😱 Chris, as the owner of a small collection of these old-school Rolls_Royce and Bentley cars. This vehicle is too far gone, it is now only suitable for a donor - car for parts !. My advice to you . 🏃 run away now, and keep running 🏃.............................
I own a Bentley T1 1970. I saw the car advertised in a classic car publication. It was advertised for £5,500. It had an existing M.O.T. I accepted it on face value. I inspected the car it looked okay. I decided to re- upholster the seats and door cards £10,400. The M.O.T. was due, at the time it was 39 years old so required the test. 😮 The car was badly deteriorated new floor pan, inner & outer scills, wheel arches, jacking points £5,500. Bare metal respray £5,000, complete rebuild braking system £7,500. Replaced suspension spheres £3,600. Stainless exhaust £1,200. It goes on and on. At the moment it is being rewired ?? don't know yet how much. Upgraded lights £600. Electronic ignition supply & fit £820. L.P.G. conversion £1,400. These cars are a joy to drive but an absolute money pit.
I second this comment, I brought a £9k SY. Spent £6k on it. Sold it for £2k. Too far gone I was far too optimistic and it cost me dearly. Now saved up for the right car with better knowledge and better budget.
Totally agree, I've owned a wraith 11 with electric division and a Spirit, this one is too far gone unfortunately and only suitable as a parts car at around £1000 ....IMHO
The dash hasn't been modified, the leather dries and shrinks from the sun, and it's pulled the wooden framework around the vents apart. This is common, but you'll either need another dash top, or to recover that with new leather. The tab on the window frame is to guide the glass into the channel as it rises, wind pressure can tilt it outwards while moving. The woodwork looks like the veneer is still there and fairly flat, what's come off is the lacquer, it'll make it easier to strip and re-lacquer - if the veneer itself is peeling that's a far more expensive repair. The low rear suspension is because there's no pressure in the hydraulic rams that level it, should rise up once the engine is running. Unless you do a lot of the work yourself, this is going to cost more than it'll be worth.
There are two things to remember when buying a Rolls-Royce. Firstly there is nothing more expensive than a cheap Rolls-Royce & “If you can’t afford a good one, you really can’t afford a bad one!” Now I know you can but it’s worth remembering. I’ve had two Rolls-Royces and they are lovely and reliable but they started as good cars when I bought them. Good luck.
I owned Rolls-Royces and Bentleys for years. That being said, i think you have a good idea. I would pay more and get one that is in better shape for more money. There is noting more expensive than a cheap rolls royce. From what I see on this car, it could be free and its still going to cost more than buying a better car.
These early 80s Rolls-Royce Silver Spirits do look very antiquated and aren't the best examples unless absolutely mint. Dodgy colours and dated unloved interiors didn't help much. The facelifted models from the early to mid 90s are a much better prospect in terms of build quality and general condition and in the right colour they can look fantastic even today.
I worked at a RR dealership when these were new. One massive issue was wind noise round the door frames and alot were recalled and modified wasnt a five min job, Used to suffer horrendous hydraulic leaks and 5 years later were showing signs of road mice
Chris, you are a very nice guy with a very good channel. Please take this straight shooter advice from a 78 year old South African. Run as fast as you can from that old POS Rolls, which is going to bankrupt you.
My friend owns a quite nice looking Bentley Turbo R which has some similarities to this Royce. He decided to put it in to be tidied but when they dug into it they found rot almost everywhere. He kind of became committed to sorting it out but over a year later the spend is already at £20k. Both screens had to be removed and new metal let in. It needed new front wings and cutting in new rear wind sections. Both front/back valances were rotten along with much in the wheel arches. The sills were rotten, the interior removed to facilitate repairs and so it goes on. My advice is DO NOT try to recover this car, it's really not worth it, plus it's not that desirable and in my opinion it's a crap colour. £5,000 isn't cheap, they should give it you you.
New subscriber here. A Jag and Land Rover products fan primarily and then Rolls Royce, Bentley and such like follower, your channel has spraked an interest. If you can get that Rolls for £4k or beterr still less and doing the work yourself you should ALL being well and subject to getting going and seeing under the car be on the right side of an inclusive £10k budget. That was lacquer coming off the dash. It wil be tricky to do right unless you take the dash out. The brakes and suspension could be expensive to sort out? I don't really know enough about them. As for trips to Europe, not that bothered myself. However, doing up and saving a Rolls Royce, YES! Especially watching someone with limited mechanical experience because it helps grow your channel and creates interest in the brand of Rolls Royce. Plenty of videos on other makes, not many true ones where a young chap takes on a Rolls Royce!
Silver Shadow and Spirit series cars did NOT have a Citröen air suspension. Conventional coil springs and dampers were used, and there was hydraulic levelling to maintain ride height, connected to the rear.
