WHY CHRISTIANS MAKE BAD EX'S||SEASON 4 EP2||Christianity in Relationships FT Sharon K Mwangi
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
- In this episode we embark on a journey into the heart of Christian faith and its practical application in the realm of relationships. Join us as we delve deep into the core principles of Christianity and how they can enrich and guide our interactions with loved ones.
Check out our guest: / sharonkmwangi
Completely unrelated but petition to see Barack's face. Thank you 😅
Let's be careful with being influenced by Christian 'influencers' we should measure what they're saying with the word of God, otherwise most of us will fall. Do not be afraid to worship God and being termed as 'too spiritual.' Lifting of hands and laying prostrate are just a basic thing for Christians to do while worshipping their maker.
Christians read you Bible and let the Holy Spirit guide you.
Do not conform to the standards of the world why?? coz you're the light and salt of the world. Let this stick.
Very true,, good content might end up mocking the principles of God governing our lives,, or even mislead the babes in spirit
True.trying to be cool.aint it
Some people fake it and just want to show off when they kneel or lay on the ground. When you look at their posture of their hearts it's when you'll be able to determine if they're genuine.That's what they're trying to say.
Yesssss
I beg to respectfully differ. There is also dramatics that are usually applied especially with some denominations that have nothing to do with God and spirituality. This is why we have all these charlatans masquerading as pastors and bishops all over. My experience with these demon-casting, spiritually expressive Christians is that they are also very poor of character. We need to be very discerning of these so-called spiritual people.
Also, the Bible also says that not everyone who calls God God will enter the kingdom of heaven.
At the end of the day, I think it's important to be honest with self, without hiding under the umbrella of 'faith'. To ask self "Does this lead me closer to Christ? does it glorify Christ? and does it build up and edify my brothers and sisters in the faith'
Ukiwa na shati ya white, ukae kwa vumbi usishtuke shati ikiwa chafu jioni.
It genuinely bothers me that Ben and Shiru speak of sth like Blankets and wine like that. Jina wine shenanigans aside.
I mean surely what relationship does light have with darkness? Like even the music and mannerisms there, do they glorify God? Are people there challenged to embrace the Gospel, by which if they don't, they will burn in hell eternally.
Yes seminars are overrated, go on dates. Play games with friends. Go for road trips together. Go for plays, go for art events.
We are saved at a cost and that put the Son of God on the cross.
Are you guys even allowing yourselves to be challenged by the gospel? Even in arguing. Where is the place of the Gospel? Where is the place of our minds being renewed to show Christ? (Rom 12:1-2)
I mean lets be honest with ourselves truly. If we're really in the faith and all in or claim to be while forming friendship with the world. cc James 4:4
Lastly, it's interesting the Bible says when we accept Christ, we become adopted into the family of God. That once we were children of disobedience and wrath.
To mean, ONLY when we accept Christ do we experience forgiveness of sin and adoption into the family of God. Only then do we move from darkness to light.
Its a hard message but we're not all God's favorites. Rather, we are not all children of God. Otherwise, the word adoption wouldn't be used. Let him who has ears hear.
Does the Lord still love us all? Absolutely! Infinitely more than we can imagine. Did Christ die for all of us? Yes. But only those who believe in Him will not die but live.
And the truth is, if we continue lying to people that they are many ways to God and they're okay when the Bible clearly says "No one comes to the Father apart from Jesus Christ. The wages of sin is death" we'll be gravely irresponsible honestly.
And yes, self righteousness is a sin. I'm talking about speaking and living the truth which should make one bear more of the fruit of the spirit. Vs self righteousness which so ugly.
, Faith is a beautiful gift.
Now you are the only one saying the truth. We can't call ourselves Christians without following the Bible. People should read their Bibles not just on their phones but physical ones. It's not looking good out here❤
Thanks sana🙌🙌
@@lionelleethel6524 Completely true
Nice to know I'm not the only one who sniffed the guilt tripping from a mile away👏
I totally agree with you. Ben and Shiru seems to be advocating for this hot and cold kinda Christianity. That's why in their videos you can see Shiru drinking alcoholic wine as Ben sips juice. It means He sees no problem with His wife taking alcohol..the cost of disciplineship is self denial. We must subject ourselves to be guided by the scriptures and scriptures alone. Advocating for blanket and wine entertainment shows really shocked me.
