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I think that was why they attacked, actually. Bok's son, I think his name was Flax, discovered that the Federation didn't use currency after the USS Stargazer happened upon them as they were both conducting a survey of the location (it had a large deposit of dilithium, hence the Ferengi interest). He thought the Federation was insane because of it and proceeded to attack the USS Stargazer. The book also explains why the Ferengi were considered so dangerous in the early days: the Grand Nagus also thought the lack of currency was a sign of insanity and actively built up the military strength and had rumours spread deliberately to put themselves into a stronger position once the Federation made full contact.
USS Constellation, an 1850s sloop of war, was rebuilt and is now on display in Baltimore. Coincidentally, USS Constitution is also still around, and is famously berthed in Boston.
The silver Constitution class model in Picard's ready room was there because the effects team were using the yellow Constellation set prop as a study model for building the shooting model, and they needed something to fill that space. The set prop was a combination of AMT Enterprise kit parts and parts from several Anime model kits.
The humor is so perfect. I can't get enough. Am I the only one who wants a Stargazer prequel show at some point? (Of course only if they can find an actor good enough to play a younger Picard, as hard as that may be)
The Stargazer, when starfleet engineers scraped the ship design barrel for ugly ideas. " yes, No. 1, my old command, Stargazer, we used to call her ...... old deep dish ".
I have an idea on the "rocks". Maybe the bridge is well insulated with something like glass foam insulation and when they receive damage it breaks apart into rock like chunks. Need that insulation for when you lose life support. Would prolong the crew for a while before freezing to death. Just a thought, look it up.
If you look back to TOS episode the Balance of terror there is a scene when they explain what plasma does to whatever metal is used in ship construction. Those "rocks" are probably pieces of metal, melted bcz of plasma conduits overloading.
that's not rocks... that's whatever plastic they use to make the layer that covers the bulkheads. that carpet they step on, on the bridge? probably that stuff underneath it. those metal strips running around the outer rim of the bridge of the E? that stuff in between them. the roof panels? that's not wood, that's probably that stuff.
What you mean is ablative armour... that’s a thing. Maybe for, wait for it... Junkball? Maybe junkball should make a video about ablative armour that turns into balls of junk on impact on the bridge. And yes. I am a genius. Just a very dumb one.
Sounds like that first boat of female prisoners sent to Australia to join the other men. On the way they started making money by whoring the boat out and... by disembarking at Australia they were halfway pregnant already.
The Constellation Class Starship is a beauty. Some may call her Fugly, but she has her charms perhaps more so than the Constitution class in a way - and I am obsessed with the Consitution class.
twenty one cries for help Hard to believe that anyone who wants lots of explosive ship combat would recognize the class. The old fans that know of the Stargazer probably aren’t looking for freemium combat games. Never tried it, myself.
Great little history of a neat little ship. I always liked the way the Constellation class looked. "We are forced to abandon our starship. May she find her way without us."
I always felt like the the Stargazer / Constellation class ships were originally built as heavy cruisers with redundant back up systems for optimal combat survival. We know 4 warp nacelles didn’t make any ship faster then two. But if damage taken you can guarantee you could still have warp capability. As well with on the star gazer as you pointed out it had the same impulse drives just turned sideways and there was two. As well as two forward torpedo launchers. In all honesty this was a ship designed for combat and survivability. Of course like most military projects just because of all the redundancy in systems would have made it a resource heavy and costly ship to produce. So not surprised starfleet would have gone back to ships with only 2 warp nacelles. Came down to quantity over quality. Anyways just my two sense. Still one of my favourite ships in cannon though.
Man, you're channel is the only Star Trek channel on TH-cam that I like. You pay close attention to a lot of details, more then I ever have. You get things right so you do your homework, you think things through logically, and you keep logical and calm when replying to comments.
Mr. Aldrich That was actually the silver Constitution style ship also mentioned in this episode. It showed up in several other places and is a distinct variant, with nacelles mounted sideways and with dark panels across the edge of the saucer. Possibly shuttle/cargo bays like the Stargazer had.
Yeah. It’s a big one. And the warp gondolas are thicker. Thicker and girthier. Also the saucer section is thicker and bigger. It’s all big and girthy. Also the shuttle bay is a much bigger cavernous opening. It’s a huge orifice. For incoming ships. I am only describing the design of the ship... Nothing else.
