@@ebsell I am thinking the same thing. I ride with about 20 doos. I bought a 19 rush , thing is sick but I think I want to go to something a little more comfy. 2020 gade 850 is prolly what I will settle with. I have one on order. But it is a toss up for the 600r. Don't need an 850 for trails we ride.
It seems to me you guys strike a hard line between what's worth reviewing off-trail and on-trail, but the 137 skid is still billed as cross-over. Skidoo even markets Gades as such. I would have liked to hear how this things feels off-trail for those that love off-trail, but spend more time on trail or value the on-trail ride. The fact that you can get 1.6 lug tracks on these things indicates they are meant for occassional off-trail.
On the fence between 2 & 4 stroke...only negative I see, if you can call it that, is the added weight and the additional cost of the Turbo setup. Great review thanks!
So its about false advertising on doo then. We sold more??? Then reality kicked in when yammie blue smoked you. So if its just about sales I see why now when I go by the bars all the doo owners run around and look when they hear my yammie coming. Wish I had a dallor every time that has happened. Makes me smile you don't want any of this. Want to know something she has 7200 miles on her and she was made in in 2014 and still stomps..
Jana Barber Except you know that doo does sell the most sleds every year, they have for the last 20. Of course it’s going to stick together longer it’s a 4 stroke. Now the 4 stroke doo just like the 600 is bulletproof
Riding them back to back. the nytro rtx vs 900t xrs the 900 feels much lighter and is not as tied down and is way more playful on the 900. pulls harder all the way through in a drag too.
ACE..... Always Chattering Everywhere! 600/900/1200’s “Brake Chatter” Since 2015! When will BRP address this issue? I know so many owners who have sold their sleds because of “ Brake Chatter” between 38-42 MPH, .....I’ll take a Yamaha or Cat 4 stroke ANYTIME, before I invest in another BRP 4 stroke again, TURBO or NON-TURBO❗️
Whether you love them or hate them, 4-strokes are the future. Once they are made lighter, there will be no reason to run an unreliable 2-stroke motor anymore.
440x because they are heavy. Once they make a 4-stroke motor that is as light as a 2 stroke, why would you want all of the hassle of riding a 2 stroke? Some riders don’t want to worry about rebuilding the engine every couple years.
440x because they are heavy. Once they make a 4-stroke motor that is as light as a 2 stroke, why would you want all of the hassle of riding a 2 stroke? Some riders don’t want to worry about rebuilding the engine every couple years.
Matthew Humenansky very few riders Yamaha already has engines that are almost as light make huge power but they almost can’t give them away the 4 stroke market is a utility / touring market sales numbers show that the direct injected 2 stroke killed any chance the 4 stroke had in the performance market
I somewhat agree. Ever-tightening environmental standards will change things before anything else. Initially, I see the 4 stroke as the future, but if companys can satisfy enviro regulations and durability concerns on their 2strokes, then 2strokes won't go away.
You ended this clip by saying 600 riders might want to move to the 900, as if it were in the same general category. Apparently money is no object to you, $3,000+ to me makes it a totally different category. Jeez
@@calebm.5698 But it was cheaper, more reliable, and probably better on belts and maintenance. There are markets for people who want NA 4-strokes and Turbo 4-strokes. The 900ace docent fit the NA bill.
Have the 900 Ace in my Skandic. These great motors. Quiet, torquey, efficient, little oil use, nice ergos. Turbo oh yeah!
I had a 2018 850 XRS last year and a 2019 900 turbo XRS this year and love it. The turbo holds its own against the 850 Doo and Polaris.
Wasup Fool what did u like better
xore because i can afford it and like trying something new. Next year is looking like an 850 XCR Polaris
@@ebsell I am thinking the same thing. I ride with about 20 doos. I bought a 19 rush , thing is sick but I think I want to go to something a little more comfy. 2020 gade 850 is prolly what I will settle with. I have one on order. But it is a toss up for the 600r. Don't need an 850 for trails we ride.
the 900turbo has been benchmarked in Sweden at mcx. did produce 160hp stock.
Rotax does that with all of their engines, they underestimate them so they always reach standards. The 850 runs 173+ on the Dyno consistently.
Great review, well done. Ordering my 2020 next week in Manta Green.
It seems to me you guys strike a hard line between what's worth reviewing off-trail and on-trail, but the 137 skid is still billed as cross-over. Skidoo even markets Gades as such. I would have liked to hear how this things feels off-trail for those that love off-trail, but spend more time on trail or value the on-trail ride. The fact that you can get 1.6 lug tracks on these things indicates they are meant for occassional off-trail.
Vlad Matejka not this model tho. Way way too heavy being a 4 stroke
On the fence between 2 & 4 stroke...only negative I see, if you can call it that, is the added weight and the additional cost of the Turbo setup.
