Moto Guzzi V7 III Stone : Touring & Long Term Review
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- Moto Guzzi V7 III Stone : Touring & Long Term Review
A review of the Moto Guzzi V7 III Stone and how it coped with a 6 day / 2000 mile ride over to Switzerland together with a summary of the bike after 11 months and 5000 miles.
Yeah. It's lovely :-)
Thanks to Christopher Nolan & Interstellar for the opening credits inspiration / ripoff.
No biscuits were harmed in the making of this video.
No littering was committed.
When I hear you call it a small bike makes me think, you know your old when you remember the days a 650cc Bonneville was considered a big bike. I love your bike and great review!
My compliments on some very fine photography!
Thanks Rob - it was a labour of love 😀 Thanks for tuning in and taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.
Great nice mature view , How nothing beats maturity , unfortunately it mostly comes with age.
Thanks Johann - never a truer word :-) Thanks for watching and for stopping by, cheers, Phil.
Just to give you some credit mate - next to all the reviews your sober and honest portrail of the bike made me tie the knot with a brand new Guzzi V7 III Limited Last week. It was a long and tough call between the new Street Twin and this bike.... Thank you for that
Good morning Gereon, thanks very much for your comments - glad it helped with a very difficult decision! I think the Street Twin is a fabulous bike, it’s a modern bike made to look old (and nothing wrong with that) while the Guzzi is an old bike brought up to date - which for me was quite important as I wanted a semi-classic vibe, but didn’t want the hassle of something leaky or not practical and functional. Luckily the Guzzi fulfils the brief perfectly and I’m sure you’ll enjoy yours. Anyway, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.
Loved your video of V7. I bought a V7 Carbon because of you! and I am loving it! thanks again for your lovely video, really enjoyed it. be safe
Morning Farshad! Really really hope you continue to enjoy your V7 Carbon...I’ll feel terrible if you don’t! Glad you enjoyed the video though and thanks for taking the time to stop by and comment, cheers, Phil.
I bought the V7III Carbon Dark. Much improved over my '10 Cafe Classic. I got 0009 of 1921. This bike is a keeper.
As far as Italian bikes, I have owned a ducati 860, moto morini 500 camel, laverda 3cl 1000, cagiva 650, and currently have a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 and a 2013 Moto Guzzi Stone 750. Have owned several German bikes to include BMW and Zundaps. Grew up with British bikes--meaning Triumph and BSA. Have never been interested in Harley. Owned several Suzuki's to include 2-stroke models and the Wankel rotary 750. The Moto Guzzis have been my favorite above all the rest. Quirky, reliable, tractor-like in that the Japanese "refinement" is not there--but if you love just being connected to machinery and sound--Moto Guzzi!--mike battle
Hey Mike, thanks for stopping by and hope you’re well. Yeah, there’s definitely something about Moto Guzzi’s and the connection to the bike, as you say, is mechanically and aurally visceral - I really know when I’m riding it right and it rewards with smooth handling, lovely gear changes and a kind of clockwork thrumming sound 😀 Shame it took me 30 years to get one! That’s some collection of bikes you’ve had there though Mike - Zundapp! Blimey! And likewise with Harley’s…..I did like those Morini 🐪 🐪 when they came out and I still look 3.5s every so often. If only the garage, funds and time could cope though.
Right, must dash, hope all is well where you Mike, cheers, Phil.
I just had 1,800km trip on Guzzi V7 50Anni with BMW R1200GS group. The little Guzzi V7 was impressed by the group, It can handle 160++kph speed for 815km on the first day. The fuel consumption was above 20kml on trip total. I had it for 1 year with 9000km on odo meter. Non of any additional maintenance required. Rock solid bike.
Evening Songklod, that’s exactly my experience also...It’s a brilliant little tourer and dare I say it, rather cool in a quiet understated way. Mine is rock solid also, love it and I’ll be riding it when I’m 75 😀 Thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.
This film is perfection. I love your passion and artistry. Oh, and da wry humor. PS, I just sold my Bonneville, now you got me hankering.... peace! from Brooklyn NY
Thanks - good to know the work is appreciated! And yeah, if you’ve just sold your Bonneville, a Guzzi would fill the gap perfectly. Peace back to you from the East coast (of the UK), cheers, Phil.
@@80eightReviews Why would You chose air cooled Guzzi over Triumph. I want to buy a first motorcycle. Im really into "scramblers", of course street scrambler from Triumph comes up to my mind, cus Ducati is air cooled. Any other options? Sry for my potato english :D. Nice vid BTW.
Edit. I really like the fuel tank in Guzzi. I dont understand why Street Scrambler has pathetic 13l. Im planing to do some long ass trip alone (yeah great idea as a fresh moto guy) and thats bother me a bit. Since last week i spend average 2 hours a day to read.
I come from HD Dyna Low Rider to Kawasaki 800w then back to Triumph :D
Beautiful bike, beautiful trip to the Alps. Im dreaming of riding from here in Denmark down to the Dolomites.
I'm looking at a V7 3 from 2020 but with 26000km (16000miles).
But I'm a bit concerned about tge high mileage. What do you think?
Also, really like the simple pannier setup and it looks good! You didn't use any other straps than the two under seat?
Thank you!
Thanks very much for your kind comments & great to hear from you! Well 26Km isn’t a lot really and the engines are quite under stressed. If the previous owners have followed the maintenance schedule (and by now it should have had the gearbox and shaft oil changed, along with 3 engine oil changes) and it looks as though it’s been looked after, there’s no reason why it won’t be just fine.
And yes, the panniers worked surprisingly well and were very easy to put on and take off - using just the two straps! The bags bounce about a little but the shocks stop them from going anywhere near the wheel. It was basic but worked well. I may have had a small bag on the rear of the seat but I can’t remember now…It was a great trip and the V7 was great fun.
Hope that helps and let me know how you get on, cheers, Phil.
Moto Guzzi is not only a bike, its an institution!
Good morning, I totally agree with that! Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil
Your review is great. Honestly your videos of your V7 Stone influenced my decision to purchase a V7 Milano last year. I’ve owned Harleys, Hondas, and there is a BMW 1200 GS Adv in the garage but it is always the Guzzi that I choose to ride. I’ve put on 5K miles and the bike is like a bottle of fine wine that just keeps getting better over time. I’ve ridden it all over Texas (and parts of Colorado). I have the Dart Marlin Fly windscreen on there and some removable SW-Moto Tech Urban ABS side cases and they are awesome for touring. Torrent Dry Pack bag fits nicely on the back of the seat and serves as a little bit of a back rest. It really is a good little touring bike. Thanks for your reviews, your videos, and your inspiration. If you want to see a few pics of mine check out @guzzigentleman on Instagram. Cheers!
Good morning! Gosh, never thought a video would influence someone....Still, it sounds like it's working out for you. Yes, the V7 is very much like a bottle of good wine - it just never seems to grow old. Mine has around 8000 miles on it now and the engine and gearbox are just lovely. Even better though, while it seems to rattle and shake more it's smoother! Not sure how that works! Ultimately though, it's easy and light to ride, but also has to be ridden and proper engaged with on the road - it's a brilliant mix. I'd have a dozen in every colour if I could.
As for it being a touring bike - totally right and I can't wait to hit Europe on it once all the current oddness is out of the way.
Anyway, thanks for stopping by and I'll check the photo's out. Hope all is well in the US, cheers, Phil.
(just taken a look....Hitchhikers may be escaped inmates!!)
Greetings, loved the review. I just finished a journey across the US of just under 6,000 miles on my Guzzi Stone and have had very similar experience. But the main problem I have had with the bike, is that it has a very hard time finding neutral after coming to a full stop, forcing you to try to find it before stopping all the way. A little dangerous looking at the gauge to see if you hit it rather than the stuff in front of you. And yes I too had to tighten a mirror and fumble with the side stand. Since you did not mention difficulty in finding neutral, I can't help but wonder if this is a peculiar issue with my bike. Anyway thanks for the lovey review
Good evening John, thanks for your comments and good to know you enjoyed the review - your trip sounds fabulous. As for finding neutral - to be honest I’m kind of aware of it and deal with it by coming to a stop with the clutch in, snicking it up to neutral and letting the clutch out a fraction to see if I’ve got it. Muscle memory means I get it right 8 times out of 10 and I don’t really bother with the dials. When I first got the bike I had the opposite issue in that neutral to 1st is so soft I couldn’t quite believe it was in first! I don’t think you’ve got a problem with your bike and I’d put it down to a general Guzzi quirk. Rather like when I first discovered that changing down and dropping the clutch quickly wasn’t a good idea 😀 This was after being used to a slipper clutch on Ducati....Anyway, hope that helps, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Just went out and bought one - wonderful review.
