I bought the 203 the day it came out. Peeps thought I was crazy to pay that much. Crazy like a fox. The analog outs were perfect for my Integra,upgraded it immediately. Best thing I ever bought and still using it. Wound up being the flagship for a 30,000 ht system. There are clones out there, just gos to show how amazing this player was and is still being copied
I picked up my UDP203 for about $1000 secondhand during the pandemic. I was lucky. The previous owner never updated it, so it still had the original firmware it shipped with. I updated it, and have since modified it with all sorts of upgrades (mainly to power delivery, power supply, and a chip that makes it universal). As far as I’m concerned, whoever wants to take it from me can pry it from my cold dead hands…
I just purchased an old school Oppo bdp 83 for analog audio purposes. I purchased solely based on the outstanding reviews this machine garnered when released in '09 and the fact that it plays so many sources like SACD, HDCD, DVD-A and the like. While I'm impressed with the audio quality of this unit nothing prepared me for incredible video and audio coming out of my DVD's and Blu-rays. I just watched the opening action sequence in 007's Casino Royale and it totally blew me away. I'm looking forward to many years of good use out of this beast.
Congrats on your purchase! This is why audio and videophiles were lamenting when Oppo ceased production of their players. I’ll be keeping both of mine for years to come
@@hatoraidcowboy Thanks bro. I'd heard how good these Oppo cd players were for years but thought they were out of my price range. Never thought I'd own one of their Blu ray players (that plays most formats) and use it as a my reference player.
I too used my OPPO for SACD. Sounded good. But then bought a dedicated CD/SACD player, a yamaha . The difference in sound for SACD was nothing short of amazing. Of course that's a 1200 dollar player. But I have about 70 SACDs so it's worth it to me.
Lack of streaming apps had nothing to do with why Oppo stopped making the 203 and 205 models. Both were profitable, but their phone business was even MORE profitable so they pulled the plug on the players. I have both, and the 205 was never going to sell vast quantities as it's an audiophile niche product for a variety of format types using analogue audio (e.g. "normies" don't play SACDs, DVD-A, and the like).
@@hatoraidcowboy I bought the 205 when it first came out and since i live in canada paid $2000 Canadian for it, had the prior model and decided to go for the best with the 205 for sound since i have a collection of DVD AUDIO and SACD which sound better with analog when it comes to music that is what I experienced .
- 👍that is exactly the reason. Hugh profit margins on a phone and very little on a low volume, premium end player. You only have to look at the new brands that have tried to come in and replace Oppo - they're charging two to three times as much - and they'll be out of business even quicker. I suprised Sony hasent tried to fill the void with a high end ES model - at least they can obsorb the low volume against a cheaper player for people who come on here expecting a player for $50🤣 I guess thats Panasonics job, cheap players all the way up to premium?
@@IncognitoChild--- I'm thinking of getting a BD or 4K player, what kind of price range do they have? *Where's the best bang for my buck?* Also, any recommendations on where I can find high-end VCRs (capable of playing: VHS Dolby, VHS Hi-Fi, S-VHS, W-VHS, D-VHS, etc.) in good condition and high-end Nuon capable DVD players?
@@antiWhiteism777 wow, there are some tough questions there 😁. Starting with Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray. First of all, make a list of the content you plan to play on the machine. ie DVD, Blu-ray, SACD, 4K Blu-ray, USB file formats and prioritise your list accordingly. If you are using a screen greater or equal to 65 inch with an extensive and large film collection consisting of DVD and Blu-ray that you are only going to add new 4k titles to, rather than replace , the best upscaling 4K players are Panasonic. If you are looking to replace your existing DVD and Blu-ray collection with 4K blu-rays and the highest picture quality with Dolby Vision is a priority then you need to look at Oppo . If you are looking for a universal disc player which can play back SACD you can ignore Panasonic because they don't offer SACD playback capability. This leaves you again with OPPO or Sony. If you are on a tight budget and you want to play all discs, the Sony might be the best option for you, but naturally it isn't going to be the best at anything, but it is a solid performer with a couple of annoying features, one being : manual switching of Dolby Vision (which to some people, is an absolute pain in the arse) Blu-ray players are naturally much cheaper than 4k but at the end of the day you might as well future proof as best you can and buy a machine that can play all known discs currently now. Prices vary dramatically depending on what region of the world you're in if you're in the UK for example you'll need to shop around and see if you can find any deals. Overall recommended retail prices are certainly better in the United States. VHS: I'm afraid I have no experience of D-VHS. I remember seeing models by Panasonic, Philips andJVC but again depending on what region of the world you're in your experience might be different. I think you could play standard VHS tapes in standard and SVHS through these machines. SVHS with Hi-Fi sound again I would stick to JVC and Panasonic. I preferred Panasonic and one of the last decent machines was an NV-HS950 but I also loved the NV-FS100 as well.
Hi Hatoraid Cowboy ~ Obviously, you only know me from a cryptic YT user name, but I can tell you what I was told by a guy in the UK who's a name in the audio engineering game. He told me that he knows someone in the know who worked for Oppo back in their heyday. At some point, a certain huge international electronics entity was pushing Oppo around in an attempt to stop them from offering certain functions/capabilities in their universal player line. Well, obviously, Oppo never offered a universal player minus format functions found in their previous players, which clearly tells us that Oppo preferred changing their business model over diminishing their universal player line. In short, they never "caved" to the big guys: and God bless them for that! That's why we own - and hold onto - two Oppo universal players! Keep spreading the good word! 👍
I hope you're telling me the truth lol, i just purchased one. Ive been needing a regions free bluray player for a while now and the OPPO one seemed like a great high end option. I collect physical media still and some things just doesn't release in America, i purchased the Arrow video Bruce Lee collection and some of the blurays have never been released in the states before so I was motivated to find something. Thanks for the recommendation
Just bought an OPPO BDP-105 to add to my (2) Oppo BDP-103's. Keeping them all for continued playback of my Large Multi-channel High Res. music collection.
I 100% whole heartedly agree with you and I secretly hope for this to happen. They should probably get into the 4K Video Players like Zappiti and Zidoo
I purchased my 203 in Feb 2018 and am having issues with it freezing up and skipping chapters. Fortunately, they still service for a flat fee of $129 so I am sending it in. In the interim I have purchased the Panasonic UPB9000. I agree with OPPO not including streaming apps.
That’s a pretty cheap service fee considering they arent being manufactured anymore. In my opinion they should just fix it at no charge, but its good to see they are honoring their word about maintaining limited customer support. I could go either way on the apps. But yea I’d much prefer a company like Oppo to put more money and resources in a dedicated high end movie player than skimp on quality just to have apps. Kind of ironic how they didnt include apps but still ended up closing shop because of the growing popularity of streaming services.
Got mine from Crutchfield just before they stopped selling them in 2016. With a $50 external mod chip from ebay plugged in on the back I have a great multi region 4k bluray player going strong. But If i could get 4k for it I would!
The Panasonic UB9000 is a far greater value for $1000 vs a $2500 used UDP-205. The Oppo player does more, but you'll have $1500 left over to buy another component to add in that functionality.
This is the first time I seen your channel. Pretty good. Oppo is not the only company that stop selling. Samsung and I think LG has stop. I think people like streaming because it is easy to get to not caring about the quality. I remember when I was in grad school was to make things more affordable and convince people their product is better. I was alive when they had vcrs and they tried to convince people that betamax even though it was better than vhs was beaten because it was more expensive. Beta was clearly better. Another is HD DVD and Blu-Ray. I had both and clearly HD had the better picture but because blu-ray was cheaper it won the format wars. 4K is going through the same thing and so is streaming. Physical media is superior than streaming but try to convince people that. Look at business history and you will see the same thing. It is how cheap and how conveince it is. I have a lot of movies I bought and looked at them later on streaming and you can hear and see the difference. I watched Justice League on streaming and my blu-ray was better than the 4K streaming.
J’ai même croisé certains groupes de jeunes qui m’ont dit c’est quoi la stéréo monsieur je suis parti en courant et maintenant je vois dans les grandes surfaces des grosses caisses de sonorisation qui fais Boomboom quand je demande au vendeur elle ce qu’elle sapèrent Entr’Elles il me dit Monsieur c’est quoi l’apérage je pars en courant mais par contre pour faire des teuf la tête enfoncée dans un haut-parleur de 18 pouces Red Bull d’un côté et un pétard de l’autre alors là c’est sure que là ça ébranle le cerveau si tu te fois c’est un cerveau et non du fromage blanc
My udp 203 had to be serviced a week ago. A certain 4k disc was playing,when suddenly the picture started freezing. Then the menu went from english to an asian text. Then quit. Its playing great now,but the remote won't work. I have no control of the menu.I have to manually press play. Has anyone experienced the same?
Yes , it happened to me twice, to correct it, go to your audio Accessibility, next - turn off voice control. I tried it on My Tv last night, and it was a lot easier to follow and almost instantly, it stopped, now doing it on a phone app., might be a lil diff. on my Tv, go to Settings , then go to accessibility page, find The Voice Over line, make sure it is turned OFF. Done. now it should not affect your usauge
I've got a Jailbroken 205 that is an actual BEAST, there's nothing it can't handle..... I'll ride this thing until it's legs fall off. I also have a Panasonic 9000 as a back up, but find myself always using the Oppo. I don't get these people moaning about streaming apps, there are plenty of options elsewhere for that stuff..... The Oppo concentrates on physical and, as you say, 'user generated' media..... and in my opinion, as it seems aligned with yours, there STILL is no better player out there in 2022.
Well said. I wouldnt have complained if they added stock apps, but I agree, I think they made the right decision to focus on better quality and experience your content in the best possible way. I’ve been using my Oppo more recently and I’m always reminded each viewing why Oppo is still one of the best players on the market even being out of production for a few years.
Hi there, just a short question about the usages of these oppo mediaplayers, but can you upscale a regular dvd- physical disc to a quality similar to a Blu ray, or even 4K on a 50 inch 1000$ 4k tv? (2021 LG model) I assume you use it for a greater output (maybe even a projector), but is my first question plausible?