I really love you guys and on the issue of overspirituality apo i kinder disagree with you guys please there are babes in faith and there listening to you please. Being Spiritual is the only way to have a fellowship with God ,God is a Spirit and and he desires that those who worship should do so in truth and in Spirit..there is nothing like being OVERSPIRITUAL
There is spirituality and then there’s religion. What some people are is over-religious even when it’s uncalled.
Ben, Wanjiru and Sharon already explained it at the beginning of the discussion: using religion to manipulate and to avoid responsibility/accountability
From what I am learning in Christ, dating is for marriage and not to figure out what we like and do not like. We are responsible for ourselves and that includes knowing ourselves and what we like and don't. I believe we have the power to do that with Christ. As Christians we are meant to lean on Christ for an identity in Him, we should focus on Him to give us direction. It can get dangerous to date just to figure out what we prefer in a partner because in a way that is using other people and their hearts too; This goes without saying that even during that dating time, we are more likely to fall into sexual sin with the people we will date during that process. But what will we have to show for it other than soul ties?
That whole topic is hard because we are imperfect humans and some things are easier said that done. We must not rely solely on our own understanding because that can be deceitful at times. We can do anything through Him and yes it is possible!
Wow 😊 I love your insights
I watched this episode today and had very similar opinions because when we become Christians we are supposed to be more like Christ so it's not about what we like or figuring out who we are it's more like leaning on what our creator says we are,what does Jesus say I am like our identity should be found in Christ literally and marriage is a covenant so it's not supposed to be personally on any level.
😅I feel like much more key issues could have been discussed.
My opinion on 'too spiritual’ is that we all have different levels that we are at spiritually and our surrender to God is also totally different .
And I also feel like when you understand that Without God you are nothing then our fellowship with Him becomes more intimate😊.
And there’s nothing better than being in His presence so why not give your all . He is such a Good Father 😊
so there’s no problem guys with being termed 'too spiritual’
True. Furthermore were spirits living in mortal bodies and have a soul. I truly appreciate your sentiments on the matter 💯. We shall not be silenced Change or perish😂. Guilt tripping doesn't work try another strategy.
This episode was a joke that’s all
When I remember some pastor 'prophesying' over my life that I should get back with my ex since I'm the light that will drive out his darkness. We thank God for the gift of discernment
😂😂😂It was a prank. You took it too seriously😂
😂😂eey some preachers joke big time .Honestly that sounds like liar Ezekiel
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Loving the podcast though in my opinion i have to say its either your 🔥❄️ , many people are confirming to this world just to be cool .... can we just be real about our heavenly father and our lives as He guides us, saa ingine being led by our own understanding is not the best way
Sharon and Wanjiru look alike❤ Gorgeous babes
If I heard right,Ben said kneeling while worshipping is being over spiritual??
Well, someone said it here there's no lukewarm in the things of God
It's either in or out .
Life itself is spiritual.
Well... I hear the weaponizing aspect of christianity which is mostly what is talked of but in my opinion if me and my partner hit walls or cant seem to find a solution to whatever is going on id like to take a step back and ask that God help me understand my partner to help secure the relationship at the moment and to help me communicate my views well to my partner.
😊😂😂😂maybe we should have joyride events monthly as fun Christian events
Even before the conversation begins, there's this vibe that overwhelms the Environment 😊😂....
You made me a real Joyrider❤😂😂
10:11 The "let's pray about it" line could be a manifestation of two things : first being you cannot move without hearing from God which is unhealthy co dependence and second being you will not move without hearing from God which is submission to His will while also making your own choices.
I really enjoyed this Episode, i love you all, Sharon is amazing, i love her spiritual journey and how she is very open about it. However, i was hoping that you guys would talk about the intimate parts of dating as a christian, about waiting till marriage and how to navigate that, i feel like this topic is not talked about alot.
Exactly I agree
I feel like there wasn't enough research done before this episode. So much more could've been said
It was shallow...
