Watt's inside the BIG gasifier
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ย. 2021
- Howdee, my fellow woodgas bug venom victims.
Let's have us a look inside the BIIIIGGGGG gasifier, to see watt we might learn from it.
Just recently, I had the whole project in pieces, so I could invert the trolley frame, to finish off all of the welds, and add other strengthening elements.
This duly offered me the opportunity to strip the gasifier down, and have a good look inside.
It sure is shiny in there, but not for long, methinks.
Anyway, folks, here's hoping you'll enjoy this little old woodgas fix :) . - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
LOL at the *DOPEY* religiots, antivaxxers, and flatturds who are *TRYING* to dislike this video.
You are pathetic little losers, who will *NEVER* amount to anything in life.
Sucks to be you!
I am fascinated at the video shot @ 6:17 in as I have never been able to see this perspective on any of the designs presented by anyone ,' ever...
A BIG THANK YOU !
@@sojournsojourntraveler1203
You are welcome.
I figured that a lot of folks wood love to see watt is inside this shiny giant :) .
That is some beautiful tree ghost eating art. Looking forward to seeing it run some day.
Thanks kindly.
This shiny beast is quite the work of art, and I look forward to "setting it ablaze", one of these days.
Steve I'm looking forward to seeing this beast run. I think you will have to make fuel with one of those wood chunkers made from a rear of an old truck. It should accept some big chunks. I'm getting ready to run my gasifier soon. I almost ran it today but I have some wiring I want to get done first. The cooler weather is upon me here in northeast PA, and I'm looking forward to staying warm around the gasifier. I have some great progress to share. Thanks for the tour of that beautiful gasifier. Joe
Howdee Joe,
Just like you, I really do want to see this beast come to life, and merrily fling watts in every direction :) .
You are surely right when you suggest the need to build a BIG chunker for this behemoth.
A suitable engine, along with a selection of other machine parts, powered by my other gasifier, ought to be able to create all the fuel I could possibly need.
Why is it, that all I see is watt/hours, whenever I look at a tree? ;) .
Hi Steve, I love your videos and it’s great to see that progress is being made with this machine. I believe the additional port in the hopper section, aside from the monerator condensate drain, is intended for a thermocouple. Anti seize paste on the nozzles is imperative and important not to crank them up too tight. On later versions of these the nozzles do indeed have flattened sides like you are suggesting to do to yours.
My one was built in 2012 and came with 2 sizes of Choke Plates, one with a smaller centre hole for running a smaller engine and the other with a larger hole and slightly higher lip on the centre ring, intended for a 6 cylinder. The flapper valve on the air intake does give trouble I’ve found, it tends to stick closed after shutdown but as I have only run mine a few times I persevered with it . I look forward to seeing yours in action. Cheers
Howdee Peter,
Thanks kindly for your highly informative comment here.
Watt you say makes a lot of sense, and I will definitely be putting this information to good use, once I have completed this project :) .
Like most of the machines I build, this one will have its own integral toolbox.
Therein, I will have rather a lot of spare anti seize compound, as I have already fallen afoul of stainless steel's love of irrevocable binding, once heated.
Getting those nozzles jammed, wood surely be a nightmare, so I will be doing all I can, in order to ensure their safety and longevity.
Like yours, mine came with 2 choke plates, and I will be experimenting with one of them, to see if I can reduce the overall power output of the gasifier - to a mere 20HP, if possible/practical.
I have rather a lot to learn about this behemoth of a burner, but that is not going to stop me from using it to find the wonderful watts that are hidden in the woods :) .
I, for one, am definitely here for the sermons spoken from the woodgas pulpit by minister Treezel.
If you follow these fine sermons, you wood surely go to wattage heaven, where the volts are always ample :) .
had doubts about "i run gasifyer the past 10 years on my farm for power in winter"
until i saw the chrome steel construction.... i hope everything works out good at your new place and you could settle in
Thanks kindly.
These gasifiers have been a life saver on the farm, and they have saved me a fortune in fuel bills, by running on tree bits, instead of dinosaur squeezings :) .
My new farm is pretty flash, and I am quite busy here, building a shiny new machine shop.
😂 i love how you explain lol cheers mate good luck
you must have a great place to find all the steel your using, I try to use as much freecicled material I can for my projects,it must cost a pretty peny for all that stainless, cheers brother
Yup. There is an industrial area near here, where I can go to buy my supplies.
I have to admit that I have spent many thousands of dollars on steel, of various kinds, so this little hobby of mine can get a 'wee bit' expensive at times.
Just like you, I have done a LOT of free-cycled materials collection, as it saves a fortune, and adds to the satisfaction, when the job is done.
Sometimes, though, it can be better to get shiny new stuff to work with - especially on those bigger projects :) .
