Using The Bizarre Keyboard and Mouse Controls of KH2

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  • @StickmanSham
    @StickmanSham  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +168

    DEFAULT KEYBOARD AND MOUSE CONTROLS:
    Attack/Confirm Menu - Left Click or Enter
    Jump/Cancel Menu - Space Bar or Backspace
    Guard/Dodge - Right Click or Right Shift
    Reaction Commands - F or Right CTRL
    Pause - M or 4
    FPS mode - N or 3
    Open Shortcuts - Left Shift
    Lock-on - R
    Toggle Cursor Controls (the thing that lets you control the command menu with the right stick) - C
    Change lock on target - E
    movement is on the typical WASD
    Walk - Alt (this forces you to slow-walk, but it breaks and makes Sora run if you turn the mouse)
    Reset Camera - Middle Mouse or Right Alt
    menuing is done with either the arrow keys or the mouse wheel for up/down and side mouse buttons for left/right
    (the camera behaves differently with the mouse, thats why its like glued to sora instead of drifting behind him)
    overall, after 4 streams and a full playthrough of KH2, I actually think these controls are sane? they look really weird on paper, but when you get your hands on it, its actually a really good attempt to make an extremely controller-specific layout work with a mouse and keyboard. I could absolutely see someone who uses mouse and keyboard for these games having a slight advantage over controller players; fighting Sephiroth with the extra field of view provided by the mouse and the mashing speed of clicking on the mouse made me land stuff like slapshot/reflect combos without missing a single beat. if it didn't look so weird with the way the camera behaves differently, i might've considered using it in the long term, but it probably sucks for stuff like KH1 where the camera is waaaay more limited

    • @jeffpussylol2578
      @jeffpussylol2578 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ngl these controls don’t seem weird at all. The only strange one I see is pause being mapped to an and not escape. Everything else is pretty standard for a third person action game on pc

    • @The_Thirteenth
      @The_Thirteenth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Wtf are those bindings Jesus Christ?
      Like, I usually play with Keyboard, no mouse, and I just treat the Keyboard like a PS2 Controller
      WASD for movement
      Triangle = Numerical 8
      Square = Numerical 4
      Circle = Numerical 6
      X = Numerical 2
      L = Q
      L2 = 2
      L3 = Z
      R = E
      R2 = 4
      R3 = 0
      D Pad = 4 Directionals
      Right Joystick= IJKL
      Like, there's no other way to play KH2 with mouse, any other bimding just sounds weird

    • @oni-linkle4880
      @oni-linkle4880 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I managed to beat roxas on crit keyboard only, no mouse involved, so they have some degree of usability.

    • @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
      @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ...bro this sounds like it's very easy to force sticky keys for certain bosses.

    • @sunnysideup137
      @sunnysideup137 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 you know you can just turn that shortcut off right

  • @unboundsoul3582
    @unboundsoul3582 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +455

    Press F to play reflects?

    • @nebulazz9298
      @nebulazz9298 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😉

    • @kwonk5298
      @kwonk5298 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      LMAO

    • @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
      @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't forget shift key to say APple

    • @demp11
      @demp11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To place reflect

    • @azure4622
      @azure4622 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Made F into cure in kh3 personally

  • @RealRamona
    @RealRamona 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +207

    Xigbar: "R for reload"

    • @LilacMonarch
      @LilacMonarch 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      "Now we're talking!" (while being completely shredded)

    • @hasshenjo6416
      @hasshenjo6416 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I gotcha now!

    • @econmatthew2598
      @econmatthew2598 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Now i imagine Xigbar/Luxu is a Keyboard and Mouse player and probably loves lots of FPS games

    • @panduvandal
      @panduvandal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "Switching to a keyblade is faster than reloading"

  • @fiz8618
    @fiz8618 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    KH2 with KB+M is better than expected.
    KH3 with KB+M turned me into a god.

  • @GamerLMA
    @GamerLMA 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    F. What a wonderful letter already covered in accolades. It now joing triangle and y in the reaction command hall of fame

  • @CheeBorgisagoodname
    @CheeBorgisagoodname 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    I love that you still kept the Ultra Instinct Goof picture for Goofy 😂

  • @ezekielduncan2352
    @ezekielduncan2352 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Sham's "Jackpot!" at the end sounded EXACTLY like Dante. I'm impressed!

  • @drawhou9356
    @drawhou9356 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    46:00 "Press F to re[F]lect"

  • @xAbsolution1
    @xAbsolution1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Bro, my ps5 controller disconnected in the middle of Ven's Enchanted Dominion visit after i released Aurora's heart. The game wouldnt pick up my controller after i turned it back on. I couldnt reach save point and had to fight Maleficient on my first playthrough with keyboard and mouse. Horrible

  • @yV__Vy
    @yV__Vy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    just found your channel and this video, it's really helping me relax as i do my programming homework so I subscribed! looking forward to more videos by you!

