_"...you don't understand why someone would leave religion?"_ _"No not religion, the truth."_ That single line reveals precisely why he doesn't understand.
@@naturalisted1714 He had some fixation that DNA can be interpreted as a " pre-existing written word", which is either stretching a metaphor past the breaking point or misunderstanding some basic facts. I'm really unclear on what his written word pre-exists. Well I'm unclear on most of what he was trying to say. He may have had some ideas, but failed to communicate them clearly.
I gave up trying to make sense of the rambling, chaotic, thoughts of callers. Obedience to an invisible, unknowable god causes mental chaos because it interferes with your own decision making.
I distinctly recall re-watching that episode You know that post that pops up on social media periodically about _Who would you have narrate your life, Morgan Freeman not being an option_ ? I always cite Seth as my choice (with the footnote that I'm aware the reader doesn't know who he is but he's an excellent choice)
Theism is a mind/body problem as they think minds can be independent of brains. Disembodied minds AKA spirits/gods act upon/control matter. Matter has specificity of action as an integral aspect not needing an external controller.
The callers choice of words and the way he phrases his loaded question already proves that he is completely close minded, and that his question is not an actual question he wants to hear an actual answer to. He has called in to preach, and that is what he does. He is a theists of the worst kind. But there is good news: He is also the kind of theist that creates many new atheists with his close minded approach.
oh yeah. christians who actually use their brains, when its called for, would see how fast their position crumbles in arguments while taking these all in.
@@capitalb5889 What's interesting to me is this "we". It doesn't include the scientists who study this stuff, it doesn't include people who have opinions or information he doesn't like, so...
@@peterwyetzner5276 - yes. Science is thrown out of the window yet some vaguely pseudo scientific language is retained ("observed"). But there is no evidence behind it, just superstitious belief.
This assertion that human cells contained written commands is a complete misunderstanding of what DNA is. It began with scientists poetically describing DNA as a code or blueprint for life and people running with this type of description to the false assumption it is a program, requiring a programmer. The fact is, DNA is a string of nucleotides, which we have given names to. We have then shortened the names to just the first letters (CAGT) in order to document the sequences in which they occur. When you see the string of letters it looks like a code, but the code is descriptive, not prescriptive. A good analogy would be if we took a random section of forest and identified trees up to 5ft tall as A, those up to 10ft tall as B, etc. If we then noted how many As, Bs, Cs, etc were in a each 10ft square, we would end up with something that looked like a code, which describes the pattern of trees in the forest. It would not mean the tree layout was pre-planned or layed out with any intention and it would not make the code a "written command" for the growth of trees.
It really is an extension of the anthropocentrism inherent in Christianity as well... if you step outside it, you can understand that the labels we give to things aren't a fact of their existence. They are our own creation. But if I'm following this guy's argument (granted, that's a big if), he probably thinks God named them and we just discovered what the names were!
@@sad_doggo2504 yes, I'm coming to believe it is exactly what you say: they seem to think everything we know was discovered written down or as an actual object, something god made.. ..like we couldn't be wrong about the second law of thermodynamics which then wouldn't prove that their god exists.
That comment "please don't stutter" was more than enough for me to categorize him. No capacity for compassion seems to run deep in religion - a sure indication that whatever comes out the mouth is dogma.
@@keepdancingmaria The Muppet Show was intelligent and witty, this guy wouldn't qualify for a guest-spot on Sesame Street so Kermit could teach him the difference between a two dimensional circle and a three-dimensional sphere.
Which is more plausible? 1) Humans write books and lie about things in it. Or 2) An unconditional uncaused causer caused the entire conditioned caused universe and everything in it with a plan for everyone and everything.
It's part of being human, one of the many biases produced by our brains in an attempt to keep our ego intact. We're all guilty of it to a greater or lesser extent, thinking we aren't is simply another symptom of the same bias. I recommend reading Dave McRaney's "You Are Not So Smart", it's a really good view of how our brains basically trick us at every turn.
