I’m old enough to remember ireland doing a lap of honour when we beat the wallabies in a stormy Lansdowne rd. it was the first time since once the 70’s. We thought we’d be telling our grandkids about it. We’ve come a very long way in an organise consistent manner. So I for one will be keeping the faith
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@@briancurtis5796 Good on you man. I am a Blacks man but you have to support your team and roll with the punches that come. Ireland have come through the Blacks a few times and deserve the win, this is rugby and I’m not in the slightest salty about it! The best team wins! Love your attitude brother 👍
@@ClutchRugbyXV Yeah I’m doing good man 😎 cheers for the props on the comment as well 👍 I always like talking to guys or hearing others opinions - about any topic really - as long as they are genuine, respect others comments, and are just decent people. Sadly it’s becoming more and more uncommon as people think their opinion is thoroughly correct and get hostile when people discuss it with them. Meh…make the best of the genuine people around bro 👍
I think what gets missed here and in discussion of the “quarter final hoodoo” is that until 2015, a QF was a solid showing for Ireland, we were never a consistently top 4 team in the world until Schmidt took over.
Indeed, but what you are forgetting is that Wales, Scotland and Argentina have achieved a win at the QF stage at least once and their records as consistent top 4 teams is nothing to write home about. The fact is, there are different reasons each world cup which explains Ireland's failure. Sometimes a QF showing was reflective of their level, while other times they were either badly prepared or lacked the depth to go deep in the competition. Ireland were undoubtedly unlucky not to knock out Australia in 1991, losing at the death; perhaps again 2015 when so many players were injured in after pool stages. In 2023 Ireland were simply beaten by a better team on the day, and could have actually won the game. Ireland will eventually break their quarter final hoodoo. Its just a matter of time.
@@taintabird23Wales have an excellent Rugby record historically what are you on about, or have you just watched Rugby for the past 5 years? Just cos Wales are on a down at the moment they were well worth their second WC semi final in 2011and should have been in the final, they also should have been in the semi last WC but blew it Irish style. As for the Six Nations Wales are joint with England as most successful team.
@@aldozilli1293 Welsh rugby was great historically, but it has not adapted well to the professional set up, for reasons best explained by the Welsh themselves. They are highly inconsistent this century: while they have won more 6 Nations grand slams than Ireland, they have also won the wooden spoon twice. They have a won much fewer 6 Nations games than Ireland, and have a terrible record against SH sides in recent decades. They topped the World rankings once, for a week, but are usually found in the lower reaches of the top ten. Welsh clubs have done nothing at European level at little at URC level. The Welsh have been in decline for a long time, but it has only become obvious in the last couple of years.
No reason why Ireland can’t win 2027 RWC.They have the players coaches structures clubs fans skill and tenacity.They can beat any side on any given day.They just need a bit of luck.🇿🇦
Oh Ireland 🇮🇪 you beautiful beastie you. The flak, the trolling, the hatred, the jealousy. People dont waste this on bad teams. I only got into irish rugby properly in 2021 and what time to get into it. They really rocked the world with how they play. Its great for the game. Fast, fluid, sparkling champagne rugby at times. The players are just so damn charismatic - frawley, pom, sheehan, hansen, lowe, jgp, bundi, cd, jvdf etc etc. Im dying for the autumn games. They make rugby very fun to watch for people who know nothing about it, ive seen it a million times and thats really important for the game. Be looking forward to the next couple of years.
Ireland had never beaten nz until 2016 and in 2022 they kicked their ass in their own backyard winning an entire series. Don't count Ireland out quite yet they have arguably the best talent selection programme in the world only put in place around 15 years ago. They're getting better and better year on year and shouldn't be overlooked.
@taraishot100 I wouldn't call a 4 point victory on neutral soil an ass kicking especially considering how that game was reflected, but showing the ABs up on their own home turf by more then ten points in back to back games causing the whole of NZ to turn their backs on Foster calling for him to be replaced which subsequently happened, now that's "ass kicked"
From a NZr.. don’t listen to the noise, Ireland are the real deal. You have to be well and truly biased or South African to say they aren’t 😂 the only thing holding them back is that Quarterfinal hoodoo.. once they break that. They’ll be on another level. Their time will come.
I have mad respect for the Irish and what theyve accomplished but i wish people would stop saying they are unlucky. They got outplayed on the day of each of these quarter-finals and unfortunately for them, after the first 4 failed attempts, it becomes a tapking point and then their own "voodoo" is that every world cup, the big questions seems to be "will they finally break that drought?" .... the 2023 world cup was more about "Ireland are good enough to win" which is true, they were, but once again, all the media focussed on was their record of never passing the quarter-finals and they came up against a team who had something to prove, a previous record of making every semi-final stage or better (bar 2007 of course) and had multiple former World Cup winners on their team who have been there and done it. The draw was tainted from the start for Ireland at this years world cup. The one year they are on top of the world and theyd have to face the world number 2, South Africa and the world number 5 Scotland in the same group and then either number 3cor number 4 France or New Zealand in the quarter-finals. On their day, ireland can beat any of these top teams and we know that because they have! They just get outplayed by a stronger team kn that day, thats all it is.
I think we were unlucky in 2019/2023 to get new zealand . If we got someone else those years we might have got a good build up to the final. But yes not good enough on the day too many times.
@DylanSyllabeu from what I can remember there were a few players rated 99 or 98 so BOD was one of the highest The guys I remember being 99 or 98 were Carter, Mccaw, Wilkinson, Williams, Umaga, Spencer, Burger I could be missing some names there but those are the ones I can remember off the top of my head. BOD just had everything in the game though. Pace, power, could step well and break tackles easily pretty similar to the things he did in real life actually
@@stiofain88 I wasn't talking money I was talking rugby ability Yes, the SH consists of 3 small economy nations and Australia where rugby is a tiny broke sport
@@rajivmurkejee7498 Rugby ability is extremely important. So is the ability to keep that talent from going to Rugby League as the case is in Australia, Japan as is the case with New Zealand and Europe as is the case with South Africans.
Its a pity because in 2023 we beat the eventual winners. We came very close to beating new zealand. It was a clear sign we are top 4 but it will go down as another qf defeat
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Nah they weren't unlucky. They were cocky and "won" the cup before even playing. It was just a lesson in humbleness. There's a fine line between confident and cocky
Well, when you consider the RWC is held at a time of the year that suits the Southern Hemisphere, it is not surprising only one NH side has won the RWC.
Ireland did NOT enter the 2019 tournament as one of the favourites. Not even close lol They were written off after their abysmal campaign in that year’s six nations, where Wales had achieved a grand slam. Fun video, though!
@@kokorice123 2nd or third, Rugby in Ireland is 4th, with a population of 5 million, of course I have a point. They also kicked ass in the olympics compared to South Africa 😂
@@foreignwarren7361although the AB's first sport is rugga, they have less ppl than you and do much better at rugby, cricket and Olympics than you blokes, what does that make you.
@@foreignwarren7361 it may be your 4th favorite but you're still butthurt that you have to mention it along with the Olympics 🤣 by the way I ain't from SA
There a fantastic side and just beat SA at home something our ABs couldn’t do there no 2 in the world and I think there gonna do it this world why not . Look at the ABs records getting smashed week in week out and who saw that coming . Superbly coached Ireland and I’m a big fan of there ruthless style. Sorry just not a fan of Sexton my 2 pennys
If they stay in the top 4 consistently then they have many semis and finals ahead of them. Always have been tough to beat in Ireland but only in the last 3 years or so winning in SA and NZ.
In the past we choked however at the last World Cup we didn't New Zealand just had that perfect game where they made zero errors and Ireland played brilliantly. It's genuinely the first quarter final where we haven't choked we lost the game because NZ were amazing on the day not because we were awful.
Most of the QF we lost, through not choking. We were beaten by better teams, or we just didn't have the depth of players. In 1991, were were incredibly unlucky.
It’s also worth noting that Ireland had easily the worst draw of any team in 23. France: play NZ, then 3 easy matches to QF. NZ: same (except they played France) SA: Scotland, Ireland, Tonga and a break before QF Ireland: 2 easy games, then SA, Scotland and a 6 day gap before QF. The fact that Ireland came so close is actually amazing given the schedule.
@@subbie5498 and if Ireland had beaten NZ, it would have been NZ, Arg, SA. The knockout stages are always brutal. My point was that Ireland had the hardest run INTO the knockout stages. The Boks deserved that RWC, no doubt. But it would have been great to stop fucking hearing about QFs 😁
Ireland had two good teams going into the 2019 and 2023 rwcs but couldn't progress . Thats hard for them and their fans as they are a good side but its tournament rugby and there is a fine line between defeat and victory . Boks were worthy champions but they scrapped past England, it happens Ireland have developed into one of the top sides in rugby and i have no doubt they will break their hoodoo and do well in the next rwc
Same problem afflicted the 1990-2002 golden generation Republic of Ireland soccer team, reaching quarters as one of the top teams in the world but never breaking the glass ceiling. I am hopeful for 2027.
Yeah and Ireland only started to get competitive from rugby from 2000 onwards, they generally get better every years from then, apart from the World Cup of course
Ireland are just not good enough. To be expected when they've only recently become a tier 1 nation. Can't call yourself number 1 of you've never won the WC.
Well said. Ireland have come through my Blacks a couple times, but they do not have the juice to go through for a WC. This narration is hugely biased towards making Ireland look like they are a lot stronger than they are as well.
@@TheCaptain001oh bollocks you cry babies, to think Ireland never has a chance of winning the World Cup is just you being scared of a side that has improved massively and continually defied the odds, with the system the IRFU has set Ireland are very likely to win a world cup in the next 20 years
Beat South Africa in WC and recently beat them at home,which NZ failed to do twice 😂 of course they are good enough...they just have a psychological hurdle to get over in WCs.
What they are missing is consistency when it counts. They are a class outfit. But the RWC is a test of attrition and when you facing any of the top best 6 teams it can go anyway.