Hahaaaa I’ve just realised where you are! Our yard is just up the road from you there I drive past every day of you need any tree work doing we are up the road based on a farm… also if it’s a profit you’re after with this car then no but if it’s a bit of fun and a project then why not you’ll get your money back in parts… I’ve just started on an e39 that’s been in a bush the past 17 years and loving all that goes with it rats nests and all and time spent with my son working on it is priceless
i bet spending the time with your son is priceless, my kids are too young currently, but that would be a brilliant excuse to buy the car! I may need some tree… or hedge work doing. Message me on Instagram! @chris.edworthy Thanks for watching
Chris. Hi. You can still make really excellent content from a very good RR Silver Spirit which are selling at most Classic Car Auctions for reasonable money. There's always stuff to do on them. Your heart ❤️ may want to save the unwell one's but save yourself a lot of pain. For example, Bonhams Auctions UK recently sold a beautiful 1986 Silver Spirit for less than 5K in outstanding condition compared to the one here. It even had a private plate that went with it. That includes buyers premium too. Thanks for the content and all the best to you.
Absolute money pit. I visited a RR restorers in Essex a few weeks ago, an had a tour around their body shop. I asked one of the guys how much a respray cost, and he told me everying would be stripped out and the body taken back to bare metal. That would cost about £30k. There`s a reason you can pick thses old tanks up for a few grand, and that is that they rot like pears and cost a fortune to keep tin worm at bay.
Chris,I’d go along what the majority of the comments are saying 10,000 wouldn’t go far,and I used to be an Automotive Refinisher and mainly Shadow 2 and 2’s etc,and they were big cars,and when finished they did look 👀 a treat✅ But for you to get involved in this car,it’s to far gone sadly Would be interesting to see it up on a hoist 😂 Cheers Frank
Although it's a bit past it's prime it's a great project to get to know the car and what you can do on them. 1 owner from new is a good start... take it on, you only live once!
Clearly there are deterioration issues but think also about wiring looms, relays, engine sensors etc etc and although there may not be as much electronic content as on newer models, entire electrics will need replacing sooner or later.
I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. It is way too ropey. It isn't the rust you can see, it is the rust you can't see. Unloved. But. It is your channel. And if you want content ideas, don't mind hemorrhaging money, then go ahead. I would like to see you meeting with other Rolls owners and see their cars.
Hi Chris, my advice is leave it. You know the territory you are in with RR resprays, and that is just for starters. You are looking at a total money pit, which really makes little sense when you have such a large number of Silver Spirits currently on the market and at reasonable money for a nice one. Odd thing about this one is the wheels, they appear pressed steel and by 1986 RR cars where fitted with alloys? Also, the first version of the Spirit was certainly not the best with suspension issues etc. The series 2 and 3 were much better, and the final version had wrap around coded bumpers, centre console, modern door mirrors and was basically a modern car. Some people feel that this model was the last real Rolls Royce.
The fact the car has not been used much for a few months and left outside for 30 years it certainly has signs of rot. The rear window seals etc all needs replacing the metal may be beyond repair. The body paint could be circa 10k to fix. The rear arches and sills will cost probably £6k to fix. The interior wood refinish would be £2k, the mechanicals for the hydraulic systems and brakes budget £4k , Suspension springs if needed and replacing £3k, Full service and fluids assuming mechanically its "ok" budget £2-3k so that the hoses etc can be done including fuel and brake lines - so quite a lot. - Top money for a fully original or restored car in prime condition is circa 35 -40k so there is room but not much. If the channel can fund it then it would be interesting but it will take a lot of time to get done. Even at £5k it's expensive really at the condition it is in as a starting point. Conservative fixing costs would be circa £20k assuming that there is nothing sinister underneath. Perhaps get a specialist near you to do an assessment. - Its better to buy a better condition car perhaps - still good content
Thanks that’s really helpful. The channel is nowhere near paying that sort of money… maybe £100 if I’m lucky. So it would be a labour of love…. Another one!!
Buy it... would make great content... lots of us watch all the RR refurb videos from all over the world! I would like to see you take out all the wood and re veneer it... lots of people would like that video... and debate how best to do it... then do the Citroen sphere replacement that most likely need doing, take the seats out and do them etc etc... the car will start, those engines are bullet proof! People watch these channels to see a car refurb... so if you do it... people will watch.... that is the point of this you tube thing!
Hi Chris, I so want to advise you to purchase the car and make a series showing the restoration of the car, and having a glorious finale driving off into the sunset. However,…..i think there are more experienced contributors on here who are advising against this car, and on balance I think they are correct. It’s a RR , and it obviously has that presence about it, but I think that every time you got an invoice for work done on it, you would be questioning your decision. I think it’s probably a good idea to pass on this example, and check out an alternative. Jeez,…..I hope I’m right…. Good video Chris Cheers John
It's heartbreaking to see a neglected classic car, but even more so if it's an 80s Rolls-Royce still with the first owner. The left doors look like they've had a bad spray job, the shade is completely different. I'm surprized there's so much sun damage given that the car's in the UK, where it's primarily overcast and raining. 😉 Walk away, if you want a Silver Spirit find one that's been loved, this owner just didn't care, and that's a dangerous proposition.
I thought these looked terrible compared to the silver shadow that preceded it. Just a big shapeless box to me. That one looks a full on restoration job as the rust will be deeper than you think.