I love the level of detail you go into on all of your videos. Also love how you always manage to squeeze some laughs in as well. Keep up the good work man!
I love Star Trek, how did I not notice the rocks!? I guess I was distracted by the exploding consoles. I’m always like don’t they have fuse boxes in the future?
power is transferred in the form of plasma (hence, plasma conduits). Makes things nice and explodey when ships get damaged in battles. Nice forward-thinking, advanced design.
I got it, and was very disapointed. The Saucer is Flatter then it should be. Its as flat as if it was a Constitution class saucer.. but the Contellation class saucer is very thick.. like 3 times a s thick.. Other then that, it wasn't bad.
I like how you get into the details about set design. I can imagine crew and producers scrambling and cobbling together different sets from whatever materials they could use to make this one generic room look different from week to week. It's basically kitbashing sets.
Always happy to see JB make a new video. They always expertly ride the line of giving extremely detailed info about how the show was made and the lore but without taking it all too seriously making it very entertaining.
Rocks! Today there is a type of insulation sometimes called rock wool insulation. It is highly efficient, fire proof and made of rock mineral the same way they make fiberglass insulation. It comes in stiff batts that can cut to fit but can not be bent much. Considering the cold of space and the high energy surges that happen when energy weapons get through the shields and contact the ship, Star Fleet most assuredly uses something similar. Not only would it help prevent and control the spread of fire it would probably act like a ablative armor for the interior by requiring an explosive energy discharge to break through the insulation before being released into the compartment.
You should really have more subs man, because this is another well researched, well written and well produced piece of quality content with a notch of humor. Keep it up!
22 (!!) years, and Picard never even talks about it properly except in this episode. This was practically his home? All those characters and friends / comrades he must have had on this ship? Not one word.
Having Picard captain a Constitution-class ship would have been amazing. What a great callback it would have been if that Connie-class had been the USS New Jersey, the only remaining Constitution-class in the Picard era.
Never drink V8 juice while watching this episode and hearing " 80's puke green wall mat" not good coming out my nose from laughing so hard! And of course this episode ROCKS!!
I found a ball of junk under my sofa. And then it reminded me to watch these videos again. Because of junkball... did you get it? Junkball... just Genius!
I like the fact that they were using the movie sets and graphics from the movies. Made sense, really, since they were filming Star Trek V at roughly the same time. Those guys never threw anything away.
@Antony Mort Yes, you definitely have a good nerd moment when you try to explain to your wife the intricacies of pretty flute music in a Star Trek episode reference. Lol I feel you man. Lol!
Kelvinverse haters: the people that made these movies never even watched star trek! Kelvinverse creators: lets put in so many references to the rest of the franchise it will literally drive any halfway attentive fan insane!
Yeah know, I'm really impressed with your production value of your videos.. its genuinely enjoyable viewing and listening just from the quality of the production.. then you do awesome research, and release a video that immerses me in the Star Trek universe and experience
So there seems to be a 9 year gap between Picard captaining the stargazer and the enterprise. Has it ever been mentioned what he commanded in those years?
THERE ARR FOUR WARP NACELLS
Arrrrrrr! Ye got dat right matey! Arrr and shiver me timbers!
Kek
Quality reference
You arr rightt matey! Four warp nacelles and no Michelles 🤣
Remember when the Ferengi were supposed to be the new Klingons lol. Picard should’ve just offered them gold-pressed latinum - The Picard Transaction.
...haha hencr forth i will always call this episode the picard transaction
I really want to see Captain Picard to pull out a small 24th century checkbook or some sort of Federation Credit Card to complete that transaction.
I think that was why they attacked, actually. Bok's son, I think his name was Flax, discovered that the Federation didn't use currency after the USS Stargazer happened upon them as they were both conducting a survey of the location (it had a large deposit of dilithium, hence the Ferengi interest). He thought the Federation was insane because of it and proceeded to attack the USS Stargazer.
The book also explains why the Ferengi were considered so dangerous in the early days: the Grand Nagus also thought the lack of currency was a sign of insanity and actively built up the military strength and had rumours spread deliberately to put themselves into a stronger position once the Federation made full contact.
