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"We"re such an attractive investment that there's a waitlist. That's why we're spending a ton of money on asvertisement so people can skip said waitlist." How moronic does one have to be for such absolute nonsense to make sense? Bullshit!
The moniker golden spurs originated from the spurs taken to 500 dead nobles and given to the church of our lady, not from the riches taken after the battle.
@@robert-surcouf It's shocking they got that wrong, it's the whole fame of the event. Not to mention that the Schield en Vriend legend is about a stealthy series of nightly executions.
@@MrRandomSuperhero What is so ironic about those golden spurs is that after the battle of Courtrai, Flanders seemed close to become independant from france. At Roosebeeke in 1382, Charles 6 who was only 14 ordered to take back the spurs and it seemed he will be a great king. In hindsight, both things will be far from reality.
David is far better at narration than Phillip - the latter constantly sounded like he was holding back a giggle, making it seem like he was telling a joke, rather than describing the events of and surrounding a medieval battle. David is the main reason I subscribed to HM - his narration of the (second) battle of Lechfeld sounded far better than that of K&G and SandRhoman. Phillip sounded like a historian giving a lecture, David sounds like a professional narrator in a high quality documentary.
Fun fact: at the start, the "Goedendag" is mentioned. It means "good day" as when the opponent is struck in the neck or head, he nods as if greeting you.
@@FrankVZ-q7s Were you meaning to say something else? This doesn't read like a native speaker... "those 'goedendags' didn't have a spike on it... it had a spike on it." So it didn't have a spike on it, but it did? What did you mean?
The word goedendag means hello, and also to nod the head as a greating. De goedendag was a wooden club with a iron spike on its end. When the soldier plunged that spike into the throat of his oponent, the head of the dying man would lower in the direction of the blow, as if he nodded 'goedendag' (good day). As a kid they told us that a goedendag was a rod and a round metal ball with spikes attached with a chain to the rod. These weapons have existed but are not the goedendag refered to in this story
I’m from West Flanders and proud of my forefathers fighting to be free from the French dominance. It must have taken a whole lot of courage as a peasant or burgher to fight these highly trained French knights. Respect !
Their cavalry getting decimated by infantry was a problem which the overconfident French would encounter on many occasions throughout their campaigns, for instance they suffered similar defeats by the English at Agincourt as well as the Ottomans at Nicopolis, where their usual haughty charge would result in a very disorderly frenzy. Nevertheless, this short-sighted resistance merely resulted in a worse outcome for Flanders just a couple years later, with more severe taxation on the Flemish population being implemented through a treaty between the count of Flanders and the king of France, the heaviest burden being carried by the peasants, carrying out another revolt. Thus, I do not believe this uproar in the harsh reality of a feudal society was beneficial.
@ indeed, the battle of Westrozebeke in 1382 was a tragic defeat for Flemish independence. One observes the nominally Flemish nobility switching allegiances as they see fit or befitting their own financial or landed interests. The “common” people in the long run not able to rid themselves of an oppressive nobility (what’s new ?) It would take more than 600 years to begin to have a semblance of democracy and a smidgen of a fairer society. The French cultural dominance persisted until the Second World War. Gent university taught in Flemish after many, many hard fought “battles” only in 1930. How a battle in the Middle Ages had a lasting effect right up to not so long ago.
@@NapoleonAquila Artillery wasn't considered magical whatsoever. Even the Romans had used it. Nor did artillery play a decisive role in the battle you name here. If anything played a major role, it were the hot summer conditions. It wasn't even a (decisive) military victory. It was mostly a diplomatic and political victory due to the treaty of Athis-sur-Orge. Also, you have to explain the "you" and the "we". You do realise neither of you were even born?
Because Flanders rebelled, making the French debt to the Templars unpayable. The Templars were ordered to be arrested & their assets seized in 1307. The 193-year old order would be officially dissolved and absorbed into the Hospitalliers in 1312.
Yeah I'm sure that's the only reason they were prosecuted. Definitely not the alleged satanic rituals, desecration of holy images, debt slavery to the ruling families of Europe to control kings and countries (definitely not still going on). Headquarters just so happened to be in the ruins of the Temple of Soloman. Sure that's just a coincidence though.
@@enis7x Actually that was the biggest reason, Philip IV owned so much debt to the church and Templars. With the blessing fo the Church he attacked the Templars and tried to steal their riches.
they actually didn't say "shield and friend" (or in old flemish: "schild en vriend") but they asked "des gilden vriend ?" or translated "are you a friend of the guilds ?". The french, not understanding the question got murdered. It was because of the oral passing of the story and an how "des" is abbreviated to the word " 's " that we got the phrase " 's gilden vriend ?" mixed up with "schild en vriend" since the pronounciation of those two would have been the same *edit*, the name of the weapon "goedendag" literally means "hello". Sarcasm wasn't unknown to the flemish :)
Was looking for this - my aunt is tourguide in Bruges and has told me similar. One thing that always strikes me about the story, there would have been a fair few English in the city also, just as hopeless at pronouncing dutch gutterals!
