BMW 640d in depth Review - Long Term OWNERSHIP thoughts *ULTIMATE GT CAR*
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- A real time ownership review of the BMW 640d.
Car Mad Dad’s guide to running the car, costs, and ownership. Including why I believe these really are one of the used car bargains of the decade!
My thoughts of the 640d for what has been 2 years and 30,000 miles as my daily workhorse, the car has been through everything I can throw at her! As a typical family man needing a car for all purposes, the 640d really is more than just your average family car.
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I think a BMW 640d is genuinely my (attainable) dream car, we all have the Porsche 911 GT3’s and the Ferrari 488’s in our heads but for the realistic everyday, I fancy the pants off a 640d.
cracking all rounder chappy
I've just realised the used prices on these, I'm absolutely in love with them! I've had a shitwagon Insignia for 5 years, its a nightmare. My brain says spend the money on a newer car, but my heart says get a 6 Series.
A wise choice in my opinion Chap - loved mine.
@@CarMadDad Any advice on what to look out for when looking at them?
IMO - full BMW or specialist service history
Lower mileage and genuine BMW parts
No major gremlins as far as I am aware - may be best to consult a forum though 🤔
After also owning an insignia I’d say any car would be better 😂😂 quite liking the idea of a 635d as a daily atm..
Price a rear tyre 250-290
I had been waiting for this one ! What a brilliant car !
Cheers buddy - really appreciated x
Thanks for the review buddy. Bought one on the back of this review. Love it and is pretty much spot on from what you have disclosed.
That's amazing feedback chap - thank you x
Best and honest review I've watched. Getting a blue one with the same interior, can't wait!
Enjoy buddy
And cheers 👌
Ooooo ooh....smart intro.. Loved watching how you evolve. Really good watch yet again. Do wish you well with your channel. Once again I'm extremely pleased that I found your channel.
Thank you so much 😁
I know this video has been up for a while but just came across it! You have gained another subscriber - thanks for a very honest, clear and no BS review from a normal guy. I have a 730d with the same number plate as yourself, one letter different instead of the "U"!!! Keep the content coming :)
Oh wow chap - thank you for the view and comment 👌
Totally agree with you on choosing the right tyres, ! Great Video
Thank you 🙏🏻
Just bought an 18 plate GC... can't wait to collect it!
Fantastic news - great choice!
Enjoy 😉
I am looking to buy a 640d . Thank you for a truthful review in the first place. Fantastic advice & I have to agree, for what it is...it’s a beautiful looking car that has panache when you see it in the “flesh” metal.
Cheers for your thoughts and comments Simon. MUCH APPRECIATED. Happy Car Hunting 😁
Excellent review.
Awesome dude
Cheers x
Great review. Thinking of getting one of these or a 435d. Whilst in theory I'd like a more agile sporty drive, in reality I think the luxury and refinement of the 640, as well as the looks would make it a better choice, especially for long journeys
You've hit the nail on the head there Chris. Performance will be very similar and if you pick one up with rear wheel steering that would improve agility. Don't get me wrong though - it's no slouch around the corners in the right mode.
Happy Car Shopping!
@@CarMadDad Got a feeling that this is going to be buried somewhere on a spec sheet long since lost to many owners. Are there any give aways like other visual spec it's bundled with? Or are we stuck with rolling the dice?
@@confounded_feline If you buy approve used they will know however there are no visual signs of this externally on the car as far as I am aware.
Hey Chris,
I would love to know if you pulled the trigger on any of your options. I'm currently in the same boat like you. 435 vs 640/650.
I don't know if you bought the 435d but I you want sport, i wouldn't recommend it.
It sure is very quick but noisy and will not make you feel safe in high speeds (even with adaptive suspensions), I hope the 6 is more stable ans posed on he road...
Hi Chris, belter review and rewatch this a few times as getting one this year , the only dilemma being I've got is a 12 and 11 year old that will spend some time in car on short journeys as well as the missus . I agree with you that the 2 door is better looking , yet the GC seems the more recommended. Also quite a few reports on the GC coming in that the rear behaves skittish on the road , what you think?
