The dealer opens and drops the transmission pan in order to get out as much as possible of the fluid, which is what I recommend, you can do it only once every 50k miles to keep your CVT tip top .
Every 50 000 miles / 80 000km is too much. If it is only 50% drain then you should drain it 2x so you can get most of the fluid out. And every 30 000miles or 50k km. Or every 2 years. Don't leave fluid more than 2 to 3 years in your transmission. It gets cooked badly.
To remove half of the fluid you need to remove the oil pan as well And while you're at it you need to clean the pan and clean the three little magnets I also replaced the oil pan gasket as well as the oil filter and o-ring
@southernberean8166 I follow him (Amd is his name) and followed his procedure 2x in a week on my 2015 Yaris 1.3L here in the UK,first time was 2 yrs ago at 88k & changed mine 2x in a week as it takes 2.2L each drain so got a 5L bottle. 2nd time 1x recently so keeping the rest stored in my house so no moisture gets in it sitting in the garage. 2yrs ago a 5L bottle of FE cost me £65 but recently it's £75 😯 Will use up the rest maybe next year so i'll know my fluid is tip top & will change again in 5yrs time with roughly 25k added. I get 58mog which is v.good & it's roughly the same fuel consumption as the 6 speed 1.3L manual.
Since my last comment regarding the fluid to use in the corolla's CVT FE transmission, I now have this to say: I asked the computer who made my transmission and here is what I found: "Yes, the Aisin AW company manufactured the CVT FE transmission in your 2015 Toyota Corolla S1. If you need to replace the transmission fluid, you can use the Aisin CVT FE fluid which is available at Toyota dealerships and other auto parts stores". So, AISIN is the maker, and now I use their CVT FE fluid for about just a little bit over $10 per quart! Yep, the same thing in that "Toyota can" except a ton less expensive. Now you know where the money came from to build those nice dealership waiting rooms!
I've drained and filled on my Verso a few days ago. There's a plastic level straw in there but it's very hard to have the car exactly level on the lift. Honestly I don't think the exact level of fluid there is critical. Plus-minus 10% shouldn't make a difference since the car is supposed to drive without issues at incline anyway - and the filter intake is at the bottom of the pan. I've drained what I could, put the straw back, filled until it started to come out again, closed the drain and added 250ml more for a safe measure.
the straw in the pan tells you the correct amount of fluid at 104 degrees. once the fluid stops spilling out into the straw is when you know the fluid is the correct amount. No special tools needed.
espaghetti99 I really hope the 15k people read this comment. This guy shouldn’t make this video if he has no idea what he’s talking about. All those people with false information. Never base any car information of of fake Scotty killmor.
daryl howard, troll? or am I being completely honest. Ask any reputable mechanic about him and they’ll have the same outlook. Just mention his name to a shop and watch their eyes roll. He has the “following” because of the entertainment side of it, not the correct know how. I’m simply stating the fact that his methods might cause problems for people down the road. He’s a “home owner” style mechanic. The DIY, backyard messy shop type. He has the following just like jake Paul and other cringe youtubers. Views and likes don’t make someone great Kim Kardashian. 👍
V3GAf32209 With the straw in the dealer will run the car until the fluid gets to 104 degrees. They have a scanner that will tell them that. Transmission fluid expands when it gets hot. If you use the straw to measure cold fluid you will end up with too much. You can buy a scanner online if you want one.
Hey thank you, for your video it was very informative 👍 and much appreciated! I have a 2017 Corolla with a CVT . I felt the Dealer was being deceptive about this Transmission when they told us , it was a lifetime Transmission !
Change every 30,000 miles to keep it clean. I get about 3.5 qts when I changed it. I also used the universal ATF/CVT transmission fluid is about $24 of five qts
You can get close to 100% by doing several small changes. Change the 2 quarts or so then drive the car for a few days. Then do it again. After 5 or 6 times you will be in the 90% new fluid range. You can calculate this out mathematically. This will be expensive because the fluid cost so much. But it’s the only way to change all (most) of the fluid.
Others have already commented about it, but you can use the Aisin CVT fluid which is much more affordable (I just bought some at $8.51/qt from rockauto). Just search for "AISIN ATFTFE". (Aisin is the transmission manufacturer).
Same is the case with my Corolla. 2014 Sept model. Owned it for 7 years. Never changed CVT oil. Done only 50,000 kms. I had a 2010 Altima which I sold in 2019. 170,000 kms. Never changed CVT oil. Never had issues with CVT. Bought a Honda in 2022. They sent a message a month back that CVT oil need to be changed!!
I just did my 2015 Corolla CVT. I removed the pan and put in a new filter(strainer). I got 5 quarts out(4.75 liters). I got that when removing the filter and also letting it drip for an hour. That means you need 6 quarts. You replace the 5 quarts and add half of the 6th quart then the draining of excess fluid using the fluid temperature controlled method. See other videos on here for that. Did this at 130K after just buying the car. No problems after days of driving.
@@jshepard152 If I had the car since new, I may not have dropped the pan either just because I would have drained the fluid way before most people do. As we know, most don’t change it at all ….. ever! Oh and your comment is something like a year after I posted that and still no problems with having changed the fluid at 130K. Remember, most of the fluid drained out. No converter in a CVT transmission.
@@jshepard152 Thanks, no, 130K was then. It has like 150K now. I think it has been a year and a half or a bit more since I changed the fluid. Can’t recall right now exactly.
You have to do it first thing in the morning level when it’s cold and keep the car level and then when you put the same amount back in by the drivers fuel plug I think it’s good to put a half a quart more in it crank it up stationary and work it back-and-forth Also don’t forget to push in the “bypass” I don’t know if that’s the right one that will get some additional fluid out you can hold it in place with a smaller then 6 mm hex wrench
what model is the Aisin transmission? you might need to drop the pan, change the filter and clean the magnets. because there are lots of metal shavings in the oil and it becomes abrasive!!! and that is the nature of CVTs
If memory serves the transmission is made by Aisin, Rock Auto carries the FE fluid for roughly 8 bucks a quart. The dealer here wants 260 for the service. Thank you for the video-been looking for a good explanation on this service.
I’ve owned 6 Toyotas between 2004 and 2020. They used to make great cars that would last a long time with reasonable maintenance. Apparently too long. Thus, features like the 2010 prius piston rings that lead to oil consumption problems. Or suggesting 10000 mile oil changes. And a transmission designed to make it almost impossible to do a proper fluid change….at best you can dilute the old stuff. Design choices like this are not an accident, someone is focused on making the vehicles wear out faster. Which is why my most recent car purchase was not a Toyota. All done with them.
Drain and fills at the dealer are a sufficient way to maintaining a healthy transmission. Obviously the more you drain the better, however, as the transmission gets older and naturally begins to wear. you want some of that wear material in the fluid to help it out. Which is why i only recommend drain and fills. and not flushes. My 2013 Tundra is at 260k miles and have done drain and fills every 50k miles. Havent had a single issue with it.
Is that actually true for CVTs, they only have one gear for the Toyotas. I understand the belt wearing down and maybe the wear material would help with friction.
I was able to flush out 2.7litres with out jacking the car up. You can get to the drain plug and fill plug with out jacking up the car or taking off the tyre.
UK viewer here. I did 2x drain & fill in a week on my 2015 Yaris 1.3L, first time was 2 yrs ago at 88k as it takes 2.2L each drain so got a 5L bottle. 2nd time with just x1 drain & fill was recently so i'm keeping the rest stored in my house so no moisture gets in it sitting in the garage. 2yrs ago a 5L bottle of FE cost me £65 but now it's £75 😯 Will use up the rest maybe next year so i'll know my fluid is tip top & no need to change till 5yrs time with roughly 25k added. I get 58mpg which is v.good & it's roughly the same as the 6 speed manual 1.3L
There is the straw that will leak excess cvt out once it is up to the correct level. After first drain and fill, start the engine. Let it run and shift thru all the gears, P, D, N, R, + - + - + -, and R and N, R, N.. Then slowly shift it back to P.. Measure the oil pan temp, it should be ard 40'C.. Then off the engine .. Open the 6mm hex plug.. Let it leak from the top of the straw.. Top up till it starts dripping. That means it is at the correct level now. Lock the nut back, job done.