In Norway we say "god dag" meaning literally good day, being the equivalent of hello. Sounds and looks to me like the literal meaning of goedendag is the same.
Thank you for making this video! Im from what is now Flanders but then Brabant and it's always nice to see History of our area brought to the wider audience as our history is very underrated! Maybe a cool video for in the future The Battle of Worringen. :) anyways much love to you
Likewise here, was about to type the same thing. Weird question: do you know the battle of Worringen from a comic book called De Rode Ridder? Or from somewhere else? cheers
@@arozes8324 both battles are pretty well described with attention to the actual history in the comic books, it has it's fantasy, but it's based around the characters, not so the events. Love the series, have almost all of 'em, some really old ones.
In fact, the Battle of Courtrai (1302) is an exception, because most of the time the Flemish were crushed by the French. This was especially the case during the battles of Mons-en-Pévèle (1304), Cassel (1328) and Roosebeke (1382). After Roosebeke, the French even recovered the golden spurs lost at Courtrai and put them on display in the Basilica of Saint-Denis near Paris.
Kudos to the team that works on this channel. I know we never really give you guys any credit but thank you. Because of you guys, I am now reading history.
Man, I can recall Baz Battles presenting this battle on their channel many years ago. It was one of their best videos. All things truly have come around. Amazing job HM.
In fact, the Battle of Courtrai (1302) is an exception, because most of the time the Flemish were (literally) crushed by the French. This was especially the case during the battles of Mons-en-Pévèle (1304), Cassel (1328) and Roosebeke (1382). After Roosebeke, the French even recovered the golden spurs lost at Courtrai and put them on display in the Basilica of Saint-Denis near Paris.
21:39 Pikemen in prepared positions? Soggy Terrain? Stream Crossing? Ditches? Not hard enough. Let's _run into our own ranged units_ for additional issues.
Honestly shows us leaders at the time saw the french noble cavalry as the most elite units of their time, pretty much giving them the "invincible" title. Add to it that they grocely underestimated the quality of the flemish equipment and their training.
Not to mention the one advisor giving a very solid idea of screening the knights with infantry would probably have made this fight very different if they listened to him at all.
It was called battle of the golden spurs not for the wealth, but because of the many golden spurs collected from the slain French nobility. They were on exposition but the French reclaimed them in a later campaign. The ones on display nowadays are replicas.
Well done! I'm from Kortrijk and the church that still exists today( Church of our Lady ) is a silent reminder of that period. now it is partially a musuem called 1302. If you are in the region you should give it a visit it's highly recommended. Some chronicles are mentioning the fall of Robert Artois while he was on the ground and slaughtered by the Flemish militia because the rule of giving quarter was only for nobleman to nobleman not giving by common footsoldiers . I guess he had bad luck .
In fact, the Battle of Courtrai (1302) is an exception, because most of the time the Flemish were crushed by the French. This was especially the case during the battles of Mons-en-Pévèle (1304), Cassel (1328) and Roosebeke (1382). After Roosebeke, the French even recovered the golden spurs lost at Courtrai and put them on display in the Basilica of Saint-Denis near Paris.
@@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont Yes indeed, but these facts are whole other stories. The point here is that the French cavalry had been defeated for the first time in history by infantry in 1302. That caused a huge shock wave throughout Europe. For example the Pope at the time banned all church ceremonies in Flanders for one year, he was a Frenchman after all .
Robert made a duty for himself to follow the family's tradition by dying in battle like his father at Mansourah in 1250, his grandson at Vannes in 1342 (technically, he was just deadly injured and died at London) and his great great grandson at Nicopolis in 1396.
This is a very important battle for many reasons: 1) This led to the King of France imposing heavy taxation on the Jewish financiers and bankers in France, forcing some of them to accept debt forgiveness or face the stake. Several of them were indeed burnt alive. 2) The King of France also ordered the dissolution of the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon (the Templars) as they were owed a lot of money. Their leaders (and, at times, regular members) were heavily persecuted, tortured, despoiled and, again for hundreds, hung or burnt at the stake. 3) Part of reasoning behind the beginning of the Hundred Years War can be traced back to that singular battle. Robert of Artois died, opening the succession crisis in the County of Artois, which pitted Mahaut of Artois (daughter of the aforementioned Robert) and her 15 year old nephew, another Robert of Artois, the Crimson Baron. The Salic law had always stated that France was ruled by agnatic succession (meaning that women do not inherit as long as they have a male relative living). However, the county of Artois was ruled under "proximity of blood", meaning that Mahaut was within her rights, especially as her nephew had not reached majority. This led to Robert spending most of his adult life intriguing and launching appeals (and even rebellions!) to get Artois back. One of those appeals was based on a ruling done on the County of Flanders. His last appeal involved perjury and he was sentenced in absentia by the King of France. After taking refuge among his relatives in Brabant and Namur, he fled to England where he became an advisor to the young King of England, urging him to take up arms against France, etc. He was even Earl of Richmond for a little while. When the King of France confiscated the Duchy of Guyenne, he cited Edward's protection of Robert of Artois as one of the main reasons. All because some Flemish peasant had killed his granddad while he was still a minor, 35 years prior. He is *the* main character of a series of books called The Accursed Kings (Les Rois Maudits), written by Maurice Druon. George R. R. Martin credited it as the single biggest inspiration behind the writing of A Song of Ice and Fire.
