going to concur with others, I love the professionalism of these two reporters. As an out of stater, I will sorely miss them! It's rare these days to have the news reported so competently, with the story foregrounded over the the journalists themselves. No over-dramatic, inappropriate tonal emphases (that happen all too often when the news is read from a teleprompter); no weird, inappropiatley timed smiling-at-the-camera poses. Y'all remind me of Walter Cronkite in the way you just go about your jobs and do them well. Thank you so much.
Absolutely awesome great job this reporter are doing , we will miss them once this case is over . We may see them in another case and we will know they will do great covering other cases .
Absolutely awesome great job this reporter are doing , we will miss them once this case is over . We may see them in another case and we will know they will do great covering other cases .
@sila442 A voice analysis should have been done and compared with Richard Allen’s voice. So many things both sides missed. So many questions left unanswered!
@@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724yes I agree many questions unanswered not fair for the family’s Abby & Libby . If indeed Richard did it . He should The penalty he deserved , bt either way . Who ever Is accountable for This horrific tragedy that happened to these young innocent girls. We need justice for Abby & Libby, so they finally be able to rest .
Love these two news reporters and absolutely love Katy Jackson Lindsey! Yall have become my go to news channel for this trial and i live in Mississippi!
It’s insane the jury is not allowed to use parts of transcripts if they need to refer to a an aspect of the trial such as eye witness testimony etc. It’s true the judge wants them to rely on memory but they have access to evidence so there’s no reason why they shouldn’t have access to parts of transcripts if they question something. It’s another example of the sadistic behavior of this particular judge.
@ you obviously are clueless how jury and deliberation works. You’ve clearly have never been on a trial you’re just a keyboard warrior shooting off like a banshees
Hey WTHR: Excellent job covering this case. Kudos to the entire team (Scott, Katie, Emily, Bob et al). Having Katie analyze the case as a former prosecutor and current defense attorney was spectacular. I really enjoyed Katie. They have all earned a little extra vacation time (paid) after this is over.
I have a question, I haven’t heard it been said yet out of the content I’ve watched, just curious: Has it been proven that “bridge guy” is the person who said “down the hill” ? Are we for sure that they are one in the same? Does the video show bridge guy saying these words? I’m wondering how they are certain that the person walking on the bridge is the same person who said “down the hill” I’m not saying it’s not the same person, but I haven’t seen or heard anything that proves it’s the same person. Just curious! I probably missed this being talked about specifically.
No, you didn't miss it. There is zero proof that RA is BG There is zero proof that BG is the killer Of course, they don't know who said 'down the hill '
As pointed out by news reporters, 100 pages of notes and the days blur togethrr. A jury should have access to the transcripts and any and all exhibits or reports.
The state was horrible trying to prove their case of Richard Allen's guilt. They only proved to be incompetent and placed frustration in many seeing how they are trying to convict an innocent man. Why else does everyone think Richard Allen has so many supporters? Not because two girls were murdered.
Bob and Emily, Samantha and Katie....great job!! This is the coverage that I watched every day at the end of the day. I'm not local, I live in Columbus Ohio....you guys did a fantastic job! With all of the notes that you were able to take, and your reporting in general....well, I was impressed. Thank you for all of your hard work.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY NO ONE THAT WAS AT THE TRAIL AND BRIDGE THAT DAY IN THE SAME TIME FRAME, DIDN'T SAY THEY HEARD LIBBYS DAD YELLING LIBBY AND ABBYS NAME WHILE WALKING LOOKING FOR THEM STARTING AT 3:14PM.
@@Kinsman19 Try this on for a Rico match. Six Carroll County girls were murdered in 3 months. Four were black and 2 were white. Immediately after the white girls were murdered, a tip line and multi-agency task force were established to investigate the 2 white girls murders, but the 4 murdered black girls were excluded from the tip line and task force investigation. Race was used as the determining factor as to which of the 6 Carroll County female child murders would be investigated. Racial discrimination is illegal and it was used to obstruct justice by influencing the outcome of an unsolved mass murder investigation.
@@Kinsman19the fact that they even brought this case to court is a joke. Absolutely zero physical evidence and from what I’ve seen and heard I’ve yet to see anything proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
Piggybacking on the other comments… you all will be missed when this is over. You all invited the world in and welcomed us to your channel during this trial. What a great crew you have, so thorough and sharing fascinating facts about this trial. I love this format and wish every news station took your layout and briefed on more trials the way you all have. Justice for Abby and Libby
Someone plugged headphones into the girls. Phone late at night long after Richard Allen supposedly left the area that should be enough on its own to be reasonal doubt, to find the man non not guilty. There were several people involved who lived close by. It's all pointing to people that had the convenience and are familiar with the area, not one person could have done this
I have a phone that fell in toilet. I had to ask my son why it keeps saying headphones plugged in. I don’t have headphones. Took to Apple and they had to fix it
There's stuck under a rock and a hard place. They have to praise the police because there the ones doing the investigation there has been so many times where if you criticize the investigation that's trying to help you they'll usually just stop investigating or let it go cold so they have to say they believe the state
Only the killer would think stating he’d been on the bridge was safe because the killer knew the girls were killed away from the bridge. Later when the video was known, stating he was on the bridge is now the rope he swings on. No amount of poor police work or bad recollections can change the fact that he was there.
Even if he is guilty the amount of negligence and incompetence from the poor police work has left so much reasonable doubt that he can get away with it.
Not really. If you were on the jury and sat through 20+ days of the trial and are saying "I don't know", that's ignorance and or laziness.. As a juror I think it is your responsibility to get sure and make a decision you can live with. He either did it or he didn't. Don't hang the jury because you can't say guilty or not guilty, or don't want to be held responsible.
@@jccrowder4063no. That's not laziness. If at the end of the trial a juror isn't sure then that means the state hasn't proven their case beyond reasonable doubt. If they had, the juror would be sure.
@@jccrowder4063 Thats a very naive comment. Clearly that’s reasonable doubt for some of them why is it taking four days? You must not watch many trials. Maybe you dont pay attention at all if you do watch them. That’s laziness.