@@GrandCamo The Oppo UDP-203 & 205 can upscale 1080p content to 4K provided you have a 4K display. Doesnt matter the size of the display. 😁 However I dont think it can upscale 720p. I dont think I even have any 720p content to test for LOL
I own an Oppo BDP 103 3D player. I bought it from a fellow in Chula Vista CA in a parking lot. The whole transaction was very much like a drug deal (not that I'd know, of course!) It's not going anywhere. The picture quality is flawless, the surround sound rocks and paired with my refurbished Samsung 60" 3D TV, it's a great match. My surround sound setup is a $150 Vizio I purchased at Costco. The whole setup cost me a bit over a grand and it works. I'm standing pat.
It is probably simply the case that sales of Blu-ray players have generally fallen because of all the streaming. Then we have the problem of Blu-ray manufacturers writing 4K but not playing UHD blu-ray. which some consumers have probably discovered. Then Is the problem perhaps that stores have both regular blu-ray players and UHD BD players on the same shelf in the store without making a separation between the two types of devices in the store. Then the question is whether it was so smart to name it UHD Blu-ray. it is perhaps should have been named 4K disk player or something better. Then there is the question of whether everyone knows that there is 4K on blu-ray discs. and that these can Better image than streaming. and why didn't 4K on Blu-ray get support for 3D in the standard was it so that the theaters would have some advantage maybe
@@hatoraidcowboy For collectors of films, cinephiles, people into cult films and classics and those who use projectors for their films physical media is still the way to go.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Je me pose aussi la même question pourquoi la 3D ne se trouve pas en 4K partager du 1080 p en deux ça fait 5.40 pour les deux images superposé En 4K (2160) diviser donnerai deux images superposées en 1080 dans le confort de l’image et sa luminosité se trouverait plus confortable Maintenant faudrait arrêter de nous faire revenir au Moyen Âge avec les disques vinyles sans doute très bons en sonorité mais derrière faut du matériel et au moins posséder une tête de lecture elliptique c’est la base🤣🤭🧐🤣🤪🔫
My 205bd is the best audio "value" I have ever purchased! I cannot believe the quality I get. ALL I use it for is playing "Redbook" CD's and the occasional Music related DVD such as a band's recorded live performance. However, the performance I get listening to a 3000 Cd disc (and growing) collection fed into a Violecric V281 headphone amp is quite frankly, a cheap (pardon...IMHO "killer inexpensive) high end "audiophile" experience as MUCH of the electric blues stuff I like to listen to is, quite frankly, unavailable on MANY quality streaming services! WTF will I do when my trusty OPPO goes! God forfend!
You must be speaking about the 752 (or 751) BD. Except for using a different DAC chip it was great at the time and the 752 was pretty much a duplicate for the 105. Curiously, Cambridge used that SAME Wolfson chip for get this: over a DOZEN years. Looks like they really want to keep that British conection going (both UK-based) as long as they possibly could! Even the CXN V2 streamer uses the same one... only the new MXN line finally moves to a modern Sabre. I still use my 752BD today because you can nicely stream from an app like Mconnect
I bought the oppo 95... Blu-ray still looking great, and luv the CD.. indeed.. when I heard oppo was stop making player I decided it wasn't worth buying another as I would have like to...R.I.P...OPPO players
I have the Panasonic dp-ub820, and I was surprised how much better the picture quality was on the streaming apps from the player compared to my Panasonic oled tv apps. I don't know why but the apps performed better on the bluray player. On the other hand, my Panasonic oled tv with the Panasonic player are a match made in heaven.
Not sure streaming matters to me at all. I applaud them for focusing on what they do best. Paid around $567 shipped for my 203 in February 2018. Guess it was the right move at the right time. Every great once and a while I get no sound from it, and have to reset, but that could be the receiver. Nothing a quick reset couldn't fix.
I still have an Oppo 203 player. I really like it still and wore out my Onkyo receiver. I now have Denon AVR X4700H receiver. It is much better receiver than my Onkyo ever was, now sound matches picture.
Had to get rid of my personal one. It was amazing because of my ability to use it with the multi speaker system, connect it to my gaming console, watching movies from my hard drives, and integrate it with all of my legacy devices. The new televisions have so many streaming options and capabilities, it just couldn't compete with the smart whole home solutions, apps and merge capabilities and so much more. I still use it at work though. its the best solution for theater application and support remoting.
Think the streaming theory is right . I bought the 203 day it came out not caring cause I stream everything through my Apple TV 4K cause it does picture great . Hate having 18 remotes but prefer one tool that does one job great instead of Swiss Army knife that does nothing well .
I bought an Oppo 203 and still have it. I use it through my Yamaha home theater receiver. I do not plan to let it go and in fact told my wife [she was mad I bought it] that if I pass away either keep it in the family or sell it at a higher cost than I paid for it. As an owner of some 2 channel Cambridge Audio equipment, I believe oppo made their Blu Ray players. At the same time Oppo stopped making Blu-ray players so did Cambridge.
Question: Can you plug your computer's HDMI into the OPPO, as a pass through, to play music stored on your CPU and does it sound better then straight to your receiver? Reason why I'm asking is that I just ordered an OPPO, but have my CPU hooked up directly from a 1080TI card to a Denon 3600. Thanks in advance for any insight you, or anyone else, may have.
@@hatoraidcowboycould you please tell me, with such a thing as the Oppo… do you even need an av receiver or could you run a ust projector with apps into the Oppo and the oppo directly out to the surround speakers? 🤔
@paulk9534 I dont think you can use the Oppo as a display. You can use the hdmi in and plug another source into it, but you would still need to run audio from the projector.
@@hatoraidcowboy It's awesome. $19.99 a mont, 3 out at a time, no max limits, mailed directly to your home, mailed back. Guess I'll get a router, wire up an ethernet connection to the UDP-205. Time to start using the 1Gig service that I am lucky to have. Just never liked the idea of streaming, even in 4k. Not made of money, buying Ultra 4K Blu-ray's, little steep for me.
I choose a physical Blu ray disc over streaming any day. I don't disagree that streaming is en vogue right now, but the pandemic is over and the reality is, my Oppo BDP93 player (yes it's that old) runs circles around my streaming apps. My Oppo was manufactured before the copy protection law, so it plays my collection of personal backup movies without blocking or scrambling. Also, no buffering issues from unstable wi-fi, AND DTS Master, DDS & Atmos movies sound awesome through my system. Some streaming sites still do not offer Atmos, and some streaming services are charging extra for those audio and video enhancements through their subscription rates. If I could get my hands on an Oppo UDP 203 that doesn't break the bank, I would jump on it. You interested in selling yours? 🙂 BTW, I also have a new Sony Blu ray player.... I still prefer my Oppo.
Hello and thank you for watching and for the sub! I’m using an Epson 5040UB projector in my theater. I have the BDP-103 in my living room with a 2014 Bravia Sony TV
I own an OPPO UDP-103. Haven't used it in almost 2 years. I built a PCHT since I rip all my media to MKV files. Not sure if I'm quite ready to give up my OPPO. It did get serviced and updated not much before I retired it back into it's original packaging (bag & box). At the same time, I'm not sure exactly what to do with it. So I guess for now, I'm just hoarding it.
i have an oppo 103 that whenever i player a dvd in it i get these very tiny white lines darting across my tv screen.the dvd movies are actually watchable but that snow like lines are very annoying.what could be the problem?
I have the UDP-203. I was planning on getting an IFI Zen one signature DAC. Having it between my 203 and amp for CD play. Does that sound good? I listen to SACD via the 203's 7.1 analogue outputs and bluray via HDMI. Any feedback? Thanks.
I’m not familiar with that dac, but I looked it up and seems pretty good. The 203 and specifically the 205 has great support for hi res audio with their analog inputs. You should have an enjoyable experience 😁
@@hatoraidcowboy I will is the dac to improve my CD and streaming quality...I am very pleased with the multi channel sound via the analog outputs.. Cheers
Low-cost universal: Sony 800m2. Plays SACD and DVD Audio, as well as UHD. Just movies: Panasonic 820 or 9000 with added HDR picture processing. Or, the OPPO clones like Reavon or Magnetar etc.
Used oppo 203 almost 4 years, but recently problem to play the 4k old disc. Like lionsgate disc, wonder women uk version. Nolan box set, transformer box set uk version.
I have 2 203's still use them and love them! I have to reboot my nvidia Shield TV on a regular basis - not so with the Oppo. If Oppo made a plex player I'd happily toss my shield in the trash.
I am privileged to own a Oppo UDP 203 and would never sell it for any amount of money. I have checked out the Reavon and I still think the Oppo is better.
I've been playing with my 'new' 203. It's very fussy with usb drives - it won't recognize a 2TB SSD formatted exfat. A 32G thumb drive (exfat again) used to work then didn't (not recognized/ detected) until a couple of reboots. Output also seems to be related to the screen - some files give a black picture when I connect a 1080p monitor, but when I tested again with a 4k monitor, they work. It's odd, because the files are 1080 files, not 4k files. Is it something to do with the settings? Also it detects a new firmware available but will often get stuck when I choose not to update, then I need a hard power off (power button doesn't work, I need to unplug). Are these known quirks or is my machine a bit duff?
Also I'm looking at installing a region free chip - I see 2 types. One slim PCB, one larger squarer PCB. Anyone any info on these please? What's the best way to go region-free please?
@@hatoraidcowboy I bought it from a private seller. Firmware wasn't up to date so I bit the bullet and updated it. USB drives seem to work fine now, including the 2TB SSD. I also did a full factory reset as recommended. Then I got a message that there was another new firmware. I thought 'weird, didn't I just update to the latest'. I checked and I was on v45, which is very old, and oddly I thought was older than the one on the machine when I got it (though I can't be sure). Anyway, so I upgraded to V65. And touch wood, usb is workign still. The other thing was that it could connect to my synology NAS and could only see the contents of the shared video folder but not the music, nor photos. I think it was due to an indexing issue, and now I'm begining to see the music and photo folders being populated.