As a fleming, I must give compliments on the pronounciation of flemish towns and the weapons that the flemings used. Not perfect, but very good indeed!
@@orlandodanielgonzalezalcar3360I assume he is a supporter of splitting up Belgium in a Dutch speaking part (Flanders) and a French speaking part (Wallonia)
I enjoy Hostory Marche more than watching the Super Bowl. Thank you so much for your quite extraordinary outstanding work. I love Epic History too, but YOU ARE THE BEST !!!
This was the first cideo i see from you. it´s amzing, i never tought that I could imagine medieval battles to be like this, your narration is doing most of the job. really nice.
Quality and quantity! Your videos are getting better by the day, even though they are already top notch! Any chance we get a video on Litovschina? The 3 sieges of Moscow by Algirdas of Lithuania. Havent seen anyone do a video about it before.
This battle alongside several others such as Bannockburn, Crecy, Poitiers and others showed that the dominant days of heavy cavalry was over and that massed infantry in defensive formation, backed up by archers now ruled the battlefield.
If the defensive formation is on a hill or a muddy terrain following a rainy day, you're right but the heavy cavalry wasn't invincible, even before the 14th century.
@@robert-surcouf Not just those types of position, though as picking ground is a key requirement of any successful army. Said tactics could work on flat and open ground, with flanks secured by man made or natural obstacles. True, but apart from battles during the crusades and Byzantine/seljuk fighting in the east, it was still a rarity for infantry to defeat cavalry before the 1300s.
HistoryMarche & Epic History are the only two history channels I can watch!... Both having great narrators and epic descriptive visuals!... amazing work HistoryMarche!!
The correct pronunciation of "Schild en Vriend" appears to be an urban legend. If true it would have worked, the French not being able to utter any Flemish words, let alone the particular "sch". However it is more likely that the Flemish simply asked a question "zijt gij des gildens vriend ? " (are you a friend of the guilds ?). Failure to answer correctly would have ended with a bashed skull.
What an absolutely amazing battle. The narration is out of this world! I sat there, full of suspense while eating and watching the battle unfold and reaching its crescendo, since I didn't know the outcome lol.
Fantastic video! While the actual battlefield has now been covered up with the expansion of the city of Kortrijk, there are still many reminders of the victory that was had that day. Several named streets, monuments, and locations are reminders of the Battle of the Golden Spurs. And every year on July 11th I read up about the battle and the overal history of Flanders, my home. :D
Mate, the suspense you managed to build in this.. And I've never had any kind of interest in Flanders for anything, ever. And you made their culture/history suddenly extremely interesting for me across this last half hour. Thank you so much. Not many things bring me more joy than the discovery of a reason to respect a culture that I had absolutely no interest in. I only bothered to watch anything about Flanders because it's one of your videos. Thanks again.
@@Raitar100 "On June 26, 1827, Joseph Henricus De Koninck, then husband to Elisabeth Cop, bought De Plaisante Hof. However, he died soon afterwards and his widow remarried Johannes Vervliet who bought back the goods from the inheritance in 1833. At that time Belgium was barely three years old (created in 1830). He turned the inn into a brewery which he named 'De Hand' (The Hand), after the aforementioned toll sign. By the time Johannes Vervliet died in 1845, the brewery's name was successful and its beer had become well-known. The name De Koninck appeared for the first time with Vervliet's stepson, Carolus De Koninck, who continued the business." (from wiki)
It's now official; HistoryMarche has truly overtaken Kings&Generals in animation quality, story-telling and overall detail. I would love if you guys made even more videos on battles in parts of the world or history that are not covered as much (the ones about Persia were really good). A collaboration with SandRhoman on the Far East would also be great. Keep up the good work!
Wonderful historical coverage episode about amazing Flaminsh resistance story. 1302 AD battle Golden spursn...shared by an amazing (History Marche ) channel .thanks for sharing
hey HistoryMarche! I was just wondering if you could do a video on the Battle of Changping during the Warring states period? It's an interesting battle because there are about 700,00+ casualties, with many buried alive:)
Fantastic video as always. It has to be noted that this struggle was part of a civil and revolutionary war in which craftmen obtained power. This was not at all a cultural nor national war.
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how much hours left so we can be come youtube member of this channel i wach at less 3 times each video !! love the content ! great great great channel!
As a Belgian, I've always enjoyed this story. Too bad this victory was followed by a massive defeat, though most history lessons stop after the victory :D
(Somewhat) true and yet the battle is the reason why there still is a Flanders and a Flemish/Dutch language & community so your comment is also irrelevant. It's like saying that Arminius won the battle of the Tuetoburger Wald and then had nothing but defeats at the hand of the Romans.
