The meat and dairy diet before turning Vegan

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  • @justinrose8661
    @justinrose8661 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was a vegan for over 10 years until I realized I was being brainwashed by globalists. Veganism is a luxury afforded to you by modernity and requires a higher level of consumerism in order to maintain the diet. the natural human diet is nearly 100% animal products and has been since the dawn of the species. Meat is amazing for your body and contains nutrients that you can't get from plants, ever. Without these nutrients you have to opt for ridiculous highly processed "vegan" alternatives. Here's what you're missing from your diet:
    Vitamin B12
    Viatmin D3
    Vitamin A
    Vitamin K2
    DHA
    Carnitine
    Retinol
    Taurine
    Creatine
    Heme iron(this is important, particularly for women, as Iron from plant sources isn't readily absorbed by the body nearly as well)
    Veganism, like I said, is a modern aberration and a scam to get you to give your autonomy up to corporations. There are lots of reasons its pushed, one of those reasons is to keep people from farming their own food so that they give up their land and are conditioned to live in pods and eat overprocessed slop made out of soy. If you think that's all tinfoil hat shit, that's find, just consider the physical effects I outlined above. Also grains are shit for you. Look it up.

    • @dustinDraig
      @dustinDraig หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm confused, who's the "they" in your conspiracy theory?

    • @justinrose8661
      @justinrose8661 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dustinDraig nevermind, its not as easy as pointing to one group and giving you an answer in a single TH-cam post. Don't disregard the rest of my post because of that. I don't mean to sound dismissive of you in any way, it's just that you have to have an active interest in geopolitics and understand things like what the function of a lobbyist is, how power dynamics work between entities like the military industrial complex and the governments of the world, what propaganda techniques are and how they work, etc in order to know who "they" are. It's not an easy one word answer as much as people want it to be black and white. All you have to do is follow the money, bro.

    • @Alaskaventureswithbrodie
      @Alaskaventureswithbrodie หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, who is the they. Kind of reading your post and thinking hmmmm who’s brainwashed here. Whole Foods plant-based diet is the way to go. You get all the nutrients you need. The only thing you have to supplement as a vegan is B12, which you need to supplement as a meat eater and vitamin D if you don’t live in a sunny area. I was anemic when I was a meat eater since I went plant, I am no longer anemic. The meat industry has a lot of money and they can put out a lot of fear mongering. There’s not profit to be made in whole food plant based.

    • @Tommy-pz2yc
      @Tommy-pz2yc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So why are the oldest living communities in the world either vegetarian or mostly vegetarian? You only get B12 from meat because the animal's are supplemented with it 😂

    • @jordanjtbraun
      @jordanjtbraun หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Brain Washed" by globalists, eh? Well, I became vegan before it was cool (1998). So, first off historically speaking, plant based diets are the diet of the poor. Up until recent times (1900's), the poor ate mostly plant based with meat only rarely showing up on the dinner plate. Only the rich could afford to eat meat on a regular basis. The only reason why we can afford meat in today's society is that meat and dairy are some of the most highly subsidized food in modern agriculture.
      Personally, I have never paid any attention to "globalists" or talking heads. See, I am a scientist and I am capable of reading scientific papers. The science observations are consistent in saying that 1) vegan diets are sufficient and that 2) vegans have a longer lifespan. If you read the studies and not simply listen to talking heads like Sean Baker, Dr. Chaffee, etc. but read the papers they base their positions off of, it is easy to see that they misunderstand and misrepresent the findings of the studies. Science says veganism is a more preferred diet, not the "globalists".
      As for deficiencies, only B12 is of concern but it is also of concern for meat eaters as well. Vitamin B12 is made by . bacteria, not animals. The sanitized environment we live in has decreased these beneficial bacteria and there is less B12 in all our foods than there was previously. Carnivores, Omnivores and vegans should all be supplementing with vitamin B12.
      "Veganism, like I said, is a modern aberration" Really? Funny. Wasn't Pythagoras a vegan (570 - 495 BCE) ? As was Leonardo Da Vinci (1452- 1519 CE) ? What about the Jewish sect, the Essenes (200 BCE - 100 CE). I believe that they were vegetarian. I am pretty sure that India has been practicing plant based diets for a couple thousand years now (2300 BCE). Modern? Yeah sure. If you have a short memory or have neglected your education to the point of not reading some of the classics. Veganism is as old as the collective memory of society my friend. Just because we now have "Impossible Burgers" and "Beyond Meat" does not mean that we have only recently eschewed meat in our diet.