@@Michiganmegs "I'm not sure." in and of itself does not qualify as reasonable doubt. It does however show an inability and or unwillingness to reach a decisive conclusion based on the information presented. "I'm not sure." is not an option. Guilty or not guilty. Stand up and say it with conviction in front of the defendant and the victims families in a public forum and you will have fulfilled your responsibility as a juror.
If a picture is worth a 1000 words, how much is a video worth? If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, & quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
If you hear a quack but you can't see the duck is there really a duck? Or duck hunter? The point I'm trying to make is if you can't tell how can you be 100% sure?
People are forgetting that Kelsi Germans DNA was found in hair(s) entangled in Abby’s hand!! Richard Allen’s DNA was NOT found at the crime scene nor at his home and belongings! Kelsi needs to be looked into much further than she’s already been!
Kelsi gave her sister her jumper. She was 17 then and you are a despicable human for putting those ugly thoughts out there. But I guess you think RA is innocent as well? How dare you put that shit out there after all the family have been through. Imagine it happening to you just for a minute but I assume your 1 brain cell is overworked
@@johannawigg6921 Kelsi gave her sister Libby her jumper. Hairs fall out easily all the time. Abby had that jumper on because she was dressed in Libby’s clothes. There you go, there’s no conspiracy behind it at all. Kelsi was 17 at the time and the sisters were very close. I get so upset when nut cases blame Kelsi, but RA who admitted being there, dressed in those clothes, spent cartridge found under a shoe, who lost his phone from 2017 but had every other one, could not be the killer. Use your critical thinking skills. Lots of killers don’t leave DNA. Scott Peterson received the death penalty and there was no DNA. Circumstantial evidence tells a story you just have to be smart enough to put it together
@@johannawigg6921 For me it can happen really easily. I’m looking at a hair tie of mine with heaps of hair in it. It was only 2 strands. Sometimes I find a hair in a clean hoodie of mine. I really don’t think there’s anything nefarious in the hair. They both had longish hair too. As for Abby, the blood expert said it was very unusual for Abby to have no blood on her hands when they weren’t restrained. The only conclusion he gave was he believed Abby was unconscious at time of death. This case is simple for me but I understand people not believing the confessions etc. I believe them because the evidence points to RA and I believe when he told Kathy and his mother, he was calm and had found god. He wanted to tell them so badly but they just kept telling him he didn’t do it. I think that sent him crazy. He was trying to repent IMO. He was only ‘crazy’ when it suited him
I'm watching from Sweden 🇸🇪 and this is by far the best reporting available. Plus all the knowledge in the studio. Can't give you a Nobel prize, but a 👍💯
Let's focus on the corruption that led to a guy being arrested put on trial for murder without conclusive evidence. Six Carroll County girls were murdered in 3 months. Four were black and two were white. Immediately after the white girls were murdered, a national tip line and multi-agency Delphi task force was set up. The 4 murdered black girls who knew the Delphi girls were excluded from the tip line and task force investigation. Race was used to determine which of the 6 female child murders would be investigated. Discrimination is illegal. The intent of using race to decide what murders would be investigated resulted in 4 murders not being investigated and that's obstruction of justice.
The FBI got involved because they were already in town. Why? On the police scanner you can hear the CC sheriff saying "keep the FBI back" after the bodies were found. 🤔 Several suspicious deaths around this case. Evidence of attempted cover up in the Flora fires. Ongoing harassment of anyone asking questions. Paid more than $50k legal fees to keep Flora 911 calls sealed.
Who else could’ve done this but Richard Allen? The killer was bridge guy, or wasn’t it? The bridge guy was Richard Allen, or wasn’t it? He placed himself on the bridge that day and was wearing the same clothing as bridge guy, right? It makes sense that, when he was through, he walked on County Road to get to his car parked at the CPS building, right? His unspent bullet is a match to his gun, but how unique are the markings on the unspent bullet? This case is maddening.
But the prosecution disproved their own theory about the bullet by having to fire the gun. Also Allen said he racked the gun on the bridge and lost a casing.. How does that bullet appear between the girls?
So many are unsure! I hope they don’t convict the wrong guy letting the real culprit(s) get away with a double murder of two young girls! That would be awful to know the real killer(s) are still in our community, walking free to do it again! I just feel so upset for the girls and their families. We all want Justice but is there any to be found ever in this case?? This is far too important of a case to screw up and unfortunately, that’s what they’ve done from the beginning- letting down the girls, their families/loved ones and us, the community. Praying for those girls and their families. ❤ And for Justice to really be served no matter what!
I'm also going to miss those reporters and the legal expert! I really wonder who the families of Abby and Libby think is the killer, if they believe RA is guilty or not. I feel that justice will not be served.
I love love LOVE how you two finish each other's words/sentences🤣🤣 usually that would be annoying but you two are like cute twins talking about something😅
Or Elvis Fields who confessed to his sister the next day, is in prison for abducting another little girl, but was deemed too emotionally challenged by LE?
Libby gave us who took their lives. He told LE what he was wearing that day and it matches the clothes in the video she took when terrified bc she knew it wouldn't end well All the rest Is only what a good defense lawyer does...I hope this jury sees thru that and really sees what libby gave them... His voice and the video with the man in clothing HE says he wore. Call me simple but it's strong enuf for me.
Whew, thank you reporters for standing around waiting. And thank you to the courthouse staff for letting everyone use the bathrooms. I'm sure you guys have been inundated with work, especially the grounds and cleaning staff.
Apple/Android IT experts should have been brought in to evaluate Libby’s phone. Not some “expert” testifying from a Google search🙄 And why in the H*LL did a small town LE agency cut ties with the FBI so early on??? Big mistake…this should have been solved early on, balls were dropped, millions have been spent because some arrogant law enforcement agency let their pride and over confidence run the FBI off. With 1000’s of leads coming in there was NO way local LE could handle this unspeakably heinous crime.! Those little girls/young ladies deserve better than this!! And so do their families and friends!! The pain and unspeakable suffering they have faced for years not having answers is Infuriating🥲
Ive been watching this channel from Ireland...im gonna miss watching these two reporters when this case is over. They have done one fantastic job covering this sad case! 👏 Justice for Abby and Libby 🙏❤️
I wonder if the girls parents still feel that RA did this after hearing the testimony of everyone. I’ve always thought he did it and after the trial I still believe he is guilty, but many people have changed their mind about his guilt. I just pray the jury gets it right.
