bible some time and face the reality of the lies you have been brainwashed into believing.
@Asaph Vapor John 17:22-23, John 10:16, Acts 4:32, 2 Peter 2:1-2, Romans 16:17, 1 Cor. 3:3...
I could go on and on. Protestantism is NOT the unity for which Christ vehemently prayed. You can't have unity when dozens upon dozens of man-made religions are incapable of coming to an agreement on the truth of Christ. If it were to happen, there wouldn't be any denmonations - no Baptists, no Lutherans, no Methodists, no Pentecostals, no non-denominationals. The reason those denominations exist is because Satan created the divisions that are known as Protestant "Christianity". Protestantism is disunity, confusion and relativism. Denominations and all that they entail (particularly, doctrinal contradiction or any sort of theological relativism) are clearly ruled out by Scripture.
I'll leave you with a quote from a Protestant theologian H. Richard Niebuhr:
"Denominationalism thus represents the moral failure of Christianity. And unless the ethics of brotherhood can gain the victory over this divisiveness within the body of Christ it is useless to expect it to be victorious in the world. But before the church can hope to overcome its fatal division it must learn to recognize and to acknowledge the secular character of denominationalism."
Wow this guy really doesn't understand Catholicism. I was expecting something a little more interesting.
One need not ask anyone to pray for them! One can pray for himself!! Jesus gave his life that this may be so!! Scripture says( Jesus said call no man father!). When you pray,say,,our father( one father,that is God ) which art in heaven,hallowed,be thy name,,not the popes name!! Father God,,forgive us our debts,as we forgive our debtors,etc,,,,,,
One things that protestants and catholic's can agree on is that the New Testament consists of 27 books, no more , no less, out of some 300+ early Christian writings. The NT canon itself was first decided as we have it today, by late 4th century Catholic Bishops. And one difference ... ALL those Bishops brought this canon into Church, reading it at Mass which they presided. That one believes that the Churc universally error'd on the Mass... but somehow these same Bishops got the NT canon right without error is in a word ... inconsistent.
War Peace it seems the more asaph says wrong about Catholicism the further he drives himself to bearing a false witness...
On Authority at the beginning of this video .33 seconds. What happened that this order was done? (Ausculta fili) Do you think we Catholics are ignorant? Please.
Jw's, mormons, and Catholics all have 1 thing in common. They preach that you have to earn your way into heaven. The bible says grace alone, not grace + works. The bible also say to repent and pray to God for forgiveness, it does not say confess to a priest, say 7 hail marys and 6 our fathers, do a hand sign, and pay indulgences to the church if you want to get into heaven. Any group claiming to be Christian, but says you need extra-biblical sources in order to understand the "true meaning" is a false doctrine.
So poor understanding of Catholicism
Not like Catholics are any better at explaining Protestants.
@@SeanWinters Protestants are stil fixated on Catholicism, Catholics are not so interested. I suspect that deep inside they feel that are in error, so have to constantly talk themselves to stay Protestants.
notice the change in tone when he speaks. Downbeat when he describes Catholic teaching. Full of doubt. For Protestant teaching he is upbeat and far more animated. LOL. its kind of funny.
Because the pope is gay and Peter was not the first so called pope.
@@wojo9732 you will be happy to learn I reported your hate speech
when I report people I always do them the courtesy of telling them
Jesus never taught about Bishops and Popes. Jesus said to go directly to God, not through a man for forgiveness. Bible says we are not to baptize infants.
Where?
@@79explorere2 The Gospels, everywhere he taught the disciples how to pray.