Chris , if you are a master mechanic or you need it for spares maybe it's worth 5K , otherwise DON'T buy it.IF it is given for free then possibly it's worth restoration . MUCH better to spend your money getting the Phantom into a perfect state . It's only worth buying the Spirit if TH-cam views pay you extremely well
A wise old man once said: “if you can’t Afford a New Rolls Royce with full factory warranty, then You Can’t Afford the repairs & maintenance on a Used Rolls Royce.
I think it could more accurately be described as 'neglected' by the same family for 30 years. There's very little you could manage yourself and achieve the required standard
Run away and fast! Yes it's always good to have some variety on channels like yours but your current RR and RR are still producing interesting videos and I'm sure for little money there are more viable cars out there.
Chris that cars really a breaker look on morris Leslie auctions you can pick up a minter for no money where you have no experience body work I honestly think it would cost fortune to get it half presentable
I agree, it would be a fortune to get half presentable. Trouble is it needs to look perfect when it is done, they don't look good a bit tatty in the way a Land Rover or 2cv does.
Aesthetically speaking what a beautiful shaped roller. Dare I say I personally would rather it over the Phantom. Please buy it and slowly do it up yourself. Not an awful lot of money to buy and roadworthy. Sometimes you just have to ignore your head and go with your heart ♥️
@ChrisEdworthy Absolutely agree with you. I've owned a 1965 Silver Cloud III, as second owner, for 42 years. It's been kept properly maintained and is my daily driver. The good thing is that it isn't full of fancy electronics, so any good mechanic can look after it.
If you sell it i think ben from tasty classics is the guy that would buy it of you on youtube he restores cars that have been lying in garages for 30 years and gets them running❤
Great idea re an old SY or SZ. That particular SZ spirit is absolutely ROOTED it’s a parts car it will cost a fortune to bring it all back there are better ones. Dash has pealed back that leather has shrunk. Engine overheated , rusted to hell….. it just went from bad to worse..Roadworthy or not nothing on that spirit will be cheap to redo. My advice is RUN dont do it to yourself on that cluncker.
I know it’s a shame. But at one point it was the gents everyday car. So being outside wouldn’t have mattered too much. But lack of use in more recent years has affected it. Thanks for watching.
I own a 1980 shadow 2 in willow gold everflex roof 59000 miles i have owned it for 10 years i am going to sell it as the garage i rent is being demolished for building houses on.
Had a new engine, but no paperwork for it? That car will be an absolute insatiable money pit ... do yourself a favour and please don't. Stick with the one you came in.
Unless you can do all the work yourself, just walk away. It would obviously be great for the channel but if your looking at a total respray after sorting the rust issues, it will cost you thousands just to get that done to a standard that will justify being a Rolls Royce. I would look for a vehicle in better condition and unfortunately price increase will reflect this. This car is cheap and you can see why.
Not worth it. Too much work. A friend of mine has just bought a 1993 Spirit from a dealer for £23k. It's mint, but way over priced. AS others have said, not a sort after model.
True, it’s a bit boxy and not quite old enough yet to be a collectible classic. The shadow is picking up in value for the better examples. I think the Spirit is now the bottom of the Rolls market now. 10 years that might be my Phantom! Lol
I think the Bentley is a better looking car. The round headlights make all the difference. Having said that, there are some real bargains out there in the 6-7k mark. You just have to know what your looking at.
I've got a 1986 Bentley Turbo R. Rolls Royce and Bentleys do not like being stored outside. Luckily, mine just fits in my garage. I make TH-cam videos with it on my channel and it's been featured by JJ On Cars
Another rr would b good but that is not it, that car would never look good, id go for a dark colour one with a cream or light colour interior with piped seats, should consider looking in Ireland also, there are some for sale here,,
Don't buy this car! It seems it has not been looked after, the fact the owner did not stop when it overheated speaks volumes. Lots and lots of what looks like small jobs but I suspect very expensive ones. Walk away
Whilst it would make interesting content to go through with the restoration journey, it looks to be a lot of blood, sweat and tears and might cost a fortune to get that back to it’s former glory.
If the content is good it doesn't matter whether you travel or restore. Road worthy or Edworthy? You decide. Comparison videos might be best return on whizz for your wonga. 'Look at what you could have won' *nod to Jim Bowen* In fact rename the channel....... Edworthy's Special Prize. Thank me later.
Those models are absolutely rubbish..worth peanuts ive seen them for as low as 2 grand..they will never be worth anything..early shadows are almost as bad..😂😂
that car is not very nice,has not been looked after,i would like you to buy a bentley continental,remember they have been making these for a long time now,be nice to show the pitfalls in buying one of those £10,000 models that look cheap but can be hiding,or can you get lucky and only needs a few little things doing.
@@ChrisEdworthy of course they do the four door of those as well,just thought it would show that buying a cheap one of these cars might seem like a great deal but can lead to costing a fortune.
Can you help me get my son a decent little car he is my carer i am 68 year old on state pension i would love to buy him a car but cant afford to he travels a long way to come to me by buses he is a fantastic son and well deserves transport if anyone reading this can help please comment❤
😱 Chris, as the owner of a small collection of these old-school Rolls_Royce and Bentley cars. This vehicle is too far gone, it is now only suitable for a donor - car for parts !. My advice to you . 🏃 run away now, and keep running 🏃.............................