You can change all of the fluid. you have to take the line off the transmission cooler and start the car and let it pump 2 quarts out then add 2 quarts back,repeat this until the fluid coming out is clean. overfill it about 1/4 quart, then you have to do the fluid level check procedure.
Have done my Prado transmission exactly as you wrote but does that apply to the CVT transmissions as well ? I really cant see why not 2 out 2 in till clean
Straw sets fluid level at temp 104F (eg let sit overnight if trans hot etc) ...The logic is simple and easy...Level surface....Trans/ambient temps at ~ 104F/40C ...remove plug and straw to remove oil...refit straw...leave plug OFF..slowly fill trans till oil flows out of straw....make sure trans/ambient/oil temps below 104F/40C eg warmth of your underarm :).......The difficulty is working out how to make it sound complicated so that owner can be charged more than the job is worth........HOT oil = higher levels and that's why oil might come out when you undo sump plug......correct level and correct temp = no oil out when remove plug.
The Car Care Nut channel (others too) has a video on how to get the proper fluid level without a dealer level or any scan tool on modern Toyotas. You do some kind of sequence that puts it in a special mode and something flashes when the fluid is heated to the right temp, if it goes too hot something else happens and you missed your shot. It didn't look complicated at all.
The sequence is putting it back and forth in drive/reverse/neutral. I’ve watched several videos, but I didn’t memorize the sequence yet. I do watch the car care nut.
@MonkeyPunchZPoker I follow him (Amd is his name) and followed his procedure 2x in a week on my 2015 Yaris 1.3L here in the UK,first time was 2 yrs ago at 88k & changed mine 2x in a week as it takes 2.2L each drain so got a 5L bottle. 2nd time 1x recently so keeping the rest stored in my house so no moisture gets in it sitting in the garage. 2yrs ago a 5L bottle of FE cost me £65 but recently it's £75 😯 Will use up the rest maybe next year so i'll know my fluid is tip top & no need to change again in 5yrs time with roughly 25k added. I get 58mog which is v.good & it's roughly the same fuel consumption as the 6 speed 1.3L manual. I didn't need to remove the wheel & plastic cover as i had room to undo the 24mm nut & re fill from the top with a garden hose & funnel....bit slow but it works.
Update : yesterday I did a cvt fluid change again . The second in 4 months given that I only got 25 % changed the first time . This time I dropped pan and changed cvt filter . This time I was able to get exactly 4 L to come out . Perhaps your dealer changed filter and pan gasket while changing your fluid ? You do get a lot more fluid out when dropping pan and cvt filter Vs only draining fluid . The car is a 2016 with 90k . I have managed to exchange about 2/3 of the original fluid overall since August . They have 3 small magnets in oil pan . Mine had next to nothing for debris .
Thanks for the information on the Magnet. My has 90k and did a drain and fill but I was worry about the Magnet need to be cleaned but drop the pan make is much more complicated.
@@malachiintsounds9245 In the case of my Toyota U341E 4 speed automatic transmission, if you just drain and fill you replace just 42% of the ATF: maybe if you drain and fill 2 times in the same service session, with a driving interval of a few miles, you replace 84% of the ATF?
@@hd221813 Not so. You replace 42% the first time. You replace 42 % of the mixture (42% + 58% of the old mixture) the second time which gives you close to 74 % new ATF.
Thank you VERY much for posting this information as I have one of these vehicles and I have been trying to get to the bottom of whether or not I should service my transmission. I am a retired ASE automotive repair tech and I have personally serviced hundreds of transmissions over the years. But obviously this CVT transmission is very different then the tranies I used to work on. Anyway I plan on keeping my 2014 Corolla which is currently working great. I just need to gather more information and this video helps thank you. (To service or not to service that is the question (lol).
Service it often so the fluid is as clean as it can be most of the time. People get in trouble when they try to go from filthy fluid to clean fluid. It’s a shame that they make it this difficult. But there is no better car manufacturer to buy it you want to keep it forever.
Hello. I have a Toyota Auris 2014, I have a problem with the CVT gearbox. When the car is cold, I have no problem. After 15 minutes of walking, the car starts to falter and vibrate and has no power left, and when it cools down, everything is back to normal.
In one if the videos you linked, they dropped the pan and changed the filter. They got just over 3.5 quarts out. Chances are they dropped yor pan and filter and then reinstalled both.
Very good video! I would think as long as you put back in what you have drained out, you should be fine. If your doing it at home, I would drain the fluid cold, that way it’s the same temperature as the fluid going in. Apparently the cvt fluid changes volume when it’s hot. Plan on buying one of these cars in future and want to know how to do this.
It has a fill straw and you have to run to temp to get it correct. 😅 Plus the vehicle has to be level, shift through all the gears leaving it in each gear like 30 seconds so on and so forth. I think there's a video on here that talks about tying pins 4 and 13 together. 😅 I'm an American car guy. To be honest I'm learning about this little vehicle to help a friend out. You can't change all the fluid in the American cars either. Typically in a transmission that's installed. You cant because there's a cooler. I guess you could if you disconnected the line from the cooler and then you pulled the fuel relay so the vehicle wouldn't start and you just turned it over to cause a transmission to pump the fluid out via the cooler. The return line would still have some though. 😅 I think the best way is just to take the 60,000 mi rule and divided in half and then do the transmission fluid only at the halfway point and leave the filters in place. Typically the little pressure filters only need to be changed around every 120 to 150,000, mi. Because it's not really so much a filter as it's just a straw that's designed to catch the big chunks in case of a transmission failure, it's not like an engine oil filter. Caveat being some of the older transmissions like those in an American muscle car that are based on the 50s transmissions, they will have a spin on high pressure filter and not just a cartridge filter. The high pressure filter is actually filtering out debris and can get clogged😅
hello teacher, your video is very good, I have a question for you I have a 2016 corolla with a CVT automatic transmission and I have to change the carter because I damaged it, but inside the carter there are some magnets and I wanted to know what they are for and what happens if not they are put back when you put the new carter, I would appreciate an answer, greetings and blessings
As had been said the initial drain a little over two qts. I'm thinking for a quick two qt. change why not back fill the 2 qts. plus through the so called plastic straw. My question is this, What is the inside diameter of the straw ??? Thank you
I used Aisin fluid as the transmission is made by them. Did a change at 110k, car was driver to 165K and sold with no transmission issues. th-cam.com/video/JPLM8b_uxxI/w-d-xo.html
If you do your own maintenance, you could just drain and fill 2 quarts of CVT fluid each time you change the oil. Every 60K miles, all the CVT fluid would have cycled out more than once already.
Horseshit. Cvt’s need fluid changes every 30k miles. No exceptions. They will fail if you do not change the fluid every 30k miles. Not a question of if, but when.
@@andybub45 last time I took my Tundra in for service, I got that info directly from the master tech. They have a backlog of 20+ Corolla’s and CH-R’s needing full cvt replacements. Some had as few of 10k miles up to 80k miles. I also live in a hot climate as designated by Toyota. Because of Covid, the cvt’s had been on a months long backorder. Cheers.
I took my 2011 Corolla to change the transmission fluid and when I got home I looked at the fluid and it looked somewhat dirty purple color fluid. I was expecting it to look red cherry color. My question is did they actually do the service or forgot to do it
You typically can’t change out all the fluid so some of the old fluid will mix the the new fluid. I’d should look much newer overall but might not be perfect. I’ve done 6 drain and fills and it never looks perfect unless you constantly change it.
I have a 1KR-FE engine, the CVT transmission apparent refill nut is labelled 'TC' so I figured that's the type of fluid I will have to use for my transmission?
@@ratpoision9298 i checked the link and i just spent the last 10 minutes under my hood trying to check this info out. my trans is set up differently from the way this one is set up. that car i assume is not a us spec car and that post is from 2011. im guessing they have changed things since then and i found something in the same area that could be an updated version to that but im not sure.