My sisterrrrrtr😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆Njeri nimeona umetagiwa hapo new episode 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Also 💯agree
Ben on the insight of the church not knowing how to define dating....thats so true it hits hard,well said
I love the way you give us breaks
So we never feel overwhelmed about your content.
Super informative
The fact Sharon is hereee 😍🥰and the topic i am excited alreadyy💃
Wanjiru i love love the hair
Ben thank you 😊
a part 2 would be nice. loved this episode
It's giving luke warm😮
Am happy to see sharon😊❤i really love her
Such a beautiful conversation❤
This was so good... you should definitely talk about the next topic Wanjiru mentioned 🔥🔥
Such a great conversation...
Loved this episode!
I love you guys I have been waiting for season 4 I am really love your show ❤❤❤❤❤ keep it us
The fruit of the spirit is love joy peace patience kindness faithfulness humility and self control. That is proof that a Christian is actually led by the Spirit of God. The bible says that we should not conform to the patterns of the world but rather be transformed by the RENEWAL of our minds. Definitely its God who transforms us no by our strength or might but through His Spirit. Personally i don't get why people are offended by them saying they prefer not dating an overspiritual person juu some of us christians we overspiritualize everything and some of the things are not even in the bible. Yet God has made things less complicated than we make them.
Sharon that giggle makes me predict a bright light tonight and a voice telling me we should go out for coffee.
Really nice convo. Truth is we need to pray for wisdom in every situation and if anything God is the epitome of wisdom so people who think they can dupe believers should know the image of wisdom that we bear
Maybe you guys can start a cool event, we'll come. Not just the live shows, good music, good food, good vibes
About Christian events I have thought about it so much....
Don't I just love Sharon K Mwangi❤❤❤
I feel like lukewarm Christians are bothered by people who take the word of God seriously 😮
Exactly what I thought too …
Very true
I couldn't agree more
Finally someone said it
I second that too
key take away: As Christians we should work on our characters on top of spirituality and we should also work on healing our wounds and traumas.
Great conversation☺always here for Ben's Jokes
I really like how you articulated the conversation in this episode ✨quite interesting.
This was an intriguing session🔥🔥.Ben the comedian😂😂. Love Sharon❤ 21:10 😭. Love her Podcast-Best Kept Secrets. Road to 100K twende💃🏿.
This is going to be fire 😂😂😂
Beautiful episode ❤❤
ghai sharon apo kwa kwenda Church na ''maybe that's him" mentality. So God deliver me! I realized that sometimes i may miss out on what God wants for me just coz am 'distracted'....hio mchezo waschana tuwache🤣
Removing the faith is a 'no' 'no... Relationships are hard already...we need the 'faith'....following
Hii kitu ukikosa Mungu mtapiga nduru bana😂😂😂
Sharon is just a swt soul n beautiful 😍 I just follow her podcast
You guys always dropping so much wisdom ❤❤. Keep going 👏🏼👏🏼
On the forgiveness issue (between spouses or even others), I’d say it’s a knowledge issue. When we know how much God forgave us even when we didn’t deserve it, then forgiveness becomes an achievable end goal, since we’re a New Creation In Christ. It may not come right away, but eventually will as we delve into the word of God and receive His love & right Knowledge. Looking forward to the next one ❤❤
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I see the comment section how your voices are valued and influential in this generation. Thank you for being Jasiri and putting your human selves out there. While, I respect your use of free will Wanjiru, Ben and Sharon. Requesting for such episodes, call scholars who can give biblical evidences or people who guide youths in the faith. That way people can listen to Truth and decide for themselves. Kwanza I feel like the topic of intimacy people are asking for, may be a trap. The word of God on it is greater than your personal stories, praying that your producer may have wisdom so that our babes in the faith can be guided.
I was a victim of not seeming so spiritual, especially so that guys would date me. But my assignment is bigger than that. I am glad I am following Christ , getting heavenly encounters that cannot be compared to anything. A great prophetess this generation needs but I would rather not listen to coz at times I am asked to call out, but they like when I have an encouraging message from Him.
