A fair few errors in the video. No model gets air suspension, they all get the same coil spring and hydraulic cushion bump stops, where there's a difference is the hybrid gets adaptive dampers and a camera to read the road ahead to prepare the dampers for greater or lesser shocks ahead. No mention of Citroën's advanced comfort programme
Yes, also they both feel very similar I hear because the petrol version is quite a bit lighter and should be decent enough without the adaptive suspension.
Thanks for this. Sounds like it would actually suit most of my and a lot of people’s driving. I was put off at first when I saw 1.2 but with modern materials and engine management, these engines can deliver in ways you wouldn’t expect.
I've been driving mine for about 3 months now. First of all, as someone already mentionned in the comments; the 1.2 version also has HYDAULIC suspention (not air) although not adaptive. This car spoiled me, as I am now very aware of the lack of pillowy comfort as a passenger in a different car. And yes, I LOVE the fact that I have crossed 2 other C5X in all this time, while driving myself. (Belgium)
The problem with this is as you observed Nobby, it needs a diesel! A 1.2 in a car that size is going to struggle especially when loaded with people/things. Bottom line is you can't defy physics in so far as a small engine pushing a large car is going to struggle and/or drink the fuel because folk think that if they buy a bigger car with a small engine that it'll be easier on fuel when because of the physics of the thing it won't be the case.
It doesn't need a diesel, the 1.2 is more than good enough for standard family use. Yes, the 1.6 will feel nicer and probably use the same amount of fuel, but this engine is fine.
@@musguelha14 I'm sorry but for that size of a car you do. The 1.2 won't pull you out if bed and that's before it starts guzzling the fuel. You can't defy the laws of physics! A small engine in a big car will struggle no matter what especially fully laden compared to the equivalent diesel. Even if it had the 1.5 hdi with admittedly the same horsepower as the 1.2 but the difference is it has more torque to cope with the weight.
@@stevencampbell1150 I've driven the C5 crossover with the 1.2 and that was fine, and it's about the same weight. And that was even a manual, so 2 fewer gears and no torque converter to hide the low rpm lag. I bet it's just fine.
@@stevencampbell1150 People have become spoilt. It's got as much torque at low revs as a naturally aspirated V6 from the early 2000s (ie c5 3.0 v6). Yes, top end power is not as high but neither is it in a diesel. it's fine imo.
Are they just trying to shift a load of petrol engines they are worried they'll be stuck with? 1.2 petrol in a car like that is ridiculous, regardless of how good modern small petrol engines can be.
The main issue of ROI market is that the cars are 25-30% more expensive than in UK or continental Europe and the trims are usually stripped from features that you could get on other markets having the same trim.
so... it's lighter than previous gen 1.6 l 120hp Berlingo, it has 10 hp and 70 Nm of torque more (1/3 more!!) than it .... or previous gen 1.8 l C5 for that matter.... and it is under powered?!? we sure did get spoiled in last 10 years...
This is a great car spoiled by the engines. It really needed a big diesel, the 2.0 HDI biturbo or they could have asked Mazda for their new 3.3 straight 6. The 1.2 is fine in a c3 or cactus, but not a big car like this.
Hello, Is there much difference in sound level inside the cabin on the highway at constant speed between this model and the hybrid variant? Thank you so much!
I'd have one all day long if there was a diesel option. 600km on a single tank (according to the video) isn't bad by any means for a petrol engine but as a current C5 Aircross owner who comfortably gets around 900km from a full tank of diesel, I'd be losing 33% of my range just from changing over to the C5X. Has seriously made me think twice and stick with the Aircross for the time being (which is a fabulous car either way).
UK base Sense Plus 1.2 could be acquired through broker for £23k which is substantially less than the price mentioned in the video for ROI. I know as I got one. For that money you get a substantial amount of car, very spacious, attractive, very quiet and super smooth. Seats are comfortable but may be not as comfortable as advertised (but personal preference). 1.2. is capable - relaxed quiet motorway driving, enough for overtaking, not a speed demon and that does not suit it anyway . Again personal preference. Good looking car and unique, not seen another one on the road, so in the car park no missing my car!! My first Citroen and very impressed to date. Can see why it won some awards including Parkers best large family car.
