An old man complaining about new tech. Talk about an old dog and new tricks. There was a lot of praising of the Rav 4 for its old 1920's look and a disdain for the new modern minimalistic interior of the H6. A clear nitpicking when it came to the Haval while ignoring its great points. The bias is so thick you can cut it with a knife.
Couldn’t agree more. They obviously wanted the RAV4 to win from the outset. Havel has soooo many more features, more modern tech, more modern design, is cheaper, more interior space, more storage cubbies, longer warranty but still loses??? He admits he struggles with tech… so get some help from someone - other reviews said you can swipe to shortcut menu, change icon sizes, location etc. if the only criteria to win was fuel economy and dealer network get a Yaris. Toyota is the automotive equivalent of McDonalds… common and has a large customer base. Doesn’t mean it’s the best option for everyone though.
@Clem I agree with you so much that, the old news Toyota reliability has come dead. Haval drive and comfort is not mentioned but pillar noise is, road noise of Toyota and slow transmission not mentioned or how plastic it is inside.
Holy f***, the Toyota just looks like it got stuck in the last century! I am a Toyota fan, but the Haval just looks refreshingly modern. And the tech is snapping at the heels of Mercedes.
In 10 years, Japanese motor industry would be dead hard. In us and china, electric cars would add surely take dominance and fuel engine hybrid cars would be phased out completely.
Good luck with the Toyota Rav 4 if you want to wait up to 12 months for delivery, the Haval H6 Hybrid is available for delivery within weeks. I have owned a H6 petrol for 2 years now, with zero issues whatsoever.
I cannot believe he uses Sat nav as a selling point, and can also tolerate Toyota's interior.. I don't even have a word to describe that old crap.. Australians are so out of date
@@diegonaranjo2425 Haha, look it is better for handling and resale value. However, the H6 has better technology and the price is a lot better, this video said $2k which is completely inaccurate (top range H6 vs bottom range RAV4), the RAV4 Cruiser vs Haval H6 Ultra is currently a $12k difference!!! You have to compare apples to apples, eg. moon roof, power boot, 360 camera etc. The main reason I'm going to buy a Haval H6 soon is simply because I can't wait 20 months for a new RAV4 hybrid. It's like a mythical vehicle, a fairy tale that you can't buy.
The Haval is a much more bang for buck than the Toyota. Haval has more safety features and the information system is very modern the Toyota one looks 20 years old and small… both good cars Haval has more features etc to me the Haval wins
as much as i love the advance tech for modern features in car. Yes toyota's infotech are outdated and slow. But functionalities and convenient buttons where is needed are way more better than every control in the infotech one itself. And haval's infotech isnt that smooths and fast enough though. Still abit laggy and is slow react. No need satellite navigation where is costing more than a phone or tablet itself, since everyone using android auto or apple car play OS app. But no Digital radio is a downside. And i'm sure RAV4 had better audio sound quality than Haval if im not wrong? Haval is certainly a bang for buck but the overall is still not appealing to me. Fuel consumption, suspensions, steering comfort, reliabilities and services, quality of anti rust material body, shifting gear stick, the look of body and conventional buttons RAV4 better. Not to mention you feel more confident on Toyota for longevity than new arrival Haval hybrid. Yes haval price tag is sound great and affordable... but it is what you get for the price tag. So i dont see much different of cost value if base on qualities and comfort comparison between them both in and out.
The haval the perfect beautiful modern technological machine The machine that can fly and heat your butt while you drive 😍, beautiful so that in less than 2 years you will already have engine problems while a Toyota in 15 years you will just be worrying for engine problems
I feel like these videos need to be updated with something like, "in the last 5 year, Haval went down a tiny bit in price. Rav4 went up $11,000 in price"
I have the Haval H6 Ultra HEV in Thailand. After driving 500Kl in both city and highway I am getting 5.9 L/100km. Not sure how I get down to 5.2. I drive in economy mode with cruise control. The car drives so nice. The a/c seats keep you cool. Overall its a great car for the $$
All of you here ... Go to @17:44 in the link th-cam.com/video/7yUWbLDg_C0/w-d-xo.html there you get the real driving result from Car Guide ... not one under 8 L/100 km !!! (RAV4. H6 Hybrid, Forester Hybrid and a CX5 std. diesel) .... and I heard/saw the same about all three hybrids from other sides ..... That makes me reconsider my idea of selling the XC90 and Jazz for a H6 PHEV ... I just did 6.02 L/100 km on pure long haul, 7.1 L/100 km in average on a 1288 km drive with about 100 - 120 km city driving with a 2.4 metric ton empty. 2.7 ton ready to go .. and that is accord. to board computer (max/min/avr) and the average after my driving log book too ... (wife, me, 68 L diesel and baggage/utility bag for 4 days .. I'm good for 6'1" and close to 0.1 Metric Ton .. na na no comments do you know how expensive that near 0.1 T has been??? ... alone and on the way back curry puff's for half the village at home, several bottles of Wine from Uncle Heng & Son at ParkChong Nakhon Ratchasima .. Dessert wines. Normal wines, Full body wines, all in red and white ..and fruit wines as a little fun on the side ... Seriously Worth Going For !!! and half the fish shop 'at the bottle' on A1) in my Volvo XC90 D5 AWD Executive, 2.5 L common rail diesel with 210 BHP, 6 speed Aisin A/T ... kept on cruise control as much as possible just under 2.000 RPM's (at about 108 - 110 km/h) ... So a Havel just fell on the wanted list .... and Ross ... he he I can tilt my seats c") ....
Haval website shows a combined torque output of 530 NMS....So yes, that is insane! Also, the Haval has ventilated front seats against heating only for the Rav...Haval H6 is the true winner here..
@@lucky.penguin.slots14 the Rav 4 was approximately $10,000 AUD more but it is also AWD, cheaper model Ravs are the same price as Havel with less equipment. l believe our Rav is worth the extra price as Toyotas hold their value better than any other brand they are also very reliable and you can expect up to 500,000km without major issues. They also have by far the biggest network of dealers in Australia. The cost of servicing id $230 per year for the first 5 years and the battery warranty is 10 years as long as it goes to Toyota every year. I own a Toyota Land Cruiser prado 2009 and a Lexus 2002 and both have been trouble free I know plenty of people getting huge distances from Toyotas. . I know someone who has a business and they own 5 LDV vans, made in China, he has had no end of trouble with them and would never buy another as they have been a disaster with continual break downs that are causing lots of trouble in his courier business..My nephew is a mechanic, a couple of customers own Great Wall Ute's, GWM make Havel. He hates working on the GW Ute's and says they are only designed to last 60,000 km. I know Havel have a 7 year warranty here but there must be suspicion as to how much trouble you will have eventually. Havel have 530 newton metres of torque feeding front wheel drive. I can only imagine how much the traction control would have to work on wet and slippery roads. The Havel looks to be great value for money and would be a good short term purchase however expect ordinary resale value and potential problems if you keep it for many years.