Thanks dude - real kind of you.
If you need the back at all - you need to go for the gran coupe chap.
Last 12 year old I had in mine was ok - but as a one off not a regular thing!
I’ve never heard about the difference in rear end - that could just as easily be down to tyre choice in my opinion!
Just bought one to do the UK/south-of-France run rather than cabbage-class in Ryanair. First run 1320Km @ 44mpg. 3 year, 13000mile car for 33% of original list - MAGIC :-)
That great to hear Peter - miles of smiles im sure x
I got one when your speeding the turbo sounds Amazing
Yeah love a good spool!
I saw a different video of yours about the land rover in which you said that you are driving it in winter. Do you think that 640d is useless/dangerous to drive in winter season or would it doable with winter tires? How would you say is the traction on wet roads? The car delivers a lot of torque to rear wheels so can you drive quickly on wet roads without losing traction?
Hi Jan
The 640d was a capeabel car in the winter - but I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND winter tyres.
Now thats a review!!
Cheers chappy - appreciated x
Great video , thanks .
Cheers dude
Some of my earlier stuff now but people really seem to still enjoy it 🤗
This was my go to review when I was changing car and in my heart had decided that I was going to get a 640d.
I took the plunge eight weeks ago now and bought a low mileage one in space grey. I’ve replaced the mid quality tyres which still had plenty of tread on for some much quieter and super grippy Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GTs which I felt the car deserved. What an gorgeous car I now have. I absolutely love it. I now look forward to my 30 mile drive to work each day.
Thanks for a brilliant review Car Mad Dad. You convinced me that I was making the right purchase, and I haven’t regretted it for a second.
Andy - thank you very much kind Sir!
You absolute legend - sounds like a good purchase.
Thank you for the feedback.
Wishing you many smiles per miles
Do these handle nicely for a large car? I’m getting the urge to get one….such a used bargain now…..
A refreshing change to see a non profit for charity channel. Well done.
Is the interior display and software on the Info screen etc the same as on a 13 m40d. Also does it sound the same. I hope you get tens of 1000s of subscribers. 👌👌
Steve you Legend - cheers x
Think the screen is similar chap yes (only bigger)
Top man top review
🤙 cheers fella 👌
Superb car and great review 👌🏽. By the way what's that outro music 🔥?
Cheers chappy
Don’t have the track anymore - apologies
@@CarMadDad No worries, cheers 👍🏽
Gorgeous car mate, just about to purchase one. What did you lower the car by and what width are the wheel spacers? It's a must for that sweet stance 👌
Hi Ian
I think if you watch my other video of the 6 at Motech you will get all of your answers there???
Fab video I'm looking at these 6 series 640d at the moment, what's the name of the track at the end of the video?
Cheers Bobby 👌
Not sure chap - might be worth a Shazam!!!
I own e92 and I thought it will be quiter inside. No it's not on 20''. Maybe rft tyres make this kind of noise or this is a camera
combination of camera and roads in urban area that I live in
Ditch the run flats as soon as you can. It transforms the ride and handling.
Yeah big step up - agreed
100% agree with your review. I’ve had mine for three years and it goes back next week, I did suffer with pot holes and the low profile tyres costing me 2 nsf tyres (Staffordshire roads I’m afraid) Apart from that a great car, pick up my new X5 tomorrow!
Thank you for your comments and thoughts Warren... ENJOY the new X5 - BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL car and a great choice.
This is a fantastic review great car- i had 635d tuned would knock the gonads of this but this is great, reliable German engineered like me
Oh cheers chappy 👌
Reliable and German? Hmm. No German car ever wins the reliability surveys. Don’t get me wrong, I love my two BMWs and my Audi but they have constant issues / niggles.
I am looking at getting a 6-series, thanks, this review looks like it has cost me £19k!
Love this buddy - cheers x
Car Mad Dad hallo did you had any problems with the car since the video?i mean reliability wise
werder freak I’ve recently got rid of my 2012 640D. Had to get rid of it as my kids are growing and don’t fit in the back with me in the front. In terms of reliability I had owned mine for just over 6 years, did 145k and not once did I have to pay for any repairs. Only cost was servicing was generally done every 22k which was astounding.