Wow your amazing 👏 love it 😀 I hope to get my little one going but nothing like your but lol wish
This machine sure is a beast, and I really do look forward to "setting fire to it" in the near future.
I wood like to see the one that you are building.
Watt kind of engine wood you be feeding with it?
Could you use the exhaust to heat up other workshops in the winter just an idea
Yup. I reckon that wood work quite well.
I have tried working in the shed, when the gasifier was running, and I was able to stay in there for 8 hours, without suffering any ill effects from the exhaust fumes.
Later, I tried it with a petrol engine instead, and I lasted only 25 minutes, before I felt like I was gonna meet my maker!
Naturally though, any radiative heater that we wood make from this - wood be sealed, so the exhaust goes outside, and plagues the neighbours, instead of me :) .
with all of the modifications/gasifiers that you have made, have you standardized a woodchip feed size? thanks
Yup, each gasifier has it's own size range, which I determined by trial and error.
I should be smarter about it, by using a more mathematical approach, but I tend to go by mere intuition instead :) .
@@CNCmachiningisfun can you give a rough idea? I mean , you could not load 6” logs into the hopper. We are not talking about a gasifier 100’ high
@@mervynshute880
Sorry for not being a bit more precise with my first reply, but you'd be looking at chunks that are about 1 to 2 inches all around for this gasser.
For my small gasser, the chunks are between 1/4 inch and 3/4 inch.
It wood be grate if we could use little logs in these gassers, but you need to break the wood up, so as to increase the surface area of it, and avoid cool spots and tar production.
12 volt windshield wiper motor/assembly for the grate? I'm also looking forward to seeing this run.
Yes. I think that wood be a good solution to this :) .
It will be a wee while before I can work on this project again, but it will be worth all the effort, once it comes to life, and makes its first wooden watt :) .
Olá amigo, acompanhando seu projeto, quantos kw vai produzir com este motor?
Seu projeto está em Auto Cad, Me mandaria uma cópia ?
bend the handle..
19:11 hook up for exhaust gas from the engine ?
24:00 as far as i know from different sold gasifiers on youtube , that is indeed a filter housing.
i would expect it before the cooling though..
Thanks for your ideas :) .
Yup. I figure that bending the handle is the simplest thing to do, for now.
Perhaps I will add a link arm, and a wiper motor, so a computer can give it the shakes for me :) .
Someone suggested that the part seen in 19:11 may be for a temperature sensor.
That makes sense, as it pays to make sure that the gasifier is up to temp, before running an engine on it.
You are surely right about 24:00, and I plan to dismantle these parts in the near future, to get a better feel for watt is inside them.
Undoing all those bolts is going to be a pain, so let's hope I don't need to do it too often!
Was this one given to you or one you bought? Looks a little different from the 3rd edition Builder's Bible design. I don't have the other editions to go off of so it could just be a much older model.
Thanks for the video!
This shiny giant was given to me by a friend who purchased it, about 10 years ago.
I imagine that the design has changed, and improved, since then.
Even after all these years, this beast has not seen a flame, and I hope to change that, when I get some spare time :) .
You are fixin' to build one of these beauties?
Hey Steve what a clean build :) Do I remember right, that you adapted the latest model of the victory gasser by Ben Peterson?
I would suggest building the exhaust in a slight angle downwards. So the condensate inside the exhaust would flow out? Or do you plan something else?
Yup, you do remember rightly, as my main gasifier started out as a Ben Peterson build.
In its original condition, it was *impossible* to maintain, and it wrecked the engine in just a few hours.
Watt you see there now is a *HEAVILY* modified version of Ben Peterson's original creation.
My impression is that Ben was learning the trade, when he created that one, as this new one is a shining example of excellence, in comparison :) .
For the muffler, I do have a pair of condensate drains at its ends, but your idea makes more sense, as it will tend to concentrate those delicious juices in a more predictable way.
Consider your idea 'stolen', or at least permanently 'borrowed' :) .
@@CNCmachiningisfun I don't want to blame Ben for his development, but I've had mixed feelings in every video I've seen of his gasser.
Producing a flame doesn't mean it's running an engine properly. Maybe some time but not for long.
I like your adaption ;) it makes more sense not to use welding all the way but implementing some easy accessible connections.
I like it to give you some useful ideas. Consider I'm seeing it as an useful hint. :D Glad to help you.
@@ravelkoff3549
Indeed. I really don't know if this gasifier will run as cleanly as we wood like, and there is only one way to find out, it wood seem.
Since it follows the rules of an Imbert gasifier, I think it will do a good job of turning treezel into watts :) .
Yup, it is really important to have cleanout ports, and removable sections, in a gasifier system.
I have seen some builds that totally miss those parts out, which is guaranteed to kick the builder in the butt, soon after.
Sometimes, those lessons are learned - the hard way!