Thanks for this comment :) @@yvonnewanjiru3962
It's not theatrics! Please read on manifestation of the Holy spirit. We don't do this for man. That's where you all go wrong. Which begs the question; what's the posture of YOUR heart? Do you 'cool' worship to please people and why? As a youth pastor,Ben,this one kidogo umemock kidogo
This couldn't have been said any better😅
hello, just came across with this and .....man,
i would say it was literally for me for real.
Am still confused till today that i met this piano guy in church i was in the praise worship team at that time😂we were in the spirit lol😂mimi nilikua najua mbinguni tunaenda 😂he was so nice i was in love but let me tell you the devil 😂😂we made love and made a baby 6years now but let me tell you how this man changed I don't know aki has never been in his kid's life but i accepted single motherhood kabisa and am okay😂am so cautious on this church guys upto date😢but i know God hears my cry and one day my heart will be healed#therr is one out here kept for me❤
Same story with mine
But I rededicated my life to Christ now I read the word and Pray I'm no longer a church goer am in Christ now
Obeying His word.
Many people just go to pentecostal churches but they are not born again they are not living for Christ
Like Jesus said we are known by our fruits
@@salomeshiran1660 i agree with out about re-dedicating but allow me to disagree with not going to church 🥰I will go to church and ask God for guidance if anyone comes into my life I will ask God to give me signs even in my sleep if he is not the one please show me the red flags as early as possible 🥰go to church girl it's not wrong even if you were hurt
@@salomeshiran1660 I was so angry with life 😂 I started doing the things of the world 😂 I have done them for real ,but I can attest to you nothing is more peaceful than the love of God and knowing you are nothing without him 🥰
This episode was good. Would definitely benefit to have a follow up conversation to talk about the hard facts like Wanjiru said on fornication, what boundaries should look like, living with a partner before marriage etc. An experienced married couple may work better for this topic.
The intro...🎉
Moi university main campus-Kesses🥳🥳🥳🥳 I'm really looking forward to seeing you guys ❤ joyride 🎉🥳
Wanjiru looks gorgeous ❤❤
Wow❤
First day of serving in youth church in training : most of these kids come to meet boys or girls.. I thought everyone knew lol. Add: Karen Vineyard Church has an amazing divorce care ministry , that's a good resource.. different churches have beautiful things going on.
Kenya National Theatre, next venue!
One day we would like to know what is christian dating
Like practical aspect looking forward to that Ben and Wanjiru. Maybe start the conversation
Eh eh eh....I've never waited for an episode ivi❤❤❤
i saw that Sharon was a guest and this was a must-watch. Is it only me or do these two ladies look alike?
I always confused sharon and wanjiru😂😂 and joy kendi ,nancy mwai
The Edge conference🤗🤗
I love love the topic today! Though I really wish Nyawira was in this episode.😢
Sameee.
I watched the whole podcast and i loved it. Except the part where you called the moves of the Holy Spirit theatrics. When the Spirit moves or when the power of the Holy Spirit comes upon you. You can't control yourself. If you are Christians and you have experienced it you know what i mean. You can cry, you can shout, you can even start laughing or even running. Thats being drunk with the Spirit. I won't lie some people fake it but you can't be adressing the moves of the Spirit as theatrics. Actually that is one of the sin that the scripture says you can never be forgiven of. Sinning against the Holy Spirit. And how do you sin against the Holy Spirit? By calling his moves fake or theatrics as you did. I love watching your videos actually this is the only podcast i watch.
Amen sis❤
I agree. It is easier to speak about things that we have not experienced yet. We, humans also speak from a point of preference in that we would not fancy people who are doing those 'theatrics' because maybe it is embarrassing for us. That does not give us the right to call it theatrics manze. For those who say such 'overspiritual' people need to be vetted are the ones who need vetting.
