COMANCHE vs TEXAS RANGERS: RIP Ford & the Battle of Antelope Hills
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- In early 1858, Captain John “RIP” Ford led a detachment of Texas Rangers, along with their Native American allies, on a punitive expedition deep in the heart of Comancheria. Their mission was to catch the Comanche unaware and prove they could strike them in their own backyard. What followed is known as the Battle or Campaign of Antelope Hills aka the Battle of Little Robe Creek. Also discussed in this episode: The Tonkawa and their Chief Placido, Comanche Chiefs Iron Jacket & Peta Nocona, and the astonishing raiding capabilities of the Comanche. #history #western #wildwest
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I'd sure love to know the story behind Iron Jacket obtaining that Spanish armor
I think he got it from his relatives if I remember correct, I like to think it was a scrap between his grandad and some mean old conquistador back in the day lol 😂
Me too...
I thought the same thing.
No kidding.
I always figured he procured it in a raid into Mexico. Maybe in a church or monastery
Wild West Extravaganza never disappoints
Thanks
Josh, sacrifice, ritual cannibalism, festival sacrifice/ cannibalism, as in they will kill you just to eat you, in native American tribes from aleaska to Chile is very dependent on time frame and which groups.
From the southwest USA to Chile, it was pretty common place.
Goodmornin from the shadows of the Superstition Mountains
Edit: great job with all these old photos.
Good morning
I like your channel mate, cheers from Fife in Scotland 🏴
Hello Scotland!
@@WildWestExtravaganza I'm Yeti mate, cheers 🥃
I love patrolling the back country and listening to these stories and the music. I appreciate what you do 🦫
Where you at?
That was great!! I drove Evie to school this morning and we tuned in on the patreon access and our jaws dropped open and we looked at one another and burst out laughing!!
If I may quote her directly, “that couldn’t have been better!” You made our day Josh. Many many thanks!! Sent the podcast around to friends & family as well with the hopes of some new subs
Sending you a few coffees as a token of our appreciation. Best wishes to you and yours amigo
-J
That is awesome! No need for the coffee, thanks for spreading the word
I really liked that one josh. I never knew about the hand to hand combat they must have had the single combat law like ancient Europeans. You know decided the battle on one on one combat. Keep it up brother.
Amazing work brother thank you.
My pleasure
Thanks for another great episode. Indian fighting and geography
Still knocking em out of the park Josh. Thanks for the inspiration man.
Thanks buddy
You did an exrta good job on this one. Very entertaining!
Thanks Garrett!
Another great episode, Josh, thank you.
Thanks Sandi
I like the slide show at the beginning, nice way to start the story.
Im trying
So glad you covered this story. I live just over the state line in Texas about 30 miles from this battle. I have been all over the area and have been telling this story of little robe creek to friends of mine. Hardly anybody i talk to have ever heard of this battle or about iron jacket. So many battles took place in this area. Many like this one seem to be fading away from memory. Glad that you are keeping history alive. Well done.
Thanks for listening!
I graduated from Texas Tech, there is a park there named after Randall Mackenzie, who fought Quanah Parker's dad and such, he also suffered heavily from PTSD, his life was tough, and sad; I am a descendant of Q. Parker, so seeing his face is always grand.
I, for one, are extrrrrremely elated that you’ve stuck with the rrrrrrroling R’s.
Josh, i still find the easter egg in the outro something to look forward to.
On the subject of individual combatants and ritual cannibalism, have You heard of Crow Heart Butte in Wyoming ?
I have! Supposedly that was Washakie
@@WildWestExtravaganza
Yes, the best part is when asked decades later if the story was true He reportedly said
" I was young and foolish. "
@@WildWestExtravaganza
I am a Wyoming resident native, born and raised within a few miles of Fort Caspar
in '52.... the wrong '52 unfortunately.
Looks like beautiful country
Lol Chief You can't kill-him.
I appreciate the knowledge drop, and its delivery!
Thanks! Appreciate you listening
Thank you Josh for putting more visuals in this episode. I get tired of looking at the same few pictures each episode.
Another one of those great ones from Beaver Trappin Josh. Question for you? Would you be interested in an interview for my Substack?
Sure, email me
I truly do enjoy your work. And your sense of humor makes it a great way to get into the show.
Thanks Frank
@@WildWestExtravaganza and please let us know if that girl kicked her dad in the nuts
@@frank.reilly5510 ha ha, he commented on this video! It's somewhere here in the comments.
I’ll be dog groomed if this ain’t the best content this side of the interface. Thanks for taking the time
Too kind!
Great job, Josh! Keep em’ comin!
More to come!
Very interesting video as always Josh. I was watching Comanche Moon the other day and I got to wondering if The Comanche Chief Buffalo Hump might make a good topic suggestion for you?