My question is, since the video has been out so long, why did no one in the community say, "oh my goodness, that's the guy at CVS."? It's a really small community. If it was him, I think someone would have recognized him on the video. Doesn't make sense to me that it's him.
@@AbbyJohnson-i3gAND the CVS is located on the same main street as the police department 😮 just a few doors away 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ This is senseless!!!
I believe RA is bridge guy. I believe his confessions. Even if he's found not guilty, his life is over. He'll never live this down as a free man or incarcerated.
@kater3058 I don't believe it, the jury have seen things we haven't, I hope the right decision is made either way, he confessed to his family not authorities, if he had then I'd say he was tortured, which he wasn't, he's in jail under suspicion he murdered 2 young girls, he had to be fully kept away from the normal population or they would kill him.
I mean, this isn't technically true. The walk isn't real. It's a real man though. I feel like it probably is Ricky Allen but it doesn't mean he committed the crime, does it. That 43 second video shows him in the background and then a voice coming from behind the girls. Him being on that bridge is meaningless and I don't understand why they went with the theory that the guy was the killer. @@HJcillie
Richard Allen is a monster. Even he could not believe his luck not being caught sooner. That is the fault of LE. No police department is perfect, mistakes are made. That does not take away from the fact that he is GUILTY. Hope the jury sees it too.
No evidence, reasonable doubt. LE certainly botched this case but the true monsters are still on the loose. No justice unless the real monsters are caught. This is a travesty of justice.
Police aren't the experts. Yet defense attorneys go after them like Crazy. They should all know crime scene 101. Don't touch anything. I know aLOT are corrupt outright dumb,how do reports get lost. Should never happen.
Allen is almost certainly guilty. I implore you to follow the *facts* of the case, and not the drooling nutbars spouting insane conspiracy theories. These are the facts of the case: 1.) Richard Allen placed himself at the bridge and on the trails at the same time the girls were there, and also said he was wearing the same clothes as Bridge Guy. 2.) A witness put him on the first platform at the same time he put himself on the platform. Then the same witness, when she was leaving, saw Abby and Libby walking toward the bridge (whereon bridge guy was standing). 3.) Every witness who saw Bridge Guy said he was the same person who is in the Bridge Guy video. 4.) Allen said he saw three girls. Three girls said they saw the guy in the Bridge Guy video. 5.) Allen said he was on his cell phone at the bridge, looking at a stock ticker. There's no cell phone data corroborating this. Either he had his phone off, or he left his phone home. Why? 6.) The police found 20 cell phones at his house, except then phone he had in 2017, when the girls were murdered. Odd. 7.) He confessed over 60 times, including to his wife and mother. Perhaps this could be written off if he hadn't given the detail about the white van spooking him. The white van that spooked Allen is corroborated by the man who drove the van, as he put himself at the scene the same time Allen said he was with the girls. And no, he couldn’t have known about the white van as know one knew about it at the time of his confession. It was NOT on the discovery. 8.) Bridge Guy's voice sounds like Allen's voice. 9.) The ejected cartridge had marks that matched Allen's gun. 10.) The wounds on Abby and Libby's throats looked like they were done by a box cutter. Richard Allen admitted to slashing their throats with a box cutter in one of his confessions. 11.) He admitted to parking at the CPS building, and his car was seen at the CPS building. How anyone sees him as anything but guilty is beyond my understanding. Some nutty people are going to great lengths to defend this child m*rd*r*r. Completely insane. Allen is Bridge Guy. Bridge Guy abducted the girls. Allen confessed to being Bridge Guy, admitted to killing them, and described details only he could have known. He killed those poor girls.
Because he said he was wearing the jacket do you know if they ever got that off him and tested it? Do we know if him going to the bridge was a regular thing or why he said he was there that day? Seems odd for a grown man who doesn’t look like someone who goes for walks would do that? Do we know if any of this has been brought up? I’m from Australia so I may have missed a lot.
@@HeyTezza The police took several items of clothing from his house, but they didn't serve the warrant until 5 years after the murders. By that time, all traces of blood would have been gone. And yes, he went to the bridge regularly. Knew the place quite well. If I remember correctly, both the jacket, and the fact that he frequented the trails, were brought up during the trial.
Do you not find it strange that every single media outlet with people who studied law say he should be found not guilty, but wait. @bambinaforever1402 says he's guilty and makes no elaboration. Grow up
Good report. I know golden ticket holders can go in and use the bathrooms. But, can the public (people in line like tubers) use the bathrooms as well?? Or does Judge Gull dislike them so much that she also makes them suffer from basic human needs. After all, she doesn’t even allow them water in court. Don’t get me wrong. I agree with all of Gull’s rulings. I just don’t care for her treatment of the public.
I feel so sad bc either way as I’ve stated before I don’t know if we are getting justice for Libby & Abby right now. There is way too much reasonable doubt. If he really is innocent how awful it would be to be locked up one more day as an innocent man. Also that would mean the sicko is still out there & how scary is that?! Either a free man is a killer or a man losing his freedom should not be there. My gut just doesn’t feel like anything is right in this case unfortunately 😢
These two journalists' work has been exceptional. Thank you for your hard work. imho I truly don't believe Richard Allen is guilty and i hope he goes free, there isn't enough circumstantial evidence to accuse him, and there was so much shady stuff around his arrest and treatment. Abby, Libby and their families deserve justice and that doesn't mean convicting an innocent man to be over with it.
By reading these comments can tell people who have not followed since beginning. People going around talking with no knowledge of the facts. No one cares about your opinions. He did it. Get over yourselves.
What facts?? Lmfao the ones law enforcement blatantly lied about while on the stand. Talk about following since the beginning! This is pathetic you have no knowledge of the facts you’re just going with the narrative. Do the research instead of just listening to something and agreeing with it bc it “sounds” good. Evidence tells the story not lies.
RA had 19 devices taken from his house. The phone he had during the crime he got rid of? Suddenly the only phone that could clear him of any wrong doing he decided to get rid of it.