@@John-mi2rt They 'couldn't beat' a team they didn't even face in the tournament they won? They 'couldn't beat' a team they narrowly lost toin a pool-stage dead rubber? If your rugby is as good as your logic, no wonder you've won f*ck all.
@@davesmith826 'dead rubber' was it? Lol rubbish. Ireland could have very easily conspired with Scotland to knock South Africa out. All because of that defeat. Chumps
Those believing Ireland aren't good enough are smelling their socks. They are alongside the Boks, Englang, NZ and France real contenders, and it is inevitable they will get to a final soon.
Irland is not a good rugby team. SA lost against japan once. Doesnt mean japan is good. Irland mostly plays against nortern teams. They are not above SA NZ ARG or ENG. They are like france.
France are clearly the unluckiest team, three defeats in the final, whilst Ireland continually crumble in the Quarters. Also Ireland have only really been good since BOD came onto the scene, whilst France, England, Wales and Scotland have traditionally been the NH heavyweights.
When there's an Ireland video you can guarantee there's an army of Saffas there to talk shit. Shame that the constant online trolls ruin the good experience I've had with them otherwise
yh, it‘s their ingrained smallman syndrome that‘s in desperate panic to try and remind themselves who‘s the supposed stronger party by lobbing all sorts of claims on passers-by
You know, people, Saffas mostly, really like to rub it in about out misfortune, but I think they've forgotten the difficulty that we had to manage with having to play New Zealand in the last 2x WC quarter finals. I think they shouldn't be smug about it as much as they want to be, because clearly they forget it's New Zealand. It's not against some lesser team we know. It's the team that's won it 3x times. That's the definition of a mental challenge Ireland has to cope with anytime they're in the tournament, because they get a very unlucky situation of facing a tough team, even when they do well. It also shows how broken the scheduling is in terms of rankings and seedings for the pools, as they're done way too early. Teams like Wales and England have it a LOT easier with who they get, and 2023 was no exception.
Saffers have won the world cup 4 times and yet missed out on 2 world cups during apartheid era. That's a 50% winning margin. Every time they have reached the final they have won , twice against the All Blacks . If you are talking about a team that has mental strength regarding on the big stage it would be the Springboks.
Superb summary Mr Clutch. The first 15 were always in with a shout ,the last 20 years. Too much of a gap between the first team and the second team. Why was a 50 year old Johnny Sexton first choice in 23? 🙂 He should have been brought on with 15 min to go against NZ.
Ireland has a population of around 5.2 million. Rugby union is the third most popular sport there behind soccer and gaelic football. By all accounts, Ireland have punched well above their weight on the Rugby stage and have shown a steady and consistent rise in their performances in the last 8 years. They are not the yo yo team of the past (Like the current Pumas). I certainly wouldnt say they're the unluckiest team, as none of their losses were really due to errors or bad luck in play and most of their QF losses were convincing losses by 10 points or more. Whatever they're doing in Ireland seems to be working. They just need to keep recycling youth talent, keeping those consistent high competitive performances and they'll be knocking on that WC door.
The Irish rugby team represents a population of SEVEN MILLION PEOPLE. Incredibly, people forget Northern Ireland when talking about the population the Irish team represents. Irish rugby has been on a upward trajectory since Brian O'Driscoll's three tries in Paris in 2000. It is constantly, if slowly, improving all the time. It will one day result in Ireland winning a rugby world cup.
2019 was a choke. Beat the AB's twice inside a year and then totally fluffed it in the quarters. 2023 I wouldn't classify as a choke, as Ireland played an absolutely magnificent game of rugby... But New Zealand just edged them. From 1987 to 2015 Ireland simply wasn't good enough to reach the semis. No choking there.
Nobody were called the Irish chokers until Steve Hansen introduced it as part of the gamesmanship ahead of the World Cup. Before Hansen cast a slur on the Irish character, the Irish were told they didn't have he depth to win a world cup.
@@randomlyfactual1943They could have won in 2011 but underestimated Wales and in 2015 could have won but for the fact they lost their star players to injury. They came close in 1991 and 2023. The real chokes were in 2007 when they did not make it out of their group and in 1999 when they lost a playof and losing in 2011 after topping their group.They got blown away in 1987, 2003 and 2019.
This current crop is a well drilled unit, that has been the benchmark for the past two years ,unlucky with the W C draw {unlike sth Africa} , but that's the nature of a tournament, the best team doesn't always win it....
I have an idea why Ireland don't seem to get ahead when all stats seem to suggest they should. It's because they are sprinters not marathon runners. If you look at their tournaments they take part in either as Leinster or as Ireland they start out of the blocks really quickly and catch the opposition by surprise but more often than not they run out of steam towards the back end of the game. Usually around 60 minutes, they relinquish their hold on the game because they are exhausted, they don't properly pace themselves particularly against heavier and more durable oppositions and when the stakes are higher. They need to get a few pace setters in their team to manage them better and help them to apply some game play styles that will keep them slower at times. Teams like ABs and Springboks put a lot of focus on set pieces which help players to catch their breaths, and slow down the game so they can rest. A game is better played when all facets of the game are utilised. Don't be backs focussed since they tend to get exhausted but give your forwards some work time so that your backs can rest. I almost get the impression Ireland are like the ABs of old. Too much pace in RWC and focus on scoring tries but forget defence is crucial. Are they continually playing catch up?
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Ireland has never beaten the all blacks before 2016 and now we are often favourites when we play them, I believe we can win a World Cup based on that alone, times will change
Ireland just keep being unlucky in that they lose to great teams. Only part of this whole premise I will entertain is the last World Cup the draw against as screwing two of the 4 best teams. And in that tournament they had as good a chance as the other 3.
From 1987 to 2007, Ireland simply wasn't consistent enough with their performances. In 2011 they did achieve a famous win over Australia at a world cup, but fell apart against Wales. 2015 Ireland again simply wasn't good enough. In 2019 they would have fancied their chances against NZ but imploded spectacularly. Then we get to 2023. Ireland did not choke in that match; it was a brilliant match between two brilliant teams and one of them had to win. Ireland will one day beat the hoodoo if they continue on the path they are on. They have a very good squad full of talent across the park. They just need a luckier draw to break the semis.
@@taintabird23 That is the challenge you face. When you have a generational talent like a Wilkinson, a Carter or an O'Driscoll, you want to play them as often as you can. Problem is, that given the physical demands of the sport, you have them at their peak for roughly a decade and you can lose them at any time during that period. So you lose guys like O'Driscoll, O'Gara, D'Arcy and then your chosen replacements have no game time.
The Irish are world beaters when it suits them but victims of misfortune if things goes the other way. No one would give the Irish stick of they actually got on with rugby instead of talking so much.
That doesn't seem to be the case in the real world. Back on planet earth, when a New Zealander or an English commentator claims that the Irish are the best team in the world right now, South Africans blame the Irish for it. South Africans have a serious problem with the Irish. It seems the subject of an internet commentary can be about anything, and a South African will bring up the Irish. The country is traumatised by their Irish experience. Incidentally, South Africans are world beaters when it suits them, but the victims of bad refereeing or cheating opposition when things go the other way. In fact, losing can even be part of some Rassie master plan!
@@ciaranbrk good point. In rugby, the favourites tag always carries a lot of weight and pressure. I think it will help Ireland too if they are not over hyped going in and the expectation is not there for them to definitely win the game. They have the players and coaches to make it that far.
On their day any of the current top 4 teams in the world can pip the other. There isn't much between them at the moment. Will be interesting to see if the chasing pack of England, Argentina, Australian, Wales and Scotland can close the gap on SA, NZ, Ireland and France
England, yes. Argentina, yes. Australia, in a few years. Scotland and Wales, no. You can also put France outside your top 4. They aren't any good outside of the Six Nations and their first choice players never go on tours.
@randomlyfactual1943 interesting perspective but I think France are right up there they've got decent depth in most positions and I think they'll keep building leading up to 2027
@@Dkouts France has a few major problems facing them: 1) Their domestic league is by far the longest and most arduous. 2) Their domestic league is also too rich. The fact that they get guys from SA, Fiji, Georgia into their club teams means French players are not getting as much time to shine. Our local competition, while not being nearly as rich, produces 100% home grown lads. So while French guys are being kept out of their teams by our guys, we keep on producing some top class players. 3) due to the length of their domestic season, France doesn't tour with their best team. This means that their supposed best players never get game time outside of Europe. Their best player, Antoine Dupont only has 24 minutes of rugby outside the Northern Hemisphere. They couldn't beat us in their own backyard in 2023 and I think expecting them to perform in Australia in 2027 when they've never even been there is going to be too much to ask. What say you?
I definitely agree with all the points you make there. I think a cornerstone of SA rugby being so strong atm is that our domestic rugby gives opportunity to local players in testing situations. The French sides are filled with foreign players and there's so many teams so it's less likely that they get combinations together from domestic level transitioning into international level. They've got the dupont ntamack combo sure but you need those combos, that chemistry is so important. I've always been suprised that france doesn't take stronger touring sides. Like their touring side for the incoming series this year was very weak and the team needs time to gel. In saying that I highly rate their top players. They are world class. Outside of Dupont guys like Ramos, Penaud, Ollivon and Alldritt are top tier however if they lose those guys the replacements aren't on the same level and we saw that with Ntamack and Jalibert so I think if they can get a bit more depth and their best 15 stay fit they're a real problem.
@@Dkouts Agree on all points. If I may expand a bit: you know how good France has been in the past. Last team to beat New Zealand on tour, last team to beat New Zealand at Eden Park. Scored some famous victories against all the giants of the Southern Hemisphere. Regular 5/6 Nations champions. Three time world cup finalists, six time semi finalists - they did all this in the first seven tournaments! Since 2011 though, France has not been in a semi-final, not even in their own world cup. Also since 2011, they have only won the 6N once, in 2022. Now I'm sure there is a lot more that goes into it, but in my mind it is their domestic setup and their willingness to keep their own players out of their clubs in favour of players from other nationalities.