Absolutely. Especially his great raid.
Southeastern Louisiana upon right upon the Mississippi line on two sides, not a lot of law enforcement up here.
Glad you’re making a liven do this. I like your style and presentation. I’m also glad I didn’t hear a “F”bomb this go around.
You are too good for that! You have a presentation that doesn’t need the “F” word and your channel will grow faster without it!
All that said, I use that word every day several times a day. I ain’t no saint, just saying the language ain’t helping you feed your family. I really enjoy this genre because I really like the old west stories. I will continue to listen. I hope you do really well at this profession. Good Luck!
Dont stop being you brother! Im glad you decided to chase what your passionate about . Bc now we get to enjoy this fire content.
Thanks man
Great stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it
If you haven't read Empire of the Summer Moon, you should. Its great.
I have, great book
That is where that came from! When I EOD'd in the U.S. Border Patrol in 1969 PI's (Patrol Inspectors) called anyone crossing into the U.S. illegally from Mexico, "Tonks." Why? No clue, but at least now I know where that originated. Thanks...
Waa hoping for more on this subject
Josh your doing a great job I was wondering if you would do a show on Greer County Texas that is now part of Oklahoma
Great suggestion
Very interesting and good served, Josh! You read The Searchers by Alan LeMay? There is this battle including Tonkawa fighters and horse killing narrated but years later. In the movie with the Duke it was cut from the script. Best regards from Northern Germany Ludwig.
Thanks! I have not read it yet but I need to
I heard that he was called 'Big Rip' because he was known for farting around the campsite.
Several people you mentioned later became better known for there involvement in the war of northern aggression sometimes call the "civil" war..... Sul Ross, R.I.P. Ford...
Ford was a commander in the very last battle, I think
Don't forget Agustus McCrae and Woodrow Call.
@@jakeroberts7435 here's to the sunny slopes of long ago
@@WildWestExtravaganza on Commanche moon Buffaloe Hump stuck Gus with his spear. Buffaloe Hump was one bad dude. 🐴
@@WildWestExtravaganza the last battle of the civil war was the battle of Palmito ranch Texas the south won that battle ( some say the last battle was in Georgia) the college in Alpine Texas is named after Sol Ross.
I suspect you might have the same affliction.
I sometimes fantasize about going back in time and being an observer of bygone military engagements. While my mind wonders to mostly pre-gun powder ancient battles, I cannot deny the allure of closer to home engagements. What a sight it must have been to see the natives engage in single combat on the open plains of Texas. Indeed.
Got my support!
The Tonkowa chief who fought with Rip ford in this expedition was later killed by the Comanche during the civil war.
O shit josh rip now we hit a bad ass him and Jeff a lil crazy but swinging some brass.
Proud to be Comanche! 🐎🏹
I have become curious about the 'Eastern' Indians that went or followed the Whites like the Delaware and others I keep seeing pop-up with Calvary units trappers even some settlers am I over blowing this? Maybe something to look into?
Yeah, I should do an episode on them.
I always wanted to hear Kenny Powers narrate a documentary on the history of Texas red necks!
Haha
I'm very curious whether you're going to do an episode or even a mention of the Dillard Brothers. 2 preteen boys who whooped 30 comanches. The only one firing was 11 and yet he defeated 30 comanches. Everyone loves and respects the comanches....just not those two boys
Don't think im familiar with them
@@WildWestExtravaganza th-cam.com/video/hCMQ_ZqbpPs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8yBvhvPuMNjtxuZf
Nor do I please do tell
@@captainsparrow5615 the link is above to that story
@@Daylon91 tough kids
You still da man Josh….Yeeeee-Hawwwww!👍
Gracias
Ford was hard as nails.
You ROCK Josh! I’m gonna hit you with an email. I’ve got some interesting things to share with you I think you’ll dig. Hint: they are generally found on or in the ground:) Thanks for the great stories!!
Email away, good sir
Rest In Peace Mr Ford
RIP
Wow It makes me wonder how many natives were killed just for being suspected of being hostile.
Their whole culture agreed with killing innocents so be quiet.
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That is a good picture ....
Thacker needs it
Thacker?
Cream and sugar all day for me.
Jack Hayes
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You know you are my favorite. 💩✌
tried to email you but some sort of drama with the site, can you set up a paypal link on your buy me a coffee please.
What sort of drama?
page would not load' came up with site error?
I like mine with alot of sugar and just a splash of whole milk. I've been insulted by people who drink seltzers. Kinda pot and kettle situation if you ask me.
The Skidee Pawnee were also cannibals. Check them out.
Is this a re run?
No
@WildWestExtravaganza oh ok. Always good to have Comanche info
@@lusolad hopefully more in the future
I'm glad I'm not the only one with a case of vaginaitis!!! Keep up the good work, enjoyed your production as usual
Feel better!