They got his information from the phone. It didn't fit the narrative and they didn't find anything that they could use against him so they didn't bring it up. The fbi never even had RA as a suspect.
Even if his phone is missing, the contacts he supposedly contacted should have his messages as proof...funny Kelsi's phone was never extracted or taken...that's a huge suspect red flag..
He allowed the detective in the days following when he voluntarily told them he'd been there to take his phone and look at it, and that person cleared him. I also have a stack of old phones I haven't recycled or done anything with, except the one I had for 2 years beginning 7 years ago.ira not because I am hiding a crime but because I shattered the screen so I had it recycled.
They haven't proven the case. Just because you wanna see allen hang doesn't mean they proved the case beyond a reasonable doubt. They have zero of Allen's DNA or the girls DNA anywhere. No murder weapon. The bullet is bs they are saying that someone who buys the same exact model gun with the same size chamber couldn't possibly leave the same marks, which the round being unspent, would only be touched by the extractor, since the chamber holds no rifling and the rim is the only part of the casing to touch the chamber? There is no way to possibly, ever, get close match marking from a different firearm or the same model? Yeah.. You are wrong. If I have two factory machined 2016 Ruger American pistols, they will both leave near identical, if any, extraction marks on a round. Especially if they are steel. They have no actual evidence, his confessions are bs and he had the therapist woman involved in the case online feeding him information. This case stinks of corruption
2nd day 🤦🏻♀️ 😢 unfortunately it’s going to be a hung jury, sorry Libby your video was for nothing! People don’t care about you or Abby, in fact they call your video a lie. Oh and they blame your family! Sorry girls! ❤️
I am going to miss these 2 after all this is over. Best reporters I’ve seen!
Same! Indiana is lucky to have this news outfit!
I wholeheartedly agree 👍
I hope they cover Brian Kohberger. That will be one to watch. If they ever get to trial😒
I wish they’d do the kohberger case!
agreed. far better than andrea burkhart too
going to concur with others, I love the professionalism of these two reporters. As an out of stater, I will sorely miss them! It's rare these days to have the news reported so competently, with the story foregrounded over the the journalists themselves. No over-dramatic, inappropriate tonal emphases (that happen all too often when the news is read from a teleprompter); no weird, inappropiatley timed smiling-at-the-camera poses. Y'all remind me of Walter Cronkite in the way you just go about your jobs and do them well. Thank you so much.
Thanks for the straight up reporting. with no drama.
Best coverage of a case I've seen. Great job! Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪
Check out Lawyer Lee. I like her too!
@@Kyriecat12 Saw her at LYK, great women! Have followed Peter Tragos for a long time now, love to listen to his show.
Absolutely awesome great job this reporter are doing , we will miss them once this case is over . We may see them in another case and we will know they will do great covering other cases .
Absolutely awesome great job this reporter are doing , we will miss them once this case is over . We may see them in another case and we will know they will do great covering other cases .
Katie Jackson- Lindsey has had the best insight and the most thoughtful analysis that I’ve seen on this case.
You can't tell me with all our technology.. they can't figure out how tall bridge guy is from the video
It's interesting that the state made the choice not to have an expert so that, seeing they had way more resources to hire experts than the defense.
They can. But it would cost around 10000 $. They don't want to or don't have the money.
I'll pitch in the first $10. To settle this.
@sila442 A voice analysis should have been done and compared with Richard Allen’s voice. So many things both sides missed. So many questions left unanswered!
@@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724yes I agree many questions unanswered not fair for the family’s Abby & Libby . If indeed Richard did it . He should
The penalty he deserved , bt either way . Who ever Is accountable for
This horrific tragedy that happened to these young innocent girls. We need justice for Abby & Libby, so they finally be able to rest .
Can’t thank yall enough for the comprehensive and fair coverage
Love these two news reporters and absolutely love Katy Jackson Lindsey! Yall have become my go to news channel for this trial and i live in Mississippi!
It’s insane the jury is not allowed to use parts of transcripts if they need to refer to a an aspect of the trial such as eye witness testimony etc. It’s true the judge wants them to rely on memory but they have access to evidence so there’s no reason why they shouldn’t have access to parts of transcripts if they question something. It’s another example of the sadistic behavior of this particular judge.
That is absurd. They did get to take notes. Video playback is done in courtroom I think. Give me the remote, too.
@ you obviously are clueless how jury and deliberation works. You’ve clearly have never been on a trial you’re just a keyboard warrior shooting off like a banshees
💯 Agreed! 🙏
The amount of reasonable doubt, SAIDS HE WALKS!
Hey WTHR: Excellent job covering this case. Kudos to the entire team (Scott, Katie, Emily, Bob et al). Having Katie analyze the case as a former prosecutor and current defense attorney was spectacular. I really enjoyed Katie. They have all earned a little extra vacation time (paid) after this is over.
I have a question, I haven’t heard it been said yet out of the content I’ve watched, just curious:
Has it been proven that “bridge guy” is the person who said “down the hill” ? Are we for sure that they are one in the same? Does the video show bridge guy saying these words? I’m wondering how they are certain that the person walking on the bridge is the same person who said “down the hill”
I’m not saying it’s not the same person, but I haven’t seen or heard anything that proves it’s the same person. Just curious! I probably missed this being talked about specifically.
No, you didn't miss it.
There is zero proof that RA is BG
There is zero proof that BG is the killer
Of course, they don't know who said 'down the hill '
So many questions left unanswered! If I were a juror, I’d be so confused right now!
@@sheilahardison7673Anyone but RA right? The people that want a child killer to walk free is unbelievable
What is the benefit or reason for not providing the Jury with trial transcripts?
As pointed out by news reporters, 100 pages of notes and the days blur togethrr. A jury should have access to the transcripts and any and all exhibits or reports.
Justice for these precious girls Abby & Libby 💙💜
which includes putting the RIGHT person in prison
@@Kittie28Libby did the best she could at solving her own crime
An Appeal is most likely
Think so too
Because you think Allen will be found guilty? There’d be no appeal otherwise.
@ yes very so. But we’ll see. Not sure how it will go but I think he’ll be found guilty.
Definitely
The state was horrible trying to prove their case of Richard Allen's guilt.
