Super Game Boy: One of Nintendo's Best Ideas
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- Gaming Historian teaches you everything you need to know about the Super Game Boy / Super Game Boy 2. Playing Game Boy games on your television in color was cool enough, but the Super Game Boy was so much more.
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I remember on my 10th birthday, my Mom gave me a Gamecube that was bundled with Zelda: Collector's Edition, Super Smash Bros. Melee, and the Gameboy Player. That was a good bithday.
Happy times :)
I was in high school when that came out
Bithday
Ok
*b i t h d a y*
the gameboy was a gift from my grandma, she was old and never even knew what a video game was, yet she went to the shop, got me a gameboy with super mario land and gave it to me on my graduation.....i loved my grandma and it was things like this, such memories that reminds me of her and how much she meant to me as a kid....God bless everyone as this year ends and remember your late family members for their good deeds :)
Rami Merehbi R.I.P your grandma. :c
Imagine making fun of someone’s dead family member just because they’re old
Awesome grandma, did she bought anything for your sister?
Cool grandma! Hope you still have that tank of a GameBoy! I never had one, so I bought one on ebay this year :D
Dont grandmas rule? I miss mine too and shes been gone for over 20 years. She used to get me all the best Atari 2600 games!😊
I got a Super GameBoy 2 a few months ago. It is, hands-down, the BEST way to play the Generation 1 Pokemon games.
Pokemon Stadium built in emulator is substantially better.
@@fshoaps It's missing all the bonus features and only works with three games.
TerribleVidsHD but he was referring to plAying pokemon games
@@fshoaps yeah, but SGB has all the features and more provided you aren't transporting pokemon
TerribleVidsHD nah, but okay
9:44
I think the reason for not having a link cable port was because of the slight speed increase. That would quickly cause desyncs. The SGB2, which played games at the correct speed, did have a link cable port.
You could presumably connect two Super Game Boys in two SNESes connected to two TVs, but it's hard to imagine any consumer demand for such a feature.
But did they even realize there was a slight speed increase at first? That's what I wonder, because why not fix it if they had noticed it? They did fix it later so it seemed like they couldve fixed it whenever they had wanted to, & it seems far fetched to me that they didnt release something because of a slight speed increase like they were being held hostage by something that seems like it only needed a simple fix.
What's more likely is that they simply did not believe it was wanted or necessary until pokemon changed customer demands. Occams Razor
@@frankmarano1118 The SGB1 uses the SNES clock speed divided by 5 as a timing reference, which is 4.295 MHz instead of the correct 4.194 MHz. This was done intentionally so that a crystal oscillator would not have to be included in the SGB, reducing manufacturing costs (I assume they decided it was close enough that most people wouldn't notice). The SGB2 does include a crystal oscillator, which is why it can run at the correct speed. I assume they only decided to do this so they could have the link port, as including the link port was probably the entire reason they made the SGB2, likely because of Pokémon.
TL;DR the SGB1 runs too fast intentionally, so they could omit some hardware to reduce costs, not because of a software bug or something. The SGB2 includes this extra hardware, so it can run at the correct speed and have the link port.
@@Coaster42 Ah thank you, you cleared up any doubts I had. Now it all makes perfect sense. Only once customer demand for that feature started showing up did they decide to attempt to fix the issue, where before it was a non issue & actually done on purpose to keep manufacturing costs low.
I didnt expect such a swift reply from a 5 year old comment but I do appreciate it!
Did it use the SNES sound chip's clock?
- "SNES can't run GameBoy games,what do we do ?"
- "Let's just put the whole goddamn console in there !"
Nintendo,1994
Well, to be fair the SNES didn't run much things by its own lol, the myth is that even developpers joked about the SNES being a shell able to play all the chips they could fit inside the games haha.
That was in regards to games that used the Super FX chip specifically, as the games were running off of the Super FX processor, and not the one in the Super NES.
1993. Not '94.
"the SNES didn't run much things by its own".. Yeah... like 80% of the games. Not so much uh?
The SNES played a lot. It was only because the development of the N64 was behind schedule and the SNES had reached it's limits that special cartridge chips became commonly used.
Also using a gameboy system is by far the easiest and most reliable way of doing it. If you take away the buttons, screen and batteries it can fit inside a standard SNES cartridge just fine.