Very happy with the suspension of my Haval H6 petrol. No issue with that. No problem with infotainment panel while driving. Take a bit of adjustment to get used to it. Haval H6 is great value for money with safety features only available in premium cars. Decided on Haval H6 after checking out Rav 4, CX5, Outlander, VW.
@@carlosbaldwin6335I drove it today and it went over bumps much better than my cc Passat which is one of the smoothest cars you can drive. I think you're RAV4 is trash
You can't see the gear selector in bright sunlight and don't know what gear you're in....huh😲 The gear selected is shown on the digital dash....c'mon mate 😉
@@EXcellentstuFF yes, if the car supports CarPlay or Android Auto, who cares about the built-in nav or digital radio? The old-fashioned infotainment in RAV4 is terribly designed.
I was disappointed that the Haval didn't have DAB but then I realised that phone coverage is better than DAB coverage and virtually every station is available in an app. Sure enough, it works well and I don't miss DAB.
There is no doubt that Toyota is the king of the past, and the reliability and preservation rate are very good. But Toyota was stuck in a patent it had invincible about 15 years ago, a 2.5-liter naturally aspirated engine, an E-CVT transmission, and a nickel-metal hydride battery pack. Although these reliability are very good, but with the update of electronic control technology, IGBT, and motor technology, it is already the technology of the previous era. Looking at the "classic" interior, it is a masterpiece of pragmatism. The monitors erected like tombstones seem to put a 90s Toshiba TV in the car. Old-fashioned, not at all the high spirits of Toyota 20 years ago.
Boys, I'm sorry but you have missed the mark on some of the items You can get DAB on your phone and its not a missed sales point. Haval has Auto-Parking Assist and R4 doesn't. No one uses shitty Sat Nav anymore The H6 Destroys a lot of mid-size SUVs in Hybrid/Fuel mode and you even mentioned in the written review the Haval was @ low 6s Its not a 12-15month wait like the Rav4 Haval Price is cheaper, even with custom paint. Havals internals destroy the Rav4. Rav4 looks old and dated for that amount of $. Haval looks like a spaceship inside. And i'm almost certain that they will provide software updates for the infotainment system to re-organise it and provide a more intuitive design. The only complaint im hearing is about the seat heating location in the menu You mention the suspension - this is hardly going to be a issue unless you're driving country roads all day every day. And eventually a local provider will have a suspension kit to tune if you really need.
@@Reihana_ I have no plans to sell it, and will drive it until it die. If it gives me 10 years ill be happy and ill have saved enough anyway to buy a new car by then
I’m still waiting for my RAV4 Hybrid Cruiser but in a couple of years I may trade for a Haval. You have to hand it to Haval and China, they are really coming along in leaps and bounds and feel in a couple of years may surpass all the opposition. Well done 👏🏽
It’s very clear that Toyota’s design department is still living in the 1990s. Obviously Toyota believes us the Ozzies will support them unconditionally forever. Time to improve Toyota!
Great comparo! I'm from México; Infortunately, the waiting list for the RAV4 is currently 10 months. I test drove the Haval Hybrid and loced it. I will pick mine ine the next 3-5 days, since it is availability is great Great and concise review, Thanks guys
Toyota RAV4 would have been a good car if you could find one. I went to every Toyota dealers in Sydney today and they all said wait time of 1 to 2 years. And if you want to get a near new one right now, it is from 58,990 you have to pay almost 10,000 dollars over the manufacturer price. So the actual price difference is closer to 13,000 dollars. With that price difference, I wouldn't mind 1 extra litre/100km of fuel consumption. Plus the interior of Haval is much better looking than RAV4.
What I would like to know is what drive mode the Haval was set on Eco, normal or sport, when working out the fuel consumption? Also why wouldnt you compare the safety features of both cars not just the haval?
Because this review was paid for by Toyota. They don't compare anything the Haval wins on, a lot more space=unimportant, safety features and extra features are never compared. Negatives of the Toyota were not even mentioned or straight up turned into positives like that 90s interior lol.
Hey did anyone miss the Lane center assist in H6? or is it there in RAV4 also. If I am not mistaken RAV 4 only has lane keep assist and not lane center assist
I would argue that you aren't doing a fair comparison. To say extra space is just nice to have but not needed. Then you can't compare them in that category. Economy... you can't test that in 1 day on the Haval. And also you are comparing the top level Haval to the Base Level Ran 4. The Haval spec wise is better to price against the Edge. So the price difference is not a few grand but $60,650 for the Rav4 vs $45,990.00 is a different of $14,660. That's not a few thousand. And finally... you never mentioned the fact you can't get a Rav4 at the moment. Where as The Haval Hybrid is in stock.
18 months wait list. I was reading a comment on reddit of a guy who had ordered himself one and was told to wait 18 months (why would you even, anyway..), he waited it out and rang the dealer and they told him it could take another 18 months. Imagine a problem so large that this reviewer didn't even mention it. Just happened to 'forget' that little one did ya.
@@N1rOx I had a friend with a similar experience. Told to wait 24 months, so he got the haval on a 12 month lease to cover the gap. After the first 12 months when the lease company asked him if he wanted to extend he just cancelled the Rav4 order and leased the Haval since it was just as good as far as he was concerned.
Think where people don't touch on with Haval is that full EV mode can kick in anywhere from 0-110km per hour. Never seen a Rav kick in full EV mode at anywhere past 60km per hour.