The word comanche litteraly means enemy for life
Only treaty never broken was between the Germans and the comanche. Von Mäuseburg signed it. Maybe the comanche thought a man with this Name is trustworthy ( in english Mousecastle ). I am German and have to laugh out loud whenever i read it. This treaty is Active until today.
Well Josh the other day I was listening to a True Crime Channel and I saw where they actually killed this girl after they took some pictures of her in the cage. She was sleeping in the doorway of a trailer and the guy whose trailer it was (her ex-husband) called up his partner in crime and the other guy came over and her baby daddy I hate saying that held her feet while the other guy choked her to death then the other guy took her to his house where he did put her in a cage and he uploaded four pictures of her in the cage half dressed. I guess he wanted to show the picture to his customers so they would know who they were eating, you know cuz she was pretty. Somebody sent these pictures to somebody else who took them to the law and the law came out and of course the guy had his freezer full of human meat. Both the man got arrested and they haven't been to court yet but the fact that this man actually has a website on the dark web of course but he has a website where he actually sells human meat. I'm sorry I just had to say that after hearing you mention cannibalism😊😊
Lunch money.
Thanks im starving
The vast majority of Comanches died due to smallpox. That historical context of clinical epidemiology is often ignored in regards to military campaigns against Comanches by whites who want to glorify the Texas Rangers. A modern analogy is the vast majority of films about the Vietnam War that ignore Agent Orange.
Sure, you would think that a documentary on the Comanche people would include information on the way various diseases wrecked havoc on them. But this wasn't that...all this is was a short look at one specific battle, not a detailed history of the Comanche people.
Cannibalism, for any reason, is enough to excuse genocide in my book, and in the Bible as well. God commanded genocide on the Canaanite’s for infanticide and a slough of other reprehensible acts. That said, I reserve the right to my opinion.
I'm sorry you feel that way
Alfalfa Bill letting out the jailed of the best and met them at the bridge. Rangers tucked their tails between their legs and rode the hair of their horses south of the Red River. Texazz thought they wanted the river for themselves. Do that history story.
Ok but can you please explain again in an intelligible manner so I know just what it is that you're requesting?
Okie Gov said it is not your river. Rangers knew most of those outlaws riding with the Gov and that was it. Red is still the Oklahoma river.@@WildWestExtravaganza
@@CCinthesaddle Oh. Them was different Rangers than the ones in the 1850's. Alfalfa Bill - who was from Texas, by the way...must be where he got his gumption - wasn't yet a twinkle in his daddy's eyes.
Don't know about twinkling the daddy's eyes. He was smart enough to get the hell outta texazz and fight back for is right.@@WildWestExtravaganza
@@CCinthesaddle Well, he was a politician. Ya'll are more than welcome to our current crop as well.
Revolving Mormons what
Another incomplete episode lacking a great deal sounds much like regurgitation of other folks investigation of quick synopsis was stolen photographs not procured by the great Josh in person of these cheer graphic locations show a more complete picture of the story lifeless unfeeling spearing of convoluted facts some relevant some not
Brother, try a little puncuation.
@@WildWestExtravaganza Let me think. Why do I subscribe and look forward to your postings? Is it strictly the footnoted dry bones recitation of historical facts? Or is it your thoroughly entertaining schtick that's just fucking fun to listen to with as up to date shit as you can find?
🤔 Hmm?
Why is it that You keep coming back to this channel ? Do You find joy in being butt-hurt by the content or just like pissing on Joshs' boots ? I, for one, wouldn't mind if You could just dry up and blow away.
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 ha, thanks. Can't please everyone
@@WildWestExtravaganzaIndeed. Convoluted doesn’t even begin to describe THAT “paragraph’s” construction! I can’t wait to read this guy’s volumes of work. Probably got through it with CHEER grit and determidatedness! 🥴 Grade school educations are overrated. 🤡🤠🙄. Great stuff as always Josh. 🫡👍🏼
Sorry sauce not going to do it not yet$$$$$$ nope not supporting incomplete work
Oh no! But what will I do???
@@WildWestExtravaganza
My guess is that thehorsequeen would be butt-hurt by anything less than an hours long dissertation backed by months of research, the other possiblity is that she finds great joy pissing on Your boots.
@@WildWestExtravaganza😂😂😂😂😂you have some interesting folks on the comment threads here. Some angry pedantic wooden literalist action going on here. Most likely the autistic and incel crowd 😂😂😂😂😂.
14:34 Fitting an arrow to the bow is called "nocking" My dad was Robin Hood, ok
When the Comanche finally run me down: gather up the peices I've lost along The Way as best you can, put whatever remains of me that you discover in a suitable receptical,
and burn it.
Burn it all.
Good luck to you btw.
Edit: and dump my ashes on Custer's boot.