@@digbycrankshaft7572 _"no they don't"_ Yes, they do. Theory of mind is a human _(and maybe some animals)_ rational type of abstract thinking. It is developmental, not instinctual. It is when one generates a 'theory' that another individual has a 'mind' and includes the knowledge that others' beliefs, desires, intentions, emotions, and thoughts may be *_different_* from one's own. It requires thought and effort. Remember, brains burn calories and 'thinking is hard.' TL:DR, Everyone also poops their pants by default. They have to learn - _and_ try - not to.
This poor man has never in his life asked the question why, not once. His language is so common of someone who has literally only obeyed and never questioned a thing in his life.
He’s trying to sneak his lie into the argument. By calling religion the truth, he’s hoping to dodge his burden of proof since he didn’t state that lie. Like many children, he believes that if he didn’t state it, he doesn’t need to prove it.🤤
What always gets me, is how everytime the topic of "Am I going to hell if I'm an atheist?" comes into conversation, when people are deeply religious and decent human beings at the same time, they start circling around the answer... You can see how they don't actually think you or (almost) anybody else belongs to hell and deserves eternal suffering. So they have to come up with some reason it doesn't have to happen, as an apology for their god so he wouldn't look like an absolute jerk.
@@TheTruthKiwi ..............................last we check, common sense in religion is abysmal. the fact that they entrust their entire salvation of souls on pinning it on a single person and then killing him as offering to a god, it simply shows that christian dogma is still on par with that of the aztecs and old world religion that thrive on human sacrifice... and they still wouldn't admit that their religion is based on human sacrifice, when they have a man pinned on a cross on every place of worship they have.... one aspect the aztecs have is that they never claimed that their god was omni-everything.... aztec religion is at least several bajilion times more humble than christianity ever was or will be...
@@SongWhisperer well, you could say we evolved from single cell organisms so that is, in effect, how we originated initially. No one knows exactly how life originated but abiogenesis could explain it.
@@hakureikura9052 yup. It is baffling how people still believe in any religious dogma with all the facts and knowledge we have today. To keep believing they just have to reject facts and science altogether like this caller does. Very sad.
I just love the cognitive dissonance when you ask a believer if they think as an atheist (who is by all accounts a good person) are you going to hell and they have to dodge the question. "It's not up to me." Because they don't want you to go to hell. And the can't handle that that makes them morally superior to their own god. At least the ones who just say yes are being intellectually honest with themselves.
They can simply say 'nature', 'life processes' etc. They are claiming DNA is evidence of a teleological influence rather than natural selection, thus God. Personally, I think 'scaffolding' as a metaphor for DNA may be less susceptible to misunderstanding or intentional distortion than the word 'code'. Scaffolding is appropriately physical and code inappropriately suggests abstract, intentional instructions from a separate conscious entity, i.e. a programmer.
@@drg8687 It's a metaphor I personally chose because I think it is less confusing than the word "code". You won't find it in a search. There are likely better words experts in the field could use (and may have) if it mattered to them (it doesn't) that some are taking the word "code" literally rather than as a metaphor as it has been misapplied to describe the structure and function of DNA. Sorry for the confusion.
I often wonder if people like this HAD been raised secular, they could have gone into medical research and found the cure for cancer. How many potential people have we lost to change the world like that to religion? Raising your child to end up like this dude is disgraceful.
I'm not convinced that this guy is for real. His refusal to just say "DNA" to clarify what he is obviously talking about isn't credible. Seems like he was just drawing things out for as long as possible.
I was raised in a christian household (Mennonite to be exact) but I was a born again Christian from the time I was 15-24 (up until 6 months ago). The last 2 years before I gave up my faith fully filled me with so much turmoil, I thought because my faith was slipping that I would go to hell. I prayed every day for 2 years that god wouldn’t let me die until my faith was “fixed“. Any god that would put their believers through that much fear and heart ache, is a dick. I have an anxiety disorder so I became an absolute mess. I always wondered why god wouldn’t just come to me and SHOW me that he was real so that I could die knowing the truth and that I wouldn’t go to hell. When I finally went out and looked for the truth myself, it was to my relief that religion was man made and that there was ZERO evidence for a god. The relief I experienced was almost euphoric
A key omission in the titling at the bottom of the video is, I think, the source of all of the mistaken assessments of this caller. His actual name is George of the Jungle Jargon.