Kat Bos Jesus made Peter the head the Rock read the Early Church Fathers, Peter.was the head in Rome and they the Apostles ordained bishops and priests what do you think Jesus was doing at the last supper when he washed their feet he was laying hands on them to ordain them like Moses did with Aaron
Jesus taught orally to his disciples and gave them the "keys of the kingdom of Heaven, and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven, and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven" - well they normally interpret the bible literally and I would not know how the can get this misunderstood - to suit them - Jesus will not leave and just have everybody ponder about their salvation - logic and reason will dictate that you need to leave somebody in charge to spread your message and teachings or it will just die out or get your teachings corrupted, by letting everyone preach whatever they want - such a simple argument - that people deny
jotun man well said and that’s what we have today everyone interpreting scripture for that persons benefit and chaos on the Protestant side and we have our own problems with our Holy Catholic Church that if you read Our Lady of Akita and Our Lady of good success it will be cleared up towards the end of this century but we need to fight back as Jesus and Our Lady said it’s a cleansing of our church...
1. Authority, Catholics believe Jesus is the head of the church. The church is His bride, Priests share in His(Christ's) Priesthood. The only undebatable statement under Pope authority that will never be changed is Mary being the virgin mother of God, Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God.
2. Salvation, Jesus gave His church sacraments to be experienced as expressions of Gods love on earth. Salvation is believed to be attained by accepting Jesus as your God and savior along with feeling true remorse of sin and asking of God's forgiveness and receiving God's forgiveness. Catholics do not believe that life without sacraments bares defaulted damnation.
3.Purgatory, God is like a beautiful unfathomable powerful energy. Like the sun, we cant get very close to the sun without burning up, its too much for us to handle. Purgatory is not a place, but rather a state of cleansing. Preparation. It prepares us to handle the indescribable awesomeness of God's presence.Purgatory, the midway between God's full presense (an immense energy, heat, light) and Hell( a state and place away from God, without energy, heat, or light. Argo cold and dark). Purgatory is a grace of God. Just as is His forgiveness.
4. Prayer to the Saints. I like this one, very common and simply misunderstood. We dont pray to saints, we believe Saints are with God and that they can hear our prayers. We do not pray TO them, we ask them to pray FOR us, to God. Because we believe the church is one, one people, in heaven and on earth. We believe our church in heaven with God includes Angles and Saints who are capable of praying for us, this is important because as one people, one family, we are strong and our faith in Christ makes us so. Our prayers all the more so. We also pray for each other, and we pray for members of our family, our church, in the state of purgatory. That they are graced by God's full presence.
5. One church. We are one church, one people, one family, and we welcome all. Its not just about an individual's faith journey with Christ, its about community, communion. We are together, we need each other. We are Christ's Hands and Feet on earth when we act in love the way He taught us to, we share this love with each other. " and so protestants hold that our hope does not reside in any man, in any organization, in any church" and this contradicts his entire faith as a Christian. His hope resides in one man, Jesus, in one organization, the works of God through His people, and in one church. The church was Christ's work, "Tear down this Temple, and in three days I will build it again." His church was never a building. It was a people. Is a people, a family, to which all people are called to share.
If you've read this far know that its for a reason. Your hope and faith is what brought you here. I ask one thing, please pray for all those struggling with discerning faith. That God will see their effort and help them find truth in His light. Pray for those with misguided beliefs that they allow God into their hearts.
Thats all i can offer on this, God bless
Bruningphonix Chris a
This comment section proves that having faith doesn't make you a better person.
sleepysloth I agree. Acting on good beliefs makes someone good, not just associating with a religion.
I live in South Carolina where there is are around 200 different Protestants Churches. I have been to them. They were like an Ozzy Osborne concert. Lasers smoke machines electric guitars and a 80 piece drum kit. They all have Bibles and the handle them like a child with a comic book. The pastors are entertainers and the ALWAYS take the talking points of the mainstream media and connect them to the END TIMES, It is quite a shock to this Polish Catholic. There is no way to debate these people. They believe in faith alone and Bible alone, They refuse to accept that the New Testament is actually Catholic. That the Catholic Bishops had no part in determining what books were divinely inspired. They refuse to accept the teachings of the Church Fathers, Their doctrines are always changing. They believe when you read the Bible the Holy Spirit enters into you and will reveal the truth as you read. So a verse in the Bible can have different meanings to different people and truth changes over time. It is really insane to watch and listen to these people. They dance with arm in the air and stare at the ceiling and get worked up into a hysterical state. I would advise every Catholic to go to one of these churches. It will make you very grateful to be Catholic
Very interesting. I was just reading a blog on how Protestantism evolved post-WWII to become Atheistic in order to conform to the emerging Liberal global order. Today they are known as Progressives. Does that sound like the Protestantism you know?