Is it just me or anyone else worried that Tom is looking towards camera all the time while driving, he is hardly looking at the roads 😂 Good comparison though 👍
Convex mirrors are crap, also the power output on the naval is heaps more… Toyota like Mazda are overrated give it time and the naval will be as good as the Toyota remember hyuanda
Rav4 Hybrid - king of the segment is now a contender. That says a lot about H6 HEV. Subaru & MG HEV were no where close in comparison. The old man sounded biased from the beginning and the last segment of "I play dumb, u act smart and you win" was just outrageous and so superficial. Rav4 Hybrid with comparable features n specs is priced well above H6 price of $45k, and not to mention 10-18 months wait. Carexpert and other reviews say it averaged circa 5.7L/100km. DAB, satnav is things from the past. We have phone (carplay & AA) for that. Yes I do believe they need to get suspension tuned for Aussie road. H6 inside is absolutely modern and looks way cooler than Rav4. Ps: I own 2017 Rav4 n had own H6 briefly in 2020 (sold it coz of turbo lag and bodyroll).
not aimed at anything other than cost saving and efficiency. the brand name will carry it. toyota could shit in australians cereal and they'd still pay 100k for it.
Toyota just can’t get its design right. It just felt so old and cheap, even Lexus NX which is pretty much a fancy RAV4 , outside looks like Darth Vader’s helmet and inside look way too busy….
As always your videos are fab. Appreciate your work. But I have confusion if you want to choose between Rav4 HV GXL AWD Auto CVT which is now $50453 and Haval H6 Ultra hybrid which is $46103 then which one would you go for. I am getting both the cars in next week for the above mentioned price, so availability is not the issue for me. I am really confused and unable to make the decision. After sale market of haval is not so good as compared to Rav4. And now they have raised the price of rav4 so I am not sure is it worth to buy Rav4 or haval at this time now. Is this something you can please guide on. By any chance if you can please reply little early it would be really appreciated.
@@svdfxd HAVAL hybrid without any doubt. Kindly note I am NOT talking about petrol model (it has very bad fuel economy) It is haval ultra hybrid model which you should go for without any doubt. I managed to book it for 44400 aud with few accessories. Fuel economy for haval h6 hybrid is close to 6.5 l / 100 km luxurious interior and 7 year warranty. Drawback of haval hybrid is - no satelitte navigation, only 2wd available.
Great video! I have feedback though on the not seeing whether you are in drive or reverse comment, so...when the car goes forward then you are in drive. Jokes, very good video. I don't think South Africa is getting that Haval H6. It looks so good and I would have one.
Lmao this "review" is obviously paid for by Toyota, they weren't even trying to hide the bias. Haval H6 is much better in every way, shows you how overpriced the other brands are. China makes the best hybrids and EVs by far.
the space in haval make t a sweet family car. Toyota sets the meaning of quality. but if haval can catch up in next 10 years, then it may help Toyota to drop price. Toyota-tax is ridiculous expensive. I remember back in 2009 hilux is around 50k, now you pay 20k more just for the brand.
I JUST LOVE MY H6 HYBRID GREAT LOOKS ESPECIALLY THE AUTOMATIC PARKING & THE HEADS UP DISPLAY THE DEALER TURNED OFF/DOWN THE ANNOYING TECH SO NOT A PROBLEM DROVE THE MG HS BUT THE H6 WON OUT IN EVERY WAY
I am lucky I want to start looking to upgrade about Christmas 2023 to have by2024 so I love the Mazda CX-5 or the Hybrid RAV4 fuel cost leading me to RAV4 but I am going to have a good look at HAVAL hybrid! So we will see what 2023 has to offer in the next eleven months.
@@Mububban23 havent driven one have you... the petrol version breaks traction at the drop of a hat, more power & torque on the hybrid will make it much worse, especially in the wet. the traction control doesnt catch the wheel spin at all. it is fun mind you 😄
@@wd9807 sounds a bit shit then. Apart from Falcons, Commodores and my mate's S2000, every other car I've driven has been FWD and it's made zero real world difference to daily driving on bitumen roads. I did have an old Volvo that lit up its front in the wet, roundabouts were....interesting too. But the suspension was shot by that stage.
Won't choose any of them, the two main adventures of a hybrid are less fuel consumption and more power. I can just get an electric car instead, BYD Atto 3 or wait for the Tesla Model Y, zero fuel cost + electric motor is technically more advanced.
I am so hoping Haval will get rid of the lights on the bum and square it up a bit to match the front. The rounded look and basic lights give me Mitsubishi vibes which I hate!
The review is not accurate as the price to driveway is more than $10k more for the Toyota, they quoted driveway price on Haval and didn't mention driveway price on Toyota which is minimum $55 k
I chose the Haval H6 Hybrid premium because of one thing that most manufactures seem to forget about and thats tall drivers. I'm 6'5" and my head hits the roof in the Rav. Tonne of head space in the H6 and this will be my first car with a sun roof. All other cars lower there headsapce to accomodate for the sunroof. Not in the Haval! Plus, the Toyota interiors are still looking like there from the 90's.
Honestly who gives a crap about DAB or Satellite Radio? Everyone has a phone and they all run Android Auto and Apple Carplay. I rather a free and detailed Google Maps service and my own Spotify/Apple Music playlist than over the air radio advertisements
Close your eye's and turn the gear selector to the left and it's in reverse turn it to the right and it goes forward. When in reverse the rear view camera is activated which should tell you something 😂
Because you don't/won't take time to learn the media, does not mean its bad. I suspect you have an Apple phone? 🤔 We also understand that long term loan cars is where you can put something nice on the drive, not that this would affect your review. By the way, the gear you are in is on the dash D or R and even P. Our Discovery Sport gear dial has the same issue with reflections. As for Navigation, Waze, Google maps etc have up to date information, plus search for any service. OSM maps work without service on Android Auto, and yo can save Google maps for out of service areas. DAB is ok for major cities, nearest DAB to Cairns is Brisbane. DAB is out dated with LiSTNR and others, where there is no service, Bluetooth android auto/carplay.
"..you CANT add these up.." EXACTLY what I want a car reviewer to say. the torque figure can't be added to 500nm. That's to a degree misleading advertisement from HAVAL. 0-100km remains at 8sec or so. THAT IS NOT a 500nm car. also for a hybrid the consumption isnt outstanding. TO be fair, China roads are pretty good so their A and B roads are standard. Very few bad B roads. So their tuning is expected for COMFORT. so expect US style ride comfort and compromise for handling. Sunroof and space goes to HAVAL. Satellite and Digital radio does nothing for me.
Ok. As a previous Prius owner, with the Prius my average fuel economy was 4.9 litres to 100 km. My Rav 4 with the 2.4 litre petrol averaged about 9 litres in real life. So you want to actually sell me, that a Rav 4 hybrid that weights much more than a Prius only returns 5.2 litres on the road? I'm sorry, but I'm just not buying it, no car ever returns the fuel figures stated on paper.