I was seriously interested in one of these around 6-8 months ago - I'm in the UK. Of the Hybrid models, I did the sums and you never make back in fuel savings what you spend on purchasing it. You might more-or-less make it back on BIK tax if it's a "traditional" company car, but it's a narrow thing. It might be worth doing for the coolth, power and the green and the smoothness of the car on e-power, but financially it basically is a zero-sum game under optimal conditions, so long as you charge it every night and cover the 30-odd miles to realise the fuel savings. If you don't, it will cost you more to run than a straight petrol model. The 1.2 seems a bit of a small engine for what is quite a large car, so I was looking at the 1.6 version and Citroen discontinued it in the UK (although it IS still available in ROI). leaving me with just the risibly expensive Hybrid or the rather insipid 1.2. The 1.2 does have the advantage of reasonable fuel efficiency and at 130bhp there's enough power to keep up with traffic but it's never going to be a fireball (but if that's what you wanted, you probably wouldn't be looking at this car at all) - so I'm kinda lukewarm on it again. One thing the 1.2 potentially does have is the lovely mini-v6 sound of a triple, which the 1.6 doesn't (as it's four-cylinder) - so there's that and I do like a nice (muted!) soundtrack to my cars. And it is cheaper to buy, cheaper to fuel and to tax - so there's that, too. I decided to leave it and get a used one in 2023. Unfortunately virtually none are coming onto the used market and given than I think I've seen precisely one in the "wild", I don't think the model has sold very well. The used ones mainly seem to be dealer demo models and preorders for which they basically want full price (yeah....no... if that's the deal I'll take the one with the full warranty, thanks). I did try to test-drive one but the local Citroen dealers gave me a bunch of flannel about how it had "gone back to Citroen" - so I don't think they had one but just wanted me on site so they could try to sell me what they did have (no thanks, but thanks for letting me know the level of trust I can place in you...)
I have fully loaded the trunk of this car, combined with 3 passengers and a roof box on top. The fact that I don't remember overtaking is enough to assure you this isn't a problem.
Great review! I think Dacia will gain market share this year as they're one of the only reasonably priced car brands now. I think price is on high side for this Citreon. Other options out there for that price with better warranty and reputation. Cheers Mark. Happy New Year to you.
I have a 1.2 petrol and regularly drive to and from the U.K. to Italy. I only have to fill up once in Austria where petrol is a lot cheaper. Cruising at 120kph gives me a range of over 900 kms. I average 48.6mpg.
I'm replacing my 5 year old Škoda Superb (1.5TSI) and was very interested in this car but... not anymore. No 3rd zone AC, no front ventilated seats, no rear heated seats, no window rollers shades... (everything I have on my Škoda Superb now). I don't need a hybrid because it is much more expensive in my country and 1.2 is totally underpowered. Why don't they have 1.6. or 2.0 as an option, crazy? So in order for me to buy this car, I would have to downgrade considerably. I won't do that just although I really like exterior/interior. One more thing, Cx5 is produced in China. Delivery time is crazy long (in my country at least...). Citroen just failed this one...
The UK has been buying fuel in litres since before 1990. But still everyone bangs on about "em pee gee". I have no idea why we didn't convert to using miles-per-litre or even KM instead of miles. Like most of the world does. It would only take a few months for people to get used to it and make things easier when comparing the UK to other territories - which may explain why the government didn't do this.
Nice video quality but oh my God he is eating some words making it even more boring to watch with the same kind of intonation of phrases going on and on and on...
@@freestick19822000 true though. I’ve 24 years years media experience at an extremely high level and I’m using a seriously professional setup for these videos but you come on to tell me you’re bored. Watch something else, life is too short.
@@NobbyOnCars true that good quality video nobody. Life is tooo short talking with same intonation. Your boringness is at a level as if you sold your spirit.. I am already watching interesting car reviews if you let me :D
All these big Cars this, Peugeot 408, 508, 3008 with the 1. 2 puretech engine is a joke, massively underpowered,, who in their right mind would buy one of these big luxury cars with an engine that's suited to a ford fiesta, Peugeot 208, my mind boggles
I’ve got the 1.2 Sense Plus.Very happy with it & good economy to.Certainly stands out on the road.