I am a Protestant Baptist and it is true that the majority refuse to debate about the Church Fathers, the majority are not open minded and it is sad. I am actually researching for the truth.
@@Shindler39 I am pretty sure that in the near future anyone who believes in Christ will have to unite and put petty theological differences aside. The final battle has begun. We all can sense it. i know you can feel it too. Something is very wrong in the world and it is evil Not since the first century have the people not been allowed to worship Christ on Easter Sunday. The Catholic Church has an Apostate Pope who is destroying the RCC. They have never been in such a mess. They were in better shape during the Protestant Reformation than they are today. I will pray for you and the Holy Spirit will guide you to the truth. I know what you are feeling.
@@peaveawwii1 That is really appreciated. The Counter- Reformation when Pope Pius V abolished the sale of indulgences in 1567 was a great step forward indeed. This is my dream that all Christian should be united but I think we will have to wait until we are in Heaven because Christian are human and have pride and refuse to admit error.
@@Shindler39 We are on the same page. I do not think that will happen until we are in heaven either. I hope to see you there. Until then I am praying more and more and reaching out to people because I think big changes are coming. We are living in unprecedented times. Just a few months ago things were fine. Now I cannot leave my home and feel like I am in North Korea.
Jesus never wrote a single word in the Bible. What He did instead is build the Catholic Church. 1 Timothy 3:15, NIV: "If I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth."
@A A You misunderstand what the Church is. The New Testament clearly paints a picture of the Church as an organized visible body, with a pope (Peter), bishops (the apostles and their successors), priests ("elders" they are called in some translations), deacons, and the Mass (the "breaking of the bread").
I grew up in the Methodist denomination and zi remember ministers preach that the true Church of Christ is an invisible bond of all believers. I remember thinking then, even as a child,.no, the Church of the New Testament is not that, the Church of the New Testament is an organized visible body.
The Church does not teach that mere membership in the Church guarantees salvation.
@A A
Sadly, you don't know what you are talking about.
@@jzak5723 I disagree. He seems well spoken and cited scriptural references.
@@jeffsnider7842
I was speaking specifically about his comments about the CC.
On January 3rd, 1521 AD Pope Leo X issued the papal bull “Decet Romanum pontificem.” This decree excommunicated Martin Luther from the Catholic Church. Subsequently, Luther never repented or returned to holy Communion before his death. Sadly, Luther perished outside of the grace of the Eucharist. Those who are alive today still have a choice to repeat the errors Luther made or to consider the needs of their souls. Ave Maria.
Already wrong. Catholics do not believe you have to give all devotions to the Pope to be saved. Here’s the truth: the pope is to keep order in the church and is most reverend but is not Christ himself. And Purgatory is mentioned in the Bible and Christ says it exists. I really see that Protestantism is just ignorance of scriptures. I have no problem with Protestants personally because we share one main belief that Christ is our redeemer and died for our sins. I never hear Catholics speak ill of the Protestant church but always Protestants speaking badly of the Catholic Church. And Catholics receive a lot of hate more than the Protestants there’s no denial of that. But as Christ said “because of me they will hate you”
totalitarian dictator have you listened to the vortex? He says you're saved through dedicating yourselves to the pope and speaks ill of protestants
The *Church Fathers* from 33 to 300 AD all demonstrated that their beliefs and practices -- learned directly from the apostles -- were completely similar to today's Catholic beliefs and practices. They CLEARLY mention the importance/existence of the real presence in the Eucharist, infant baptism, apostolic succession, primacy of a bishop, etc... yet so many protestants -- who prefer to blindly follow their pastors instead of deepening their theological/historical knowledge -- still think the Church "invented" these traditions long after...