🤣 Thanks for the advice.
I own a Bentley T1 1970. I saw the car advertised in a classic car publication. It was advertised for £5,500. It had an existing M.O.T. I accepted it on face value. I inspected the car it looked okay. I decided to re- upholster the seats and door cards £10,400. The M.O.T. was due, at the time it was 39 years old so required the test. 😮 The car was badly deteriorated new floor pan, inner & outer scills, wheel arches, jacking points £5,500. Bare metal respray £5,000, complete rebuild braking system £7,500. Replaced suspension spheres £3,600. Stainless exhaust £1,200. It goes on and on. At the moment it is being rewired ?? don't know yet how much. Upgraded lights £600. Electronic ignition supply & fit £820. L.P.G. conversion £1,400. These cars are a joy to drive but an absolute money pit.
In the US this Rolls would be designated a “white-trash pickup truck”. They’re everyday Work Horses. Nothing wrong with that👍
I second this comment, I brought a £9k SY. Spent £6k on it. Sold it for £2k. Too far gone I was far too optimistic and it cost me dearly. Now saved up for the right car with better knowledge and better budget.
Totally agree, I've owned a wraith 11 with electric division and a Spirit, this one is too far gone unfortunately and only suitable as a parts car at around £1000 ....IMHO
The dash hasn't been modified, the leather dries and shrinks from the sun, and it's pulled the wooden framework around the vents apart. This is common, but you'll either need another dash top, or to recover that with new leather. The tab on the window frame is to guide the glass into the channel as it rises, wind pressure can tilt it outwards while moving.
The woodwork looks like the veneer is still there and fairly flat, what's come off is the lacquer, it'll make it easier to strip and re-lacquer - if the veneer itself is peeling that's a far more expensive repair. The low rear suspension is because there's no pressure in the hydraulic rams that level it, should rise up once the engine is running.
Unless you do a lot of the work yourself, this is going to cost more than it'll be worth.
Thanks for your insights. Very interesting.
There are two things to remember when buying a Rolls-Royce. Firstly there is nothing more expensive than a cheap Rolls-Royce & “If you can’t afford a good one, you really can’t afford a bad one!” Now I know you can but it’s worth remembering. I’ve had two Rolls-Royces and they are lovely and reliable but they started as good cars when I bought them. Good luck.
This is very true. Much cheaper to buy a good one, that's for sure. Thanks for watching.
I owned Rolls-Royces and Bentleys for years. That being said, i think you have a good idea. I would pay more and get one that is in better shape for more money. There is noting more expensive than a cheap rolls royce. From what I see on this car, it could be free and its still going to cost more than buying a better car.
That's the trouble... what is it worth? The spares might mean it's worth more in bits than as it is... that's a shame.
These early 80s Rolls-Royce Silver Spirits do look very antiquated and aren't the best examples unless absolutely mint. Dodgy colours and dated unloved interiors didn't help much. The facelifted models from the early to mid 90s are a much better prospect in terms of build quality and general condition and in the right colour they can look fantastic even today.
I would live a Spirit 3. Navy over Ivory, that would be my choice. Thanks for watching.
@ChrisEdworthy
That's the perfect choice, especially with the rear walnut veneer tables adds a touch of class to the rear compartment.
I worked at a RR dealership when these were new. One massive issue was wind noise round the door frames and alot were recalled and modified wasnt a five min job, Used to suffer horrendous hydraulic leaks and 5 years later were showing signs of road mice
Oh so not the best model to buy, even if it was in good condition.
Chris, you are a very nice guy with a very good channel.
Please take this straight shooter advice from a 78 year old South African.
Run as fast as you can from that old POS Rolls, which is going to bankrupt you.
😂👍🤣 Thanks David. Great comment.
My friend owns a quite nice looking Bentley Turbo R which has some similarities to this Royce. He decided to put it in to be tidied but when they dug into it they found rot almost everywhere. He kind of became committed to sorting it out but over a year later the spend is already at £20k. Both screens had to be removed and new metal let in. It needed new front wings and cutting in new rear wind sections. Both front/back valances were rotten along with much in the wheel arches. The sills were rotten, the interior removed to facilitate repairs and so it goes on. My advice is DO NOT try to recover this car, it's really not worth it, plus it's not that desirable and in my opinion it's a crap colour. £5,000 isn't cheap, they should give it you you.
Thanks for the advice. That’s the trouble with old cars, they can be a can of worms. This Rolls is seeming it might be just that.
New subscriber here. A Jag and Land Rover products fan primarily and then Rolls Royce, Bentley and such like follower, your channel has spraked an interest. If you can get that Rolls for £4k or beterr still less and doing the work yourself you should ALL being well and subject to getting going and seeing under the car be on the right side of an inclusive £10k budget.