@@phild3936 Lol this battle is not the reason why there is still a Flemish community.... Read some history instead of the typical Flemish nationalist BS. This battle was all about economy/taxes and the early rise of the bourgeoisie/power of the guilds and the growing power of cities vs the king. Some years later there is even a more important battle going on in Flanders (battle of Westrozebeke in 1382) which was fought for the same reasons. The reason why there is still a Flemish community has more to do with the Burgundians and their legacy and the following inheritance of their feudal domain.
@@phild3936 I didn't mean it wasn't impressive and very important for our history. I'm just saying it's often the specific battle that is mentioned, rather than the following aftermath. Consider how in 1838, a few years after Belgium became an independent country, Hendrik Conscience wrote 'The Lion of Flanders', a book of great renown in which he brings the story back to life. The publication date was no coincidence, as it was meant to bolster our nation and have people feel like we shared this history to tie us together. The story concludes with the battle and doesn't continue on to show how it was an important battle in a bigger war that we eventually ended up losing. I don't believe any comment is irrelevant; sharing thoughts and opinions is how we grow after all.
The Battle at Pevelenberg/Mons-en-Pévèle can hardly be considered a "massive defeat", nor was it a decisive victory. The treaty of Athis-sur-Orge was what brought the ultimate victory to France and was primarily signed to avoid yet another battle.
Bruges city hall from that era is massive, size of modern sport centre. It appears town was rivalling Paris of that era in size and magnificence. BTW, they have nice beers made by old recipes too...
I'm amazed that Flanders territory was presented well. A lot channels display current day Flanders which is a bit of an issue. Love the correct presentation.
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will there be a part two?
"We"re such an attractive investment that there's a waitlist. That's why we're spending a ton of money on asvertisement so people can skip said waitlist."
How moronic does one have to be for such absolute nonsense to make sense? Bullshit!
The moniker golden spurs originated from the spurs taken to 500 dead nobles and given to the church of our lady, not from the riches taken after the battle.
@@robert-surcouf It's shocking they got that wrong, it's the whole fame of the event. Not to mention that the Schield en Vriend legend is about a stealthy series of nightly executions.
@@MrRandomSuperhero What is so ironic about those golden spurs is that after the battle of Courtrai, Flanders seemed close to become independant from france.
At Roosebeeke in 1382, Charles 6 who was only 14 ordered to take back the spurs and it seemed he will be a great king.
In hindsight, both things will be far from reality.
Please never change the guy narrating the videos
He's the best, isn't he? And he's been narrating all the videos this channel has been putting out since its beginning.
No, what are you talking about.
The first narrator was different and way better than the current one.
Its rly unfortunate.
@@frenzalrhomb6919 shows that people have no clue what they are talking about
@No he hasn’t. Sort their videos by oldest and you’ll hear for yourself.
David is far better at narration than Phillip - the latter constantly sounded like he was holding back a giggle, making it seem like he was telling a joke, rather than describing the events of and surrounding a medieval battle.
David is the main reason I subscribed to HM - his narration of the (second) battle of Lechfeld sounded far better than that of K&G and SandRhoman. Phillip sounded like a historian giving a lecture, David sounds like a professional narrator in a high quality documentary.
I like this Narrator so much, he talk slowly and with emphasize, so much that it can catch your listening with ease.
Fun fact: at the start, the "Goedendag" is mentioned. It means "good day" as when the opponent is struck in the neck or head, he nods as if greeting you.
Those "goedendags" didn't have spike on it... it was a wooden club with an iron spike on it
@@FrankVZ-q7s that's what I said, no?
@@FrankVZ-q7s Were you meaning to say something else? This doesn't read like a native speaker... "those 'goedendags' didn't have a spike on it... it had a spike on it." So it didn't have a spike on it, but it did? What did you mean?
That fact doesn't sound very fun :(
The word goedendag means hello, and also to nod the head as a greating. De goedendag was a wooden club with a iron spike on its end. When the soldier plunged that spike into the throat of his oponent, the head of the dying man would lower in the direction of the blow, as if he nodded 'goedendag' (good day).
As a kid they told us that a goedendag was a rod and a round metal ball with spikes attached with a chain to the rod. These weapons have existed but are not the goedendag refered to in this story
I’m from West Flanders and proud of my forefathers fighting to be free from the French dominance. It must have taken a whole lot of courage as a peasant or burgher to fight these highly trained French knights. Respect !
At the end we still defeated you by something magical called Artillery at Mons-en-Pévèle
A Peasent army usually lost in battle. In Denmark the peasent rebellions lost all but once. But this flemish army consisted of capable solsiders too.
Their cavalry getting decimated by infantry was a problem which the overconfident French would encounter on many occasions throughout their campaigns, for instance they suffered similar defeats by the English at Agincourt as well as the Ottomans at Nicopolis, where their usual haughty charge would result in a very disorderly frenzy. Nevertheless, this short-sighted resistance merely resulted in a worse outcome for Flanders just a couple years later, with more severe taxation on the Flemish population being implemented through a treaty between the count of Flanders and the king of France, the heaviest burden being carried by the peasants, carrying out another revolt. Thus, I do not believe this uproar in the harsh reality of a feudal society was beneficial.