Ireland were definitely unlucky in the RWC, and I say that as a NZ AB fan. Ireland could have so easily beaten us. ABs were very lucky to beat Ireland. Ireland also showed SA that they could beat them on their recent tour. Ignore the Saffas as they take the prize at being worst rugby fans. Keep doing what you are doing Ireland. You are one heck of an opponent and all outside of South Africa hold you in high regard.
NZ have the most annoying fans, media and the most disgusting players. You fans are full of shit and expect to win all games, your media is bias and hates anyone *like SA* that don't play the same style rugby. The players like reece, richie frizell etc are all domestic abusers that beat woman. NZ, what a play to live if you're a woman
“Saffas take the prize at being the worst rugby fans” says the New Zealander whose country decides that the future of rugby is at stake whenever they lose
Well okay, but NZ fans take the title as the most entitled rugby fans, that insist rules have to change when things don't go their way and throw their toys around when home teams don't bow down to their pre-match dance.
@@ukuthulakhumalo6288 Ireland have been bombarded on their own rugby shows with Saffas. Same for the Australians. Same for the French. Saffas flood our NZ rugby channels as well with their derogatory comments. South Africans can’t even win with grace. Sad thing is they do it with arrogance. Most actual rugby lovers and true fans know that rugby has a problem with refereeing and inconsistencies… yet South Africa will play victim constantly while trolling every nation.
4:27 Just one small thing. Yes Ireland made it out of their group but they didn't play in the quarter finals. Rather, they made it to the playoffs in 1999 for a place in the quarter finals and eventually lost to Argentina in those playoffs.
Every Irish team has been better than the last one since the year 2000. Joe Shmidts 2018 team was supposedly the peak if you go back and look at what people said around that time. Andy Farrells team did what many thought was impossible and surpassed that team again. That fact leads me to believe this is the start of something not the beginning or the middle. The 2027 Ireland team will be better than the 2023 team.
I'm inclined to agree. Modern Irish rugby only began in 2000 with that win in Paris and BODs three tries, and has been incrementally improving slowly ever since. Every team is better than the last. Each team sets a new benchmark for Irish rugby. We're only at the start.
I think so too. I also think they're at a good place with the oldies, mid of the road and newbie players coming up. Also, and I hate to say it, Johnny sexton retiring is good for the team. He was too old for that world cup, or rather, to be playing every game in that world cup. Playing him against Romania was....insane.
Agreed. Safa here. The rankings mean nothing. They had the wole world fooled that they are nr 1. Not even close. I would say ARG are 3rd they are maybe 4th or 5th depending on ENG
Ireland's claim of being the best team in the world is based on a series win in New Zealand and a good string of results against the Boks. So they feel that they are at least lateral to two of the most successful rugbying nations. The rest of the world knows that this isn't good enough, and that Ireland are yet to be good enough to claim supremacy. This isn't about hating on Ireland - it's about dismantling their delusions. You haven't done near enough.
@@brianharvey9765 hah good god you people are insanely arrogant and delusional! Ireland are fully deserved of there continual world ranking heights as they continually prove they can beat the " best in the world" even on there own patch.. We don't consider ourselves the best rugby nation on earth at all nowhere near the history and legacy, we've only really embraced the game properly as a nation recently but that doesn't mean we can't mix it with the top boys now, and we clearly do! Don't be such a tosser!
A lot of the commentary about Ireland’s quarter final performances seems to miss the fact that Ireland were a bad team in the 1990s, finishing either last or second last in every 5 nations. There was no reasonable expectation of them getting to a semifinal back then. The first tournament where you could say they had a realistic shot was 2003, but still an average team. The 2015 team was desperately unlucky as injuries and suspensions left them without about 7 starters, and Ireland’s squad depth cannot survive that. The 2023 team played very well and simply lost on the day to the ABs (ie didn’t choke). The teams that could and should have performed better (could be said to have “choked”) are 2007, 2011 and 2019 (should not have lost to Japan in 2019 and left themselves with the ABs in the quarter).
This is correct. Ireland lost most games they played in during the 1990s, and lost regularly to Tier 2 nations like Namibia and Italy. I would say that only in 2011 did Ireland choke. In 2007, Ireland were undercooked going into the tournament as they played no warm up games.
@@taintabird23 I certainly agree re: 2011 but I would definitely add 2007 and 2019 to the mix based on the standard of “performed below expectations on the biggest stage”. In 2019 the loss to Japan really set that squad back so they were then terrible in the quarters. It also seemed like they were figured out by other teams, based on how England dismantled pre-tournament, and they couldn’t adapt. In 2007, they did have warm up games (Italy and Scotland, and who could forget the Battle of Bayonne), but a key training issue a lot of players highlighted was O’Sullivan had them in the gym too much and not enough on the pitch. They were all about 5kg heavier than normal, but not as good with the ball and lacking in stamina/fitness. They were really bad in that group stage as a result and performed way below expectations
They’re a great 15 man team, which is why they can beat the Boks and All Blacks in single games, but in a World Cup, you need to play 7 games, week after week, and if you can’t rotate, or rely on your bench, you’re going to suffer the consequences. The Boks and All Blacks are better because they have squads.
@davidwalker2402 the difference is that South Africa lost in the early stages a match they could afford to lose and Ireland lose a match they had to win. They have a great starting 15, South Africa has a better squad period.
@@meeshnozigqwaba8972 yeah 8 players out injured and we literally beat the shit out of SA in our last test. Then SA put out the Bum squad against us in France and we destroyed them. Do you think a team of only 15 players can do this or can be number 1 for almost two years and beating ABs x2 SA x 2 France x 2 England x 3 Scotland x 3 Argentina x 1 Australia x 1 Wales x 2 and winning almost 3 times the cash that SA have done in 5 years all with only 15 men . I think you just show how little you know and how biased you are.
@@davidwalker2402 You talk about injuries for Ireland, but fail to ever mention that for the teams you play against. You’re a 15 man team, you played almost the same 15 every game of the World Cup, and against the All Blacks, it showed, you got tired, and the All Blacks put you in your place, another quarter final for Irish rugby heritage. The Boks rotate constantly, and long term they’re better for it, that’s how you win world cups, they might lose games along the way because of, but I think I would rather the 4 🏆. You can’t really comment on that, because you don’t have a damn clue about anything that means something in rugby.
NZ choked in every WC from 1987 to 2015. (World rugby let NZ win the 2011 final - that game was a disgrace). So Ireland will get there. It’s very hard to win it. You have to be very good and you need some luck with who you play and which ref you get in each game. In 2011 Wales beat Fiji, lost to SA, beat Ireland, lost to France and then lost to Australia in the 3rd place play off. This is deemed to be a successful WC because they reached the semi. This is crazy, the WC is nice to win but back to back 6N wins is more important. Ireland will reach the semi’s in the next WC as they are beyond it now. Whether they go further, we’ll see but 6N will always be more important and the new world competition that’s planned will take the gloss off the WC.
@@jpfowlds5921 In the NH, it is. Win the 6 Nations with a grand slam and the prize money is bigger than winning the Rugby World Cup. When you consider that the RWC is held at a time of the year that suits the SH, well, you have to give the 24 million you could potentially win the priority. This new global league competition will be a great equaliser and you will see, I expect, a greater balance between NH and SH victories.
France have an even more gutting history by getting to 3 finals and not winning, thats way more gutting when you are just one game away from lifting the trophy
Its got nothing to do with luck. It's about squad depth and rotation. Their best 15 are good enough to beat any team on any given day. But they put the same 15 on for every game even when they play tier 2 nations. Either its a failure in strategy or the leadeship are not confident that their second picks have what it takes on test level.
They are an in-form team. World beaters on any day except for when it matters most. Ireland have played the Boks 20 times in the professional era and have only won twice in SA. I am talking test matches here, they are yet to win a series. That is not bad luck, it is just not being good enough. They have all the pieces to be one of the greats in rugby. Unfortunately, they don’t have the mentality. I don’t want to mention their WC record, it would be unfair. I am just talking tests against South Africa since Ireland has had the upper hand since 2016.
In Ireland, every game matters. Not games we win or the world cup. They all obviously matter to you also because you keep score of he wins in the professional era. Its hard to do that and then pretend you defeats to Ireland don't matter, but that is a problem for you not for me. Ireland may only have won only twice on South African soil, but Ireland beat the world champions in 2023 in front of their own people on their own soil. They stopped the World Champions from winning the series. They did it with a scratch team, and having been reduced to 14 men for 10 minutes. South Africa had almost a 1000 caps on the pitch, and multiple RWC medal winners. In the professional era, South Africa have only won 11 times against Ireland but have lost to Ireland 9 times. South Africa have lost to Ireland in Ireland. South Africa have lost to Ireland in South Africa. South Africa have lost to Ireland on neutral territory at the world cup. South Africa's 6th worst defeat, and second worst to a NH side has been to.... Ireland. Ireland's record at the world cup is an anomaly. A lack of depth, poor preparation and bad luck have played their part in Ireland's failure at the world cup. If Ireland ever choked it was in 2011 v Wales, although the Welsh put it down to an effective game plan.
@@taintabird23 every World Cup is an anomaly for Ireland? I don’t think so. Actually screw what I think, the stats tell you that it is not the anomaly but the norm. Ireland have become a good team of late, not great but very good. There is just one more step before greatness. Again, that’s all in the stats. They have been high up in the rankings since 2019, their first time since the rankings began. You can blame bad management and luck, at the end of the day it is the results that speak. Not our opinions just straight facts. Great team in Europe but nearly men in the world stage.