Hey Ed, thanks for stopping by and I’m glad you enjoyed the review. Even better you’ve gone and bought one - brilliant! I really hope you like it! Let me know how you get on, all the best, Phil.
Nice vid, I’m riding my v7 classic tomorrow from Falkirk to Lindisfarne, just under 100 miles each way, so my backside will cope ok. The longest ride I’ve had was around 4 hours and it does punish my butt.
Hope the ride was good! And thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Brilliant, sensible, useful and inspirational review. Good info. about the tyres. My V7 111 special doesn't like white lines
either. Agree with everything you say. There is no need to travel everywhere at 100 mph. I fitted a Hepco centre stand
which was well worth doing.
Gosh, thanks Philip. Genuinely good to know the review was of some use. The BT45’s, without exaggeration were a game changer. The bike was still great fun with the Pirelli’s but they didn’t inspire total confidence and while I’m sure they wouldn’t cause any real problems, tyres are very much about feel. Also thanks for the tip about the centre stand - will definitely consider one. Thanks again for watching and taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.
Im considering this bike as my first Bike after passing the DAS course at age 50.
Am I crazy ?
I travel to Belgium from Wales once every month for work. Im thinking i could use it to commute
Hey Neil, good to hear from you. As a first bike the V7 is a cracker - it’s much more idiosyncratic than Japanese bikes in terms of feel, handling and engine but it’s super easy to use and ride.
Are you crazy then? No! Although using it for commuting is a bit crazy but only from the perspective of it being such a lovely and special bike 😀 It could do it easily!
Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.
This bike is special. It's not a spec sheet leader, but it's good enough at everything, and it's just damn cool. Also got plenty of character and odd little quirks, but none of that looks like it would be annoying in any way.
I think I'll be getting one soon.
This bike screams old school. That includes the maintenance schedule, by the way 😁
I'm more than fine with that though, those old bikes just ran and ran and ran when you looked after them, and it seems no one in the Moto Guzzi marketing department is queueing to sacrifice longevity for an extended oil change interval.
I recall one reviewer questioning why Piaggio isn't more aggressive in marketing Guzzis, but I think that's entirely intentional. A huge part of the cool factor of these bikes is that there just aren't that many of them out there. That makes them stand out. I think this is Piaggio's intention and I think they're right to do it. The right people will always find them 😉
Hello, great to hear from you and yes - the V7 is totally old school. It's not a modern bike made to look old, but an old design that's been tinkered with over time to become something really special. And you could be right about the marketing strategy - there still remains a certain cachet about Guzzi's and the fact they are not ubiquitious is a big part of that. Perhaps they are the boutique arm of the Piaggio empire? I think Piaggio have done something similar with Vespa also, although of course they sell millions on those in Italy.
Coolness is undefinable and certainly a part of it is being different and not trying too hard...to be cool. All the best, cheers, Phil.
Custard Cream! Nice. What was the luggage set up exactly? I heard Oxford? It looked super practical and easy to fit. A lot less faff than fitting panniers I imagine. And cheaper?
Morning Simon - thanks for your comments regarding both Guzzi videos, and yes, it’s a bike that really gets under your skin. Highway Code? Blimey, don’t fancy that but it will be worth it! As for the panniers, yes, they are an old set of Oxford Sport panniers - they will have been superseded by a new model equivalent now, but were no problem to fit and were fine during the trip - as you say, no faffing about needed and I reckon you can get a set for £70 or so. Good luck with the test! Cheers, Phil.
@@80eightReviews Brilliant, many thanks! I've been zipping around on my X-Max 125 for years. Great in the city but time to get something more powerful for weekends in the mountains! Will keep you posted....
Bit of a waste of a custard cream don't you think.
Well Michael, if it were a bourbon I’d probably agree. Custard creams? They’re asking for it. Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
You killed a custard cream. :(
Yeah I know and I scoffed a load also 😐 I’m off biscuits for a while now...Cheers, Phil.
Excellent real world review. Like the graphics you had on the twisty roads. Love Guzzi’s, strangely not ridden one yet! Great video, well done.
Thanks - glad you liked the review! Yes, the Guzzi is a lovely little thing - charmingly visceral and a ton of easy fun. Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Excellent review of your Moto Guzzi V7👍 One of the best! Greetings from Poland 🖐️ Where did you get these bags? Looks pretty nice on this bike 👌
Good morning from the UK! Glad you enjoyed the video and as for the bags, they’re an old set of ‘Oxford Sports Panniers’ that I’ve had for ages. This exact model isn’t available anymore but there are plenty of equivalents around. Any set with a sloping base (to clear the exhaust) and adjustable straps will do the job. Hope that helps and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
You covered this Motorcycle perfectly great video with very nice edit , probably best review i have seen on the V7 to date and a very honest one at that , hope to see more of your Guzzi Vids in future (subscribed)
Thanks, good to know the work is appreciated! The Guzzi is a special little bike, so it gets special treatment 😄 Thanks for the sub & for stopping by, cheers, Phil.
Hello Phil, I've had 4 V7's (and one Breva) and I'm tempted to return to the fold. I’ve ridden one or the other to the Arctic Circle, Marrakesh, Istanbul, the Greek Islands, and around Scotland (and Northumberland - I live in York). What nobody does like Guzzi is simplicity. We are bombarded with more and more technical wizardry, some of which is useful, but a lot is not (6 riding modes??). The V85 is good but still a little overloaded with un-necessaries (TFT dash - I don’t even know what ‘TFT’ means) and I don’t want tubed tires. I have a lovely and not too complicated BMW f700gs (which I’m keeping) having got fed-up with the weaknesses of the Guzzis: engine casing and shaft-drive oils leaks, oil leaking into the airbox, and various bolts dropping out, ‘white-finger’ from the vibrations, and no suitable handguards (there is too much rain and coldness in our part of the world not to have these). But love is love! Not only that, there bargains at present. Also, Hepco-Becker are now doing top-loading panniers to fit which make long-distance touring more doable. Are your still happy with yours? Any faults? Thank you, stay safe, Peter
Good afternoon Peter, isn’t it odd that even a short trip between York and Northumberland now feels unimaginable and almost exotic...Some interesting trips you’ve done on your previous Guzzi’s. I’ve done similar trips to Morocco, Turkey, Syria and Lebanon and finally made it to Jordan and Egypt for the all important motorbike in front of Petra and Pyramids shot. Loved Turkey - huge country, wildly disparate scenery - especially loved the Black Sea coast. Unlike you I put my faith in Japanese machinery - DR350 and a XR600, both of which were brilliant. And simple - just like the V7. So reliability - I’ve done around 7000 miles on the V7 so far - I was planning another trip this year but that will have to wait. Despite that the bike has been completely solid - oil tight engine and shaft drive, no electrical or fuelling issues - it doesn’t even seem to use oil. It’s built to a simple yet overall good standard. There’s nothing flash in any of the finishes but it all seems quite robust. The engine paint is still 100% intact, no rust and nothing has fallen off! I was a little concerned when I first got it - obviously being aware of their reputation in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s, but now I trust it and would certainly (and will) take it on many more long trips. It feels well put together - not shonky at all and there are tales of folk doing huge mileages on them. I get white finger really easily - especially in 4 cylinder bikes - on the Guzzi, even when I was sat in the saddle for 8 hours thrumming my way over to Switzerland a few years back, I felt nothing - once the engine is spinning it really smooths out. The traction control is rubbish though - very intrusive, so now I just switch it off before every ride, which is easy enough to do by pressing the starter again once the engine is running. I’ve ridden the V7II and would say the III offers a bit more power and improved handling and it hasn’t got the old heron head - so would be the one worth getting. Anyway, hope that helps a bit, hope all is well in York...And thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Oh, the suspension is pretty basic - not much damping and quite harsh - mechanically it’s fine though...I’ve just got used to watching out for bumps and lifting myself up out of the saddle as required!
Hi man, excellent review !!! I started to make a driver licens because of this V7..i felt in love with this bike..do you think, that this is a good bike for a beginner.?.thnx for answer a greeting from Czech Republic !!!
Hello Michal, thanks for stopping by and yes, the V7 is a perfect beginners bike - light, low, easy to handle but also has enough go, handling and charm to keep you interested for years and years. Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.
Some motojournalist, perhaps Kevin Cameron, wrote that the best motorcycles were the ones that you rode when you were twenty, because that is what made such an impression on you at the time. In an attempt to miminize the vibration that plagued many motorcycles in the 1960s, my dad bought several BMWs starting in 1967 and into the 1970s, and when I started riding streetbikes, I got to enjoy working on and riding these airhead Beemers. To me, the overall good vibration, weight, and handling of my V7 Guzzi is quite reminiscent of the feeling of riding my old BMWs; it is magical to ride down the same roads on a new bike that evokes such good memories of the "best of" my old bikes.
Hmm...Good theory...although at 20 I was riding a GPZ900 and I’ve really gone off inline fours these days (they make my hands go numb)...Perhaps the theory can work in the inverse?