I got out 5 1/2 quarts and when I filled it up I went ahead and put another half which made it six after I drove it around a week I dry and what was left in the overflow pan out
Unfortunately there is no good way to check it at home. If the car is working OK you could tackle this and just carefully measure what came out. If you’re having an issue with the trans or you’re not comfortable doing it that way I would have the dealer do it. They can check the correct level with their tools.
CVT are picky when it comes to fluid level. Yes, it will damage your transmission. “Weberauto “ channel shows the tools and how to check the fluid level on Toyotas. It is complicated and costly. You are better off letting the dealership do it.
I own a 2015 Toyota Corolla le and everytime I make a U turn it makes a grinding sound and starts losing power. I've checked everything underneath too see if anything's lose but nothing so far. Was this the Recall that Toyota was telling me about because the car got only 85.000 on the clock.
Toyota dealer said they would take all the cvt fluid out and would not change the filter because there are no replaceable filters to be changed. Is taking all the fluid out is a risky approach? Will it cause transmission slip? Please advise. Thank you.
i dont believe that. the torque converter is not drainable so you cant get all the fluid out without completely taking the transmission apart. there is a filter inside but its more of a screen than a filter. not a big deal if its not done but keeping the fluid clean is much more important so it doesnt break down and clog it.
@@EnthusiastsGarage thanks very much for your prompt reply. They said they would use a some sort of machine to take out the fluids and that's when I thought of a transmission flush more than just a fluid change. Should I go ahead with this approach? Would it cause transmission to slip? My 2017 corolla im has only 23,000 miles. Let me know. Thank you again.
drain and fill is fine you dont need to flush. if the fluid is very old then a flush could be bad but im not sure if that applies to CVT but traditional automatics yes. use Amsoil brand fluid its the best you can get as far as i know it lasts twice as long as regular stuff.
You can add the same amount of fluid you have taken out then run the car for 12-15 minutes then drain again and since it doesn't take much I would repeat the procedure for at least 3 time this you kind flush the entire transmission... good luck everyone
I bought two cans each $98 and some change from one of the dealerships I can’t get it online anywhere if you can show me where it’s cheaper and I’m in the factory fe fluid let me know
hello, I have a question, because I am little bit confused. I read around 10 articles, 3 official forum Toyota and 80% recomend to change oil in CVT after +/- 60 000 km. But from official Dealer in Poland I have got information that this is not necessery, and they do it only when they are changing gear for the new one. I want to buy Corolla 2016r, 1.6, CVT, 86 000km. and really I don't know - change oil or not, is it save or not, is 86k km is not too late for changing gear oil (of course if it's really necessery). help :)
You can tel the condition of the fluid based on the color of fluid that’s coming out. If the fluid is clear red or pink it means it’s healthy, If it’s brown it means it’s around the time for a change, if it’s dark brown it means the fluid is in bad condition and u can sometimes feel the sand-like metals through your fingers.
So wait why does it even matter to measure what came out, if the straw sets level after warming and gear cycle procedure. Because if there was to much added back, it would spill out when taking the plug out the second time
When I took the drain plug out a bunch of fluid came out with the straw still in. Wouldn't this mean it was over filled from factory? The cvt was cold.
@@jeancassel I had the same problem (I have a Vitz), since I have no access to TC fluid, and I didn't find any info about TC and FE compatibility. So I had no choice to put Castrol CVT that is labeled compatible for TC and FE types of fluid. A better option is Mobil 1 CVT, since I found that Mobil 1 is the OEM suplier for toyota fluids (also not available in my country). It's 2 years since then, I have no issuess and I decided to "drain/refill" the fluid every year to be safe.
There is a filter but transmission fluid filters are more like screens because they don’t get contaminated away engines do. Not a bad idea to replace but if you’re not letting the fluid get too dirty you really don’t have to.
I heard you need to drain and fill it. drive it for a week drain and fill it. drive it for a week. drain and fill again then the fluid should be clean but it still won’t be perfect because you’re just mixing in new with old fluid.
The problem is you can only get out about 2 quarts doing a drain and fill. The system takes approximately 8 quarts so that means you have to do quite a few drain and Phils about half a dozen to thoroughly flush out the system.
@@EnthusiastsGarage I was told do not change transmission fluid unless the transmission has the feel of slipping gears. As long you drive well and regular oil maintenance, car last forever....👍 I'm at over 100,000 have not done nothing but change the oil, it run like new...
@@MrRVJunior go cuss out whoever told you that. They likely fucked over your transmission. Cvt’s aren’t like traditional automatics. They are extraordinarily sensitive to old fluid. You are on borrowed time. Change your fluid immediately before you have a complete failure.
You can check the fluid. There is even a toyaye given method if you don't have a scan tool. You have narrow window between certain temperature range to check it. Scotty got so little out because he didn't cycle the engine and the car must absolutely be sitting level. But as for level check absolutely can check it yourself. Car care nut channel. He is a master Toyota tech. He give a very descriptive way too. My channel does as well.
This can be done at home. The method I used changes about 4 2/3 quarts of oil. New filter and sump clean. The rest is trapped in the torque converter. Yes they have made it hard to do, but I was able to do it using aisin fluid (aisin makes the transmission for Toyota). th-cam.com/video/JPLM8b_uxxI/w-d-xo.html You have a reference video in the text under the video and I'm not sure the guy (dealership???) was getting the level correct as I couldn't hear the engine running when he drained the excess (I have seen several videos like this). I put steps under my video, steps 12 & 13 cover how to do a level check properly. The engine needs to be running so the "oil gulp" doesn't drain back into the pan giving a false high reading - which results in a low level after putting the plug back in. Good luck
Not sure why the dealership is charging so much. Is there a different process? I had this done at Toyota (I'm in Canada) in October 2019 and they charged me $143 Canadian. (before tax) Labour was about $100 @ 0.80 hours, parts were $43 (4L of FE + 2 gaskets) I think this is more reasonable and would let them do it every time.
100% that dealer didn’t even touch that transmission. “Newer car, Sealed transmission, lifetime fluid” they don’t even bother. Best if you do it yourself little at a time
Hi, thank you for this helpful video! After how many miles should the CVT transmission fluid be changed? I recently purchased a used 2015 Toyota Corolla in excellent condition with 40,000 miles. When should I take it in to get the CVT transmission fluid change? So far the car is running great.
i did mine at 100k of mostly highway driving and it was in ok shape. since youve bought used i would do it earlier. 60k would be a good mileage for you. in order to change most of the fluid you need to do it about half a dozen times. i have more videos of this on my page.
@@EnthusiastsGarage Thank you! This is very helpful and important to know. I certainly will get the transmission fluid changed at 60K, and plan on bringing it to a Toyota dealer to change it since I do not have my own garage space to do it. Thank you again for your thoughtful and informative videos. I will check out the other ones you mentioned too.
Why buy used when you can buy the new ones for $20k. If you do take it in for service......make sure to do so at the Toyota Dealership, not just any shop. Most won't do what they say they will do and will only take your money . Good Luck out there!
I got 2019 toyota corolla and the person on the dealership, was told me to replaced at 35000 to 45000 It worth it, in order to avoid to pay from 3500 to 4500 to replace the transmission
@@bigfootswatching9986 Thank you! I will never buy a new car since the value depreciates immediately. Good used cars have always been financially productive for me. I do plan on taking it to a dealer for the transmission fluid change. Take care!
Everyone should be changing their fluid in automatic transmissions every 2 years or 50k km. They get cooked. If you only drain 2 liters then you have to minimum drain it 2x. To get it into nice condition. And after that change it more frequently like every 1 year because the fluid you only drain 25%
On these transmissions I heard it’s not a bad thing that you can’t drain all the fluid out, you want a little of the old fluid. How it was explained to me is that the old fluid will have break down fine wear metals that will help with assisting the clutch plates during their engagement process. So don’t overdue your oil change intervals “every 60k after motor reaches 100k” but I would at least want 75% changed 50% doesn’t seem vary good.