Look at de population of de team that beat us bar de all blacks but its their national sport in Ireland 4th or 5th mostly private school boys 5m population against France England South Africa Australia Argentina check populations👍
@@ClutchRugbyXVnice! What a legend of the game he is I've got to go with Brian O'Driscoll but I really enjoyed watching players like Sean O'Brien, Rory Best and Rob Kearney as well. Plenty to pick from
@@grfannnice ! The first winner of the world player of the year. Extremely skillful for a hooker playing in his generation. Before his time and a legend of the game
I couldn’t believe when Ireland messed up in the World Cup quarter finals in 2011 and 2015, they completely messed up in those games, no disrespect to Wales and Argentina they were definitely better on the day, but those are two teams that could have easily beaten
yeah with the Wales game they had met earlier and lost, so if you know your pools, you can almost guess who your playoff opponent would be, I would have hoped they had a sort of ‘exit’ game plan-not to be, as you said “No Dis” to Wales👊
I don't know what happened in 2011, it is the only time I suspect they choked. But in 2015, Ireland were decimated with injuries and faced an Argentine side that had zeroed in on Ireland as potential quarter final opponents. Ireland's lacked strength in depth on that occasion.
@@taintabird23 the one team you dont want to tangle with when your'e injured is Argentina!! on the other hand, I would imagine every team, has its own choke moments....
I love the Bokke it is my team but I also like the Irish to do well. I hope for them to be in the final against us. I do not think it is this or that. I think SA have a great advantage in our team play s lot of top teams a lot of times in the championship and in the regional setup the other teamplayers and we have many players in other countries. However it isbby God's grace we won in France.
The current Ireland squad is packed with talent. The problem with Ireland is that they don’t have a galvanising purpose, New Zealand and Springboks are purpose driven teams. Purpose is what sets World Champions, Semifinalists and Quarterfinalists apart. Your purpose cannot be “to win” or “to be the best”, it needs to be anchored on something beyond Rugby.
Just keep on kicking that door, the irish are mighty, that forward pack is soooooo good, its gonna come 🇿🇦 They need to play us boks and ABs more though
@@ClutchRugbyXV This is where argentina grew, playing our boks and the ABs all the time. But I cant compare the irish team to argentina cause the irish are too good currently, they are just as strong as our boks in their first 16 players and a little better than the current ABs team imo. It was just bad luck that they had to loose another important match in the world cup last year. But that is what i love about our current bok team, theyre like a suicide squad to get it done when it really matters
In the last one ..an exausting group , selecting the same players each group game and the joe schmidt factor certainly didn't help in that qf but alas they're all just excuses and i don't think we're an excuses nation tbf. The irfu runs itself now ..surely the fai can poach some of it's staff and come up with a similar business models to tackle the absolute dreadfull state of grassroots football in ireland
as an Irish person I dont car if we dont win the next RWC i want to get past the quaterfinals really badly, ik alot people hate us for being loud and active in the crowds, but seriously. We used to suck and with such a small population and rugby (not the most popular) being an national pride in our nation, what in the name of god do you expect?
Imho ireland had the best team to win Rwc23, its nothing to do with luck. They mismanaged the squad, they have a world class 15 players but you cant play these guys every week you need to rest and manage them. Ireland failed to do that in rwc23. Sadly. From a safa.
Also ireland dont have a history of players at senior or underage rugby failing drug/steriod tests!!! 😉😏🤔🤨😚☺😁also its not our national game unlike wales nz & sa who breathe rugby.....
I dont care about the quarter final hoodoo, even if ireland got to the semi final or final and lost, i would still be gutted they didnt win the world cup, the stage they lost at really doesnt matter
The irish are good enough to win a WC if they can get 1 thing right, and that is Winning games that matter. SA and NZ knows that well. thats why they dominated the WC for 2+decades. (comming from RSA)
pride comes before a fall - they were expecting to beat the abs and win - that was their first mistake - humbleness in rugby is what gets you to the top - Ireland has yet to learn that
Not only that, but public opinion and the book makers in New Zealand expected an Irish win. The Irish did not fail to win because they were proud, they failed to win because New Zealand played their best game in years. Ireland had earned the right to believe they could win that game. It is a pity you seem to think otherwise.
@@taintabird23 earn the right dont think so their hubris outplayed their skill on that day - the abs beat them because they knew how when it counted - funny how you still think otherwise
@@bodybalanceU2 Yeah, there is no evidence to support that point of view. Your opinion is coming from a place of hurt. The fact is, nobody in New Zealand believed they would win that quarter final - they hoped they would. The fact is also that the New Zealand bookies, for only the fifth time in history, believed Ireland would win. The gave NZ no chance. Hubris? Hardly. New Zealanders didn't even expect a win. New Zealand dug deep and played their best game in years. Unless you are suggesting otherwise? It is very important to people like you that Ireland goes back in the box and is no threat to the SH sides, but that is over now. Get used to it. Ireland has been in a process of slow, incremental improvement over the last 25 years. That is set to continue.
@@taintabird23 oh please as if you can tell us kiwis how we feel - you still have the hubris and Ireland still hasn't got past the QFs and they wont until they realise that hubris gets them nowhere when it counts - entitlement does not win cups - nz has lost many times in the last 100 years and Ireland never turned the corner until kiwi schmidt changed their mindset but unfortunately not their hubris and it hasn't been 25 years - I remember when they actually won against Australia in 2011 at the RWC for the very first time and that was like them winning the world cup for Ireland
The video mentions Keith Wood as an Ireland great. What did they ever win under him? Years ago, Ireland were terrible under Woody. It is only recently that Ireland have played well.
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I’m old enough to remember ireland doing a lap of honour when we beat the wallabies in a stormy Lansdowne rd. it was the first time since once the 70’s. We thought we’d be telling our grandkids about it. We’ve come a very long way in an organise consistent manner. So I for one will be keeping the faith
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@@briancurtis5796 Good on you man. I am a Blacks man but you have to support your team and roll with the punches that come. Ireland have come through the Blacks a few times and deserve the win, this is rugby and I’m not in the slightest salty about it! The best team wins! Love your attitude brother 👍
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I think what gets missed here and in discussion of the “quarter final hoodoo” is that until 2015, a QF was a solid showing for Ireland, we were never a consistently top 4 team in the world until Schmidt took over.
Indeed, but what you are forgetting is that Wales, Scotland and Argentina have achieved a win at the QF stage at least once and their records as consistent top 4 teams is nothing to write home about.
The fact is, there are different reasons each world cup which explains Ireland's failure. Sometimes a QF showing was reflective of their level, while other times they were either badly prepared or lacked the depth to go deep in the competition. Ireland were undoubtedly unlucky not to knock out Australia in 1991, losing at the death; perhaps again 2015 when so many players were injured in after pool stages. In 2023 Ireland were simply beaten by a better team on the day, and could have actually won the game.
Ireland will eventually break their quarter final hoodoo. Its just a matter of time.
I hope to be alive when it happens 😆 They did eventually got their first win against NZ, that was a long time waiting
@@taintabird23Wales have an excellent Rugby record historically what are you on about, or have you just watched Rugby for the past 5 years? Just cos Wales are on a down at the moment they were well worth their second WC semi final in 2011and should have been in the final, they also should have been in the semi last WC but blew it Irish style. As for the Six Nations Wales are joint with England as most successful team.
lol, funny bro
@@aldozilli1293 Welsh rugby was great historically, but it has not adapted well to the professional set up, for reasons best explained by the Welsh themselves.
They are highly inconsistent this century: while they have won more 6 Nations grand slams than Ireland, they have also won the wooden spoon twice. They have a won much fewer 6 Nations games than Ireland, and have a terrible record against SH sides in recent decades. They topped the World rankings once, for a week, but are usually found in the lower reaches of the top ten. Welsh clubs have done nothing at European level at little at URC level.
The Welsh have been in decline for a long time, but it has only become obvious in the last couple of years.
No reason why Ireland can’t win 2027 RWC.They have the players coaches structures clubs fans skill and tenacity.They can beat any side on any given day.They just need a bit of luck.🇿🇦
Exactly.
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@@waynemullen1285 5.2 million people on the island of Ireland...5.1 in New Zealand. What's your point?
@@sk-23. Rugby playing population.
Oh Ireland 🇮🇪 you beautiful beastie you. The flak, the trolling, the hatred, the jealousy. People dont waste this on bad teams.
I only got into irish rugby properly in 2021 and what time to get into it. They really rocked the world with how they play. Its great for the game. Fast, fluid, sparkling champagne rugby at times.
The players are just so damn charismatic - frawley, pom, sheehan, hansen, lowe, jgp, bundi, cd, jvdf etc etc. Im dying for the autumn games.
They make rugby very fun to watch for people who know nothing about it, ive seen it a million times and thats really important for the game.
Be looking forward to the next couple of years.
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@@Natedawg38 , someone with a lot of common sense.
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Ireland had never beaten nz until 2016 and in 2022 they kicked their ass in their own backyard winning an entire series. Don't count Ireland out quite yet they have arguably the best talent selection programme in the world only put in place around 15 years ago. They're getting better and better year on year and shouldn't be overlooked.
And NZ kicked their ass at the 2019 and 2023 WC both times Ireland was ranked number 1 “kicked their ass”
@@taraishot100 NZ kicked Ireland's ass in 2019, but it was a much closer game in 2023.
@taraishot100 I wouldn't call a 4 point victory on neutral soil an ass kicking especially considering how that game was reflected, but showing the ABs up on their own home turf by more then ten points in back to back games causing the whole of NZ to turn their backs on Foster calling for him to be replaced which subsequently happened, now that's "ass kicked"
Ah stop now, I’m Irish and I wouldn’t say we “kicked their ass” show some respect lad they booted us out of the wc
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From a NZr.. don’t listen to the noise, Ireland are the real deal. You have to be well and truly biased or South African to say they aren’t 😂 the only thing holding them back is that Quarterfinal hoodoo.. once they break that. They’ll be on another level. Their time will come.
As a Saffer I concur, playing Ireland just like the mighty All Blacks is always a nervy affair... Ireland cause the Boks problems.
The Irish just need to let their rugby do the talking and not talk so much. It's that simple. I just don't think they have it though.