But yes, the Guzzi is magical - it has enough of everything and is totally charming. I can see me riding it when 75 😄
Yes David, the singles and vertical twins of the day had their inherent vibration, the Japanese introduced counter balancers to reduce vibration in twins, Triumph and BSA brought in the triples, which produced more power but also reduced, or rather changed the vibes to a new frequency lol. BMWs were beyond the pocket of most working blokes, and the young "rockers" wanted Triumphs and Nortons, so beemers were seen as a "toffs" bike where I grew up, Fast forward 18 years or so and having had a number of Japanese fours (including a Rickman Z900) I looked at the BMW R100RS or the new Guzzi Spada, I sensed a bit of a sneer from the BMW salesman when I turned up on my Rickman, but at the guzzi dealers, Twig Forrest, the boss, said "bloody hell, you'd better take the Spada for the weekend after riding that". Less than a mile from the dealers, I was sold, many miles in all weather were ridden on the Spada.
@@80eightReviews 5K rpm, the UJM inline four vibespot, leading to "whitefinger" or Raynauds syndrome if you were posh, All bikes have a degree of vibration I suppose, just different frequencies, I suppose todays machines are all balanced etc,
I despair of some of todays motorcyclists who, if they try a guzzi/harley etc say "its lumpy" or it vibrates, the other comment is that there buffeting from the wind- thats because its a motorcycle not a car.
These days I much prefer 'touring' on a bike with no fairing, even in bad weather. Kit is so much better than it used to be + it feels much more elemental. Also I guess, with age, I'm not particularly minded to sit behind a fairing at 100 mph for hours on end. Old fart? Possibly :-)
Such a beautifull experience, please add others videos with your v7, thanks!
Thanks for the feedback! I’ll try! Cheers, Phil.
What an excellent and informative video! Well shot, edited and considered. Thanks from Melbourne
Good morning from the UK David. Many thanks for your kind comments and good to know the video is appreciated across continents. Let’s hope the entente-cordiale continues during The Ashes 😀 Cracking century by Smith (unfortunately!) Cheers, Phil.
I really really enjoy your videos! We don’t ride the same, I am more the young idiot but your feedback is very intersting! Then comes the beautiful visuals and your calm voice!
Considering one of these myself. I currently own a Harley 48. Plenty of torque wich pushes me to ride faster but the other parts of the bike just don’t follow! I’ve had very powerful bikes but this one is scary under the rain. The forks doesn’t handle bumps...wich makes the braking tricky... And the the pegs...let’s say the road took an inch off of them...
I’m hoping to get that feeling of layed back do it all that I had when I started riding! Had a couple of Suzuki 600 Djebel...not fast but fun, stupid simple, camel like fuel tank, unstoppable...
I still have an old ZX6R 98 if stupid mode kicks in...
Hello! Thanks for your kind comments - much appreciated! I too was a young idiot once...19 years old with a GPZ900R complete with a 16” front wheel. I remember it well. I think. The Guzzi is a lovely thing, by rights it shouldn’t really work and in many ways it’s an anachronism...However, it has a gorgeous blend of practicality, loveliness and quark, strangeness and charm. Also it really makes you think about your riding and how you read the road. I’m smitten - but you probably guessed that. Calm voice? Blimey...a product of state education and a poor 70’s diet probably 😀 Thanks for stopping by! Cheers, Phil.
I have been riding since I was in gradeschool,, over 50 years now, on and off-road. I have been riding a Guzzi V7 Stone for the last year and a half, and it puts a big smile on my face. I also like words and history as much as I like motorcycles. I'm an American, but my children agree that I would make a good eccentric Englishman from an earlier era, based on many of my proclivities. When I was seven years old, I remember looking at a list of possible pen-pals from different countries, and being fascinated by the addresses in England, and so your address reminded me of that, very elaborate and descriptive. And I remember my dad saying that he agreed, and we made up what we thought were funny examples that went something like the following: The Englishman's first name was Derek, Graham, or Nigel, and the address wasn't something simple like 112 Main St, Anywhere, USA, oh no, it was 3 and one-half, Down-the-Lane from the Tinker, over the Stile and through the Copse and across Wimbly Appley Bridge, past Derek and Don Rickman's cottage (I loved reading about the Rickman Bros and looking at pictures of their bikes), Buckingham Worcestershire Spotted Dick, Toad in the Hole, Bubble and Squeak, Geoffrey Chaucer Roundabout, Slyding-On-The-Bannister, Barbour-Belstaff Ariel Square-Four, Stiff Upper Lip, London England, WA12DL. I used that postal code because, if memory serves, it was the actual post code of Lewis Leathers, from whom I ordered my first waxed cotton Belstaff suit in 1976.... I hope you don't accuse me of Yankee impudence. I think your videos are first-rate.
Good morning David, hmmm...There are a lot of eccentric Englishman where I live - usually characterised by wayward / asymmetrical haircuts, mustard coloured trousers and slightly bloodshot eyes :-) In terms of addresses, well, just down the road from me we've got 'Foul Ford' & 'Oil Mill Lane' and round the corner 'Love Lane'...Not sure what goes on there..Also, my dad was called Derek! Anyway, good to know there are committed Anglophiles across the water! Personally, I'm obsessed by the visual vocabulary of the great American Movie, surburbia, filling stations, motels, the heat haze on deserted roads, cops hiding behind billboards (Do they actually do that?)...So the feeling is mutual! Lewis Leathers...That takes me back - I had one of their jackets years ago, thick, squeaky with a lovely red lining. You've also piqued my curiosity so I'm going to check the post code now! However, many thanks for your interesting comments (that seems too little a word to describe your text) & it's good to know the video works outside of my little UK bubble, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
I also ride a GB 500 Honda that I bought new (looks like a classic British single), and I have an old photo of me on it wearing a safari bush jacket, zulu pith helmet, wool fingerless gloves, a box of Constant Comment tea sitting on the tank, and me proffering a cup of tea to the person taking the snapshot. The location was southern Idaho. But I had to doff the pith helmet and put on a helmet to actually ride legally, and anyway the pith helmet would have blown off. And if I am really being honest, I must admit that I plagiarized the "Slyding-On-The-Bannister" name from Michael Shuter, who wrote a humorous monthly column called The Downhill Straight in Cycle Magazine in the late 1960s and early 70s. I don't know why the address for Lewis Leathers would stick in my head, but I think it was Lewis Leathers Ltd, 123 Gt. Portland St., London, W1A2DL, not WA12DL. Check and let me know if I am right. All you have to do is check out the ads in one of issues of your old bike mags. You do have a stack of them, no? Even if I am wrong, at least I am trying.
Morning David, ok, I agree completely with your children 😀 And a GB500...Very nice! Must dash, I need to don tweed and monocle and head off for work on my penny farthing....Cheers, Phil.
Thanks for this joyful look at the V7 III . What is it that makes certain bikes really good companions .. You show a definite affection for this bike. I am doing much the same kind of back road riding here in New England on a 900 Street Scrambler. I added a wooden pannier for a rain suit and banjo carrier (for sunny day riding ) .. As a young adult in the 1970's I had an R80 and have missed that bike for years .. I think the V7III is about as close a match to that bike as is made today ..I would love if BMW just remade the R69s :) ... So many bikes to try ..The new Tiger 900 looks like a great step forward as well in another direction .. Thanks again for a great clip .. Would love to ride up the west of Scotland someday ..Hexham down to Penrith would be fun as well .. Can't wait till we can get back to it ..Stay safe .. I am 80 miles north of New York City and its still pretty bad here .. Thanks again Phill
Hey Guy, good to hear from you and good to know the video is appreciated. While I would never anthropomorphise a mere machine, you're right in that Guzzi fulfils a number of traits, that we as humans value. It's reliable, always puts a smile on my face, makes a nice sound and looks good. Also, I never feel as though I need to ride it according to the biking societal norms (which I try to ignore anyway) - it's not about speed. It's about being outside, enjoying the environment and the feeling of being pleasantly in control. Add to that it's incredibly practical and it's pretty much all I need. If you had fond memories of a 1970's R80 I think you and a Guzzi V7 would get on just fine.
As you suggest though, it's always good to try new things and experiences - hence my XSR900 (or a new Tiger 900) - which will be a blast for a few years, but will get replaced at some point. Scotland is great and over on the East Coast (where I am) Northumbria is a lovely and quiet place to ride and I'm very impressed with your knowledge of Northern England!
And yes, likewise - I'm looking forward to a semblance of normality at some point. I read a lot about NYC but if any city or its residents could be described as a force of nature & a resilient one at that - then it's there. Hope things improve soon...Thanks for stopping by, Cheers, Phil.
Excellent video production and review. So glad I happened upon your motovlog. A confirmed subscriber.