Wouldn’t worry about the servicing being BMW, they do not generally carry out a service as good as a independent. Every time I took mine to BMW was always told I needed new brake disc, despite them changing them the year before. Took it to my regular garage and they said they did had a few years life left in them.
Same here! Bought one today for a similar price. Had an issues since you got it?
Where do you guys find them so cheap?? I’m struggling to find one under 30k 1 year later! What year is it?
I have a 640d grancoupe it's fabulous
That’s great to hear Chris 👍👍
What car did u buy instead ? I just sold my 640d fully loaded and can't find a new car . Test drove everything u can think of from performance to saloons all mercs porsche bmws but can't find something that ticks all the boxes of the 640d
We had a bog swap at home chap
Ended up with a T5 camper and a M2 Competition…
Neither do the long stuff so we’ll but managed to get a lot of practicality and some fun on the side 😂
Thanks ofr the video. I am defo now going to get one. Like you, i have been looking at 135, 140 335 d/i etc but naaa. get me ne of these beauts.
Cheers buddy - appreciated
I bought a CLS instead of a 640i. I am sad to say that I have regretted my decision since the very first day if I’m perfectly honest, and unfortunately that’s honest. Good review, mate. I reckon I would have made the correct choice if I had happened to view this before taking the plunge. Oh well, next year I’ll rectify matters.
Thanks again. Good luck with your channel.
Cheers for the comment and your thoughts Kemper 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Remember there are no mistakes - only lessons 😜
Why do you regret it? I'm on the verge of buying a CLS too. What are your thoughts on the car?
@@JudeMarchisio Hey Jude, I bought a CLS with 44,000 on the clock, FSH. I have got to admit that it drove well, but replacing suspension arm bushes and front springs with that kind of mileage on a Merc isn't on. Engine management warning lights that put the car into limp mode on an intermittent basis. A few other niggles. I know that nothing is guaranteed, but they're not of the same quality as in past. A friend of mine paid a lot of money for a update R class, virtually new and had an absolute nightmare. £22,000 for the car, and over £8k in the first year.
@@JudeMarchisio Sorry, pressed to post before I had finished. I'm just giving a true account of my personal experience and that of a close friend. It's just the luck of the draw sometimes, so whatever you decide to buy in hope you enjoy, and have a better experience than me. All the best.
@Kamper boyd hi buddy , i need your help im stuck between 650 and cls550 and maybe a maserati qp . but thats so weird , others say 650 is super unreliable thats why they tell me to buy cls . If you could go back in time , would you choose 650 or cls ? . and how is the experience of driving a cls ? is it boring or its fun ? do you enjoy driving it ? i would be glad if you answer me 🙏
Which Eibachs you went for ? Sportline or Pro Kit? Thanka for the review.
Not sure chap - think the sport line 👌
@@CarMadDad Red ones are Sport Line and black ones - Pro kit.
Think they were black chap 👍
Motech recommended them - so left it with them - apologies
Would anyone recommend the 640i gran coupe of this as a 2 small children family car, combined a12/a406 driving 30 miles daily? Hoping mpg isn't too bad on that! Prefer it over the 640d.
Hopefully someone on here can help out chap
Im loving my 640xi gc , awesome car just wish the sunroof went all the way back. And my goodness I wish I didnt have the opal white seats they are lovely to look at but horrible to maintain
Cheers for your thoughts chappy x
How would a baby seat do with fitting in those back seats?
if you need the back seats - look for a grand coupe
Been looking at a 640gc I cover some big miles for work this looks the perfect motor
Should do the job buddy x
@@CarMadDad how is the reliability?
@@mondomusic1284 Never had any issues myself so pretty good in my opinion
@@CarMadDad how many miles does it have? These cars are a dream to drive I'm just concerned about the maintenance repair. You have a beautiful example
“Car Mad” you still got this car? I’m considering this or Maserati Ghibli. Any thoughts?
No chap. Sold on some time ago however miss it dearly
Seriously considering one of these, would 120k miles on a 2013 put people off?