@@Nyte-Owl beat world champions 4 out of 5 of their last games, they definitely have it no doubt.
@@foreignwarren7361 Ireland have also lost 8 quarterfinals out of 10 and have been grouped twice lolol
@@jpfowlds5921 beat South Africa 5 times double lolol
I have mad respect for the Irish and what theyve accomplished but i wish people would stop saying they are unlucky. They got outplayed on the day of each of these quarter-finals and unfortunately for them, after the first 4 failed attempts, it becomes a tapking point and then their own "voodoo" is that every world cup, the big questions seems to be "will they finally break that drought?" .... the 2023 world cup was more about "Ireland are good enough to win" which is true, they were, but once again, all the media focussed on was their record of never passing the quarter-finals and they came up against a team who had something to prove, a previous record of making every semi-final stage or better (bar 2007 of course) and had multiple former World Cup winners on their team who have been there and done it. The draw was tainted from the start for Ireland at this years world cup. The one year they are on top of the world and theyd have to face the world number 2, South Africa and the world number 5 Scotland in the same group and then either number 3cor number 4 France or New Zealand in the quarter-finals. On their day, ireland can beat any of these top teams and we know that because they have! They just get outplayed by a stronger team kn that day, thats all it is.
Zzzz lay off the star dawg
@@AD_Saffa_HD , so well said the rest of them can’t handle the truth.
I think we were unlucky in 2019/2023 to get new zealand . If we got someone else those years we might have got a good build up to the final.
But yes not good enough on the day too many times.
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What was his rating?
@@DylanSyllabeu either 98 or 99
@@Dkouts was he the highest?
@DylanSyllabeu from what I can remember there were a few players rated 99 or 98 so BOD was one of the highest
The guys I remember being 99 or 98 were Carter, Mccaw, Wilkinson, Williams, Umaga, Spencer, Burger
I could be missing some names there but those are the ones I can remember off the top of my head. BOD just had everything in the game though. Pace, power, could step well and break tackles easily pretty similar to the things he did in real life actually
The 6 Nations isn't really such a big deal
Rugby strength has always been in the Southern Hemisphere.
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@@stiofain88
I wasn't talking money I was talking rugby ability
Yes, the SH consists of 3 small economy nations and Australia where rugby is a tiny broke sport
@@rajivmurkejee7498 Rugby ability is extremely important. So is the ability to keep that talent from going to Rugby League as the case is in Australia, Japan as is the case with New Zealand and Europe as is the case with South Africans.
The 6 Nations cant be that bad. Ireland beat South Africa in South Africa as 6 Nations champions.
Pumas will be World Champions before Ireland. Remember my words.
I agree.
South African here. I agree.
That would be a sight to see. Amazing if they get it right. I hope they do
Absolutely. They're my dark horse favourites for 2027. They play very well in Australasia and have reached two semi finals already.
@@revampmyself6669 Of course you agree, you are sick of losing to Ireland and are obsessed with them lol
Its a pity because in 2023 we beat the eventual winners. We came very close to beating new zealand. It was a clear sign we are top 4 but it will go down as another qf defeat
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Great players and a great coach, narrowest of margins in 2023
Nah they weren't unlucky. They were cocky and "won" the cup before even playing. It was just a lesson in humbleness. There's a fine line between confident and cocky
What do you think they need to fix game plan wise ?
Only one European team has actually won the world cup so it's not really that bad in context.
Good point. The channel actually made a really cool video on that win and the 2003 England side. Check it out, I really enjoyed it 🏴
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Well, when you consider the RWC is held at a time of the year that suits the Southern Hemisphere, it is not surprising only one NH side has won the RWC.
@@taintabird23weak excuse the SH just too good
@@taintabird23 how many rwc did SH host again and how many has NH hosted.🤦
Ireland did NOT enter the 2019 tournament as one of the favourites. Not even close lol
They were written off after their abysmal campaign in that year’s six nations, where Wales had achieved a grand slam.
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U know how many times NZ have been 1 in the world and not one the WC
You know how many time NZ have won the WC?
You know they have 3 world cups under their belt? And when they've been number 1 and not won it's because the Bokke have won it 🇿🇦🇿🇦
The luck of the Irish is actually a sarcastic term so it is accurate to say
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Irish kids should know they can do everything or anything if they put their mind into it except for 'winning a WC'
Ha ha very funny, for a country of 5 million where Rugby comes third, they are bloody brilliant, you forget yourself sir ☠️
@@foreignwarren7361 almost every top team has rugby as their 2nd or 3rd ranked sport in their country, you don't have a point 🤣
@@kokorice123 2nd or third, Rugby in Ireland is 4th, with a population of 5 million, of course I have a point. They also kicked ass in the olympics compared to South Africa 😂
@@foreignwarren7361although the AB's first sport is rugga, they have less ppl than you and do much better at rugby, cricket and Olympics than you blokes, what does that make you.
@@foreignwarren7361 it may be your 4th favorite but you're still butthurt that you have to mention it along with the Olympics 🤣 by the way I ain't from SA
There a fantastic side and just beat SA at home something our ABs couldn’t do there no 2 in the world and I think there gonna do it this world why not . Look at the ABs records getting smashed week in week out and who saw that coming . Superbly coached Ireland and I’m a big fan of there ruthless style. Sorry just not a fan of Sexton my 2 pennys
If they stay in the top 4 consistently then they have many semis and finals ahead of them. Always have been tough to beat in Ireland but only in the last 3 years or so winning in SA and NZ.
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In the past we choked however at the last World Cup we didn't New Zealand just had that perfect game where they made zero errors and Ireland played brilliantly. It's genuinely the first quarter final where we haven't choked we lost the game because NZ were amazing on the day not because we were awful.
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Most of the QF we lost, through not choking. We were beaten by better teams, or we just didn't have the depth of players. In 1991, were were incredibly unlucky.
It’s also worth noting that Ireland had easily the worst draw of any team in 23.
France: play NZ, then 3 easy matches to QF.
NZ: same (except they played France)
SA: Scotland, Ireland, Tonga and a break before QF
Ireland: 2 easy games, then SA, Scotland and a 6 day gap before QF.
The fact that Ireland came so close is actually amazing given the schedule.
@@ColinGrealyrsa had to beat france england and nz consecutively
@@subbie5498 and if Ireland had beaten NZ, it would have been NZ, Arg, SA.
The knockout stages are always brutal.
My point was that Ireland had the hardest run INTO the knockout stages.
The Boks deserved that RWC, no doubt. But it would have been great to stop fucking hearing about QFs 😁
ABs know better than anyone that #1 ranking counts for nothing at the WC. If anything, its a curse.
All the pressure is on number 1 going in
Ireland had two good teams going into the 2019 and 2023 rwcs but couldn't progress . Thats hard for them and their fans as they are a good side but its tournament rugby and there is a fine line between defeat and victory .
Boks were worthy champions but they scrapped past England, it happens
Ireland have developed into one of the top sides in rugby and i have no doubt they will break their hoodoo and do well in the next rwc
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@patrickchilds2987 what do you think Ireland need to change ?
What a player Brian O'Driscoll was 🏉
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Was deadly 🔥
That was really a great era of world class outside centres. BOD, Conrad Smith, Jacques Fourie and the latter stages of Tana Umaga's career
@@Dkouts yeah Great player . His punditry is SCRIPTED and paid for
@@David-h1f4r😂 let's focus on his playing time then. I haven't listened too much to his punditry work
Same problem afflicted the 1990-2002 golden generation Republic of Ireland soccer team, reaching quarters as one of the top teams in the world but never breaking the glass ceiling.
I am hopeful for 2027.
Good to see some positivity 🇮🇪
Yeah and Ireland only started to get competitive from rugby from 2000 onwards, they generally get better every years from then, apart from the World Cup of course
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Ireland are just not good enough. To be expected when they've only recently become a tier 1 nation. Can't call yourself number 1 of you've never won the WC.
Well said. Ireland have come through my Blacks a couple times, but they do not have the juice to go through for a WC. This narration is hugely biased towards making Ireland look like they are a lot stronger than they are as well.
@@TheCaptain001oh bollocks you cry babies, to think Ireland never has a chance of winning the World Cup is just you being scared of a side that has improved massively and continually defied the odds, with the system the IRFU has set Ireland are very likely to win a world cup in the next 20 years
Beat South Africa in WC and recently beat them at home,which NZ failed to do twice 😂 of course they are good enough...they just have a psychological hurdle to get over in WCs.
You gobshits are hilarious
@@foreignwarren7361Let me know when they get over it. Not holding my breath.
Correction: In 1999 they did not lose in the quarter finals. There was a qualifying round after he group stage where they lost to Argentina.
What they are missing is consistency when it counts. They are a class outfit. But the RWC is a test of attrition and when you facing any of the top best 6 teams it can go anyway.
@@KiloPage777 Couldn't beat New Zealand in 2019. Reliant on England to do so. Couldn't beat Ireland in 2023. Reliant on New Zealand to do so. Chumps
No. They are missing depth... their starting 15 is good but the rest is just meh. They'll never win a world cup without squad depth.
@@John-mi2rt They 'couldn't beat' a team they didn't even face in the tournament they won? They 'couldn't beat' a team they narrowly lost toin a pool-stage dead rubber? If your rugby is as good as your logic, no wonder you've won f*ck all.
@@davesmith826 funny that. I seem to remember South Africa playing New Zealand in 2019. Did your electricity run out?
@@davesmith826 'dead rubber' was it? Lol rubbish. Ireland could have very easily conspired with Scotland to knock South Africa out. All because of that defeat. Chumps
2027 will depend on if we can get Felix Jones back or not.
@@MurphysisbetterthanGuinness hey @murphy looks that’s now like a third team after after Felix Jones
@@ClutchRugbyXV Who??
What an asset he would be
Those believing Ireland aren't good enough are smelling their socks. They are alongside the Boks, Englang, NZ and France real contenders, and it is inevitable they will get to a final soon.