They only proved to be incompetent and placed frustration in many seeing how they are trying to convict an innocent man.
Why else does everyone think Richard Allen has so many supporters? Not because two girls were murdered.
Justice for Libby and Abby ⚖️
Praying for their loved ones 🙏🙏
Bob and Emily, Samantha and Katie....great job!! This is the coverage that I watched every day at the end of the day. I'm not local, I live in Columbus Ohio....you guys did a fantastic job! With all of the notes that you were able to take, and your reporting in general....well, I was impressed. Thank you for all of your hard work.
Great reporting, thank you Channel 13.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY NO ONE THAT WAS AT THE TRAIL AND BRIDGE THAT DAY IN THE SAME TIME FRAME, DIDN'T SAY THEY HEARD LIBBYS DAD YELLING LIBBY AND ABBYS NAME WHILE WALKING LOOKING FOR THEM STARTING AT 3:14PM.
Love and prayers for Richard and his family
I have so much empathy for all three the victims's families. I just hope the real monsters get caught.
He is now the 3rd victim of this murder and cover up
There is a bright spot in this situation. Mr. Allen has accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord & Savior! Praise the Lord!!!
The odor of corruption surrounding this case is overwhelming. Going to that courthouse every day must have been like camping next pig manure pond.
What corruption?
@@Kinsman19 Oh please...
@@Bubba__Sawyer What corruption?
@@Kinsman19 Try this on for a Rico match. Six Carroll County girls were murdered in 3 months. Four were black and 2 were white. Immediately after the white girls were murdered, a tip line and multi-agency task force were established to investigate the 2 white girls murders, but the 4 murdered black girls were excluded from the tip line and task force investigation. Race was used as the determining factor as to which of the 6 Carroll County female child murders would be investigated. Racial discrimination is illegal and it was used to obstruct justice by influencing the outcome of an unsolved mass murder investigation.
@@Kinsman19the fact that they even brought this case to court is a joke. Absolutely zero physical evidence and from what I’ve seen and heard I’ve yet to see anything proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
They have the wrong guy
Piggybacking on the other comments… you all will be missed when this is over. You all invited the world in and welcomed us to your channel during this trial. What a great crew you have, so thorough and sharing fascinating facts about this trial. I love this format and wish every news station took your layout and briefed on more trials the way you all have. Justice for Abby and Libby
Great reporting!
Someone plugged headphones into the girls. Phone late at night long after Richard Allen supposedly left the area that should be enough on its own to be reasonal doubt, to find the man non not guilty. There were several people involved who lived close by. It's all pointing to people that had the convenience and are familiar with the area, not one person could have done this
Headphones or external speaker.
I have a phone that fell in toilet. I had to ask my son why it keeps saying headphones plugged in. I don’t have headphones. Took to Apple and they had to fix it
Love those two reporters please send them to cover ALL the murder cases ❤❤❤
Free Richard Allen!
Ms. Jackson Lindsay is excellent.
I wonder what Abby and Libby's families think of the trial
There's stuck under a rock and a hard place. They have to praise the police because there the ones doing the investigation there has been so many times where if you criticize the investigation that's trying to help you they'll usually just stop investigating or let it go cold so they have to say they believe the state
I’m sure they’re frustrated. They know Richard Allen is bridge guy. They just need the jury to give the guilty verdict.
How do they know that?
@@moisesmontecillo7570
You know them? No your speaking on your opinion
@@GibboFrank lol you don't know them either so what are you even talking about
No proof
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Only the killer would think stating he’d been on the bridge was safe because the killer knew the girls were killed away from the bridge. Later when the video was known, stating he was on the bridge is now the rope he swings on. No amount of poor police work or bad recollections can change the fact that he was there.
Lots of people were there. Not one witness identified him in the courtroom. What's your point?
Even if he is guilty the amount of negligence and incompetence from the poor police work has left so much reasonable doubt that he can get away with it.
Exactly. I belive he's the guy.
😂
I still think they have the wrong person
I do too, it's Derrick and Kelsi, as why would she have a handfull of Kelsi,s hair with roots in one of the girls hands
@@noelinerenwick5347there was no handful it was literally 1 hair
@@lukefuller1936 no it wasnt
@@noelinerenwick5347 yes yes it was
Thank you all so much for your hard work and dedication to this case. This is the best news channel by far to get information. ❤
Excellent coverage
The legal analyst is excellent.
This is the ultimate game of clue. High stakes clue if you will
Idk. Im not sure. That’s reasonable doubt
Not really. If you were on the jury and sat through 20+ days of the trial and are saying "I don't know", that's ignorance and or laziness.. As a juror I think it is your responsibility to get sure and make a decision you can live with. He either did it or he didn't. Don't hang the jury because you can't say guilty or not guilty, or don't want to be held responsible.
@@jccrowder4063no. That's not laziness. If at the end of the trial a juror isn't sure then that means the state hasn't proven their case beyond reasonable doubt. If they had, the juror would be sure.
Reasonable? 😂
@@jccrowder4063 Thats a very naive comment. Clearly that’s reasonable doubt for some of them why is it taking four days? You must not watch many trials. Maybe you dont pay attention at all if you do watch them. That’s laziness.
@@Michiganmegs "I'm not sure." in and of itself does not qualify as reasonable doubt. It does however show an inability and or unwillingness to reach a decisive conclusion based on the information presented. "I'm not sure." is not an option. Guilty or not guilty. Stand up and say it with conviction in front of the defendant and the victims families in a public forum and you will have fulfilled your responsibility as a juror.
Free that man
If a picture is worth a 1000 words, how much is a video worth? If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, & quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
If you hear a quack but you can't see the duck is there really a duck? Or duck hunter? The point I'm trying to make is if you can't tell how can you be 100% sure?
Well the duck is Ron Logan
@@moisesmontecillo7570 hope you are never on a jury my friend
@@Digitalgems9000 what do you mean? Is it really that wrong to question something?
I wanna see, hear the entire video!!
People are forgetting that Kelsi Germans DNA was found in hair(s) entangled in Abby’s hand!! Richard Allen’s DNA was NOT found at the crime scene nor at his home and belongings! Kelsi needs to be looked into much further than she’s already been!