Kenya Methodist University, Meru, for the next Joyride campus tour🥳🥳
Beennnnn plssssssss
Mnasahauimgii meru saana
Joyride campus tour to Meru would be awesome 🎉🎉🎉
MUKUJE KCA CHA LAZIMA😭😭😭❤❤
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Eeey Sylvia🎉
Mmeanza kufanana😂😍😍😍
😂😂😂sharon w the side eyes
Edge convention should be the new location
We want you in Mombasa banaa
Ben is such a vibe manze 😂😂 Ben penye tutapana nitatoa sadaka😂😂
Kemsa was just chilling 😂🤣 Aki Ben 😂😂
How Ben laughs at his jokes makes it even funnier 🤣🤣
I like this conversation. My 2 cents: On church and divorce, different churches have different ways of dealing with divorce. Like in our church, when it comes to violence, divorce is allowed. Another thing it’s important to use all avenues available to reconcile before jumping on the divorce bandwagon. I know a church that believes that before remarrying, there are a lot of questions that need to be answered before being remarried. Or there are churches that have divorce care which is great.
At the end of the day, it’s important to understand ultimate reality (ie, understanding that whatever happens here physically has its origins spiritually). And the need to understand, what would Jesus do in this situation. So that means we need to tarry in God’s presence to enable us know what He says, and ask the Holy Spirit to guide in everything.
Exactly what am feeling.. Christian’s don’t have a lot of fun events.. am really struggling and sometimes feel judged when I go places to have fun 😔
Well it depends on what kind of fun do you want to have. Is it the worldly kind of pleasure? Scripture tells us to examine ourselves and see if we are in the faith.
When we become christians we have to deny ourselves daily and pick up our cross. That is the cost!
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When Wanjiru said that pre 25s you should not date for marriage 😂i tell you i need Gods intervention for that coz i am kinda obsessed with that 😅 but am slowly learning on self awareness
Hey, (my opinion) I think one can still date for marriage and still work on self awareness. Some guys get married young, like akina Wixx and it works out
@@khroniclesofkoko thanks girl 😊
No pressure but I also side on Wanjiru on this,infact pre25s is it was Upto me,no dating at all
@@phoebemwaniki8298 completely understand and respect where you are coming from
Ben, ungeanua tu hizo nguo mara moja, sasa ona 😂😂😂
Why do i so much identify with sharon?😂😂😂
Aki Ben Na Wanjiru please kujeni mku kuna sisi wenye we really want to experience and were not around when you guys came
I really loved this episode ❤❤❤
lakini Ben...mukurino cute tena😆😆😆
On that fun events point ya Ben. Anyone that knows a plug for Christian karaoke. Please put us on
I've been craving this!!! Kuja leo city lighters for worship tho as we figure it out😊
ya'll should come to Murang'a University of Technology
Wanjiru laughing in a way that pleases the Lord😭😂😂
ben enda blanket's next year😂😂
Wanjiru and Ben, all marriages that people bear a marriage certificate given by government, are contractual. If you have a marriage certificate from the GoK of Kenya, then you have a contract with each other, which is governed by the Marriage Act and other rulings of the Judiciary regarding marriage. If you only went to church and exchanged vows but you did not legalise your marriage, then you have no legal contract. But as we all know it, most Kenyan couples have marriages registered legally so they have a contract. This is something most Christians do not know, since they are usually given the certificate by the Priest/Pastor in Church. I am a Christian so I would prefer to have no legal contract, but if we must have it, then I would like to draw my own contract with my future husband, instead of my marriage being governed by the general marriage law/contract.
kujeni karatina university
Part two??
Tuwekeeni hio live experience ground kubwa 😅😅 what was the name of yhe grounds at ruaka🤣🤣the onee opposite two rivers 😅😅
Ben aren't you a gospel artist?why dont you host christian event and make them fun
I mean blankets and wines is muthoni's idea right?
😊 also you can say you get bored not that the events are boring
This was such an interesting convo. Something with over spiritual or religious people is concentrating so much on heaven forgetting that we are here now. Ukiniona Folk Fusion si eti wokovu umepungua. Either way, let's learn to develop a relationship with God.
I don't deny there are the young believers who don't act out in love by malice and slander BUT by the fact that your living in sin and acting out as unbelievers especially being in places that express carnality. I don't think Jesus would love to be in Folk Fusion EVER though loving as He is and by the fact that it is HE who lives in your mortal body. Don't you know that you'll be grieving the Holy Spirit?Before using the overspiritual remark make sure it's not a guilt tripping mechanism to other believers as you continue advocating your compromise. This is what the LGBTQ say the church is too religious while knowing very well what the word says.