A fair few errors in the video. No model gets air suspension, they all get the same coil spring and hydraulic cushion bump stops, where there's a difference is the hybrid gets adaptive dampers and a camera to read the road ahead to prepare the dampers for greater or lesser shocks ahead. No mention of Citroën's advanced comfort programme
Yes, also they both feel very similar I hear because the petrol version is quite a bit lighter and should be decent enough without the adaptive suspension.
Thanks for this. Sounds like it would actually suit most of my and a lot of people’s driving. I was put off at first when I saw 1.2 but with modern materials and engine management, these engines can deliver in ways you wouldn’t expect.
I've been driving mine for about 3 months now.
First of all, as someone already mentionned in the comments; the 1.2 version also has HYDAULIC suspention (not air) although not adaptive.
This car spoiled me, as I am now very aware of the lack of pillowy comfort as a passenger in a different car.
And yes, I LOVE the fact that I have crossed 2 other C5X in all this time, while driving myself. (Belgium)
hi, can you share fuel consumption in different conditions/speed? Ty!
The problem with this is as you observed Nobby, it needs a diesel! A 1.2 in a car that size is going to struggle especially when loaded with people/things. Bottom line is you can't defy physics in so far as a small engine pushing a large car is going to struggle and/or drink the fuel because folk think that if they buy a bigger car with a small engine that it'll be easier on fuel when because of the physics of the thing it won't be the case.
Spot on. Just look at the last gen X Trail traipsing around with a Qashqai engine.
It doesn't need a diesel, the 1.2 is more than good enough for standard family use.
Yes, the 1.6 will feel nicer and probably use the same amount of fuel, but this engine is fine.
@@musguelha14 I'm sorry but for that size of a car you do. The 1.2 won't pull you out if bed and that's before it starts guzzling the fuel. You can't defy the laws of physics! A small engine in a big car will struggle no matter what especially fully laden compared to the equivalent diesel. Even if it had the 1.5 hdi with admittedly the same horsepower as the 1.2 but the difference is it has more torque to cope with the weight.
@@stevencampbell1150 I've driven the C5 crossover with the 1.2 and that was fine, and it's about the same weight. And that was even a manual, so 2 fewer gears and no torque converter to hide the low rpm lag. I bet it's just fine.
@@stevencampbell1150 People have become spoilt. It's got as much torque at low revs as a naturally aspirated V6 from the early 2000s (ie c5 3.0 v6). Yes, top end power is not as high but neither is it in a diesel. it's fine imo.
Superb review Nobby. What a superb
Car the C5X is. Citroën is back on track with C4 and C5X.
I think the biggest question outside the 1.2L is where would the residuals be in 3yrs time. Will it depreciate like a stone in water?
The 1.2 petrol version in basic-trim is €15.000 more expensive than the hybrid version with highest trim.
Think you mean cheaper
@@NobbyOnCars Nope not here in Denmark. Taxes my friend. The hybrid is much cheaper ;)
Are they just trying to shift a load of petrol engines they are worried they'll be stuck with? 1.2 petrol in a car like that is ridiculous, regardless of how good modern small petrol engines can be.
That 1.2 will be great in the new C4. Essentially the same as the one in my Peugeot 2008 and that is plenty quick and nippy. French nailing it.
Yes, it works perfect in the C4 in my opinion after one year driving with her
The main issue of ROI market is that the cars are 25-30% more expensive than in UK or continental Europe and the trims are usually stripped from features that you could get on other markets having the same trim.
Price yes, trim not really anymore!
The 1.2 engine is perfectly suitable for long journeys. You can’t even hear the engine. I get 48.6 mpg on a long run.
In nordic countries (Bought it in Estonia), cheapest option Feel Pack gets front heated seats and heated windshield, but no steering wheel heating.
I think you can get a 1.6 non hybrid petrol?
so... it's lighter than previous gen 1.6 l 120hp Berlingo, it has 10 hp and 70 Nm of torque more (1/3 more!!) than it .... or previous gen 1.8 l C5 for that matter.... and it is under powered?!? we sure did get spoiled in last 10 years...
