I purchased and read this book about 4 years ago. It has been a game changer in how I relate and talk to people about our society and YHWH. God is Light, and ALL good things come from Him.
Vishal Mangalwadi has done much to open the eys of many to the Christian undergirding of the West and India - and many other places in the world. His books are well worth reading. Thank you John for this interview.
This is some mind-bending stuff, and I say that as one who is an avid reader in history and as someone who while having been raised in a conventional American Christian/Catholic society but who has never been what one might call religious yet as one who recognizes the crucial role the Judeo Christian concepts have had in forming the modern world; one in which India is without a doubt going to be playing a larger and larger and surely pivotal role as we move forward as I am convinced we will now thanks to the transformation of India into a modern society in which these traditionally western ideas are coming to fruition; or so I fervently hope. Thanks for bringing this remarkable perspective to us. Cheers.
I read this book 3 years ago, and it has made it to my most valuable book shelf with other great works. Like de Tocville in the 1800's it takes an outside acute ovserver to really give us perspecti e about ourselves. A must read for anyone who wonders what the the right direction is today.
Enjoy listening to all your guests, but this one was particularly good. I've observed similar things and drawn the same conclusions, though that isn't what made this conversation good to me. It's not often you come across someone who allows you to see with fresh eyes and can elicit a new appreciation.
It makes perfect sense why Hasan Minhaj’s mother would have a picture of princess Diana next to his wedding photo. England save the widows of India. The word of God save them. It’s so heroic, so noble, it’s humbling. So profound and beautiful. Wow! Thank you!
I watched HBO's Rome Season 1 on DVD a few years back. I enjoyed it so much, I watched the commentary by the actors and writers. The lead writer, Bruno Heller, was commenting on the seeming contradiction between the parts of Romano-Greek culture that were deeply civilized (as we would see it) versus the sheer barbarity of the rest. They would take whatever they could from others and see it as the goddess Fortune smiling on them. They would slaughter without mercy the men women and children of a town that defied them, and believe that Mars smiled upon them and gave them their victory and the Fates had decreed that the others were to die. That was that. The reason they saw no moral dilemma and we do, he said, is that Western civilization is so deeply immersed in the ethics of Christianity that we're no longer even aware of it. It's our default view of the world. Even Westerners who see themselves as atheists espouse the ethics of Christianity. It completely permeates our civilization.
Truth being brought out factually with love and concern for nations, Vishalji much needed salt for times we are living in. All pray for him to be greater impact for all nations.
This is a real eye opener! So very insightful and awe inspiring. We take concepts from the bible for granted without realizing what the world was like before it was influenced!
I love that this conversation and sharing of history is helping to contextualize the East to the West. I'm woefully ignorant to this part of history. I appreciate your level of curiosity, John. Love your chats!
I could listen to Vishal for hours. The core issues are Epistemology and Revelation. My only difference is his insistence that humankind is “free” as “God is free.” God is limited by His nature or essence. Freedom is always limited…unless you’re deceived by mythologies of the Evil One.
This book is a fantastic book that I’ve had for several years and have read on more than one occasion. If you haven’t read it then you are seriously impoverished?! Simonline 🇬🇧🤔🙏😀👍
Thank you for interviewing this great man. He has the all the insight and twice the courage of a Rodney Stark, and I've been passing out copies of this book for 10 years.
Like others I love his book which I actually got from the audible plus catalogue, ie., free. It is well worth buying but I'd never heard of this fellow, this splendid man.
@@Anastasia91000 and misses the truth of Christ in all his eloquent syllilatry (not sure that’s a real word but I like it) I love listening to Jordan. I prefer his early classroom lectures though. But he like many other great minds is unwilling to confess Jesus as who he truly is. Read the Bible. And ask for your eyes to be opened to truth. The lord that created this universe will hear and respond. Or I’m just blowing smoke if he doesn’t.
I have never listened to such a huge heap of lies in such a short period of time. Assuming that the honorable former deputy PM is a man of dignity, truth and knowledge, he should invite a guest who has views polar opposite to what Mr Mangalvadi, the lier, espouses.