That was lacquer coming off the dash. It wil be tricky to do right unless you take the dash out. The brakes and suspension could be expensive to sort out? I don't really know enough about them. As for trips to Europe, not that bothered myself. However, doing up and saving a Rolls Royce, YES! Especially watching someone with limited mechanical experience because it helps grow your channel and creates interest in the brand of Rolls Royce. Plenty of videos on other makes, not many true ones where a young chap takes on a Rolls Royce!
Thanks for subscribing, much appreciated. Great comments, I’ll take them on board.
Yes, definitely get an older rolls royce for the channel but *not* that one...
Thanks for the feedback and for watching.
Silver Shadow and Spirit series cars did NOT have a Citröen air suspension. Conventional coil springs and dampers were used, and there was hydraulic levelling to maintain ride height, connected to the rear.
Oh I thought they did, maybe it was the 60's cars? Thanks for watching.
@@ChrisEdworthy the Shadows, introduced in 1965, utilised certain components made under licence from André Citröen SA.
Hahaaaa I’ve just realised where you are! Our yard is just up the road from you there I drive past every day of you need any tree work doing we are up the road based on a farm… also if it’s a profit you’re after with this car then no but if it’s a bit of fun and a project then why not you’ll get your money back in parts… I’ve just started on an e39 that’s been in a bush the past 17 years and loving all that goes with it rats nests and all and time spent with my son working on it is priceless
i bet spending the time with your son is priceless, my kids are too young currently, but that would be a brilliant excuse to buy the car!
I may need some tree… or hedge work doing. Message me on Instagram! @chris.edworthy
Thanks for watching
It is varnish peeling off the wood, veneer is a thin slice of expensive wood laid over cheaper wood.
That probably doesn’t help its quality after 40 years!
Chris. Hi. You can still make really excellent content from a very good RR Silver Spirit which are selling at most Classic Car Auctions for reasonable money. There's always stuff to do on them. Your heart ❤️ may want to save the unwell one's but save yourself a lot of pain. For example, Bonhams Auctions UK recently sold a beautiful 1986 Silver Spirit for less than 5K in outstanding condition compared to the one here. It even had a private plate that went with it. That includes buyers premium too. Thanks for the content and all the best to you.
That's a great idea. I'll start having a look at auction.
An old RR is a good idea but that one is a rotter.
Thanks Andrew. Much appreciated.
Absolute money pit. I visited a RR restorers in Essex a few weeks ago, an had a tour around their body shop. I asked one of the guys how much a respray cost, and he told me everying would be stripped out and the body taken back to bare metal. That would cost about £30k. There`s a reason you can pick thses old tanks up for a few grand, and that is that they rot like pears and cost a fortune to keep tin worm at bay.
Yes is the problem as they get older... not worth my buy fortunes to maintain. Thanks for watching.
Chris,I’d go along what the majority of the comments are saying
10,000 wouldn’t go far,and I used to be an Automotive Refinisher and mainly Shadow 2 and 2’s etc,and they were big cars,and when finished they did look 👀 a treat✅
But for you to get involved in this car,it’s to far gone sadly
Would be interesting to see it up on a hoist 😂
Cheers
Frank
Thanks, Frank. Yes, I'd be interested to see the underneath. Hopefully, it wouldn't be too bad... but who knows? Thanks for watching.
High Chris. The VENEER is the WOOD. The LACQUERE is what is peeling off
I know, such a shame! Thanks for watching.
Yes, more Rolls Royce content, please!
Thanks for the feedback.
Although it's a bit past it's prime it's a great project to get to know the car and what you can do on them. 1 owner from new is a good start... take it on, you only live once!
This is very true. It’s more than 1 owner, 2 or 3 from memory, but this gent has had it for the last 30 years.
Clearly there are deterioration issues but think also about wiring looms, relays, engine sensors etc etc and although there may not be as much electronic content as on newer models, entire electrics will need replacing sooner or later.
That’s very true. Kept outside has mean all of that could be an issue. Thanks for watching and commenting. All much appreciated.
09:37 “ What do you think guys … “ I immediately exclaimed - out loud - You must be effin’ kidding!
😂 Thanks for your thoughts!
I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. It is way too ropey. It isn't the rust you can see, it is the rust you can't see. Unloved.
But. It is your channel. And if you want content ideas, don't mind hemorrhaging money, then go ahead.
I would like to see you meeting with other Rolls owners and see their cars.
Thanks John. Much appreciated. That was my original idea for the channel.
If I had the money and the time,id do it straight away,wish you the best
Thanks, much appreciated. Where in Yorkshire? ... my father always said I could play for Yorkshire Cricket as I was born there!!
Nothing is more Expensive, than a Cheap Rolls
The Best of British Luck Mate,you'll Need it🥵
Not a good idea, one of the least desirable royces ,shadows probably better investment
Thanks for your comment, much appreciated, and for watching.
Hi Chris, my advice is leave it. You know the territory you are in with RR resprays, and that is just for starters. You are looking at a total money pit, which really makes little sense when you have such a large number of Silver Spirits currently on the market and at reasonable money for a nice one. Odd thing about this one is the wheels, they appear pressed steel and by 1986 RR cars where fitted with alloys? Also, the first version of the Spirit was certainly not the best with suspension issues etc. The series 2 and 3 were much better, and the final version had wrap around coded bumpers, centre console, modern door mirrors and was basically a modern car. Some people feel that this model was the last real Rolls Royce.