Evening James, it’s good to know the work is appreciated...Although, to call riding around on a Guzzi, in the sunshine and occasionally pointing a camera at it is probably stretching the definition of work somewhat 😀 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.
Nice video mate, had a few guzzis and loved em all, easy to own and service, smaller capacity motors are often nicer than the 1000s. V Twins are possibly the best configuration for motorcycles. I've lived in France for the last 15 years, Brits often underestimate the size and scale of the country and the continent. Love em or hate em, satnavs are now a great tool for navigating D roads, some of which are fantastic, if you only have a week, lower your sights and use the infernal satnavs to enjoy traffic free D roads etc.
Thanks very much! My trip had to be cut short by four days and I’d already made arrangements in Switzerland, hence the mad dash! Otherwise yeah, d roads all the way with a crumpled up paper map, so guaranteed to get lost and find somewhere interesting 😀 France is brilliant, very jealous! As for V-Twin’s...Couldn’t agree more, one reason being that I’ve never had white finger on the Guzzi...While a four or a triple always brings it on. Anyway, thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment, much appreciated, cheers, Phil.
Guzzi forever👍
Morning David,
I really can’t argue with that. They are the best. Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
I was interested in one until I realized the Ducati Scrambler has like 30 more HP , way better/modern suspension , LED headlight and the engine doesn't stick out the sides , and is about the same price.
I think this wins on MPG/tank size and looks easier to mount. Cylinders keeping legs warm in cold weather ?
Good morning Mr Barnaby, thanks for stopping by. Well, the items you have listed are the very things that make the V7III so totally brilliant! Especially the ‘sticky out engine’ 😀 And over here at least, the Scrambler is £10K compared to the Guzzi at £8.2K (for the new 850). And on that the new 850 has an extra 15 or so HP over the old bike so it’s getting closer.
Either way, it’s all about choices and opinions. Guzzi’s are….quite unique for a mass produced bike and they ride and look unique also. I do like the Scrambler but you know, sometimes only a Guzzi will do. At least for me anyway. Have a great day, cheers, Phil.
Here in USA , nice dress shoes are called Oxfords.
"Oxfords were derived from the Oxonian, a half-boot with side slits that gained popularity at Oxford University in 1800"😀.
Hello again! Ah! I didn’t know that - yet, oddly enough, having just looked up the shoe (as you do) I’ve owned several pairs 😀 Thanks for clearing up a possibly embarrassing misinterpretation - folk could be very confused thinking a great way of carrying luggage on a Guzzi, is in your shoe 😀
Have a good day, cheers, Phil.
Exceptional production value! Congrats! I'm stealing the harmonica idea! :)
Thanks! Steal away 😀 Cheers, Phil.
Love custard creams. Like the emergency biscuit in the tin. Always hits the spot. Great vlog.
Totally agree / I’m stocking up in my bunker ready for the apocalypse / zombie invasion / plague of frogs etc. Not quite sure how I’ll feel after 3 months on a custard cream diet so I might mix it up with a garibaldi or two. Thanks for watching! Cheers, Phil.
Fantastic photography, graphics, detail and subject matter. Really well presented.
Evening Steve, thanks for your kind comments. I decided with my last 3 videos to treat them as I would a music video / quick cuts / a tight edit / use only the best shots / remove all waste. Complete madness of course - as 6 minutes takes 16 weeks, but it’s all good fun 😀 Anyway, thanks for watching and for taking the time to stop by, cheers, Phil.
80:8 Photography & Design Thoroughly agree with you, quality vs. quantity and it comes through, big time. Your post was also quite poignant as I too have recently ventured from Hull to Zeebrugge, the first time on this route and noted several bikes making their way to and from Belgium . Back in the late 70’s we, for a few years, ventured south on two wheels from Tyneside and crossed the channel to Calais for some welcome sun on our backs and, like you, reading long-hand directions stuck to tank bags. If only I’d kept that Z900. Still, my current Ducati Scrambler gets me around the North Yorks Moors. Keep up the good work and best wishes.
Thanks again Steve and yeah, GPS is overrated! Cheers, Phil.
Nice vid, well made and entertaining. Thank you.
About to get on my rebuilt '81 Spada after 30 years (yes you read that right) of storing it in a mate's barn, and after much research just bought a Merlin jacket too. A V-twin, a shaft, and a brown waxie jacket. Validation :)
Thanks Peter! 30 years? Blimey...As for your summation of validation...I couldn’t have put it better myself. Great jacket the Merlin and a great price. Thanks for watching and hope you have a great summer on the Spada, cheers, Phil.
Beautiful description about this bike . Very professional and crisp. Exactly what I like to hear. I could not find you in fb or his contact details .
Thanks Srinivasan! Great to know the work is appreciated! The Guzzi is just great...It’s totally my forever bike...Even though I’ve said that a million times before. Thanks for stopping by & taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.
Yes, this bike will do just about anything you ask of it all while looking good. I added a Puig windscreen to mine, you really need that for touring. Here's my only gripe that taller people should know about. I'm 6'4" (194cm) and I can really only tolerate an hour to an hour and a half in the seat before my tailbone needs a rest, it is not really built for tall people, so keep that in mind. I plan on getting a higher seat and raising the handlebars a bit, but since I have no touring planned at the moment cruising around town is just fine.
Great video 👍
Morning Thomas, thanks for watching and for taking the time to leave a lot of information for taller riders (I don’t have that problem!)...Cheers, Phil.
Great review! Also good to hear from someone as tall as me, i am also 194cm. Thinking of buying a V7, for regular riding but also touring.
Very good review and some lovely photography. Glad to hear the machine is living up to expectations, a proper classic. 👍🏻
Hey Simon - it certainly is. Roll on summer, cheers, Phil.
Such a beautiful bike !Also loved all the different sceneries you’ve been ! Good job keep the videos coming!👏👏
Good morning - good to know you enjoyed the video, thanks. Not sure when the next video is coming out of course, but I’ve got a new bike which I’m desperate to ride and film! Fingers crossed it’s not too far away. Hope things are not too bad where you are and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Hi!
What screen have you got installed on the bike?
Also, what’s the military green bike jacket seen in the video?
Asking for a friend :)
Morning Jacek, thanks for stopping by. The screen is a Dart Flyscreen www.dartflyscreens.co.uk it’s well priced and exceptionally good quality. As for the jacket, it’s more brown in real life and it’s made by Merlin. Again, a very good price and fabulous quality. Hope that helps, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Test rode a V7iii today, encouraged by your well founded enthusiasm. The combination of this highly engaging and very capable little motorbike and the sunny, stunning Cleveland Hills proved irresistible. Order placed, might have to wait a few weeks. Congratulations on your life affirming channel.
Evening Stephen - I think you have chosen the perfect adjective there “engaging” where that is nothing about speed or handling just how you feel on the bike. And that it is also so capable and practical is a rare achievement. For me it is the bike I can see myself riding until I can ride no more and perhaps that is where the life affirming aspect comes in. Thanks so much for stopping by and what a brilliant few weeks of expectation you have in store. Hope all goes well, cheers, Phil.
Test ride was convincing for me also, placed the order right after, got my prefered color (red) and ride it since June 18! What a great and unique bike, don't see much of there around here (Qc, Canada)
Nice review as I’m thinking about this one . I guess it would be great here in the Philippines.
Thanks for stopping by and glad you enjoyed the review. The Guzzi would be great anywhere! Cheers, Phil.
Why did you run over that custard cream? What about all the poor boys?
Afternoon Mark, yeah, I know, it's indefensible really. Still, as I was leaving there were some little birds pecking at the crumbs on the ground so it didn't go completely to waste. I scoffed the others though.
All the best, cheers, Phil.
Excellent video. I just picked up a leftover '20 Rough here in the States and love it. A good friend of mine bought a Stornello in '16 and is the only one here in Richmond VA. One ride on that bike sold me on the V7 and I had to have one. 3 years later, I grabbed the Rough and am looking quite forward to touring some east coast states with it. Thank for the comprehensive take on this absolute gem of a bike.
Thanks Colin, great to know you enjoyed the video and I’m sure you’ll have an absolute blast on the Rough. Such a beautiful and fun bike to ride, own and just to be kinda proud of. Hope all is well where you are, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
About 150 miles is my comfy spot let alone the bike ha.
I hope you don't play your harmonica with a mouthful of biscuit crumbs :)
Hey Jonathan, good lord no...imagine the cleaning required - doesn’t bear thinking about 😄 Enough if that - thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.
I couldn't ride a bike 550 miles in one day if my life depended on it. If I did somebody would have to help me off the bike. I could do 550 miles in my old Buick but that would be pushing it lol.
Morning! Er, yes - it was a case of needs must essentially, but it did it and I didn't need painkillers the next day :-) Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
it's annoying how people whine and whine about riding long distances on the guzzi....I've done a 20 day ride 500 to 600 kms a day with no troubles!!! It's really a tourer! Buy a riser and carry on....