@@EnthusiastsGarage I'm guessing they say that because on an average, people buy brand new cars after 4-5 yrs. Basically the cvt should still be alive until owners dispose their cars. Anyhow, I got mine changed at 100k kms and toyota was only able to drain less than a 2.5 quarts. Hoping that the "renewed" additives would somehow help prolong the transmission.
Maybe a shop vac on the drain or remove the plug and level straw then continously slowly pour in the new stuff, replaced the straw and continue to pour till it comes out then put the plug back in and add 1/2 qt? 🤔
It has a fill straw and you have to run to temp to get it correct. 😅 Plus the vehicle has to be level, shift through all the gears leaving it in each gear like 30 seconds so on and so forth. I think there's a video on here that talks about tying pins 4 and 13 together. 😅 I'm an American car guy. To be honest I'm learning about this little vehicle to help a friend out. You can't change all the fluid in the American cars either. Typically in a transmission that's installed. You cant because there's a cooler. I guess you could if you disconnected the line from the cooler and then you pulled the fuel relay so the vehicle wouldn't start and you just turned it over to cause a transmission to pump the fluid out via the cooler. The return line would still have some though. 😅 I think the best way is just to take the 60,000 mi rule and divided in half and then do the transmission fluid only at the halfway point and leave the filters in place. Typically the little pressure filters only need to be changed around every 120 to 150,000, mi. Because it's not really so much a filter as it's just a straw that's designed to catch the big chunks in case of a transmission failure, it's not like an engine oil filter. Caveat being some of the older transmissions like those in an American muscle car that are based on the 50s transmissions, they will have a spin on high pressure filter and not just a cartridge filter. The high pressure filter is actually filtering out debris and can get clogged😅
Check out a channel called the car care nut for a Toyota tech's explanation. (Including a way to do the level check even if you don't have a scan tool.) I work at an independent shop but have access to the service info. I didn't catch what year you're working on, but I think they're all about the same. Here's how your dealer did 50%: - did 2x drain and fills (and shifting between gears in between to circulate) - failed at math (okay I guess it's close at 56% old fluid remaining = 75% * 75% ) The good news about this is that changing not quite half of the fluid actually is what they mean when they say "change the fluid". And you should do this every 60,000 mi. FYI: Our service advisors don't know anything either, that's standard.
When you take the pan down some of the oil will come out but there’s a plug that you have to take out and that will release the rest of it and then you measure the oil that came out and it currently tells you how much money I got a put in problem is these guys lie they say you can’t do it it’s not possible and if you want to buy the oil it’s like $300 because it comes from Japan so they say My Toyota Corolla 2015 and it has 387,000 miles on it my transmission is shitting on itself because oil in it was too thick and I think some of it was leaking out because I had problems with my axles The axles go directly into the transmission so if you got a problem with that you’re probably going to get a leak So after living in my car for six years and spending thousands of dollars maintaining my car over the course of the last few years which is pretty much all the money that I really had trying to keep the car in good shape I’m dealing with this nonsense now the only thing they give me as a viable option including transmission specialty shops is to replace the transmission with a used one so the way people drive today so don’t take care of their stuff they’re irresponsible off and they wreck the car and then you get a car with low miles on the transmission and they’re gonna have to drop the old one and put the new one in so technically they could refurbish the transmission unless something inside is broken which in my case might very well be the situation So as far as what you’re saying that’s not possible that’s not true I just watch someone else do it and they’re a professional mechanic but the fact that the dealership will buy to you and tell you it’s a close system and can’t service the transmission so that in a couple years you’ll be forced to buy a brand new car from them is not OK and that is the scenario which pisses me off because they don’t have to live my life or deal with the struggles I have and this car can go to 1,000,000 miles no doubt Putting a used transmission in here is not that difficult of a problem and the transmission is self is only gonna cost a couple hundred dollars from a junkyard and they’re gonna charge me 3000 to put it in we live in a really messed up world where people don’t give a crap about nobody else it’s always about the bottom line and that’s the dollar
The dealer opens and drops the transmission pan in order to get out as much as possible of the fluid, which is what I recommend, you can do it only once every 50k miles to keep your CVT tip top .
Every 50 000 miles / 80 000km is too much.
If it is only 50% drain then you should drain it 2x so you can get most of the fluid out. And every 30 000miles or 50k km. Or every 2 years. Don't leave fluid more than 2 to 3 years in your transmission. It gets cooked badly.
To remove half of the fluid you need to remove the oil pan as well
And while you're at it you need to clean the pan and clean the three little magnets
I also replaced the oil pan gasket as well as the oil filter and o-ring
The car care nut explain it to me very thoroughly and so far it’s worked and hasn’t had any issues
Hey, which video of the car care nut are you talking about? If possible, I would like to know.
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@southernberean8166 I follow him (Amd is his name) and followed his procedure 2x in a week on my 2015 Yaris 1.3L here in the UK,first time was 2 yrs ago at 88k & changed mine 2x in a week as it takes 2.2L each drain so got a 5L bottle. 2nd time 1x recently so keeping the rest stored in my house so no moisture gets in it sitting in the garage. 2yrs ago a 5L bottle of FE cost me £65 but recently it's £75 😯 Will use up the rest maybe next year so i'll know my fluid is tip top & will change again in 5yrs time with roughly 25k added. I get 58mog which is v.good & it's roughly the same fuel consumption as the 6 speed 1.3L manual.
429.29 is the price at Dealer as of 05/26/2023
Don't love it, but not terrible for something so important
Pretty high. Do it yourself with AISIN fluid for $50.
Since my last comment regarding the fluid to use in the corolla's CVT FE transmission, I now have this to say: I asked the computer who made my transmission and here is what I found: "Yes, the Aisin AW company manufactured the CVT FE transmission in your 2015 Toyota Corolla S1. If you need to replace the transmission fluid, you can use the Aisin CVT FE fluid which is available at Toyota dealerships and other auto parts stores". So, AISIN is the maker, and now I use their CVT FE fluid for about just a little bit over $10 per quart! Yep, the same thing in that "Toyota can" except a ton less expensive. Now you know where the money came from to build those nice dealership waiting rooms!
I've drained and filled on my Verso a few days ago. There's a plastic level straw in there but it's very hard to have the car exactly level on the lift. Honestly I don't think the exact level of fluid there is critical. Plus-minus 10% shouldn't make a difference since the car is supposed to drive without issues at incline anyway - and the filter intake is at the bottom of the pan. I've drained what I could, put the straw back, filled until it started to come out again, closed the drain and added 250ml more for a safe measure.
If no leaks I’ll measure what I took out and put back in the exact amount
Yes that makes sense. Some people make this a lot more complicated than it really is.
the straw in the pan tells you the correct amount of fluid at 104 degrees. once the fluid stops spilling out into the straw is when you know the fluid is the correct amount. No special tools needed.
espaghetti99 I really hope the 15k people read this comment. This guy shouldn’t make this video if he has no idea what he’s talking about. All those people with false information. Never base any car information of of fake Scotty killmor.
daryl howard, troll? or am I being completely honest. Ask any reputable mechanic about him and they’ll have the same outlook. Just mention his name to a shop and watch their eyes roll. He has the “following” because of the entertainment side of it, not the correct know how. I’m simply stating the fact that his methods might cause problems for people down the road. He’s a “home owner” style mechanic. The DIY, backyard messy shop type. He has the following just like jake Paul and other cringe youtubers. Views and likes don’t make someone great Kim Kardashian. 👍
So the straw had to be in and oil will spill out once it's done spilling out that's when you know the correct amount is??? Please explain
V3GAf32209 With the straw in the dealer will run the car until the fluid gets to 104 degrees. They have a scanner that will tell them that. Transmission fluid expands when it gets hot. If you use the straw to measure cold fluid you will end up with too much. You can buy a scanner online if you want one.
@@db2integra608 lol you probably liked your own comment
I have been wanting to see a video like this for a long time. Thanks so so much!