@@KingofStrawberries that is quite the interesting take, i like it
@@KingofStrawberries so basically it's a type of....capitalist fundamentalism? Maybe??
it's a Prostitution-class ship.
Captain Riker is hailing us.
Oh my god..that was fucking great! They should've commissioned a Statutory-class for Kirk.
Pimpin' ain't easy
Oh come on, Riker don't pay for nothing!
Riker's going to slave 20 of his bilateral kelilacterils into its primary Heisenfram terminal. He's going to blow up its entire firomantel drive.
I'll be in the holodeck.
“For you, it was the Battle of Maxia. But for me, it was Tuesday.”
It was Tuesday. Now tea and cookies anyone?
@@JEDAI501ST I'm munching on cookies now. It's a Friday night.
@@-Joyfull with earl grey tea?!
@@-Joyfull - ¡5:25 PM Pacific Daylight Savings Time on Saturday, 3 August 2019!
"Whistling on a Tuesday, Jester"
USS Constellation, an 1850s sloop of war, was rebuilt and is now on display in Baltimore. Coincidentally, USS Constitution is also still around, and is famously berthed in Boston.
The Stargazer is the Chicago deep dish pizza of Starships.
I love how you point out the rocks... Every time. Even as a kid I would scratch my head at that.
Why doesn't Eaglemoss make replicas?
Replicas? Of the rocks?
They should
Pop Rocks. Like the pop rocks candy that explode in your mouth. They pop out of exploding consoles and control panels.
I would 100% buy tiny replica Star Trek Bridge Rocks (TM).
I think that will be my new online business: starship damage rocks, and tribbles.
The silver Constitution class model in Picard's ready room was there because the effects team were using the yellow Constellation set prop as a study model for building the shooting model, and they needed something to fill that space. The set prop was a combination of AMT Enterprise kit parts and parts from several Anime model kits.
The humor is so perfect. I can't get enough. Am I the only one who wants a Stargazer prequel show at some point? (Of course only if they can find an actor good enough to play a younger Picard, as hard as that may be)
We’ve had like three young Picards! All were pretty good too.
They can just deep fake his face on. Or build an android. What if the first real androids were replicas of the TNG cast?
James McAvoy has *technically* already played a younger Patrick Stewart as Professor X, so I would vote him!
@@chrisc1140 He's done a damned fine job of it so ya.
@@chrisc1140 yeah, McAvoy could do the job. Bring it on
This is a good morning. I have my coffee, I have my toast with REAL BUTTER. I have a new Junkball. Life is good.
Sounds wonderful.
I can’t believe it’s better...
Agreed
Real butter and real cheese.. Something most Americans never get to eat 🧀😉
Savage Historian we have real cheese, American cheese
Can I say this video.....ROCKS!
The Stargazer, when starfleet engineers scraped the ship design barrel for ugly ideas. " yes, No. 1, my old command, Stargazer, we used to call her ...... old deep dish ".
@@johnbockelie3899 Deep Dish class
I have an idea on the "rocks". Maybe the bridge is well insulated with something like glass foam insulation and when they receive damage it breaks apart into rock like chunks. Need that insulation for when you lose life support. Would prolong the crew for a while before freezing to death. Just a thought, look it up.
If you look back to TOS episode the Balance of terror there is a scene when they explain what plasma does to whatever metal is used in ship construction. Those "rocks" are probably pieces of metal, melted bcz of plasma conduits overloading.
That kind of stuff never bothered me. Don’t know if that’s the popular opinion or unpopular one.
that's not rocks... that's whatever plastic they use to make the layer that covers the bulkheads.
that carpet they step on, on the bridge? probably that stuff underneath it.
those metal strips running around the outer rim of the bridge of the E? that stuff in between them.
the roof panels? that's not wood, that's probably that stuff.
What you mean is ablative armour... that’s a thing. Maybe for, wait for it... Junkball? Maybe junkball should make a video about ablative armour that turns into balls of junk on impact on the bridge.
And yes. I am a genius. Just a very dumb one.
Your videos are more informative and better structured than the entire star wars sequel trilogy
True
or std
milcoll73, Or Picard.