@ indeed, the battle of Westrozebeke in 1382 was a tragic defeat for Flemish independence. One observes the nominally Flemish nobility switching allegiances as they see fit or befitting their own financial or landed interests. The “common” people in the long run not able to rid themselves of an oppressive nobility (what’s new ?) It would take more than 600 years to begin to have a semblance of democracy and a smidgen of a fairer society. The French cultural dominance persisted until the Second World War. Gent university taught in Flemish after many, many hard fought “battles” only in 1930.
How a battle in the Middle Ages had a lasting effect right up to not so long ago.
@@NapoleonAquila
Artillery wasn't considered magical whatsoever. Even the Romans had used it. Nor did artillery play a decisive role in the battle you name here. If anything played a major role, it were the hot summer conditions.
It wasn't even a (decisive) military victory. It was mostly a diplomatic and political victory due to the treaty of Athis-sur-Orge.
Also, you have to explain the "you" and the "we". You do realise neither of you were even born?
As a Flemish person, pretty cool to see a big history chanel talk about something so ingrained in my culture.
same here
Ja man
I know for a fact my ancestors fought in these battles, proud to be from Flanders!
Because Flanders rebelled, making the French debt to the Templars unpayable. The Templars were ordered to be arrested & their assets seized in 1307. The 193-year old order would be officially dissolved and absorbed into the Hospitalliers in 1312.
Yeah I'm sure that's the only reason they were prosecuted. Definitely not the alleged satanic rituals, desecration of holy images, debt slavery to the ruling families of Europe to control kings and countries (definitely not still going on). Headquarters just so happened to be in the ruins of the Temple of Soloman. Sure that's just a coincidence though.
I did not know that
That is not the likely reason, likely reason was that Philip IV didn't want a rival power in his domain so he had them dissolved.
@@enis7x Actually that was the biggest reason, Philip IV owned so much debt to the church and Templars. With the blessing fo the Church he attacked the Templars and tried to steal their riches.
Are you trying to tell me the Hospitalers were NOT in league with the devil?
Now I never
Yet another wonderful rendering of history. Thank you.
I can’t ever stop liking these videos
they actually didn't say "shield and friend" (or in old flemish: "schild en vriend") but they asked "des gilden vriend ?" or translated "are you a friend of the guilds ?". The french, not understanding the question got murdered.
It was because of the oral passing of the story and an how "des" is abbreviated to the word " 's " that we got the phrase " 's gilden vriend ?" mixed up with "schild en vriend" since the pronounciation of those two would have been the same
*edit*, the name of the weapon "goedendag" literally means "hello". Sarcasm wasn't unknown to the flemish :)
It's unconfirmed but that version always made more sence to me.
Groetjes 😁
Was looking for this - my aunt is tourguide in Bruges and has told me similar.
One thing that always strikes me about the story, there would have been a fair few English in the city also, just as hopeless at pronouncing dutch gutterals!
It doesn't mean "hello" it means "good day" obviously.
In Norway we say "god dag" meaning literally good day, being the equivalent of hello. Sounds and looks to me like the literal meaning of goedendag is the same.
@@flipflierefluiter5665 good day for who? Which end of the goedendag are we speaking of?😂
Thank you for making this video! Im from what is now Flanders but then Brabant and it's always nice to see History of our area brought to the wider audience as our history is very underrated! Maybe a cool video for in the future The Battle of Worringen. :) anyways much love to you
Likewise here, was about to type the same thing. Weird question: do you know the battle of Worringen from a comic book called De Rode Ridder? Or from somewhere else?
cheers
@@janvankessel624 No i had no idea super cool i love De Rode Ridder! i just learned of it my self :)
@@arozes8324 both battles are pretty well described with attention to the actual history in the comic books, it has it's fantasy, but it's based around the characters, not so the events. Love the series, have almost all of 'em, some really old ones.
@@janvankessel624 Love that really cool man!
In fact, the Battle of Courtrai (1302) is an exception, because most of the time the Flemish were crushed by the French. This was especially the case during the battles of Mons-en-Pévèle (1304), Cassel (1328) and Roosebeke (1382).
After Roosebeke, the French even recovered the golden spurs lost at Courtrai and put them on display in the Basilica of Saint-Denis near Paris.
about time someone picked up on this battle and the influence it had in the centuary that followed
Kudos to the team that works on this channel. I know we never really give you guys any credit but thank you. Because of you guys, I am now reading history.
So i basically on the battlefield, yet i never seen the "Guldensporenslag" in such detail! Thank you soo much!
Man, I can recall Baz Battles presenting this battle on their channel many years ago. It was one of their best videos. All things truly have come around. Amazing job HM.
Schild en Vriend! Very nice! Thanks a lot for this! Kind regards from Ghent, Belgium! :D
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@BesimtariBerat kk op makak
And from 't Brugse Vrije 😊💪
In fact, the Battle of Courtrai (1302) is an exception, because most of the time the Flemish were (literally) crushed by the French. This was especially the case during the battles of Mons-en-Pévèle (1304), Cassel (1328) and Roosebeke (1382).