Residual problem is that 2160 files won't play on a lapdock with a 1080 monitor (sound but black picture), but will play ok on a 2k monitor. The demo bluray disc plays ok on the 1080 though. Weird. Maybe its just a problem with my 1080.
I feel the Panasonic is a match in picture quality to the ub9000 but there are moments where the ub9000 may show a bit more detail in certain scenes when comparing.
I've got the oppo 203 and the problem with that and it's a major problem. When you're watching 4K there's not a movie mould the best that you've got is standard. And with movie mode that is the most accurate picture you're going to get. So I'm very surprised that oppo didn't let you get this feature when playing 4k
I gather English is not your first language, given the meaningless of your "I've got the oppo 203 and the problem with that and it's a major problem. When you're watching 4K there's not a movie mould the best that you've got is standard."
All smart tv have streaming apps what you talking about and streaming devices have to be plugged to a TV so if you have a streaming device you still have to plug it in
Exactly, there's infinite devices to stream. I have a free Comcast unit I never use that does all that besides my projector, or any number of other options. I could give a crap less about streaming apps on a player. The fact that the OPPO 203 doesn't have them while focusing on physical media made it a bigger selling point for me and the fact that it can be modified so I can upscale on just about anything. I use a CPU to stream, or go online and that works great for my needs.
I agree with you…I bought the Oppo for 4K playback. But it’s a very niche product and the majority of people have abandoned physical media in leu of streaming services. But I think had they added streaming apps it would have been more of a selling point to a wider demographic.
Bad timing of market and lack of profits is why I think Oppo left. in 2017. I was able to get my first 4K player for $45 from LG at Walmart while Oppo 203 was selling for $500. Samsung still was making their players, Panasonic was making as well as Sony. Lots of competition as the market was drying up and shift to streaming without a lot of 4K disc availability. Now 5 years later the 4K disc availability is there with an avid fan base but not much in the player market. Samsung left as well. Sony discontinued their top tier. LG, Panasonic, and Sony haven't upgraded their models in years. Reavon and Magnetar are trying, but each have drawbacks. I don't know if volume is there to make it worth Oppo's time to return, but if they did in the Reavon/Magnetar pricing those two brands would most likely go under. My Reavon can handle almost as much as a Oppo can, but external media browser is irritating slow to the point I bought a separate media player. Disc playback though is incredible.
Who's with me here on this thought? Physical media players are making a comeback because people are realizing streaming both video and especially audio sucks in comparison. I would billion times more rather listen to true disc Atmos (or audio in general) then crappy streaming Atmos. Here's hoping Oppo pulls a "Technics" and make a return from the dead in the coming years. After 5 years dormant, Panasonic recognized that the world is now open to better sounding music... So maybe Oppo will too!!
@@hatoraidcowboy I just wanted to have them, OPPO is high-end and I'm currently using both of them, one (203) on the TV set and the other (205) now on the projector and both via a Denon receiver. I don't use DAC yet, but more and more 4K Blu Ray
Oppo 203, Gold. Until death do us part. DNLA and BubbleUPnP etc, no problem. Just jump new gen DACs from HDMI out, future proof super HiRes audio right there. 8K, who gives a ratz?
However, there should be a streaming service for Sony TV called Bravia Core, it is stated that you should have a high streaming speed of 80 Mbit/s, note that this applies to specific TV models such as the BRAVIA XR series. But I also think that Apple should have a high streaming speed on its Film service, at least on the films that you rent or buy in Apple TV.
Yea Bravia Core is supposed to look pretty good. But that’s dependent on your isp speeds. And I dont know what their library is like to make it worth it.
False. Stop confusing Bit Rate with internet streaming speed. Bravia Core can stream movies at around 80Mbps BIT RATE quality. The recommended download speed you need to enjoy that 80Mbps bit rate quality is around 125Mbps download speed.
Ok, I have an option to buy the Oppo 203 for $1250 Cdn Dollars...or do I go for the way cheaper Sony UBP X800M2 at $450.....The Sony plays the SACD and DVD audio which is what I am more interested in but it would be nice to have the 4K Ultra option as I have never owned a blu ray so I am just getting my feet wet with these formats so in reality both are comparable. Price is not an issue meaning I can afford the Oppo but it would be great to justify it. It has come down to these two. Any advice would really help out. Many thanks in advance
Interesting dilemma LOL I wouldnt normally spend $1200 on a 4K Blu Ray player, but if money is no object AND it’s new, go with the Oppo ALL DAY. You’re gonna get a MUCH better player, better built, better features and more reliable. If the Oppo is not new….😬 I dont know if I would pay that much for used. But Sony is gonna come close to the Oppo
@@hatoraidcowboy Thanks for responding yes the Oppo is used. He claims that "My unit has the genuine region A Oppo firmware that allows you to play cloned 4k UHD and bluray discs from USB drives, which is what I have used it for so the actual disc transport has had very little use". Im like you its very difficult to shell out that money considering it's used but he has a great rep on the site Im buying from. I might just hit Best Buy and test the Sony for a month and decide then. If I lose out on the Oppo then it's fate. Plus, he's had the add up for three months. Thanks again.
@@hatoraidcowboy So having said all this I just read your review on the Magnetar. Not as expensive as the Reavon and from what I have read the Reavon is pretty buggy. Do you still feel the Magnetar is comparable to the Oppo in every way?? Yes...pricey but at least Id be getting a warranty....as opposed to the used Oppo.
Hello! I havent ever user Oppo players like that. They dont have streaming capabilities unless you are using the DLNA function. But no native Apple Music or Spotify support.
Still reign supreme? You're freaking right about that! Tried to get a used player from different places and finally EBay and they are still stupid expensive!
No joke I saw prices anywhere between 900 to 1500 for a used UDP-203, that's just nuts and I bet they will get more expensive as time goes on you know. Speaks volumes about the product!@@hatoraidcowboy
I own two OPPO players and I use them daily, specially for music playback. I think you are totally wrong about why OPPO stopped producing bluray players, it has nothing to do with streaming or going out of buisness, OPPO is a pretty large chinese company with a facade in the US to market their video/audio products, they simply decided that the cellphones business is much more profitable than the video/audiophile niche markets, it's was not worth the money nor the effort. OPPO has a big chunk of the top segment of the mobile phone market. As an audiophile I can tell you that the price of many hifi gear is so high, that must audiophiles consider the OPPO players to be almost a bargain, just a HiFi CD or SACD player can go for thousands of dollars and not even get close to what a OPPO player could handle. I believe more OPPO players were bought by audiophiles that from the video user crowd. The two brands that continue the legacy of OPPO are REAVON and MAGNETAR, the brand is from France, but the players are built by a chinese hitech company, maybe the same factory that designed and built OPPO players, REAVON players ( I own a UDP-X200) are very, very similar to the latest OPPO's.
I think Oppo phones are more popular overseas than they are in the states. I’ve never come across one person that owns an Oppo phone. So it was a weird move to me, to drop Oppo players when they were so beloved by Home Theater Enthusisasts
@@hatoraidcowboy Sure, I am from Colombia; here we can get OPPO phones as well as One Plus that is also owned by OPPO. Apple has the biggest share in the US, but as far as I know it is the only place in the world were Apple is the leader, in the rest of the world Android phones rule.
... that's because Oppo phones aren't available in the States through normal channels. We get the crappy watered down Oneplus versions here. As has always been the case, picking up a Chinese phone is not a smart idea here because the bands don't work the same... for instance there's no 5G to speak of.
Yeah, honestly, I never understood what the big fuss was about … I bought one for £800 in the UK, sold it in less than a month of owning it, years ago … I prefer the Panasonic better, even the “lesser” 820 … in terms of picture quality, it is not bad, I would say its biggest trump card is the sharpness you get, but, honestly, the Panasonic is better … having said that, it’s not a bad player, but I honestly think it’s ridiculously over priced and hyped … also, for such an expensive player, I would expect it to at least play most, if not all the files you feed it, outside of discs, through your server etc … I find it unacceptable that it doesn’t support quite a few video codecs
@@JohnSmith-zl8rz Fair enough. I think the vast majority of people buying oppo’s are buying them for movies….audio and video. The true SACD audiophiles would probably just buy a stand alone SACD player like you said.
Hooked up my new 203 (HDMI) and compared the SACD with my Marantz SA KI Pearl. Cant separate them so far. Will try the analogue outs to use the DAC and maybe then I'll be able to separate / rank the players.
@@hatoraidcowboy Other dude. As you and I already have a 205 and know its capabilities, his claim that we're living in the past and should buy a Reavon are comical.
Got a 103D back in the BluRay days, region free of course. Never had to worry about any of that crap! Then, moved on to my 203 I got when travelling to LA for work. Here in Sweden they used to cost 50% more than in the US! Sales taxes are higher, but the rest was just OPPO EU and pure greed. Also region free and still going strong when I watch the occasional disc. Never getting rid of those players! The 103 can be used to rip SACD to a NAS if needed. Super-niche, but a nice to have.
I think the main reason Oppo stopped doing UHD players is because they sell a lot more mobile phones and that's their main business now. The # of people buying high end 4K Players is shrinking. Then there are cheap players from Panasonic, Sony and other Chinese makers that are hard to beat at that price.
To be honest today you have the Panasonic ub9000, Pioneer udp-lx500 and Pioneer udp-lx800. There's also an fairly new player in town Pannde PD-6 and PD-6X they're all good players.