Good afternoon - I totally agree!
I found it extremely comfortable and still fun and easy to ride even after 6-8 hours in the saddle. So much so that even after a long a day riding / in-transit, I'd still go out in the evening for a few hours. That, plus the absolutely ease and simplicity of use, tank range and economy make it just about perfect. Really looking forward to try the 850 - if it has all those same characteristics plus the hike in power, it should be spot on. Shame about what they've done to the Stone though with that DRL and TFT display - what were they thinking of!
Anyway, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
@@80eightReviews I agree about the DRL and TFT.
Have you reviewed any bikes which are likened to a chocolate digestive? Bound to be my ideal bike.
Morning Steven, I’m still looking - although my ideal would be a bourbon to be honest. The big question when it comes to chocolate digestives though is dark or milk? Thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.
Hi, nice review.
I have a V7iii special and I am looking for some throw over luggage for a big trip through Europe.
Did your luggage make contact with the tyres at any point? In the sense, is it better to get a frame to keep the bags from swinging or do they stay where they are whilst riding?
thanks in advance
Marco
Morning Marco, good to know you enjoyed the review. As for the panniers - they stayed well away from the tyres as essentially the rear shocks stop them from swinging into the wheel and as the panniers are not strapped down and have a backing which is friction free, they don’t impede the shocks either. It’s a solo only solution though as to get them in the right position they are mounted well forward. Overall I had no problems in nearly 2000 miles, the luggage stayed totally secure, felt very safe and didn’t flap around. And it’s simple!
Hope that helps and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
@@80eightReviews Morning, thank you for the quick response that is definitely helping my decision making for getting throw overs!
Best wishes. M
What a rounded and insightful review. It’s like I was there👍🏾
Thanks very much - really appreciate your kind comments and glad you enjoyed the review. Gosh, that video seems like years ago! Hope all is well where you are, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Cheery Bye? Love it. This bike is tempting me to trade in my Bonneville T120. Chain maintenance on the Bonnie is a royal pain. But, I love the engine!
Morning Richard, well, the T120 is a fabulous bike and of course has a lot more power than the V7, however, I must say that I never feel like the Guzzi is too slow or anything - it’s really quite sprightly, can cruise at over 80mph with enough in hand for overtaking. The experience of the Guzzi is all about the roll and rumble of that air cooled engine, it’s a total delight. And, yes, shaft drive is brilliant - while it means you have to finesse the clutch when changing down, again, that’s all part of the experience. No issues with mine so far and no corrosion. Love it. Hope that helps 😇 and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
To me the V7 are a lot smoother than the T120. The Bonneville is a beautiful bike but it feels heavier, less agile and the engine has more character. (I have owned both bikes for several years). Regards
Smoother? Wow - I wouldn’t have guessed that - although you’re probably right as the V7 smooths out beautifully once’s it’s going. Agile...great word, totally agree...Sounds like the T120 might be going! Cheers, Phil.
My my, you actually read my comment! I also like the Americana stuff that you mentioned; I call it "Route 66.
Love the video. Thinking about buying one, and this one made even more interested.
Thanks Tom, glad you enjoyed it. I find the V7 not only super lovely to look at, it’s a ton of fun to ride, so easy to get on with and so incredibly useful and practical. And it rattled and rolls. It never fails to make me smile. Let me know how the thinking goes! Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Great review ... also thinking about buying one.
Thank you for your excellent Moto Guzzi V7 lll videos. Because of you I’m buying one. I was dubting because in the USA everything has to be big, with a lot of torque but nobody uses that toque and power at 100%, never, so its money for nothing. In my opinion the V7 is a simply beautiful and useful motorcycle for all purposes that you can ride even when you”re 70 years old. I have a Triumph Scrambler (the original one, the 900) and I ride the world with her, but now I feel that I need something different, not so heavy, but different too. Again, thanks a lot.
Morning Xavi - very good to know the two videos have been helpful. And you’re going to buy one? Wow! I like a bit of speed and power as much as anyone, but as you suggest, 50 horsepower in a light, easy to ride bike on the right roads is brilliant fun and more than enough. For me it’s about getting the most out of a bike - personally I can’t do that on a Fireblade for example (though others can) but on the Guzzi I feel I’m using all of it and that’s a nice feeling - even if the suspension is a bit crashy. That’s all part of the fun though! Funny you mention riding it at 70....this is definitely my retirement bike and I think with a patina of age on it, it’s going to look even more beautiful and will be even more different. Let me know how you get on and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
A couple of weeks ago I went for a test ride and, unfortunately, the lack of power was determinant to not to buy probably one of the most beautiful bikes ever. Instead I purchased a Triumph Bonneville T120. Thank you anyway and ride safely.
Hey Xavi, well, you’re not going to go wrong with a T120. Even so, given your description of the Guzzi, I reckon there’s going to be one in your life at some point...It’s just a question of timing 😄After all it took me 30 years of thinking about Guzzi’s before actually getting one. Anyway hope you enjoy the T120, cheers, Phil.
I had a T120 and rode a V7 111 back to back.To be honest the V7 didn't feel much slower.The Triumph felt more solid and composed though.The V7 111 is quite a big improvement on the version one and two I think.
Is that a Dart flyscreen? Does is reduce the windblast much? Nice review. gotta love a Guzzi!
Evening Richard, good to know you enjoyed the review. Yes, it’s a Dart Flyscreen - in terms of windblast, it’s difficult to compare as the windblast is probably about the same, but it is deflected a little and doesn’t hit you square in the chest. While on holiday I managed a steady 80+ and felt no aches or tiredness at all in my arms, neck or shoulders. Without the screen you’d probably need to reduce speed by a few mph. One thing the screen does do though, is make the wind roar much louder. Aside from that, the screen is incredibly well made, easy to fit and looks good. All at a reasonable price...Gotta love a Guzzi? Yeah, I’m smitten 😀 thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
I also have a Dart windscreen, the Marlin and I would agree that it does deflect a bit of wind off the chest but the difference is a subtle one, not dramatic. I use it primarily in winter months because it makes for a slightly warmer ride with less cold air hitting the jacket zipper in front. I also have the Piranha that I use in summer months, mostly because it looks clean but that one is small enough that it makes no difference compared to riding without a screen. Note that the brackets for both windscreen models are different sizes.
Looking at going 2 wheels, it seems tyres on motorcycles are very short lived. I have become aware that these tyre rubbers are a bit like the glue on post-it notes with a limited temperature range. The mileage is better than F1 qualifiers, but I still have raise an eyebrow over it. Are these Bridgestones extra soft with more grip, or does it come with motorcycle riding?
Good morning! The Bridgestones are not that soft when compared to other bike tyres and certainly nothing like a sports tyre and for me the wear rate is about what I’d expect. With a bike tyre, compared to a car tyre, there’s a lot more torque/force going through a much smaller contact patch, the compound is also softer given that fact and that of course a bike needs to lean. Bikes generally accelerate much quicker, so friction between road and tyre is higher also. Feel is a big part of it also. I’ve ridden some tyres (back in the old days) that lasted forever but felt like I was riding on hard plastic - just horrible. Once you start riding you find you need total confidence in your tyres as it’s that which keeps you the right side up and good, grippy, well steering tyre is key to that. Also, of course, bikes are all about being “enthusiastic” which has a big part to play in tyre life! Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.
@@80eightReviews- excellent, thanks for your in depth reply
Excellent vídeo and review, thanks for share!
Good evening! Thanks for stopping by and good to know you enjoyed the review, cheers, Phil.
Great bike, great review. I was looking at getting a Guzzi, but I went Japanese in the final decision.
Still, I have a soft spot for the Guzzi and went to Mandello del Lario this year and last year for the festival. I highly recommend going through the Swiss Alps. Maloja Pass.
Subscribed. Cheers.
Evening Gerhard, thanks for your kind comments. I think, if you still have a soft spot for a Guzzi, one is going to end up in your life at some point...It took me 35 years but I got there in the end! As for the Maloja Pass, I’ll check it out next time I’m over there, thanks for the recommendation. Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Thanks for an interesting, useful and (yet again)artfully filmed review. Really enjoyed it.
Thanks Jean-Paul! Good to know the effort is appreciated! Thanks for watching and taking the time to stop by, cheers, Phil.
This video was just a delight to watch. The harmonica in the end was the absolute cherry on top. Thank you for the info! Do you think there might be a way to adapt some luggage to the rear end of the bike while also being able to carry a pillion? As someone has previously said in the comments I was going for the RE Interceptor 650 but after seeing this Moto Guzzi I'm almost most inclined towards this one. Thanks!