The moment he said “goat herders” I knew he was trolling, no religious person I know of has ever used that terminology to describe the people who wrote their beloved texts or who kept the oral tradition there of
Oh, he's not. Jungle Jargon is simply this weird and deeply, deeply deluded. I haven't heard of him in a while, this was a blast from the past, but back in the day he would spend hours upon hours upon hours on chats, writing comments and hanging around with other Christians, usually of the very low hanging fruit kind, spreading the same muddled ideas you hear here. Unless his was a deep fake kind of trolling that lasted for years on end, I think we can safely say that he is for real.
@@spacewizard69 let’s say I strongly suspected he wasn’t until the above reply identified him as a theist who frequently commented on atheist channels with absurd arguments
The religious reefer... the pious pipe... that christian crack... the holy heroin ... that sanctified sedative... a venerated Vicodin ... communion chronic ... orthodox opiate ... devotional dope
"why would anyone deny this?" Followed by "everything you do is determined by the commands written inside you"... Sounds like he already knows the answer.
The fact is that we're here because of the errors in the DNA replication process, bringing evolution. So, no, no creator wrote human DNA, it is the result of millions of years of DNA replications and mutations starting from the first cellular organism.
If he was trolling then he's got his voice acting down. He sounded pretty sincere but yeah, that was a trollish thing to say. I think he's just an old guy and is convinced the goat herders were devine genius's.
HE'S SAYING "WRITTEN INSIDE YOUR CELLS" not "YOURSELVES". The dumb part is that he doesn't have the intelligence to adjust his language to clarify what he means. Okay finally, he explains it when they dig hard enough to get him to explain.
@@oaktree2406 A poe is, in reference to Poe's Law, someone who only pretends to believe what they claim to believe, usually for the purpose of parody or trolling.
Jungle Jargon has two lists of phrases from a scenario he has been taught. His every response is to choose one from list #1 and another from list #2, at random. No thought process is involved, nor needed, nor allowed.
_"...you don't understand why someone would leave religion?"_
_"No not religion, the truth."_
That single line reveals precisely why he doesn't understand.
He also says we are all determined by the "word" written within us.
@@naturalisted1714 He had some fixation that DNA can be interpreted as a " pre-existing written word", which is either stretching a metaphor past the breaking point or misunderstanding some basic facts. I'm really unclear on what his written word pre-exists. Well I'm unclear on most of what he was trying to say.
He may have had some ideas, but failed to communicate them clearly.
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Thomas Davis : agreed, when a conversation starts like that, you know it's going to be circular pretty much from the start.
I wouldn’t sweat too hard about JJ or what he claims are his beliefs. He was one of the more tiresome G+ trolls.
Thomas Davis maybe it’s something of a Freudian slip?
The poor fellow. His indoctrination has totally shut down his brain.
Well all that means is that he has been prepared to be a true politician - very messed up !
@Paul Morgan Exactly. XD
Yeah dude, this guy is gone.
that's Funny
no, if he's dumb and uneducated enough to buy this crap that his probelm,
It's scary that its 2019 and people like this still exist.
December 2020 now and not only do they still exist but they are so much worse...
@@IheartChiroptera 2021 now, and people still thinking like this. Hopefully, things start healing within the country now.
@@sfvaitkus good thing is religion is dying and 100 years from now religion will be nonexistent it’ll probably be a history lesson
@@saucegodxx If we are still around to enjoy it in 100 years
That's an open question
@K C how do you think about your statement now after 2020? :D
Seth Andrews said it best: "Religion make [people] talk like idiots."
I gave up trying to make sense of the rambling, chaotic, thoughts of callers.
Obedience to an invisible, unknowable god causes mental chaos
because it interferes with your own decision making.
@R Hopzing Okay Jordan Peterson. All That Talk With Nothing Of Value 😂
I distinctly recall re-watching that episode
You know that post that pops up on social media periodically about _Who would you have narrate your life, Morgan Freeman not being an option_ ? I always cite Seth as my choice (with the footnote that I'm aware the reader doesn't know who he is but he's an excellent choice)
Fantastic book! I loved it.