  • @alisonzunguze8183
    @alisonzunguze8183 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    New subbie here. Nice to meet you. Wfpb person. Or at least living it, one day at a time. Thank you for sharing 🙏🙏😊😊

    • @coachmartinsmith9323
      @coachmartinsmith9323  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so very much, welcome to my Channel, Best, Mart

  • @siftingtrutheshit2380
    @siftingtrutheshit2380 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    OH GOD....
    YOU'LL LEARN,MAKE TAKE A YEAR OR TWO...BUT YOU WILL.

  • @mackenzie305
    @mackenzie305 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    40 days of vegetarianism made me feel like death, but everyone is different. I wish you the best!

    • @Alaskaventureswithbrodie
      @Alaskaventureswithbrodie หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends on what you were eating and how you were doing it.

    • @krisissupercool1
      @krisissupercool1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Alaskaventureswithbrodie i was vegan for 8 years. I supplemented b12, algea omega 3's DHA&EPA, zinc, i hit all of my RDI's including calories. I felt fine for about a year, then i started getting sick, I ignored my rapidly declining health, to stick with the principality of veganism that my diet was aligning with. One of the hardest things for vegans to accept is that the diet, no matter how tailored and edited, is not what people have eaten for millions of years, im not appealing to tradition and claiming that because we have done it for so long, that its okay, what im saying, is that dietarily speaking, WFPB, is not for everybody long term as we havn't eaten that way for our species entire inception. We should reduce our animal consumption as far as practical and possible, but what's practical and what's possible, is not a one sized fits all like the veg community wants you to believe. Had i found balance and got out of my echo chamber, i would still have my galbladder today.

    • @coachmartinsmith9323
      @coachmartinsmith9323  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi there thank you for your comment. 40 days is enough time to figure out if something is for you and we are all curious beings wanting to at least try new things to improve our health. For me fruits and veggies for the most part have been in my diet all my life and having made a fitness transformation over the last year, the body is in a healthy stable condition, what I mean is that I’m in a good place to switch to vegan. I know that the entry for some people is due to poor health/health scares and for a long time they have been ‘the other way’ so to speak with a diet consisting of processed foods, high inflammatory foods, whatever the case may be and that’s more of a rapid shift the body is not used to and as you say everyone’s different due to whatever we’ve done prior to the switch but for me I’m closely monitoring. Thanks again, Best, Mart

    • @robhingston
      @robhingston หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was great after 40 days of being a Vegan, but after 19 months of vegetarianism I was not feeling great,
      At the moment I'm not a vegan, but I am primary plant based (flexitarian) I have animal proteins maybe once sometimes twice a week

    • @mackenzie305
      @mackenzie305 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @coachmartinsmith9323 that is a very well thought out response. A lot of people benefit from eating plants. I think my primary problem with trying vegetarianism was my insulin resistance from pcos. I wish I could eat fruit, rice, and grains, but it is way too easy for me to get diabetic even on a whole foods diet

  • @mattruscoe4353
    @mattruscoe4353 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WFPB vegan here, for the last four years. 112kgs and 196cm tall, and I manage well on WFPB - my weight does not really fluctuate except a bit at the moment after a sports injury surgery and now recovering. I am completely fine intellectually, emotionally and physicallly with taking a B12 supplement, a multi and I am now doing an algae based Omega 3 (my blood work over the last three years is good, could improve on a couple of items and working on that now). I don't really get hung up on the natural is best idea (I type on my keyboard in a heated room using wireless internet). If I can have a healthy diet that needs some supplementation to optimise it, then that just seem a smart way to go. When you look at what foods are supplemented anyway (folate, iodine) and what must be given to animals in the meat industry (B12, antibiotics, GMO food), it kind of makes a mockery of natural. Best of health to you on your journey.