Science fiction needs nerds to work.
*"Prostitution Class Ship"*
Sounds Fun !
NCC 7100 DD :P
lmfao xD
I would board that ship
@@HauntedXXXPancake NCC 6969 :-P
Sounds like that first boat of female prisoners sent to Australia to join the other men. On the way they started making money by whoring the boat out and... by disembarking at Australia they were halfway pregnant already.
The Constellation Class Starship is a beauty. Some may call her Fugly, but she has her charms perhaps more so than the Constitution class in a way - and I am obsessed with the Consitution class.
She's fugly but she's got it where it counts...
I love the design of the Constellation Class, I think it's probably my favourite in the whole series.
Literally got an ad for star trek timelines that showcased a constellation class for this vid
twenty one cries for help Hard to believe that anyone who wants lots of explosive ship combat would recognize the class. The old fans that know of the Stargazer probably aren’t looking for freemium combat games. Never tried it, myself.
the algorythm is strong with this one
Great little history of a neat little ship. I always liked the way the Constellation class looked.
"We are forced to abandon our starship. May she find her way without us."
These vids are a blessing to my feed, I live for the funky music and comedically presented lore!
The fact that anyone can tolerate my bloated videos is a blessing to me. Thank you.
I always felt like the the Stargazer / Constellation class ships were originally built as heavy cruisers with redundant back up systems for optimal combat survival. We know 4 warp nacelles didn’t make any ship faster then two. But if damage taken you can guarantee you could still have warp capability. As well with on the star gazer as you pointed out it had the same impulse drives just turned sideways and there was two. As well as two forward torpedo launchers. In all honesty this was a ship designed for combat and survivability. Of course like most military projects just because of all the redundancy in systems would have made it a resource heavy and costly ship to produce. So not surprised starfleet would have gone back to ships with only 2 warp nacelles. Came down to quantity over quality.
Anyways just my two sense. Still one of my favourite ships in cannon though.
Older the ship, more warp coils needed.
than*
Starfleet also built other 4 nacelle designs, most notably the Cheyenne and Prometheus classes.
It's a combat ship for sure. They made efficient ones in the future, like: The Defiant
Man, you're channel is the only Star Trek channel on TH-cam that I like. You pay close attention to a lot of details, more then I ever have. You get things right so you do your homework, you think things through logically, and you keep logical and calm when replying to comments.
The original little yellow model on set was a store bought model put together by Gene Roddenberrys son.
I forget what documentary I was watching when Gene Jr. Was talking about it.
Mr. Aldrich That was actually the silver Constitution style ship also mentioned in this episode. It showed up in several other places and is a distinct variant, with nacelles mounted sideways and with dark panels across the edge of the saucer. Possibly shuttle/cargo bays like the Stargazer had.
How could he put together a model of a ship not introduced yet
The_Gaming_Syndrom Well technically the silver ship was both store bought AND a type that didn’t yet exist. Kitbashing you know.
The video provides the correct information on who kitbashed the original.
I always felt like the Stargazer looked mighty impressive. More ships like this and maybe the Romulans wouldn't have dared to mess with Starfleet.
Frankly they don't mess with Starfleet that much. If the numbers are ever even, the Romulans are heading home without a fight.
Yeah. It’s a big one. And the warp gondolas are thicker. Thicker and girthier. Also the saucer section is thicker and bigger. It’s all big and girthy. Also the shuttle bay is a much bigger cavernous opening. It’s a huge orifice. For incoming ships. I am only describing the design of the ship... Nothing else.
@@rexremedy1733 Riiight.
3Rayfire hahahahaha
Yep. Beefy saucer makes more sense with added decks and hangars
I like the Constellation class, it's quite intimidating in my opinion.
It has always looked like its a tough old ship to me.
Your naration is much more relaxed than Daniel from spacedock. Keep up the good work. Don't ever start jump cut editing the vocals.
Daniel has an arrogant-I know-this-sh!t-better-than-you sound,
Which he is often wrong
I find that that observation is usually projection.
@@ThanatoselNyx no it isn't
Does anyone else watch the 'TriAngulum Audio Studios' Trek videos? He covers different things, but I like his Trek Talk series.