They're right up there 🇮🇪
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Irland is not a good rugby team. SA lost against japan once. Doesnt mean japan is good. Irland mostly plays against nortern teams. They are not above SA NZ ARG or ENG. They are like france.
France are clearly the unluckiest team, three defeats in the final, whilst Ireland continually crumble in the Quarters. Also Ireland have only really been good since BOD came onto the scene, whilst France, England, Wales and Scotland have traditionally been the NH heavyweights.
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When there's an Ireland video you can guarantee there's an army of Saffas there to talk shit.
Shame that the constant online trolls ruin the good experience I've had with them otherwise
There is no doubt, losing to Ireland has had a deep psychological impact on South Africans.
yh, it‘s their ingrained smallman syndrome that‘s in desperate panic to try and remind themselves who‘s the supposed stronger party by lobbing all sorts of claims on passers-by
You know, people, Saffas mostly, really like to rub it in about out misfortune, but I think they've forgotten the difficulty that we had to manage with having to play New Zealand in the last 2x WC quarter finals. I think they shouldn't be smug about it as much as they want to be, because clearly they forget it's New Zealand. It's not against some lesser team we know. It's the team that's won it 3x times. That's the definition of a mental challenge Ireland has to cope with anytime they're in the tournament, because they get a very unlucky situation of facing a tough team, even when they do well. It also shows how broken the scheduling is in terms of rankings and seedings for the pools, as they're done way too early. Teams like Wales and England have it a LOT easier with who they get, and 2023 was no exception.
The same All Blacks that the Springboks beat 2/2 in Grand finals or ...a different "weaker" All Blacks team
Not this saffa I like Ireland
we must realize Ireland took a 2-1 test series in NZ in '22 and drew a 1-1 series in South Africa, this year !! no easy feat....
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Saffers have won the world cup 4 times and yet missed out on 2 world cups during apartheid era. That's a 50% winning margin. Every time they have reached the final they have won , twice against the All Blacks . If you are talking about a team that has mental strength regarding on the big stage it would be the Springboks.
0:24 I think the Springbok on that emblem was ill. It looks a lot like a protea poor thing😭, someone call the vet
Superb summary Mr Clutch. The first 15 were always in with a shout ,the last 20 years. Too much of a gap between the first team and the second team. Why was a 50 year old Johnny Sexton first choice in 23? 🙂 He should have been brought on with 15 min to go against NZ.
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Didn’t even say who beat then in 2011. No scores either for most quater finals. Why?
Ireland has a population of around 5.2 million. Rugby union is the third most popular sport there behind soccer and gaelic football. By all accounts, Ireland have punched well above their weight on the Rugby stage and have shown a steady and consistent rise in their performances in the last 8 years. They are not the yo yo team of the past (Like the current Pumas).
I certainly wouldnt say they're the unluckiest team, as none of their losses were really due to errors or bad luck in play and most of their QF losses were convincing losses by 10 points or more.
Whatever they're doing in Ireland seems to be working. They just need to keep recycling youth talent, keeping those consistent high competitive performances and they'll be knocking on that WC door.
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The Irish rugby team represents a population of SEVEN MILLION PEOPLE. Incredibly, people forget Northern Ireland when talking about the population the Irish team represents.
Irish rugby has been on a upward trajectory since Brian O'Driscoll's three tries in Paris in 2000. It is constantly, if slowly, improving all the time. It will one day result in Ireland winning a rugby world cup.
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Being unlucky is different from being chokers 😅 The title should be " The biggest chokers in rugby " 😢
2019 was a choke. Beat the AB's twice inside a year and then totally fluffed it in the quarters. 2023 I wouldn't classify as a choke, as Ireland played an absolutely magnificent game of rugby... But New Zealand just edged them.
From 1987 to 2015 Ireland simply wasn't good enough to reach the semis. No choking there.
Nobody were called the Irish chokers until Steve Hansen introduced it as part of the gamesmanship ahead of the World Cup. Before Hansen cast a slur on the Irish character, the Irish were told they didn't have he depth to win a world cup.
@@randomlyfactual1943They could have won in 2011 but underestimated Wales and in 2015 could have won but for the fact they lost their star players to injury. They came close in 1991 and 2023. The real chokes were in 2007 when they did not make it out of their group and in 1999 when they lost a playof and losing in 2011 after topping their group.They got blown away in 1987, 2003 and 2019.
This current crop is a well drilled unit, that has been the benchmark for the past two years ,unlucky with the W C draw {unlike sth Africa} , but that's the nature of a tournament, the best team doesn't always win it....
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Are you taking the piss ? SA in the same group as Ireland and had to beat all the top teams to lift the cup. Lucky draw ?
@@nicobr00 They didn't beat Ireland, as usual.
Ireland should try and get world rugby to drop quarter finals from the world cup.
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😆 they need an easier team like Italy or Fiji in the quarterfinal, even if they didn’t play well, they could still win the game
I have an idea why Ireland don't seem to get ahead when all stats seem to suggest they should. It's because they are sprinters not marathon runners. If you look at their tournaments they take part in either as Leinster or as Ireland they start out of the blocks really quickly and catch the opposition by surprise but more often than not they run out of steam towards the back end of the game. Usually around 60 minutes, they relinquish their hold on the game because they are exhausted, they don't properly pace themselves particularly against heavier and more durable oppositions and when the stakes are higher. They need to get a few pace setters in their team to manage them better and help them to apply some game play styles that will keep them slower at times. Teams like ABs and Springboks put a lot of focus on set pieces which help players to catch their breaths, and slow down the game so they can rest. A game is better played when all facets of the game are utilised. Don't be backs focussed since they tend to get exhausted but give your forwards some work time so that your backs can rest. I almost get the impression Ireland are like the ABs of old. Too much pace in RWC and focus on scoring tries but forget defence is crucial. Are they continually playing catch up?
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What you describe is recent. It does not explain Ireland record in its totality. There are myriad reasons for the poor record.
The closest they ever got was in 1991, I believe it was a last minute try from Australia, back then Ireland would have been underdogs
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Ireland just keep being unlucky in that they lose to great teams. Only part of this whole premise I will entertain is the last World Cup the draw against as screwing two of the 4 best teams. And in that tournament they had as good a chance as the other 3.
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From 1987 to 2007, Ireland simply wasn't consistent enough with their performances. In 2011 they did achieve a famous win over Australia at a world cup, but fell apart against Wales.
2015 Ireland again simply wasn't good enough. In 2019 they would have fancied their chances against NZ but imploded spectacularly.
Then we get to 2023. Ireland did not choke in that match; it was a brilliant match between two brilliant teams and one of them had to win.
Ireland will one day beat the hoodoo if they continue on the path they are on. They have a very good squad full of talent across the park. They just need a luckier draw to break the semis.
In 2015 Ireland lost 6 key players and lacked the depth to make up for it.
@@taintabird23 That is the challenge you face. When you have a generational talent like a Wilkinson, a Carter or an O'Driscoll, you want to play them as often as you can. Problem is, that given the physical demands of the sport, you have them at their peak for roughly a decade and you can lose them at any time during that period.
So you lose guys like O'Driscoll, O'Gara, D'Arcy and then your chosen replacements have no game time.
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The Irish are world beaters when it suits them but victims of misfortune if things goes the other way. No one would give the Irish stick of they actually got on with rugby instead of talking so much.
Other people talk about us like you're doing now! And that's because you know we can beat you!!!
That doesn't seem to be the case in the real world.
Back on planet earth, when a New Zealander or an English commentator claims that the Irish are the best team in the world right now, South Africans blame the Irish for it. South Africans have a serious problem with the Irish. It seems the subject of an internet commentary can be about anything, and a South African will bring up the Irish. The country is traumatised by their Irish experience.
Incidentally, South Africans are world beaters when it suits them, but the victims of bad refereeing or cheating opposition when things go the other way. In fact, losing can even be part of some Rassie master plan!
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No. When I checked their youth recruitment programme, they didn't come to Southern hemisphere
They going to win it.
Depends on the QF opponents. I think people will write them off and they will get into the semi final. They go into most QFs as favourites.
@@ciaranbrk good point. In rugby, the favourites tag always carries a lot of weight and pressure. I think it will help Ireland too if they are not over hyped going in and the expectation is not there for them to definitely win the game. They have the players and coaches to make it that far.
Will always remember his face and feel sorry for johnny sexton at rwc24 quarters, he was just broken
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On their day any of the current top 4 teams in the world can pip the other. There isn't much between them at the moment. Will be interesting to see if the chasing pack of England, Argentina, Australian, Wales and Scotland can close the gap on SA, NZ, Ireland and France
England, yes. Argentina, yes. Australia, in a few years. Scotland and Wales, no.
You can also put France outside your top 4. They aren't any good outside of the Six Nations and their first choice players never go on tours.
@randomlyfactual1943 interesting perspective but I think France are right up there they've got decent depth in most positions and I think they'll keep building leading up to 2027
@@Dkouts France has a few major problems facing them:
1) Their domestic league is by far the longest and most arduous.
2) Their domestic league is also too rich. The fact that they get guys from SA, Fiji, Georgia into their club teams means French players are not getting as much time to shine. Our local competition, while not being nearly as rich, produces 100% home grown lads. So while French guys are being kept out of their teams by our guys, we keep on producing some top class players.
3) due to the length of their domestic season, France doesn't tour with their best team. This means that their supposed best players never get game time outside of Europe. Their best player, Antoine Dupont only has 24 minutes of rugby outside the Northern Hemisphere. They couldn't beat us in their own backyard in 2023 and I think expecting them to perform in Australia in 2027 when they've never even been there is going to be too much to ask.
What say you?
I definitely agree with all the points you make there. I think a cornerstone of SA rugby being so strong atm is that our domestic rugby gives opportunity to local players in testing situations. The French sides are filled with foreign players and there's so many teams so it's less likely that they get combinations together from domestic level transitioning into international level. They've got the dupont ntamack combo sure but you need those combos, that chemistry is so important.