    • @coachmartinsmith9323
      @coachmartinsmith9323  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are taller than me I’m 182cm 6’1 and I weigh 86kg 190 and one of my targets is to pack on muscle on a vegan diet so I would love to get anywhere close to 112kgs! I know that during this early stage I am going to need to supplement to ensure the body is getting what it needs and to prevent cravings of going back to meat- Of course I can override cravings with sheer will power however 30 years of consuming meat my physiology has been conditioned to digest meat so these early stages are critical. I’m interested in getting some blood work done and sharing on here in the future! For me it all comes down to awareness, how aware are we of our health, are we taking the reins and making a conscious effort to power the body to the best of our abilities despite to ongoings of day to day life. Thanks again, If you haven’t already, please Subscribe to my TH-cam Channel, Best Martin

    • @mattruscoe4353
      @mattruscoe4353 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@coachmartinsmith9323 subscribed now. I should also have stated, I take creatine daily (as does my wife). Awareness is key so blood work is a good idea. We are in Australia, you sound UK, so we are (generally) able to access blood work either for free or quite cheaply. I think you'll do great. A great resource is Aussie Simon Hill , the Proof Podcast (also on yt). He does long form interviews with scientists who actually do the research on nutrition and health outcomes. Anyway, best of health to you and yours.

  • @PostFinasterideSyndromeNorway
    @PostFinasterideSyndromeNorway หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tried vegan but all the foods made me feel so bloated terrible gut issues. I now just eat red meat eggs white rice and fruit. And that works great no gut issues 🎉 i def dont think green leafy vegetables are for humans. But some plants we should try to eat because why not 🎉

    • @coachmartinsmith9323
      @coachmartinsmith9323  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hiya 👋 thank for your comment- I can totally understand that as many ‘vegan foods’ are processed and when eaten in large quantities one may feel a bit clogged up. The vegan will be ingesting more carbs too! For me the target is to eventually be as little as processed as possible being mostly fresh fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds and there comes in other factors too such as are we helping our digestive system sleeping well, exercising on a regular basis, minimising stress and many more factors. I wish you well on your journey, Best, Mart

  • @Rucking1
    @Rucking1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im vegetarian so I eats eggs, eggs are amazing for you, but i love vegi/vegan food, im a rice and beans lover which is amazing because I make curries and allsorts

    • @coachmartinsmith9323
      @coachmartinsmith9323  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes absolutely! Vegetarian is the next best thing. I would encourage fruits and veggies in any diet- even meat eaters as the fibre will aid digestion!

  • @coachmartinsmith9323
    @coachmartinsmith9323  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi 👋 thank you for sharing- I will look into to that BBC point and love your train hard to get those gains enthusiasm! For me to hit my target of extensively limiting processed foods I know that eventually I’m going to be waving bye to the protein shakes with this most probably being my last bag. I am looking into purchasing a slow cooker soon. I track my food and weigh my body each week weighing in and around 190lbs and will continue that now as a Vegan. I have received some really helpful advice from people including yourself on making sure I’m getting the vitamins that I would normally get from meat and diary. If you haven’t already, please subscribe to my TH-cam Channel, Best, Mart