Hi everyone!
The Super Game Boy was a special accessory for me growing up, so I was really excited to make this video. Hope you enjoy watching it as much as I enjoyed making it.
Have a safe and Happy Holiday / New Year!
Gaming Historian Its not gaming history per say but you should look into retrobit they make a GBA version of super gameboy made for the super nes.
Gaming Historian do the GameBoy color next if you haven't. If not do the Game Boy player
I totally agree, the Game Boy was my first system too (outside of an Atari 800XL {groan}) & I LOVED IT! Tetris & The Amazing Spider-Man were my first two games; I still have my original GameBoy today with my original games 25yrs later. Love that little grey brick.
Gaming Historian Thank you for showing footage of Gargoyle's Quest. Not enough people know about that gem.
im 15 now this channel helped me want a super nintendo which i got for christmas last year however for several months the only games i had for it were super metroid and super mario all stars so i decided to buy more games one of which was the super game boy and pokemon blue, kirby 2, and final fantasy legends 2
Love the high production quality, the editing and sound mixing are just wonderful. It feels like I'm watching an actual documentary, and a good one at that. Please keep making these.
The Gameboy was also my first personally owned system. When I bought my second system, a SNES; it came with a coupon for the Super Gameboy. I only played GB using that from then on. It is the best way to play GameBoy games. I'm glad there are people that appreciate this kind of amazing history. It's gotta be the start of the switch here.
Left out something massive important while covering Pokemon. The clock speed difference affected random number generation and while playing Pokemon red/blue/yellow on a SGB1, when you used a move that did between 3 and 5 attacks, it always, always did three. The clock speed fix in the SGB2 was specifically to address that, since the whole SGB2 was made for the Pokemon games.
mattorama yooooo this kid’s hairline looking like a deadass spaid
Seriously? I feel like that wouldn't be a clock speed issue, I overclocked my DMG and I have had it do more than 3 for like Doubleslap or wrap
RNG is one value so other things like encounters would also be affected.
mattorama Now that, is really interesting.
You need to make a video on the GB Hunter. That thing is incredibly crappy. I want one.
+just2good it's pretty bad. I'll be covering it in a future video on 3rd party Game Boy players!
My parents when I was growing up with the Game Boy at night *Expecially while on the road.
"Turn it off you'll hurt your eyes.."
Noooh. This haz no save!
D:
Oh hey Just2good. You sure get around. though it would be more interesting to see a video on the Phantom considering Valve recently came out with the Steam Machines.
There was another device WIDEBOY 64.There were 2 versions one could play GB and GBC games and other could play GB,GBC and GBA games.It was only available for devs only and it was developed by Intelligent Systems
just2good awwwww I found you but not sure n your videos I subed
"Imagine this. You're playing all your favourite Game Boy (R) games on a giant 26-inch screen."
Those were the days :D
@Aiden the Tech Boy holy shit people are calling special characters emojis instead of alt codes now, I feel so old
thecianinator that's because those are actual emojis and not the alt codes
@@advanturepie They show up as vanilla unicode characters to me
thecianinator I see
I can not say how high the production value of your series is and how much I appreciate it. I can tell this is a passion project for you, this series could be a series on the history channel and it would be deserving.
We hung out at a kid's house who had this and played Pokemon on the big screen. Watching color battles on their giant tube TV was AMAZING. It also added value to my gameboy, because I could play a game there, then take it with me when I was done to play at home. I borrowed several of their gameboy games this way, and we'd play our personal version of pokemon on it. The dream we had was to link-connect with the TVs. Later, Pokemon Stadium would be an underwhelming response to that wish.
That link cable on the SGB2 would've made our lives.
Even though this didn't exist back then, there's way to mod the SBG to have a link port. And another one to remove that slight high pitch and slightly higher speed due to the incorrect clock speed.
This is one of those things I want to do just to satisfy that loose end in my childhood wants. I can imagine putting all the effort in, playing it once and then never touching it again.
I gotta admit I never knew a super gameboy 2 existed
Sonic 1991 Pretty sure the majority of us didn't
they should make a super game gear
***** kiss my supper balls thunder stealer
Human3v3 the resolution of the 3ds is 240p tho
I didn't know about it until I watched Game Sack's Gameboy video.
ahhhhhhh so much nostalgia great to see a youtuber who grew up with the original game boy
This was the Nintendo Switch before the Nintendo Switch
No, that was the Wii U
DatLegoMann: Yeah, like Usf2.