I don’t know how anyone could read that book and not come out the other side at least half atheist!
@@samuelstone242Seth Andrews isn't smart enough to debate a smart Christian apologist.
"if he can fix it, and he doesn't... then he's an asshole". that is the perfect response. thank you for vocalizing that !
They will say "the wages of sin", "his ways are not our ways", "lean not unto thine own understanding" etc.
I'm glad "his ways are not our ways"... our ways are considerably less vindictive and cruel.
and if the "Wages of Sin are death" - for those of us real people, after taxes it's more of just an overall tired feeling.
@@elcarpe9186 100% agreed.. 💚
@@denbecr49 sure... the wages of sin are death... but after taxes is really just a tired feeling.
"I'm like 40% asleep at all times, that's why I sound like this"
I feel so sorry for the caller.
If he was created in God's image, religion is in big trouble.
Its just pure indoctrination.
Jungle Jargon is a Poe. He hasn't denied it when challenged.
Stop Believing Start Thinking I’d say he’s as shitty as his god, so they are the same.
@@jacketrussell He's been a Poe for at least a decade. Nobody has that much stamina.
Hope springs eternal.
People ask what harm religion does, and this is the proof it does lots of mental harm!!
'i can't explain how DNA could have come about, therefore my fairytale explains it best'. Basically Jargon's argument.
It's almost as if there should be a fallacy about being ignorant of something and putting an explanation forth in place of that ignorance.
he sounds like a troll
Argument from ignorance is a big one in most religions. We need to make it normal to say "I don't know".
Also, we’ve only even known DNA exists for less than 100 years, so that’s a very new argument that god exists.
Theism is a mind/body problem as they think minds can be independent of brains. Disembodied minds AKA spirits/gods act upon/control matter. Matter has specificity of action as an integral aspect not needing an external controller.
To answer his question:
One would leave "the truth" because his religion condemns people to hell.
or nothing in the bible is true
the goat herders from thousands of years ago CLEARLY are the experts that scientists wish they could be.
I think these herders were smarter than JJ, He makes no sense, AT ALL! He's lost.
I mean
The could whip up a sick goat stew!
🐐🥘 🤷♂️ 🍲😋
hey, golf was written by sheep herders...
@@cliftonmanley3882 exactly, when it has been proven that golf is the best way to ruin a good walk
think hes a troll
You guys were very generous to give this call 19 minutes. 19 seconds would also have been very generous.
If I hadn't listened to all 19 minutes, my IQ wouldn't have dropped 19 points.
Yeah, but... that's why we're here. This is exactly the type of caller that needs this kind of attention.It's a catch 22.
The callers choice of words and the way he phrases his loaded question already proves that he is completely close minded, and that his question is not an actual question he wants to hear an actual answer to. He has called in to preach, and that is what he does.
He is a theists of the worst kind.
But there is good news: He is also the kind of theist that creates many new atheists with his close minded approach.
A.Plosky exactly!
oh yeah. christians who actually use their brains, when its called for, would see how fast their position crumbles in arguments while taking these all in.
"CLOSED minded." Not "close."
Once again a caller made so happy that I don't have his Christian disease!!!
I think Jungle Jargon needs to stay off the jungle juice.
The name "Jungle Jargon" explains everything.
Whatever happened to Joe, Skip, or Larry?
🤣😅😅
Jungle Jargon is true to his moniker. He sounds like a bunch of jungle monkeys making noise but without making any sense.
This conversation wasn't going to go anywhere as long as his language about "written word in his body" was allowed.
I thought the same thing. No matter how often he had repeated it, it's not making any more sense now than it did the other 20 times before that.
"If I just keep saying 'pre existing written word', I'll surely win."
Don't forget to concantenate!
We've observed it!
@@capitalb5889 What's interesting to me is this "we". It doesn't include the scientists who study this stuff, it doesn't include people who have opinions or information he doesn't like, so...