This ignorance is madness, and very saddening: So many so-called Christians, denying God's gifts to his Church, denying his teachings because they "sound" too harsh, displaying their weak faith regarding his promise that the Church would not fall, dividing themselves constantly while claiming that they can interpret scripture under Holy Spirit guidance...
This is what protestantism is: Ironical.
They see false teachers everywhere except where they REALLY are: in their own parishes.
May God wake them up, so they may serve him with the fullness of the truth.
Verum you responded to me but I can't find your response? Where did you post it?
Happens sometime, it's youtube and their infallible techs.
You should now see it (when a new post comes in, the previous post becomes visible)
It's on Kadie's comment though...
Verum unfortunately, it is still not showing up. Perhaps you can copy and paste it here?
Verum, can you please give me scriptures from the bible where it is written, we should pray to dead saints, worshiping Idols of saints, praying rosary prayers and having skulls of dead people in church buildings or a title called pope in the bible? I would really be pleaseed.
+Jimmy James Kitunzi
*ABOUT YOUR ACCUSATIONS:*
They are very basic, common, and horribly misinformed. (worship of idols?? dead saints??)
As shown a few lines up: The Church has the authority, therefore it was her role to develop doctrines based on her interpretation of Scripture, as well as the legacy and writings of the Early Church. By asking for verses, you are asking me to condense centuries of theological researches. I can at least point you to some "clues", but you should really think about doing your own research, as there is too much to cover. (ps: real research doesn't involve protestant propaganda videos on youtube.)
*First off,* we never worship saints, Mary, or relics: We venerate (look up the definition). Are you called an Idol worshipper for having a poster of your favorite team player, next to a ball he used and signed? *NO,* therefore why even bring this up? I know your fellow protestants can sound very dramatic about everything Catholics do, especially since most protestants _hate_ Catholics... but these accusations became more and more ridiculous and ill-founded over the past centuries.
*Second,* we pray with LIVING saints for intercession: You mistakingly think that they are dead, and cannot hear us thanks to God. (lack of faith in what God can do perhaps?) Have you not read *Matthew 22: 32:* _‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”_ (Also read the context; it won't affect the conclusion: Jesus literally told them that these patriarchs were alive. This is further confirmed when Moses and Elijah are seen alive next to Jesus at the Transfiguration and converse with him.) Moreover, when you ask someone to pray for you, does he intercedes for you TO God instead of Jesus? No: He intercedes for you TO Jesus, who then brings it to God. The same applies to any Saints, including Mary. (There is no "going over Jesus's head" in the Catholic Church, despite any protestant lies you may have heard.)
*Third,* about relics and their proprieties, here are a few biblical basis:
(keeping them around is just an act of faith in God, and for Historical value. We do not "pray" to them)
(OT) *2 Kings 13: 20-21:* _"Elisha died and was buried. Now Moabite raiders used to enter the country every spring. Once while some Israelites were burying a man, suddenly they saw a band of raiders; so they threw the man’s body into Elisha’s tomb. When the body touched Elisha’s bones, the man came to life and stood up on his feet."_
(NT) *Acts 19: 11-12:* _"God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them."_
Sorry for the long text, but as we both know; you can't just read a verse without its context, just like you can't turn away an accusation without properly explaining why it is false. I hope this shed some lights on your own beliefs as well.
God bless
It would have been lovely if this gentleman accurately portrayed Catholic doctrine. I encourage all viewers to look for themselves at what the Church actually teaches.
What did he get wrong? Sounded straight forward to me and in agreement with many other sources I have read in the past.
Tell us what he got wrong
Literally everything.