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Hey thank you, for your video it was very informative 👍 and much appreciated! I have a 2017 Corolla with a CVT . I felt the Dealer was being deceptive about this Transmission when they told us , it was a lifetime Transmission !
Change every 30,000 miles to keep it clean. I get about 3.5 qts when I changed it. I also used the universal ATF/CVT transmission fluid is about $24 of five qts
Is it the Castrol universal cvt you are using?
You can get close to 100% by doing several small changes. Change the 2 quarts or so then drive the car for a few days. Then do it again. After 5 or 6 times you will be in the 90% new fluid range. You can calculate this out mathematically. This will be expensive because the fluid cost so much. But it’s the only way to change all (most) of the fluid.
Lots of time for a mistake to be made?
Others have already commented about it, but you can use the Aisin CVT fluid which is much more affordable (I just bought some at $8.51/qt from rockauto). Just search for "AISIN ATFTFE". (Aisin is the transmission manufacturer).
I have toyota corolla cvt transmission 2015 with 140.000 km but till now i didn't change transmission oil and everything is good
Same is the case with my Corolla. 2014 Sept model. Owned it for 7 years. Never changed CVT oil. Done only 50,000 kms.
I had a 2010 Altima which I sold in 2019. 170,000 kms. Never changed CVT oil. Never had issues with CVT. Bought a Honda in 2022. They sent a message a month back that CVT oil need to be changed!!
I just did my 2015 Corolla CVT. I removed the pan and put in a new filter(strainer). I got 5 quarts out(4.75 liters). I got that when removing the filter and also letting it drip for an hour. That means you need 6 quarts. You replace the 5 quarts and add half of the 6th quart then the draining of excess fluid using the fluid temperature controlled method. See other videos on here for that. Did this at 130K after just buying the car. No problems after days of driving.
Useful info, but I bet 98% of people won't drop the pan.
@@jshepard152 If I had the car since new, I may not have dropped the pan either just because I would have drained the fluid way before most people do. As we know, most don’t change it at all ….. ever! Oh and your comment is something like a year after I posted that and still no problems with having changed the fluid at 130K. Remember, most of the fluid drained out. No converter in a CVT transmission.
@@yactabay
Exactly. Good luck with your car. Mine has 130k also.
@@jshepard152 Thanks, no, 130K was then. It has like 150K now. I think it has been a year and a half or a bit more since I changed the fluid. Can’t recall right now exactly.
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Oh I see. You must have done it right. Lol
You have to do it first thing in the morning level when it’s cold and keep the car level and then when you put the same amount back in by the drivers fuel plug I think it’s good to put a half a quart more in it crank it up stationary and work it back-and-forth Also don’t forget to push in the “bypass” I don’t know if that’s the right one that will get some additional fluid out you can hold it in place with a smaller then 6 mm hex wrench
Did they change the filter and gasket when they did the drain and fill ?
what model is the Aisin transmission? you might need to drop the pan, change the filter and clean the magnets. because there are lots of metal shavings in the oil and it becomes abrasive!!! and that is the nature of CVTs
If memory serves the transmission is made by Aisin, Rock Auto carries the FE fluid for roughly 8 bucks a quart. The dealer here wants 260 for the service. Thank you for the video-been looking for a good explanation on this service.
I actually did a few drain and fill myself using the aisin fluid from rock auto check out some of my newer TH-cam videos. Thanks for watching
Thanks that's nice to know
It's still $8 per quart. Great deal compared to the dealer.
50% is pretty good. I personally think it is worth it to extend the life of the transmission.
50% if you can actually drain half then you should do this every year after the first 2 or 3 years. Because 50% of the fluid is always old worn out.
I’ve owned 6 Toyotas between 2004 and 2020. They used to make great cars that would last a long time with reasonable maintenance. Apparently too long. Thus, features like the 2010 prius piston rings that lead to oil consumption problems. Or suggesting 10000 mile oil changes. And a transmission designed to make it almost impossible to do a proper fluid change….at best you can dilute the old stuff. Design choices like this are not an accident, someone is focused on making the vehicles wear out faster. Which is why my most recent car purchase was not a Toyota. All done with them.
Drain and fills at the dealer are a sufficient way to maintaining a healthy transmission. Obviously the more you drain the better, however, as the transmission gets older and naturally begins to wear. you want some of that wear material in the fluid to help it out. Which is why i only recommend drain and fills. and not flushes. My 2013 Tundra is at 260k miles and have done drain and fills every 50k miles. Havent had a single issue with it.
Is that actually true for CVTs, they only have one gear for the Toyotas. I understand the belt wearing down and maybe the wear material would help with friction.
@@federal_schizo you can bump them to every 60-70k miles
is iT A CVT?
I was able to flush out 2.7litres with out jacking the car up. You can get to the drain plug and fill plug with out jacking up the car or taking off the tyre.
How?!
I was able to turn the wheel all the way to the right on a Toyota chr to get access to the fill plug
UK viewer here. I did 2x drain & fill in a week on my 2015 Yaris 1.3L, first time was 2 yrs ago at 88k as it takes 2.2L each drain so got a 5L bottle. 2nd time with just x1 drain & fill was recently so i'm keeping the rest stored in my house so no moisture gets in it sitting in the garage. 2yrs ago a 5L bottle of FE cost me £65 but now it's £75 😯 Will use up the rest maybe next year so i'll know my fluid is tip top & no need to change till 5yrs time with roughly 25k added. I get 58mpg which is v.good & it's roughly the same as the 6 speed manual 1.3L
There is the straw that will leak excess cvt out once it is up to the correct level.
After first drain and fill, start the engine. Let it run and shift thru all the gears, P, D, N, R, + - + - + -, and R and N, R, N.. Then slowly shift it back to P..
Measure the oil pan temp, it should be ard 40'C..
Then off the engine .. Open the 6mm hex plug.. Let it leak from the top of the straw.. Top up till it starts dripping.
That means it is at the correct level now.
Lock the nut back, job done.
You can also do it with the engine running
When adjusting the lvl
You can change all of the fluid. you have to take the line off the transmission cooler and start the car and let it pump 2 quarts out then add 2 quarts back,repeat this until the fluid coming out is clean. overfill it about 1/4 quart, then you have to do the fluid level check procedure.
Have done my Prado transmission exactly as you wrote but does that apply to the CVT transmissions as well ? I really cant see why not 2 out 2 in till clean
In most transmissions you don’t want to really flush the fluid, just drain and fill
i have a question. how come? because toyota said that they were going to flush it then fill it
@@dealseeker I’ve heard and read many times that drain and fill is the way to go. Flushing can lead to serious problems for many models.
Straw sets fluid level at temp 104F (eg let sit overnight if trans hot etc) ...The logic is simple and easy...Level surface....Trans/ambient temps at ~ 104F/40C ...remove plug and straw to remove oil...refit straw...leave plug OFF..slowly fill trans till oil flows out of straw....make sure trans/ambient/oil temps below 104F/40C eg warmth of your underarm :).......The difficulty is working out how to make it sound complicated so that owner can be charged more than the job is worth........HOT oil = higher levels and that's why oil might come out when you undo sump plug......correct level and correct temp = no oil out when remove plug.
The Car Care Nut channel (others too) has a video on how to get the proper fluid level without a dealer level or any scan tool on modern Toyotas. You do some kind of sequence that puts it in a special mode and something flashes when the fluid is heated to the right temp, if it goes too hot something else happens and you missed your shot. It didn't look complicated at all.
The sequence is putting it back and forth in drive/reverse/neutral. I’ve watched several videos, but I didn’t memorize the sequence yet. I do watch the car care nut.
@MonkeyPunchZPoker I follow him (Amd is his name) and followed his procedure 2x in a week on my 2015 Yaris 1.3L here in the UK,first time was 2 yrs ago at 88k & changed mine 2x in a week as it takes 2.2L each drain so got a 5L bottle. 2nd time 1x recently so keeping the rest stored in my house so no moisture gets in it sitting in the garage. 2yrs ago a 5L bottle of FE cost me £65 but recently it's £75 😯 Will use up the rest maybe next year so i'll know my fluid is tip top & no need to change again in 5yrs time with roughly 25k added. I get 58mog which is v.good & it's roughly the same fuel consumption as the 6 speed 1.3L manual. I didn't need to remove the wheel & plastic cover as i had room to undo the 24mm nut & re fill from the top with a garden hose & funnel....bit slow but it works.