    • @StickmanSham
      @StickmanSham  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      you'll love my stream archive channel if you like this style of long-form playthrough content

    • @JI0MB
      @JI0MB 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@StickmanSham can vouch

    • @arson_e.
      @arson_e. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thank you for the idea, i'm about to try this

  • @LilacMonarch
    @LilacMonarch 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Don't squander your time.

  • @RoseTerraW14
    @RoseTerraW14 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Take a shot everytime Sham says "bitch"- Blackout before you're halfway through the video

  • @stonedmoth
    @stonedmoth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    babe wake up new stickman sham vid just dropped

  • @futureqiqimain4601
    @futureqiqimain4601 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I just can't imagine anyone playing kh with mouse and keyboard
    It's just very out of blue

    • @SheriffJake_
      @SheriffJake_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Currently suffering through KH3 with m+kb, because the first time I held a controller was with 18, so I never got used to them, it's the only way I can play 99% of games. The 1% are Nintendo games with a Pro Controller.

    • @SmashtoonGamer
      @SmashtoonGamer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This how I played my second playthrough of 1 and first playthrough of 2, and Ven’s story in bbs. I got a controller a few months ago so now I can join the war about which button cure is on

    • @futureqiqimain4601
      @futureqiqimain4601 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SmashtoonGamer without a doubt cure is square
      Reflect is circle

    • @Cheesepoop
      @Cheesepoop 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@futureqiqimain4601objectively wrong

    • @matamatmassivetac5789
      @matamatmassivetac5789 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's how I played all the games when I first got the Epic Games ports. It was very funny to work with, especially the camera shenanigans. But I somehow managed. Then I got a controller. Let me tell you, I was somehow worse with that.

  • @maxturbo45
    @maxturbo45 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    46:06 if you set the playback speed to 0.25×, tou can see Ruki's model freak out LMFAO

    • @ImaPizzaK
      @ImaPizzaK 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ruki is a handsome guy

  • @CaptainStraya
    @CaptainStraya 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I’m sure bbs is a special kind of hell with keyboard and mouse

  • @rollinjay8214
    @rollinjay8214 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This seems like a perfect game for analog stick movements but mouse for attacking. Would probably feel even better than this

  • @Zenriesz
    @Zenriesz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    43:28 That was probably the coolest thing I've ever seen anyone do in KH2, I assume magic lock-on lets you do that?

  • @MadValraven
    @MadValraven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    always played KH with controller, but recently my controller broke and i played KH3 from start to finish with mouse and keyboard, it was actually pretty good, at the star the adaptation phase was rough, but since i already played the game, on the second world i was already pretty familiar with the controllers

    • @jacksonlatch2165
      @jacksonlatch2165 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      KH3 is the best keyboard and mouse Kingdom hearts for shotlocks alone.

  • @Seekay37
    @Seekay37 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I actually play all the KH games with KB+M, I think it works just fine for the most part but some minigames or whatever are clearly designed with joysticks and then break with mouse input. Also the camera sensitivity is all over the place which is annoying but you get used to it. Back in the day I used to play keyboard only on PCSX2 lmao, still worked fine though. I would have loved them to take full advantage of the keyboard for the PC ports so you could bind individual commands to keys, how cool would that be?

  • @moon3117
    @moon3117 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Paper Mario be like: im so FLAT!

  • @ars3n3_lup1n2
    @ars3n3_lup1n2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I honestly find kh with mouse and keyboard really comfortable

  • @destroyermcw626
    @destroyermcw626 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The Keyboard has been forged!

  • @seanbot10
    @seanbot10 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Me when kh keyboard and mouse camera go brrrrrrrrrr

  • @GeorgeCowsert
    @GeorgeCowsert 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We need a KH game on PC that is meant for PC. Imagine actually getting to use the number keys for spells like in MMO's.
    Edit: fuck it, I got nothing better to do. Imma theorycraft a dumb idea for a PC exclusive take on the command deck.
    Instead of using MP to cast spells, take the BBS/ReCoded/DDD approach to special abilities, where you create a deck of commands that automatically cycle when you use them.
    However
    Instead of it being one long list, you always have four options available, which are activated with the 1, 2, 3, & 4 keys respectively. Using one will cycle all four options, but holding down one of the number buttons allows you to combine commands. This function can also be used on the normal attack button to trigger special combos.
    I think the idea of shotlocks and airstep should also make a return for PC. On console, it feels super clunky and risky in even the best of circumstances. On PC, it is absurdly easy to just look at an enemy and either zoom at them or blast 'em with free ranged damage. As a mechanic, it legitimately works better on PC.
    An experimental change I want to see playtested would be ditching the idea of combos automatically homing in on enemies.
    It's a staple of Kingdom Hearts, hence why I say it'd need playtesting, but I feel like PC is far better suited for run 'n' gun combat than the kind of combat KH has.
    The mouse just provides so much control that it becomes really easy for players to orient themselves, so they shouldn't need to home-in on enemies to be effective.
    I can see some potential problems with air combat, but if airstep is present then that doesn't really matter.