I've always been suprised that france doesn't take stronger touring sides. Like their touring side for the incoming series this year was very weak and the team needs time to gel. In saying that I highly rate their top players. They are world class. Outside of Dupont guys like Ramos, Penaud, Ollivon and Alldritt are top tier however if they lose those guys the replacements aren't on the same level and we saw that with Ntamack and Jalibert so I think if they can get a bit more depth and their best 15 stay fit they're a real problem.
@@Dkouts Agree on all points. If I may expand a bit: you know how good France has been in the past. Last team to beat New Zealand on tour, last team to beat New Zealand at Eden Park. Scored some famous victories against all the giants of the Southern Hemisphere. Regular 5/6 Nations champions. Three time world cup finalists, six time semi finalists - they did all this in the first seven tournaments!
Since 2011 though, France has not been in a semi-final, not even in their own world cup. Also since 2011, they have only won the 6N once, in 2022.
Now I'm sure there is a lot more that goes into it, but in my mind it is their domestic setup and their willingness to keep their own players out of their clubs in favour of players from other nationalities.
Ireland were definitely unlucky in the RWC, and I say that as a NZ AB fan. Ireland could have so easily beaten us. ABs were very lucky to beat Ireland.
Ireland also showed SA that they could beat them on their recent tour. Ignore the Saffas as they take the prize at being worst rugby fans. Keep doing what you are doing Ireland. You are one heck of an opponent and all outside of South Africa hold you in high regard.
South Africa's legendary Gary Player said: The more you practise the luckier you get.
NZ have the most annoying fans, media and the most disgusting players. You fans are full of shit and expect to win all games, your media is bias and hates anyone *like SA* that don't play the same style rugby. The players like reece, richie frizell etc are all domestic abusers that beat woman. NZ, what a play to live if you're a woman
“Saffas take the prize at being the worst rugby fans” says the New Zealander whose country decides that the future of rugby is at stake whenever they lose
Well okay, but NZ fans take the title as the most entitled rugby fans, that insist rules have to change when things don't go their way and throw their toys around when home teams don't bow down to their pre-match dance.
@@ukuthulakhumalo6288 Ireland have been bombarded on their own rugby shows with Saffas. Same for the Australians. Same for the French. Saffas flood our NZ rugby channels as well with their derogatory comments. South Africans can’t even win with grace. Sad thing is they do it with arrogance.
Most actual rugby lovers and true fans know that rugby has a problem with refereeing and inconsistencies… yet South Africa will play victim constantly while trolling every nation.
It’s not luck, it’s skill, tactics and depth….
no one here has played in a wc final but im lead to believe they aint easy
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FACTS. The Irish must stop crying.
@@Nyte-Owlall I‘m seeing here is edgy saffies, lemme know when ya see somebody cryin‘
4:27 Just one small thing. Yes Ireland made it out of their group but they didn't play in the quarter finals. Rather, they made it to the playoffs in 1999 for a place in the quarter finals and eventually lost to Argentina in those playoffs.
Every Irish team has been better than the last one since the year 2000. Joe Shmidts 2018 team was supposedly the peak if you go back and look at what people said around that time. Andy Farrells team did what many thought was impossible and surpassed that team again.
That fact leads me to believe this is the start of something not the beginning or the middle. The 2027 Ireland team will be better than the 2023 team.
interesting perspective ☘️
I'm inclined to agree. Modern Irish rugby only began in 2000 with that win in Paris and BODs three tries, and has been incrementally improving slowly ever since. Every team is better than the last. Each team sets a new benchmark for Irish rugby. We're only at the start.
I think so too. I also think they're at a good place with the oldies, mid of the road and newbie players coming up. Also, and I hate to say it, Johnny sexton retiring is good for the team. He was too old for that world cup, or rather, to be playing every game in that world cup. Playing him against Romania was....insane.
@12:00 Willie John McBride at Lansdowne Rd .... scored his first and only try, on his last ever game at Lansdowne
The underlying problem is that World Rugby rankings are a crock of $hyT@. So if you measure yourself in that way, then you're deceived to begin with.
Agreed. Safa here. The rankings mean nothing. They had the wole world fooled that they are nr 1. Not even close. I would say ARG are 3rd they are maybe 4th or 5th depending on ENG
How are they a crock of shite?
@@taintabird23 IRL played england 140 times and SA only 30. The rankings are estemations not score
Luck has nothing to do with it, train harder play harder, and be hungry. no stone unturned.
Ireland's claim of being the best team in the world is based on a series win in New Zealand and a good string of results against the Boks. So they feel that they are at least lateral to two of the most successful rugbying nations.
The rest of the world knows that this isn't good enough, and that Ireland are yet to be good enough to claim supremacy.
This isn't about hating on Ireland - it's about dismantling their delusions. You haven't done near enough.
@@brianharvey9765 hah good god you people are insanely arrogant and delusional! Ireland are fully deserved of there continual world ranking heights as they continually prove they can beat the " best in the world" even on there own patch..
We don't consider ourselves the best rugby nation on earth at all nowhere near the history and legacy, we've only really embraced the game properly as a nation recently but that doesn't mean we can't mix it with the top boys now, and we clearly do! Don't be such a tosser!
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A lot of the commentary about Ireland’s quarter final performances seems to miss the fact that Ireland were a bad team in the 1990s, finishing either last or second last in every 5 nations. There was no reasonable expectation of them getting to a semifinal back then. The first tournament where you could say they had a realistic shot was 2003, but still an average team. The 2015 team was desperately unlucky as injuries and suspensions left them without about 7 starters, and Ireland’s squad depth cannot survive that. The 2023 team played very well and simply lost on the day to the ABs (ie didn’t choke). The teams that could and should have performed better (could be said to have “choked”) are 2007, 2011 and 2019 (should not have lost to Japan in 2019 and left themselves with the ABs in the quarter).
This is correct. Ireland lost most games they played in during the 1990s, and lost regularly to Tier 2 nations like Namibia and Italy. I would say that only in 2011 did Ireland choke. In 2007, Ireland were undercooked going into the tournament as they played no warm up games.
@@taintabird23 I certainly agree re: 2011 but I would definitely add 2007 and 2019 to the mix based on the standard of “performed below expectations on the biggest stage”. In 2019 the loss to Japan really set that squad back so they were then terrible in the quarters. It also seemed like they were figured out by other teams, based on how England dismantled pre-tournament, and they couldn’t adapt. In 2007, they did have warm up games (Italy and Scotland, and who could forget the Battle of Bayonne), but a key training issue a lot of players highlighted was O’Sullivan had them in the gym too much and not enough on the pitch. They were all about 5kg heavier than normal, but not as good with the ball and lacking in stamina/fitness. They were really bad in that group stage as a result and performed way below expectations
They’re a great 15 man team, which is why they can beat the Boks and All Blacks in single games, but in a World Cup, you need to play 7 games, week after week, and if you can’t rotate, or rely on your bench, you’re going to suffer the consequences. The Boks and All Blacks are better because they have squads.
Ireland lost 1 game in the WC SA lost 1 game are you really that dumb to say what you said 😂
@davidwalker2402 the difference is that South Africa lost in the early stages a match they could afford to lose and Ireland lose a match they had to win. They have a great starting 15, South Africa has a better squad period.
@@davidwalker2402 yoh dude if this is how irish fans respond then you'll never get it, world cups are won with SQUADS
@@meeshnozigqwaba8972 yeah 8 players out injured and we literally beat the shit out of SA in our last test. Then SA put out the Bum squad against us in France and we destroyed them. Do you think a team of only 15 players can do this or can be number 1 for almost two years and beating ABs x2 SA x 2 France x 2 England x 3 Scotland x 3 Argentina x 1 Australia x 1 Wales x 2 and winning almost 3 times the cash that SA have done in 5 years all with only 15 men . I think you just show how little you know and how biased you are.
@@davidwalker2402 You talk about injuries for Ireland, but fail to ever mention that for the teams you play against. You’re a 15 man team, you played almost the same 15 every game of the World Cup, and against the All Blacks, it showed, you got tired, and the All Blacks put you in your place, another quarter final for Irish rugby heritage. The Boks rotate constantly, and long term they’re better for it, that’s how you win world cups, they might lose games along the way because of, but I think I would rather the 4 🏆. You can’t really comment on that, because you don’t have a damn clue about anything that means something in rugby.
NZ choked in every WC from 1987 to 2015. (World rugby let NZ win the 2011 final - that game was a disgrace). So Ireland will get there. It’s very hard to win it. You have to be very good and you need some luck with who you play and which ref you get in each game. In 2011 Wales beat Fiji, lost to SA, beat Ireland, lost to France and then lost to Australia in the 3rd place play off. This is deemed to be a successful WC because they reached the semi. This is crazy, the WC is nice to win but back to back 6N wins is more important. Ireland will reach the semi’s in the next WC as they are beyond it now. Whether they go further, we’ll see but 6N will always be more important and the new world competition that’s planned will take the gloss off the WC.
Six nations is more important than rwc 😂😂😂 tell me your Irish without telling me your Irish
Yeah it has become more important for Ireland because of the WC outcomes
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@@jpfowlds5921 In the NH, it is. Win the 6 Nations with a grand slam and the prize money is bigger than winning the Rugby World Cup. When you consider that the RWC is held at a time of the year that suits the SH, well, you have to give the 24 million you could potentially win the priority.
This new global league competition will be a great equaliser and you will see, I expect, a greater balance between NH and SH victories.
France have an even more gutting history by getting to 3 finals and not winning, thats way more gutting when you are just one game away from lifting the trophy
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Its got nothing to do with luck. It's about squad depth and rotation.
Their best 15 are good enough to beat any team on any given day. But they put the same 15 on for every game even when they play tier 2 nations.
Either its a failure in strategy or the leadeship are not confident that their second picks have what it takes on test level.