Rav hybrid claims 4.7 litres 100 klm FWD / AWD 4.8 litres 100 klm I have the hybrid FWD and have just over 10,000 klm on mine and the best I get is 5.8 litres to 100 klm
GWM is still a privately owned company by far though being tied to the political regime which I oppose. But it is fair to say that being a private company, not owned by Chinese government, it may still at least have some decency to sell reliable products elsewhere. Although troubled with reliability in comparison with Toyota, it still has plenty of room to grow. I guess people should weigh between the political concerns and the facts of the car performance in line with their individual needs. After all, we need to respect individual choices rather than imposing our own views onto others.
Maybe haval is more powerful than rav4? It’s like you compare fuel consumption between Mercedes with Toyota. You know Toyota will win but it’s not the point. The same as “takes time to get used to the new design and no button thing”.
So basically whichever things are better in the h6 those are not important stuff, come on ... be fair in your review. There is a clear difference in seating room especially in the rear seat. Haval suspension is way better, acceleration is smoother, infotainment is way way better. Overall driving experience is better. Period.
The Haval shows the gear on the screen right in front of your face - you don't need to look down at the gear indicator. This guy's a bit of a dinosaur.
Havel should have offered the hybrid in the entry grade spec like the Toyota R4 attracts a broader audience eg R4 hybrid in entry spec used by several gov Dept , corporate fleet car rental,taxi, uber , Telstra and the list goes on and remember these organisations don't buy one they buy 10 to 20 in one go
He really hadn't done his full homework on the H6 hybrid in regards to combined power / torque. The 2 speed shift integrates both petrol & electric for tremendous power.. Sat Nav, come on bring yourself up todate ie Android auto IPhone connect..
Most car reviewers in Australia are unable to come to term, how much China has advanced in car technology. Most have ancap of 5 in safety. Still have the old mentality of Chinese product like there did with early Japanese car. Also the reviews have high expectation of the drive train There are not exactly build for racing. Most owners are city dwellers with speed limit of 50km and lucky to reach maximum of 100km on daily drive. Chinese cars are alot more competitive in all aspects. Average family would find it prohibitive to buy cars above $45000 especially with the rise in house mortgage, electricity gas, petrol etc.
Very disappointed with the bias to Toyota. Haval brings modern instrumentation, an exceptional drive train at at an exceptional price. How can you compare no on-board sat nav in the Havel when smart phone connectivity does all of that. Toyota has a great proven product mechanically, but has been well left behind with technology.....
Rav4 hybrid cost 2.7 million in the philippines but H6 hybrid cost only 1.8 million pesos 240horsepower very powerful than rav 4 only 176 horsepower thats why i bought the H6 sorry toyota
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An old man complaining about new tech. Talk about an old dog and new tricks. There was a lot of praising of the Rav 4 for its old 1920's look and a disdain for the new modern minimalistic interior of the H6. A clear nitpicking when it came to the Haval while ignoring its great points. The bias is so thick you can cut it with a knife.
yep
New tech. Is only for idiots that can't drive..
Couldn’t agree more. They obviously wanted the RAV4 to win from the outset. Havel has soooo many more features, more modern tech, more modern design, is cheaper, more interior space, more storage cubbies, longer warranty but still loses??? He admits he struggles with tech… so get some help from someone - other reviews said you can swipe to shortcut menu, change icon sizes, location etc. if the only criteria to win was fuel economy and dealer network get a Yaris.
Toyota is the automotive equivalent of McDonalds… common and has a large customer base. Doesn’t mean it’s the best option for everyone though.
Drive is not a racist anti Chinese publication... they're just "racially biased"
@Clem I agree with you so much that, the old news Toyota reliability has come dead. Haval drive and comfort is not mentioned but pillar noise is, road noise of Toyota and slow transmission not mentioned or how plastic it is inside.
Holy f***, the Toyota just looks like it got stuck in the last century! I am a Toyota fan, but the Haval just looks refreshingly modern. And the tech is snapping at the heels of Mercedes.
Go drive a Car from last century, you're living on another planet.
In 10 years, Japanese motor industry would be dead hard. In us and china, electric cars would add surely take dominance and fuel engine hybrid cars would be phased out completely.
Bullshit! Absolutely fake news. Japanese auto industry strongly against electric cars because they didn't even start it
ur stereotype bullshits thouhts will be buried with ur Japanese Toyota in ten yrs hahaha@@jasonbrown1263
yes, after a test drive with HAVAL, the RAV4 feels like buying a classic car.
Good luck with the Toyota Rav 4 if you want to wait up to 12 months for delivery, the Haval H6 Hybrid is available for delivery within weeks.
I have owned a H6 petrol for 2 years now, with zero issues whatsoever.
I cannot believe he uses Sat nav as a selling point, and can also tolerate Toyota's interior.. I don't even have a word to describe that old crap.. Australians are so out of date
Esxactly, paid review.
Yep, Australians are married to a brand and that's it. That's why Toyota keeps giving the same since 5 years ago
@@diegonaranjo2425 Haha, look it is better for handling and resale value. However, the H6 has better technology and the price is a lot better, this video said $2k which is completely inaccurate (top range H6 vs bottom range RAV4), the RAV4 Cruiser vs Haval H6 Ultra is currently a $12k difference!!! You have to compare apples to apples, eg. moon roof, power boot, 360 camera etc. The main reason I'm going to buy a Haval H6 soon is simply because I can't wait 20 months for a new RAV4 hybrid. It's like a mythical vehicle, a fairy tale that you can't buy.
Waiting 20 months for a new RAV4? That's ridiculous. How would Australians bear it? Even marrying Taylor Swift wouldn't take that long!@@elitechampion
When people comparing haval with Toyota.
You know "time" change
Toyota become overrated
@raymondi you're wrong, In Australia u don't have a lot choice, that's the reason
The Haval is a much more bang for buck than the Toyota. Haval has more safety features and the information system is very modern the Toyota one looks 20 years old and small… both good cars Haval has more features etc to me the Haval wins
Agree 10,000%. We just got a Jolion love it 35K with everything onboard compared to around 39k
as much as i love the advance tech for modern features in car. Yes toyota's infotech are outdated and slow. But functionalities and convenient buttons where is needed are way more better than every control in the infotech one itself. And haval's infotech isnt that smooths and fast enough though. Still abit laggy and is slow react. No need satellite navigation where is costing more than a phone or tablet itself, since everyone using android auto or apple car play OS app. But no Digital radio is a downside. And i'm sure RAV4 had better audio sound quality than Haval if im not wrong? Haval is certainly a bang for buck but the overall is still not appealing to me. Fuel consumption, suspensions, steering comfort, reliabilities and services, quality of anti rust material body, shifting gear stick, the look of body and conventional buttons RAV4 better. Not to mention you feel more confident on Toyota for longevity than new arrival Haval hybrid. Yes haval price tag is sound great and affordable... but it is what you get for the price tag. So i dont see much different of cost value if base on qualities and comfort comparison between them both in and out.