Update : yesterday I did a cvt fluid change again . The second in 4 months given that I only got 25 % changed the first time .
This time I dropped pan and changed cvt filter .
This time I was able to get exactly 4 L to come out . Perhaps your dealer changed filter and pan gasket while changing your fluid ?
You do get a lot more fluid out when dropping pan and cvt filter Vs only draining fluid .
The car is a 2016 with 90k . I have managed to exchange about 2/3 of the original fluid overall since August . They have 3 small magnets in oil pan . Mine had next to nothing for debris .
Thanks for the information on the Magnet. My has 90k and did a drain and fill but I was worry about the Magnet need to be cleaned but drop the pan make is much more complicated.
If do it at home making sure the old oil and new oil are the same temperature when compared measuring for accuracy.
You can change only 50% of it? What about changing it 2 times the same day, running the engine for several minutes after the first change?
That would be roughly 75% changed, and every time you do that, you are getting rid of less and less used fluid, throwing away a lot of good new fluid
Doesn't make sense just drain and fill
@@malachiintsounds9245 In the case of my Toyota U341E 4 speed automatic transmission, if you just drain and fill you replace just 42% of the ATF: maybe if you drain and fill 2 times in the same service session, with a driving interval of a few miles, you replace 84% of the ATF?
@@hd221813 Not so. You replace 42% the first time. You replace 42 % of the mixture (42% + 58% of the old mixture) the second time which gives you close to 74 % new ATF.
Thank you VERY much for posting this information as I have one of these vehicles and I have been trying to get to the bottom of whether or not I should service my transmission. I am a retired ASE automotive repair tech and I have personally serviced hundreds of transmissions over the years. But obviously this CVT transmission is very different then the tranies I used to work on. Anyway I plan on keeping my 2014 Corolla which is currently working great. I just need to gather more information and this video helps thank you. (To service or not to service that is the question (lol).
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Service it often so the fluid is as clean as it can be most of the time. People get in trouble when they try to go from filthy fluid to clean fluid. It’s a shame that they make it this difficult. But there is no better car manufacturer to buy it you want to keep it forever.
You can use Castrol CVT fluid & aftermarket filter works nice. Scam by dealer pay $124 FE fluid. Castrol is 100% synthetic. I drive 2020 Corolla.
Hello. I have a Toyota Auris 2014, I have a problem with the CVT gearbox. When the car is cold, I have no problem. After 15 minutes of walking, the car starts to falter and vibrate and has no power left, and when it cools down, everything is back to normal.
In one if the videos you linked, they dropped the pan and changed the filter. They got just over 3.5 quarts out. Chances are they dropped yor pan and filter and then reinstalled both.
Very good video! I would think as long as you put back in what you have drained out, you should be fine. If your doing it at home, I would drain the fluid cold, that way it’s the same temperature as the fluid going in. Apparently the cvt fluid changes volume when it’s hot. Plan on buying one of these cars in future and want to know how to do this.
Brad Yakubovic “DNY automotive “channel shows the proper way to change the trans fluid
Better to change at home, in the morning in order to have the same temperature of oil that is out and oil to put in.
It has a fill straw and you have to run to temp to get it correct. 😅
Plus the vehicle has to be level, shift through all the gears leaving it in each gear like 30 seconds so on and so forth.
I think there's a video on here that talks about tying pins 4 and 13 together. 😅
I'm an American car guy. To be honest I'm learning about this little vehicle to help a friend out. You can't change all the fluid in the American cars either. Typically in a transmission that's installed. You cant because there's a cooler. I guess you could if you disconnected the line from the cooler and then you pulled the fuel relay so the vehicle wouldn't start and you just turned it over to cause a transmission to pump the fluid out via the cooler. The return line would still have some though. 😅
I think the best way is just to take the 60,000 mi rule and divided in half and then do the transmission fluid only at the halfway point and leave the filters in place. Typically the little pressure filters only need to be changed around every 120 to 150,000, mi. Because it's not really so much a filter as it's just a straw that's designed to catch the big chunks in case of a transmission failure, it's not like an engine oil filter. Caveat being some of the older transmissions like those in an American muscle car that are based on the 50s transmissions, they will have a spin on high pressure filter and not just a cartridge filter. The high pressure filter is actually filtering out debris and can get clogged😅
hello teacher, your video is very good, I have a question for you I have a 2016 corolla with a CVT automatic transmission and I have to change the carter because I damaged it, but inside the carter there are some magnets and I wanted to know what they are for and what happens if not they are put back when you put the new carter, I would appreciate an answer, greetings and blessings
they catch and steel that is floating in the oil. its a good idea to leave it in.
I am approaching 100k and have never had this service done. Should I go ahead and have this taken care of immediately?
If you’re gonna keep the car I would
As had been said the initial drain a little over two qts. I'm thinking for a quick two qt. change why not back fill the 2 qts. plus through the so called plastic straw. My question is this, What is the inside diameter of the straw ??? Thank you
has a double stopper
first you remove the plug one from the center
and then the plastic plug exterior
I saw a video that connecting a pin in the obd connector! As he change the fluid! What does it do? Im so confused! 🤦🏻♂️
its a ghetto way of the car telling you its at a certain temp to check it.
“DNY automotive “channel shows the proper way to change the trans fluid
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Is this same oil for corolla hybrid? Thank you
My girl never did hers its at 160k transmission doesnt slip or nothing should i do a drain and fill?
Hello, have you had any issues using Aisin fluid? Would you still recommend over Toyota OEM? Thanks!
Fwiw, I've not used aisin or Toyota OEM, but idemitsu, and I'm going strong at 140,000.
I used Aisin fluid as the transmission is made by them. Did a change at 110k, car was driver to 165K and sold with no transmission issues. th-cam.com/video/JPLM8b_uxxI/w-d-xo.html
Why not drop the transmission pan
and change the fluid and
filter ?
Its a closed system.
If you do your own maintenance, you could just drain and fill 2 quarts of CVT fluid each time you change the oil. Every 60K miles, all the CVT fluid would have cycled out more than once already.
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I just came back from the dealer today try to change the fluid but they told me to wait until 120.000 miles to change it, thats the maintenace due
Horseshit. Cvt’s need fluid changes every 30k miles. No exceptions. They will fail if you do not change the fluid every 30k miles. Not a question of if, but when.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Wrong, Toyota’s are 60k. There are tons of Corolla CVTs that have 200,000+ miles on them by doing 60k oil changes.
@@andybub45 last time I took my Tundra in for service, I got that info directly from the master tech. They have a backlog of 20+ Corolla’s and CH-R’s needing full cvt replacements. Some had as few of 10k miles up to 80k miles. I also live in a hot climate as designated by Toyota. Because of Covid, the cvt’s had been on a months long backorder. Cheers.
I took my 2011 Corolla to change the transmission fluid and when I got home I looked at the fluid and it looked somewhat dirty purple color fluid. I was expecting it to look red cherry color. My question is did they actually do the service or forgot to do it
You typically can’t change out all the fluid so some of the old fluid will mix the the new fluid. I’d should look much newer overall but might not be perfect. I’ve done 6 drain and fills and it never looks perfect unless you constantly change it.
@@EnthusiastsGarage I really appreciate your response and video thanks for all the information my friend 👍
How many quarts go into a used transmission? It’s ordered from Japan.
How many miles the car(toyota corolla se 2017 ) goes to change the cvt gearbox oil. Please help
gy gug let me know if you found out
You can wait to do it at 60k miles then every 30k miles after that or stick to 30k mile changes.
See your Service Manual
I believe 120,000 miles
It used to be 60,000.
I have a 1KR-FE engine, the CVT transmission apparent refill nut is labelled 'TC' so I figured that's the type of fluid I will have to use for my transmission?
toyota does make a TC fluid so i would go by whats stamped on the cap. double check with your dealer.