I have an Oppo-203 and a Panny UB9000. In terms of pure video quality, especially with HDR10 discs, the UB9000, with its HDR Optimizer edges the OPPO out by a smidge. Dolby Vision is pretty much even. The OPPO does have a sleeker interface than the Panny and a better self-lighting remote. Even though the Panny has some streaming apps, they are easily outclassed by any Roku, Firestick or Nvidia Shield. The one gigantic advantage that the OPPO has over the Panny is its ability to play almost any combination of video and audio encoding (including lossless) in MKV and MP4 files. It's also better with BDMVs. The Panny is very limited in this area and can't even play E-AC3 tracks. It's one reason that I'll never get rid of my OPPO. There has been one issue with my OPPO however. My setup has been Denon AVRs and an LG C7 OLED TV. Prior to my getting the latest Denon X3800 AVR, my OPPO had problems with HDMI handshaking when playing Dolby Vision discs. The LG would go to its "No Signal" screen briefly or sometimes longer I tried every combination of video settings without success . There were no problems with HDR10 discs. The Panny had no problems here. OPPO blamed Denon, Denon blamed LG but nobody could come up with an answer. It was one reason why the UB9000 became my primary disc player and the OPPO was used mostly with a USB external hard drive. Since I got the Denon X3800 the DV/ handshake problems have subsided quite a bit although they still crop up from time to time. I still use the UB9000 as the primary disc spinner but I also use the OPPO as well and, again, I ain't never giving up my OPPO unless it goes completely toes up one day and OPPO is no longer providing service.
@@hatoraidcowboy--- Weird, that kind of mentality is for poor people. People who can't afford separate devices want a single device that does everything "okay" and people that can afford separate devices want them to do one thing great! It's like wanting your microwave to also be a food processor or your bicycle to also be an ironing board. I'm currently poor, but if I had money to waste on these kinds of luxury items, I'd want each to do the best job at it's specific function, and if that means I need to buy 5, 10, 15, or 20 separate devices, then that's what I'd do. I can't imagine people with these pauper mindsets were ever going to be the customers buying these BD players for the cost of a used car anyway. It's like vegans telling the local butcher they won't be shopping there until he starts selling carrots and turnips. *EDIT* I just realised these current prices are much higher than the MSRP at release, but my point stands, these high quality devices are meant for individuals that are going to spend thousands at a minimum for an entire system, the people that want apps included basically want the BD player to be their system, they want to spend hundreds. If that's what they wanted, they should have bought a cheaper 4K player and spent the difference on a smart TV or connected their computer to the BD player or TV directly.
@hatoraidcowboy --- I'm thinking of getting a BD or 4K player, what kind of price range do they have? *Where's the best bang for my buck?* Also, any recommendations on where I can find high-end VCRs (capable of playing: VHS Dolby, VHS Hi-Fi, S-VHS, W-VHS, D-VHS, etc.) in good condition and high-end Nuon capable DVD players?
There’s a wide range of price for Blu Ray players. You can get from $50-$2000 or more. Depends on what features you want. Unfortunately I know nothing about where to find old tech lol
@antiWhiteism777 Most blu ray players support Dolby Vision at every price level. For $200, its hard to say though. It depends on the brand. Some offer DLNA and file playback
@@hatoraidcowboy--- Is DLNA only useful if I have some kind of home network? What if my AV input sources to the TV/AVR are limited to VCR, DVD player, PC connected to internet for streaming or just watching on video sites like TH-cam, Daily Motion, and "less legitimate" sites, or just some movies I downloaded from the internet to my PC/HDD? *Why does the BD player need DLNA, won't I just be using it to play BDs?*
@antiWhiteism777 You dont need dlna, just saying those are some futures you may or may not get depending if that’s important to you. DLNA lets you stream your content from a computer or NAS over your local network
Oppo just didn't have an interest in making the players anymore. Their main business was and is phones, sold primarily in China. Half the population in China is 16-59. Quite the large demographic to sell phones. They are now also growing their mobile phone sales outside of China.
Still makes no sense to me. They had a hardcore cult following because their players were THE BEST on the market. I dont think they marketed them properly. If you’re not a hardcore enthusiast then you probably didnt know existed.
I believe was around the progressing decline in sales for preorder and the cost of production and that fact that UHD 4K was also probably the last disc format for a long time with little reason to progress and make another version 3 years later. The company I believe was located in California for the OPPO digital operations in which I'm sure overhead was high for promoting the player and the headphones and amplifiers was not going to grow market share in the coming years. It appeared pretty early on they had hit the top of the production costs of the player when the streaming app support was off the table because of licensing costs associated plus firmware support for fixing the app but was said because they wanted a pure disc player to cover the reasoning.
@@Tidbitkid Yea seems like a weird decision. One the one hand app support would drive up the cost to license said apps, but on the other hand these companies are all in cahoots so the partnerships go hand in hand. Seems like some kind of brand deal could have been made to offset production and licensing costs.
Who still owns an Oppo Blu Ray player? Are you keeping or selling?
I have a 203 ...its my daily driver
@@513atflanagan They are still the best!
@@hatoraidcowboy you in the market for a 205 ? I introduced a friend 2 oppo he got a 205 and said it the best purchase he ever made
Just bought a used 103 to be used in my stereo for audio (sacd, cd and dvd-a).
@@hamishthecat4370 Enjoy its a great player! I still have mine
I bought the 203 the day it came out. Peeps thought I was crazy to pay that much. Crazy like a fox. The analog outs were perfect for my Integra,upgraded it immediately. Best thing I ever bought and still using it. Wound up being the flagship for a 30,000 ht system. There are clones out there, just gos to show how amazing this player was and is still being copied
I picked up my UDP203 for about $1000 secondhand during the pandemic. I was lucky. The previous owner never updated it, so it still had the original firmware it shipped with. I updated it, and have since modified it with all sorts of upgrades (mainly to power delivery, power supply, and a chip that makes it universal). As far as I’m concerned, whoever wants to take it from me can pry it from my cold dead hands…
😂 Glad you found one! I’m not getting rid of mine ever either. They are relics now but still better than anything out there as far as I can tell
haha same situation for me - I found a "lightly used" floor model and will never let it go.
I just got a 203. Where can I find this chip upgrade?
How did you make it region free?
I just purchased an old school Oppo bdp 83 for analog audio purposes. I purchased solely based on the outstanding reviews this machine garnered when released in '09 and the fact that it plays so many sources like SACD, HDCD, DVD-A and the like. While I'm impressed with the audio quality of this unit nothing prepared me for incredible video and audio coming out of my DVD's and Blu-rays. I just watched the opening action sequence in 007's Casino Royale and it totally blew me away. I'm looking forward to many years of good use out of this beast.
Congrats on your purchase! This is why audio and videophiles were lamenting when Oppo ceased production of their players. I’ll be keeping both of mine for years to come
@@hatoraidcowboy Thanks bro. I'd heard how good these Oppo cd players were for years but thought they were out of my price range. Never thought I'd own one of their Blu ray players (that plays most formats) and use it as a my reference player.
I too used my OPPO for SACD. Sounded good. But then bought a dedicated CD/SACD player, a yamaha . The difference in sound for SACD was nothing short of amazing. Of course that's a 1200 dollar player. But I have about 70 SACDs so it's worth it to me.
Lack of streaming apps had nothing to do with why Oppo stopped making the 203 and 205 models. Both were profitable, but their phone business was even MORE profitable so they pulled the plug on the players. I have both, and the 205 was never going to sell vast quantities as it's an audiophile niche product for a variety of format types using analogue audio (e.g. "normies" don't play SACDs, DVD-A, and the like).
Yea I think you’re right. I think the 203 was more popular and more than likely the one most audio/videophiles would buy of the two.
@@hatoraidcowboy I bought the 205 when it first came out and since i live in canada paid $2000 Canadian for it, had the prior model and decided to go for the best with the 205 for sound since i have a collection of DVD AUDIO and SACD which sound better with analog when it comes to music that is what I experienced .
- 👍that is exactly the reason. Hugh profit margins on a phone and very little on a low volume, premium end player.
You only have to look at the new brands that have tried to come in and replace Oppo - they're charging two to three times as much - and they'll be out of business even quicker.
I suprised Sony hasent tried to fill the void with a high end ES model - at least they can obsorb the low volume against a cheaper player for people who come on here expecting a player for $50🤣
I guess thats Panasonics job, cheap players all the way up to premium?
@@IncognitoChild--- I'm thinking of getting a BD or 4K player, what kind of price range do they have? *Where's the best bang for my buck?*
Also, any recommendations on where I can find high-end VCRs (capable of playing: VHS Dolby, VHS Hi-Fi, S-VHS, W-VHS, D-VHS, etc.) in good condition and high-end Nuon capable DVD players?
@@antiWhiteism777 wow, there are some tough questions there 😁.
Starting with Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray.
First of all, make a list of the content you plan to play on the machine. ie DVD, Blu-ray, SACD, 4K Blu-ray, USB file formats and prioritise your list accordingly.
If you are using a screen greater or equal to 65 inch with an extensive and large film collection consisting of DVD and Blu-ray that you are only going to add new 4k titles to, rather than replace , the best upscaling 4K players are Panasonic.
If you are looking to replace your existing DVD and Blu-ray collection with 4K blu-rays and the highest picture quality with Dolby Vision is a priority then you need to look at Oppo .
If you are looking for a universal disc player which can play back SACD you can ignore Panasonic because they don't offer SACD playback capability. This leaves you again with OPPO or Sony.
If you are on a tight budget and you want to play all discs, the Sony might be the best option for you, but naturally it isn't going to be the best at anything, but it is a solid performer with a couple of annoying features, one being : manual switching of Dolby Vision (which to some people, is an absolute pain in the arse)
Blu-ray players are naturally much cheaper than 4k but at the end of the day you might as well future proof as best you can and buy a machine that can play all known discs currently now. Prices vary dramatically depending on what region of the world you're in if you're in the UK for example you'll need to shop around and see if you can find any deals. Overall recommended retail prices are certainly better in the United States.
VHS:
I'm afraid I have no experience of D-VHS. I remember seeing models by Panasonic, Philips andJVC but again depending on what region of the world you're in your experience might be different.
I think you could play standard VHS tapes in standard and SVHS through these machines.