Kelsi gave her sister her jumper. She was 17 then and you are a despicable human for putting those ugly thoughts out there. But I guess you think RA is innocent as well? How dare you put that shit out there after all the family have been through. Imagine it happening to you just for a minute but I assume your 1 brain cell is overworked
@@johannawigg6921
Kelsi gave her sister Libby her jumper. Hairs fall out easily all the time. Abby had that jumper on because she was dressed in Libby’s clothes. There you go, there’s no conspiracy behind it at all. Kelsi was 17 at the time and the sisters were very close. I get so upset when nut cases blame Kelsi, but RA who admitted being there, dressed in those clothes, spent cartridge found under a shoe, who lost his phone from 2017 but had every other one, could not be the killer. Use your critical thinking skills. Lots of killers don’t leave DNA. Scott Peterson received the death penalty and there was no DNA. Circumstantial evidence tells a story you just have to be smart enough to put it together
@@johannawigg6921
For me it can happen really easily. I’m looking at a hair tie of mine with heaps of hair in it. It was only 2 strands. Sometimes I find a hair in a clean hoodie of mine. I really don’t think there’s anything nefarious in the hair. They both had longish hair too.
As for Abby, the blood expert said it was very unusual for Abby to have no blood on her hands when they weren’t restrained. The only conclusion he gave was he believed Abby was unconscious at time of death. This case is simple for me but I understand people not believing the confessions etc. I believe them because the evidence points to RA and I believe when he told Kathy and his mother, he was calm and had found god. He wanted to tell them so badly but they just kept telling him he didn’t do it. I think that sent him crazy. He was trying to repent IMO. He was only ‘crazy’ when it suited him
Waaaah waaaaah I love the killer waaaah waaaah waaah
@@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724 small town girl with a small town brain
please let this man go! we all know the truth
Oh shut up
I'm watching from Sweden 🇸🇪 and this is by far the best reporting available. Plus all the knowledge in the studio. Can't give you a Nobel prize, but a 👍💯
Let's focus on the corruption that led to a guy being arrested put on trial for murder without conclusive evidence. Six Carroll County girls were murdered in 3 months. Four were black and two were white. Immediately after the white girls were murdered, a national tip line and multi-agency Delphi task force was set up. The 4 murdered black girls who knew the Delphi girls were excluded from the tip line and task force investigation. Race was used to determine which of the 6 female child murders would be investigated. Discrimination is illegal. The intent of using race to decide what murders would be investigated resulted in 4 murders not being investigated and that's obstruction of justice.
The FBI got involved because they were already in town. Why? On the police scanner you can hear the CC sheriff saying "keep the FBI back" after the bodies were found.
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Several suspicious deaths around this case. Evidence of attempted cover up in the Flora fires. Ongoing harassment of anyone asking questions. Paid more than $50k legal fees to keep Flora 911 calls sealed.
Is it Justice and Is Today The Day .. if wrong person?
No its not
They drove Allen insane....can he ever even recover ?
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Wait what? He has a history of it and his Dr said he was faking it fir attention off his family
Who else could’ve done this but Richard Allen? The killer was bridge guy, or wasn’t it? The bridge guy was Richard Allen, or wasn’t it? He placed himself on the bridge that day and was wearing the same clothing as bridge guy, right? It makes sense that, when he was through, he walked on County Road to get to his car parked at the CPS building, right? His unspent bullet is a match to his gun, but how unique are the markings on the unspent bullet? This case is maddening.
But the prosecution disproved their own theory about the bullet by having to fire the gun. Also Allen said he racked the gun on the bridge and lost a casing.. How does that bullet appear between the girls?
@ I didn’t know there was evidence that RA said he racked it on the bridge.
@slaws2279 that was in his numerous "confessions"
Wasn‘t RAs wife supposed to also take the witness stand about some google searches from RAs account?
So many are unsure! I hope they don’t convict the wrong guy letting the real culprit(s) get away with a double murder of two young girls! That would be awful to know the real killer(s) are still in our community, walking free to do it again! I just feel so upset for the girls and their families. We all want Justice but is there any to be found ever in this case?? This is far too important of a case to screw up and unfortunately, that’s what they’ve done from the beginning- letting down the girls, their families/loved ones and us, the community.
Praying for those girls and their families. ❤
And for Justice to really be served no matter what!
I'm also going to miss those reporters and the legal expert! I really wonder who the families of Abby and Libby think is the killer, if they believe RA is guilty or not. I feel that justice will not be served.
I love love LOVE how you two finish each other's words/sentences🤣🤣 usually that would be annoying but you two are like cute twins talking about something😅
Sounds like the judge is bending the law , allowing the jury to deliberate in the court room because the jury room is small.
I still wonder if kegan Kline and his daddy had been involved in these murders. I am just not sure about Richard allen😮
Or Elvis Fields who confessed to his sister the next day, is in prison for abducting another little girl, but was deemed too emotionally challenged by LE?
Or the person who owns the white van... or the person on whose property they were found who lied about his alibi...
So many more likely suspects.
I truly believe more people are involved.
@@snippetsordinarylifeAbsolutely! Were these people investigated thoroughly???
@@snippetsordinarylife RA is BG
This case reminds me of the unsolved Grimes sisters murders in Chicago.
Maybe I am imagining this but the man walking on the bridge seems to have a very distinct gait..why hasen't anyone analysed this?
Didn't the bridge have large spaces between each wooden plank?
Libby gave us who took their lives.
He told LE what he was wearing that day and it matches the clothes in the video she took when terrified bc she knew it wouldn't end well
All the rest Is only what a good defense lawyer does...I hope this jury sees thru that and really sees what libby gave them...
His voice and the video with the man in clothing HE says he wore.
Call me simple but it's strong enuf for me.
Whew, thank you reporters for standing around waiting. And thank you to the courthouse staff for letting everyone use the bathrooms. I'm sure you guys have been inundated with work, especially the grounds and cleaning staff.
Brad Weber looks like the first sketch
No matter what, I don't think this is over and IT in this case.