This is a great place to share ideas, so we can all work towards creating the 'perfect' gasifier system :) .
@@CNCmachiningisfun If you have concerns regarding the clean gas - i can provide you some info how to get it done fast and reliable. My electro filter is able to clean any smoke into fine and clean gas ;) I had so much trouble to build one that I didn't see the easy way. Today I am fully satisfied ;) If you are or anyone else is interested - just ask. This baby solves all problems within seconds.
@@ravelkoff3549
Wow. That sounds mighty interesting!
I wonder if it is some form of electrostatic precipitator that you are referring to?
In addition to cleaning up the woodgas flow, I imagine that this wood be good for cleaning up the dust and pollen in the air that we breathe, to make for an easier night's sleep during the hayfever season.
I wood love to see watt you have come up with, as wood many others who are addicted to wooden watts :) .
I'm a little late on the comments do to the needs of the garden harvesting. That Ben Peterson rig is a brute ! Well made with a bit of mystery still surrounding it. Makes for a good sequel and update as you dive into it. I have a couple of the Ben Peterson books which you are welcome to have it you would like them. Let me know. You have not moved to the new place yet? Or are you still looking?
Howdee partner,
Indeed, this thing is something of a behemoth, and it is easy to become lost - while walking around it ;) .
While most of its workings are obvious, there remains a number of dark spots - yet to be illuminated.
I really do look forward to setting this thing on fire, to see watt might come out of it.
Perhaps I will sacrifice a couple of 12V bilge blowers in the process, but it wood be worth it :) .
Thank you for the offer of those books, my good friend. If we were just a little closer, I wood surely drop in, and bury my nose in them, until my head is completely full :) .
About the new place, 'thanks' to the latest round of covid lockdowns, I have been unable to visit it.
I own it, and I have a pile of house keys to prove it, but it may be a while before I can go there, and admire its particular fineries, it wood seem.
Oh, just in case you were wondering, it is literally surrounded by treez, so my generator is likely to get fat there ;) .
That's an interesting build would definitely put a funnel reducer from main hopper to burn tube stop any buildup happening around the top. The grate looks a fair distance from the burn tube might need something to stop fuel just dropping to grate without burning and I would rig wiper motor to the grate lever I like the tar/condensation bunds under the cooling system and cyclone condenser nice tidy build. Agree you need a quick release for the filter media tank just use hamster bedding works OK but if you want to get more moisture out will need metal mesh with finer media as second stage filter but adds higher draw load on to vac/motor. Can't you use rubber engine mounts to reduce vibration on it save all that reinforcing? Doesn't really need vibration for ash if it has a movable grate. What are you using for fuel pellets or chunks of wood?
Thanks kindly :) .
I cannot take the credit for this gasifier, as it was made by Ben Peterson, of Victory Gasworks, about 10 years ago.
The rest, however, has been lovingly cobbled together here at home.
Yes, certain things do need to be added to this beast, in order to avoid some of the problems that you have pointed out.
As for vibrations, these benefit the fuel column, by keeping it mobile, just as they do the ash dump.
By all means, there will be a motor on the grate lever, as I really want to make this machine as automatic as possible, because I really love being lazy :) .
@@CNCmachiningisfunEven if it hasn't fired up it's a clean design looks like a mix of a down draft and cross flow I'm definitely stealing some of the design for my own cobbled together gassifier generator (when I get round to building it) I don't think grate automation is lazy it's working smarter not harder😁
@@PedigreeMongrel
Indeed. This shiny beast is quite a sight to behold.
Please feel free to emulate watt you see here, as you may well find ways of improving on this design.
Just as it is with you, time is a limited resource, so I haven't been able to work on this for a while.
In time, once finished, I will add a computer to it, so it can be a bit smarter, and maybe, just maybe, it can go out and plant a fuel forest for itself, while gently taking over the entire world.
After all, this is surely how the robot revolution will begin ;) .
@@CNCmachiningisfun 🤣 gassifiers will be taking over sooner than we imagined at these energy prices.
@@PedigreeMongrel
Agreed. As far as robot revolutions go, this ought to be very good for humanity :) .
I sir, I am Just starting to Build a Gasifier, What is the Purpose of those nozzle,s Do you Blow air in or does it work with the draw fan, And if your Blowing air in, it Must be a small amount of air Right, Thanks for any help Learning.
Congratulations on beginning a gasifier build. You'll have a lot of fun, especially when you run your engine for the first time :) .
Gasifiers work via vacuum. This comes from either the blower, or the engine.
Air enters via the nozzles, which causes the wood to burn at a carefully chosen location, just above the inlet to the reduction tube, which is at the base of the hopper.
You might like to take a look at the videos created by Flash001USA, as he takes you through all the steps needed to build a nice little 4 to 5HP gasifier :) .