SVHS with Hi-Fi sound again I would stick to JVC and Panasonic.
I preferred Panasonic and one of the last decent machines was an NV-HS950 but I also loved the NV-FS100 as well.
Hi Hatoraid Cowboy ~ Obviously, you only know me from a cryptic YT user name, but I can tell you what I was told by a guy in the UK who's a name in the audio engineering game. He told me that he knows someone in the know who worked for Oppo back in their heyday. At some point, a certain huge international electronics entity was pushing Oppo around in an attempt to stop them from offering certain functions/capabilities in their universal player line. Well, obviously, Oppo never offered a universal player minus format functions found in their previous players, which clearly tells us that Oppo preferred changing their business model over diminishing their universal player line. In short, they never "caved" to the big guys: and God bless them for that! That's why we own - and hold onto - two Oppo universal players! Keep spreading the good word! 👍
That’s very interesting and also makes sense. Glad Oppo didnt cave and water down a stellar product.
I hope you're telling me the truth lol, i just purchased one. Ive been needing a regions free bluray player for a while now and the OPPO one seemed like a great high end option. I collect physical media still and some things just doesn't release in America, i purchased the Arrow video Bruce Lee collection and some of the blurays have never been released in the states before so I was motivated to find something. Thanks for the recommendation
Just bought an OPPO BDP-105 to add to my (2) Oppo BDP-103's. Keeping them all for continued playback of my Large Multi-channel High Res. music collection.
Call me crazy but if Oppo came back manufacturing new 4K players they would sell like pancakes and would blow anything out there out of the water.
I 100% whole heartedly agree with you and I secretly hope for this to happen. They should probably get into the 4K Video Players like Zappiti and Zidoo
I keep the faith!
I had both but the magnatar is the new game changer 😊
Have both the 203 and 205. Love them!
Love the video and yes I will keep my player
I purchased my 203 in Feb 2018 and am having issues with it freezing up and skipping chapters. Fortunately, they still service for a flat fee of $129 so I am sending it in. In the interim I have purchased the Panasonic UPB9000. I agree with OPPO not including streaming apps.
That’s a pretty cheap service fee considering they arent being manufactured anymore. In my opinion they should just fix it at no charge, but its good to see they are honoring their word about maintaining limited customer support.
I could go either way on the apps. But yea I’d much prefer a company like Oppo to put more money and resources in a dedicated high end movie player than skimp on quality just to have apps. Kind of ironic how they didnt include apps but still ended up closing shop because of the growing popularity of streaming services.
Help help I have the 2030 PPO cannot find the information I need could you send it to me please on this site
www.oppodigital.com/Support_Store.aspx
Got mine from Crutchfield just before they stopped selling them in 2016. With a $50 external mod chip from ebay plugged in on the back I have a great multi region 4k bluray player going strong. But If i could get 4k for it I would!
I still have my 205 and 203. But never use anymore…
Ppl who buy products like oppo bdps , only think of QUALITY!! That's why lack of streaming isn't a problem!!😎😎
My 205 plays everything I throw at it. Every new disc I purchase works. I'm going to cry when it dies.
@ Dr. Emil Schaffhausen LOL Same! 😭 I dont remember the last time I updated it, yet any new disc still plays.
The Panasonic UB9000 is a far greater value for $1000 vs a $2500 used UDP-205. The Oppo player does more, but you'll have $1500 left over to buy another component to add in that functionality.
This is the first time I seen your channel. Pretty good. Oppo is not the only company that stop selling. Samsung and I think LG has stop. I think people like streaming because it is easy to get to not caring about the quality. I remember when I was in grad school was to make things more affordable and convince people their product is better. I was alive when they had vcrs and they tried to convince people that betamax even though it was better than vhs was beaten because it was more expensive. Beta was clearly better. Another is HD DVD and Blu-Ray. I had both and clearly HD had the better picture but because blu-ray was cheaper it won the format wars. 4K is going through the same thing and so is streaming. Physical media is superior than streaming but try to convince people that. Look at business history and you will see the same thing. It is how cheap and how conveince it is. I have a lot of movies I bought and looked at them later on streaming and you can hear and see the difference. I watched Justice League on streaming and my blu-ray was better than the 4K streaming.
J’ai même croisé certains groupes de jeunes qui m’ont dit c’est quoi la stéréo monsieur je suis parti en courant et maintenant je vois dans les grandes surfaces des grosses caisses de sonorisation qui fais Boomboom quand je demande au vendeur elle ce qu’elle sapèrent Entr’Elles il me dit Monsieur c’est quoi l’apérage je pars en courant mais par contre pour faire des teuf la tête enfoncée dans un haut-parleur de 18 pouces Red Bull d’un côté et un pétard de l’autre alors là c’est sure que là ça ébranle le cerveau si tu te fois c’est un cerveau et non du fromage blanc
My udp 203 had to be serviced a week ago.
A certain 4k disc was playing,when suddenly the picture started freezing.
Then the menu went from english to an asian text.
Then quit.
Its playing great now,but the remote won't work.
I have no control of the menu.I have to manually press play.
Has anyone experienced the same?
Wow I have not experienced any of that. Mine still works great
Yes , it happened to me twice, to correct it, go to your audio Accessibility, next - turn off voice control. I tried it on My Tv last night, and it was a lot easier to follow and almost instantly, it stopped, now doing it on a phone app., might be a lil diff. on my Tv, go to Settings , then go to accessibility page, find The Voice Over line, make sure it is turned OFF. Done. now it should not affect your usauge
I've got a Jailbroken 205 that is an actual BEAST, there's nothing it can't handle..... I'll ride this thing until it's legs fall off. I also have a Panasonic 9000 as a back up, but find myself always using the Oppo. I don't get these people moaning about streaming apps, there are plenty of options elsewhere for that stuff..... The Oppo concentrates on physical and, as you say, 'user generated' media..... and in my opinion, as it seems aligned with yours, there STILL is no better player out there in 2022.
Well said. I wouldnt have complained if they added stock apps, but I agree, I think they made the right decision to focus on better quality and experience your content in the best possible way.
I’ve been using my Oppo more recently and I’m always reminded each viewing why Oppo is still one of the best players on the market even being out of production for a few years.
Hi there, just a short question about the usages of these oppo mediaplayers, but can you upscale a regular dvd- physical disc to a quality similar to a Blu ray, or even 4K on a 50 inch 1000$ 4k tv? (2021 LG model)
I assume you use it for a greater output (maybe even a projector), but is my first question plausible?
@@GrandCamo The Oppo UDP-203 & 205 can upscale 1080p content to 4K provided you have a 4K display. Doesnt matter the size of the display. 😁 However I dont think it can upscale 720p.
I dont think I even have any 720p content to test for LOL
@@hatoraidcowboy you only collect modern movies? How do you not have a single dvd disc
I own an Oppo BDP 103 3D player. I bought it from a fellow in Chula Vista CA in a parking lot. The whole transaction was very much like a drug deal (not that I'd know, of course!) It's not going anywhere. The picture quality is flawless, the surround sound rocks and paired with my refurbished Samsung 60" 3D TV, it's a great match. My surround sound setup is a $150 Vizio I purchased at Costco. The whole setup cost me a bit over a grand and it works. I'm standing pat.
That’s awesome man! Welcome to the Oppo family!
It is probably simply the case that sales of Blu-ray players have generally fallen because of all the streaming. Then we have the problem of Blu-ray manufacturers writing 4K but not playing UHD blu-ray. which some consumers have probably discovered. Then Is the problem perhaps that stores have both regular blu-ray players and UHD BD players on the same shelf in the store without making a separation between the two types of devices in the store. Then the question is whether it was so smart to name it UHD Blu-ray. it is perhaps should have been named 4K disk player or something better. Then there is the question of whether everyone knows that there is 4K on blu-ray discs. and that these can Better image than streaming. and why didn't 4K on Blu-ray get support for 3D in the standard was it so that the theaters would have some advantage maybe
Physical media is still holding on. I dont think its going anywhere anytime soon. But I agree I think the naming could have been better.
@@hatoraidcowboy For collectors of films, cinephiles, people into cult films and classics and those who use projectors for their films physical media is still the way to go.
I agree 100%. I rip all my 4K Blu Rays 1:1
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Je me pose aussi la même question pourquoi la 3D ne se trouve pas en 4K partager du 1080 p en deux ça fait 5.40 pour les deux images superposé
En 4K (2160) diviser donnerai deux images superposées en 1080 dans le confort de l’image et sa luminosité se trouverait plus confortable
Maintenant faudrait arrêter de nous faire revenir au Moyen Âge avec les disques vinyles sans doute très bons en sonorité mais derrière faut du matériel et au moins posséder une tête de lecture elliptique c’est la base🤣🤭🧐🤣🤪🔫
My 205bd is the best audio "value" I have ever purchased! I cannot believe the quality I get. ALL I use it for is playing "Redbook" CD's and the occasional Music related DVD such as a band's recorded live performance. However, the performance I get listening to a 3000 Cd disc (and growing) collection fed into a Violecric V281 headphone amp is quite frankly, a cheap (pardon...IMHO "killer inexpensive) high end "audiophile" experience as MUCH of the electric blues stuff I like to listen to is, quite frankly, unavailable on MANY quality streaming services! WTF will I do when my trusty OPPO goes! God forfend!
I pray that my Oppo never dies 😂 Tis gonna be a sad day
I have the Cambridge model which is basically Oppo by name. Also now discontinued 😥
Interesting I didnt know that.
You must be speaking about the 752 (or 751) BD. Except for using a different DAC chip it was great at the time and the 752 was pretty much a duplicate for the 105.
Curiously, Cambridge used that SAME Wolfson chip for get this: over a DOZEN years. Looks like they really want to keep that British conection going (both UK-based) as long as they possibly could!
Even the CXN V2 streamer uses the same one... only the new MXN line finally moves to a modern Sabre.