Apple/Android IT experts should have been brought in to evaluate Libby’s phone. Not some “expert” testifying from a Google search🙄
And why in the H*LL did a small town LE agency cut ties with the FBI so early on??? Big mistake…this should have been solved early on, balls were dropped, millions have been spent because some arrogant law enforcement agency let their pride and over confidence run the FBI off. With 1000’s of leads coming in there was NO way local LE could handle this unspeakably heinous crime.! Those little girls/young ladies deserve better than this!! And so do their families and friends!! The pain and unspeakable suffering they have faced for years not having answers is Infuriating🥲
Seems like they are not taking the confessions seriously.
I’m afraid not
As they shouldnt.
why should they???
Ive been watching this channel from Ireland...im gonna miss watching these two reporters when this case is over. They have done one fantastic job covering this sad case! 👏
Justice for Abby and Libby 🙏❤️
Let JUSTICE! continue to prevail it's just a BREATH! away🙏🙏💙🦋💜
Innocent
Stupid
Imbecile.
They can only return a verdict of guilty or not guilty. They can't declare him innocent.
@@AJMacDonaldJr Not Guilty is the same as Innocent.
He is innocent but Elvis Fields is not. He should be the one on trial here.
36 law enforcement agencies? Geez, how much police needs to exist? So much tax money.
I wonder if the girls parents still feel that RA did this after hearing the testimony of everyone. I’ve always thought he did it and after the trial I still believe he is guilty, but many people have changed their mind about his guilt. I just pray the jury gets it right.
My question. It's such a small town. Who else could have done it?
My question is, since the video has been out so long, why did no one in the community say, "oh my goodness, that's the guy at CVS."? It's a really small community. If it was him, I think someone would have recognized him on the video. Doesn't make sense to me that it's him.
@@AbbyJohnson-i3gAND the CVS is located on the same main street as the police department 😮 just a few doors away 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
This is senseless!!!
Lots of tips were called in about Bridge guy and none were called in about RA.
My prayers 🙏 Abbey and Lizzy I really hope you have the justice sweetheart’s ❤ ❤
Libby*
I believe RA is bridge guy. I believe his confessions. Even if he's found not guilty, his life is over. He'll never live this down as a free man or incarcerated.
NO HEADPHONES FOUND?
I just saw the crime scene photos on Facebook. Someone sent them to me. They are horrific.
He covered himself and ate his own shit, the guy most likely DID do it. He must of said something in his confessions only the killer would know
he did that bc he was tortured and told he was a murderer
@kater3058 I don't believe it, the jury have seen things we haven't, I hope the right decision is made either way, he confessed to his family not authorities, if he had then I'd say he was tortured, which he wasn't, he's in jail under suspicion he murdered 2 young girls, he had to be fully kept away from the normal population or they would kill him.
Did they ever find the clothes that Richard Allen's wife said he had? The ones that matched bridge guy?
Yes and they found no blood evidence and none in his car either.
Bridge guy is a created photo. He does not exist.
I mean, this isn't technically true. The walk isn't real. It's a real man though. I feel like it probably is Ricky Allen but it doesn't mean he committed the crime, does it. That 43 second video shows him in the background and then a voice coming from behind the girls. Him being on that bridge is meaningless and I don't understand why they went with the theory that the guy was the killer. @@HJcillie
Richard Allen is a monster. Even he could not believe his luck not being caught sooner. That is the fault of LE. No police department is perfect, mistakes are made. That does not take away from the fact that he is GUILTY. Hope the jury sees it too.
Exactly!
A monster? He suddenly became a monster at 45? All whilst real monsters with more evidence against them are excused?
No evidence, reasonable doubt. LE certainly botched this case but the true monsters are still on the loose. No justice unless the real monsters are caught. This is a travesty of justice.
Really? You’re a monster for presuming guilt. You’re prob a liberal too.
Police aren't the experts. Yet defense attorneys go after them like Crazy. They should all know crime scene 101. Don't touch anything. I know aLOT are corrupt outright dumb,how do reports get lost. Should never happen.
I LOVE Katie Jackson-Lindsey!💖
Allen is almost certainly guilty. I implore you to follow the *facts* of the case, and not the drooling nutbars spouting insane conspiracy theories. These are the facts of the case:
1.) Richard Allen placed himself at the bridge and on the trails at the same time the girls were there, and also said he was wearing the same clothes as Bridge Guy.
2.) A witness put him on the first platform at the same time he put himself on the platform. Then the same witness, when she was leaving, saw Abby and Libby walking toward the bridge (whereon bridge guy was standing).
3.) Every witness who saw Bridge Guy said he was the same person who is in the Bridge Guy video.
4.) Allen said he saw three girls. Three girls said they saw the guy in the Bridge Guy video.
5.) Allen said he was on his cell phone at the bridge, looking at a stock ticker. There's no cell phone data corroborating this. Either he had his phone off, or he left his phone home. Why?
6.) The police found 20 cell phones at his house, except then phone he had in 2017, when the girls were murdered. Odd.
7.) He confessed over 60 times, including to his wife and mother. Perhaps this could be written off if he hadn't given the detail about the white van spooking him. The white van that spooked Allen is corroborated by the man who drove the van, as he put himself at the scene the same time Allen said he was with the girls. And no, he couldn’t have known about the white van as know one knew about it at the time of his confession. It was NOT on the discovery.
8.) Bridge Guy's voice sounds like Allen's voice.
9.) The ejected cartridge had marks that matched Allen's gun.
10.) The wounds on Abby and Libby's throats looked like they were done by a box cutter. Richard Allen admitted to slashing their throats with a box cutter in one of his confessions.
11.) He admitted to parking at the CPS building, and his car was seen at the CPS building.
How anyone sees him as anything but guilty is beyond my understanding. Some nutty people are going to great lengths to defend this child m*rd*r*r. Completely insane. Allen is Bridge Guy. Bridge Guy abducted the girls. Allen confessed to being Bridge Guy, admitted to killing them, and described details only he could have known. He killed those poor girls.
This 💯
Because he said he was wearing the jacket do you know if they ever got that off him and tested it? Do we know if him going to the bridge was a regular thing or why he said he was there that day? Seems odd for a grown man who doesn’t look like someone who goes for walks would do that? Do we know if any of this has been brought up? I’m from Australia so I may have missed a lot.
Incorrect information.