  • @youbeever
    @youbeever หลายเดือนก่อน

    PART (3) START OF COPIED MESSAGE:
    "@stefanisilva2493 You are making statements that assumes the "science" you are looking is demonstrably correct. Based on what facts? You response makes no sense at all. I quote "start explaining a serious phenomenon......give a partially misguided solution etc." How so? Clearly explain what's wrong and "misguided".? You are clearly "concluding" this from you plant based perception without giving any rational explanation.
    I quote "Why specifically preferring the fats that promotes diacylglycerol": Do you fully understand under what circumstances ceramides (which you missed) and diacylglycerols are produced by saturated fats? That's a prime example of a plant based advocate who plucks a piece of information that suits their narrative out of context to make a point against animal based food.
    Coincidentally, I briefly mentioned this in another response to you and asked your opinion about that study. It is actually Ben BIkman who was the main author on a study that demonstrated the effect of saturate fat on the TLR4 cell receptors that resulted in the activation and accumulation of ceramides and this study is used by plant based advocates as they actually fail to understand its meaning. He himself clearly explained why that study is being misinterpreted nowadays (Have a look at his InsulinIQ channel).
    First of all, the cells used in his experiment were directly flooded/exposed to fats under artificial circumstances that do not represent human nutrition. There is also a study by Volk et al. that clearly demonstrated that consuming saturated fats do not correlate to direct increase in blood saturated fats. We already knew that as that's not how human physiology works. Another point is that we are able to excrete excess fats in the stools. We can't do this with carbohydrates on the other hand. The only way excess carbs are removed from the blood is by conversion into TG in the adipcytes and this is where hypertrophy/hyperplasia of adipocytes come into play (hypertrophy being more pathogenic due to cytokine release/inflammation...too long to elaborate for now). Again plant based advocates would know that if they understood fat metabolism from ingestion to absorption and excretion in the human body. Lipotoxicity (which you are trying to refer to but fail to understand) happens downstream of insulin resistance that has already been established by a chronic intake of carbs/simple sugars/fructose/vegetable oils (as promoted by a vegan diet) over the course of many years. It is absolutely not the ingestion of a healthy amount of animal based food that will "cause" lipotoxicity. Eating couple of eggs as part of your breakfast and some fish for dinner is certainly NOT setting you up for disease due to diacyl glycerol, inflammation via the mTOR (more on this later) cascade or cause insulin resistance due to increased insulin response due to amino acids! This is absurd and yet another example of why "the illusion of knowledge" is worse than ignorance. It's taking science out of context to suit a narrative. Lipotoxicity and the production of ceramides and diacylglycerol happens when insulin resistance and mitochondrial damage has already been established and not in fully insulin sensitive individuals with no metabolic dysfunctions. Animal based food does not contain only "saturated fats" by the way but rather a mixture of types (only dairy contains mostly saturated fats).
    There is robust molecular science to demonstrate that when cells are chronically flooded with glucose intracellulary (as in a high carb/plant based diet) they actually suffer from an excess of ROS production that naturally occurs from oxidative phosphorylation for the production of ATP. This eventually causes damage to the cell organelles, DNA and the mitochondria itself. Direct non-enzymatic glycation of cell organelles from chronic excess intracellular glucose can itself cause damage on top of oxidative stress/damage. We know this already from vascular damage in diabetics (e.g. diabetic nephropathy and retinopathy..glycation of haemoglobin as in HbA1c measurement also produce oxidative peroxides as part of the Amadori reaction). As a result, the mitochondria's efficiency at buring glucose decreases (unclean burning) and fails to break down fatty acids efficiently and this is part of the mechanism/onset that can trigger the production of toxic metabolites such as ceramides and diacylglycerol (toxic by products of impaired fatty acid metabolism). Toxic ceramides/DAG can in turn activate other components (e.g. protein kinase C) that contributes to the downregulation of the Glut4 insulin receptor/channel therefore contributing to insulin resistance. So it is true to say that lipotoxicity is involved in insulin resistance but that's only a fraction of the whole story. This is what the plant based "scientific" community does all the time to discourage the consumption of animal based food.
    Your point about amino acids and insulin response/inflammation via the mTOR cascade suffers from the same issue. Sure protein causes an insulin response. So what? It's actually CRITICAL that we have that insulin response from insulin. The same goes for the mTOR cascade. Animal based food contains amino acids such as methionine, leucine and lysine that are the rate limiting components of ESSENTIAL protein synthesis via the mTOR cascade. This is actually why a purely plant based diet fails to trigger proper protein synthesis. It's too long for me to elaborate on this in detail right now. But saying that the mTOR cascade "causes" inflammation and that animal based food containing the amino acids that triggers it should not be consumed is absolute nonsense. It's the same as saying that IGF-1 "causes" death based on that study that demonstrated "increased all cause mortality" with raised IGF-1 or that the Arachidonic acid pathway (that results in Thromboxanes, Leukotrienes and prostaglandins) are inflammatory and animal based food should therefore be completely removed from our diet (Dr. Brook Goldner mentioned this in a very manipulative/disingenuous way to a naive audience on her channel...utter nonsense for those who understand biochemistry). IGF-1 and the Arachidonic acid pathway are both vital for our survival as we need the right inflammatory vs anti-inflammatory balance for proper tissue repair and immune response. Likewise, cortisol and insulin are vital. However, when they are in excess under specific circumstance, they certainly can impair our metabolic function. So plucking half-truths out of context is what the plant based scientific community does best and this is why it's increasingly difficult to discuss with those with a blind bias who latch on to those technical snippet of information to make a point in favour of the complete removal of animal based food. Only an unbiased mindset and further scientific studies can equip the masses to be in a position to critically appraise the information that's fed to them." END OF COPIED MESSAGE.