I still use my 752BD today because you can nicely stream from an app like Mconnect
I bought the oppo 95... Blu-ray still looking great, and luv the CD.. indeed.. when I heard oppo was stop making player I decided it wasn't worth buying another as I would have like to...R.I.P...OPPO players
I have the Panasonic dp-ub820, and I was surprised how much better the picture quality was on the streaming apps from the player compared to my Panasonic oled tv apps. I don't know why but the apps performed better on the bluray player. On the other hand, my Panasonic oled tv with the Panasonic player are a match made in heaven.
Not sure streaming matters to me at all. I applaud them for focusing on what they do best.
Paid around $567 shipped for my 203 in February 2018. Guess it was the right move at the right time.
Every great once and a while I get no sound from it, and have to reset, but that could be the receiver. Nothing a quick reset couldn't fix.
They didn't support streaming, because it sucks!!
Streaming does suck!
I still have an Oppo 203 player. I really like it still and wore out my Onkyo receiver. I now have Denon AVR X4700H receiver. It is much better receiver than my Onkyo ever was, now sound matches picture.
I love my oppo...
Me too!
Indeed
I bricked my Oppo-93 with a firmware update, it's a beautiful paper weight. Mint Condition !!
😳
Got new tv yesterday and double checked on my iPhone why is he purple streaked at 8:00 mark
Had to get rid of my personal one. It was amazing because of my ability to use it with the multi speaker system, connect it to my gaming console, watching movies from my hard drives, and integrate it with all of my legacy devices. The new televisions have so many streaming options and capabilities, it just couldn't compete with the smart whole home solutions, apps and merge capabilities and so much more.
I still use it at work though. its the best solution for theater application and support remoting.
At work?? What kind of application are you using it for work?
@@hatoraidcowboy I use Crestron and Extron.
Not only do I own and love my 203- I bought a second one at the same time just in case!
*new when it was $575 apiece
Think the streaming theory is right . I bought the 203 day it came out not caring cause I stream everything through my Apple TV 4K cause it does picture great . Hate having 18 remotes but prefer one tool that does one job great instead of Swiss Army knife that does nothing well .
I bought an Oppo 203 and still have it. I use it through my Yamaha home theater receiver. I do not plan to let it go and in fact told my wife [she was mad I bought it] that if I pass away either keep it in the family or sell it at a higher cost than I paid for it. As an owner of some 2 channel Cambridge Audio equipment, I believe oppo made their Blu Ray players. At the same time Oppo stopped making Blu-ray players so did Cambridge.
Very interesting!
Question: Can you plug your computer's HDMI into the OPPO, as a pass through, to play music stored on your CPU and does it sound better then straight to your receiver? Reason why I'm asking is that I just ordered an OPPO, but have my CPU hooked up directly from a 1080TI card to a Denon 3600. Thanks in advance for any insight you, or anyone else, may have.
It’s an hdmi in so any video source can plug into it. As far as music, it would depend on the fidelity of the music source file and bit rate.
who uses a blu ray player for streaming apps?
Believe it or not there are still many who do. Companies put them on their Blu Rays for a reason 🤷♂️
Si y’a pas d’ampli AV est-ce que le streaming envoie du 5.1 ou du 7.1
@@hatoraidcowboycould you please tell me, with such a thing as the Oppo… do you even need an av receiver or could you run a ust projector with apps into the Oppo and the oppo directly out to the surround speakers? 🤔
@paulk9534 I dont think you can use the Oppo as a display. You can use the hdmi in and plug another source into it, but you would still need to run audio from the projector.
Bummed out. Just got an email from NetflixDVD. Their DVD/Blu-ray monthly subscription service is ending September, 2023... :(
I’m surprised they still had the service active at this point.
@@hatoraidcowboy It's awesome. $19.99 a mont, 3 out at a time, no max limits, mailed directly to your home, mailed back. Guess I'll get a router, wire up an ethernet connection to the UDP-205. Time to start using the 1Gig service that I am lucky to have. Just never liked the idea of streaming, even in 4k. Not made of money, buying Ultra 4K Blu-ray's, little steep for me.
I choose a physical Blu ray disc over streaming any day. I don't disagree that streaming is en vogue right now, but the pandemic is over and the reality is, my Oppo BDP93 player (yes it's that old) runs circles around my streaming apps. My Oppo was manufactured before the copy protection law, so it plays my collection of personal backup movies without blocking or scrambling. Also, no buffering issues from unstable wi-fi, AND DTS Master, DDS & Atmos movies sound awesome through my system. Some streaming sites still do not offer Atmos, and some streaming services are charging extra for those audio and video enhancements through their subscription rates. If I could get my hands on an Oppo UDP 203 that doesn't break the bank, I would jump on it. You interested in selling yours? 🙂 BTW, I also have a new Sony Blu ray player.... I still prefer my Oppo.
I dont think I’m ever selling mine LOL
Hello from Oregon, just came across this video, what TV are you currently watching 4K movies on? Thank you for the review new sub!
Hello and thank you for watching and for the sub!
I’m using an Epson 5040UB projector in my theater. I have the BDP-103 in my living room with a 2014 Bravia Sony TV
Yes absolutely, I have a 105 superb bit of kit
I own an OPPO UDP-103. Haven't used it in almost 2 years. I built a PCHT since I rip all my media to MKV files. Not sure if I'm quite ready to give up my OPPO. It did get serviced and updated not much before I retired it back into it's original packaging (bag & box). At the same time, I'm not sure exactly what to do with it. So I guess for now, I'm just hoarding it.
i have an oppo 103 that whenever i player a dvd in it i get these very tiny white lines darting across my tv screen.the dvd movies are actually watchable but that snow like lines are very annoying.what could be the problem?
Do you only get these lines while using the oppo? Does it happen on any other device? Do you have upscaling active? It could be a few things.
I have the UDP-203. I was planning on getting an IFI Zen one signature DAC. Having it between my 203 and amp for CD play. Does that sound good? I listen to SACD via the 203's 7.1 analogue outputs and bluray via HDMI. Any feedback? Thanks.
I’m not familiar with that dac, but I looked it up and seems pretty good. The 203 and specifically the 205 has great support for hi res audio with their analog inputs.
You should have an enjoyable experience 😁
@@hatoraidcowboy I will is the dac to improve my CD and streaming quality...I am very pleased with the multi channel sound via the analog outputs.. Cheers
What is the second best after those oppo's ? I don't like the idea of them dropping these niche all together. It there any analogues ?
I havent had the chance to review them, but Panasonic high end blu ray players are pretty popular. I have a blu ray player coming to the channel soon.
@@hatoraidcowboy Got it thanks. I do remember you said Oppo Panasonic and something else. Brand i never heard before.
Magnepan
Low-cost universal: Sony 800m2. Plays SACD and DVD Audio, as well as UHD. Just movies: Panasonic 820 or 9000 with added HDR picture processing. Or, the OPPO clones like Reavon or Magnetar etc.
@@johantorneheim1384 Thanks for info Johan.
Oppo 205 ❤
Used oppo 203 almost 4 years, but recently problem to play the 4k old disc. Like lionsgate disc, wonder women uk version. Nolan box set, transformer box set uk version.
Interesting, I’ve never had a disc not play on my 203.
I have 2 203's still use them and love them! I have to reboot my nvidia Shield TV on a regular basis - not so with the Oppo. If Oppo made a plex player I'd happily toss my shield in the trash.
LOL That might be the ultimate player right there!
My Nvidia has been acting super janky lately
I am privileged to own a Oppo UDP 203 and would never sell it for any amount of money. I have checked out the Reavon and I still think the Oppo is better.
Opppo’s still the best to me too
Oppo UDP 205 has the best DAC Chip of any dvd player. have a 85, 105 and UDP 205.@@hatoraidcowboy
Every 4k tv has streaming apps
Yup. I think the vast majority of people don’t care about discs anymore.
I've been playing with my 'new' 203. It's very fussy with usb drives - it won't recognize a 2TB SSD formatted exfat. A 32G thumb drive (exfat again) used to work then didn't (not recognized/ detected) until a couple of reboots. Output also seems to be related to the screen - some files give a black picture when I connect a 1080p monitor, but when I tested again with a 4k monitor, they work. It's odd, because the files are 1080 files, not 4k files. Is it something to do with the settings? Also it detects a new firmware available but will often get stuck when I choose not to update, then I need a hard power off (power button doesn't work, I need to unplug). Are these known quirks or is my machine a bit duff?
Also I'm looking at installing a region free chip - I see 2 types. One slim PCB, one larger squarer PCB. Anyone any info on these please? What's the best way to go region-free please?
The 203 does have some glitches, but it sounds like yours might be a one-off. I’ve never had those issues with mine. Where did you buy it?
@@hatoraidcowboy I bought it from a private seller. Firmware wasn't up to date so I bit the bullet and updated it. USB drives seem to work fine now, including the 2TB SSD. I also did a full factory reset as recommended. Then I got a message that there was another new firmware. I thought 'weird, didn't I just update to the latest'. I checked and I was on v45, which is very old, and oddly I thought was older than the one on the machine when I got it (though I can't be sure). Anyway, so I upgraded to V65. And touch wood, usb is workign still.
The other thing was that it could connect to my synology NAS and could only see the contents of the shared video folder but not the music, nor photos. I think it was due to an indexing issue, and now I'm begining to see the music and photo folders being populated.
Residual problem is that 2160 files won't play on a lapdock with a 1080 monitor (sound but black picture), but will play ok on a 2k monitor. The demo bluray disc plays ok on the 1080 though. Weird. Maybe its just a problem with my 1080.
Awesome glad you got it working! Crazy how a little thing like the correct firmware can make a huge difference to the performance.
I have the the Oppo-205 and I love it! I also have the Panasonic DP-UB9000 region free and it’s also a great player.
205……That’s Top Shelf sir LOL Do you feel like one is superior to the other?
I feel the Panasonic is a match in picture quality to the ub9000 but there are moments where the ub9000 may show a bit more detail in certain scenes when comparing.