@@peterwyetzner5276 - yes. Science is thrown out of the window yet some vaguely pseudo scientific language is retained ("observed"). But there is no evidence behind it, just superstitious belief.
Pre-existing before what?
"There is only one truth"
Proceeds to make a bunch of evidently false claims
That guy was painful to listen to, and that’s the truth. Read these written words.
Underrated comment.
Ha!
This comment is the truth and should be pinned. This guy is as ignorant as he is arrogant and deluded.
Observation!!
You guys have so much patience. I have no patience for complete stupidity.
This assertion that human cells contained written commands is a complete misunderstanding of what DNA is. It began with scientists poetically describing DNA as a code or blueprint for life and people running with this type of description to the false assumption it is a program, requiring a programmer.
The fact is, DNA is a string of nucleotides, which we have given names to. We have then shortened the names to just the first letters (CAGT) in order to document the sequences in which they occur. When you see the string of letters it looks like a code, but the code is descriptive, not prescriptive.
A good analogy would be if we took a random section of forest and identified trees up to 5ft tall as A, those up to 10ft tall as B, etc. If we then noted how many As, Bs, Cs, etc were in a each 10ft square, we would end up with something that looked like a code, which describes the pattern of trees in the forest. It would not mean the tree layout was pre-planned or layed out with any intention and it would not make the code a "written command" for the growth of trees.
If you measure a pebble, you made it..
It really is an extension of the anthropocentrism inherent in Christianity as well... if you step outside it, you can understand that the labels we give to things aren't a fact of their existence. They are our own creation. But if I'm following this guy's argument (granted, that's a big if), he probably thinks God named them and we just discovered what the names were!
@@sad_doggo2504 yes, I'm coming to believe it is exactly what you say: they seem to think everything we know was discovered written down or as an actual object, something god made..
..like we couldn't be wrong about the second law of thermodynamics which then wouldn't prove that their god exists.
It's the usual confusing the map for the tress problem that Christians have.
Seth Andrews says The Bible is "The Goatherder's Guide to the Universe."
to be fair the gospel of mark was written by an educated roman
It's scary that someone like this is allowed to vote...
Hmmmmm....
By the millions.
That comment "please don't stutter" was more than enough for me to categorize him. No capacity for compassion seems to run deep in religion - a sure indication that whatever comes out the mouth is dogma.
This is the kind of person who has never talked to an intelligent person in their entire life, nobody has ever called him out on his bullshit.
Complete misunderstanding of the DNA molecule model
Arrogance is not a good idea.pride goes before destruction.
Just incomprehension. He has no semblance of understanding. 🇦🇺👍
And quite a few other things, too, it seems
There’s is a character missing in the Muppet Show 😂
The muppets were never like this.
@@keepdancingmaria The Muppet Show was intelligent and witty, this guy wouldn't qualify for a guest-spot on Sesame Street so Kermit could teach him the difference between a two dimensional circle and a three-dimensional sphere.
@@Arkloyd I know. That's why I was asking the poster why he was dissing the Muppets.
@@keepdancingmaria Indeed, that caller belongs on Romper Room. (I've just dated myself…)
@@Arkloyd Heck, I can remember Romper Room. Andy Pandy, Bill & Ben okay..I am really dating myself badly.
It's almost impossible to win an argument opposing a genius. It's even harder to win an argument opposing an idiot.
That's what Mark Twain says.
Which is more plausible?
1) Humans write books and lie about things in it.
Or
2) An unconditional uncaused causer caused the entire conditioned caused universe and everything in it with a plan for everyone and everything.
"Universe farting Pixies" ~ Matt Dillahunty
"Those pixies died for you!!" - Jen Peeples
“ Yeah but the bible says.....”
Yup, and
1) An omnipotent entity from another dimension magically created everything out of nothing
Or
2) The natural universe originated naturally.
This was painful, where`s Matt when we need him?
This would have been even more painful with Matt on.
Yeah dude, Matt would've shut him down in a heartbeat and hung up on his condescending ass.
Funny how religious people assume everyone thinks like them.
Everyone does..
Religous people are indoctrinated. All they see is god doing and designing stuff.
