Dever, Duncan, MacArthur, and Sproul: Questions and Answers #2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2013
- From the 2005 Ligonier National Conference with Mark Dever, Ligon Duncan, John MacArthur, and R.C. Sproul.
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These panels and the conversations feed my soul!
Such Godly men that live Gods word!
Lived and he loved me, Died and he saved me, Buried he carried my Sins far away, Risen he justified and freed me forever,,, One day he's coming back, GLORIOUS DAY !!!! ❤ Shalom Shalom ❤
So true! A real message of God’s unfailing Love.
“ oh what a Savior we have”. Moves my heart every time closer to Jesus.
Actually it's not just us finding Jesus,
But Jesus Christ FINDING US, Being drawn through the Father's Power & Holy Spirit.
Amen!
Something isn't bad simply because it's new. Thank you R.C.
It's not good either-in the same regard.
@@davidirvin8885 - presumably so. Yes. Brings to mind a quote I once. Something is neither good or bad. It is what it is.
@@MsMichaelia presumably so.
@@davidirvin8885😅
@@MsMichaeliathat's idiotic
Murder is bad
Grace is good
I loved , and I love these guys .What a great and wonderful GOD we serve . May GOD bless them all .
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AMEN. 🙏
Most contemporary Christian music is chanting and there’s a record label or a contract tied to it. The incredible hymns of the past were written out of the heart and soul of a relationship with God.
8:50 MacArthur: "....There is only one Seeker in our church.... that's the Father who seek true worshippper....
As often as you can arcding to the scripture
These answers to questions are so clear and understandable.
I Love these Q&A’s🙏🏼✝️🙌🏼😇🔥⚔️👑
❤I love these men of God, the education it has brought to me makes me know more about being reformed.
April 2020, We miss you R.C
As a mother of teenagers, I'm thankful that there's a decent radio station that they can listen to that has edifying and uplifting communications and Christian lyrics.
What is that station, please?
35:47 john calvin - "God does not answer our prayers as we pray them, but as we would pray them if we were wiser.”
A very good reminder
Bless the Lord for His Word
And may God bless the airwaves through which we hear the Word of God
On point I love this Q&A session.
+KOINONIA IXOYE I love this too
Blessings to you brothers!!!!!✝💒
l was _GROSSLY_ superficial! As a man is by nature, but The Lord Jesus changed it! he led me to peeps like MacArthur, and Sproul , and Wow! what a difference! l'm an audio learner and enjoyed the way they taught! _ALL GLORY_ goes to The KING of kings, and LORD of lords.
I think some of these question and answer formats are entertainment but great teaching.
I would put them at the top or very near the top of my entertainment. The truths revealed will last far longer and have much greater effect on my life than a contemporary "worship" song.
When we talk about spiritual gifts, we are not talking about skills. I have the skill of entertainment, not the gift. God tells us to exercise our gifts, not our skills.
I pray that G-d bless them. And RIP Dr. Sproul.
It’s “God.”
I am old school if you can call it, I prefer the Hallelujah, Glory to God
I like that once a month and preachig and teaching on the service/
I would like to have the Lord's supper more often.
With services being held at home it's hard
They cannot be compared to hyms like A Mighty Fortress is Our God.
What a long footnote by John Mac 🤣 Love this Q&A... I watched it before I think. Ha2
This is excellent !
Around the 8:00 mark RC does a good job bifurcating the two uses of the word "seeker" - it's good to be reminded of that.
If that is the only exposure to the bible so be it!! Many children are not taught properly at home and if Sunday school is the only or best option! Teach!!
I went to great Sunday schools. I did scripture exams and learnt about lots of things about the times Jesus lived in. We made shoebox models of the houses ppl lived in when we learnt the story of the invalid lowered from the roof to be touched by Jesus. The Catholic Church never did Sunday Schools. One near me started a "children's liturgy," but it was awful. None of the women really understood what to do and the kids just coloured in pictures of hearts n crosses😁
Regarding the Lord’s supper, It’s not very convincing to me when hearing the reason like “we have a mega church, we need to spend 25 mins on Lord’s supper, it’s simply too long so we don’t want to do it weekly”. What concerns me is not about the frequency. Instead, it makes me feel like it’s not worth spending 25 mins for Lord’s supper (the activity itself is not important) but that’s apparently not true.
if your liturgy is the one that alienates your "elect" or "church members", then what should you do?
Psalm 136 repeats the phrase "for his steadfast love endures forever" twenty six times. I'd take someone singing the phrase "I love you Lord" 46 times over "I've got the moves like Jagger 1800 times"
Our God is an awesome God, He reigns from Heaven above with wisdom power and love, Our God is an awesome God . . . repeat a bunch of times (Hillsong) :o)
My church uses a hymnal with all the old songs and some of them are pretty bad, others are great.
Robert Collins
BBB
The "form" of worship is certainly important, but the greater issue is if we worship the way Jesus said we should...in Spirit and in truth.