After Roosebeke, the French even recovered the golden spurs lost at Courtrai and put them on display in the Basilica of Saint-Denis near Paris.
21:39 Pikemen in prepared positions? Soggy Terrain? Stream Crossing? Ditches?
Not hard enough. Let's _run into our own ranged units_ for additional issues.
Honestly shows us leaders at the time saw the french noble cavalry as the most elite units of their time, pretty much giving them the "invincible" title.
Add to it that they grocely underestimated the quality of the flemish equipment and their training.
Not to mention the one advisor giving a very solid idea of screening the knights with infantry would probably have made this fight very different if they listened to him at all.
@@Deathven1482 As I like to say: "French nobility - snatching defeat from the jaws of victory."
Yes, the French nobility had little respect for their cross bowmen just as they did at Agincourt!
@@bullettube9863 The crossbowmen were there at Crécy, not at Azincourt.
It was called battle of the golden spurs not for the wealth, but because of the many golden spurs collected from the slain French nobility. They were on exposition but the French reclaimed them in a later campaign. The ones on display nowadays are replicas.
Love Flanders. It's weird to go somewhere in Europe where us English are NOT the most hated.
Amazing as always! Bruges is such a beautiful city, nice to be reminded of it
Ke Brugge in men herte !
I have Bruges in my heart (:
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Well done! I'm from Kortrijk and the church that still exists today( Church of our Lady ) is a silent reminder of that period. now it is partially a musuem called 1302. If you are in the region you should give it a visit it's highly recommended. Some chronicles are mentioning the fall of Robert Artois while he was on the ground and slaughtered by the Flemish militia because the rule of giving quarter was only for nobleman to nobleman not giving by common footsoldiers . I guess he had bad luck .
In fact, the Battle of Courtrai (1302) is an exception, because most of the time the Flemish were crushed by the French. This was especially the case during the battles of Mons-en-Pévèle (1304), Cassel (1328) and Roosebeke (1382).
After Roosebeke, the French even recovered the golden spurs lost at Courtrai and put them on display in the Basilica of Saint-Denis near Paris.
@@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont Yes indeed, but these facts are whole other stories. The point here is that the French cavalry had been defeated for the first time in history by infantry in 1302. That caused a huge shock wave throughout Europe. For example the Pope at the time banned all church ceremonies in Flanders for one year, he was a Frenchman after all .
Robert made a duty for himself to follow the family's tradition by dying in battle like his father at Mansourah in 1250, his grandson at Vannes in 1342 (technically, he was just deadly injured and died at London) and his great great grandson at Nicopolis in 1396.
This is a very important battle for many reasons:
1) This led to the King of France imposing heavy taxation on the Jewish financiers and bankers in France, forcing some of them to accept debt forgiveness or face the stake. Several of them were indeed burnt alive.
2) The King of France also ordered the dissolution of the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon (the Templars) as they were owed a lot of money. Their leaders (and, at times, regular members) were heavily persecuted, tortured, despoiled and, again for hundreds, hung or burnt at the stake.
3) Part of reasoning behind the beginning of the Hundred Years War can be traced back to that singular battle. Robert of Artois died, opening the succession crisis in the County of Artois, which pitted Mahaut of Artois (daughter of the aforementioned Robert) and her 15 year old nephew, another Robert of Artois, the Crimson Baron. The Salic law had always stated that France was ruled by agnatic succession (meaning that women do not inherit as long as they have a male relative living). However, the county of Artois was ruled under "proximity of blood", meaning that Mahaut was within her rights, especially as her nephew had not reached majority.
This led to Robert spending most of his adult life intriguing and launching appeals (and even rebellions!) to get Artois back. One of those appeals was based on a ruling done on the County of Flanders. His last appeal involved perjury and he was sentenced in absentia by the King of France. After taking refuge among his relatives in Brabant and Namur, he fled to England where he became an advisor to the young King of England, urging him to take up arms against France, etc. He was even Earl of Richmond for a little while.
When the King of France confiscated the Duchy of Guyenne, he cited Edward's protection of Robert of Artois as one of the main reasons.
All because some Flemish peasant had killed his granddad while he was still a minor, 35 years prior.
He is *the* main character of a series of books called The Accursed Kings (Les Rois Maudits), written by Maurice Druon. George R. R. Martin credited it as the single biggest inspiration behind the writing of A Song of Ice and Fire.
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As a fleming, I must give compliments on the pronounciation of flemish towns and the weapons that the flemings used. Not perfect, but very good indeed!
Endearing 😉
Points for effort, realy difficult languague to pronounce proper
Better than the belgian king could do it.
Great video as always ! Your channel has inspired me to make historic videos of my own and i would like to thank you.
If I'm not mistaken, this battle also marked the beginning of the era in the Late Middle Ages known as the "Infantry Revolution".
The end of the Knights era
I am from Flanders, thank you for showing our story ❤️ Vlaanderen de leeuw! Schild en vriend!
Je ment ziud-brabant?
@@orlandodanielgonzalezalcar3360 southern Netherlands
At the moment i am still a Belgian. But my heart beats Flemish and mind is European.