@@EnthusiastsGarage www.pakwheels.com/forums/t/transmission-oil-change-of-toyota-vitz-belta-passo-k410-transmission/140094
@@EnthusiastsGarage check the link I attached, it's posted that's not the recommended re-fill port rather one with a horizontal 10mm bolt
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@@ratpoision9298 i checked the link and i just spent the last 10 minutes under my hood trying to check this info out. my trans is set up differently from the way this one is set up. that car i assume is not a us spec car and that post is from 2011. im guessing they have changed things since then and i found something in the same area that could be an updated version to that but im not sure.
I got out 5 1/2 quarts and when I filled it up I went ahead and put another half which made it six after I drove it around a week I dry and what was left in the overflow pan out
my 2016 toyota corolla has a dipstick on transmission
how do i proceed
339.95 for me 2019 Corolla they said they were going to flush it
Did they also replace the filter and seal ? I paid about $350 on 15 Corolla a year back in SO CAL.
What if I overfill the trans fluid, will it damage my trans!!!
Unfortunately there is no good way to check it at home. If the car is working OK you could tackle this and just carefully measure what came out. If you’re having an issue with the trans or you’re not comfortable doing it that way I would have the dealer do it. They can check the correct level with their tools.
CVT are picky when it comes to fluid level. Yes, it will damage your transmission. “Weberauto “ channel shows the tools and how to check the fluid level on Toyotas. It is complicated and costly. You are better off letting the dealership do it.
Add in what you take out
What size socket do I need on the "FE" fill bolt
24mm
@@EnthusiastsGarage thank you! Getting ready to do this on my 2019 Corolla SE in a couple of weeks.
I own a 2015 Toyota Corolla le and everytime I make a U turn it makes a grinding sound and starts losing power. I've checked everything underneath too see if anything's lose but nothing so far. Was this the Recall that Toyota was telling me about because the car got only 85.000 on the clock.
Do we need to change with CVT filter ? Mine 60k done. Went to delar hr suggest me to change filter while changing cvt fluid. Please suggest
It’s not a bad idea but if your changing the fluid before it gets to dirty you don’t really have to.
Toyota dealer said they would take all the cvt fluid out and would not change the filter because there are no replaceable filters to be changed. Is taking all the fluid out is a risky approach? Will it cause transmission slip? Please advise. Thank you.
i dont believe that. the torque converter is not drainable so you cant get all the fluid out without completely taking the transmission apart. there is a filter inside but its more of a screen than a filter. not a big deal if its not done but keeping the fluid clean is much more important so it doesnt break down and clog it.
@@EnthusiastsGarage thanks very much for your prompt reply. They said they would use a some sort of machine to take out the fluids and that's when I thought of a transmission flush more than just a fluid change. Should I go ahead with this approach? Would it cause transmission to slip? My 2017 corolla im has only 23,000 miles. Let me know. Thank you again.
@@NHD777X your fluid dont need change till 40,000 up to 60,000
drain and fill is fine you dont need to flush. if the fluid is very old then a flush could be bad but im not sure if that applies to CVT but traditional automatics yes. use Amsoil brand fluid its the best you can get as far as i know it lasts twice as long as regular stuff.
May i know why they can not do flush?
Apparently it’s not step up in a way that a flush can be done.
You can add the same amount of fluid you have taken out then run the car for 12-15 minutes then drain again and since it doesn't take much I would repeat the procedure for at least 3 time this you kind flush the entire transmission... good luck everyone
Nice job, but how I flush the transmission for replace 100% of the fluid?
You can’t. You would have to take the transmission apart to do it. You can only remove about 2 quarts at a time.
Just drain and fill that's what we do at the dealership. If you drain out two quarts but an extra quarter of fluid in
I bought two cans each $98 and some change from one of the dealerships I can’t get it online anywhere if you can show me where it’s cheaper and I’m in the factory fe fluid let me know
hello, I have a question, because I am little bit confused. I read around 10 articles, 3 official forum Toyota and 80% recomend to change oil in CVT after +/- 60 000 km. But from official Dealer in Poland I have got information that this is not necessery, and they do it only when they are changing gear for the new one. I want to buy Corolla 2016r, 1.6, CVT, 86 000km. and really I don't know - change oil or not, is it save or not, is 86k km is not too late for changing gear oil (of course if it's really necessery). help :)
You can tel the condition of the fluid based on the color of fluid that’s coming out. If the fluid is clear red or pink it means it’s healthy, If it’s brown it means it’s around the time for a change, if it’s dark brown it means the fluid is in bad condition and u can sometimes feel the sand-like metals through your fingers.
They might have used a fluid extractor pump to get 50 percent fluid out?
Maybe but I doubt it
So wait why does it even matter to measure what came out, if the straw sets level after warming and gear cycle procedure. Because if there was to much added back, it would spill out when taking the plug out the second time
Because it has to be at a very specific temperature that as well below operating temperature
When I took the drain plug out a bunch of fluid came out with the straw still in. Wouldn't this mean it was over filled from factory? The cvt was cold.
No, some will come out even when it’s cold.
@@EnthusiastsGarage I would say it was more than just some maybe a 1/2 cup. I put back in the same amount that came out. Did this twice.
“DNY automotive “channel shows the proper way to change the trans fluid
That is when the engine is running. When the engine is not running, some of the fluid wen't back to the fluid sump as i guess.
George Schneider dude, we get it. You’ve commented it like 10x
bro i got a sport 2014 i got over 200k on it shoukd i look into changing the fluid ?
You earned a subscriber. Thanks a lot for the info
The old CVT fluid is labeled CVT TC.
Hey man, I have a corolla that takes CTV TC, can I use CVT FE on it?
@@jeancassel I had the same problem (I have a Vitz), since I have no access to TC fluid, and I didn't find any info about TC and FE compatibility. So I had no choice to put Castrol CVT that is labeled compatible for TC and FE types of fluid.
A better option is Mobil 1 CVT, since I found that Mobil 1 is the OEM suplier for toyota fluids (also not available in my country).
It's 2 years since then, I have no issuess and I decided to "drain/refill" the fluid every year to be safe.
Is there a filter with these transmissions that you have to replace ?
There is a filter but transmission fluid filters are more like screens because they don’t get contaminated away engines do. Not a bad idea to replace but if you’re not letting the fluid get too dirty you really don’t have to.
I heard you need to drain and fill it. drive it for a week
drain and fill it. drive it for a week. drain and fill again then the fluid should be clean
but it still won’t be perfect because you’re just mixing in new with old fluid.
How often should the CVT fluid be changed out? I'm at about 115k mile on my 2014 Corolla.
The problem is you can only get out about 2 quarts doing a drain and fill. The system takes approximately 8 quarts so that means you have to do quite a few drain and Phils about half a dozen to thoroughly flush out the system.
@@EnthusiastsGarage Makes sense. Thanks
@@EnthusiastsGarage
I was told do not change transmission fluid unless the transmission has the feel of slipping gears. As long you drive well and regular oil maintenance, car last forever....👍
I'm at over 100,000 have not done nothing but change the oil, it run like new...
@@MrRVJunior go cuss out whoever told you that. They likely fucked over your transmission. Cvt’s aren’t like traditional automatics. They are extraordinarily sensitive to old fluid. You are on borrowed time. Change your fluid immediately before you have a complete failure.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 I wonder where you got this information?
You can check the fluid. There is even a toyaye given method if you don't have a scan tool. You have narrow window between certain temperature range to check it. Scotty got so little out because he didn't cycle the engine and the car must absolutely be sitting level. But as for level check absolutely can check it yourself. Car care nut channel. He is a master Toyota tech. He give a very descriptive way too. My channel does as well.
This can be done at home.
The method I used changes about 4 2/3 quarts of oil. New filter and sump clean. The rest is trapped in the torque converter.
Yes they have made it hard to do, but I was able to do it using aisin fluid (aisin makes the transmission for Toyota).