@The SNES Man You can dock you handheld game into a tv (like if it was a regular home console). The comparison is pretty fair, and its only made for fun purpose.
David V except that you dont dock this thing at all, the sega nomad was probably among the first if not the first you actually hooked up to a tv rather than just putting the cartridge into a home console
not the same thing
The SNES Man Even other modern consoles?
Oh man. The Game Boy Player for the gamecube was sooo incredible.
How did I never know about this?
God i love that Pokemon gold music
Same bro
I could not recall the game, thank you
Damn, It brings up so much memories from middle school.
Opening song is actually from Pokémon Pinball for GBC!
I think it brainwashed me. Even to this day, I can occasionally hear that screechy 8-bit, 16 bit?, music playing when I'm on my smart phone, especially if I'm playing games (Clash Royale.)
You have NO idea how happy it makes me tosee Gargoyle's Quest getting some love. It was my all time favourite original GameBoy game, (and the first I ever owned), and it's mostly forgotten and criminally underrated. THANK YOU!
Love your channel man, I’m 39, and never stopped playing my NES, in fact still using the same console to teach my kids how to play, to this very day.
I had this and loved it
I also later had the GBA one that plugs on the bottom of the Gamecube. That was definitely a good investment because my sister and I were always playing our GBAs, and sometimes one of us could take the TV and the other would watch while doing something else.
"They're pretty easy to find these days"
I got mine in like maybe 2000, and I found it in a store that sold random old stuff. I remember it not being expensive
I had a super game boy and it was AMAZING! I loved the different background templates, drawing them, changing color palates. It was the best.
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Oh something you might like to know Norm, while Space Invaders was region free, the SNES game locked inside wasn't. (Found that out the hard way as a kid - The Super Gameboy wasn't released for nearly half a year later in Europe, so I Imported a US one >.>)
That must have been a bummer.
Larry Bundy Jr I love how little people are commenting on this. It's Larry Bundy Jr commenting, yet it has 3 replies.
Larry Bundy Jr now where do i know you from? ;)
Joego
Lol, its not really something that you can respond to. but its "technically" the only region locked gameboy game.
Larry Bundy Jr Weird. Does that make the GB version of Space Invaders the smallest SNES cart?
I love gaming historian and hearing and seeing the old school system true nostalgia
Honestly, you make the best video game documentaries. Excellent job
I like the longer hair.. Super game boy seems rad
Nice profile picture, that Coroner album is great.
My brother and his many hippi-kinda friends, when i had an ponytail i would walk to small room to game and there are 4 dudes with ponytails too..... I noticed that if something is cool and works without effort, there must be some kinda trap...
now i have to get smart look 2 times a year because it grows out of cntrl
He should grow a long beard to go with it. Really go for the ancient philosopher look.
FearAbsentia No More Color was awesome, have a bootleg tape of it
Great video man! The Super Game Boy is one of the best accessories ever made!
Also real talk, Donkey Kong on the Game Boy is so incredibly underrated.
I really like that game too
I just recently discovered these things and I finally got one just today! It’s by far the coolest thing I’ve bought for my Nintendo collection yet, and I just learnt about the mouse and printer accessories, as well as the second Super Gameboy so thanks for sharing that part!
Man everything about this video brings back SOOOOOO many good memories! 😭😊
I'm soo glad I was a kid in this era!!! 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
1:55 Thanks for showing this, since I was a kid I wondered how the stores connected Gameboys to TVs
I own. A sp but it was not a 101 model
I swear every time one of your videos ends I think she's going to say "is funded in part by viewers like you"
I was thinking the same thing. Reminded me of my childhood watching PBS shows like Reading Rainbow and Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego.
J Williams I never really watched carmen, idk why. I watched it a few times. I watched Arthur mostly and later Zoom when I was at my grandparents house where they had antenna tv.
DeathToDrugUsers21 Thank you.
DeathToDrugUsers21 Arthur. I remember that show.. That was the rat with glasses. I just randomly remembered Bananas In Pajamas and Magic School Bus..