Good evening! Thanks for your kind comments - I’m still learning the harmonica but I think it kinda goes with the Guzzi 😀 As for the luggage I guess your options are a rear rack and fitting some pannier rails for either soft or hard luggage - there are options out there which will work and still allow a pillion. The RE is a great bike I’m sure...The Guzzi though is kinda unique and the engine is just something else both visually and to use. Plus it makes a useful few more HP and torque as you might expect. Mine has been totally reliable and has loosened up beautifully - love it and I’m usually really fickle! Hope that helps & thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
@@80eightReviews It did help! You being optimistic about the option itself was all I wanted to read. Cheers!
If the essence of good entertainment is to always leave the audience wanting more, you've nailed it! Love the custard team analogy - my favourite biscuit, so perhaps I'd better get dunking on a V7?👍🤔😁
Thanks Matt! Of course there is a school of thought that says dunking a biscuit with a filling is in someways inappropriate, but you know, if it works for you, then why not 😄 Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.
@@80eightReviews As I'm sure you'll appreciate, custard creams take a certain amount of skill to dunk successfully, given the different absorption rates and associated sheer values of biscuit and filling! Thanks again for your informative and visually engaging videos - a proper treat 👏
This wins on tank-size MPG a guy at my gym got a nicely kept 2018 or 2019 one for 5k USD. Wonderful looking in person. Some bikes this size only get mid-40MPG.
Good morning Mr Barnaby, thanks for stopping and it’s good to hear from you. You’re exactly right about the tank size and mpg - the bike is easily capable of over 220 miles to a tank, with some in reserve. Add to that shaft drive and it’s a great basic and little touring bike. I loved mine!
Hope all is well with you, cheers, Phil.
Some good advice there, the Guzzi is one of those bikes I keep meaning to test ride. And the shaft drive is a great bonus. I don't know if I could part with my Street Scrambler though!....Also liking the look of the Guzzi new Adventure bike. My heart sunk when the Custard Cream was sacrificed. Roll on spring!
Good morning! Choices, choices...😀 Apologies for the custard cream incident - I’d like to say it survived to be scoffed another day but I’d be lying. Although the scrambler and the Guzzi are very close spec wise and also in terms of visual loveliness - the Guzzi is going to ride a little more old school than the Triumph. And as for what’s better that’s purely subjective...you’ll just have to try one! Anyway thanks for tuning in and taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.
Nice vid. I ride a touring focused ER6F (big screen etc) and even I try to limit myself to 100 - 125 miles a day on that.
Also YES! When I had a V7 those Pirellis were AWFUL. Terrifying over white lines.
Evening! Yes, I was a bit too ambitious at 500 miles in a day to be honest. Still, gotta make the most of 6 days off! As for the Pirelli’s - spot on...they are really horrible tyres! Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Greetings from Wisconsin USA! Great video! I have the same bike, and is my first new bike. I’ve started riding again after about 10 years off, took my MSF (learners course) & wanted this bike ever since I laid eyes on it. My comment is in reference to your comment about tires, and is SPOT ON, as to what I’ve felt on the stock Pirelli’s. You’ve perfectly put into words what I’ve been trying to research since I made my purchase. I thought it was just my inexperience, but they seem to grip into every little rut in the road. Going through a construction zone, where the lanes have been moved is terrifying. It really took a lot of joy out of the riding experience, and made me second-guess my purchase. Next year, my first order of business is to get the BT45’s installed. Thank you very much! Stay safe!
Hey Ryan, greetings from Northumberland, UK! Many thanks for your kind comments - very much appreciated. It’s good to know the Guzzi is weaving its emotional magic elsewhere 😀 As for the tyres, I now realise that when I had a test ride, the demo bike wasn’t fitted with the Pirelli’s, so you can imagine my shock when picking my own bike up and riding it 60 miles home. I thought I’d made a big mistake...My wife asked me how it was and I kinda found myself making up excuses for it...The BT’s totally transform it though and seem to be wearing very well. Anyway thanks for watching, taking the time to stop by and safe riding in the US, cheers, Phil.
@@80eightReviews I forgot to ask what sizes you got for your tires. I found a front that's an exact match to the stock, but couldn't find an exact for the rear. If you could provide the sizes you used, I'd much appreciate it. Thanks again!
Morning Ryan - I got these fitted (BT-45's) and they totally transform the feel compared to the Pirelli's - can't recommend them enough, hope that helps, cheers, Phil.
Front tyre: 100/ 90 18 56V Rear tyre: 130/ 80 17 65H
80:8 Photography & Design Thank you sir! Spring cannot come soon enough!
Thanks for the video. I was also wondering about long distance riding on the V7 III. I'm looking for a modern classic styled bike with shaft drive which placed Moto Guzzi on my list. I am a little worried about clutch replacements. Have you ever done that on this bike? Thx
Hello! I’ve had zero problems with the V7 and the clutch feels exactly as it did when new - light, no slip and a consistent bite point hot or cold. I haven’t even adjusted it (7000 miles). If I could go on a trip next week and cover 5000 miles I wouldn’t hesitate. It feels robust and it gets revved hard, which, as some old bearded Guzzi wizard told me, is the right thing to do. Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.
Hey great video. Thanks. How does it behave at motorway speed, say 60 - 70 mph? Does it feel composed? Vibey? Are the mirrors still clear up at those speeds?
Hello! The bike is fine at speed - totally composed at speeds of 75 mph+, no intrusive vibrations, mirrors clear & no white fingers. Wind noise is quite high, so earplugs are pretty much essential - despite that, there’s no strain on neck / shoulders. Quite incredible really! Hope that helps & thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
"Operating [the side stand] is a bit like trying to unfold... somebody else's rusty prosthetic leg with your own prosthetic leg." That gave me a good laugh.
Ha ha Don't ask me how I came up with the analogy :-) Thanks for watching and for stopping by, cheers, Phil.
Great review! I've owned one (in blue) since December and love its simplicity and relaxed pace... Really allows me to enjoy the environment more than my sports bike. I've fitted Oxford heated grips too but was wondering where you located the controller on your bike?
Good morning and thank you! Enjoying the environment is exactly what the bike is about. As for the heated grips I fitted the scooter grips (not quite as warm but a smaller controller) and the controls are in the centre of the handlebar. Not ideal but works ok, hope that helps and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
4:24 These Oxford panniers - very practical indeed. What will fit there? Protector boots, rain suit ?! SIC!
Afternoon - the panniers were really good actually - they expand quite a lot and I took enough stuff for a 7 day solo trip with a few tools etc. Given the mounting position, it's not possible to take pillion, but hey :-) Right must dash, sunny weather here! Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
You may have found the perfect second bike for me!! It's taken me quite some time looking at a range of naked bikes from Ducati, BMW and Yamaha's XSR/MT09. Your video reminded me that a naked bike should be involving to ride providing a visceral and auditory experience enabling one to enjoy everything around them as if they are part of it.
My main bike is a BMW R1250RT an ultra efficient bike that loves to effortlessly travel from A to B. The latest V7 may provide the perfect contrast with its simple and enjoyable riding experience reminding me why I took up motorcycling in the first place.
I previously owned and customised a V9 Bobber (had the V7 tank fitted and a lot of extras from Baak) and sold it nearly 18 months ago. Moto Guzzis are very well made, durable and extremely easy to work on.
Thanks to your reviews I am now fighting the temptation to buy another one, though this time it will be the V7 iii. I particularly like the matt green paint finish of yours!
Thank you for your beautifully composed videos and your genuine no nonsense approach.
Hey Guy, thanks for the kind and interesting comments. If you are looking for an antidote to effortless efficiency, then the V7 would do the job perfectly. And that’s not to say it isn’t practical or reliable - it certainly is, however there is very much the sense of having to think about how best to ride it, in order to get the best out of it. And even better, if you don’t feel like that - a gentle thrum and rattle around the countryside is just as enjoyable. No pressure to perform and no devil on your shoulder urging you to try out 170HP. There’s something about 50HP and light weight which really hits the sweet spot. There is much value in simplicity I think, although it’s difficult to put it exactly into words. I think you know though! Give in to the temptation Guy 😄 !!! Interested to hear about your V9 - I’m sort of semi keen on them. What’s the handling like? I’ve heard it can be a little vague? Anyway, thanks for stopping by...With an RT and V7 in the garage you’ve got two disparate machines with completely different riding experiences...Now if that isn’t something to look forward to after lockdown finishes, I don’t know is...Sorry 😄 Cheers, Phil.
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Hey Phil,
Thanks for your guidance as you have hit the nail squarely on the head! The V7 will be the perfect antidote!
I am waiting with bated breath to hear back from my local Moto Guzzi dealer who is advertising a very smart low mileage V7 iii Stone Night Pack model. I like the bright LED headlight for safety reasons.
You are absolutely right about the V9's vague handling which I put down to a combination of poor quality front and rear suspension, fat balloon style tyres, forward mounted footrests and forward mounted handlebars.
