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Gretsch Bop Shootout: Broadkaster vs. Brooklyn vs. USA Custom (Part 2 of 4)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ส.ค. 2024
- Have you ever wanted to know the differences between a @gretschdrumsusa USA Custom, Broadkaster, and Brooklyn? So did we! This is PART 2 of our 4-part shootout of Gretsch USA Drum Sets! Part 3: Rock Kits coming soon!
Links to Purchase Drums:
Gretsch Broadkaster 4pc Drum Set 18/12/14/14 Satin Antique Maple w/Mount
Available for purchase here: buydru.ms/BK4PC18WM-SAM
Gretsch Brooklyn 4pc Drum Set 18/12/14/14 Satin Antique Maple w/Mount
Available for purchase here: buydru.ms/BL4PC18WM-SAM
Gretsch USA Custom 4pc Drum Set 18/12/14/14 Satin Antique Maple w/Mount
Available for purchase here: buydru.ms/USACUS4PC18WM-SAM
Links to Purchase Cymbals:
Istanbul Agop Signature Hi Hat Cymbals 15"
Available for purchase here: buydru.ms/AGH15
Istanbul Agop Signature Ride Cymbal 23"
Available for purchase here: buydru.ms/AGR23
Istanbul Agop 30th Anniversary Ride Cymbal 22"
Available for purchase here: buydru.ms/30TH22
Heads used:
Tom/Snare Tops: Remo Coated Ambassadors
Tom Bottoms: Remo Clear Ambassadors
Snare Bottom: Remo Hazy Ambassador
Bass Drum: Remo Powerstroke 3 Coated / Coated Ambassador Reso
TuneBot Settings:
12” - Batter: B3 Reso: D4
14” - Batter: G#3 Reso: G#3
18” - Batter: A2 Reso: D3
SD - Batter: E4 Reso: E3
Microphones Used:
Kick - Audix D6 & Shure KSM32
Snare - Telefunken m80
Overheads - Earthworks SR25
Mono Room - Shure KSM32
Room Mics - Earthworks QTC30
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You guys are now officially the best channel for demoing drums. You've even surpassed the pioneers of this, Memphis drum shop !
Good on you guys !👍Oh yeah, Broadcaster sounded the best to my ears. But what do I know?
I'm a Sonor guy 😁
You just made my whole day, man. Thanks so much.
@@drumcenternh It's my pleasure !
Same...Sonor to the core. But if I was looking for a jazz kit, that Broadcaster is pure yum.
BROADKASTER!!! YES!
Y’all deserve so many more viewers as these are some of the best, most informative videos on youtube. keep up the great work!
Thanks so much, Dominic. Spread the word!
Dominic Borrelli Well said ! I agree 100% These guys do the most comprehensive reviews on the net, hands down !
@@randyporter3491 Thanks for watching, Randy!
Thanks for sharing the Tune-bot settings used here. I’ve been trying to find the right tuning for a bop range on my Gretsch Renown set and these notes completely opened my 12” and 14” tons up!
I can’t believe I’ve watched this fantastic entire series, over and over again, and never noticed the RUSH flight case with, (I’m guessing Bubba’s) snare drums. That is an interesting story you ought to tell. I received a post card from Neil when I was a young man.
Amazing kits, amazing playing Mike. Very nice video.. Thanks
Thank you and glad you enjoyed it!
These videos are great. I only wish you had added the Renown series. I think people would be shocked how well they hold up in comparison.
You ain’t kidding!
Here's the link to part 1, in case you missed it: th-cam.com/video/KAeP4zQCeCQ/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching, and supporting our channel! Please spread the word if you enjoy our content so that we can continue to bring you more videos like these!
would have never thought, love the brooklyn the most!
I know it's so lively!
I tried all three sets and bought the Brooklyn's. I would be willing to bet you put the die cast hoops on them they would sound just like the USA custom. I chose the Brooklyn's because they had a more open sound with the 302 hoops. ALL THREE ARE GREAT.CANT GO WRONG.!!!
@@davidsuprenant893 i thought about the die cast hoops - have to be the exact same shells - which is even greater!
@@davidsuprenant893 Hi David. How does the tuning range of the Brooklyns compare to the USA Custom in your opinion. I have an 80's Gretsch Usa kit with sizes that are too big for the way I want to tune so I'm looking at the Brooklyns. Thanks David!!
David Suprenant dig
Got my Brooklyn bop kit last week and very very happy
nicely done, as always. thanks guys!
Again a wonderful video... Thanks so much DCP !!
Thank you so much for a super informative video, and especially thank you for posting the Tune-bot settings!