Is it the same 1.2 engine that has a bad reputation for timing belt issues?
yes, the infamous 1.2 puretech
This is a great car spoiled by the engines. It really needed a big diesel, the 2.0 HDI biturbo or they could have asked Mazda for their new 3.3 straight 6. The 1.2 is fine in a c3 or cactus, but not a big car like this.
have you tested it? You might be surprised how it happened to me..
Hello, Is there much difference in sound level inside the cabin on the highway at constant speed between this model and the hybrid variant? Thank you so much!
No it would be identical
@@NobbyOnCars thanks!!
This guy is the chap who saw you throwing up, but still offered you a ride home.
Is this the 3 Cylinder engine the Cam belt in oil?
Great review and quite a nice looking car. Pity there’s no diesel though.
I'd have one all day long if there was a diesel option. 600km on a single tank (according to the video) isn't bad by any means for a petrol engine but as a current C5 Aircross owner who comfortably gets around 900km from a full tank of diesel, I'd be losing 33% of my range just from changing over to the C5X. Has seriously made me think twice and stick with the Aircross for the time being (which is a fabulous car either way).
UK base Sense Plus 1.2 could be acquired through broker for £23k which is substantially less than the price mentioned in the video for ROI. I know as I got one. For that money you get a substantial amount of car, very spacious, attractive, very quiet and super smooth. Seats are comfortable but may be not as comfortable as advertised (but personal preference). 1.2. is capable - relaxed quiet motorway driving, enough for overtaking, not a speed demon and that does not suit it anyway . Again personal preference. Good looking car and unique, not seen another one on the road, so in the car park no missing my car!! My first Citroen and very impressed to date. Can see why it won some awards including Parkers best large family car.
Totally agree, have had mine for three and a half months, very happy indeed. Got it for a steal also.
I was seriously interested in one of these around 6-8 months ago - I'm in the UK.
Of the Hybrid models, I did the sums and you never make back in fuel savings what you spend on purchasing it. You might more-or-less make it back on BIK tax if it's a "traditional" company car, but it's a narrow thing. It might be worth doing for the coolth, power and the green and the smoothness of the car on e-power, but financially it basically is a zero-sum game under optimal conditions, so long as you charge it every night and cover the 30-odd miles to realise the fuel savings. If you don't, it will cost you more to run than a straight petrol model.
The 1.2 seems a bit of a small engine for what is quite a large car, so I was looking at the 1.6 version and Citroen discontinued it in the UK (although it IS still available in ROI). leaving me with just the risibly expensive Hybrid or the rather insipid 1.2. The 1.2 does have the advantage of reasonable fuel efficiency and at 130bhp there's enough power to keep up with traffic but it's never going to be a fireball (but if that's what you wanted, you probably wouldn't be looking at this car at all) - so I'm kinda lukewarm on it again. One thing the 1.2 potentially does have is the lovely mini-v6 sound of a triple, which the 1.6 doesn't (as it's four-cylinder) - so there's that and I do like a nice (muted!) soundtrack to my cars. And it is cheaper to buy, cheaper to fuel and to tax - so there's that, too.
I decided to leave it and get a used one in 2023. Unfortunately virtually none are coming onto the used market and given than I think I've seen precisely one in the "wild", I don't think the model has sold very well. The used ones mainly seem to be dealer demo models and preorders for which they basically want full price (yeah....no... if that's the deal I'll take the one with the full warranty, thanks).
I did try to test-drive one but the local Citroen dealers gave me a bunch of flannel about how it had "gone back to Citroen" - so I don't think they had one but just wanted me on site so they could try to sell me what they did have (no thanks, but thanks for letting me know the level of trust I can place in you...)
I looked it up, 6 litres/100km is 47.1 mpg.
Sometimes I remember to convert for the UK sometimes I forget
6l /100 km is 47mpg. Simple conversion is 282.5. Divide mpg into this number to get l/100 km or vice versa
@@brendanronayne1 You're right, I used US gallons instead of imperial, I'll edit the comment, thanks.
@@NobbyOnCarsYou forgot because you do not want viewers.