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No. He got nothing wrong. At the end of the day the Catholic idea is that the Pope was given divine authority through Peters church. But Peter was not in Rome to set up that church. The church of Peter was oppressed by the Romans until one converted. And wouldn't you know it, when that happened, the church JUST SO HAPPENED to support giving power to the Romans. They changed the Sabbath to Sunday (something the Catholic Church admits), they violently murdered the Iconiphiles who were followers OF THEIR OWN CHURCH, and in Modern times the Catholic Church has become THE child slave ring. It's not some "oh it's just a few". There's tons. How do we know? Simple. Because so many get caught, and when they DO get caught, the higher ups in the church itself simply move them away like nothing happened!!! It's not some small time thing. There a deep rooted child abuse ring IN YOUR CHURCH with the Pope himself having been accused of it! Now sure, it happens in every religion, and not just religion but in boy/girl scouts, teachers, etc. But in all of those fields and other churches they aren't allowed to simply get away with it (well maybe teachers these days).
Anywho I'm getting off track here. I don't hate the Catholics. I just hate
1. That they allow the pet files to stay in their church.
2. The CONSTANT bashing of protestants
and
3. The fact that they have allowed the new pope to teeter totter on the borderline of straight up supporting LGBT nonesene, leaving Cardinals and priests to die in third world countries, allowing China to LITERALLY rewrite the Bible, saying NOTHING about the violent Muslims, and doing NOTHING to stop the murder of Christians in multiple nations. Protestants speak out on it. Heck even the Orthodox do it. Why can't Catholics??
@@jamesnotsmith1465 : Everything.
In the RC system isn't all their works really instigated by grace and the operation of the Holy Spirit in the heart and also wasn't it stated that purgatory is really the beautific vision of Christ and not burning for hundreds and thousands maybe even millions of years. So ultimately, there is differences of time of regeneration and differing tradition. So, there really is very little difference between the two systems; once one is functioning from an Augustinian framework, I'm not to sure if there are wider differences marked in comparison to Thomism or Molinism. It really is the way you look at it, whether god's work or man's, you have to look underneath and see god's grace and Holy Spirit at work in the conversion of sinners in either position.
Salvation, regarding faith alone. Eph 2:8 says, 'For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from you; it is the gift of God.' Where is the word alone after the word faith?
Where do you find the" Bible" that says the word alone after the word faith?
Eph 2:8 says, 'For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from you; it is the gift of God.'
Just because someone added a word in the 1500's does not mean that any bible has that as an added word.
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from you; it is the gift of God.'
Do you see anything added to this verse ?
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and works , faith and righteousness, faith and holiness, faith and good morals, faith and good attendance to the mass?? No it says you are saved by Grace.
and this is not from you; it is the gift of God.' So what does the Eph 2:9 tell you? NOT by works. What does Paul point out in Eph 2: ? Paul says it twice to get your attention BY GRACE YOU ARE SAVED. So salvation is by Grace . There is nothing added to that statement except to say NOT by works.
I have not found a bible anywhere that says by faith alone in reference to Eph 2:
Jesus Christ founded my Church and appointed St Peter as the vicar of Christ. Pastors founded 38000 churches. All of whom have their own doctrine.
Asaph Vapor you literally copied and pasted this response from another comment...
Why cant we all just be together? We're Christians even if we are different, we all have faith in him.
Why the branching off n always getting split up?
@John Steel You Catholics really messed up that one.
Beautiful ending. Bless you all.
Do they still have to drink the blood and eat the flesh to be saved because Luke from Union I’m asking
Well, those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation(Catechism). So, if by no fault of their own they do not recieve the body and blood of Christ in the Eucharist out of ignorance or inability, then yeah.
Then why don't you believe Jesus, our God, when he tells you "this is my Body"? Why don't you believe the Word of God when it tells you: "not by faith alone are you justified"--again, to quote James--"you IGNORAMUS."
As to ignoramus?
Eph 4:29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. 32 Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.
Jesus is the bread of life , He is what we must be fed from, however even the early church fathers did not believe the wine and bread were literally turning into flesh of our Lord. It is symbolic and if you ever get the chance to have the Lord's supper as the Jewish believers perform it, you would see the difference. All those that abandoned Jesus after He said these words did so because of unbelief that He was messiah.