Vishal is a shallow intellectual. He is not aware the destruction and emptying of entire continents because of Christian claim of loving the neighbour. Their love is a present danger to unsuspecting humanity.
The jews did not come up with the Torah. It was delivered straight from the mouth of God through Moses to the jews. Do you really want to extol the wisdom of the jews? Here it is from the Torah: Exodus 32 verses 1 and 7-10 "And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him. ... And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves: They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people: Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation."
@@warnerchandler9826 Obviously the Jews are only reflecting what God revealed through Moses. What I'm saying is that the New Testament is not the word of God.
He was born and raised a high caste Hindu. I think he knows more about it than both of us. He also lives there and is surrounded by Hindus, and lives under a Hindu government.
@@jonorcutt3304 Really? What facts does this twit bring other than repeating "Hinduism has divided India or Hindusim as weakened India" like a broken record? Caste system comes from Manusmriti and Manusmriti is not a core of Hindu corpus as Hinduism doesn't have One book to go back to like Protestantism. It's an ever-changing fluid tradition.
@@st.mephisto8564 Here are some facts for you. Are Dalits (untouchables) forbidden to enter the temple today? They are. Was Sati- the widow burning ceremony a prevalent practice? Yes it was, even till the last century. Is Ahwamedha Yagna (Horse sacrifice), an abhorrent practice, a recorded fact? Yes it is. If Hinduism is an ever-changing fluid tradition, why was a Dalit girl lynched for taking bath in a river. And, why would an upper caste youth relieve his human 'manure' into a water tank that supplied drinking water to a village of untouchables. Both these incidents are very recent. Why was there no 'ever-changing fluid Hindu' ever condemning these incidents. Never saw any Hindutva outfit rallies against the above said incidents. Hello RSS! why not? If Manusmriti is only a fringe scripture, why is casteism a central theme of the Indian society? Evils like this made the Indian Subcontinent an easy place for the invaders. If any of these do not sound like facts to you, I should only conclude that you have completely disregarded the meaning of the word 'fact', or, you are just being mindless.
I purchased and read this book about 4 years ago. It has been a game changer in how I relate and talk to people about our society and YHWH. God is Light, and ALL good things come from Him.
see your comment...does talk about christ...this how it takes you away and deter you from jesus...anti christ.
Same here. Should be more widely read.
Which of his books are you referring? The Book that Made the World”?
@@Krillian777 yes, that's the one
@@Krillian777 yes that one. It is a great read.
His book, "The Book That Made Your World" is one of my favourites.
Vishal Mangalwadi has done much to open the eys of many to the Christian undergirding of the West and India - and many other places in the world. His books are well worth reading. Thank you John for this interview.
This is some mind-bending stuff, and I say that as one who is an avid reader in history and as someone who while having been raised in a conventional American Christian/Catholic society but who has never been what one might call religious yet as one who recognizes the crucial role the Judeo Christian concepts have had in forming the modern world; one in which India is without a doubt going to be playing a larger and larger and surely pivotal role as we move forward as I am convinced we will now thanks to the transformation of India into a modern society in which these traditionally western ideas are coming to fruition; or so I fervently hope. Thanks for bringing this remarkable perspective to us. Cheers.
I read this book 3 years ago, and it has made it to my most valuable book shelf with other great works.
Like de Tocville in the 1800's it takes an outside acute ovserver to really give us perspecti e about ourselves. A must read for anyone who wonders what the the right direction is today.
Enjoy listening to all your guests, but this one was particularly good. I've observed similar things and drawn the same conclusions, though that isn't what made this conversation good to me. It's not often you come across someone who allows you to see with fresh eyes and can elicit a new appreciation.
reading your comment has made me think I better watch it !
It makes perfect sense why Hasan Minhaj’s mother would have a picture of princess Diana next to his wedding photo. England save the widows of India. The word of God save them. It’s so heroic, so noble, it’s humbling. So profound and beautiful. Wow! Thank you!