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They only way for them to make it to the Semi finals is not to play AB or Springboks in the quarter finals
Ireland has a 100% win record against the Boks at the RWC.
They are an in-form team. World beaters on any day except for when it matters most. Ireland have played the Boks 20 times in the professional era and have only won twice in SA. I am talking test matches here, they are yet to win a series. That is not bad luck, it is just not being good enough. They have all the pieces to be one of the greats in rugby. Unfortunately, they don’t have the mentality.
I don’t want to mention their WC record, it would be unfair. I am just talking tests against South Africa since Ireland has had the upper hand since 2016.
In Ireland, every game matters. Not games we win or the world cup. They all obviously matter to you also because you keep score of he wins in the professional era. Its hard to do that and then pretend you defeats to Ireland don't matter, but that is a problem for you not for me.
Ireland may only have won only twice on South African soil, but Ireland beat the world champions in 2023 in front of their own people on their own soil. They stopped the World Champions from winning the series. They did it with a scratch team, and having been reduced to 14 men for 10 minutes. South Africa had almost a 1000 caps on the pitch, and multiple RWC medal winners.
In the professional era, South Africa have only won 11 times against Ireland but have lost to Ireland 9 times.
South Africa have lost to Ireland in Ireland.
South Africa have lost to Ireland in South Africa.
South Africa have lost to Ireland on neutral territory at the world cup.
South Africa's 6th worst defeat, and second worst to a NH side has been to.... Ireland.
Ireland's record at the world cup is an anomaly. A lack of depth, poor preparation and bad luck have played their part in Ireland's failure at the world cup. If Ireland ever choked it was in 2011 v Wales, although the Welsh put it down to an effective game plan.
@@taintabird23 every World Cup is an anomaly for Ireland? I don’t think so. Actually screw what I think, the stats tell you that it is not the anomaly but the norm. Ireland have become a good team of late, not great but very good. There is just one more step before greatness. Again, that’s all in the stats. They have been high up in the rankings since 2019, their first time since the rankings began.
You can blame bad management and luck, at the end of the day it is the results that speak. Not our opinions just straight facts. Great team in Europe but nearly men in the world stage.
I totally disagree. In the case of Ireland, by a very very wide margin are the most successful at reaching the quarter finals. There, I said it.
Im surprised the Saffers havent mentiond Ireland cant get past the QF and they've 4 World Cups. They normally never ever bring it up
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Look at de population of de team that beat us bar de all blacks but its their national sport in Ireland 4th or 5th mostly private school boys 5m population against France England South Africa Australia Argentina check populations👍
7 million.
@@taintabird23 bout 100,000 playing Gaa Hurling soccer Horse racing all before rugby In Ireland
@@waynemullen1285 I think the GAA has 500,000 members.
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Keith Woods..
@@ClutchRugbyXVnice! What a legend of the game he is
I've got to go with Brian O'Driscoll but I really enjoyed watching players like Sean O'Brien, Rory Best and Rob Kearney as well. Plenty to pick from
@@grfannnice ! The first winner of the world player of the year. Extremely skillful for a hooker playing in his generation. Before his time and a legend of the game
@@grfann keith woods was a star!!!
Get felix jones in and we have a chance, he has proven himself
bro, like felix jones, for the irish or the boks, are we talkin' 'bout the same dude?
@@ClutchRugbyXV yes he quit england
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You aren't unlucky if you can't win crucial games. Dont come say injury this and that a win is a win and a lose...
Sorry Irland your day will come
you cant be unlucky multiple times
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I couldn’t believe when Ireland messed up in the World Cup quarter finals in 2011 and 2015, they completely messed up in those games, no disrespect to Wales and Argentina they were definitely better on the day, but those are two teams that could have easily beaten
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I don't know what happened in 2011, it is the only time I suspect they choked. But in 2015, Ireland were decimated with injuries and faced an Argentine side that had zeroed in on Ireland as potential quarter final opponents. Ireland's lacked strength in depth on that occasion.
@@taintabird23 the one team you dont want to tangle with when your'e injured is Argentina!!
on the other hand, I would imagine every team, has its own choke moments....
2 or 3 QF exits is unlucky. 9 is a skill issue
We didn't deserve to make it past the first 6 QF's. Up until Italy joined the 6 nations we used to come last every year.
I love the Bokke it is my team but I also like the Irish to do well. I hope for them to be in the final against us. I do not think it is this or that. I think SA have a great advantage in our team play s lot of top teams a lot of times in the championship and in the regional setup the other teamplayers and we have many players in other countries. However it isbby God's grace we won in France.
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well, if the refs had correctly blown the final nz pass (in this video) correctly (forward pass), Ireland would have won!
@@andrewfarrer4568 yeah, you know I think I saw that pass ( is that by the left hand corner flag?? )
The current Ireland squad is packed with talent. The problem with Ireland is that they don’t have a galvanising purpose, New Zealand and Springboks are purpose driven teams. Purpose is what sets World Champions, Semifinalists and Quarterfinalists apart. Your purpose cannot be “to win” or “to be the best”, it needs to be anchored on something beyond Rugby.
And for SA and NZ that purpose is...?
Just keep on kicking that door, the irish are mighty, that forward pack is soooooo good, its gonna come 🇿🇦
They need to play us boks and ABs more though
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@@ClutchRugbyXV This is where argentina grew, playing our boks and the ABs all the time. But I cant compare the irish team to argentina cause the irish are too good currently, they are just as strong as our boks in their first 16 players and a little better than the current ABs team imo. It was just bad luck that they had to loose another important match in the world cup last year.
But that is what i love about our current bok team, theyre like a suicide squad to get it done when it really matters
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In the last one ..an exausting group , selecting the same players each group game and the joe schmidt factor certainly didn't help in that qf but alas they're all just excuses and i don't think we're an excuses nation tbf. The irfu runs itself now ..surely the fai can poach some of it's staff and come up with a similar business models to tackle the absolute dreadfull state of grassroots football in ireland
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as an Irish person I dont car if we dont win the next RWC i want to get past the quaterfinals really badly, ik alot people hate us for being loud and active in the crowds, but seriously. We used to suck and with such a small population and rugby (not the most popular) being an national pride in our nation, what in the name of god do you expect?
In my opinion france is the unlucky one, they have been to the final 3 times but never won one.
So close on so many occasions. They've also got a good chance in 2027 🇫🇷
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Imho ireland had the best team to win Rwc23, its nothing to do with luck. They mismanaged the squad, they have a world class 15 players but you cant play these guys every week you need to rest and manage them. Ireland failed to do that in rwc23. Sadly. From a safa.
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Totally. It was frustrating to witness. Everyone in Ireland agrees.
We had Romania for Gods sake!!!
Also ireland dont have a history of players at senior or underage rugby failing drug/steriod tests!!! 😉😏🤔🤨😚☺😁also its not our national game unlike wales nz & sa who breathe rugby.....
I dont care about the quarter final hoodoo, even if ireland got to the semi final or final and lost, i would still be gutted they didnt win the world cup, the stage they lost at really doesnt matter
Surely the unluckiest is the one who gets to the finals the most and loses
They peaked too early and when it comes to wc playoff stage, it doesn't matter if you're number 1
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Lazy analysis 'they peaked to early'. They never peaked at all. They still haven't.
It hasn't IRB in ages. I don't understand why people keep referencing IRB
The irish are good enough to win a WC if they can get 1 thing right, and that is Winning games that matter. SA and NZ knows that well. thats why they dominated the WC for 2+decades. (comming from RSA)
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Not only that, but public opinion and the book makers in New Zealand expected an Irish win.
The Irish did not fail to win because they were proud, they failed to win because New Zealand played their best game in years.
Ireland had earned the right to believe they could win that game. It is a pity you seem to think otherwise.
@@taintabird23 earn the right dont think so their hubris outplayed their skill on that day - the abs beat them because they knew how when it counted - funny how you still think otherwise
@@bodybalanceU2 Yeah, there is no evidence to support that point of view. Your opinion is coming from a place of hurt.
The fact is, nobody in New Zealand believed they would win that quarter final - they hoped they would.
The fact is also that the New Zealand bookies, for only the fifth time in history, believed Ireland would win. The gave NZ no chance.
Hubris? Hardly. New Zealanders didn't even expect a win. New Zealand dug deep and played their best game in years. Unless you are suggesting otherwise?
It is very important to people like you that Ireland goes back in the box and is no threat to the SH sides, but that is over now. Get used to it. Ireland has been in a process of slow, incremental improvement over the last 25 years. That is set to continue.
@@taintabird23 oh please as if you can tell us kiwis how we feel - you still have the hubris and Ireland still hasn't got past the QFs and they wont until they realise that hubris gets them nowhere when it counts - entitlement does not win cups - nz has lost many times in the last 100 years and Ireland never turned the corner until kiwi schmidt changed their mindset but unfortunately not their hubris and it hasn't been 25 years - I remember when they actually won against Australia in 2011 at the RWC for the very first time and that was like them winning the world cup for Ireland
Attitude adjustment will go a long way...
They're losing a lot of their leaders too so I wonder if that adjustment will be possible. Sexton gone and O'Mahoney doesn't have too many caps left.
What attitude adjustment?
Ireland need to forget the past and start from scratch. They also need to ignore the media calling them the best in the world.
How Ironic
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A lot of great teams have been knocked out early that could have won the final. Sometimes it comes down to the bounce of the ball.
bounce of the ball, rub of the green, blow of the whistle....🍀🍀🍀🍀
Well told story, I live for the day we break this harrowing record
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England had Fiji, gone tell me about how it's the top 8 teams again...
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Ireland proof yourself against all teams of the world.
The video mentions Keith Wood as an Ireland great. What did they ever win under him? Years ago, Ireland were terrible under Woody. It is only recently that Ireland have played well.
very kool and fair comment, Clutch used a different meter to measure the term 'great',
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I feel for Ireland
If only the referee made some dodgy calls in the loss to NZ
You Irish lot want it so much you'd cheat to get it. disgusting