@@hikerJohn MacArthur himself made a point in another q and a that there are alot of bad songs with great theology and alot of great songs with bad theology. Our hymnals, you are right, are a mix of both.
10:40 - 13:00. This ☝️☝️☝️. Verbalized the ills of contemporary services in 2 minutes 20 seconds. Every pastor and deacon board of every church needs to hear this!!!
I agree with John on ‘Christian’ music. I lost interest in it awhile ago. But, on the other hand, true Christian music by specifically Sovereign Grace and Caroline Cobb are excellent imo.
There are many new Christian artist who reach the younger generation when old hymns would not.
But reach them with what? What do they have to say? What is their focus?
Please answer my question : where does the pastor get the word christmas when it's not in the bible?
Principles of worship?
Thank you for these answers, on music, and on worship being for believers, etc (5:05 ?) ...And I've got the rest of the video to listen to now, for more good answers...
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I have read the same phrase in the psalms many many times. Not sure if it matters....I love the scripture to bring me in to a worshipful mode tbh
What does he mean by "fencing of the table" @ 22:35 ?
John Google is a great resource when you have questions of terminology.
www.fpchurch.org.uk/about-us/what-we-contend-for/the-lords-supper/fenc
He is talking about fencing the communion table. Usually a warning about communion and asking those who are not christians to not participate. 1 Corinthians 11:27-30 being the example
If one has God in his life, why should he be seeking him? All he has to do, is to turn to God in prayer daily. One seek that which he has lost or never had. If Christ be in me and I in him, all I will be seeking is to obey and live an acceptable life before him. Many are making the Gospel of Christ too difficult.
I have a question. Why do some pastors scream or holler. Then I think the downfall of the church is letting the world come in. Example. Let’s cancel AWANAS and have supper bowl Sunday night. With big screen and football playing at the church. But we will skip the commercials. Or Let’s have an Easter Egg hunt. 150 children show up and only two bikes are given away. Oh yes trick or Trunk! Not to mention the girl two rows up wearing something that from two rows back you may wonder does this person have any cloths on. Also the sermon always always come back to we need more workers at the church. Now what I want to say is that I really miss the church. Like it was said church should be for the believer. Church is suppose to be the house of God we we worship and learn about God and his son Jesus.
Amen
4:40-8:57 ✅👍
The foundation of the of the trinity throws off the bible example Mat.28:19 ; if you back track to Mat. 28:16 you will find the deciples were told to meet
with Jesus . Peter was 1 of them that were there when Jesus said 28:19 : so what does he do is found in Acts 2:38 . I was baptized Acts 2:38 , is there any problem with this ? If there is please explain 2nd Peter 1:20, & 21, & Rev. 22:18,&19,& 2nd Timothy 3:16, 17 .
Outside the kingdom?
I totally agree with pastor macarthur most contemporary
Christian music does nothing for me
You definitely need help in the A/V department. There is horrible ring (feedback)in every mic.... About the area of 800 Hz... I'm looking for a church.
The ? about clapping after special songs sung etc IS actually done (now) @ GTY...I myself try and stay away from that because it appears to some that the person ministering in music/song...is performing.....when it shoulod be about worship....
This is great. The more I hear some of the things MacArthur says (especially about church manner and how to lead in worship)...and some other things too, the more I like him. Why he was adopted by (of all persons, R. C. and James M. Boice) is beyond me...MacArthur has regeneration straight but I see nothing "Reformed" otherwise. My never having much of a church locally I am positive I would probably liked having him close by to go to though.
I have no patience with the 'convenience' reasons for witholding the Lord's Supper.
Most churches today barely do baptisms either but 1 or 2 times a yr. They save everyone up and dunk them all in a swimming pool or borrow other churches baptismal's tank. True story. That isn't right either for a true convert to have to wait for 7 mos. to be baptised. Ugh.
The scriptures teach, that as OFTEN as you do this.
@@shellyslioneyes I initially went to an independent baptist church and asked for baptism within days of my salvation, not for salvation but as obedience. I had to wait for eight months before a group of us were baptized together.
It kind of destroys type. Here is water, what hinders me from being baptized?
I learned so much on these question and answer portion I praise God for putting on those man of God Thank you my Father God💓🥰💓
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Hunter man
MacArthur you said it was a tongues issue??? According to you not the bible.
No; according too Gods word.
Shai Linne!
Yeeeees! "In his great mercy he gave us the remedy, christ lived sinlessly then he paid the penalty, his assassination was public like john Kennedy, rose on the third day exalted to the heavenly, repent and see your sins will be deleted from his memory! Gained a new identity, eternal serenity!" Shai linne 'mercy and grace'
Agree with this! He’s theologically sound and deep! Soli Deo Gloria!
@@Ahmayzin The death of Jesus is in no way like the assassination of Kennedy.
@@carljones8334 they both were killed publicly....this went right over your head bub.
@@Ahmayzin So anyone who is killed publicly, Christ's atoning sacrifice can be compared equally with them? You have a very shallow idea of Christ
Isaiah 40:25 “To whom then will you liken Me,
Or to whom shall I be equal?” says the Holy One.