Arthur's actually an aardvark.
It's fun seeing all the stuff from my childhood come by.
I was a lucky one to own the NES/SNES/MegaDrive II/GB (with the HUGE addon for light and magnifying glass).
After all the retro gaming videos I’ve watch in the last several years your channel finally popped up on my TH-cam radar. Just subscribed and looks like I have some catching up to do.
that glorious mane of hair tho.
Another beautiful episode, Norm! Fantastic work!
Congrats on 1m man! Been watching since 2015!
Yep, really enjoyed this video. I'd picked up a vague impression of what the Super Game Boy does over bits and pieces I've heard over the years, but it's nice to have it all laid out and explained so clearly and thoroughly. The Super Game Boy has always fascinated me in a way, because the core premise - taking a portable gaming console and converting it into an underpowered home console - seems so counter-intuitive, yet at the same time there's clear value to the device.
Can't wait for the GB Hunter / GameBoy Player videos!
I really like your content. Thank you for all of the cool and informative videos. We all are here to support you! 😄👌🏼
Also, I really like the "Funding for Gaming Historian is provided by..." at the end. It reminds me of when I was younger and the same message would play at the end of every PBS Kids shows.
I'm addicted to this series, I'm watching all of them :D
0:18 I can't even bring my 3DS to recess at school without getting in trouble!
My SBG came packed in with my SNES, along with Super Mario All Stars. Good times.
Greg Lytle the Super Boy Game
$10 to $15? That's practically a steal!
The original GameBoy market is pretty neglected outside of Pokemon games. I think everyone prefers using the GameCube adapter due to it being superior.
I paid 14.99 for mine a year or so ago. Playing Donkey Kong makes it worth the purchase price for me.
sickly sporification *strokes beard* Hmmmm.
Andrew Vrba lol
I really love that you started the video with gold/silver music. Probably my favorite pokemon game.
That Pokemon Gold and Silver music really broke my heart and reminded me of my childhood. Amazing video.
The music of the video is what makes me want to watch it... kirby, pokemon, pkmn pinball...
2:12 I was literally just playing pokemon silver on my gameboy and I was in goldenrod city with that same background tune.
I thought I was going crazy hearing pokemon music in my head lol
Another great video, well researched, entertaining, and educational. You've hit the trifecta.
I loved my super gameboy! It was one of my favorite things to play games with. It was so cool to finally be able to see what I was doing in some of those games. Plus the fact they had color too.
Arrgh, your hair has gone back to the 90s!! ;o)
He looks a bit like Steven Wilson from Porcupine Tree, lol
GENERIC 90'S GRUNGE SONG. EVERYONE IN DENIM!!! GENERIC 90'S GRUNGE SONG SOMETHING FROM SEATTLE!
EJ Taylor Lighten the f*** up!
Yuck. No wonder you are not like that today!
Ikr
pokemon stadium and the gameboy transfer pak good times
I always wondered why they locked those things to only work with Pokemon games; they couldda sold a ton of transfer paks if they just let you use it like a SGB normally.
hip indeed This is due to the fact that the Transfer Pak is so rusty and overall poor with emulation.
The Pokemon games are already dumped on the Stadium games(Why its also region locked).
All the Transfer Pak does is access your save file and overall progress.
People have modded the rom to play other games on it, but all it leads to is glitchy and unstable results.
psp785 does get those things give me anxiety because the transfer package always come out while playing
psp785 🦄
That's why you always use two controllers: one that holds the Transfer Pak and your game, and the other one you use to PLAY the game. :D
…It's worked for me. xD
Dude, seriously, this is an amazing public service. Thank you for making these videos.
Man this guy is soooooo chill to listen to
Holy Christ, your mane is beautiful.
Don't you just wanna pull it? Hehe...
Luka Bucar you need to look at my user pic to figure out why I'm commenting this .-.
It's beautiful!
Community Watch
I can't appreciate somebody's hair without being a homosexual?
Luka Bucar ...and you still can't see I am a pony.
Had one of these as a kid, my favorite accessory from the 8-16-bit era by far
Dude, your videos are super good. You are very well spoken and you present information in a easy to digest way. Thanks for making these. :-)
seeing all of these peoples stories about everyone’s special console gifts makes me cry tears of joy
I remember showing my friend Pokemon for the first time at his house on his Super GameBoy
It was magical
Thanks love your channel great gaming info
Completely forgotten about this. Brings back memories.