I'd like an up-together Spirit 3. Thanks for watching.
What you have to do on your RR is to sew in the RR logo on your headrests.
That’s a good idea… I think that’s simply buy new ones from RR… not cheap I’m guessing!
7:42 I thought you were going to say 'Rust on the hubcaps... which matches the rust on the wheel arches.' :0)
😂 I didn't, although it does!!
They also use Chevrolet tra transmissions
Oh really? I didn’t know that. Thanks for watching
Are you sure about that ?. Only ever heard of GM transmissions being used.
The fact the car has not been used much for a few months and left outside for 30 years it certainly has signs of rot. The rear window seals etc all needs replacing the metal may be beyond repair. The body paint could be circa 10k to fix. The rear arches and sills will cost probably £6k to fix. The interior wood refinish would be £2k, the mechanicals for the hydraulic systems and brakes budget £4k , Suspension springs if needed and replacing £3k, Full service and fluids assuming mechanically its "ok" budget £2-3k so that the hoses etc can be done including fuel and brake lines - so quite a lot. -
Top money for a fully original or restored car in prime condition is circa 35 -40k so there is room but not much. If the channel can fund it then it would be interesting but it will take a lot of time to get done. Even at £5k it's expensive really at the condition it is in as a starting point. Conservative fixing costs would be circa £20k assuming that there is nothing sinister underneath. Perhaps get a specialist near you to do an assessment. - Its better to buy a better condition car perhaps - still good content
Thanks that’s really helpful. The channel is nowhere near paying that sort of money… maybe £100 if I’m lucky. So it would be a labour of love…. Another one!!
Buy it... would make great content... lots of us watch all the RR refurb videos from all over the world! I would like to see you take out all the wood and re veneer it... lots of people would like that video... and debate how best to do it... then do the Citroen sphere replacement that most likely need doing, take the seats out and do them etc etc... the car will start, those engines are bullet proof! People watch these channels to see a car refurb... so if you do it... people will watch.... that is the point of this you tube thing!
Hi Chris, I so want to advise you to purchase the car and make a series showing the restoration of the car, and having a glorious finale driving off into the sunset. However,…..i think there are more experienced contributors on here who are advising against this car, and on balance I think they are correct. It’s a RR , and it obviously has that presence about it, but I think that every time you got an invoice for work done on it, you would be questioning your decision.
I think it’s probably a good idea to pass on this example, and check out an alternative.
Jeez,…..I hope I’m right….
Good video Chris
Cheers
John
Thanks John, you’re probably right. I’m just a sucker for an old car in need of some TLC. Although this might be too much.
It's heartbreaking to see a neglected classic car, but even more so if it's an 80s Rolls-Royce still with the first owner. The left doors look like they've had a bad spray job, the shade is completely different. I'm surprized there's so much sun damage given that the car's in the UK, where it's primarily overcast and raining. 😉 Walk away, if you want a Silver Spirit find one that's been loved, this owner just didn't care, and that's a dangerous proposition.
Thanks for commenting. I think I'm inclined to agree.
I thought these looked terrible compared to the silver shadow that preceded it. Just a big shapeless box to me. That one looks a full on restoration job as the rust will be deeper than you think.
I do prefer the Shadow or a later Spirit. The face-lift added a bit more character to the car I think. Thanks for watching.
That's what the latest ones look like -- fridge freezers on wheels! :0)
Chris , if you are a master mechanic or you need it for spares maybe it's worth 5K , otherwise DON'T buy it.IF it is given for free then possibly it's worth restoration . MUCH better to spend your money getting the Phantom into a perfect state . It's only worth buying the Spirit if TH-cam views pay you extremely well
TH-cam doesn't pay well currently... so maybe if its free then! Thanks for your comments.
If that car was here in Texas, I would definately save it!
Shipping is an option!! 😂
Yes it would make great content but how deep are your pockets.
Shallow!! 😂 thanks for commenting.
A wise old man once said: “if you can’t Afford a New Rolls Royce with full factory warranty, then You Can’t Afford the repairs & maintenance on a Used Rolls Royce.
Very true! They are expensive either way.
It needs a fair bit of work. Get it up on a ramp. Like you said if 😊 its passes its MOT it might not be to bad. 😊😊
I have thought about doing that. It would be interesting to have it checked over. 👍
I think it could more accurately be described as 'neglected' by the same family for 30 years. There's very little you could manage yourself and achieve the required standard
It’s a shame, as I would love to learn a bit about maintenance and do a bit more myself. Thanks for watching.
I bought a 1974 Silver Shadow 1 for 11,5K euro's. It cost me almost 22K euro's to get it in a mechanically reasonable condition. Be prepared.
Thanks for the heads up. I think this one needs a good £20k spent on it.
Run away and fast! Yes it's always good to have some variety on channels like yours but your current RR and RR are still producing interesting videos and I'm sure for little money there are more viable cars out there.