There is also a clear line between the secular and the carnal.
@@markmaina7884exactly my point the standards of God are clear it's holiness.there are church goers and followers of Christ
@@markmaina7884you mean the same Jesus who dined in tax collectors’ homes and had prostitutes in his company? Why do we act as if we do not live in this world and are really holy even beyond the one whom but for his grace, we would be hopeless?
@@wangarikariuki6522 @wangarikariuki6522 The Holy Spirit is a person and has His own desires or 'cravings' that he would like us to embody as Believers. He doesn't say don't interact with unbelievers but he says love them as you continue to walk in the path of light. Is it easy? No! but His precious GRACE is sufficient to live above sin. For through Christ we have been set free from the law of sin and death as Romans 8: 2 says. If we who His love has been poured unto our hearts to don't live in Holiness away from what corrupts. How can we be the burning light that magnifies Jesus if we still do what the unbelievers do? We still crave for what the world gives while proclaiming that we have received everything from our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It's true;Jesus walked with the tax collectors who were seen as sellouts at that time. Is there any scripture against walking with tax collectors? Even John the Baptist told the tax collectors do not collect more than you are required. He didn't say quit your jobs!
That's an extra Biblical teaching which came in the 430yrs of silence from God. Jesus never went against His own Word. It is a sin to go to places that His name is Not magnified. Oohh now you'll ask if we should work? Doesn't the Bible recommend the same?
We live in a secular world but the choice of free will God has graced us with is to choose between what is carnal( flesh) and the spiritual ( life). It's a battle for every believer but the Bible tell us we have overcome so the only adjustment is to renew our minds to be able to behold the beauty of whom we have received (The Messiah, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, The Alpha and Omega). Should we grieve Him whom we have pledged to Honor with our bodies and souls? Then why would the Temple of God being that Christ lives in us be taken to a place where there is debauchery?
There's no one holier than Thou as you've said but same Bible says in 1 Pet 1:16 Be holy, because Iam Holy. Our actions show clearly which spirit we worship if it the Holy Spirit or the enemy! Man was created to worship God in our actions with simply how we live our lives according to the word of God. Let be the burning light. Don't dim it to fit in to the world's standard of what a believer in Jesus should be. As the Bible says I Cor 5:20: we are therefore Christ ambassadors, as though God were making His appeal through us. The appeal is to be lead by the His precious Holy Spirit as we magnify Christ and exalt His word.
Not Ben switching church because of girl's 😂😂the fact that both wanjiru and Sharon expected an yes😅😅😅
Ben hata mimi nilikuona gym next i will say hi 👌
Is it my videos that aren't too clear in this season ama😢
Same to mine 🥲
Welcome guys sauti TU ya Ben the baze the sound i n clear hey wanjiru
Reading some comments here, I see some people have really been triggered with the over-religiosity that some people practice. I’m usually amused by some theatrics I see some folks doing. God is already mighty enough, beyond our limited imagination, He doesn’t even need all the dramatics.
When Elijah went up to the mountain to seek God, he looked for him in the fires, earthquakes, winds and whatnot but God finally appeared to him calmly.
So really, let’s stop with the dramatics
What will you say about Acts when the Holyspirit came upon people. how about the Israelites needing a King because God walking with them was too much for them to handle? We can't just pick and choose scripture suit us in a certain situation. Very dangerous.
I have accepted, I may have limitation of not knowing people's intention as they worship.
Good reminder, I am not God.
Also,where do you get time to vet if someone is doing "theatrics" whilst y'all are worshipping? At my father's house I get to be undignified (refer to dunsin oyekan). Church holds thieves,liars,fornicators,adulterers, murderers bc they have come for salvation. Not perfect people.
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Dada yangu chukua fanta baridi kwa bill yangu
6 minutes in and Ben asks were you ashamed of the gospel of Christ😭Ben you are ungovernable😂
Haha not King David dancing, clothes falling, and others mocking. The man after God's own heart ndio uyo 😂😂
What do you mean the bash is soon?😂😂😂😂😂you guys don't go for another break "soon"