I got to work and replaced the standard front fork internals with fully adjustable ones from Matrix, rear suspension dampers with "Wide Big Body" models purchased from Baak. who also supplied a kit that enabled the footrests to be mounted approx. three inches further back. I replaced the straight handlebars with Baak's "Number One" design which provided an aesthetically pleasing swept back look to the bike. The above modifications certainly made a significant difference to the overall handling, comfort and control and the bike which became a joy to ride. Looking back I’m not sure why I sold it! I have just opened up a Flikr account and loaded on three photos to give you an idea of how it looked. You will see it had the V7 Special tank and V7 seat. Hopefully the link below will work!
www.flickr.com/photos/188295058@N07/
Cheers, Guy
Afternoon Guy, I agree! Why did you sell the V9!! It looks completely amazing! In terms of comparisons with the V7, well, you've still got basic suspension, however, everything else you mentioned as a negative on the V9, is not a problem on the V7 - so I'm sure you'll be just fine. And as for the suspension, it's just a question of riding around it - the handling per-se isn't compromised, but hitting a sharp edged bump can bounce you out of the seat - however, it stays mostly on line. Hope all goes well with the Stone / The night pack is particularly delicious! Thanks for stopping by again & great photo's. Will be keen to get your feedback of how the V7 engine compares to the V9 - in my idle time a V9 Bobber Sport is getting me a bit excited. Still don't like the look of the tyre though :-) Cheers, Phil.
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Good afternoon Phil, I sold the V9 because I have an 80 mile daily commute and it made sense to split the mileage between the R1250RT and another bike. I didn't find the V9 suited to regular motorway commuting especially with the congestion and poor lane discipline of the many car drivers I encountered. I part exchanged the V9 against a low mileage XT1200ZE which proved perfect for the purpose however employer recently announced they changed their policy about providing motorcycling parking which means I have to use the car, not ideal as a significant part of my commute is on the M25. Before watching your review the other Moto Guzzi I considered was the V85 TT!
Best regards Guy
Afternoon Guy - ah! Makes perfect sense! Not sure if I would fancy a V9 with that balloon front tyre on the M25 either! The V7 will be just fine & lane switching / car weaving will (almost) be enjoyable. As for the V85 - yes, I'd love to have a go of one and personally, I think the red/yellow one looks is eye-catching and really quite nice. Choices, choices! Cheers, Phil.
Thanks for the review. I am waiting to take delivery of my V7III this week so am really excited.
Interesting what you said about the BT45s. I have had several of the small block Guzzi (750 Breva and Nevadas). and one of the Nevadas was ok on BT 45s but the Breva and the other Nevada whitelined like a coke addict. But none of them worked well on Pirellis. Avon Roadriders worked really well. Wonder what Guzzi have done?
Having ridden the Nevada and Breva on several long trips around the UK, France and Austria I have no doubts the V7 will cope wonderfully with long trips.
There’s nothing like a new V7...Couldn’t sleep when I got mine and even now when a beautiful sunny day is forecast I’m all excited. Interestingly enough I’ve now got Avon’s on and I can’t really discern any difference to the BT’s - they might be a little better I think, grip and stability wise but not much in it. The Pirelli’s were just pure evil though. As for thrumming around Europe on a V7 there’s nothing quite like it. Hope you get some good weather this week and get some miles in, enjoy & thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.
One of the best revues I've ever seen. Outstanding job.
Thanks Craig, that’s really good to know. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, much appreciated, cheers, Phil.
Great review and good fun and great for me as a returning biker. A Moto Guzzi was the only major Italian marque I never owned. I've recently ridden the 850 Stone but I've also been looking at some nice older 750s.
Thanks Endo, glad you enjoyed the review and yes, you must own a Guzzi at some point in your life! And you won’t go far wrong with either version of the bike to be honest.
Let me know how you get on, cheers, Phil.
Great review - particularly from a practical viewpoint. May I ask how tall you are - and if you consider the V7 to be too small for a taller rider (6'2")?
Morning Richard, good to hear from and I’m glad you enjoyed the review.
As for how tall - I’m 5’10 and while the bike is very roomy, 6’2 might be at its limits…or yours! Having said that though, there’s plenty of room on the seat to shuffle back and unlike more modern bikes you are not fixed in one position, so you would have no problem “fitting” the bike but I don’t know how it would be from a comfort perspective on longer journeys.
I think you’d have to try one. It would be worth it because they are cracking bikes!
Hope that helps, all the best, cheers, Phil.
Hey Phil, enjoying your posts and review. Please can you tell me what jacket and jeans you were wearing for your tour? Thanks
Hey Cameron, thanks for stopping by and glad you’re enjoying the reviews and stuff.
The jacket is made by Merlin and that particular one is called the “Yoxall” while the denim jeans I usually wear are Furygan, though I think I may have been a little naughty in that video and worn 501’s as I was going walking somewhere. My leather jeans are RST.
I can say that all three items are great quality and do the job really well. Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.
I am a fan of Bridgestone for motorcycles they make your bike stick in corners.
Excellent review of your V7!
I have been looking for a nice simple retro styled bike for a while now and I think you have just tipped the balance towards the Moto Guzzi. I want to tour Europe next year and I could be on a V7!
Thank you.
Good evening Mike, thanks for your kind comments and it’s good to know the review is appreciated. The V7 is definitely more than the sum of its parts and spec...it’s a bike that makes you smile and is extremely capable and characterful. My keeper for life! Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
don't care about bikes or cars, but my dad was eager to show off his new all black mg v7iii stone. My jaw hit the floor, it's breath taking to look at. Even to me, someone who doesn't care about anything mechanical, its easy to see how other bikes could just seem ugly in comparison.
Hello! Well, you’ve picked up on one of the reasons why the Guzzi experience is so rewarding - it’s a non-aggressive, friendly looking machine that is almost the epitome of what a motorcycle should look like. Whenever I’m cleaning the bike outside my house, I get loads of comments from non-motorcyclists who just love the way it looks and want to talk about it. I think it’s got that sense of traditional mechanical style, similar to an old steam engine, which means you don’t really need to be an enthusiast to appreciate it. Let’s face it - a loud, snarling sports bike, just makes people feel threatened and annoyed. The Guzzi though, just wants to be everyone’s friend!
Hope your dad is enjoying his new bike and hope all is well where you are. Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Great review.
Would like to upgrade to one of these eventually.
Have you had any electrical issues? I've only heard of temperamental electricals at times that seem to correct itself, but otherwise a sound machine.
Thanks Gary, glad you enjoyed the review! As for electrical issues - none whatsoever. It’s always started on the button, everything works and no glitches. It genuinely feels like a robust machine - both mechanically and electrically...Hope that helps and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Great channel. Thanks for all your insights. I presume those Oxford bags put an end to any pillion transport?
Evening Craig - yes they do as essentially they are resting on the pillion pegs. Having said that though the bike is quite short anyway so aside from short rides, it’s not the best two up bike regardless. Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.
Great video but why would you kill a poor, defenseless custard cream?! I had to hide behind the sofa when it happened.
Thanks Jonathan! As for the custard cream - well, it had a choice - either crushed under the wheels of the mighty Guzzi or dunked in hot tea and scoffed like the rest of the packet. Personally, I’d say the Guzzi option was much more honourable + it is now immortalised forever! Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
What are the panniers bags you use? I'm looking for something like that for my V7 II
Good morning - the panniers are an old set of Oxford Sport panniers and they did the job really well. That particular model isn’t on sale anymore but Oxford Products do very similar / updated versions. Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.
I had a quick question. What’s your gear for rain?
I invested in a rubbish Barbour jacket and the bloody rain seeps through after about an hour.
Just curious as it’s the rain that puts me off.
Good evening, well, despite what anyone says and believe me I’ve tried everything, if you’re stuck in heavy rain for more than four hours, you are going to get wet. In that video I’m wearing a Merlin jacket which in heavy rain of around two hours was bone dry. I use Daytona boots and take at least 2 pairs of gloves with me when doing long distance plus wear cheap over gloves if the rain is super heavy.
The other thing I do is wear a super lightweight waterproof walking jacket under my bike jacket - it works well as both a wind blocker and line of last defence against water. You don’t have to spend a fortune - just get one of those super lightweight and packable jackets and they work a treat.
Either way, if you’re riding in heavy rain for 7 hours you will get wet. With the stuff above I can minimise it and probably stay dry for perhaps 3 to 4 hours. That’s on a bike with no fairing though…People with fairings will do much better!