@@Carlos-gc4hb Interesting. I need to get my hands on one for testing. Does the UB9000 support DLNA?
Yes, it does.
Nice
I've got the oppo 203 and the problem with that and it's a major problem. When you're watching 4K there's not a movie mould the best that you've got is standard. And with movie mode that is the most accurate picture you're going to get. So I'm very surprised that oppo didn't let you get this feature when playing 4k
I’ve never seen a movie mode on a blu ray player, you usually only see that on displays/tv’sz
Hmmm
Rookie?
I gather English is not your first language, given the meaningless of your "I've got the oppo 203 and the problem with that and it's a major problem. When you're watching 4K there's not a movie mould the best that you've got is standard."
All smart tv have streaming apps what you talking about and streaming devices have to be plugged to a TV so if you have a streaming device you still have to plug it in
Exactly, there's infinite devices to stream. I have a free Comcast unit I never use that does all that besides my projector, or any number of other options. I could give a crap less about streaming apps on a player. The fact that the OPPO 203 doesn't have them while focusing on physical media made it a bigger selling point for me and the fact that it can be modified so I can upscale on just about anything. I use a CPU to stream, or go online and that works great for my needs.
I agree with you…I bought the Oppo for 4K playback. But it’s a very niche product and the majority of people have abandoned physical media in leu of streaming services. But I think had they added streaming apps it would have been more of a selling point to a wider demographic.
@@hatoraidcowboy the reason they abandoned streaming app and put the money on the audio side is because tvs are doing it
@@hatoraidcowboy no one with an old out dated TV is gonna get an oppo lol
@@chriswelljack4910 I get it, but I dont think the normal consumer thinks like we do lol If the normal person sees zero apps then they look elsewhere
Bad timing of market and lack of profits is why I think Oppo left. in 2017. I was able to get my first 4K player for $45 from LG at Walmart while Oppo 203 was selling for $500. Samsung still was making their players, Panasonic was making as well as Sony. Lots of competition as the market was drying up and shift to streaming without a lot of 4K disc availability. Now 5 years later the 4K disc availability is there with an avid fan base but not much in the player market. Samsung left as well. Sony discontinued their top tier. LG, Panasonic, and Sony haven't upgraded their models in years. Reavon and Magnetar are trying, but each have drawbacks. I don't know if volume is there to make it worth Oppo's time to return, but if they did in the Reavon/Magnetar pricing those two brands would most likely go under. My Reavon can handle almost as much as a Oppo can, but external media browser is irritating slow to the point I bought a separate media player. Disc playback though is incredible.
I have a OPPO that won’t play can you help me get in touch with someone to help me fix it
You can email Oppo directly. They are still offering customer support for their players
Who's with me here on this thought? Physical media players are making a comeback because people are realizing streaming both video and especially audio sucks in comparison. I would billion times more rather listen to true disc Atmos (or audio in general) then crappy streaming Atmos.
Here's hoping Oppo pulls a "Technics" and make a return from the dead in the coming years. After 5 years dormant, Panasonic recognized that the world is now open to better sounding music... So maybe Oppo will too!!
I would love for that to happen but I wont hold my breath lol
I use the UDP-203 and since a Month i also have the UDP-205 and i use them very oftem in change.
Ballin outta control I see lol Any reason you have both? Are you using the upgraded dacs on the 205? Or you have them in separate rooms?
@@hatoraidcowboy I just wanted to have them, OPPO is high-end and I'm currently using both of them, one (203) on the TV set and the other (205) now on the projector and both via a Denon receiver. I don't use DAC yet, but more and more 4K Blu Ray
That’s awesome man. Yea I cant bring myself to sell my 203 even at insane prices people are buying them. They’re just too good.
Oppo 203, Gold. Until death do us part. DNLA and BubbleUPnP etc, no problem.
Just jump new gen DACs from HDMI out, future proof super HiRes audio right there.
8K, who gives a ratz?
Reavon and Magnetar are good alternatives. Probably Oppo clones :)
Magnetar is def a clone.
However, there should be a streaming service for Sony TV called Bravia Core, it is stated that you should have a high streaming speed of 80 Mbit/s, note that this applies to specific TV models such as the BRAVIA XR series. But I also think that Apple should have a high streaming speed on its Film service, at least on the films that you rent or buy in Apple TV.
Yea Bravia Core is supposed to look pretty good. But that’s dependent on your isp speeds. And I dont know what their library is like to make it worth it.
False.
Stop confusing Bit Rate with internet streaming speed.
Bravia Core can stream movies at around 80Mbps BIT RATE quality.
The recommended download speed you need to enjoy that 80Mbps bit rate quality is around 125Mbps download speed.
I’m not confused. Never said I was.
203 is my PLAYER. Reads ANY video file.
Ok, I have an option to buy the Oppo 203 for $1250 Cdn Dollars...or do I go for the way cheaper Sony UBP X800M2 at $450.....The Sony plays the SACD and DVD audio which is what I am more interested in but it would be nice to have the 4K Ultra option as I have never owned a blu ray so I am just getting my feet wet with these formats so in reality both are comparable. Price is not an issue meaning I can afford the Oppo but it would be great to justify it. It has come down to these two. Any advice would really help out. Many thanks in advance
Interesting dilemma LOL I wouldnt normally spend $1200 on a 4K Blu Ray player, but if money is no object AND it’s new, go with the Oppo ALL DAY. You’re gonna get a MUCH better player, better built, better features and more reliable. If the Oppo is not new….😬 I dont know if I would pay that much for used. But Sony is gonna come close to the Oppo
@@hatoraidcowboy Thanks for responding yes the Oppo is used. He claims that "My unit has the genuine region A Oppo firmware that allows you to play cloned 4k UHD and bluray discs from USB drives, which is what I have used it for so the actual disc transport has had very little use".
Im like you its very difficult to shell out that money considering it's used but he has a great rep on the site Im buying from.
I might just hit Best Buy and test the Sony for a month and decide then. If I lose out on the Oppo then it's fate. Plus, he's had the add up for three months.
Thanks again.
@@hatoraidcowboy So having said all this I just read your review on the Magnetar. Not as expensive as the Reavon and from what I have read the Reavon is pretty buggy.
Do you still feel the Magnetar is comparable to the Oppo in every way?? Yes...pricey but at least Id be getting a warranty....as opposed to the used Oppo.
@@hatoraidcowboy Also, with the Magnetar and Oppo. Can I stream audio via Tidal??
@Dukerbud88 Yea the Magnetar is probably the closest you’ll get to the Oppo. IMO the Oppo is still the better player but they’re close
How does Stream Apple Music & Spotify through this player w/o and sound degradation?
Hello! I havent ever user Oppo players like that. They dont have streaming capabilities unless you are using the DLNA function. But no native Apple Music or Spotify support.
I wish. Thanks
Still reign supreme? You're freaking right about that! Tried to get a used player from different places and finally EBay and they are still stupid expensive!
Crazy after all these years the prices are still exuberant. Testament to how good these players still are!
No joke I saw prices anywhere between 900 to 1500 for a used UDP-203, that's just nuts and I bet they will get more expensive as time goes on you know. Speaks volumes about the product!@@hatoraidcowboy
I own two OPPO players and I use them daily, specially for music playback. I think you are totally wrong about why OPPO stopped producing bluray players, it has nothing to do with streaming or going out of buisness, OPPO is a pretty large chinese company with a facade in the US to market their video/audio products, they simply decided that the cellphones business is much more profitable than the video/audiophile niche markets, it's was not worth the money nor the effort. OPPO has a big chunk of the top segment of the mobile phone market. As an audiophile I can tell you that the price of many hifi gear is so high, that must audiophiles consider the OPPO players to be almost a bargain, just a HiFi CD or SACD player can go for thousands of dollars and not even get close to what a OPPO player could handle. I believe more OPPO players were bought by audiophiles that from the video user crowd. The two brands that continue the legacy of OPPO are REAVON and MAGNETAR, the brand is from France, but the players are built by a chinese hitech company, maybe the same factory that designed and built OPPO players, REAVON players ( I own a UDP-X200) are very, very similar to the latest OPPO's.
I think Oppo phones are more popular overseas than they are in the states. I’ve never come across one person that owns an Oppo phone. So it was a weird move to me, to drop Oppo players when they were so beloved by Home Theater Enthusisasts
@@hatoraidcowboy Sure, I am from Colombia; here we can get OPPO phones as well as One Plus that is also owned by OPPO. Apple has the biggest share in the US, but as far as I know it is the only place in the world were Apple is the leader, in the rest of the world Android phones rule.
Yea. Interestingly enough, I have a Magnatar UDP800 waiting for me to review when I get home tomorrow.
... that's because Oppo phones aren't available in the States through normal channels. We get the crappy watered down Oneplus versions here.
As has always been the case, picking up a Chinese phone is not a smart idea here because the bands don't work the same... for instance there's no 5G to speak of.
Oh poh
Not ah poh
i have a OPPO 103D and 203 and will NOT part with them.
I have the same players! (Minus the darbee)
The average consumer would never pay that much to begin with. They would spend 50 bucks.
I wonder if the Oppo supports e arc connections??
No just regular arc hdmi 2.0
@@hatoraidcowboy Thanks for the info
You’re welcome!
For the current prices is overrated, there's many Scalpers and Resellers asking for $4K and ridiculous nasty prices
Yea its wild. I’d never pay that
Lack of streaming apps wasn't the downfall for Oppo streaming period was the downfall.
Also very true. We gotta keep Blu Ray alive!!
No, the 203 and 205 were profitable, just not profitable ENOUGH compared to their cell phone sales.
@@psbarrow For the longest I didnt know they made cell phones. You almost NEVER hear about them.
Oppo is dead. Probably the best (and many consider even better than Oppo) is the Panasonic 9000/9004.