It's part of being human, one of the many biases produced by our brains in an attempt to keep our ego intact. We're all guilty of it to a greater or lesser extent, thinking we aren't is simply another symptom of the same bias.
I recommend reading Dave McRaney's "You Are Not So Smart", it's a really good view of how our brains basically trick us at every turn.
@@Dr_Wrongno they don't
@@digbycrankshaft7572 _"no they don't"_
Yes, they do.
Theory of mind is a human _(and maybe some animals)_ rational type of abstract thinking. It is developmental, not instinctual.
It is when one generates a 'theory' that another individual has a 'mind' and includes the knowledge that others' beliefs, desires, intentions, emotions, and thoughts may be *_different_* from one's own.
It requires thought and effort.
Remember, brains burn calories and 'thinking is hard.'
TL:DR, Everyone also poops their pants by default.
They have to learn - _and_ try - not to.
I'm loving how this guy is trying to explain DNA and it's done so poorly that the hosts have no idea whatsoever what he's trying to get across.
Never heard the term "Written inside our cells" before and I spent 40 years in Church......
Miss Dave a lot 😔💙
Jungle Jargon is a simple mind repeating a key phrase they all say... "since I was a child"... ignorance is bliss.
Maybe for him, not that much for real people ......................
its incredible really.. that they haven't a CLUE that believing since childhood is the actual DEFINITION of "indoctrination"
This poor man has never in his life asked the question why, not once. His language is so common of someone who has literally only obeyed and never questioned a thing in his life.
Death game: take a shot everytime JJ says "pre-existing word"
20 people died trying to play to the end..... none got past 6:00.
wasted
I'm in. $1000 on me living. No account info upfront. Who's on board? 😅
It's 5 years later and I hope Dave is ok.
Some people's ignorance is breathtaking.
And then they get elected president. Go figure.
He’s trying to sneak his lie into the argument. By calling religion the truth, he’s hoping to dodge his burden of proof since he didn’t state that lie. Like many children, he believes that if he didn’t state it, he doesn’t need to prove it.🤤
Dave is a national treasure!!!!!!
Some people are wired from a young age, to not be able understand simple logic.
Its like slamming the lock shut on your brain.
Absolutely sad.
What always gets me, is how everytime the topic of "Am I going to hell if I'm an atheist?" comes into conversation, when people are deeply religious and decent human beings at the same time, they start circling around the answer... You can see how they don't actually think you or (almost) anybody else belongs to hell and deserves eternal suffering. So they have to come up with some reason it doesn't have to happen, as an apology for their god so he wouldn't look like an absolute jerk.
Love Dan and miss Dave so much!!!
We weren't "made." We evolved. That's the truth.
Yup. What a shame this isn't common sense.
@@TheTruthKiwi ..............................last we check, common sense in religion is abysmal. the fact that they entrust their entire salvation of souls on pinning it on a single person and then killing him as offering to a god, it simply shows that christian dogma is still on par with that of the aztecs and old world religion that thrive on human sacrifice... and they still wouldn't admit that their religion is based on human sacrifice, when they have a man pinned on a cross on every place of worship they have....
one aspect the aztecs have is that they never claimed that their god was omni-everything.... aztec religion is at least several bajilion times more humble than christianity ever was or will be...
Mark von Wisco • The truth is, evolution has absolutely nothing to do with what made the evolving species in the first place.
@@SongWhisperer well, you could say we evolved from single cell organisms so that is, in effect, how we originated initially. No one knows exactly how life originated but abiogenesis could explain it.
@@hakureikura9052 yup. It is baffling how people still believe in any religious dogma with all the facts and knowledge we have today. To keep believing they just have to reject facts and science altogether like this caller does. Very sad.
His voice is half speed. But the brain is slower than that. Truth!
That's my "observation"....
Is it just me or is Christopher Walken trolling this show?
If walken had 8 tabs of acid
More like 13
Definitely a troll though.
Sounds like tommy chong
Yes!
0:29 He's called Jungle Jargon. Has he cornered the market on Jungles and Jargon ?