I love the level of detail you go into on all of your videos. Also love how you always manage to squeeze some laughs in as well. Keep up the good work man!
Thanks. Alway look forward to a new Junkball.
I cannot express the joy I feel when I see one of these videos pop up in my feed.
I'm honored and glad you enjoy them... weirdo.
Not weird, they are classy
@@JunkBallMedia EEEEEEEEEEE !!!
I love Star Trek, how did I not notice the rocks!? I guess I was distracted by the exploding consoles. I’m always like don’t they have fuse boxes in the future?
power is transferred in the form of plasma (hence, plasma conduits). Makes things nice and explodey when ships get damaged in battles. Nice forward-thinking, advanced design.
is there an Eaglemoss model for the Stargazer?
There is. I shot some b-roll video of the Eaglemoss mode thinking I’d use it in this video, but since TNG is in HD I didn’t. It’s fairly nice.
I got it, and was very disapointed. The Saucer is Flatter then it should be. Its as flat as if it was a Constitution class saucer.. but the Contellation class saucer is very thick.. like 3 times a s thick.. Other then that, it wasn't bad.
Yes
@@pepperVenge I like to imagine the stargazer is two Constitutions stacked with the nacelles swapped.
@@HarleyQuinn-ol8ex
Apt
Great video, its always a good day when I see a new junkball uploaded.
Fictional history of the stargazer? You want to tell me that star trek isn't real?
Man, those Eugenics Wars 30 years ago sure hit us hard.
We all know Star Trek is a factual documentary.
axenledgie the sovereign one Yes, 1996 is a year none of us will ever forget. Glad they caught those freaks.
WAIT IT"S NOT!!!,,,, HOLY SHIT!
That Khan Noonien Singh was a real terror back in the 90s! Then he just disappeared!
This is one of your best videos! I love the stuff about the ship class changing in post!
I like how you get into the details about set design. I can imagine crew and producers scrambling and cobbling together different sets from whatever materials they could use to make this one generic room look different from week to week. It's basically kitbashing sets.
Always happy to see JB make a new video. They always expertly ride the line of giving extremely detailed info about how the show was made and the lore but without taking it all too seriously making it very entertaining.
Great video. The Constellation Class is a fave of mine, really glad to see you give it the once over!
Nice video man! Love when you come out with new stuff. Makes my day
Thanks for all the video times. I hope you can some day make a video about that time Wesley Crusher hated Pewdiepie.
That happened? I gotta do some research.
Another great video thank you. I get so excited when I see you new vids on my feed :)
Rocks!
Today there is a type of insulation sometimes called rock wool insulation. It is highly efficient, fire proof and made of rock mineral the same way they make fiberglass insulation. It comes in stiff batts that can cut to fit but can not be bent much.
Considering the cold of space and the high energy surges that happen when energy weapons get through the shields and contact the ship, Star Fleet most assuredly uses something similar. Not only would it help prevent and control the spread of fire it would probably act like a ablative armor for the interior by requiring an explosive energy discharge to break through the insulation before being released into the compartment.
I just had a junkball marathon on Sunday. Perfect timing for a new vid.
You my friend are a weirdo. I love it. Thanks for watching.
Dude, you’re great! I love your format, your humor, graphics, everything. Don’t change a thing! Great to see you back!
Thanks. I love making them; wish I could do them quicker.
Much love to you and your amazing channel and even more amazing viewers
You should really have more subs man, because this is another well researched, well written and well produced piece of quality content with a notch of humor. Keep it up!
This video is none of those things, but thank you.
Star Trek: Rise of Stargazer! I'd totally watch that! (Unlike a certain similarly titled movie...)
NEW JUNKBALL TRANSMISSION = TOIIIIIIIGHT! ❤️
ROCKS! and the music. I have been rewatching several videos by JUNKBALL. The evolution of the ROCKS! scene is brilliant. Thanks!
Ha... thanks. Yeah, it's cheesy, but I always try to top the previous Rocks Montage. I think it may've peaked with the Titan A video.
Excellent vid, as always
It's Junkball, baby! Junkball!
I KNOW, RIGHT!!!
Back to great content. Well done
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22 (!!) years, and Picard never even talks about it properly except in this episode. This was practically his home? All those characters and friends / comrades he must have had on this ship? Not one word.