Thanks for the comments, much appreciated.
Two words:
"Walk away".
No, better still!
One word, "Run"
😂 Thanks
The most expensive rolls Royce to fix is a clapped out one
That's very true!! Thanks for watching
As many have said, not this one. How about a much older one from the '60s-perhaps easier to learn on!
Thanks Alistair, good idea.
Chris that cars really a breaker look on morris Leslie auctions you can pick up a minter for no money where you have no experience body work I honestly think it would cost fortune to get it half presentable
Thanks for the advice, wasn't sure if it would be good for content.
Spares only £1000
I agree, it would be a fortune to get half presentable. Trouble is it needs to look perfect when it is done, they don't look good a bit tatty in the way a Land Rover or 2cv does.
Aesthetically speaking what a beautiful shaped roller. Dare I say I personally would rather it over the Phantom. Please buy it and slowly do it up yourself. Not an awful lot of money to buy and roadworthy. Sometimes you just have to ignore your head and go with your heart ♥️
That’s very true… like with the Phantom
My mate Vince has already done it on TH-cam.
That’s what I thought… wondered if its ’been done’
would be nicer if you bought a 60s RR
A Silver Cloud would be nice.
@ChrisEdworthy Absolutely agree with you. I've owned a 1965 Silver Cloud III, as second owner, for 42 years. It's been kept properly maintained and is my daily driver. The good thing is that it isn't full of fancy electronics, so any good mechanic can look after it.
Brave, amazed it got an MoT
The rust seems to be surface rust, I think it's just a bit shabby rather than unroadworthy! Thanks for watching
@@ChrisEdworthy it would be lovely to save it. Love the red leather too
If you sell it i think ben from tasty classics is the guy that would buy it of you on youtube he restores cars that have been lying in garages for 30 years and gets them running❤
Thanks that's a good connection to make.
The whole idea of this is saving the car. The penniless commentators in the comnents have neither the money or passion to understand.
It's tricky... how much do you throw at it? Would it be worth it?
@ChrisEdworthy if you want to save it and have the funds
Then carry on.
I've got the money, but certainly not the passion to buy an old banger like this.
There is nothing more expensive than a cheap Rolls Royce, if you do decide to buy it you will remember me saying this further down the line....
Thanks for your comment. I totally agree.
Belongs in sherburn 😉
That would be a shame!! I’d be interested to see what they would offer for it. Thanks for watching.
yes
You sound like me when shopping for a car!
Walk away Chris, walk away with haste. It will be a massive money pit!
Thanks for the feedback. I think you’re right.
If you want another Rolls , invest in a pre-war machine that will hold it's value
Thanks John, good advice. Something that Henry Royce would have had a hand in too.
Oh no .... not another !....already watched My Mate Vince ... currently watching Life on Cars... I'll stick with Paul's channel.
That's why I'm thinking not to buy it... already happening on YT. Thanks for watching.
My mate vince will have a go if you dont 😂😂
Good point! Lol
The cost of getting this car back to good condition will cost 4/5/6 times what the car will be worth.
That's the challenge. Such a shame really.
So much rust and that's only what you can see. Good idea having a cheaper Rolls as a project but not that one Chris.
Thanks, I'm inclined to agree
Great idea re an old SY or SZ. That particular SZ spirit is absolutely ROOTED it’s a parts car it will cost a fortune to bring it all back there are better ones. Dash has pealed back that leather has shrunk. Engine overheated , rusted to hell….. it just went from bad to worse..Roadworthy or not nothing on that spirit will be cheap to redo. My advice is RUN dont do it to yourself on that cluncker.
Thanks for the advice. I may well do that!
Sad to see a once majestic car left outside to rot from the sun and the rain. What a pity. And why???
I know it’s a shame. But at one point it was the gents everyday car. So being outside wouldn’t have mattered too much. But lack of use in more recent years has affected it. Thanks for watching.
I would like to see older rolls on the channel,but that one looks like a lot of headaches
I think you're right, thanks for the feedback.
The body / paint job itself will be over 10 000 € for a decent, not perfect result. Get yourself a 15 K Spirit that needs no fixing.
Thanks for that info... seems to be past the point of rescuing. Thanks for watching.
I own a 1980 shadow 2 in willow gold everflex roof 59000 miles i have owned it for 10 years i am going to sell it as the garage i rent is being demolished for building houses on.
That sounds interesting. Would like to see some pictures. If you’re on instagram send me a few over. Thanks for watching.
@@ChrisEdworthy send me email address and I will send pics
Had a new engine, but no paperwork for it? That car will be an absolute insatiable money pit ... do yourself a favour and please don't. Stick with the one you came in.
Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated.
I'm afraid I wouldn't touch it with someone else's bargepole
Thanks Jim. Much appreciated.
Unless you can do all the work yourself, just walk away. It would obviously be great for the channel but if your looking at a total respray after sorting the rust issues, it will cost you thousands just to get that done to a standard that will justify being a Rolls Royce. I would look for a vehicle in better condition and unfortunately price increase will reflect this. This car is cheap and you can see why.
Thanks Tony, I think I will. I'd like to see it running though. See how it drives.