Great review thanks!
Steve B and a seasonal pain in the ass oil change.
Come on you’re killing me I need to see the expedition extreme ripping get the boys on it please
They have already made a behind the scenes / handson video
Awesome review
Another reason Ski Doo is at the top of the heap. They deliver in every market segment.
What are people getting for mpg ?
sounds great. not too loud
Interesting analog with 600cc buyers .. Im there for a XC/Trail sled ... this would be nice other than the price
Can u do a review on the xcr switchback 600
Doo sold as many Turbos as Yamaha and Cat put together, so I’d say it was a sales success.
wasup fool please answer my question your posts about polaris 850 are fake not true right
old&slow This has nothing to do with Poo....
So its about false advertising on doo then. We sold more??? Then reality kicked in when yammie blue smoked you. So if its just about sales I see why now when I go by the bars all the doo owners run around and look when they hear my yammie coming. Wish I had a dallor every time that has happened. Makes me smile you don't want any of this. Want to know something she has 7200 miles on her and she was made in in 2014 and still stomps..
Jana Barber Except you know that doo does sell the most sleds every year, they have for the last 20. Of course it’s going to stick together longer it’s a 4 stroke. Now the 4 stroke doo just like the 600 is bulletproof
Jana Barber what are you? 12 or something lol.
So I understand this correctly, he is saying the 900 Turbo is =< an 850 in power/speed?
Sethalos it’s pretty close, but not quite as fast
How do these new trail sleds compare to the FX Nytro?
Riding them back to back. the nytro rtx vs 900t xrs the 900 feels much lighter and is not as tied down and is way more playful on the 900. pulls harder all the way through in a drag too.
It sounds so much better irl
What about that throttle they invented?? Turbo lags not the only problem. Maybe that's a safety thing?????
ACE..... Always Chattering Everywhere! 600/900/1200’s “Brake Chatter” Since 2015! When will BRP address this issue? I know so many owners who have sold their sleds because of “ Brake Chatter” between 38-42 MPH, .....I’ll take a Yamaha or Cat 4 stroke ANYTIME, before I invest in another BRP 4 stroke again, TURBO or NON-TURBO❗️
Odd... NEVER an issue... maybe I gkt lucky? - my first ever doo and it seems fine. Goes like hell stops without issue... perhaps owner issue?
Still no yamaha sidewinder
It’s hardly any heavier. Maybe 30lbs.
Erwin Rommel that’s a lot in terms of snowmobiles, and it’s closer to 55 pounds heavier
Change the pipe
Maybe Santa will bring one for me
"Will it run with the 800s... maybe." Give me a break. Its faster than the 850. It's a fact not an opinion.
that face you make the first time you square up on a lake against the yammie, and you get your headlight yoinked.
Can't even show under the hood?
Whether you love them or hate them, 4-strokes are the future. Once they are made lighter, there will be no reason to run an unreliable 2-stroke motor anymore.
Matthew Humenansky have u looked at sales numbers ?? 4 strokes are a niche market at best
440x because they are heavy. Once they make a 4-stroke motor that is as light as a 2 stroke, why would you want all of the hassle of riding a 2 stroke? Some riders don’t want to worry about rebuilding the engine every couple years.
440x because they are heavy. Once they make a 4-stroke motor that is as light as a 2 stroke, why would you want all of the hassle of riding a 2 stroke? Some riders don’t want to worry about rebuilding the engine every couple years.
Matthew Humenansky very few riders Yamaha already has engines that are almost as light make huge power but they almost can’t give them away the 4 stroke market is a utility / touring market sales numbers show that the direct injected 2 stroke killed any chance the 4 stroke had in the performance market
I somewhat agree. Ever-tightening environmental standards will change things before anything else. Initially, I see the 4 stroke as the future, but if companys can satisfy enviro regulations and durability concerns on their 2strokes, then 2strokes won't go away.
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You ended this clip by saying 600 riders might want to move to the 900, as if it were in the same general category. Apparently money is no object to you, $3,000+ to me makes it a totally different category. Jeez
hot00stuff that’s nothing in terms of snowmobiles. I know lots of 600 riders who have 5-10 thousand dollar snowmobiles
Why do all the new ski-doo's look like darkwing ducks face? Am I the only one that sees this?
Skidoo... Give us back the 1200 4-tec. Thanks, Every skidoo rider.
K C it was heavier, slower, and worse on gas. It also had terrible throttle lag.
@@calebm.5698 But it was cheaper, more reliable, and probably better on belts and maintenance. There are markets for people who want NA 4-strokes and Turbo 4-strokes. The 900ace docent fit the NA bill.
How can you say there is no throttle hesitation? It has a ridiculous amount of throttle hesitation.
I have a 2020 900T and zero hesitation