Hope that helps and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Hello Phil, your review came up as recommended on You tube, probably because I've been soaking up reports on the V7 lll since biting the bullet, and now have a spoked wheeled special on order. As you say, what not to like. I have your outlook on life and bikes, so am reassured by your findings . When a certain age or older we realise it's far better and more fun riding on torque than absolute bhp. Thanks to you I won't be ordering just yet any fancy panniers or rear rack, tho have gone for the cylinder guards, affixed to the frame. Those heads look somewhat vulnerable. Apart from that all should be well, tho if my bike is being supplied with Pirellis perhaps I could do a deal on Bridgstones. Were the pirellis that bad? Many Thanks from an old Yam XS 650 twin fan for such a splendid video. Subscribed
Evening Matthew - thanks for your note. I think the interesting thing about the Guzzi is not only the ability to ride the torque but also that (slightly surprisingly) it likes to rev out also, which is the best of all worlds. It also sounds very nice under load - even on the stock exhausts. As for the Pirelli’s - they do feel very unpleasant. I don’t doubt they are actually perfectly grippy and safe but they give the front end a very floaty feeling and they whiteline horribly. Usually I stick with OE tyres on all my bikes until they wear our and then I put on something else on - but with the Pirelli’s I replaced them at only 2000 miles. The feel was such that I simply felt less than confident on bends - and that really compromises enjoyment. The BT-45’s though are spot-on - stable, grippy, great feel and they got me around downhill hairpins in the alps beautifully. If you can, I’d definitely get the Pirelli’s changed on delivery and/or very soon afterwards. Anyway, congrats on the new bike - it really is a totally satisfying, enjoyable and gorgeous bike to ride and own - you’ll love it! Thanks for stopping by and good luck for the big day...I.e. the roads are dry and the sun is shining. Enjoy! Cheers, Phil.
@@80eightReviews Super to hear back, Phil, and thanks for the detail on tyres. I did mention it by email to the dealership yesterday , but the reply this morn is disttinctly non commital on the tyre issue ( I guess the're the same as yours, Pirelli sport demons)so it may be best to leave all as is then act independently. One can understand them not being too enthusiastic to get involved in such complexities. Will let you know how all goes at the end of January. Will be glued to your reviews ! Cheers ,Matt
Morning Matt, by complete coincidence this video popped up on FortNine - which perhaps helps to explain the tyre situation th-cam.com/video/Tv97i_-V7hA/w-d-xo.html
As for being glued...good to hear however I’ve run out of bikes to review now!
Cheers,
Phil.
@@80eightReviews Morning Phil ,thanks so much for the Fortnine vid. What a good presentation, which does explain much. Motorcycle manufacturers are faced with the same pressures as everyone in business; how to make a margin to pay for the design, materials labour and other overheads , then make a profit ,which allows future development. If they can do a deal with the tyre supplier then fine, tho to compromise on quality and safety does seem to undermine what they are doing - especially Moto guzzi with their fine handling V7- in encouraging the buyer to opt for their nimble machine. Since it is the only point of contact with the road, why cut corners, I ask myself. I shall go back to Fortnine's explanation of the physics of torque and power( all transitted though those tyres....) and see if I can get my head round it on the tenth viewing..
Afternoon Matthew - yes, it's an interesting thesis - from what I understood from the F9 video, the quality aspect manifests itself in terms of reduced longevity, as opposed to say feel or grip etc. I'm guessing the Pirelli's on the V7 are 'behaving' as expected and that a good deal was done between the two companies and/or Moto Guzzi test riders only ever use smooth roads with no white lines or overbanding!
Really nice review. Am definitely considering the v7 850 Stone as my next bike - am getting on now and views are more important to me than speed. 80% of my 18,000 miles on my current bike (KTM 790 Duke) have been touring on the continent so this was a great review for me. Thanks.
Hey Steve, thanks for dropping by and great to know you enjoyed the video. The main benefit the 850 has now, is that it’s now got a decent turn of speed / acceleration - obviously not a match for your KTM but more than enough to hold your own with traffic and provide a bit of excitement. Even then, the old model was perfectly happy all day at 85mph so if touring is your use case, the 850 will be just fine. And you get shaft drive, well over 200 miles to tank and the sheer smile in your helmet loveliness of owning a Guzzi!
Let me know what you decide, hope all is well with you, cheers, Phil.
Thanks Phil. I need to get a test ride. May take a while but I'll let you know if I pull the trigger. Keep up the great work on the vids.
Hot news! Hello Phil, I've finally bought a V7 111 (new stone - red tank) after lengthy prevarication. I'm fitting heated grips (Oxford), MG touring screen (I know, it's not great at wind protection), Hepco 'Xplorer' luggage (need a bit of security for some of the places we go to), MG engine protectors (and maybe Acerbis hand protectors). Have you been able to try out your replacement tires? Best wishes, Peter.
Hey Peter - excellent and exciting news! Sounds like you’ve got somewhere interesting to go once those bits and pieces are fitted. Shot needed once all kitted out - would love to see it! As for the Avon’s, I’ve done around 600 miles on them now and can’t fault them. Neutral, well behaved and it maybe because they’re new, but they seem to help / work well with the suspension - they add a sense of subtle plushness. Of course that could easily be psychological brought on by copious amounts of sunshine - but great tyres and recommended. Well, enjoy Peter - nothing like a new bike with bits to fit. And when it’s a Guzzi with Sophia Loren on the pillion...Oh wait, I wasn’t supposed to mention that 😄 Cheers, Phil.
@@80eightReviews Cheers Phil - and Sophia.
Nicely done review. Do you know if an optional rev counter can be installed like the other models come fitted with?
Thanks - good to know you enjoyed the video! As for the rev counter...aside from buying the rev counter from the special - which I guess is possible if expensive, then perhaps the best bet is to go with the Bluetooth module and hooking it to your phone? Aside from that, tbh, you don’t really need one - the engine is very expressive and tells you when to change up via noise, thrust and feel. Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.
Hey :) Thx for the video, i very enjoyed it. A quick question: How do you rate it for a beginner rider? (not someone who never sat on a bike).
Good evening, glad you enjoyed the video. To be honest the V7 is pretty much the perfect beginners bike - totally easy to get on with, not intimidating, yet there is something about it which is involving and kinda sharpens your skills in a way that say a CB500 wouldn’t. I mean, I’ve been riding non stop for 30 years and the Guzzi, while super easy to ride, still needs to be ridden and you have to do old fashioned things such as read the road ahead, think about positioning etc. If a beginners bike is one that lets you develop your skills and doesn’t outgrow you, then the V7 is that bike. A CB500 on the other is a great bike but somewhat more disposable. Hope that helps & thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.
It can crush a custard cream......... it passes the test.
Hey Christian, agreed - it’s the primary test for any motorcycle. I think it would struggle with a jammy dodger though? Thanks for stopping by (again), cheers, Phil.
Great to hear your review, I'm thinking of getting a V7 having had a T3 back in the 80's.
Thanks Mark, I think you’ll find a V7 (perhaps the 850) version, a very positive reminder and echo of your T3, up to date but at the same time with a clear and obvious lineage.
Thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.
I have a Vespa 300 and a Piaggio MP3 500 I like things Italian. Last year I bought a Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor, it is a competent bike but rather soul less. This was before I'd seen the reviews of the V7 lll I think I should have bought the Moto Guzzi. Sadly there are no Guzzi sellers in the State of Oregon.
Evening Steve, I've never ridden the RE & I'm sure it's a lovely bike and very similar with respect to the V7 in terms of power & weight. But yeah, the Italian vibe wins always :-) With respect to dealers, well with 6000 mile service intervals and great reliability, perhaps it might be worth the trip :-) Thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.
@@80eightReviews the nearest dealer is 193 miles away. what a drag.
Ah! So by the time you rode it back home you’d have to turn right round and go back for it’s first service! Yes, that is a drag Steve!
My Anniversario is the perfect bike, IMHO.
And I couldn’t argue with that! Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.
Hey!!! You've got a Guzzi and a Dalek!!!! Why didn't you say so earlier .....I'm about to hop on my V9 Bobber and head off to work...absolutely love it!!!
Hope all is good with you!!!
Once again gorgeous cinematography!!!
Be good!
Hey Mitch, how are you doing? Good to hear the V9 is working out for you. As for the Dalek, well, I thought everyone had one actually 😄 I might bring the cyberman out next time...All good here thanks, just gearing up for winter with a pair of heated gloves - wish I had bought some years ago. Anyway thanks for stopping by (again) Mitch, cheers, Phil.
All good... winter not much of a worry over here I live in the mountains so it may snow but mostly sunny nice weather ... maybe 20 -30 days of wet weather... all year!!!
Just like the Britain.... 😉
BTW I’ve got a cyberman and a tardis of course!!!
You’ve got a Tardis? Slightly jealous now....Anyway based on this conversation, the next video (don’t hold your breath though) is going to feature my ‘special’ Dalek quite strongly - this one hasn’t been featured in any videos yet as it only comes out for special occasions. I’ll have to think of some spurious reason for including it though 😀 Have a good day, cheers, Phil.