Yeah, honestly, I never understood what the big fuss was about … I bought one for £800 in the UK, sold it in less than a month of owning it, years ago … I prefer the Panasonic better, even the “lesser” 820 … in terms of picture quality, it is not bad, I would say its biggest trump card is the sharpness you get, but, honestly, the Panasonic is better … having said that, it’s not a bad player, but I honestly think it’s ridiculously over priced and hyped … also, for such an expensive player, I would expect it to at least play most, if not all the files you feed it, outside of discs, through your server etc … I find it unacceptable that it doesn’t support quite a few video codecs
There's better SACD players than the OPPO
True, but with the Oppo you’re not just getting an SACD player. You’re getting a highly performing multifunctional player
@@hatoraidcowboy yes but sound quality is first, so sacd player + oppo will be perfect
@@JohnSmith-zl8rz Fair enough. I think the vast majority of people buying oppo’s are buying them for movies….audio and video. The true SACD audiophiles would probably just buy a stand alone SACD player like you said.
Hooked up my new 203 (HDMI) and compared the SACD with my Marantz SA KI Pearl. Cant separate them so far. Will try the analogue outs to use the DAC and maybe then I'll be able to separate / rank the players.
That sounds like a fun comparison 😄 Let me know your findings!
Oppo will be back again, just wait!
I’m hoping! That would be great. They should target the market with Zappiti and Zidoo
I truly hope so!
Selling my 205
😮 I hope you get some fat cash for it LOL What you replacing it with?
@@hatoraidcowboy playing lol
Lollllll
@@hatoraidcowboy I like your channel you doing a good job .the review am itching for is the emotiva t3+
@@chriswelljack4910 Thanks man! I dont know when I’m gonna get those. I’m on the list though
Oppo is dead don’t live in the past.grab a reavon x200 and have fun
LOL To each his own 🤷♂️ I still love my Oppo I’m never getting rid of it. I’d love to get my hands on a Reavon though for comparison
LOL, do you have a second job, or are you a full-time comedian?
Me or the other dude? Lol
@@hatoraidcowboy Other dude. As you and I already have a 205 and know its capabilities, his claim that we're living in the past and should buy a Reavon are comical.
Gotcha lol Yea Oppo is still superior than 99% of blu ray players on the market
i've had all the oppos, the 205 is still in my rack and i use it as a preamp to drive my mac. damn i'm a poet and didn't even know it? haha.
I bought my OPPO 203 for $599 in 2018. Still Loving it, along with my OLED, Denon & KEF 5.1.2
Got a 103D back in the BluRay days, region free of course. Never had to worry about any of that crap! Then, moved on to my 203 I got when travelling to LA for work. Here in Sweden they used to cost 50% more than in the US! Sales taxes are higher, but the rest was just OPPO EU and pure greed. Also region free and still going strong when I watch the occasional disc. Never getting rid of those players! The 103 can be used to rip SACD to a NAS if needed. Super-niche, but a nice to have.
I have owned a Oppo 105… for years… who mods these players… I only care about audio…..
I am grabbing the BDP103 off a friend for $50 , and looking at the specs it still kicks any BR out there .. i am not into 4k so i am ok
Awesome! I still have my BDP103 and yea it’s still reigns supreme over other 1080p players and it upscales to 4K! Hope you enjoy it.
Hi@@hatoraidcowboy my 103 doesnt read 4K disc but i havent check setting at this point, is there a setting to able play 4K disc? thanks
@chitodeguzman5164 You can’t play 4K discs but the 103 will upscale to 4K resolution
I think the main reason Oppo stopped doing UHD players is because they sell a lot more mobile phones and that's their main business now. The # of people buying high end 4K Players is shrinking. Then there are cheap players from Panasonic, Sony and other Chinese makers that are hard to beat at that price.
Yup. Its sad times for us physical media enthusiasts.
Yep... I heard they turned the Oppo Blu-ray player line into a mobile phone manufacturing line for India. Bad decision :(
To be honest today you have the Panasonic ub9000, Pioneer udp-lx500 and Pioneer udp-lx800. There's also an fairly new player in town Pannde PD-6 and PD-6X they're all good players.
I have an Oppo-203 and a Panny UB9000. In terms of pure video quality, especially with HDR10 discs, the UB9000, with its HDR Optimizer edges the OPPO out by a smidge. Dolby Vision is pretty much even. The OPPO does have a sleeker interface than the Panny and a better self-lighting remote. Even though the Panny has some streaming apps, they are easily outclassed by any Roku, Firestick or Nvidia Shield. The one gigantic advantage that the OPPO has over the Panny is its ability to play almost any combination of video and audio encoding (including lossless) in MKV and MP4 files. It's also better with BDMVs. The Panny is very limited in this area and can't even play E-AC3 tracks. It's one reason that I'll never get rid of my OPPO. There has been one issue with my OPPO however. My setup has been Denon AVRs and an LG C7 OLED TV. Prior to my getting the latest Denon X3800 AVR, my OPPO had problems with HDMI handshaking when playing Dolby Vision discs. The LG would go to its "No Signal" screen briefly or sometimes longer I tried every combination of video settings without success . There were no problems with HDR10 discs. The Panny had no problems here. OPPO blamed Denon, Denon blamed LG but nobody could come up with an answer. It was one reason why the UB9000 became my primary disc player and the OPPO was used mostly with a USB external hard drive. Since I got the Denon X3800 the DV/ handshake problems have subsided quite a bit although they still crop up from time to time. I still use the UB9000 as the primary disc spinner but I also use the OPPO as well and, again, I ain't never giving up my OPPO unless it goes completely toes up one day and OPPO is no longer providing service.
Not sure if you found solution but its been documented that lg oleds are a hit or miss, I switched a while back and have had 0 issues
Why would a BD player need streaming apps?l
That's what STBs, PCs, and smart TVs are for.
I agree. But a lot of people want apps on their blu ray player.
@@hatoraidcowboy--- Weird, that kind of mentality is for poor people. People who can't afford separate devices want a single device that does everything "okay" and people that can afford separate devices want them to do one thing great!
It's like wanting your microwave to also be a food processor or your bicycle to also be an ironing board.
I'm currently poor, but if I had money to waste on these kinds of luxury items, I'd want each to do the best job at it's specific function, and if that means I need to buy 5, 10, 15, or 20 separate devices, then that's what I'd do.
I can't imagine people with these pauper mindsets were ever going to be the customers buying these BD players for the cost of a used car anyway.
It's like vegans telling the local butcher they won't be shopping there until he starts selling carrots and turnips.
*EDIT*
I just realised these current prices are much higher than the MSRP at release, but my point stands, these high quality devices are meant for individuals that are going to spend thousands at a minimum for an entire system, the people that want apps included basically want the BD player to be their system, they want to spend hundreds.
If that's what they wanted, they should have bought a cheaper 4K player and spent the difference on a smart TV or connected their computer to the BD player or TV directly.
🤣🤣🤣
@@hatoraidcowboy--- Dang, I lost my heart when I edited my post.
I do, BDP - 105 , I love the audio quality, it freezes on you tube when you try to fast forward other wise still best.
Yea I dont think they ever invested much into streamings.
I managed to brick my Oppo-93 with a firmware update. It's a beautiful paper weight !!
Correct my friend
@hatoraidcowboy --- I'm thinking of getting a BD or 4K player, what kind of price range do they have? *Where's the best bang for my buck?*
Also, any recommendations on where I can find high-end VCRs (capable of playing: VHS Dolby, VHS Hi-Fi, S-VHS, W-VHS, D-VHS, etc.) in good condition and high-end Nuon capable DVD players?
There’s a wide range of price for Blu Ray players. You can get from $50-$2000 or more. Depends on what features you want.
Unfortunately I know nothing about where to find old tech lol
@@hatoraidcowboy--- What kinds of features would be offered at $200 and above?
@antiWhiteism777 Most blu ray players support Dolby Vision at every price level. For $200, its hard to say though. It depends on the brand. Some offer DLNA and file playback
@@hatoraidcowboy--- Is DLNA only useful if I have some kind of home network? What if my AV input sources to the TV/AVR are limited to VCR, DVD player, PC connected to internet for streaming or just watching on video sites like TH-cam, Daily Motion, and "less legitimate" sites, or just some movies I downloaded from the internet to my PC/HDD? *Why does the BD player need DLNA, won't I just be using it to play BDs?*
@antiWhiteism777 You dont need dlna, just saying those are some futures you may or may not get depending if that’s important to you. DLNA lets you stream your content from a computer or NAS over your local network
Yes 100%
Yes, I still use my 205 for Roon. Swapped out the power supply
Shame it can't do DSD or multi-channel through Roon
Oppo just didn't have an interest in making the players anymore. Their main business was and is phones, sold primarily in China. Half the population in China is 16-59. Quite the large demographic to sell phones. They are now also growing their mobile phone sales outside of China.
Still makes no sense to me. They had a hardcore cult following because their players were THE BEST on the market. I dont think they marketed them properly. If you’re not a hardcore enthusiast then you probably didnt know existed.
I believe was around the progressing decline in sales for preorder and the cost of production and that fact that UHD 4K was also probably the last disc format for a long time with little reason to progress and make another version 3 years later. The company I believe was located in California for the OPPO digital operations in which I'm sure overhead was high for promoting the player and the headphones and amplifiers was not going to grow market share in the coming years. It appeared pretty early on they had hit the top of the production costs of the player when the streaming app support was off the table because of licensing costs associated plus firmware support for fixing the app but was said because they wanted a pure disc player to cover the reasoning.
@@Tidbitkid Yea seems like a weird decision. One the one hand app support would drive up the cost to license said apps, but on the other hand these companies are all in cahoots so the partnerships go hand in hand. Seems like some kind of brand deal could have been made to offset production and licensing costs.
BD 103, and happy
I do. BDP 103
Ofc they are! What a stupid question. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😎😎
MY BAD…..My bad 😂😂😂
I have a 203 my only fear is the laser dying on me and to get it serviced. Otherwise a great investment..
How often do you use yours?
@@hatoraidcowboy I mostly play digital hi res music files, bought online, movies, even though I have a lot of Blu-ray Discs