The church I go to they always leave the juice and bread at the bread at the back of the church. People volunteer on their own if they want to partake on the Lords supper or not. Of course there must be self reflection before you partake.
At the time of Jesus there were no music in the Temple
Everything Johnie Mack?
No rc and mark Denver's spoke alot too.
@@overcomer4226Theological Lightweights all. Like watching armless children try to swim.
@@bilbobaggins4403 theological lightweights? Are you joking around?
@@laurapug5389 Nope. Look up Karl Barth and TF Torrance.
You feel Sproul and his cohorts are the pinnacle of theological discourse? I'm asking seriously.
@@bilbobaggins4403 ill look them up
Thank you. Our church has Lord’s supper maybe once a year. 😞 but never skips Trunk or Treat complete with witch costumes, spider webs and monster music. (About which I have voiced my concerns and do not participate.)
Strange that the reformation began October 31st 1517, yet trick and treat is remembered. and celebrated.
Carl Jones yes I agree.
I'm curious as to why you attend that church?
Watching The skies because there are no better ones here 😢
@@solascriptura7975 I'm so sorry. We are very blessed to live in a time where we can find good solid teaching and preaching online. It's definitely there for those of us too long for it. God bless!
Marcion, so that where Andy Stanley got his distaste for the Old Testament.
i asked the Lord Jesus who is answering the prayers of the wof believers?
the false christ = the devil???
it always appear that their prayers to another Jesus are answered more frequently than true believers!
of course their prayer requests usually revolve around the prosperity gospel !
Christian music today if you played it to saints 60 yrs ago would think its of the devil
"Prayer from an unbeliever is an abomination!" John Gertsner
Poor wee souls
Do they talk about a pre tribulation ever or do they believe that all will go through the great trib. The Bible says that God has not appointed His wrath on His Church. I thought the tribulation was for the unbelievers and the unrepentant and unsaved?? That is why some will repent during the trib and become the tribulation saints. I would like to hear thoughts on this..
I'm speaking of the pretrib rapture in the above statement, do they believe in it??
These Calvinist doctrine points make me cringe
how sad to someone like John MacArthur twist scripture (6:15) :(
I was once ignorant as you renowned preachers are still today concerning the doctrine of communion. You need to re-read where the 12 disciples almost stumbled, once again. So ignorance has no shame until you know and don't do it. Ask your pastor again.
Just a hint: It has nothing to do with Jesus' two arm and two legs or any other part of his body. That interpretation will defile you.
Jesus accepts us, we can't adj him into our heart, we are dead in our sin, dead people can't ask for anything from God. Sinners prayer is not Biblical, baptism is not water, that was a Pharisee ritual, it's the blood! ❤
The Father draws who he wants and regenerates them.
You need help..have you got it yet
I have a diagram of the trinity triangle :it said the father, the son, & the Holy Spirit were God . But the father, the son, & the Holy sprit were not each other. So I did a research project,& here are the results : the father,& son are spirits according to John 4:24, & they are holy Lev. 11:44, 21:8, & 1st Peter 1:16. Now the Lord's prayer : the word Hallowed means holy, & consecrated ,that makes the father who art in heaven a Holy Spirit : Mat 6:9, Luke 11:2 not to mention the son who is God . Now the Holy Spirit , the 3rd person : Luke 11:13, & Acts 2:38 says it is a gift , hardly a person . 1st Peter 1:17 says this about people ;And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:. 3 people in the trinity ?
Now i am truly confused..l need my happy pills
I'd be uncomfortable with a woman in clergy.
Dever and Duncan have become enormous disappointments
The purple bull routinely irritate because archer intringuingly pine of a finicky pheasant. highfalutin, truthful occupation
There's certainly some awful music written in the past as well, particularly around the end of the 19th century.
They say the word "exposition" too much. They need a thesaurus on stage.
Lol.
Loll yes
I ADORE christian music. Skillet, Imagine Dragons, etc. Y'all just to old. I'm not interested in funeral music. How deep the lyrics can be depend on who & why you ARE listening.
Imagine dragons isn’t Christian music, their lead singer is Mormon.
+Mary Hawkey -- Sorry, but that TRASH is not in the least "Christian music".. NOT ONE iota.. It is worldly nonsense with Christ's Name occasionally thrown in. The Bible is clear about joining in with the world and doing the same things that they do - which is what today's "Christian" music is 200%. "Imagine Dragons"?? A name for Satan is the dragon.. yeah, that's Christian. *No discernment*.. and the ONLY way to get any is to read the Bible. Skillet also is NOT Christian music, not one bit and no, no one is "too old". Again, it is having discernment and *being in obedience* to God, which again, you are not. Read a Bible.. seems you haven't done so.
@@andy10003000 The dragon is a name for Satan. Mormon or not, no, he is not Christian, and neither is that name OR their "music".... Jesus said to NOT become one with the world.
@@andy10003000 i know right
Imagine dragons is Christian music to you?? Lolll
Backbiting your pastor is very bad idea
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