@@HeyTezza The police took several items of clothing from his house, but they didn't serve the warrant until 5 years after the murders. By that time, all traces of blood would have been gone. And yes, he went to the bridge regularly. Knew the place quite well. If I remember correctly, both the jacket, and the fact that he frequented the trails, were brought up during the trial.
. Nope. Absolutely correct information.
Bob posted more about it someone leaving a cup than the civil rights violations in this case lol.
Your irrelevant he's had due process stop crying supreme Court said no violations
I have no pets but I love this commercial.
Can someone please tell me which girl is Abbi, is she the smaller sized girl than Liberty
Yes. Abby is more petite with reddish hair
@islesofshoals3551 did anyone testify to seeing these 2 particular young ladies there. Reddish hair should click.
GUILTY! Enough with the circus!
Do you not find it strange that every single media outlet with people who studied law say he should be found not guilty, but wait. @bambinaforever1402 says he's guilty and makes no elaboration. Grow up
I’d like to know how convicting and obviously innocent man is justice for Libby, Abby and their families
I have my doubts, i just cant make up my mind , i think he is then his not.
He’s guilty, the video of him is dead on him, that’s how the victims let us know who murdered them
Bridgestone guy looks like the land owner where the Girls were found..
He died of covid so know we have allan
@ the landowner was old the video is RA not the landowner anyone should be able to see that
Come on, people. Come on! It's him.
Good report. I know golden ticket holders can go in and use the bathrooms. But, can the public (people in line like tubers) use the bathrooms as well?? Or does Judge Gull dislike them so much that she also makes them suffer from basic human needs. After all, she doesn’t even allow them water in court. Don’t get me wrong. I agree with all of Gull’s rulings. I just don’t care for her treatment of the public.
The presenters should look at the camera and not at each other.
I feel so sad bc either way as I’ve stated before I don’t know if we are getting justice for Libby & Abby right now. There is way too much reasonable doubt. If he really is innocent how awful it would be to be locked up one more day as an innocent man. Also that would mean the sicko is still out there & how scary is that?! Either a free man is a killer or a man losing his freedom should not be there. My gut just doesn’t feel like anything is right in this case unfortunately 😢
These two journalists' work has been exceptional. Thank you for your hard work.
imho I truly don't believe Richard Allen is guilty and i hope he goes free, there isn't enough circumstantial evidence to accuse him, and there was so much shady stuff around his arrest and treatment. Abby, Libby and their families deserve justice and that doesn't mean convicting an innocent man to be over with it.
Footage shows him clearly
I’m going to miss you all!!!! Thank you for keeping us all informed with actual facts!!! I wish you all the best in your future endeavors ❤❤❤❤❤
By reading these comments can tell people who have not followed since beginning. People going around talking with no knowledge of the facts.
No one cares about your opinions.
He did it. Get over yourselves.
What facts?? Lmfao the ones law enforcement blatantly lied about while on the stand. Talk about following since the beginning! This is pathetic you have no knowledge of the facts you’re just going with the narrative. Do the research instead of just listening to something and agreeing with it bc it “sounds” good. Evidence tells the story not lies.
RA had 19 devices taken from his house. The phone he had during the crime he got rid of? Suddenly the only phone that could clear him of any wrong doing he decided to get rid of it.
They got his information from the phone. It didn't fit the narrative and they didn't find anything that they could use against him so they didn't bring it up. The fbi never even had RA as a suspect.
Even if his phone is missing, the contacts he supposedly contacted should have his messages as proof...funny Kelsi's phone was never extracted or taken...that's a huge suspect red flag..
He allowed the detective in the days following when he voluntarily told them he'd been there to take his phone and look at it, and that person cleared him. I also have a stack of old phones I haven't recycled or done anything with, except the one I had for 2 years beginning 7 years ago.ira not because I am hiding a crime but because I shattered the screen so I had it recycled.
Guilty af
Nope. Not his hair. Not his d an a tuch. Not the one who gave them a ride . Not his anything because he didn't do it
Yeah, I think evidence has proven guilt, too.
They haven't proven the case. Just because you wanna see allen hang doesn't mean they proved the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
They have zero of Allen's DNA or the girls DNA anywhere. No murder weapon.
The bullet is bs they are saying that someone who buys the same exact model gun with the same size chamber couldn't possibly leave the same marks, which the round being unspent, would only be touched by the extractor, since the chamber holds no rifling and the rim is the only part of the casing to touch the chamber? There is no way to possibly, ever, get close match marking from a different firearm or the same model? Yeah.. You are wrong. If I have two factory machined 2016 Ruger American pistols, they will both leave near identical, if any, extraction marks on a round. Especially if they are steel.
They have no actual evidence, his confessions are bs and he had the therapist woman involved in the case online feeding him information. This case stinks of corruption
Not Guilty
Not guilty. Far more likely suspects around
That sketch looks as much like RA as BG does. No justice for these girls, just more exploitation. Shameful.
Three victims whilst the murderers go free
The fbi reported that Ron Logan was the bridge guy and the voice on Libbys phone was that of Ron Logan. Elvis Fields murdered the girls
If he walks he wont walk for long lol
#JusticeForAbbyAndLibby💜🩵
Unfortunately, they may never receive justice. The fact that there’s TH-camrs blaming their family members 🤦🏻♀️
Where's the blond beauty from earlier.
2nd day 🤦🏻♀️ 😢
unfortunately it’s going to be a hung jury, sorry Libby your video was for nothing! People don’t care about you or Abby, in fact they call your video a lie. Oh and they blame your family! Sorry girls! ❤️
Rachelle why don't u just wear it on your head😅
Where all the Richard Allen 🤡's at?
Right here front and center
@blackhawku 1.
Here.. hey..
@@Cookiesedits3562 2.
We're circling the clowns who are out on a witch hunt to pin it on an innocent man
PEOPLE!, He put himself on the bridge, voluntarily at the RGT time,,,,What else do you need to know,,,HES GUILTY
You don't seriously call that evidence do you???
@ seriously??? Yes I do ! He put himself there! What else do you need. Him to tell you he did it? Oh wait he did that too. !
Okay so what about all the other people who put themselves there in that timeframe?
@pinklait is evidence backed by others