Haval is amazing
Wait 2 years and the Haval is super value for money.
The haval the perfect beautiful modern technological machine The machine that can fly and heat your butt while you drive 😍, beautiful so that in less than 2 years you will already have engine problems while a Toyota in 15 years you will just be worrying for engine problems
I feel like these videos need to be updated with something like, "in the last 5 year, Haval went down a tiny bit in price. Rav4 went up $11,000 in price"
Wait time on a Havel compared to a Rav 4 is probably the most compelling reason to buy one
I have the Haval H6 Ultra HEV in Thailand. After driving 500Kl in both city and highway I am getting 5.9 L/100km. Not sure how I get down to 5.2. I drive in economy mode with cruise control. The car drives so nice. The a/c seats keep you cool. Overall its a great car for the $$
My RAV4 Hybrid 2.5L____4.7 - 5.5 L/100km🙂😎👍
No thanks. Its rigged with spyware
@@Ведроид my bicycle does 0L /100km
@@ellgee9402 arhh .. a bottle or 2 of something on 100 .. beer, water, sodapop 🤣😄🤣😄😉
All of you here ...
Go to @17:44 in the link th-cam.com/video/7yUWbLDg_C0/w-d-xo.html there you get the real driving result from Car Guide ... not one under 8 L/100 km !!! (RAV4. H6 Hybrid, Forester Hybrid and a CX5 std. diesel) ....
and I heard/saw the same about all three hybrids from other sides .....
That makes me reconsider my idea of selling the XC90 and Jazz for a H6 PHEV ... I just did 6.02 L/100 km on pure long haul, 7.1 L/100 km in average on a 1288 km drive with about 100 - 120 km city driving with a 2.4 metric ton empty. 2.7 ton ready to go .. and that is accord. to board computer (max/min/avr) and the average after my driving log book too ...
(wife, me, 68 L diesel and baggage/utility bag for 4 days .. I'm good for 6'1" and close to 0.1 Metric Ton .. na na no comments do you know how expensive that near 0.1 T has been??? ... alone and on the way back curry puff's for half the village at home, several bottles of Wine from Uncle Heng & Son at ParkChong Nakhon Ratchasima .. Dessert wines. Normal wines, Full body wines, all in red and white ..and fruit wines as a little fun on the side ... Seriously Worth Going For !!! and half the fish shop 'at the bottle' on A1)
in my Volvo XC90 D5 AWD Executive, 2.5 L common rail diesel with 210 BHP, 6 speed Aisin A/T ... kept on cruise control as much as possible just under 2.000 RPM's (at about 108 - 110 km/h) ...
So a Havel just fell on the wanted list .... and Ross ... he he I can tilt my seats c") ....
Haval website shows a combined torque output of 530 NMS....So yes, that is insane! Also, the Haval has ventilated front seats against heating only for the Rav...Haval H6 is the true winner here..
RAV4 Cruiser has ventilated front seats.
@@mmcin719 but how much more do you need to pay to get those ventilated seat in the RAV4
@@lucky.penguin.slots14They are standard in the Cruiser model in Australia.
@@mmcin719 but how much more over the Haval do you have to pay.
@@lucky.penguin.slots14 the Rav 4 was approximately $10,000 AUD more but it is also AWD, cheaper model Ravs are the same price as Havel with less equipment. l believe our Rav is worth the extra price as Toyotas hold their value better than any other brand they are also very reliable and you can expect up to 500,000km without major issues. They also have by far the biggest network of dealers in Australia. The cost of servicing id $230 per year for the first 5 years and the battery warranty is 10 years as long as it goes to Toyota every year. I own a Toyota Land Cruiser prado 2009 and a Lexus 2002 and both have been trouble free I know plenty of people getting huge distances from Toyotas. . I know someone who has a business and they own 5 LDV vans, made in China, he has had no end of trouble with them and would never buy another as they have been a disaster with continual break downs that are causing lots of trouble in his courier business..My nephew is a mechanic, a couple of customers own Great Wall Ute's, GWM make Havel. He hates working on the GW Ute's and says they are only designed to last 60,000 km. I know Havel have a 7 year warranty here but there must be suspicion as to how much trouble you will have eventually. Havel have 530 newton metres of torque feeding front wheel drive. I can only imagine how much the traction control would have to work on wet and slippery roads. The Havel looks to be great value for money and would be a good short term purchase however expect ordinary resale value and potential problems if you keep it for many years.
Very happy with the suspension of my Haval H6 petrol. No issue with that. No problem with infotainment panel while driving. Take a bit of adjustment to get used to it. Haval H6 is great value for money with safety features only available in premium cars. Decided on Haval H6 after checking out Rav 4, CX5, Outlander, VW.
ok bot that need to clean their mess with the suspension
@@carlosbaldwin6335I drove it today and it went over bumps much better than my cc Passat which is one of the smoothest cars you can drive. I think you're RAV4 is trash
@@RobertoBazzan i dont have a rav
You can't see the gear selector in bright sunlight and don't know what gear you're in....huh😲 The gear selected is shown on the digital dash....c'mon mate 😉
LOL this review is hilariously biased.
i was just about to post that
Was such a ridiculous statement. bias 100%
The only highlight of RAV4 is the brand itself, otherwise, it's sh*t.
Is that LCD screen from 10 years ago? Isn't it too much to cut costs?
I'm struggling to understand how you get a fair consistent analysis while having two separate people analyse two separate cars.
How much did TOYOTA pay them SO OBVIOUS...LOL
Who needs digital radio in 2022?
RAV4 inside is a deal breaker
And sat navigation? Who uses in car navigation?
I'm pretty sure Google maps are far better substitute to Toyota's own navigation... i've never experienced anything better than google
@@EXcellentstuFF yes, if the car supports CarPlay or Android Auto, who cares about the built-in nav or digital radio? The old-fashioned infotainment in RAV4 is terribly designed.
I was disappointed that the Haval didn't have DAB but then I realised that phone coverage is better than DAB coverage and virtually every station is available in an app. Sure enough, it works well and I don't miss DAB.