2K or run.
Or just run 2k!! 😂
Get a newer wraith. Modify that. I’d tune in to every video with that 😁
I did have one... wish I'd filmed it. I may loonat getting one back again. Thanks for watching.
Not worth it. Too much work. A friend of mine has just bought a 1993 Spirit from a dealer for £23k. It's mint, but way over priced. AS others have said, not a sort after model.
True, it’s a bit boxy and not quite old enough yet to be a collectible classic. The shadow is picking up in value for the better examples. I think the Spirit is now the bottom of the Rolls market now. 10 years that might be my Phantom! Lol
I think the Bentley is a better looking car. The round headlights make all the difference. Having said that, there are some real bargains out there in the 6-7k mark. You just have to know what your looking at.
Thats worth max 3 grand..even mint 7 to 8 grand..ive seen worse but there very bad sellers
Thanks for that, much appreciated
I've got a 1986 Bentley Turbo R. Rolls Royce and Bentleys do not like being stored outside. Luckily, mine just fits in my garage. I make TH-cam videos with it on my channel and it's been featured by JJ On Cars
I shall have a look at your channel and JJ on Cars. Thanks for watching!
@@ChrisEdworthy thanks
Another rr would b good but that is not it, that car would never look good, id go for a dark colour one with a cream or light colour interior with piped seats, should consider looking in Ireland also, there are some for sale here,,
Thanks for that feedback much appreciated. A trip to Ireland sounds like a good idea too.
Don't buy this car! It seems it has not been looked after, the fact the owner did not stop when it overheated speaks volumes. Lots and lots of what looks like small jobs but I suspect very expensive ones. Walk away
Thanks Mark. Much appreciated.
I wouldn't touch it with barge pole.
Bet ya life under the rear bumper is rotton
Thanks I’ll check that. Thanks for watching
Whilst it would make interesting content to go through with the restoration journey, it looks to be a lot of blood, sweat and tears and might cost a fortune to get that back to it’s former glory.
Very true... not sure it'll ever make that money back either.
Walk away from that Rolls. Too much to repair.
Thanks for the advice.
Bit pricey for the state of it.
I know, it's tought to know what it's worth
Why not buy a Silver Shadow instead. Much nicer. :0)
Good idea, thanks for watching.
I was born in Thirsk
Sheffield born myself!
Don't touch it its to far gone
Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated.
Donor car. Maybe make a coupe out of it. There are not many of them. You will get a lot of hits out of that. Google Rolls Royce silver spirit coupe
I shall thank you.
If the content is good it doesn't matter whether you travel or restore. Road worthy or Edworthy? You decide. Comparison videos might be best return on whizz for your wonga. 'Look at what you could have won' *nod to Jim Bowen*
In fact rename the channel....... Edworthy's Special Prize. Thank me later.
Well that's a Bulleye comment if I ever saw one!! 😂 Thanks for the feedback!
Those models are absolutely rubbish..worth peanuts ive seen them for as low as 2 grand..they will never be worth anything..early shadows are almost as bad..😂😂
😂 Thanks for that, I know it hard to value as it would cost to repair… and to what standard you repair it too.
steer clear of that one total money pit get a good condition shadow far better
I would like a Shadow or the Corniche of the same shape.
Do it
Thanks for watching Ian
your comment spending 5 or six may be 10 is so far out the wings and around windows will be more than that
Thanks, you’re probably right, I was trying to be optimistic!! 😂
Too far gone unless you’ve tonnes of money to throw at it. Buy something a little better.
Thanks Jonathan, much appreciated.
that car is not very nice,has not been looked after,i would like you to buy a bentley continental,remember they have been making these for a long time now,be nice to show the pitfalls in buying one of those £10,000 models that look cheap but can be hiding,or can you get lucky and only needs a few little things doing.
Bentley Continental would be lovely. I know the bills can be similar to a Rolls if they haven't been maintained. Thanks for watching.
@@ChrisEdworthy of course they do the four door of those as well,just thought it would show that buying a cheap one of these cars might seem like a great deal but can lead to costing a fortune.
First time i looked at your channel. Stop with the you just driving there for paticaly the whole show!
Thanks for the feedback much appreciated.
Parts My friend and thats it !!
Thanks!! Much appreciated.
No,,, take your car on a road trip,,
Thanks James. I’ll would like to do that
Bro Visit me in switzerland 🚀🚀🚀🇨🇭
That's a great idea... Get in touch on Insta.
Money pit…. Run away
🏃♂️🏃♂️ thanks for your comments.
Can you help me get my son a decent little car he is my carer i am 68 year old on state pension i would love to buy him a car but cant afford to he travels a long way to come to me by buses he is a fantastic son and well deserves transport if anyone reading this can help please comment❤
I know a little about Rolls Royces, but general car buying I'm not the best person to help. I wish you well.
Its a heap of shite mate
Thanks for the feedback… no beating around that bush!! 😂
The only appealing thing on that car are the 3 lines coachlines and the rear bench seat arrangement! The rest is scrap 😢
I like the coach line too. I did think about a podcast studio out of the interior!