>still
What did @@KoenDeKapoen mean by this?
@@orlandodanielgonzalezalcar3360I assume he is a supporter of splitting up Belgium in a Dutch speaking part (Flanders) and a French speaking part (Wallonia)
Excellent narrator. I was sitting on the edge of my chair, really intense piece of work. Bravo!
Love the animations as well. Great job! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I enjoy Hostory Marche more than watching the Super Bowl. Thank you so much for your quite extraordinary outstanding work. I love Epic History too, but YOU ARE THE BEST !!!
Wow, thank you!
This was the first cideo i see from you. it´s amzing, i never tought that I could imagine medieval battles to be like this, your narration is doing most of the job. really nice.
Thank you very much. Welcome to the channel.
I’m on a binge of historymarche because the narration is top notch ! Big up every time !
Im from Kortrijk and I’ve been watching your channel for years so it was a welcome surprise to me! ❤
Quality and quantity! Your videos are getting better by the day, even though they are already top notch!
Any chance we get a video on Litovschina? The 3 sieges of Moscow by Algirdas of Lithuania. Havent seen anyone do a video about it before.
Thanks for the suggestion. I can't make any promises but I'll look into it.
I have waited so long for this battle! My proud Flemish blood kicks in
This battle alongside several others such as Bannockburn, Crecy, Poitiers and others showed that the dominant days of heavy cavalry was over and that massed infantry in defensive formation, backed up by archers now ruled the battlefield.
If the defensive formation is on a hill or a muddy terrain following a rainy day, you're right but the heavy cavalry wasn't invincible, even before the 14th century.
@@robert-surcouf Not just those types of position, though as picking ground is a key requirement of any successful army. Said tactics could work on flat and open ground, with flanks secured by man made or natural obstacles.
True, but apart from battles during the crusades and Byzantine/seljuk fighting in the east, it was still a rarity for infantry to defeat cavalry before the 1300s.
I love how the videos and the storytelling get better and better each time.... .
Thanks for sharing flemish history, i often feel like its overlooked and i hope more flemish history will be talked about, greetings from flanders
it's an odd thing since the region is of pivotal importance to much of what happened in Western Europe due to its wealth and trade-connections
Love this channel. Such great content each and every time.
Ive been to Bruges. Loved it. Incredibly beautiful city.
As always, thank you for the content, and as always, for the algo. 👍
HistoryMarche & Epic History are the only two history channels I can watch!... Both having great narrators and epic descriptive visuals!... amazing work HistoryMarche!!
Glad you enjoy it!
Enjoy the video greatly, the narration and graphics were exceptional.
I love seeing the progress of the work you do. Lovely and appreciated.
Thank you so much!
Amazing work HistoryMarche!
Thank you so much 😀
i was wondering when a video on this topic would come out. Great job as always!!!
I really Love your long format and detailed videos. Very informative ❤❤❤
Thanks for covering flanders
And this is now the national holiday in Flanders
Vlaanderen de Leeuw! As a fleming i thank you for making a video on the battle that inspired our national holiday!
The way you explain the topic is very clear, I learned a lot of new things.
Your videos is ART! Thank you, very much!
Wow, thank you!
1:13 finding the enemy by his accent 😅😢
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The correct pronunciation of "Schild en Vriend" appears to be an urban legend. If true it would have worked, the French not being able to utter any Flemish words, let alone the particular "sch". However it is more likely that the Flemish simply asked a question "zijt gij des gildens vriend ? " (are you a friend of the guilds ?). Failure to answer correctly would have ended with a bashed skull.
Yes, but this is probably not historical. It was probably added later on in reference to a Biblical story.
Thank you for covering our local west-flemish history! I've always been fascinated on how Flemish peasants beat French knights!
Basically the French army was full of targets i.e. noblemen , whereas the Flemish army had a handful noblemen and guarded them with their best men .
What an absolutely amazing battle. The narration is out of this world! I sat there, full of suspense while eating and watching the battle unfold and reaching its crescendo, since I didn't know the outcome lol.
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Fantastic video. Many greetings from a Belgian Historian!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Pls someone should tell a movie director to use this guys voice for a movie
Amazing video as always HM!
Thanks again!
What a treat. You guys never cease to amaze.
Fantastic video! While the actual battlefield has now been covered up with the expansion of the city of Kortrijk, there are still many reminders of the victory that was had that day. Several named streets, monuments, and locations are reminders of the Battle of the Golden Spurs. And every year on July 11th I read up about the battle and the overal history of Flanders, my home. :D
Brilliant job as always. Always a treat when there''s a new video.
Glad you like them!
Another great episode, thanks mister.
Amazing video ❤
For anyone interested should try out Lines of Battle game as it offers combat in similar way to the videos on History Marche
That add transition was as legendary as this battle! Well done as always.
Mate, the suspense you managed to build in this..
And I've never had any kind of interest in Flanders for anything, ever. And you made their culture/history suddenly extremely interesting for me across this last half hour. Thank you so much.
Not many things bring me more joy than the discovery of a reason to respect a culture that I had absolutely no interest in. I only bothered to watch anything about Flanders because it's one of your videos.