I just love the cognitive dissonance when you ask a believer if they think as an atheist (who is by all accounts a good person) are you going to hell and they have to dodge the question. "It's not up to me."
Because they don't want you to go to hell. And the can't handle that that makes them morally superior to their own god. At least the ones who just say yes are being intellectually honest with themselves.
12:50 "they dont even know whats going on" as he TALKS ON A HANDHELD COMPUTER THAT REQUIRES SPACE COMPUTERS THAT WE TOOK THERE! LOL
If the pre-existing instructions are how humans are made, who are the instructions for?
They can simply say 'nature', 'life processes' etc. They are claiming DNA is evidence of a teleological influence rather than natural selection, thus God.
Personally, I think 'scaffolding' as a metaphor for DNA may be less susceptible to misunderstanding or intentional distortion than the word 'code'. Scaffolding is appropriately physical and code inappropriately suggests abstract, intentional instructions from a separate conscious entity, i.e. a programmer.
@@denbecr49 Could you explain what you mean by scaffolding? I tried googling it but I didn't really get any relevant results.
@@drg8687 It's a metaphor I personally chose because I think it is less confusing than the word "code". You won't find it in a search. There are likely better words experts in the field could use (and may have) if it mattered to them (it doesn't) that some are taking the word "code" literally rather than as a metaphor as it has been misapplied to describe the structure and function of DNA. Sorry for the confusion.
They are carried out by the little men inside our cells.
I am just starting this video and I have my doubts if I will be able to finish it.
You won't. I didn't.
"the instructions work rather you understand or not"
*THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT WORKING IS WHAT NO ONE UNDERSTANDS*
I often wonder if people like this HAD been raised secular, they could have gone into medical research and found the cure for cancer. How many potential people have we lost to change the world like that to religion? Raising your child to end up like this dude is disgraceful.
"it's not that complicated"
well, get to it then...
I love how Christians continue to use these arguments with atheists as if they are convincing at all.
I'm not convinced that this guy is for real. His refusal to just say "DNA" to clarify what he is obviously talking about isn't credible. Seems like he was just drawing things out for as long as possible.
I was raised in a christian household (Mennonite to be exact) but I was a born again Christian from the time I was 15-24 (up until 6 months ago). The last 2 years before I gave up my faith fully filled me with so much turmoil, I thought because my faith was slipping that I would go to hell. I prayed every day for 2 years that god wouldn’t let me die until my faith was “fixed“. Any god that would put their believers through that much fear and heart ache, is a dick. I have an anxiety disorder so I became an absolute mess. I always wondered why god wouldn’t just come to me and SHOW me that he was real so that I could die knowing the truth and that I wouldn’t go to hell. When I finally went out and looked for the truth myself, it was to my relief that religion was man made and that there was ZERO evidence for a god. The relief I experienced was almost euphoric
“My scientist?” I didn’t know I had my very own “scientists” lmao.
Why do people think religion makes people stupid? Jungle Jargon - "hold my beer. "
Sometimes, as in this case, stupidity can be offensive; maybe it's because he's so unwilling to learn.
Spouts absolute nonsense-slurs his way to a dead end.
The hosts gave this caller far more time than his comments merited.
A key omission in the titling at the bottom of the video is, I think, the source of all of the mistaken assessments of this caller. His actual name is George of the Jungle Jargon.
Completely unwilling to even listen. God "just has to be vecause i said so"
”pLeAse DOnt sTuTteR”... *proceeds to stutter himself*
There is no lower bar than Jungle Jargon.
Sand bar..
God loves to play with lives, he apparently gets off on watching people suffer.
That’s why people leave this religion. “god” sucks.
The moment he said “goat herders” I knew he was trolling, no religious person I know of has ever used that terminology to describe the people who wrote their beloved texts or who kept the oral tradition there of
Oh, he's not. Jungle Jargon is simply this weird and deeply, deeply deluded.
I haven't heard of him in a while, this was a blast from the past, but back in the day he would spend hours upon hours upon hours on chats, writing comments and hanging around with other Christians, usually of the very low hanging fruit kind, spreading the same muddled ideas you hear here.