So long as the service history was solid I wouldn’t shy away chap however a personal preference of mine would be for a lower mileage example 👌
people say that if you drive the car only in the town the small turbo charger will be broken soon
I have t heard that one personally chap. However if you are only driving in a town - could a city car not be more suitable anyway???
@@CarMadDad yeah youre right but anyway the thing is that small turbo charger brakes down soon when driving in a town only
Was thinking of buying one, has to be coupe, I have a C250 coupe Mercedes 2013 and need and use it with rear seats folded, regularly, can’t believe BMW did this, love the straight 6 turbo diesel, had a 3 and 5 series with that engine, oh well, more than happy with the C250.
Cheers for viewing and sharing thoughts 👌
Can’t decide between a used convertible or the coupe . What do u think
Subject chap - but if you are going diesel its the coupe for me all day long!
@Car Mad Dad please let me know the estimated fuel consuption on urban normal driving
Approx 37mpg dude
@@CarMadDad thank you very much
Anytime 👍
Can’t believe I haven’t had one of these sooner. Always forget about them when it’s time for a new car and kick myself. After 3 and 5 series and a Range Rover Sport (great car, when it works) I think it’s time for a 6 series
Top banana 🍌
I’m looking at a six series and there’s one thing that’s very confusing and I’d appreciate if someone could help.
I’m looking at the facelifted car. The facelifted car has 9 instead of 10 slates in grille, different headlights and wing mirror turn signals. But the one thing that’s confusing are the rear reflectors. I’ve read that they are positioned in the lower section of the rear bumper on the pre-facelift cars, and moved just under the tailights on the facelift. But the thing is that I have seen some cars that appear to be facelifted (2015+) have the reflectors positioned on the lower section of the bumper and some have it under the tailights. Can anyone please help clear the reflector thing up?
Thanks!!
Not to sure myself chappy - anyone???!!!
@@CarMadDad I think I figured it out - it seems to be incorrect that it has to do anything with facelift, but the package. The m sport cars have the reflector under the tailight. Thank you for the reply!
Here in Holland the roadtax is 240 euro a month or so sigh (diesel).
Wow 😯
Didn’t realise it was soooo steep out there.
Is it worth buying 1 with 80k miles?
Depends on service history, condition, number of owners and previous accidents... And how long that piece if string is that your holding ;0)
Joking aside, I wouldn't let that mileage put me off one of these in the right condition - however I would only consider it if i knew I had available funds for big repair costs just in case...
@@CarMadDad lmaoo there is a truth behind every joke!! I'll pass mate
The performance is not identical to the 4 series, 4 is faster, lighter and more agile...talking about the 430/435d in comparison to the 640d. Apart from that, great review
430d is identical- 155mph limited top speed, 0-62 in 5.5s.
straight line there is nothing between them buddy - if anything the 6 will start to pull away in the bigger numbers if you are off out trying to loose your license. Having drove both cars for long periods of time, a simpleton like me could not tell the difference at all.
What year is the car?
2016 dude
I didt trust your review about Discovery sport and i war so wrong :) why did you put the middle finger on this one as well ? I am afraid of it as you put it on the Discovery as well :) is this a reliable car after 130,000km ?
Loved the 640d dude - just abit if click bait for good measure in this one so don’t worry. Nothing but live for the 640d
I got mine for 20k, this year. They do hold there vaule
Congrats
Owing one for over 3 years and has been brilliant. Remapped it on its first year and it feels alive. So far I’ve done nothing apparat from servicing but it’s very front heavy 😅
Great to hear chap 👍
Remapped where
@@derekporter66 where as the garage name ?
@@YordanHristooov yea .
@@derekporter66 ACR tuning Carluke
Great review, but do NOT sell your 640d for 21k, that’s way too cheap for the mileage and spec that this thing has, I reckon this could fetch 23-23.5 if you’re patient
CHEERS BUDDY - NOTED!
Will do some proper research in time for October ;0)
Went for 23k ;0)
Car Mad Dad How Comes that they Are so cheap at the UK? In Germany I have to pay for a 2016 640D Gran Coupe 38.000 € (with 38.000 Miles on the Clock).