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You have a reference video in the text under the video and I'm not sure the guy (dealership???) was getting the level correct as I couldn't hear the engine running when he drained the excess (I have seen several videos like this).
I put steps under my video, steps 12 & 13 cover how to do a level check properly.
The engine needs to be running so the "oil gulp" doesn't drain back into the pan giving a false high reading - which results in a low level after putting the plug back in.
Good luck
Not sure why the dealership is charging so much. Is there a different process? I had this done at Toyota (I'm in Canada) in October 2019 and they charged me $143 Canadian. (before tax) Labour was about $100 @ 0.80 hours, parts were $43 (4L of FE + 2 gaskets) I think this is more reasonable and would let them do it every time.
how to know the lever you have to have
Cada cuantas millas se cambia el aceite de la transmision??
100% that dealer didn’t even touch that transmission. “Newer car, Sealed transmission, lifetime fluid” they don’t even bother. Best if you do it yourself little at a time
Hi, thank you for this helpful video! After how many miles should the CVT transmission fluid be changed? I recently purchased a used 2015 Toyota Corolla in excellent condition with 40,000 miles. When should I take it in to get the CVT transmission fluid change? So far the car is running great.
i did mine at 100k of mostly highway driving and it was in ok shape. since youve bought used i would do it earlier. 60k would be a good mileage for you. in order to change most of the fluid you need to do it about half a dozen times. i have more videos of this on my page.
@@EnthusiastsGarage Thank you! This is very helpful and important to know. I certainly will get the transmission fluid changed at 60K, and plan on bringing it to a Toyota dealer to change it since I do not have my own garage space to do it. Thank you again for your thoughtful and informative videos. I will check out the other ones you mentioned too.
Why buy used when you can buy the new ones for $20k. If you do take it in for service......make sure to do so at the Toyota Dealership, not just any shop. Most won't do what they say they will do and will only take your money . Good Luck out there!
I got 2019 toyota corolla and the person on the dealership, was told me to replaced at 35000 to 45000
It worth it, in order to avoid to pay from 3500 to 4500 to replace the transmission
@@bigfootswatching9986 Thank you! I will never buy a new car since the value depreciates immediately. Good used cars have always been financially productive for me. I do plan on taking it to a dealer for the transmission fluid change. Take care!
How many miles did you changed your?
100k
Look for toyota alfrad and vellfire cvt change video. Big mpv in japan market and look for cvt change video
Everyone should be changing their fluid in automatic transmissions every 2 years or 50k km. They get cooked. If you only drain 2 liters then you have to minimum drain it 2x. To get it into nice condition. And after that change it more frequently like every 1 year because the fluid you only drain 25%
Done it thrice, there are other videos how to do it A to Z
On these transmissions I heard it’s not a bad thing that you can’t drain all the fluid out, you want a little of the old fluid. How it was explained to me is that the old fluid will have break down fine wear metals that will help with assisting the clutch plates during their engagement process. So don’t overdue your oil change intervals “every 60k after motor reaches 100k” but I would at least want 75% changed 50% doesn’t seem vary good.
Doesn't really apply for CVTs. That advice is for automatics.
Would you still recommend changing fluid for this non-serviceable transmission? Seems it might do more damage than good
If you’re going to keep the car long term I would. that "filled for life" theory is a lie.
“DNY automotive “channel shows the proper way to change the trans fluid
@@EnthusiastsGarage I'm guessing they say that because on an average, people buy brand new cars after 4-5 yrs. Basically the cvt should still be alive until owners dispose their cars. Anyhow, I got mine changed at 100k kms and toyota was only able to drain less than a 2.5 quarts. Hoping that the "renewed" additives would somehow help prolong the transmission.
I doubt they're even getting half. Most people get about 2.5 quarts out of 7. That's 35%.
Maybe a shop vac on the drain or remove the plug and level straw then continously slowly pour in the new stuff, replaced the straw and continue to pour till it comes out then put the plug back in and add 1/2 qt? 🤔
It has a fill straw and you have to run to temp to get it correct. 😅
Plus the vehicle has to be level, shift through all the gears leaving it in each gear like 30 seconds so on and so forth.
I think there's a video on here that talks about tying pins 4 and 13 together. 😅
I'm an American car guy. To be honest I'm learning about this little vehicle to help a friend out. You can't change all the fluid in the American cars either. Typically in a transmission that's installed. You cant because there's a cooler. I guess you could if you disconnected the line from the cooler and then you pulled the fuel relay so the vehicle wouldn't start and you just turned it over to cause a transmission to pump the fluid out via the cooler. The return line would still have some though. 😅
I think the best way is just to take the 60,000 mi rule and divided in half and then do the transmission fluid only at the halfway point and leave the filters in place. Typically the little pressure filters only need to be changed around every 120 to 150,000, mi. Because it's not really so much a filter as it's just a straw that's designed to catch the big chunks in case of a transmission failure, it's not like an engine oil filter. Caveat being some of the older transmissions like those in an American muscle car that are based on the 50s transmissions, they will have a spin on high pressure filter and not just a cartridge filter. The high pressure filter is actually filtering out debris and can get clogged😅
Thank for posting I could not find the dip stick lol how do they check it this really sucks
Your garage is deliciously clean! I just want to eat off the floor 👍
thats why i went with that floor coating. looks good and easy to clean.
There is actually a way. You take apart the drain pan by unbolting it.
no, thats the same as using the plug. you cant drain the torque converter when its inside the trans.
@@EnthusiastsGarage yeah but ull get more out than useing the pan straw
Check out a channel called the car care nut for a Toyota tech's explanation. (Including a way to do the level check even if you don't have a scan tool.)
I work at an independent shop but have access to the service info. I didn't catch what year you're working on, but I think they're all about the same.
Here's how your dealer did 50%:
- did 2x drain and fills (and shifting between gears in between to circulate)
- failed at math (okay I guess it's close at 56% old fluid remaining = 75% * 75% )
The good news about this is that changing not quite half of the fluid actually is what they mean when they say "change the fluid". And you should do this every 60,000 mi.
FYI: Our service advisors don't know anything either, that's standard.
When you take the pan down some of the oil will come out but there’s a plug that you have to take out and that will release the rest of it and then you measure the oil that came out and it currently tells you how much money I got a put in problem is these guys lie they say you can’t do it it’s not possible and if you want to buy the oil it’s like $300 because it comes from Japan so they say
My Toyota Corolla 2015 and it has 387,000 miles on it my transmission is shitting on itself because oil in it was too thick and I think some of it was leaking out because I had problems with my axles
The axles go directly into the transmission so if you got a problem with that you’re probably going to get a leak
So after living in my car for six years and spending thousands of dollars maintaining my car over the course of the last few years which is pretty much all the money that I really had trying to keep the car in good shape I’m dealing with this nonsense now the only thing they give me as a viable option including transmission specialty shops is to replace the transmission with a used one so the way people drive today so don’t take care of their stuff they’re irresponsible off and they wreck the car and then you get a car with low miles on the transmission and they’re gonna have to drop the old one and put the new one in so technically they could refurbish the transmission unless something inside is broken which in my case might very well be the situation
So as far as what you’re saying that’s not possible that’s not true I just watch someone else do it and they’re a professional mechanic but the fact that the dealership will buy to you and tell you it’s a close system and can’t service the transmission so that in a couple years you’ll be forced to buy a brand new car from them is not OK and that is the scenario which pisses me off because they don’t have to live my life or deal with the struggles I have and this car can go to 1,000,000 miles no doubt
Putting a used transmission in here is not that difficult of a problem and the transmission is self is only gonna cost a couple hundred dollars from a junkyard and they’re gonna charge me 3000 to put it in we live in a really messed up world where people don’t give a crap about nobody else it’s always about the bottom line and that’s the dollar
Thanks for the video especially for the links.
You empty more when you remove the oil pan
Yes but not much more. Not enough to justify doing it
Maybe you have to change it every 10k? At least you can do it yourself it's way too expensive to change it at the dealership.
No you change your transmission oil every like 60-100k miles
Toyota says the CVT fluid doesn't suppose to be change.