Mine are of a different design from Flash's, but the working principle is the same.
@@CNCmachiningisfun Thank you for information ,God Bless
@@brianbloom1799
You are welcome :) .
I look forward to seeing what you will be creating, once you start your new project.
When the nurzels need renewing, get them turned from Hex bar, so then you can run a hex socket on them for better undo-ability.
Yup.
These really need to be made from something that can be torqued with a spanner.
I have been unable to locate the link where this unit is working to see the results ?
Unfortunately, time is not on my side, as I am in the middle of moving from this farm, onto a new one that I bought recently.
Once I get properly set up, I can pull this beast out of the shipping container, and get right back into it :) .
@@CNCmachiningisfun
Great I can hardly wait to see how welll it works . Without a doubt it is the best I have seen.
Thank you
@@sojournsojourntraveler1203
Thanks kindly.
I am looking forward to setting fire to this machine, in order to see watt comes out :) .
Man oh man that's a lot of gasifier! How much power are you thinking this can produce?
Indeed. This is a beast of a gasifer, hence the name I gave it: "Mount Gassimore".
This rather large example of a gasifer is rated at 50 HP, if I understand correctly.
Now, since I have been learning how to do Tig welding, I am planning to make an adapter - that will let me tone it down to a mere 20HP, or thereabouts.
In its current state, I should be able to squeeze a good 30 kilowatts of powertricity out of it, which ought to be enough to fully charge my electric toothbrush ;) .
@@CNCmachiningisfun you definitely have a beast on your hands. Yeah I could see you retrofitting a smaller heart into it that could probably just lay inside of it to reduce it down to a lower power setting. It'll be interesting to see what you do with it.
@@flash001USA
Yup. For sure. It is a beast!
Time is not really on my side, right now, as I have rather a lot on my plate, but I do look forward to taking this further, and eventually setting fire to it, to see watt comes out :) .
@@CNCmachiningisfun Yep I can relate to having a lot on the plate. I finally sat down and started chipping away at my list-O-things to finish up and actually got some things done so now it's onto the next list-O-things to chip away at. Just typing that out and thinking of the next set of hoops I need to jump through is wearing me out... I'm sure your day is just getting started up where you're at and we are getting ready to call it a night here or should I say early morning here? I look forward to seeing you bringing this project alive.
@@flash001USA
For sure. We lead busy lives. As a result, we never get a chance to become bored, and nor do we have the opportunity to truly relax, it wood seem.
Perhaps this is better than having nothing to do, and not having any hobbies to follow.
Right now, I am designing a new engine management computer for the Gas-O-Matix 9000.
This one ought to be smarter than my previous version, but it is somewhat more complex, and the programming may be something of a nightmare, methinks!
Anyway, I sure am looking forward to getting the big gasser up and running, as that is watt we all wood want to see :) .
👍😀
What is the engine going to operate it’s to big I think but your further along Than I am so good luck
This will drive a 10KVA alternator, a welding alternator - and an air compressor, assuming I can fit them all onto the frame :) .
Maybe I could also add a power take off shaft, so I can run a saw bench - in the most dangerous way possible.
@@CNCmachiningisfun Brilliant.
You might use your PTO to cut up the wood for the gasifier as well.
Great video / best I have seen yet.
@@sojournsojourntraveler1203
Yup, that wood work nicely :) .
The sky is the limit, when it comes to making up ideas for this wooden workhorse.
This is your project or comercial / industrial project ?????
This is a commercial gasifier, from Victory Gasworks.
It will be used here on my farm, for industrial processes :) .
@@CNCmachiningisfun tank you no plans or drawings this gasifier ??
@@pitu66bat59
You are welcome.
Sorry, I have no drawings for this gasifier.
All I can offer is this video, and other videos - that will show you what is inside this beast.
There are free designs on TH-cam that you can build, so that will be a good start :) .
Look at Flash001 USA for a GOOD example of a homemade system.
I would buy one. How much?
This one cost about $9000, 10 years ago.
I think you will find cheaper ones online, if you hunt around :) .
you have successfully activated the big gasifier?
Unfortunately, not yet.
I am in the process of moving onto a new farm, and this gasifier project is currently in storage.
Let's hope I can get back into it, sometime next year.
@@CNCmachiningisfun thank you, good luck
@@andrzejbakun1750
Thanks kindly :) .
any updates?
Only minor additions, such as a final muffler system, and anchor points, have been added - since this video was recorded.
The project is currently in storage, along with my other machines, in preparation for my move to my new farm.
Things will be on hold for a while, until I get settled in - then it is up an at 'em :) .
The oxidation zone is wrong constructed!
Oh?
Please elaborate on this, so I may correct it.
I believe your going to need bigger wheels
Yup!
This machine is pretty heavy, just like me, so it is going to need bigger wheels and axels.