Thanks again.
Thanks for the kind words. Truly appreciated!
Do come over and see the old cities like Bruges, Ghent and Courtrai for yourself. There is much to see of that period.
Greetings from Flanders!
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Really great stuff. Thanks!
Fresh HistoryMarche, piping hot!
I love an underdog. xD Great video. I love the ones where you're not sure whos going to win from the title. For the algorithm!
Glad you enjoyed!
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Pieter De Coninck? Is that who the beer is named after? ...love that beer
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No, it's just a relatively common flemish surname, like 'King' in English.
@@JanHouben Good to know. Thanks. Now I wonder who it was named after.
@@Raitar100 "On June 26, 1827, Joseph Henricus De Koninck, then husband to Elisabeth Cop, bought De Plaisante Hof. However, he died soon afterwards and his widow remarried Johannes Vervliet who bought back the goods from the inheritance in 1833. At that time Belgium was barely three years old (created in 1830). He turned the inn into a brewery which he named 'De Hand' (The Hand), after the aforementioned toll sign.
By the time Johannes Vervliet died in 1845, the brewery's name was successful and its beer had become well-known. The name De Koninck appeared for the first time with Vervliet's stepson, Carolus De Koninck, who continued the business." (from wiki)
I am flemish/ Belgian and when saying “goedendag” you say it like “good” not like “hooten” it also sounds more like the german word “gutendag”
Such an iconic battle!
It's now official; HistoryMarche has truly overtaken Kings&Generals in animation quality, story-telling and overall detail.
I would love if you guys made even more videos on battles in parts of the world or history that are not covered as much (the ones about Persia were really good). A collaboration with SandRhoman on the Far East would also be great. Keep up the good work!
Wonderful historical coverage episode about amazing Flaminsh resistance story. 1302 AD battle Golden spursn...shared by an amazing (History Marche ) channel .thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for making this video
My pleasure!
Fascinating battle
Thanks, and i second the notion that this narrator is awesome.
hey HistoryMarche! I was just wondering if you could do a video on the Battle of Changping during the Warring states period? It's an interesting battle because there are about 700,00+ casualties, with many buried alive:)
Fantastic video as always.
It has to be noted that this struggle was part of a civil and revolutionary war in which craftmen obtained power. This was not at all a cultural nor national war.
Great work History Marche
Many thanks!
That was tense.
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Just finished watching Resistance History: The Untold Story. This history documentary is absolutely captivating and truly brings to life the courage and determination of those who stood up against the odds. Highly recommend it to anyone who appreciates detailed, insightful narratives of resistance and bravery throughout history!
I fucking love you for making this. thank you!
how much hours left so we can be come youtube member of this channel i wach at less 3 times each video !!
love the content ! great great great channel!
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As a Belgian, I've always enjoyed this story. Too bad this victory was followed by a massive defeat, though most history lessons stop after the victory :D
(Somewhat) true and yet the battle is the reason why there still is a Flanders and a Flemish/Dutch language & community so your comment is also irrelevant. It's like saying that Arminius won the battle of the Tuetoburger Wald and then had nothing but defeats at the hand of the Romans.
@@phild3936 he means that in flanders history lesson moves on to another subject after the victory while they dont teach about what followed.
@@phild3936 Lol this battle is not the reason why there is still a Flemish community.... Read some history instead of the typical Flemish nationalist BS. This battle was all about economy/taxes and the early rise of the bourgeoisie/power of the guilds and the growing power of cities vs the king. Some years later there is even a more important battle going on in Flanders (battle of Westrozebeke in 1382) which was fought for the same reasons. The reason why there is still a Flemish community has more to do with the Burgundians and their legacy and the following inheritance of their feudal domain.
@@phild3936 I didn't mean it wasn't impressive and very important for our history. I'm just saying it's often the specific battle that is mentioned, rather than the following aftermath. Consider how in 1838, a few years after Belgium became an independent country, Hendrik Conscience wrote 'The Lion of Flanders', a book of great renown in which he brings the story back to life. The publication date was no coincidence, as it was meant to bolster our nation and have people feel like we shared this history to tie us together. The story concludes with the battle and doesn't continue on to show how it was an important battle in a bigger war that we eventually ended up losing.
I don't believe any comment is irrelevant; sharing thoughts and opinions is how we grow after all.
The Battle at Pevelenberg/Mons-en-Pévèle can hardly be considered a "massive defeat", nor was it a decisive victory.
The treaty of Athis-sur-Orge was what brought the ultimate victory to France and was primarily signed to avoid yet another battle.
I would love to play a grand strategy game that looks and plays like this
Great video as always friend.
Love your content
Bruges city hall from that era is massive, size of modern sport centre. It appears town was rivalling Paris of that era in size and magnificence. BTW, they have nice beers made by old recipes too...
I'm amazed that Flanders territory was presented well. A lot channels display current day Flanders which is a bit of an issue. Love the correct presentation.
always amazing
Wonderful as usual. 💚💚
It has been a long time since you made a video about Muslim battles, bro.
Really enjoy these.