Thanks for watching, Tim! We appreciate you.
That hi-hat is chipping away at my heart! ❤️
Well, I quickly thought the Broadcaster was the choice, but much to my surprise, the Brooklyn sound even better (to me). I realize that so many variables influence the sound quality, but with this setup, the more affordable Brooklyn gets my vote and at a cost savings ! Great video guys, as always. Thank you !
Great series!
Thanks guys for those videos, very useful!!
Is it just me or the Brooklyns sound really better?
Really surprising results.
Great video!
Cheers from Brasil!
Cheers, Julz! Thanks for watching!
It's not you, I kind of like the Brooklyns on this one.
Hmm, my favs were the broadkasters, to each their own I guess
I tend to favor the USA but they all can work depending on what songs and environment you’re in.
all three kits sound great.
Thanks again DCP you guys KNOCKED it out of the park .
Thanks, David!
Great video. USA snare and Broadkaster 3-piece kit were the clear winners to me.
clear demo and great swing feel!👍
Yeah guys, great video as always. Those USA Customs sound like mine....ef'in awesome!
When the review opened with Mike behind the kit, my first and immediate impression was "Wow! What a great sounding kit!" But when the Broadkaster was up, I really went Wow! For me, I'm diggin' the sound of the Broadkaster just a bit more. I didn't so much care for the Brooky's Floor Tom. It would be a close call, but I'm guessing that I would select the Broadkaster. Fortunately I have a Sonor Sunset Beech Bop kit that still does it for me, otherwise, I'd have to have that Great Gretsch Sound...... again!
Just picked up a Catlina Club, and hope to get it setup soon. I know it’s not the same as these kits, but this video has me so excited. Amazing drumming here, too.
I have the Catalina Club Jazz kit and they are by far, the best value for the money. Even though they are made in Taiwan (in the DW drum factory), they are still made to Gretsch standards and definitely have "that Great Gretsch Sound". I've tailored mine to suit my taste and I am very satisfied with it.
Would I prefer a USA made bop kit? Probably. But, until I can afford to pull the trigger, I'm content. I've owned other name brands, sizes, models and types of wood. For me, Gretsch mahogany with the proper heads are the best.
I'm an old jazz player who prefers smaller venues at lower volume with brushes and wood tip sticks and dark cymbals. It's hard to believe I started out in the 60's in a garage band doing exactly the opposite of what I do now.
Great video!
Great video. USA Customs sound brighter to my ears. I wish the drums would have been tuned up just a bit higher. Agops sounded nice!
I am not a Jazz Cat 🐈 However as a drummer I could appreciate the musicality of the three respective kits and in this video you could really identify that each series truly had it’s own different voice from each other 😃
The U.S.A.'s .... my favourite. They are so articulate and beefy. Beautiful drums.
They’re great drums.
Thanks for the great comparison - very helpful. For me USAC all the way! The bass' just kickin'
Darn, that’s a tough call. Love all of them. I used to think the Brooklyn had the bottom end that I prefer, but now I think the Broadcaster does.
Great video all 3 kits are great. Would have been nice to hear them cranked up higher though
To my surprise, I’m diggin the Broadkasters.
Nice video. Channel is totally underrated and needs more views
Preach!
I like the Brooklyns as well, but I really suspect that it mostly has more to do with the 302 hoops than the shells. They simply have a warm, fat, yet lively character that no other hoop has. I would LOVE to hear the USA Customs with 302s on them. Thanks for these videos!
You guy's make great videos. I'm from Florida but I would love one day to visit this drum shop. 👍
Do it! It's worth the trip (in the warmer months.) 😀
@@drumcenternh I will, thank you
DCP cranking out the best videos in the biz so that we can make informed decisions, get our personal demo lists made, and choose the products that best fit our needs. Whether people realize it or not, that's an incredibly helpful level of customer service, even for those drummers who have not yet purchased from this A+ drum shop! In the past two weeks, members of my drum forum have purchased high end kits from Shane and the lads, and both customers were absolutely thrilled with the products, service, and delivery times. And, we got to enjoy some beautiful photos!
Today's winner: Broadkaster. Those thin shells sans re-rings were born to play in those sizes and tunings; everything you want a bop kit to sound like!
Grateful to you guys as always, and thanks for another winner!
-J.
Thanks for the kind words, Jason. Your support means a lot to us!
@@drumcenternh You're very welcome! I love the passion; that's why we do this.
That Broadkaster sounds amazing 👍
Great Video guys. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Gotta say, just like Part 1, I'd buy the Brooklyn. Really lively! Tasty!
In this test, they sounded much better than the other two, and those sounded great! Nice job, Drum Center!