Did I just watch a Toyota sponsored video?
No you did not
@@Drivecomau well it seems so, the only + point Rav4 really has is fuel economy, rest is ugly and shitty AF... H6 is a winner
@@Drivecomau it was a forced winner, even from your own comments. Or you should say it is idiosyncratic winner.
Comment section says otherwise 🎉
The Toyota interior looks like it was ripped out from an 05 model
There is no doubt that Toyota is the king of the past, and the reliability and preservation rate are very good. But Toyota was stuck in a patent it had invincible about 15 years ago, a 2.5-liter naturally aspirated engine, an E-CVT transmission, and a nickel-metal hydride battery pack. Although these reliability are very good, but with the update of electronic control technology, IGBT, and motor technology, it is already the technology of the previous era. Looking at the "classic" interior, it is a masterpiece of pragmatism. The monitors erected like tombstones seem to put a 90s Toshiba TV in the car. Old-fashioned, not at all the high spirits of Toyota 20 years ago.
Boys,
I'm sorry but you have missed the mark on some of the items
You can get DAB on your phone and its not a missed sales point.
Haval has Auto-Parking Assist and R4 doesn't.
No one uses shitty Sat Nav anymore
The H6 Destroys a lot of mid-size SUVs in Hybrid/Fuel mode and you even mentioned in the written review the Haval was @ low 6s
Its not a 12-15month wait like the Rav4
Haval Price is cheaper, even with custom paint.
Havals internals destroy the Rav4. Rav4 looks old and dated for that amount of $. Haval looks like a spaceship inside. And i'm almost certain that they will provide software updates for the infotainment system to re-organise it and provide a more intuitive design. The only complaint im hearing is about the seat heating location in the menu
You mention the suspension - this is hardly going to be a issue unless you're driving country roads all day every day. And eventually a local provider will have a suspension kit to tune if you really need.
And haval has 7 years unlimited kms warranty, Toyota has 5 years
It’s Chinese….enough said.
@@paulmanser753 so is your phone, your household appliances and probably half of your current car. Point being?
I’m concerned about the resale value compared to the rav4
@@Reihana_ I have no plans to sell it, and will drive it until it die. If it gives me 10 years ill be happy and ill have saved enough anyway to buy a new car by then
I’m still waiting for my RAV4 Hybrid Cruiser but in a couple of years I may trade for a Haval. You have to hand it to Haval and China, they are really coming along in leaps and bounds and feel in a couple of years may surpass all the opposition. Well done 👏🏽
We looked at the Rav but didn’t like the price tag compared to goodies. Switched to the Havel best decision we made.
Hey, I am in the future right now. It is 2024. Did you trade your RAV4 for a Haval?
But you can’t buy the Toyota so as long as Haval has stock 😀
I’d just like you to know that I’m not looking for a Toyota Rav 4 so not everyone is looking for one as you say.
It is a straight knockout if you compare the safety features between H6 Hybrid and RAV 4
It’s very clear that Toyota’s design department is still living in the 1990s. Obviously Toyota believes us the Ozzies will support them unconditionally forever. Time to improve Toyota!
Great comparo! I'm from México; Infortunately, the waiting list for the RAV4 is currently 10 months.
I test drove the Haval Hybrid and loced it. I will pick mine ine the next 3-5 days, since it is availability is great
Great and concise review,
Thanks guys
Toyota RAV4 would have been a good car if you could find one. I went to every Toyota dealers in Sydney today and they all said wait time of 1 to 2 years. And if you want to get a near new one right now, it is from 58,990 you have to pay almost 10,000 dollars over the manufacturer price. So the actual price difference is closer to 13,000 dollars. With that price difference, I wouldn't mind 1 extra litre/100km of fuel consumption. Plus the interior of Haval is much better looking than RAV4.
What I would like to know is what drive mode the Haval was set on Eco, normal or sport, when working out the fuel consumption? Also why wouldnt you compare the safety features of both cars not just the haval?
Because the haval has alot more they can't even compare it
Because this review was paid for by Toyota. They don't compare anything the Haval wins on, a lot more space=unimportant, safety features and extra features are never compared. Negatives of the Toyota were not even mentioned or straight up turned into positives like that 90s interior lol.
Hey did anyone miss the Lane center assist in H6? or is it there in RAV4 also. If I am not mistaken RAV 4 only has lane keep assist and not lane center assist
You do realise you can control the sound of the cargo door when it opens & closes. So much for knowing about researching a vehicle!!!!!!!
Sponsored by Toyota $$$
pity you can't get a RAV4 for over 12 months... we went Haval and test drove it and purchased it on the spot as it was instantly ready to pick up.
“Fuel economy of the H6 is not competitive in this segment”.
Subaru Forester hybrid has entered the chat…
the price for rav 4? Am I living in a different world of Aus?
I would argue that you aren't doing a fair comparison.
To say extra space is just nice to have but not needed. Then you can't compare them in that category.
Economy... you can't test that in 1 day on the Haval. And also you are comparing the top level Haval to the Base Level Ran 4. The Haval spec wise is better to price against the Edge. So the price difference is not a few grand but $60,650 for the Rav4 vs $45,990.00 is a different of $14,660. That's not a few thousand.
And finally... you never mentioned the fact you can't get a Rav4 at the moment. Where as The Haval Hybrid is in stock.
I hope they got paid well.
18 months wait list. I was reading a comment on reddit of a guy who had ordered himself one and was told to wait 18 months (why would you even, anyway..), he waited it out and rang the dealer and they told him it could take another 18 months. Imagine a problem so large that this reviewer didn't even mention it. Just happened to 'forget' that little one did ya.
@@N1rOx I had a friend with a similar experience. Told to wait 24 months, so he got the haval on a 12 month lease to cover the gap.
After the first 12 months when the lease company asked him if he wanted to extend he just cancelled the Rav4 order and leased the Haval since it was just as good as far as he was concerned.
Think where people don't touch on with Haval is that full EV mode can kick in anywhere from 0-110km per hour. Never seen a Rav kick in full EV mode at anywhere past 60km per hour.
Is it just me or anyone else worried that Tom is looking towards camera all the time while driving, he is hardly looking at the roads 😂
Good comparison though 👍
i noticed that
Convex mirrors are crap, also the power output on the naval is heaps more… Toyota like Mazda are overrated give it time and the naval will be as good as the Toyota remember hyuanda
Rav4 Hybrid - king of the segment is now a contender. That says a lot about H6 HEV. Subaru & MG HEV were no where close in comparison.