Unless his was a deep fake kind of trolling that lasted for years on end, I think we can safely say that he is for real.
@@spacewizard69 let’s say I strongly suspected he wasn’t until the above reply identified him as a theist who frequently commented on atheist channels with absurd arguments
@@spacewizard69 Jungle Jargon is a Christian, known for spending hours upon hours online, “defending” his faith.
My 6 yr old grandson answered that question. I got a clue grandma!! Priceless.
Damn right, the goat herders of 3,000 years ago knew more about science than the guys with PhDs today. Got it!
Straight up exhausting.
This caller sounds like Tovia Singer?
I love when they run from the, "am I going to Hell" question.
"There are a lot of forces."
Yes - electromotive forces, magnetic forces, gravitational forces, Van der Walls forces, nuclear forces
The jedi force
Sounds like Jargon hit the Jesus juice.
If that's true he does it way too often.
The religious reefer... the pious pipe... that christian crack... the holy heroin ... that sanctified sedative... a venerated Vicodin ... communion chronic ... orthodox opiate ... devotional dope
@@barkYdarkATFB Alliterative analogues. 😊
I really hope Dave is doing ok at the moment. I know he doesn't have much time.
Ok, I now think this guy is a prank caller
"why would anyone deny this?" Followed by "everything you do is determined by the commands written inside you"... Sounds like he already knows the answer.
I'm not really sure what I just listened to. I think I came out a little Dumber. Hopefully he listens to this and realizes how he sounds.
My pre-existing written word was on my appendix but I lost it a long time ago
The fact is that we're here because of the errors in the DNA replication process, bringing evolution. So, no, no creator wrote human DNA, it is the result of millions of years of DNA replications and mutations starting from the first cellular organism.
One of those people that just want to hear themselves talk. Had the next word sliding in and out of his mouth all through their responses.
You can hear the hate and anger the caller has towards those who.don't believe as he does.
The caller from New Jersey needed to provide directions to non-theistic sources for his "pre-existing instruction"
My insurance covers preexisting written words. I’m good.
Jordanmode Brilliant!
I guess I'm screwed, I use the VA hospital
Well, none of us is good. No, not one. But congrats on the coverage.
One of those must frustrating callers in a long time
JJ came up with an entirely new type of logical fallacy - the circular word salad fallacy. Congratulations!🤣🤣
People like this make me reconsider a test for voting.
“It was the goat herders” I say troll.
If he was trolling then he's got his voice acting down. He sounded pretty sincere but yeah, that was a trollish thing to say. I think he's just an old guy and is convinced the goat herders were devine genius's.
HE'S SAYING "WRITTEN INSIDE YOUR CELLS" not "YOURSELVES". The dumb part is that he doesn't have the intelligence to adjust his language to clarify what he means. Okay finally, he explains it when they dig hard enough to get him to explain.
"Please don't stutter" WTF lol
Jungle Jargon is a Poe. He's never denied it when challenged.
this guys' mind is fastened shut with iron bars and padlocks
Yeah, and a couple of boulders placed on the hatch to keep it closed. Maybe we need a couple of guards to stand watch as well ...just in case.
Definition error. Concatenation means to link together. In Comp Sci it's frequently used to mean to add two strings together. His use is way off!
If that was the only thing he got wrong, he'd be way ahead of where he's at. Sounds like he needs to be locked up in an asylum.
If Jungle Jargon's logic circles were any smaller they'd be points. He's either a poe or utterly incapable of understanding what evidence even _is._
What's a 'poe'?
@@oaktree2406 A poe is, in reference to Poe's Law, someone who only pretends to believe what they claim to believe, usually for the purpose of parody or trolling.
@@shizanketsuga8696 ooh yeah oh ok thanks! ✌
I've seen Jungle Jargon in many many comments sections. He's definitely the latter.
these type of zealots make me very nervous
This guy sounds like a 1930's crime boss.
Jungle Jargon has two lists of phrases from a scenario he has been taught. His every response is to choose one from list #1 and another from list #2, at random. No thought process is involved, nor needed, nor allowed.
I'm from the south. Bless his heart.