@@andersnielsen6044 you’re so right 🙄
A fully loaded car with that engine will make overtaking an interesting experience. Nice review as usual 👍
Thanks! 👍
I have fully loaded the trunk of this car, combined with 3 passengers and a roof box on top. The fact that I don't remember overtaking is enough to assure you this isn't a problem.
No problem overtaking
Great review! I think Dacia will gain market share this year as they're one of the only reasonably priced car brands now. I think price is on high side for this Citreon. Other options out there for that price with better warranty and reputation. Cheers Mark. Happy New Year to you.
It's in that space price wise alright but it's a fairly big car for the price too.
It’s only £34k, that’s a very reasonable price for a car this size
@@oliverstemp9132 you'll think you're saving money til you have to fuel it.
Dacia is a budget brand, Citroën isn't
@@oliverstemp9132You can buy one for about £27,000 now 😊
It would be great to see more car itself.
I don’t understand why they didn’t use the 150bhp version of this engine instead, this is their flagship car!
Its take more them my 2.0 d skoda😮 and my range is over 1k km per tank. What is a point to buy this ? 😅
I have a 1.2 petrol and regularly drive to and from the U.K. to Italy. I only have to fill up once in Austria where petrol is a lot cheaper. Cruising at 120kph gives me a range of over 900 kms. I average 48.6mpg.
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1.2 engine :LD 10.5 sec to 100 , what Citroen think :DXXX my old skoda octavia do arround 8.4 sec @ 2.0 diesel :D
Stunning. But 130 hp for €48k..... come on, thats a rip off. No heated seats.... now i know its a pisstake
Heated seats is for people who loves getting prostata cancer only.
I love the look of it ,
A car that big needs a 2ltr minimum IMO.
Maybe not 2.0 but more than 1.2
I'm replacing my 5 year old Škoda Superb (1.5TSI) and was very interested in this car but... not anymore. No 3rd zone AC, no front ventilated seats, no rear heated seats, no window rollers shades... (everything I have on my Škoda Superb now). I don't need a hybrid because it is much more expensive in my country and 1.2 is totally underpowered. Why don't they have 1.6. or 2.0 as an option, crazy? So in order for me to buy this car, I would have to downgrade considerably. I won't do that just although I really like exterior/interior. One more thing, Cx5 is produced in China. Delivery time is crazy long (in my country at least...). Citroen just failed this one...
New Superb is what you want anyway… it’s class
Probably the best Citroen in years, pity its get up and go got up and went.
You can get a 1.6 turbo. That’s probably the best choice.
@@oliverstemp9132it's not a great engine and pretty thirsty
@@alexanderstefanov6474 get the PHEV then
1;58 ! 6 litres per 100 klmts... crap! just talk english! MPG! MILES PER GALLON! like 99% of us understand!....man!
This video isn’t made for the English. I’m in Ireland, part of Europe. Soz.
Gobshite, fuck off to CarWow for language you understand - muppet!
Dude not everyone lives in the states. I don’t understand mpg at all
@@NobbyOnCars please give both .. if can didnt realise soz...
The UK has been buying fuel in litres since before 1990. But still everyone bangs on about "em pee gee". I have no idea why we didn't convert to using miles-per-litre or even KM instead of miles. Like most of the world does. It would only take a few months for people to get used to it and make things easier when comparing the UK to other territories - which may explain why the government didn't do this.
It has everything except the engine...
Can't help but think a diesel would work well in it!
Nice video quality but oh my God he is eating some words making it even more boring to watch with the same kind of intonation of phrases going on and on and on...
Don’t watch it so 👋🏻
@@NobbyOnCars 😅😅
@@freestick19822000 true though. I’ve 24 years years media experience at an extremely high level and I’m using a seriously professional setup for these videos but you come on to tell me you’re bored. Watch something else, life is too short.
@@NobbyOnCars true that good quality video nobody. Life is tooo short talking with same intonation. Your boringness is at a level as if you sold your spirit.. I am already watching interesting car reviews if you let me :D
All these big Cars this, Peugeot 408, 508, 3008 with the 1. 2 puretech engine is a joke, massively underpowered,, who in their right mind would buy one of these big luxury cars with an engine that's suited to a ford fiesta, Peugeot 208, my mind boggles
Blame the stupid regulations