The old man sounded biased from the beginning and the last segment of "I play dumb, u act smart and you win" was just outrageous and so superficial. Rav4 Hybrid with comparable features n specs is priced well above H6 price of $45k, and not to mention 10-18 months wait.
Carexpert and other reviews say it averaged circa 5.7L/100km. DAB, satnav is things from the past. We have phone (carplay & AA) for that. Yes I do believe they need to get suspension tuned for Aussie road. H6 inside is absolutely modern and looks way cooler than Rav4.
Ps: I own 2017 Rav4 n had own H6 briefly in 2020 (sold it coz of turbo lag and bodyroll).
Im concerned about body roll around corners for the H6, and handling in the wet. Can you elaborate please?
Where to buy a Rav4 now? Please advise.
One thing I like about the Haval is the way that Android Auto is integrated into the HUD. The Rav4 is more aimed at oldies that don't understand tech.
not aimed at anything other than cost saving and efficiency. the brand name will carry it. toyota could shit in australians cereal and they'd still pay 100k for it.
The blinkers are on the left, arent they usually supposed to me on the right?
How can GPS be an issue, while the tech generally is 10 years behind the Havel’s offering.
it's not an issue. everyone uses their phone's now. Just like Toyota, Drive is out of touch.
Toyota just can’t get its design right. It just felt so old and cheap, even Lexus NX which is pretty much a fancy RAV4 , outside looks like Darth Vader’s helmet and inside look way too busy….
does it comes with android auto wireless ?
Its wired. But wireless charging pad
As always your videos are fab. Appreciate your work.
But I have confusion if you want to choose between Rav4 HV GXL AWD Auto CVT which is now $50453 and Haval H6 Ultra hybrid which is $46103 then which one would you go for.
I am getting both the cars in next week for the above mentioned price, so availability is not the issue for me.
I am really confused and unable to make the decision. After sale market of haval is not so good as compared to Rav4.
And now they have raised the price of rav4 so I am not sure is it worth to buy Rav4 or haval at this time now.
Is this something you can please guide on.
By any chance if you can please reply little early it would be really appreciated.
I am in a similar fix bro...between Nissan X-Trail ST or Haval H6 Ultra. Have you made up your mind ?
@@svdfxd HAVAL hybrid without any doubt.
Kindly note I am NOT talking about petrol model (it has very bad fuel economy)
It is haval ultra hybrid model which you should go for without any doubt.
I managed to book it for 44400 aud with few accessories.
Fuel economy for haval h6 hybrid is close to 6.5 l / 100 km
luxurious interior and 7 year warranty.
Drawback of haval hybrid is - no satelitte navigation, only 2wd available.
@@rahulpawar8750 Thanks for your response. The hybrid model only comes in FWD I guess. Hope they come up with AWD soon
This was a bit of a waste of my time
If you can drive both and say ...its the Haval for me means you just can't wait for the Toyota.
Great video! I have feedback though on the not seeing whether you are in drive or reverse comment, so...when the car goes forward then you are in drive. Jokes, very good video. I don't think South Africa is getting that Haval H6. It looks so good and I would have one.
It on the dash as well.
We are. The H6 hybrid is already on sale in South Africa.
Lmao this "review" is obviously paid for by Toyota, they weren't even trying to hide the bias. Haval H6 is much better in every way, shows you how overpriced the other brands are. China makes the best hybrids and EVs by far.
Toyotas infotainment system! Hahaha. My 2016 Kia Sportage had a more modern system than it
I really like RAV4 but got a h6. It's just next Thursday vs next Apr.
Any of Toyota's car interior is as simple as 10 years ago.
greetings from Brazil. I could not understand a single word the blond guy said, it's impossible. But I understood about 99% of the other guy.
the space in haval make t a sweet family car. Toyota sets the meaning of quality. but if haval can catch up in next 10 years, then it may help Toyota to drop price. Toyota-tax is ridiculous expensive. I remember back in 2009 hilux is around 50k, now you pay 20k more just for the brand.
I JUST LOVE MY H6 HYBRID GREAT LOOKS ESPECIALLY THE AUTOMATIC PARKING & THE HEADS UP DISPLAY THE DEALER TURNED OFF/DOWN THE ANNOYING TECH SO NOT A PROBLEM DROVE THE MG HS BUT THE H6 WON OUT IN EVERY WAY
Haval gets my money
I am lucky I want to start looking to upgrade about Christmas 2023 to have by2024 so I love the Mazda CX-5 or the Hybrid RAV4 fuel cost leading me to RAV4 but I am going to have a good look at HAVAL hybrid! So we will see what 2023 has to offer in the next eleven months.
It's almost Christmas 2023, Which one did you get eventually?
@@wen87n I ordered myself a XSE Rav 4 should have it by Christmas 2024
But you can't buy a Hybrid RAV4 for love nor money! 🤣
The winner is the Haval H6 Hybrid, as you can buy one . Unlike the Rav4 Hybrid. 😊
These two cars are now in different price segments
Definitely Will choose haval, however, front wheel drive is bit concerned on Australia road, would be much better on AWD
and soft break capacity
Completely irrelevant. Majority of cars are FWD and it doesn't matter one bit.
More concerned about the infotainment system rigged with spyware
@@Mububban23 havent driven one have you... the petrol version breaks traction at the drop of a hat, more power & torque on the hybrid will make it much worse, especially in the wet. the traction control doesnt catch the wheel spin at all.
it is fun mind you 😄
@@wd9807 sounds a bit shit then. Apart from Falcons, Commodores and my mate's S2000, every other car I've driven has been FWD and it's made zero real world difference to daily driving on bitumen roads.
I did have an old Volvo that lit up its front in the wet, roundabouts were....interesting too. But the suspension was shot by that stage.
The power output of these two are completely in different league, comparing fuel consumption without compare the real performance its a rip
Honestly this is bias lol I love toyata but Chinese car brands now a days are not holding back on new features.
Won't choose any of them, the two main adventures of a hybrid are less fuel consumption and more power. I can just get an electric car instead, BYD Atto 3 or wait for the Tesla Model Y, zero fuel cost + electric motor is technically more advanced.
