You mentioned that JWH was buried in the Concordia Cemetery, but you didn’t mention that John Selman is also buried in the Concordia Cemetery within eye shot of JWH’s grave. Just an FYI for the listener. Terrific video with Kurt House.
He is a great Uncle back on my Grandpaw Hardins side in my family tree. His people came from NC to Tenn to Texas. Many of us descendants today still have a mean streak yet are good-hearted to friends. Our connection is through his grand father Hardin being a grandfather in my line.
Many folks underestimate the term provenance, which means the "history of ownership", in the evaluation of guns with attributed history. "Providence" is a different word, meaning God, folks. Nowadays, provenance is everything, and rarely was the serial number of a gun used in the Old West recorded. There are a few exceptions: the gun used by Hardin to hold up the Gem Saloon was confiscated by Deputy Ten Eyck and when it was taken to the sheriff's office, fortunately the serial number was recorded, leaving no doubt to the authenticity of that particular gun. Another prime example, is the "Gun That Killed Billy the Kid", the Colt 1873 Single Action serial number 55,093, and there are eight pistols ordered from the Colt factory by Bat Masterson of which the serial numbers are verified similarly. After collecting guns for more than 50 years, one gains a respect for those guns which have indisputable provenance, because there are so few, in spite of so many claims these days of a gun, like a photograph, to have belonged (or to be) to a now famous person. There are rules and there are myths, and anyone aspiring to collect the REAL west does himself a favor by gaining an education on a subject first.
That is correct, should really be referred to as a Colt Model 1877, since it was only Colt Ally Benjamin Kittredge Co. that named the three calibers, the "Lightning" actually referred to the .38 caliber, the "Thunderer" which referred to only the .41 caliber, and the least known "Rainmaker" which referred to the rare Model in .32 caliber of which they only made about 300 examples.
This is a good video. I think he made one verbal mistake on the point he was making at 33:30 where he talks about the picture showing "entry" and "exit" wounds. I think he meant "does not look like an entry wound. It looks like an exit wound." At least that is consistent with what he said the previous minute or so. In any case, well done.
While John was in prison, Jane Hardin and her 3 children lived under the care of Fred and Hettie DUDERSTADT, and then the children when Jane passed at age 35. She is buried in the Asher Cemetery, Karnes Co. Texas. This cemetery was lost in time until we discovered its location, found the current owner who allowed us a visit. We have several videos about her brother Brown Bowen who was hung in Gonzales and others about John Wesley Hardin.
You mentioned that JWH was buried in the Concordia Cemetery, but you didn’t mention that John Selman is also buried in the Concordia Cemetery within eye shot of JWH’s grave. Just an FYI for the listener. Terrific video with Kurt House.
Thanks for all your great content, Wild West History Association! The real history is more fascinating than the dime novel fluffery.
He is a great Uncle back on my Grandpaw Hardins side in my family tree. His people came from NC to Tenn to Texas. Many of us descendants today still have a mean streak yet are good-hearted to friends. Our connection is through his grand father Hardin being a grandfather in my line.
Many folks underestimate the term provenance, which means the "history of ownership", in the evaluation of guns with attributed history. "Providence" is a different word, meaning God, folks. Nowadays, provenance is everything, and rarely was the serial number of a gun used in the Old West recorded. There are a few exceptions: the gun used by Hardin to hold up the Gem Saloon was confiscated by Deputy Ten Eyck and when it was taken to the sheriff's office, fortunately the serial number was recorded, leaving no doubt to the authenticity of that particular gun. Another prime example, is the "Gun That Killed Billy the Kid", the Colt 1873 Single Action serial number 55,093, and there are eight pistols ordered from the Colt factory by Bat Masterson of which the serial numbers are verified similarly. After collecting guns for more than 50 years, one gains a respect for those guns which have indisputable provenance, because there are so few, in spite of so many claims these days of a gun, like a photograph, to have belonged (or to be) to a now famous person. There are rules and there are myths, and anyone aspiring to collect the REAL west does himself a favor by gaining an education on a subject first.
I think that's a double action Colt Lightening, mfg. up here in Hartford, Ct.
That is correct, should really be referred to as a Colt Model 1877, since it was only Colt Ally Benjamin Kittredge Co. that named the three calibers, the "Lightning" actually referred to the .38 caliber, the "Thunderer" which referred to only the .41 caliber, and the least known "Rainmaker" which referred to the rare Model in .32 caliber of which they only made about 300 examples.
This is a good video. I think he made one verbal mistake on the point he was making at 33:30 where he talks about the picture showing "entry" and "exit" wounds. I think he meant "does not look like an entry wound. It looks like an exit wound." At least that is consistent with what he said the previous minute or so. In any case, well done.
What happened to John Wesley's wife?
While John was in prison, Jane Hardin and her 3 children lived under the care of Fred and Hettie DUDERSTADT, and then the children when Jane passed at age 35. She is buried in the Asher Cemetery, Karnes Co. Texas. This cemetery was lost in time until we discovered its location, found the current owner who allowed us a visit.
We have several videos about her brother Brown Bowen who was hung in Gonzales and others about John Wesley Hardin.
Aka J. Dub H.