I watched HBO's Rome Season 1 on DVD a few years back. I enjoyed it so much, I watched the commentary by the actors and writers. The lead writer, Bruno Heller, was commenting on the seeming contradiction between the parts of Romano-Greek culture that were deeply civilized (as we would see it) versus the sheer barbarity of the rest. They would take whatever they could from others and see it as the goddess Fortune smiling on them. They would slaughter without mercy the men women and children of a town that defied them, and believe that Mars smiled upon them and gave them their victory and the Fates had decreed that the others were to die. That was that.
The reason they saw no moral dilemma and we do, he said, is that Western civilization is so deeply immersed in the ethics of Christianity that we're no longer even aware of it. It's our default view of the world. Even Westerners who see themselves as atheists espouse the ethics of Christianity. It completely permeates our civilization.
Truth being brought out factually with love and concern for nations, Vishalji much needed salt for times we are living in. All pray for him to be greater impact for all nations.
This is a real eye opener! So very insightful and awe inspiring. We take concepts from the bible for granted without realizing what the world was like before it was influenced!
John, this could be your best show ever, I would have liked to hear his thoughts on the Resurrection. Maybe next time plz.
Love your work uncle John..
Wish I could give this 10 thumbs up. More real history please!
His book changed my life!!!!
A good companion to this is Schaeffer's Trilogy: The God Who Is There; He is There and Not Silent; Escape from Reason.
Fascinating glimpse into British/Indian history
Truth is truth. And this is truth.
The Common Law (Britain's greatest gift to the world) is what made making contracts easier
We should teach this in schools.
First let us digest these facts and understand completely
Would be wonderful to see John Anderson this gentleman and Jordan Peterson together.
Check out Apologetics Roadshow by David Wood, where Vishal, Jordan Peterson have done some work together recently.
Truly a fascinating book! Changes you completely
Very intriguing! Kudos to Dr. Mangalwadi!
I love that this conversation and sharing of history is helping to contextualize the East to the West. I'm woefully ignorant to this part of history. I appreciate your level of curiosity, John. Love your chats!
In Him brother. God Bless your work.
This was great. Absolutely absolutely great. This man needs to be on every TH-cam channel. People need to hear this. I will share. Thank you
I could listen to Vishal for hours. The core issues are Epistemology and Revelation. My only difference is his insistence that humankind is “free” as “God is free.” God is limited by His nature or essence. Freedom is always limited…unless you’re deceived by mythologies of the Evil One.
Brilliant.
This book is a fantastic book that I’ve had for several years and have read on more than one occasion. If you haven’t read it then you are seriously impoverished?! Simonline 🇬🇧🤔🙏😀👍
Hi Simon, yes his books are an eyeopenner to the historical workings of God in Earth. Are you British?
Thank you for interviewing this great man. He has the all the insight and twice the courage of a Rodney Stark, and I've been passing out copies of this book for 10 years.
That was heavy stuff!
I loved the book.
Like others I love his book which I actually got from the audible plus catalogue, ie., free. It is well worth buying but I'd never heard of this fellow, this splendid man.
What an incredible and rich video!
Explosive interview
What is the intro music? Thank you! Love the podcast!
Awesome!!!! Not a word was wasted.
Astounding. I'm blown away...
why?
We need to have a Wilberforce Day
That bronze chain-link sculpture is amazing!
Very interesting. Democracy established Genesis 17-18 I think
Genesis 17 nd 18..according to Sir Vishal Mangawadi is the origin of democracy..
how it is being related to democracy...please explain.
Australia has lost 60% christians to athiesm...just because of the church and bible..Mr John Anderson and Dr. Vashal Magalwadi..what do you say..
@@loyallall Sorry. My bad. Exodus: Ch 18:16-23.
@@loyallall Dr Jordan Peterson’s biblical stories might be helpful for some. He treats them like stories and comes at it from a philosophical angle.
@@Anastasia91000 and misses the truth of Christ in all his eloquent syllilatry (not sure that’s a real word but I like it) I love listening to Jordan. I prefer his early classroom lectures though. But he like many other great minds is unwilling to confess Jesus as who he truly is. Read the Bible. And ask for your eyes to be opened to truth. The lord that created this universe will hear and respond. Or I’m just blowing smoke if he doesn’t.