Not a people person
Can you imagine in Star Trek Picard, he stole the Stargazer out of some mothball fleet? That would be pretty cool.
But would he start crying about, how he was an evil cis, hu-white, male Colonizer for not letting the misunderstood Ferenghi of color blow him up ?
Who else would like to see a prequel series based on a younger Picard's time spend on the Stargazer?
Mike DeMarco Tom Hardy might be too expensive. Maybe try his look alike, Logan Marshall-Green 😂😂
Man, the USS Stargazer model is one of my favorites, it's fantastic.
Love this channel.
That's one of my favorite episodes and I never put together that she warped like the movie series
FINALLY got home from work. Been wanting to watch this episode ALL DAY!!! #ILOVEJUNKBALL
I hope you enjoyed it.
Man, I love your stuff.
"Bartender!! I would like a Stargazer on the rocks!!"
Awesome video Bud keep them coming
Having Picard captain a Constitution-class ship would have been amazing. What a great callback it would have been if that Connie-class had been the USS New Jersey, the only remaining Constitution-class in the Picard era.
A distinct pleasure as always!
Never drink V8 juice while watching this episode and hearing " 80's puke green wall mat" not good coming out my nose from laughing so hard! And of course this episode ROCKS!!
Wonderful as always!
Love this detailed analysis. It.. ROCKS
I found a ball of junk under my sofa. And then it reminded me to watch these videos again. Because of junkball... did you get it? Junkball... just Genius!
I like your retro style, man! Subscribed.
Glorious junkball content
loved your videos like ever
I'm actually glad they did you the model from Picard's ready room as the inspiration for the design. It gives weight to this random model begin there.
Very detailed analysis! Thank you!
Thank you for your permission to touch your buttons. Your videos are great solace in these trying times.
I like the fact that they were using the movie sets and graphics from the movies. Made sense, really, since they were filming Star Trek V at roughly the same time. Those guys never threw anything away.
refreshing video once again! thanks!
Stunning level of research and knowledge! :-)
I LOVE your channel!!!
The flute music hit me rollin. Very funny!
@Antony Mort Yes, you definitely have a good nerd moment when you try to explain to your wife the intricacies of pretty flute music in a Star Trek episode reference. Lol I feel you man. Lol!
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The whole suite.
Great video.
My mind is honestly BLOWN by that Stargazer reference in Beyond!
Kelvinverse haters: the people that made these movies never even watched star trek!
Kelvinverse creators: lets put in so many references to the rest of the franchise it will literally drive any halfway attentive fan insane!
I love you junkball media, your videos are like cakes. Its not often when you have them, but its always to celebrate something
Awesome video!
Inner light over top of rocks.
Aw man that's just... You can't beat it
At the 7:00 minute mark one of my old time favorite Italodisco songs from 1985/86- Ken Laszlo: “Tonight”
Yeah know, I'm really impressed with your production value of your videos.. its genuinely enjoyable viewing and listening just from the quality of the production.. then you do awesome research, and release a video that immerses me in the Star Trek universe and experience
I love everything you do!
Much appreciated.
No, the appreciation is ours
Great video!
Thank you! I really needed this video!
You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.
that "I never heard it referred to so dramatically before" joke just about killed me, thanks :D
stay in the LOO, if you want... I'm always happy to see a new upload!!
This might be the best episode of Junkball yet. But you already knew that.
No really. YOU are awesome and so is your channel. Thank YOU!!!
Stargazer 2893?….. that’s way more festive than I picked up on. Well done!
No mention of the giant robot on the bottom of the ship? Just in front of the lower warp nacelle strut.
G.V. Serac Excuse me, It's a GUUUNNDDDAAAAMMMMM!!!!
So there seems to be a 9 year gap between Picard captaining the stargazer and the enterprise. Has it ever been mentioned what he commanded in those years?
HE IS BACK!
Love the chunkiness of the Constellation class. It’s my favorite ship in the federation.
Good website. Loved the Stargazer episode.
A junkball media production 🍾🍸🍹🥂🥳
Yes quite 🧐
Glad you like it. This one has been sitting in my notes app on my phone for months. I'm glad it's finally done.
Brilliant
Really enjoyed this one!