John 6:35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.
So was Jesus speaking of the physical body or the spiritual body? Obviously we enjoy food and we do get hungry after so many hours but the bread of life is spiritual and Jesus has an abundance of spiritual food for us.
Not by faith alone for your justification?
James 1:1 who is James addressing?
not by faith alone are you justified
My justification comes from the Lord it has nothing to do with me except my action of faith in God's word.
The teaching of justification by faith is what separates biblical Christianity from all other belief systems. In every religion, man is working his way to God. Only in true, biblical Christianity is man saved as a result of grace through faith. Only when we get back to the Bible do we see that justification is by faith, apart from works.
The word justified means “pronounced or treated as righteous.” For a Christian, justification is the act of God not only forgiving the believer’s sins but imputing to him the righteousness of Christ. The Bible states in several places that justification only comes through faith (e.g., Romans 5:1; Galatians 3:24). Justification is not earned through our own works; rather, we are covered by the righteousness of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8; Titus 3:5). The Christian, being declared righteous, is thus freed from the guilt of sin.
Justification is a completed work of God, and it is instantaneous, as opposed to sanctification, which is an ongoing process of growth by which we become more Christlike . 1 Corinthians 1:18; 1 Thessalonians 5:23). Sanctification occurs after justification.
So faith without works shows us that there has not been a change in ones life. James is addressing the Jewish believers who had a steadfast belief in God but did not accept Jesus as their messiah. John 6:28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
This fellow has no idea what he is talking about.
1) Authority is the Christ Himself THROUGH His Church and the Pope (who is the successor of Saint Peter who "received the keys of the Realm of Heaven"). Christ is primary for us Catholics as well.
2) Salvation doesn't come PRIMARILY from sacraments. I don't know who told you that was primary. Faith, acting as the Lord said and achieving his Sacraments (all of them are taught in the Scriptures) is what gives us the Grace of Our Lord. WHY DID JESUS TEACH US HOW TO ACT GOOD IF THIS ISN'T TO SHOW US HOW TO BE SAVED ?
I'll stop there but revise your theology
Well..the Man sure was sounding a little pro-Protestant wasn't he? I'd decided long ago as a boy, not to quip or criticize the differences of all Religions, but to instead appreciate and admire Folks who have chosen a Faith and attempt to live the rest of their Lives by that Religion's Code of beliefs (and hopefully better themselves thru the eyes of their *God* ). This "willingness" alone greatly helps to keep you from going thru Life as "a plant, a doggy, a *Windows* *95* Robot, basically a mentally ceased numb Human only waking daily to check their *GMail* and pay the rent. But...I'm much older now, and learned Wars. Torture, and Merciless Death ( right along with peace & prosperity) have fallen upon Folks who have chosen "the wrong thing to believe in" thru the eyes of other religious beholders. For thousands of years and still going on right now. My question today is, I'm wondering if the *Baptist* Religion (which I've known since my early days on an Oklahoma Farm) leans more towards the *Protestant* Beliefs than it does towards the *Catholic* Beliefs? This Religious Lecturer Dude today makes me feel it does.
@@designertjp-utube *snore* i would rather get up and check my gmail than be mentally enslaved by ridiculous scriptures that makes absolutely no sense in today's world.
@Asaph Vapor This response shows an extreme ignorance of church history
By reading/interpreting the New Testament, you are accepting the authority of the authority of the Catholic Church. (Because the Catholic Church is the one who put them together)
"Can you Catholics tell me even ONE thing I must believe which is NOT in the Bible?" Just to start: 1) where in the Bible says that the Bible alone is the only source of what we christians must believe? 2) what books must be included in the Bible and why? 3) in the Church, who is supposed to decide the true interpretation of the Bible? 4) The holy baptism is just for adults or for kids and babies either? 5) Is there a sacrament of holy marriage instituted by Christ?
One sided view
i am just here because of a project-
thanks for the explanation; now i understand history better
Excellent synopsis