Brother nice good 👍👍
Woww!!
The idea of India came from the Bible. Whaaat?
Sepoy
Hey you should have some conservative Hindus on your programme too to actually talk about their beliefs.
I have never listened to such a huge heap of lies in such a short period of time. Assuming that the honorable former deputy PM is a man of dignity, truth and knowledge, he should invite a guest who has views polar opposite to what Mr Mangalvadi, the lier, espouses.
This man is shameless how corrects himself from Cristian to secular is fascinating 🤔🤡
What
Vishal is a shallow intellectual. He is not aware the destruction and emptying of entire continents because of Christian claim of loving the neighbour. Their love is a present danger to unsuspecting humanity.
Omg my ears are hurting listening to this. How can two people with all seriousness can talk such non sense with such sincerity.
Please tell in details which parts are the nonsense parts.
You simply don’t like it because you don’t want to believe what he says. That doesn’t make it nonsense. Challenge where he’s wrong factually.
@@joelvonthrum8658 correct brother.
@@sirkkuchambers1730all of it
@@Myanmartiger921okay explain why they are wrong
He is completely misrepresenting facts in sanskrit text india (Bharat) was defined exactly
Okay than just prove him wrong
@@Hoe-numan5 you are expecting Jeets to give you logical points and evidence? Forget about it
The only reason that Christianity is of any value, is that it carries with it the wisdom of the Jews. The Torah.
The jews did not come up with the Torah. It was delivered straight from the mouth of God through Moses to the jews.
Do you really want to extol the wisdom of the jews? Here it is from the Torah:
Exodus 32 verses 1 and 7-10
"And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him. ...
And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:
Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation."
@@warnerchandler9826 Obviously the Jews are only reflecting what God revealed through Moses.
What I'm saying is that the New Testament is not the word of God.
@@scout2469 err… wrong again.
@@scout2469 Jesus is the word of God my friend. Seek truth, not tradition.
I found Christianity's value comes being changed on the inside as soon as we believe in Jesus and His death on the cross for our sins.
Stockholm syndrome
Mangalwadi misrepresents Hinduism and India's past as usual. Shame on such lapdogs of Macaulay.
Please expand the right details of India's past and Hinduism.
He was born and raised a high caste Hindu. I think he knows more about it than both of us. He also lives there and is surrounded by Hindus, and lives under a Hindu government.
@@sirkkuchambers1730 he has none to share. Just a BS ridicule with no backing. TH-cam Is filled with them.
@@jonorcutt3304 Really? What facts does this twit bring other than repeating "Hinduism has divided India or Hindusim as weakened India" like a broken record?
Caste system comes from Manusmriti and Manusmriti is not a core of Hindu corpus as Hinduism doesn't have One book to go back to like Protestantism. It's an ever-changing fluid tradition.
@@st.mephisto8564 Here are some facts for you. Are Dalits (untouchables) forbidden to enter the temple today? They are. Was Sati- the widow burning ceremony a prevalent practice? Yes it was, even till the last century. Is Ahwamedha Yagna (Horse sacrifice), an abhorrent practice, a recorded fact? Yes it is. If Hinduism is an ever-changing fluid tradition, why was a Dalit girl lynched for taking bath in a river. And, why would an upper caste youth relieve his human 'manure' into a water tank that supplied drinking water to a village of untouchables. Both these incidents are very recent. Why was there no 'ever-changing fluid Hindu' ever condemning these incidents. Never saw any Hindutva outfit rallies against the above said incidents. Hello RSS! why not? If Manusmriti is only a fringe scripture, why is casteism a central theme of the Indian society? Evils like this made the Indian Subcontinent an easy place for the invaders. If any of these do not sound like facts to you, I should only conclude that you have completely disregarded the meaning of the word 'fact', or, you are just being mindless.
This is pure propoganda
How can you explain
Counter him with your ‘superior’ knowledge….it is the reality after 2014!
@@Hoe-numan5Christian west has fallen
@@Myanmartiger921 what
@@Myanmartiger921 West has rejected Christianity that's why it has fallen! 🤡