I didn't expect to hear the OST of For the Frog the Bell Tolls (Game Boy). Nice video!
That hockey hair is more fabulous with every vid, Norm.
Say, there's a blog colorfully titled "F*ck The Super Gameboy" which is actually a really good resource for understanding the device and its use of color, particularly with the games that really pushed the device.
For example, did you know that the Super Gameboy could actually do independently-colored sprites and tiles? Apparently it could, but it went unused for the most part. The only known example is the Mario Picross title screen. Even if you try to change the color palette of the game, the title image will retain its own unique color palette.
I used to think that Donkey Kong '94 was the most advanced game use the peripheral, but based on what I've seen, Kirby's Dreamland 2 may have it beat. Granted, the platforming stages look like your typical SGB fare, but in every other regard, the game looks amazing. Even the pause screen is amazing, as it blends into the border. There are even screens that I'm not even sure how they mapped the colors.
One other interesting tidbit, one which I learned from Gameboy World, is that the Space Invaders cart is actually a compilation unique to America. In Japan, the Gameboy and Super Famicom versions of Space Invaders were released separately, and there was no Super Gameboy support at all for the GB version. It was kind of a neat little feat of engineering to have a cart that could bypass the Super Gameboy and load a Super Nintendo rom.
I didn't know that Super Game Boy controller existed!
I love this channel so much.
Great video and what an awesome accessory. The features and sheer simplicity make the SGB the best way to play GB on a TV. I didn't know about it until I crawled out from a rock earlier this year. :)
Your hair reminds me of the 90s. I love it!
It is impressive! I rocked the same style for most of my life. I miss it.
I always preferred the Gameboy Player personally, because of its form factor (always connected to the console) as well as ability to play GBC and GBA games. But to each their own I guess, especially if nostalgia is involved.
There are actually a lot of problems with the gb player, they can be fixed though with stuff like the GBI software.
computerkid1416 does the super gameboy play game boy color games?
I prefer to play DMG games with the Super Game Boy and everything else with the Game Boy Player.
I don't even play video games, and haven't in close to 20 years, but I love watching your videos~
I remember getting this for Christmas, and putting Metroid II in there and firing it up... one of my favorite Christmas memories to this day.
big respect for the original pokemon pinball music
That hair tho!
That guide book was absolutely amazing by the way.
Hearing the Pokemon music and seeing those old Gameboy classics...I was not expecting such feelings of nostalgia!
Meh. I prefer the Game Boy Player add-on for the GameCube. The Game Boy Player was awesome because it was backwards compatible with your Game Boy, Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance games which would allow you to play your Game Boy, Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance games on your TV or on an attachable GameCube monitor.
And if you have the disc for that you have something that's as valuable today as the day you bought it. Or maybe more valuable. Good on you.
But super gameboy was doing it a lot longer. I like the GB player, but super gameboy was mind blowing back then.
but....that didnt exist back then...when that SGB came out it blew minds and exploded hearts.
I'm a huge fan of the Game Boy Player, but I used to use it only for Game Boy Advance games - because trying to play GBC games on that thing… well. They all looked horrible, because the Game Boy Player doesn't run at 240p (…at least, by default…); instead, it runs at 480i, and is very, very blurry. :(
I recently acquired a way to load GameCube homebrew, though, via an exploit in Super Smash Bros., and with that I can force the Game Boy Player Start-up Disc to run in 240p, which - on my ancient CRT television set - suddenly makes my GB/GBC games look GLORIOUS, and even my GBA games look better! :D
I bought the Game Boy Player for the Gamecube a few years ago just to play both Casltevania: Circle of the Moon, Aria of Sorrow (Harmony of Dissonance sucks!) as well as Metroid Zero Mission and the fan-made English reproduction cart of Mother 3 =)
I loved this thing. I always used the "Theatre Setting" And play something Like Donkey Kong and pretend it was a Nintendo Movie.
Until The Mario Bros. Movie Came.
Gorgo the Orc The mario movie came out before the sgb.
@@tpo100cofficial9 lol
And as always, it is a pleasure watching your highly entertainingly Videos !!