Thanks, really useful video.
Thanks for watching!
USA customs are just music to my ears, the perfect drum ever made to me that is why I own 2 sets of them! All of them are awesome though Gretsch never fails!
btw, your Jazz Guy sounds good!
Thanks, Julian! Mike is a humble dude.
The kit that I like Gretsch Brooklyn jazz drum kit!
The Brooklyns have the warmest sound and the snappiest snare.
My pick.
" Go Cat Go! "
What a treat!
Gene Krupa, is that you?
I’ve watched part 1 and 2, I still find myself liking the USA custom toms the best but the Broadcaster snare is my favorite sounding, and all 3 bass drums sound great but I lean towards the broadcaster bass drum too
The kick on the USA sounds best but overall I like the Brooklyn kit.
Part 1 I chose USA Custom.
Part 2 The Brooklyn is the winner!
It has a very modern punchy sound with a vintage vibe.
👏👍
Wait till you hear the rock kits, Greg.
Wonderful videos, but I really would like to have seen the bearing edges and a picture or description of a "scarf joint".
What the heck is a "reverse-round-over", what is its degree and what is its history?
Exactly what is the interior "silver sealer"?
All of the videos and ads act like I should already know these things. Please help.
Defo the Broadkaster for me, that bass drum sounds naughty
great comparison, thanks! A bit higher/jazzier tuning would have been great though
Wait, you want them tuned HIGHER?
great video .any muffling in bass drum?
What mic preamps did you use? Sounds great!
Regarding sound characteristics, how do the Renown's compare to the Brooklyn and Broadkaster?
Truly a Great video, what would you say is the best maple kit for around 2,000 - 3,500. Thx so much ❤️
Can't choose just one! Here are a couple we are digging right now:
buydru.ms/CDMAPLE4PC-HS
buydru.ms/ME42TZSVOLM
buydru.ms/L8424AX52
Wow, awesome video, awesome playing, awesome kits.
What was Mike's favourite btw?
Love how the small kit sounds big to me!
Mike owns a Brooklyn, if that helps. ;)
I love them all! I'm lucky enough to have a USA and a Brooklyn, so now I just need a Broadcaster! :) For my go to jazz kit I got a USA Custom and put a coated ambassador on the bass drum batter head - that's THE classic sound!
when did the USAC shell lay up change?
Great video as always. Fyi When clicking on link to the Broadcaster it takes you to USA Custom kit.
Thanks, Steven...fixed!
Broadkaster for me on this and I own the Brooklyn’s 😱
Wow their all good but the Brooklyn sounds more beep bop, ultimately if finances weren't an issue I'd be going USA Custom for sure😅
I just noticed the $8,000 Neil Peart snare set in the background.
Is there any information about the way the drums were tuned in this video? These are all great kits, but they respond to spesific tunings differently. I have US Customs (6 piece kit) and broadkasters (4 piece bop sizes) and I used to have Brooklyns (bop sizes). What I found out that, Broadkasters and USA's respond amazingly to nearly every tuning, especially for recording situations, however, Brooklyns respond to low tunings better but not better then others, imho.. That's why I didn't keep brooklyns.
And the BITE.. in my opinion, Brooklyns didnt have enough fullness for their transients on higher tunings.. The US Customs and Broadkasters had the fullness needed on very much every tuning I tried. And they responded better on the mics, both stage and studio.
Please, I'd love to hear your experiences.
All the best.
Brooklyn for me
are these snare drums all the same? and are the stock with these kits. Absolutely perfect!
All of the snare drums match the kit series, all stock! Thanks for watching.
Great content but I really wish that you guys wouldn’t muffle the bass drum like a rock kick. There’s supposed to be muffling in there, but bop bass drums are usually resonant enough to make the bass drum sound like an 18” floor tom
are the tune bot settings the lug settings?
Yes, that's what I was wondering too. But if the Lug setting was meant, the snare's reso would hang down like baggy underpants.
I like the broadkaster
James L
My Buddy just got a Broadkaster. Sounds Incredible!!
Weird...I liked the Broadkaster rack tom, the USA Custom floor tom and bass drum, and the Brooklyn snare. Overall, I prefer the USA Customs.
The BroadKaster w all that maple.
I think it's a question of overtones, the difference between the lines of kits.
They vary progressively more as the standard series are made more affordable.
Directness of the tone and audible reverberation with more emphasis on the drum heads is prominently displayed in the thinner or cheaper series kits.
For the money value, I thought that 2nd kit 3ply had the best tonal control and drum head sympathetic reverberation, voicing.
I understood more air reverberation from the shell difference between the lines of kits.