  • @Ryanzusa
    @Ryanzusa 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Something about how the camera functions on keyboard and mouse just looks so unbelievebly cursed to me idk why

  • @sceptiletasukengaming
    @sceptiletasukengaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    F to reflext

  • @foster2095
    @foster2095 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    iiiiii'm SO FLAT

    • @slime_jelly201
      @slime_jelly201 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      transmascs after their binder arrives in the mail:

    • @Plagiarismm
      @Plagiarismm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Naoto Shirogane (presumed.)

    • @JPNEETozaki
      @JPNEETozaki 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@slime_jelly201 what?

  • @unnusannus6193
    @unnusannus6193 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Press F to pay for commands

  • @valentinecure329
    @valentinecure329 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    didn't even know carpet could move like that. 15:17

  • @arson_e.
    @arson_e. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    10:07 bro thinks he's part of the team 💀

  • @JxBatterymanTTV
    @JxBatterymanTTV 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    SCROLL WHEEL SPEED!!?!?!

  • @LaCazaLP
    @LaCazaLP 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i swear its not even hype at all.
    but damn the Mouswheel strats are hype for me.

  • @Dinjoralo.
    @Dinjoralo. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Keyboard and Mouse controls could work really well, if you could separate bindings from buttons.
    As in, Circle is both for jumping and going back in menus, but I'd prefer jump on Space and menu-back on Right-Click. Lots of things like that make it feel impossible to make a control scheme that's natural both in combat and menus.

  • @Hardridge
    @Hardridge 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i hate how you can tell he playing on keyboard and mouse too

    • @arson_e.
      @arson_e. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the mashing noises are hilarious 😭

  • @econmatthew2598
    @econmatthew2598 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keyboard and Mouse is definitely the best for Duel Stance, as scroll wheel and button spam is op as fuck.

  • @Flufferpup
    @Flufferpup 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Honestly, anything other than a playstation controller just feels so viscerally wrong to me lol

  • @lumaseed6490
    @lumaseed6490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Once again Jack

  • @BreathWeapon
    @BreathWeapon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The game looks completly different, at least camera view wise, it gives it a bit less flow (especially with the WASD movement) but it looks like a honestly fun/good way to play it watching this! The major downside is that KH2 doesn't seem like it was optimised for keyboard controls

  • @emashane7035
    @emashane7035 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i remapped my controls for pc kh but i like it on mouse in keyboard (most of the time)

  • @Lunarzac
    @Lunarzac 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This will be a gem video

  • @destroyermcw626
    @destroyermcw626 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was wondering when someone would do this.

  • @Simeo905
    @Simeo905 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    speaking of which i was just watching one of the streams for this particular thing when I was eating lunch lol so this is a welcome surprise

  • @elmaxo4942
    @elmaxo4942 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's only possible to play with keyboard and mouse in the epic games version right?

    • @thepotatoking13
      @thepotatoking13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I mean theoretically you could emulate the game and bind all the controls to keyboard and mouse that way too. Legally though, yeah the Epic Games port is the only way you can iirc

  • @niteriemcfarlane5285
    @niteriemcfarlane5285 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so do ya GOT IT MEMORIZED stickman 😏

  • @mohitonon-alco4287
    @mohitonon-alco4287 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The vertical sensitivity on mouse is way too high for some reason

  • @Roxas1510
    @Roxas1510 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'am SO FLAR-

  • @Edkkiiid
    @Edkkiiid 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember I best final mix eng patch on pcsx2 using only a keyboard. Been playing only deck recently and don’t know how I did it

  • @jacksonlatch2165
    @jacksonlatch2165 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I beat most of my critical mode run on this video, I state before the video starts, lets see how this goes.
    (Used a controller randomly just cause comfort and used to it, and for gummie segments.)

  • @Rundas0
    @Rundas0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    can u do chimken lil fps mode on keyboiard ouse??? itd be like an fpx xD

  • @DonFreecssCL
    @DonFreecssCL 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good fight!👍🏿

  • @KevinEontrainer381
    @KevinEontrainer381 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Press F to pay reflects

  • @GhilliedWDB
    @GhilliedWDB 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    F FOR GODSPEED

  • @majorasamtheo-door7007
    @majorasamtheo-door7007 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s the roxas voice mod called?

    • @ryyyyyyn
      @ryyyyyyn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      its roxas original voice on nexusmods iirc

  • @MarioMarioPlushGUY
    @MarioMarioPlushGUY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this the Epic Games port?

  • @PandaKook
    @PandaKook 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Freflect

  • @bluestar_kun
    @bluestar_kun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had this playing while I was playing Starfield on another screen, and I look over at 28:42 just to see the goofy party member icons