Thank you so much for that 😊
Great job on the research, been watching your stuff for a while
Too bad theres no "Super DS" or "DS Player". I had to buy the goddamn "Nitro IS Capture" device for like $300 just to enjoy DS games on a television without use of emulation. :(
Anyway, love your videos man!
When Norm says "Pokemon" he sounds exactly like Professor Oak.
Geez this brought back memories. I remeber getting the super gameboy just to play pokemon then branched to other games with the super gameboy logo on them. Thanks for this vid.
I love this channel! So nostalgic.
I had a Chinese knockoff called a super Jimmy boy
Jason Lee *Gotta blast!*
Super Jimmy Boy, take out the dog.
*cocks gun*
_shoots the dog_
For a walk, Super Jimmy Boy
*ha! Ha! HA! HA!*
This thing meant playing Pokemon on a big screen when I was a kid
Did it work?
@@RaymondCampesino Totally! Was fun to see the original pokemon in color.
I also always loved the Game Boy. The music on it is great and it has a lot of very special and fun games.
Lol your voice is perfect for these videos man, it's almost like watching how it's made XD, as always great vid
Could you please name the tracks playing in the background. Because I don't only like the video but the music as well. :)
I feel like it was pokemon pinball... someone please correct me if I am wrong!
fuck me have you never played pokemon red and blue
Funny you say that; At least one of the tracks come from Gold/Silver, not Red/Blue.
Nelson Fluckz - The track at the start end was Pokemon Pinball, specifically the Blue game table.
Next is Cherrygrove City from Gold/Silver I believe.
Don't know the next track, but the track after that comes from Kirby's Dreamland 2. It's Red Canyon's area theme.
Those are all the ones I could identify.
Just started a year ago. :)
When you watch a lot of these videos in a short period of time the haircuts really stand out more than they should. And this is the most glorious.
You're a very nice presenter among most TH-cam gamers, nicely done!
I still have my Super Game Boy. Just found your Videos they are fantastic.
Didn't get a notification that Norm had made a new episode. Thanks TH-cam >.>
Oy! It's Guru Larry! I see you like Norm too, you Bombastic Brit.
Hello you
I feel your pain, guru larry
:(
That’s TH-cam for ya
This whole time I thought the GBA attachment for the GameCube was the first attempt.
Uncle Deluxe you must be young!
Well I'm 28 years old. I never owned a SNES.
There was also the Gameboy adapter for the N64 too
I've finally subbed to your channel since these videos have been really fun for me and my friends to watch as of late. I loved hearing about the Super Game Boy, even though it and the SNES were way before my time. I'd actually love to hear more about the Game Boy in future videos. Maybe you could make a video about the Game Boy Camera as well as a video on the history of Pokemon, since that's my favorite Nintendo series next to Mario.
I'm enjoying your content. you've got yourself a new subscriber.
the first nintendo switch.
PLAY ON GAMEBOY/PLAY ON NES/SNES
Gameboy Color was my first true love. I remember not having money for batteries and learning contortion to use a half meter dc adapter to play pokémon red.
The memories heh
I still have one of these. It's really cool and now you can play on HDTVs.
I love your channel man!! Keep em coming!!
Last week I had my birthday and i was going to be 12 years old, I asked my mom and dad if I can have an SNES because it was so retro and it had all those great games, and so this week they gave me a SNES with a super game boy and i was so happy with it and without this video I didn't know how to use it
Oh, whst a fantadtic present! you should totally get a N64 next year, amazing console!
@@paultapping9510 Thx! But, yes! That's a great idea! An N64! I am totally gonna ask that for my 13th birthday! Thx for the idea!
AlSch Sch enjoy it dude! Definitely try to pick up MARIO land 2, Donkey kong , or Castlevania 2 Belmont’s revenge, Kirby’s dreamland 2 as well! They’re all platformers but they’re all pretty different, Castlevania being the hardest and kirby being the easiest
@@SHR7778 Yeah Thx dude! And 3 months have passed and i have all the games you mentioned and even more! Have a Nice day btw!
8:38 *_H A L P ! H A L P !_*
Super Game Boy 2 did not know about the link support 😳
Never had it ... i clicked this video see more about it.. awesome video ! 😎