All are superb, no doubt.
Specific reason to get each kit for preferred affordable price, tonal needs, and manner in which the player approaches the instrument.
How the drummer touches /plays the drumheads, how hard, soft dynamic the application.
Still would vote for Broadcaster series. But they boom big and bright in the live room in person.
I played classic GRETSCH in NYC studios on occasion.
They articulate in a tone control foam padded booth like a keyboard, specific quality like I never heard, so strong made, and exacting to be handled in the right player application.
Any idea to the sticking at 1.34 , parradiddle didle part, and the count
Oliver Patrick Loughnan Oliver Patrick Loughnan hi! Looks like I’m playing a five beat phrase in triplet subdivision that I repeat three times - Rounded out with a two beat triplet phrase - the sticking is
Rll rrL Rll BBR Lrr 3X’s then BBLRll
R= right rim shot L = left rim shot B= bass drum R and L after bass notes are on toms
Funny to figure this out- this was filmed in one take and I was just improvising - I definitely wasn’t thinking any of this lol!
Thanks for your interest -
@@bmguilfordmec Thanks for the reply , its a very tasty lick , I ended up slowing the video down and re watching many times . Great stuff again and thank you . OL
@@bmguilfordmec thanks , great playing
Brooklyn sounds best!!!! ❤️
Brooklyn
Brooklyn are great for the $
Excellent demo. They are all great sounding drums. My preference is the Brooklyn by a small margin. They have a slightly warmer sound with a bit more cut at the same time (perhaps a bit of natural scoop).
Prefer the Brooklyns...also warmer and less expensive than the USA Customs., however, prefer the Usa Custom snare.
USA Custom, That Great Gretsch Sound.
Brooklyn with die cast hoops = USA Custom.
Toni Napoli and I have been asking about tune bot settings (see below). Unfortunately there is no answer from the DCP. Is there anyone out there who can answer this?
We always tune the resonant head much tighter than the batter side head, so there was either a typo, or we read the TuneBot incorrectly. Apologies.
@@drumcenternh Okay, that's what I suspected. I think most drummers tune the snare reso much tighter than the batter side. Thanks a lot.
Think I'm leaning towards a broadcaster.
Are you using a muff?
no.
This cat can play!!!!
They're really not that different like shane said. I Guess They are more noticeable from the feel and the player's perspective...
USA Custom 01:04
Broadkaster 02:48
Brooklyn 04:42
Broadkaster #1 in my book....but USA and Brooklyn are great also.....
...interested how you tuned/muffled those kick drums
No muffling on any of the drums in this video. Tuning wise, it was tuned with a Tunebot and the settings are Batter: A2 Reso: D3.
@@drumcenternh yeah but with emads or something, right?
@@ocho611 nope.
@@drumcenternh impressive. nice work.
@@ocho611 Thank you! It helps when you have a well-made kick and USA Remo heads!
What’s the tuning on these ?
It's in the description.
Drum Center of Portsmouth
Would you say low, medium or high.
@@roybeckerman9253 Medium-ish
No opinions from the staff?
We kept this one a little short, we'll give more feedback in the next video! Thanks for watching, Phillip.
Prefer the Brooklyns.
It shows the most expensive drums, don’t always mean the best for all drummers.
Still boils down to individual taste.
Such a shame that gretsch puts the muffled head on the 18" kick... Kills the tone!
Definitely the broadkaster
Hello, I tuned my snare - not a Gretsch but a Y. maple custom abs - the way you did. But it sounds awful. Reso one octave lower (sic) than the batter (E3 vs E4)!! Is that really right? Or is it a mistake? Or just a joke? Thanks for your response.
The USA Customs and Broadkasters sound identical...until you get to the kick drum.
Broadkaster
I dig Broadkasters and Customs, Brooklyn is not my cup of tea.
Why do you keep publishing vids from 3 to five years old?
We only published this once. Look at the date.
Love to see tama superstar and pdp wood hoop bebop kits video.
To bad gretsch doesn't make a Catalina maple bebop kit. I think they just might fly of the shelves
The Tama Superstar can compete with the upper lines funny enough. Those shells are that good.
They do make a gretsch cat. Bop kit. $699.00
@@davidsuprenant893 it's the catalina jazz kit with mahgony shells. Nice sounding kit but i had one but sold it. I like the maple ones i mentioned early.
Fantastic video. I'll get flamed for saying it probably and that's fine. Gretsch - most overrated drums of all time.
Let's ask GRETSCH DIRECTLY ! Here : th-cam.com/video/IPi07xHq46s/w-d-xo.html
Brooklyn