@@7VCGiMKIrX Not sure buddy - maybe the German market has stronger residuals???
Had a 2013 640d sold it and now own a 335d xdrive and I have to day the 6 is the better car in my opinion but is depreciating rapidly
Thank you for the view and your thoughts Ross.
Agree - but i bet you can get more in the 335!
how much is the insurance for 1 year
As long as that piece of string you are holding! 🙄🙄🙄
Car Mad Dad - ballpark figure...
@@psilence015 Depends on the size of the ballpark... I believe it was approx £850 for the year on 12,000 miles and social domestic pleasure AND business use
This or 335d xdrive?
One of these for me personally ☝️
Bit more special
@@CarMadDad these don't come with xdrive though is that right?
@@Sbrumtwn I think that is correct chap yes. Good set of rubber will see that straight though x
@@CarMadDad yeah hard choice cause the xdrive is brutal off the line but this looks a lot nicer. Either way i think i'd go with this as it still looks pretty new on the road.
Don’t think you’ll notice too much difference off the line in the real world buddy (only my opinion) but it’s no slouch 👍
Twin scroll tubro. One single turbo
Cheers chappy
These are twin turbo, not single turbo twin scroll like 520d,530d engines across all series variants with the same engines! 535d, 435d or 640d etc etc are all twin turbo engines.
?? In germany 640 d grancoupe, m...2014... 100.000 km.... Minimum 32000 euro.... in uk just 16000 to 20000 pounds???
I believe so chap
Bargain right???
He’s a dad…and he’s car mad. 🤔
I can see your getting the jist 👌
@@CarMadDad 😂🤪oh it could go on and on he’s glad and he’s Rad! You get the gist.
Trying my best to stay away from bad sad fad 😂
Liked and subscribed from me!
Awesome dude 😎
Cheers 🍻
I love the 6 series I really want one even if it's an 06 plate but now that you mentioned the 435D I'm having a look at that too
Both great cars dude - enjoy either way and thank you again
pronounced Coupay - not Coop, please.
Thank you for spelling that out for me. Feel free to continue sending me constructive feedback to ignore 👍
@@CarMadDad Carry on - it'll make your american viewers happy anyway.
@@CarMadDad nah chappy, say it right, makes you look smarter;)
Jesus christ.. imagine paying 600 quid just to change the oil in a car when you can do it your self and spend 100 bucks on the oil lol.
Wasn't just the oil buddy but truth be told, my time is better spent behind a laptop than under a car.
Only of you earn £600 an hour, minus the cost of the oil £500 an hour, if you earn £500 an hour you wouldn't be driving a 640d.
Thats about 1 million a year.
Did i go too far?
Unless its a full service, id want belts and water and diff changed for £600.
Nice review though
Terrible mic quality couldn’t hear the speech, I’m quite deaf but can hear all the other channels, shame i think I’d like this.
Sorry about that chap - one of my much earlier efforts 😞
LCI= Life Cycle Impulse
Cheers Roger
Good good good😀😀 i LOVE the 6 series
Thanks Roger
£600 for an oil change 🤣
I don't understand how my X3, with the same engine, is under £200 other than BMW mugging customs off
Suppose they saw me coming 😂
@Car Mad Dad I only paid that once. Oil and filter is £80 and it's easy to do.
Seriously thinking about one of these to replace my old M3 though. It makes me laugh when it starts screaming at 7k but it's not easy to live with and I'd never leave it in a car park all day.
Why get a diesel? Diesel exhaust stinks and is dirty
Great mpg - lower running costs and great torque 👍
@@CarMadDad yeah, but the dusty black soot and smell along with the low rpm and knocking sound the engine produces is not worth it.
Didn’t experience any of that but if you say so 👍
@carmaddad
👍
Why can people not pronounce these cars correctly. The word is not coop, it is coupé. Pronounced coopay.
My apologies
dude whats with the middle finger
Attention seeking I am 😂😂😂 Nothing about the car chap - I love it 😻
@@CarMadDad im a massive BMW fan, I was like what the heck 😂