Rav4 XSE hybrid FWD now cost $53k on Toyota website AWD cost $57,999
I am so hoping Haval will get rid of the lights on the bum and square it up a bit to match the front. The rounded look and basic lights give me Mitsubishi vibes which I hate!
i like the light on the bum people know they can drive into them
The review is not accurate as the price to driveway is more than $10k more for the Toyota, they quoted driveway price on Haval and didn't mention driveway price on Toyota which is minimum $55 k
I'm getting 6.4 at the moment. I do agree about the infotainment system though
Toyota is for oldies, they are legacy buyers. New gen wants Value for Money and Smart features which GWM+MG are providing at a much lower cost
I chose the Haval H6 Hybrid premium because of one thing that most manufactures seem to forget about and thats tall drivers. I'm 6'5" and my head hits the roof in the Rav. Tonne of head space in the H6 and this will be my first car with a sun roof. All other cars lower there headsapce to accomodate for the sunroof. Not in the Haval! Plus, the Toyota interiors are still looking like there from the 90's.
Honestly who gives a crap about DAB or Satellite Radio? Everyone has a phone and they all run Android Auto and Apple Carplay. I rather a free and detailed Google Maps service and my own Spotify/Apple Music playlist than over the air radio advertisements
I am still waiting haval to release phev h6 to australian market.
Close your eye's and turn the gear selector to the left and it's in reverse turn it to the right and it goes forward. When in reverse the rear view camera is activated which should tell you something 😂
Because you don't/won't take time to learn the media, does not mean its bad. I suspect you have an Apple phone? 🤔
We also understand that long term loan cars is where you can put something nice on the drive, not that this would affect your review.
By the way, the gear you are in is on the dash D or R and even P. Our Discovery Sport gear dial has the same issue with reflections.
As for Navigation, Waze, Google maps etc have up to date information, plus search for any service. OSM maps work without service on Android Auto, and yo can save Google maps for out of service areas.
DAB is ok for major cities, nearest DAB to Cairns is Brisbane. DAB is out dated with LiSTNR and others, where there is no service, Bluetooth android auto/carplay.
Towing capability of both? Size does matter, Rav4 rear seat is too small.
Haval is much better than Toyota , I’m having and enjoying it ❤
Well done guys, thanks heaps. Availability of RAV4 could be a dealbreaker for lot of out there.
End of the day you get what you pay for....
Haval Defo wins. Rav 4 has a 3 year wait at the moemnt due to them bulk selling to taxi companies. Haval wait is currently 2-3 months.
18 month wait vs 8 week wait tho
"..you CANT add these up.."
EXACTLY what I want a car reviewer to say.
the torque figure can't be added to 500nm.
That's to a degree misleading advertisement from HAVAL.
0-100km remains at 8sec or so. THAT IS NOT a 500nm car.
also for a hybrid the consumption isnt outstanding.
TO be fair, China roads are pretty good so their A and B roads are standard. Very few bad B roads. So their tuning is expected for COMFORT.
so expect US style ride comfort and compromise for handling.
Sunroof and space goes to HAVAL.
Satellite and Digital radio does nothing for me.
Ok. As a previous Prius owner, with the Prius my average fuel economy was 4.9 litres to 100 km. My Rav 4 with the 2.4 litre petrol averaged about 9 litres in real life. So you want to actually sell me, that a Rav 4 hybrid that weights much more than a Prius only returns 5.2 litres on the road? I'm sorry, but I'm just not buying it, no car ever returns the fuel figures stated on paper.
Rav hybrid claims 4.7 litres 100 klm FWD / AWD 4.8 litres 100 klm I have the hybrid FWD and have just over 10,000 klm on mine and the best I get is 5.8 litres to 100 klm
GWM is still a privately owned company by far though being tied to the political regime which I oppose. But it is fair to say that being a private company, not owned by Chinese government, it may still at least have some decency to sell reliable products elsewhere. Although troubled with reliability in comparison with Toyota, it still has plenty of room to grow. I guess people should weigh between the political concerns and the facts of the car performance in line with their individual needs. After all, we need to respect individual choices rather than imposing our own views onto others.
Maybe haval is more powerful than rav4? It’s like you compare fuel consumption between Mercedes with Toyota. You know Toyota will win but it’s not the point. The same as “takes time to get used to the new design and no button thing”.
You forgot aesthetics - The Haval is way better looking
So basically whichever things are better in the h6 those are not important stuff, come on ... be fair in your review. There is a clear difference in seating room especially in the rear seat. Haval suspension is way better, acceleration is smoother, infotainment is way way better. Overall driving experience is better. Period.
The Haval shows the gear on the screen right in front of your face - you don't need to look down at the gear indicator. This guy's a bit of a dinosaur.
Havel should have offered the hybrid in the entry grade spec like the Toyota R4 attracts a broader audience eg R4 hybrid in entry spec used by several gov Dept , corporate fleet car rental,taxi, uber , Telstra and the list goes on and remember these organisations don't buy one they buy 10 to 20 in one go
He really hadn't done his full homework on the H6 hybrid in regards to combined power / torque. The 2 speed shift integrates both petrol & electric for tremendous power..
Sat Nav, come on bring yourself up todate ie Android auto IPhone connect..
rav4 Hybrid Vs Sorento Hybrid please
Terrible review the H6 is far better than the Rav 4 and what the old man is giving it credit.
Most car reviewers in Australia are unable to come to term, how much China has advanced in car technology. Most have ancap of 5 in safety. Still have the old mentality of Chinese product like there did with early Japanese car.
Also the reviews have high expectation of the drive train
There are not exactly build for racing.
Most owners are city dwellers with speed limit of 50km and lucky to reach maximum of 100km on daily drive. Chinese cars are alot more competitive in all aspects. Average family would find it prohibitive to buy cars above $45000 especially with the rise in house mortgage, electricity
gas, petrol etc.
Will, if only have 10 function，give it 10 buttons. Of course everything is gona be easy.
Hahaha good one!
Very disappointed with the bias to Toyota. Haval brings modern instrumentation, an exceptional drive train at at an exceptional price. How can you compare no on-board sat nav in the Havel when smart phone connectivity does all of that. Toyota has a great proven product mechanically, but has been well left behind with technology.....
thank you
By the quality of their pros and cons, they could've just said "Haval Bad cuz China".
Nope the Haval is an amazing choice. Looks , tech and price point.
Lol the comment section is the opposite to your review 😂😂😂
Rav4 hybrid cost 2.7 million in the philippines but H6 hybrid cost only 1.8 million pesos 240horsepower very powerful than rav 4 only 176 horsepower thats why i bought the H6 sorry toyota
The interior of the Toyota is so outdated it’s not funny. The Haval wins hands down…